And bet someone would ask him like: "Sorry dude, you wanna talk about it?" But Jack's gonna be like: "Oh don't worry, I'm the one who killed my feelings a LOOOONG time ago."
And that it's an understandable saying when taking a potion or anything that would make you grow into a giant your clothes would tear of and you'd either be naked or coverd in ripped clothes
I can imagine how it would go if hid clothes didn't grow with him. Puss: (With a disgusted look on his face alongside Kitty) "Well, we found a use for the wish after all..." Mama Bear: (Immediately covering Baby Bear's and Goldie's eyes) Papa Bear: "Heh heh, he's tiny."
@@HigherBites refers to a quote uttered by the Batman Beyond animated series character Blight upon encountering Batman. source: knowyourmeme had to look it up myself.
My favorite personally was in a Street Fighter movie. Chun Li tells Bison about how he burned his village and killed her people but they drove him off and asks him if he remember that day, he responds by saying that he doesn't, Li then asks him why, he responds with this glorious line: "For you it was the worst day of your life, for me it was a Tuesday."
One thing I love about the ending of this movie is, how all the characters that were chasing after the Last Wish actually already had that wish come true before, they just hadn't realized it yet. Puss had what it takes to overcome death hunting him down early in him all along, he just needed to realize that he should appreciate the life he has rather than wishing for more. Kitty always had the someone she could trust in Puss, she too just needed to realize this and open up to him (same goes the other way around ofc). Goldielocks already had her perfect family in the bears, but she was too obsessed with wanting a human family to recognize this, which changed along her journey. And finally Jack, who wanted all the magic in the world. Truth is, he is the only character in this movie that uses magic artifacts and he probaply has the largest collection of them in existance. He already had pretty much all the magic in the world, he just had to learn to appreciate it. Since he was incapable of this, he was too focussed on the map and in the end when it was destroyed, when all the other characters, who by that point came to the same conclusion about their wish already being fullfilled, abandoned ship, he stayed behind, which ultimately lead to his downfall.
Another similar movie played out but almost everyone got their wish, except for a hapless mime. That movie happened to be the Anamaniacs movie Wakko’s Wish.
Wonderful analysis, dude. And yeah, Jack really did have all he could've wanted. He just refused to do any kind of introspection, and was so obsessed with the wish that it cost him EVERYTHING.
You got to appreciate a movie for having a villain like this. With all these magical creatures and animals it’s a human who turns out to be the biggest threat.
I love Big Jack Horner. He's the kind of animated villain we haven't seen in a long time. Someone who's not one bit sympathetic or a surprise villain. He's just straight up evil, knows it and loves every second of it. The kind of villain Disney has been lacking in recent years
He's the definition of Disney, they have all the magic and abilities to be extremely powerful but they misuse their magic and abilities which causes them to fail
@@Derpzilla-tw2ox Because in the original fairytale, the Beanstalk was abnormally strong and could hold the Giant. It took a magically enhanced hatchet to cut it down. Big Jack Horner's axe has some dents in it, presumably from that Beanstalk cut.
The cricket and Jack was the funniest dialogue in the whole movie. A purely good character trying to help a purely evil character.... its actually rare when the evil character stays evil in the end in these movies!
I wonder if the cricket was the first magical thing that Jack Horner stole? He was shown being jealous of the attention that Pinocchio was getting as a little boy, which is where Jimminy should’ve prolly been at the time. He could’ve been trapped in that jar for decades!
@@davidrich27 Jiminy Cricket has already appeared in the Shrek universe and might actually be dead. (Canonicity Pending) So the Ethical Bug is an entirely different character. Or you know, retconning, whichever works for you...
And I also like how his evilness isn't caused by a bad youth or SOMETHING like that. Some people are just born broken, and we've had enough villains who became like that due to trauma and/or heartbreak, or something else in their lives they virtually had no control over. Jack had a great childhood if what he said wasn't sarcastic. He just is a POS because he likes to be that way.
If it had to be narrowed down to one: stealing Excalibur. Consider in Shrek 3 how Merlin was a kook and Arthur was a wuss. Since Excalibur was ripped from its original place, neither of them had the chance to fulfill their destiny in the traditional sense, and it took an intervening Shrek to shake them out of their slumps. In other words, by stealing Excalibur, Jack Horner ruined Shrek the Third.
@@LightningStarSC given how jack Horner’s flashback back was set before the first shrek film. After the defeat of farquaad, Jack began collecting fairy tale items unnoticed.
Can’t really blame baby for wanting them though. Back in the day, like Middle Ages back in the day, purple dye was really hard to come by, ergo it was really expensive, so if you had a purple outfit you were either royalty or really rich by other means.
Also in some rough areas of England where you hear these accents, it wouldn't be unfamiliar if someone beat you up and stole your jacket or nice shoes etc
Jack: "Well you know what they say, can't bake a pie without loosing a dozen men." Turns out Dozen = 12 and Baker's Dozen = 13 for some reason. So what Jack was saying was not just a joke at having lost a bunch of people, he was ACTUALLY referring to the fact that he had lost EXACTLY a dozen people up to that point, with only Nutmegan (yes that is her name) left out of the baker's dozen.
Slightly off topic, but for anyone interested, apparently a baker's dozen is thirteen because of an old practice in which bakers, when asked for a dozen loaves of bread, would provide 13 instead in case one of them turned out to be unsatisfactory.
His name was Jerry and he was the only member of Big Jack Horner's Baker's Dozen to get called by name when he was mourned by Betty Crocker, one the three bakers who were shot by Jack Horner with unicorn horns( the other two being Pete Cobbler and Tommy Lee Scones).
0:00 - 1:31, it’s pretty funny how Jack kept mentally tormenting the Ethical Bug until he finally realized Jack was an irredeemable monster. But imagine if Jack said this instead, “Oh, oh, what took you so long? Bitch!”
Someone mentioned this in another video that it's pretty ironic that Jack is being paired with a character who helped Pinocchio who pretty much ruined Jack's career
Maybe because he's just honest and self-aware. he doesn't apologize, reason, or lie about his intent or nature. And in a time, where the biggest problems are caused by mental disorders gone viral, bigotry, manipulation, narcissistic personality cults and gaslighting, it's a breath of fresh air to have a villain step up and just acknowledge he's the asshole in the room. Add a sarcastic, flamboyant personality to the mix, and you have comedy gold. Kinda remembers me about Hades from Disneys Hercules. Wouldn't go as far as cheering for Jack to win, but since he posses a honest provocation, without berating anyone for trying to fight him (unlike most other villains nowadays, who have wannabe-deep tragic/sympathetic backstories), I certainly would enjoy my time to pick up arms and throw everything in the book at him. He is the classical evil to the classical good hero everybody wants to be, so he makes the fight against him not only fun, but feel good, too. Jack is a fat bastard packed full with charisma, and although not every tale of heroism needs a villain like him, many get elevated by them, and he's the perfect canvas to vent some steam at. Many wish back times when we were younger and live seemed simpler, and him being the pure black we sometimes wish were so easily identifiable in real life now that we've grown up, is a large part of what makes him work as a likable villain, precisely because he has a personality one can easily hate, and enjoy on hating without a guilty conscious. I wouldn't like to see Jack win, but I certainly wish he survived to fight on another day, and give us a pause from villains who manipulate and gaslight their victims to appear as the good guy, bigots that think their cause sanctifies their actions, or narcissists who torture their environment, just because they got hurt themselves, once. Otherwise, I take any villain like him we can get. Hades, The Joker (Dark Knight), Loki, Jaffar(& Iago), and now Big Jack Horner. We need more villains with primal evil energy that are just fun to watch / go up against.
to be fair, he was already a very wealthy business owner and had a huge collection of magic artifacts before all this, he went on the journey for the wishing start due to pure megalomania, he got what deserved
@@sgt.bonkers8706he doesn't lie about who he is but still didn't tell the truth when he said about his family being rich and loving, it clearly wasn't when we see it. Oh, and also he tries to run an ordinary, charming bakery despite being a terrorist and a menace to society. He also apologized when he accidentally shot his men.
I thought I was the ONLY one who thought it was funny that Jimminy changed expressions from Happy Child to straight up Horrified. 0:52 - 0:55 It makes me feel better knowing that I'm not alone.
Gotta love that even in a movie with the literal embodiment of death this guy was a bigger threat. Death winning meant puss loses. Jack winning means EVERYONE loses.
@@lucaswinsor4469 Plus, you'd need to speak the rhyme in full for it to work. Some strange magic-thing that has special requirements, otherwise, AMYONE could've used up the Last Wish a LONG time ago and this story, would be really, REALLY short! ^^
I believe Jack’s drive isn’t to get money or power, it’s to have all the magic that he didn’t get as a kid and no longer be upstaged by anyone else with magic by making sure that “no one else gets any.”
That last hench-woman understood the assignment. Nice to know Jack had competent manpower, he ask if she was chatty and she didn't speak, most henchmen or henchwomen would've spoken which would be an automatic disqualification. Good help trully is jard to come by so you gotta appreciate those that do.
A straight up classical villain that has personal goals and is evil for the sake of evil . Disney has tried to make their movies more relevant and not play on cliches . But sometimes it doesn’t matter, people want a villain they love to hate . I’d say Dreamworks and other studios are doing better than Disney. For every Frozen and Encanto there is one Spiderverse or Puss in Boots:TLW
But, the fact that Horner is both loved for being just the worst, and being just the worst is a very large breath of fresh air from the other Villains most recently
This movie was secretly really horrifying, disintergrations, people being eaten to the bone, exploding, they cleverly covered it up with fantasy funsies
Before I watched this movie I saw this character in a video and thought that he was treated like trash and wanted to prove to everybody that he's not to be messed with, but after watching his backstory I was surprised and kept watching movie clips that included him just to make sure that he really is pure evil and doesn't have a sob backstory.
5:07 Jack: What did I do to deserve this?! Me: You’re kidding, right? Jack: I mean what specifically?! Me: Do you want the full list or just the top five?
The things He did to deserve this: 1. Health code violation 2. 1st degree murder 3. Assault of weapon 4. Assault with bodily harm 5. Animal abuse 2x 6. Manslaughter 12x 7. 2nd degree attempted murder 3x
1:19 While other villains deny their evil or try to be redeemable or even say they are misunderstood Jack Horner is literally the king of all villains because he not only is aware of his evil behavior but also doesn’t hide it from others which is why he is disgusted that it took Jimminy Cricket so long to see he is beyond redemption
The thing is by virtue of his knowledge, along with the numerous artifacts and magical tchotchkes, Jack was probably the most capable magic user in the world.
3:59 They’re such pools of vulnerability….it’s so cute-HOW YOU THINK THAT WOULD WORK ON ME!! Don’t you know, I’m dead inside? By the way, your nose is bleeding.
Pretty sure he means that in the movie, everyone has a wish they wanted and ofc they realized they already have what they wanted. For Jack however, his wish was to have all of the magic in the world yet he already does have all the magic artifacts in any fairy tale character. So for him wanting all the magic in the world like he said earlier.
Honestly Jack Horner was my favorite character in this movie. And they made the perfect choice with casting John Mulaney. Honestly John Mulaney needs to be in more movies.
The funny thing is that the deaths of all the bakers dozen was directly/indirectly his fault. He was busy searching his bag while his men were dying to the giant plants, he's killed some with his unicorn horn crossbow, he sent his carrage over a human bridge which resulted in all but one of the remaining bakers falling to their deaths, and the final one was hit by Horner's staff and knocked into the death barrier. "Im not really stressing about the manpower. Ive got a bottomless bag of magic weapons. These babies are gonna get me that wish even after the whole team is dead and gone" You werent kidding
I like how before he sinks into the Wishing Star, he's trapped waist deep inside. It looks like a reference to The Divine Comedy, in which Satan, at the very bottom of Hell, is trapped waist deep in the ice of Cocytus.
i actually feel sorry for Jack Horner because as a child he was considered lame and didnt make money compared to Pinocchio...he saw himself as a loser...he didnt want that in his life so he became a cunning being to gain all treasures of the worlds to become someone better than everyone so he isnt a loser anymore... he gained the rich and became blind of all the treasures he had to make him be successful was a downfall since he didnt treat them well to get help at the end of his life. he didnt understand how he fell...like in chess.... getting rid of most pieces and not learning how to use them to gain checkmate will result to failure.
Yeah, he's got something of an inferiority complex and a hatred for magical creatures, but it doesn't excuse his actions. That's actually what grinds my gears about the people who praise Jack for being an irredeemable villain;their reasoning. They conflate a villain having an *empathetic* backstory, a reason for why they do what they do, with that villain being 'redeemable'
Has there been a villain like this in a long time ? Pure evil, selfish, irremediable with no sad backstory ? It's not a rhetorical question. I mean I know that it's better for bad people to change than to use violence against them but there are people in this world who can't change and do terrible stuff for fun, our world is just that dark and so we must teach them that they can't get away with it.
@@shiny_teddiursa Honestly I never found Lord Farquad comedic, but with Jack Horner there's just something I love about him but I don't know what it is, maybe it's the fact that we haven't had an irremediable pure evil villian like him in a LONG time maybe it's his lines either way I can't figure it out.
@@Mr.Malliquin666 Farquad definitely wasn’t written to be as comedic as Jack, but he was overtly cruel (and very racist towards shrek right in his face every single time they interacted) to the point that is pretty absurd and funny, i’m pretty sure Farquad started the trend of not-serious but definitely evil villain, Jack follows that same trope but is much more refined, tbh idk how Shrek 5’s villain could even top Jack Horner but hopefully it’ll be pleasantly surprising, especially if the film has the same writers who worked on this film
@@shiny_teddiursa I think it’d be brilliant to make the next Shrek villain a greasy, bloated, loathsome, yet darkly amusing caricature of the current Disney CEO Bob Iger like how Lord Farquuad was a caricature of Michael Eisner.
0:41 ill finally have the one thing that will make me happy! All of the Magic in the world! For me! And no one else gets any! 😂 is that so much? Agree to disagree 😂
Poor Jack you never saw death because you were so clouded with you’re desire on a ridiculous wish. That’s why you die without understanding the true meaning of lofe
"Don't you know that I'm dead inside?"
That is easily the best line delivered by an animated villain in animation history.
My reaction when someone says that I didn’t cry at a sad movie
@Conrad By removing Excalibur, he prevented Shrek the Third
And bet someone would ask him like: "Sorry dude, you wanna talk about it?"
But Jack's gonna be like: "Oh don't worry, I'm the one who killed my feelings a LOOOONG time ago."
@Angelo Figueroa He has no emotional reactions
I don't know about that. He's not really in control of his emotions if anything.
"I was worried for a second i would come out naked, but my clothes grew too!" HAS ME FUCKIN DEAD BRUH 😂😂😂😂
You forgot to add cool
Holy frijoles (beans)…
And that it's an understandable saying when taking a potion or anything that would make you grow into a giant your clothes would tear of and you'd either be naked or coverd in ripped clothes
Not in all versions but yeah @Nameless82284
I can imagine how it would go if hid clothes didn't grow with him.
Puss: (With a disgusted look on his face alongside Kitty) "Well, we found a use for the wish after all..."
Mama Bear: (Immediately covering Baby Bear's and Goldie's eyes)
Papa Bear: "Heh heh, he's tiny."
2:43 I find it hilarious that Jack Horner packed a completley normal hatchet in his bag of magical weapons and doodads.
He basically packed everything except a kitchen sink.
I thought maybe it was the hatchet from little red riding hood
Either the Woodsman's axe from Little Red OR maybe the Huntsman's axe from Snow White?
Me too.
Isn't it the hatchet that one of his men lost after getting eaten by the plant?
"What specifically?"
"You killed my father."
"Do you know how little that narrows it down?"
Ya know when you know the reference but forget the name?
@@HigherBites refers to a quote uttered by the Batman Beyond animated series character Blight upon encountering Batman.
source: knowyourmeme
had to look it up myself.
My favorite personally was in a Street Fighter movie.
Chun Li tells Bison about how he burned his village and killed her people but they drove him off and asks him if he remember that day,
he responds by saying that he doesn't,
Li then asks him why,
he responds with this glorious line: "For you it was the worst day of your life, for me it was a Tuesday."
I honestly expected TFS quote of Dr.Jiro.
"WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS?!? I MEAN WHAT SPECIFICALLLLLLLLY!!!!"
Let’s see.
You ripped baby unicorn horns, killed a servant just for insulting you, got all of your henchmen.. should I go on?
@@traviswhitfield8045 yeah
A lot of grimey shit
I was like: "Bro, you don't even see the fact that the people you've employed are dead because of you!"
Boy. Where do I start?
0:28 always brings a tear to my eye. How can people call Jack a villain after he opens up about such a difficult childhood?
easily the most misunderstood character in cinema
Exactly! What did Jack do wrong? Like I mean what specifically?
Jack is everything a villain should be cold , funny , strong , deceitful . Don’t you know I’m dead inside .
fr i actually feel bad for jack
Too bad he died at the end. I really wanted him in a sequal or something. He was so funny
One thing I love about the ending of this movie is, how all the characters that were chasing after the Last Wish actually already had that wish come true before, they just hadn't realized it yet.
Puss had what it takes to overcome death hunting him down early in him all along, he just needed to realize that he should appreciate the life he has rather than wishing for more.
Kitty always had the someone she could trust in Puss, she too just needed to realize this and open up to him (same goes the other way around ofc).
Goldielocks already had her perfect family in the bears, but she was too obsessed with wanting a human family to recognize this, which changed along her journey.
And finally Jack, who wanted all the magic in the world. Truth is, he is the only character in this movie that uses magic artifacts and he probaply has the largest collection of them in existance.
He already had pretty much all the magic in the world, he just had to learn to appreciate it. Since he was incapable of this, he was too focussed on the map and in the end when it was destroyed, when all the other characters, who by that point came to the same conclusion about their wish already being fullfilled, abandoned ship, he stayed behind, which ultimately lead to his downfall.
What a great comment! So underrated!!
Read the part about Jack Horner's wish next time you hear him ask "What *specifically* did I do to deserve this?" 😄
Another similar movie played out but almost everyone got their wish, except for a hapless mime. That movie happened to be the Anamaniacs movie Wakko’s Wish.
Damn. Well written, bud. Well written
Wonderful analysis, dude. And yeah, Jack really did have all he could've wanted. He just refused to do any kind of introspection, and was so obsessed with the wish that it cost him EVERYTHING.
You got to appreciate a movie for having a villain like this. With all these magical creatures and animals it’s a human who turns out to be the biggest threat.
Never let them know your main bad guy
@@TheCEOMrGrizz “gah!! That’s horrible, your wish is horrible, YOU’RE HORRIBLE!! YOU’RE AN IRREDEEMABLE MONSTER!!”
@@masterzombie161 “OHH, Ohh, What took ya so long?, IDIOT!” *SMACK*
@@TheCEOMrGrizz 🤣🤣 never gets old
@@masterzombie161 never will
“Is that so much?”
“YES!”
“Agree to disagree”
😂
Gotta dig a villain with personality and an arsenal of weapons for every occasion.
And ones for jokes
*COUGH COUGH* hatchet
Gilgamesh 2.0
I love Big Jack Horner. He's the kind of animated villain we haven't seen in a long time.
Someone who's not one bit sympathetic or a surprise villain. He's just straight up evil, knows it and loves every second of it.
The kind of villain Disney has been lacking in recent years
Technically he is sympatethic, because we have all experienced greed and humiliation. They just ramped it up to 11
I am going to miss him
0:28
How could you say he's not a sympathetic character?!?!
He's the definition of Disney, they have all the magic and abilities to be extremely powerful but they misuse their magic and abilities which causes them to fail
See also: Patrick Bateman, Palpatine, Snidely Whiplash, etc.
It's nice to have a villain that is actually motivated by just wanting power for power again. Which is normally how villains are in real life.
He is motivated by having all magic. He hates all magic creatures but wants their power
I love how his last resort is just a non magical hatchet lmao
Only packed to make that joke. Garuenteed
@@TheCEOMrGrizz Storm comin? Hatchet comin.
It may very well be the hatchet used by (the other) Jack to cut down the beanstalk.
@@escopeto7849 You mean the stalk that they grew in the first movie? And why would that be magical?
@@Derpzilla-tw2ox Because in the original fairytale, the Beanstalk was abnormally strong and could hold the Giant. It took a magically enhanced hatchet to cut it down.
Big Jack Horner's axe has some dents in it, presumably from that Beanstalk cut.
1:21 “That was horrible, your wish is horrible, YOU’RE HORRIBLE”
“Oh, oh, what took you so long, idiot?”😂
Can't help but feel bad for the cricket. How horrified he clearly felt at how evil Jack was. And after genuinely trying to be a good conscience.
The cricket and Jack was the funniest dialogue in the whole movie. A purely good character trying to help a purely evil character.... its actually rare when the evil character stays evil in the end in these movies!
I wonder if the cricket was the first magical thing that Jack Horner stole? He was shown being jealous of the attention that Pinocchio was getting as a little boy, which is where Jimminy should’ve prolly been at the time. He could’ve been trapped in that jar for decades!
@@davidrich27 Jiminy Cricket has already appeared in the Shrek universe and might actually be dead. (Canonicity Pending) So the Ethical Bug is an entirely different character. Or you know, retconning, whichever works for you...
@@Goc4ever did you delete your comment?
As evil as Jack Horner was, at least he was nice enough to 3:51 show concern for Perrito's hernia and 4:10 let him know his nose was bleeding.
Not all villains are pure evil
He also genuinely thinks he appreciates his Bakers Dozen too, but when push came to shove, he just brushes their deaths off like it was nothing 0:11
@@DLxxx i think he was just being sarcastic with the ethical bug, he didn’t give a f*ck about the bakers dozen
And I also like how his evilness isn't caused by a bad youth or SOMETHING like that. Some people are just born broken, and we've had enough villains who became like that due to trauma and/or heartbreak, or something else in their lives they virtually had no control over. Jack had a great childhood if what he said wasn't sarcastic. He just is a POS because he likes to be that way.
@@Ned-nw6ge yes, some people are just like that. However, Jack is also really careless and foolish in his actions, all of his kills were accident.
“what did i do to deserve this?! i mean what specifically?!”
alright, here we go.
*deep breath*
*rap god begins playing*
All of the above
If it had to be narrowed down to one: stealing Excalibur.
Consider in Shrek 3 how Merlin was a kook and Arthur was a wuss. Since Excalibur was ripped from its original place, neither of them had the chance to fulfill their destiny in the traditional sense, and it took an intervening Shrek to shake them out of their slumps. In other words, by stealing Excalibur, Jack Horner ruined Shrek the Third.
@@LightningStarSCshrek the third was always ruined tho
@@LightningStarSC given how jack Horner’s flashback back was set before the first shrek film. After the defeat of farquaad, Jack began collecting fairy tale items unnoticed.
2:18 This bit absolutely killed me because he said what I was thinking about the whole clothes wearing thing Baby had going on.
Can’t really blame baby for wanting them though. Back in the day, like Middle Ages back in the day, purple dye was really hard to come by, ergo it was really expensive, so if you had a purple outfit you were either royalty or really rich by other means.
Also in some rough areas of England where you hear these accents, it wouldn't be unfamiliar if someone beat you up and stole your jacket or nice shoes etc
Jack: "Well you know what they say, can't bake a pie without loosing a dozen men."
Turns out Dozen = 12 and Baker's Dozen = 13 for some reason.
So what Jack was saying was not just a joke at having lost a bunch of people, he was ACTUALLY referring to the fact that he had lost EXACTLY a dozen people up to that point, with only Nutmegan (yes that is her name) left out of the baker's dozen.
Nutmegan! Oh that’s fantastic.
Slightly off topic, but for anyone interested, apparently a baker's dozen is thirteen because of an old practice in which bakers, when asked for a dozen loaves of bread, would provide 13 instead in case one of them turned out to be unsatisfactory.
@@lanturn4950 I always assumed it was for the baker to sample them
His name was Jerry and he was the only member of Big Jack Horner's Baker's Dozen to get called by name when he was mourned by Betty Crocker, one the three bakers who were shot by Jack Horner with unicorn horns( the other two being Pete Cobbler and Tommy Lee Scones).
I love how you can see him rolling his eyes at 0:24, like he instantly decides he's going to mess with the ethical bug.
0:00 - 1:31, it’s pretty funny how Jack kept mentally tormenting the Ethical Bug until he finally realized Jack was an irredeemable monster. But imagine if Jack said this instead, “Oh, oh, what took you so long? Bitch!”
Well limitations will be limitations, though that would be hilarious xD
@@linkibear8644 They could have beeped it like for perrito
"Oh, oh, what took you so long ? *Beep* "
I love the "oh, oh.." part, where he's just mocking Cricket
Or, "Dumbass"!"
Ehh tbh I think its even better that he just calls him an idiot😆
Having Jack horner being paired with Jimmy cricket is brilliant.
This is conscious being forced to be with someone who has non.
Someone mentioned this in another video that it's pretty ironic that Jack is being paired with a character who helped Pinocchio who pretty much ruined Jack's career
@@BanishedSilentShadow3318 OH SHIT TRUE!!! fuck thats so good
The guy was so charming that even if he was a complete jerk, I still wanted him to win a little.
Maybe because he's just honest and self-aware.
he doesn't apologize, reason, or lie about his intent or nature.
And in a time, where the biggest problems are caused by mental disorders gone viral, bigotry, manipulation, narcissistic personality cults and gaslighting, it's a breath of fresh air to have a villain step up and just acknowledge he's the asshole in the room. Add a sarcastic, flamboyant personality to the mix, and you have comedy gold. Kinda remembers me about Hades from Disneys Hercules. Wouldn't go as far as cheering for Jack to win, but since he posses a honest provocation, without berating anyone for trying to fight him (unlike most other villains nowadays, who have wannabe-deep tragic/sympathetic backstories), I certainly would enjoy my time to pick up arms and throw everything in the book at him.
He is the classical evil to the classical good hero everybody wants to be, so he makes the fight against him not only fun, but feel good, too. Jack is a fat bastard packed full with charisma, and although not every tale of heroism needs a villain like him, many get elevated by them, and he's the perfect canvas to vent some steam at. Many wish back times when we were younger and live seemed simpler, and him being the pure black we sometimes wish were so easily identifiable in real life now that we've grown up, is a large part of what makes him work as a likable villain, precisely because he has a personality one can easily hate, and enjoy on hating without a guilty conscious.
I wouldn't like to see Jack win, but I certainly wish he survived to fight on another day, and give us a pause from villains who manipulate and gaslight their victims to appear as the good guy, bigots that think their cause sanctifies their actions, or narcissists who torture their environment, just because they got hurt themselves, once. Otherwise, I take any villain like him we can get.
Hades, The Joker (Dark Knight), Loki, Jaffar(& Iago), and now Big Jack Horner. We need more villains with primal evil energy that are just fun to watch / go up against.
@@sgt.bonkers8706 Facts he is so fun to watch lol
to be fair, he was already a very wealthy business owner and had a huge collection of magic artifacts before all this, he went on the journey for the wishing start due to pure megalomania, he got what deserved
@@sgt.bonkers8706he doesn't lie about who he is but still didn't tell the truth when he said about his family being rich and loving, it clearly wasn't when we see it. Oh, and also he tries to run an ordinary, charming bakery despite being a terrorist and a menace to society. He also apologized when he accidentally shot his men.
You know he kinda broke the 4th wall because when he said “what did I do to deserve this?”
Me:”Everything”
“I mean what specifically?”
He's incredibly self aware
@@CrossoverFan4life yeah pretty much
He said “Let me rephrase that.”
@@TheCEOMrGrizz oh ok
@@supershyguyyt2095 I mean, WHAT SPECIFICALLY!?
Love the cricket's expressions from 0:25 to 0:55
then the bonus at 1:23
_Especially_ 0:52 - 0:55.
Dude shifted emotions like a gearshift
No wonder Jack kept the bug, it's despair was *hilarious!*
I thought I was the ONLY one who thought it was funny that Jimminy changed expressions from Happy Child to straight up Horrified.
0:52 - 0:55
It makes me feel better knowing that I'm not alone.
Gotta love that even in a movie with the literal embodiment of death this guy was a bigger threat.
Death winning meant puss loses. Jack winning means EVERYONE loses.
If Jack Horner memorized the lines of the map, it would be done for
I'm pretty sure, as a magical artifact, the map itself is required to wish.
@@lucaswinsor4469 Plus, you'd need to speak the rhyme in full for it to work. Some strange magic-thing that has special requirements, otherwise, AMYONE could've used up the Last Wish a LONG time ago and this story, would be really, REALLY short! ^^
I believe Jack’s drive isn’t to get money or power, it’s to have all the magic that he didn’t get as a kid and no longer be upstaged by anyone else with magic by making sure that “no one else gets any.”
He can still be upstaged...
2:45 "THE HATCHETT"!!!
Immediately gets kicked in the face into the bottomless bag by kitty, kitty then throws him a ✌ and closes the bag🤣🤣🤣
“I’ve been called a lot of things, but never death. I like it”
He looks like a pink trump lol How bout we go with that
5:12-5:14 Love that Terminator reference.
Me too.
@@nathancruz9172 Cool.
T1000's death in Judgment Day?
@@brockfilmzinc1No Arnold’s T-800 one
Wait I didn't even realize that
I love villains that have a drive and delivers such a good portrayal of their character.
5:07 When you’re the imposter and you get voted out
3:13 well Jack, it is a dreamworks movie afterall, not a tim burton creation
That one took me a moment. lol
I don’t get it
@@PussInBootsTheLastWishFan2003 In the Tim Burton version of Alice in Wonderland, Alice's clothes didn't grow or shrink with her.
Cool
@@TheCEOMrGrizz No! Not cool!
That last hench-woman understood the assignment. Nice to know Jack had competent manpower, he ask if she was chatty and she didn't speak, most henchmen or henchwomen would've spoken which would be an automatic disqualification. Good help trully is jard to come by so you gotta appreciate those that do.
the only good thing about Jack Horner is his humorous personality and the fact he's voiced by JOHN MULANEY-
Mulaney also voiced Chip in the Chip and Dale movie.
He also voiced Spider-Ham in Into the Spider-verse
At first I thought it was Nathan Lane (Timon).
@@MrCliffda3rd I don’t really blame you
I hear it now lol
A straight up classical villain that has personal goals and is evil for the sake of evil . Disney has tried to make their movies more relevant and not play on cliches . But sometimes it doesn’t matter, people want a villain they love to hate . I’d say Dreamworks and other studios are doing better than Disney. For every Frozen and Encanto there is one Spiderverse or Puss in Boots:TLW
But, the fact that Horner is both loved for being just the worst, and being just the worst is a very large breath of fresh air from the other Villains most recently
What’s wrong with Frozen and Encanto?
@@detectivewobbuffet2778 Nothing. But their “villains” weren’t really villains
@@TheCEOMrGrizz And so what?
@@detectivewobbuffet2778 Nothing! Enjoy what you please
Next to Death, Jack Horner is the best thing about Puss In Boots: The Last Wish, and his scenes with the Ethical Bug are the funniest.
Seems best jacks moments is all moments lol
4:20 yep.
This movie was secretly really horrifying, disintergrations, people being eaten to the bone, exploding, they cleverly covered it up with fantasy funsies
Before I watched this movie I saw this character in a video and thought that he was treated like trash and wanted to prove to everybody that he's not to be messed with, but after watching his backstory I was surprised and kept watching movie clips that included him just to make sure that he really is pure evil and doesn't have a sob backstory.
I hope he just got back into the magic bag and is perfectly fine he’s a villain we never wanted but we needed
0:54 I just pictured the Disney version of Jiminy being in this scene instead and having that exact same facial expression.....can't stop laughing 😂
Jimmy who?
@@blueraccoon1088Jiminy Cricket.
Sure, he's evil but he's also funny.
"Don't you know I'm dead inside?" - An absolute mood XD
By the way, your nose is bleeding.
2:13
I can't get over Baby Bear having that accent 😂😂
Aha! It's bear season.😏😏😏😏
5:07
Jack: What did I do to deserve this?!
Me: You’re kidding, right?
Jack: I mean what specifically?!
Me: Do you want the full list or just the top five?
The things He did to deserve this:
1. Health code violation
2. 1st degree murder
3. Assault of weapon
4. Assault with bodily harm
5. Animal abuse 2x
6. Manslaughter 12x
7. 2nd degree attempted murder 3x
4:57 Glad that the cricket got his revenge
Phoenix: This is for making me a flamethrower!
5:02
The fact that (Jack's voice actor ) John Mahaney is a skinny dude and Jack is a big fat guy makes me smile inside whenever i recognize the voice.
The cricket’s despairing “There’s good in all people, there’s good in all people-“ was just perfect
1:19 While other villains deny their evil or try to be redeemable or even say they are misunderstood Jack Horner is literally the king of all villains because he not only is aware of his evil behavior but also doesn’t hide it from others which is why he is disgusted that it took Jimminy Cricket so long to see he is beyond redemption
The thing is by virtue of his knowledge, along with the numerous artifacts and magical tchotchkes, Jack was probably the most capable magic user in the world.
4:04
... Basically every American politician. 😂
Nah. Thats politicians in a nutshell.
100%
He does look like a pink trump
Zionist when people try to reason with them.
The only terminator reference where the thumb isn’t up
3:59 They’re such pools of vulnerability….it’s so cute-HOW YOU THINK THAT WOULD WORK ON ME!! Don’t you know, I’m dead inside? By the way, your nose is bleeding.
Ohh.
*wipes nose*
I was just buying some time, for Team Friendship
@@TheCEOMrGrizz team what?
@@josemoreno4636 *Goldi throws Puss and Kitty*
HEY!
*proceeds to be stabbed in the thumbs*
OOOHHH!
Spanish splinter!!
"Now there are pieces of Jack Horner around every corner, no longer eating Horner pies."
And now his giant thumb's purple as a dead plum as we see how that bad boy dies.
4:58 "You Looking for something? Consider this my resignation, mister!"
5:06 what?
I love jack he is irredeemable and hilarious
3:13 love this line so much lmao
What’s funny is jack would have to wish a variation of his original wish in order for it to work
I don’t think I know what you mean by that-
r/ihadastroke
Idk what he said
Pretty sure he means that in the movie, everyone has a wish they wanted and ofc they realized they already have what they wanted. For Jack however, his wish was to have all of the magic in the world yet he already does have all the magic artifacts in any fairy tale character. So for him wanting all the magic in the world like he said earlier.
@@BanishedSilentShadow3318 oh aight
3:19 HE SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE THE HEAVY FROM TF2
He actually does
I hear it now
I hear it and I'm laughing now.
You know in a way he got his wish as he got the full blast of the last wishing star all for himself.
Happy pie day from big Jack Horner.
Billybot: Statement: I like pie!
I just realized that the horses puling the carriage are hornless unicorns. If that doesn't scream unredeemable then I don't know what does.
How do you think he got the horns for the crossbow
I'm so glad this movie actually allowed characters to say 'kill' and 'crap'.
Plus crap is a pretty mild word anyway
Horner wanted magic, well it looks like he got his wish because he just became a part of it: 5:12
So that wishing star was never meant for people to find after all.
That puppy eyes are so hilarious 😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🐺😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣
2:43 Okay, okay you know, maybe it’s time to bury the HATCHET!!!!!
GAUGHAGHUA
OHH I SHOULDN’T HAVE TELEGRAPHED IT
@@TheCEOMrGrizz magic snacks
@@josemoreno4636 HAAAHAHAHAHAAAA
Holy frijoles
@@TheCEOMrGrizz I was worried for a second, I would come out naked..but my clothes grew too. Cool! Thank you!
“What did I do to deserve this? I mean what specifically?!?” His last words really mean something.
Honestly Jack Horner was my favorite character in this movie. And they made the perfect choice with casting John Mulaney. Honestly John Mulaney needs to be in more movies.
The funny thing is that the deaths of all the bakers dozen was directly/indirectly his fault. He was busy searching his bag while his men were dying to the giant plants, he's killed some with his unicorn horn crossbow, he sent his carrage over a human bridge which resulted in all but one of the remaining bakers falling to their deaths, and the final one was hit by Horner's staff and knocked into the death barrier.
"Im not really stressing about the manpower. Ive got a bottomless bag of magic weapons. These babies are gonna get me that wish even after the whole team is dead and gone"
You werent kidding
Jack's wish is proof that he's *much* crazier than Death.
2:50 I shouldn’t have telegraphed it!
3:49 PLEEAASSEE🤣🤣🤣 I am witnessing perfection🤣🤣🤣🥹🥹🥹
Jack Horner is the ultimate villain
4:27 Spanish splinter
DOUBLE SPANISH SPLINTER!!
AHhhhhhhhhhHhhhhhhHHHH!!!!!!!!!
1:31
I never realized the stuff left behind is one of his legs and a wing. Dude basically dismembered him
I laughed at the whole scene of when Jack was talking to Jiminy cricket lol
I like how before he sinks into the Wishing Star, he's trapped waist deep inside. It looks like a reference to The Divine Comedy, in which Satan, at the very bottom of Hell, is trapped waist deep in the ice of Cocytus.
i actually feel sorry for Jack Horner because as a child he was considered lame and didnt make money compared to Pinocchio...he saw himself as a loser...he didnt want that in his life so he became a cunning being to gain all treasures of the worlds to become someone better than everyone so he isnt a loser anymore... he gained the rich and became blind of all the treasures he had to make him be successful was a downfall since he didnt treat them well to get help at the end of his life. he didnt understand how he fell...like in chess.... getting rid of most pieces and not learning how to use them to gain checkmate will result to failure.
Yeah, he's got something of an inferiority complex and a hatred for magical creatures, but it doesn't excuse his actions.
That's actually what grinds my gears about the people who praise Jack for being an irredeemable villain;their reasoning. They conflate a villain having an *empathetic* backstory, a reason for why they do what they do, with that villain being 'redeemable'
"You're an irredeemable monster" in a Jimmy Stewart impression is one of my favorite lines in any movie
"That was horrible! Your wish is horrible! YOU'RE HORRIBLE!"
There's a reason that moment became a meme.
5:07 “What did I do to deserve this?! I mean WHAT SPECIFICALLY?!?!”
I take comfort that the horses got safely across that bridge of bakers before they fell to their deaths.
They're not horses. They're unicorns with severed horns.
@@Samuel152And chances were, given his collection of baby unicorn horns, Jack's had them since they were foals.
Has there been a villain like this in a long time ? Pure evil, selfish, irremediable with no sad backstory ? It's not a rhetorical question. I mean I know that it's better for bad people to change than to use violence against them but there are people in this world who can't change and do terrible stuff for fun, our world is just that dark and so we must teach them that they can't get away with it.
the Shrek movies always had the best and most comedic villains in american animation, Jack Horner is like a more evil Lord Farquad, it’s hilarious
@@shiny_teddiursa Honestly I never found Lord Farquad comedic, but with Jack Horner there's just something I love about him but I don't know what it is, maybe it's the fact that we haven't had an irremediable pure evil villian like him in a LONG time maybe it's his lines either way I can't figure it out.
@@Mr.Malliquin666 Farquad definitely wasn’t written to be as comedic as Jack, but he was overtly cruel (and very racist towards shrek right in his face every single time they interacted) to the point that is pretty absurd and funny, i’m pretty sure Farquad started the trend of not-serious but definitely evil villain, Jack follows that same trope but is much more refined,
tbh idk how Shrek 5’s villain could even top Jack Horner but hopefully it’ll be pleasantly surprising, especially if the film has the same writers who worked on this film
@@shiny_teddiursa
I think it’d be brilliant to make the next Shrek villain a greasy, bloated, loathsome, yet darkly amusing caricature of the current Disney CEO Bob Iger like how Lord Farquuad was a caricature of Michael Eisner.
@@TPDManiacXC626I feel like they’ll make the villain more like Bob Chapek seeing how “well loved” that dude was
He’s like a gamer who bought loads of hacks.
He’s basically the closest thing we’ll get to Porky Minch from the MOTHER series in a film. They are just straight up the same character.
4:25 ❤️ strikes back
2:43 Idk how many times I've replayed this one part. It never gets old.
Jiminy: YOU'RE HORRIBLE
Jack: 😏
0:41 ill finally have the one thing that will make me happy! All of the Magic in the world! For me! And no one else gets any! 😂 is that so much? Agree to disagree 😂
1:01 to 1:05 Jack SHOULD have brought a bridge in his backpack. 🤣🤣🤣
“What did I do to deserve this?! I mean what **specifically?**”
Favourite line
That Axe is probably the Leviathan Axe from God Of War.
1:14 omg here it is
3:13 BIGGEST JACK HORNER.
3:07 Jack Horner grow giant
3:14 a well planned joke, I like the attention to detail here (and in the whole movie in general)
5:02 I know its only for a second and from a completely different movie, but that sound really brought back all the memories.
explain please
@@carjockey2135 It sounds like Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2
@@equinox-XVI ooh!! I actually never seen either of the Panda movies 😅
I doubt any of his henchmen know what he wants-because if they did, none of them would serve him anymore.
Poor Jack you never saw death because you were so clouded with you’re desire on a ridiculous wish.
That’s why you die without understanding the true meaning of lofe