The halfling pulls the ring from the hearth and notices runes now glowing upon it. "There is some sort of inscription, but my vision isn't as good as it used to be so I can not read it." The wizard pulls out his magnifying glass and inspects the ring, noting a miniscule wall of text. "The font is that of Micro Machines, and I shall not repeat in it's entirety here. In summary, it says that you take damage and it's now the ranger's turn, git gud."
About the Nosferatu story... it's pretty obvious that the Storyteller (GM, for the non-White Wolf players) was planning on making OP's life hell. For those who don't know, the Nosferatu are a cursed clan - not on the same level as Gargoyles, but still cursed. A Nosferatu is UGLY with a capital ugh, and can't shapeshift in any way (even a Mage's powers, otherwise literally able to rewrite reality, don't work on a Nosferatu's looks) and his face literally sends people screaming in panic. Seriously, they're borderline terrifying, so much that in the Vampire videogame (yes, it exists) they're forced to feed on RATS or sneak on their victims, because they can't approach anyone without causing mass hysteria. Suffice to say, their social life outside of the Vampire courts is a disaster, and even within the courts it's pretty much "court jester" level. So, when OP actually showed enthusiasm at the idea of playing a Nosferatu he pulled the plug - it's not fun to mess with someone who doesn't suffer because of it. Yes, I had to deal with this kind of GMs more than once, and I think it shows.
Sounds like OP's time playing would be either staying sideline to avoid panic, or getting punished for trying to do anything. Which is to say: they'd be there for 2 sessions at best, and kicked for either being a problem or uninvolved.
"Suffice to say, their social life outside of the Vampire courts is a disaster" If there's a Nosferatu Warren in the city, then that will usually be the main source of support and connections for the vampire. One benefit of this clan is that its members stick together with a strong cohesion.
Yeah I got the feeling that OP was going to be a patsy that gets picked on by ST and the rest of the group to either scare OP from gaming for good (classic gatekeeper behavior) along with being sidelined then booted. I hope OP finds a group that welcome them at some point
While I agree that playing Nosferatu is harder, you do have Obfuscate and with that Mask of a Thousand Faces for example. We had a a Vampire group with two Nosferatu and the player always had stuff to do. (Btw the Nosferatu npcs in Bloodlines are the best, especially Gary Golden).
😮😁He read my story!!! Also that story was like over 16 years ago 😅, something I forgot to mention. I have ADHD so I get super excited over things I like, such as stuff like joining friends for games.
Or comfortable/trust you, or not hunting you, etc etc I always find it weird how so many cat owners have them as a second thought. Cats are so of the most loving and amazing pets, but some people just can't with them because cats aren't like dogs and communicate differently
As someone who grew up with micromachines and has the old Nintendo game of it, I absolutely love it! Even if I feel old as dirt remembering the stuff, even having one of those yellow carrying cases for them.
People really need to relearn the concept of shame. Like with that Dungeon Master voice story, if that guy just kept to himself and didn't proudly declare how he was polishing his flagpole to the DM's voice, people wouldn't think he's an absolute creep. I'm not saying we should shame everything, but just a little bit of shame wouldn't hurt, right?
As much as I feel that nobody has the right to tell anybody how to live, I think we do need to re-introduce some idea of shame over certain sexual things as a society. We’ve gone too far in the other direction.
@jordanwhite8718 if we do you better be OK with how far it goes its either we shame or we don't shame, people can't self control enough for there to be a middle ground
@@dream6562 And that right there is exactly the problem. We need to teach people how to have more self control. We should not be living in a society where that creep felt very comfortable, telling the dungeon master what he was doing in hopes that maybe she would become attracted to him? Unfortunately, the Internet has taught me things about sexual deviance that I didn’t really want to learn. And as much as I would rather people just be allowed to live and let live, unfortunately people can’t be trusted with that all the time.
@@dream6562 your being ridiculous. Plenty of people feel plenty of shame. The WORLD is a middle lane. there is no yes/no question, and your insistance to the contrary is unrealistic.
Never be the dark mysterious character who is too dark and mysterious to be bothered to interact normally with others. People like that in real life are always creeps. Why would anything be different in game?
Here's a less horrible but odd story I've heard. A GM was running a game with a female cyclops NPC and a player was acting weird. GM peeked under the table and succeeded on the Wis save to keep a poker face. Player later spoke to them in private and deeply apologized for letting his fetish get the better of him. Player still stayed in the group since the incident never occurred again and apart from the incident the player was an okay guy.
The first GM sounds like he was just a jerk. I wouldn't say "Nosferatu only" is really a red flag. Nos in particular have some very specific factors that I would say make it justifiable to restrict players to only Nosferatu for certain games. To be fair, I have only played VtR, not VtM (2nd edition versus 1st edition) so Nos in VtM may have been different, but in VtR Nos are almost always disfigured and take social penalties, so it's more difficult for them to interact with people especially any humans. They also sometimes have underground secret cities where usually only Nos are allowed, so I could see it being very reasonable to restrict the PCs to only playing Nosferatu if the GM wants to run a game set entirely in a necropolis, for instance.
In Masquerade it was the same - a Nosferatu at his best looked like someone who survived a thirty car pileup... barely. And then ended in a tiger cage face first. And then at the hospital they used sulfuric acid rather than antiseptic. Mechanically speaking, while other characters had looks from one dot upwards a Nosferatu had... MINUS ONE. Yes, they had negative one die.
DM Voice Story. I was a sailor for a few years. I have heard about many different fetishes people have. But this is a new one for me. I have told others for years now that for everything out there there is at least one person on this planet that has a fetish for it. And the longer I live the more true that becomes.
Idk why but that guy with the familiar in his bag seem to have this idea that the party is going to be like. "Who are you talking too?" "Oh it's just my familiar 'X'" "Can we see him?" 'Sure, come on out X" And then just follow the party which was not what happened at all.
This once kind of happened to me in real life. This guy on the bus kept talking into his backpack, which he was wearing on his chest instead of his back. For a moment I wondered if he was crazy or high, but the way he was speaking was like how someone talks to their pet so I wondered if he had a cat or something in the backpack. It turned out to be a white rat! He took it out and let it sit on his shoulder the rest of the ride. The whole way I was glancing around wondering if anyone else was seeing this!
The 'talk to the bag' concept COULD have worked, I think, if the guy had played it like Gollum - in other words, like he was talking, apparently to himself by a different name, about what was going on, not just about something irrelevant. Like, the players approach and he's like 'why look, Mr. Pixie-Face! It's a party of adventurers, yes it is! Do they know the way to town, I wonder? Shall I tell them, Mr. Pixie-Face; what do you think?' That would have given them an opening to say something like 'yes we do know the way', or 'no we don't', or whatever, and it could have gone from there. But, 20-20 hindsight, I guess.
Put that last story. I had a similar situation where a player tried to tell me what I should be doing my game, and I cut them loose right then and there. And as far as the no reaction GM story. Why did OP say they handled the situation immaturely? After all, when they messaged him with their concerns, and he ignored them. They could have just gotten rid of him at that moment. So by giving him a taste of his own medicine, he was giving opportunity to sit back, reflect and say. Oh, that's what I was doing to you guys.
Yes but it's also not your place to be putting other people in their place You're not that important just let him go let him reflect on it later if they come back being like apologetic or some shit then maybe give him a chance but it's just douchey to enact things in game instead of just being adults.
As for the bag guy. I think the DM should have talked to it and try to see where he wanted to take the bag think. The thing about roleplay. Sometimes you just got to make sure everyone is on the same page.
Talking to his bag guy, it's kind of an interesting quirk...it worked with Folly in Aeronaut's WIndlass who talked to a jar of crystals, but the guy from this story....it doesn't sound like he really thought it out.
The guy who pulls the too slow crap pisses me off. Granted, I would simply pretend that the damage didn't happen, and if he wants the damage to start counting, he has talk at normal human speed. If a D.M. can't speak like a normal person for any reason that is very clearly not a disability or other form of speech impediment, I will treat that D.M. like the child they are. And if they try to insult me by talking sloth slow, I will give them the perfect way to understand what speed they should speak at by flipping them off so long as they are talking too slow or too fast. Definitely not a good solution, since walking out will save you any further pain, assuming the D.M. is simply being petty.
Ah, the Micro Machines Guy. I loved those commercials back in the day. And, oh boy, the "It's too complicated for you" argument. I'm in a pf2e campaign full of noobs where I play and alchemist with an oracle as my backup. On of our martials is a thaumaturge. And then there's the gunslinger. Our two most straightforward characters are the fighter and sorcerer. It's been fun so far.
Of course out of game issues need out of game solutions but I am a fan of using someone's own bs agaisnt them. Trying to speed past reaction abilities only to have it done back is brilliant. Shame they couldn't realize the error of their ways
My wife works in social services that help the public, and every now and then, they get a caller that likes to do this to female’s voices. They forward it to a guy if that happens, and they hang up immediately and try again later.
Accusation Story. This sounds more like a misunderstanding than some one out to get OP. OP said that no one seemed surprised, upset, or shocked they were back. More than likely this was not a regular who complained and mistook whoever was DM'ing in the store that night for OP, who was not there. This has happened to me a few times before so I can see it happening here as well.
React Quicker Yeah. The DM did not want players to use reactions. I think he just wanted to kill PC’s. When discussion fails, you either leave or get petty.
i have a simple tale short but gets the point across i wanted to join a game as i was lacking dnd. see a post needing players and apply, over text tge dm seems cool and lets me in, i join the server mention im asian and get call a slur. leave before the finish what they were saying
Oh the Lucky! Such pretty eyes, and then - what else do we get - Simba in SIMBA-VISION! I feel bad for the guy in the first story, I loved playing Nosferatu - the sneaky spies of the clans. The second story geesh! And for the last story, I love the DM in that (no, not like the guy in the second story) in that they kept a strong backbone and advocated for their players against a bully.
Okay, people who solve problems creatively need to stop saying tht they were immature. Some people need correction or else they'll never understand what they're doing to other people. Maybe the next group GM that refused to allow reactions was a part of next benefitted from what the party in the fifth segment did.
The only other possible response would have been to just drop the game entirely, but I doubt Mr. Micromachines would have gotten the hint. Then again, I'm guessing he was doing this on purpose and just didn't want PC reaction mechanics to mess with his precious campaign - though note how he was perfectly willing to allow encounters to use reactions.
Not good at chatty character intro? I suggest tailing the party without their knowledge, rather than acting like an insane vagabond, and expecting DM to fix it. Yes, this works. I played a mute (see: neck wound) Poisondusk Lizardfolk Ranger, carefully rebalanced for 5e, that spent the first two sessions tailing the party with really good stealth and occasional ranged firesupport. They did pick up on someone was helping them, but being really sneaky about it. Eventually i got caught. All part of my plan though. Barbarian wants to interrogate me, but Cleric notices the pretty gnarly throat scar, and points out its pointless, I can't speak. Distinctive fletching on my arrows gives me away though, so I'm in the party. Barb has trust issues until my prowess as a hunter is realized. Party has meat options in every meal then. Barb so happy!
"What did he expect to happen after that" Its fetish mining, he was hoping they would be into it/flattered and couldn't take a hint early in the conversation, you'll see ppl do this in chats, posting hella NSFW stuff or borderline memes, they're looking for responses/reactions and usually start posting some weird shit if you don't check them early on it.
Sometimes I enjoy listening too some one’s voice like Morgan freeman or William strife. But that’s more of a I’d fall asleep because of how calm and nice there voice’s are.
I'm so sick of weirdo dudes thinking that being unnecessarily forthcoming about their sexual fantasies to people as a way to....get them to like them(?) is okay and acceptable. Bro, touch grass and seek help.
I think the reason Tom confessed was specifically to make the DM uncomfortable (similarly, this is why people cat call, they know it won't result in the target wanting to bang them, they just want to make said target uncomfortable). He also probably went on to brag about how he "triggered some snowflakes".
VTM is not for rookie roleplayers. Double and triple crossing other characters is a core feature of the game. As is keeping things on the DL. Maybe try VTM when you've built up some RP chops.
I really liked the micro machines guy comment. I rewatched the transformers animated movie a few months ago and he was in it as one of the autobots. Now I want to watch it again.
@@GodOfPlague thanks, couldn’t remember the name of the character. Blur is very appropriate. I know what you mean. In the regular show they are standing like 5 feet apart and can’t hit anything while shooting but the movie was so different.
The only time I try to dissuade someone from picking something it’s a new player picking path of the berzerker barbarian in 5e and only cause I’ve seen how it drains the fun out of the game once they realize how debilitating exhaustion is when it starts to stack up.
Ugh..there aren't any "bad" classes in PF2e. Sure, some are a bit better than others, but it's a minor thing. And it sounds like the Remaster will be even better.
I'm a rules lawyer, ngl, but I respect the DM's decision, cause at the end of the day they decide the rules, the only time its an issue, for me is when the dm allows so much homebrew that they don't even follow up on that the game becomes incredibly imbalanced and near unplayable.
Hah, your cat close-ups are getting closer every time. Next video I expect the screen to be filled with just a cat's nose or eye. lol I wouldn't mind that though.
Dm voice story reminds me of that weird ass phone sex line from the old days. Where people would pay people to be nsfw on the phone. Good lord I cringe at the fact that I know that from the weird ass 2000 adult swim shows.
I know it from seeing the endless commercials for them after 10 or 11 PM. You couldn't watch an hour-long show without seeing _three_ of the same commercial, it seemed.
I think you could do with someone, and have your channel plugged or mixed into some other plays. I don't know. I mean these stories can get quite thick, and then UA-cam just washes you off my homepage. Some of these have really good lessons in them.
So the V:TM Game masters only rule for Joining their game was...Not being Excited about Joining the Game? Um... well. Where do you even start with something like that?
Aside from the snide comment after the fact, I don't really think bag guy did anything wrong. C'moooooon! Let's be real, we all know he's a pc, we all know he's meant to join. "Let's continue, because that's what our characters would do." Shut up, interact with him! Do something! Pretend to be the bag and talk to him, barbarian punches the bag for ignoring them, cast animate object on the bag, nah, just walk away and make our friend feel bad for no reason.
That's "meta" reasoning, though. In more casual or light-hearted games, that would be how it works, yes...but some people prefer "deep immersion" games with more realistic interactions. I've mostly played in the lighthearted sort of game, so I get where you're coming from, but I also know not everyone games that way.
I think I know the person who used the bag. If it's who I think I am sure it is They are not a good person. The DM after In the story that follows It reminds me of a d m I had in a west march They would literally not allow If anything that did not fit their very strict concept. It was like fourth edition all over again. You can't ask what you can do You can only be told what you're allowed to do. Also, this guy always tried to hurt us with cursed armor but the only good benefits that came from it were given to his friends. Everyone else was just, oh no, now you have cursed armor forever. Now you're going to die in the next seven days Unless you spend a Hundred gold a day To pay for its upkeep. Because they were a dick
I slightly disagree with you on the talking to the bag story, Mr. Doge. We'll never know all the details but it seemed to have happened rather quick, and the character concept is a bit unusual but i think a little more effort or another chance would have been alright. idk it seems stuck up to me is all.
I might be projecting too much of myself into that story, but I feel like the player might have been autistic and just really nervous about interacting with other people. I am agreed that they seem like neurotypicals who are uncomfortable when faced with someone different. Hopefully that player didn't give up on D&D, and finds a game that likes quirky players.
a simple "hey, what r u doing here? it is dangerous! join us to the town!" from the players and the entire thing would be done, but putting the responsibility to integrate your character into the story on your GM is something I can understand why you'd get some side eyes
@@c00KieDuderoo if the player is new, and mostly knows D&D from podcasts, it's a bit more understandable to me. On podcasts the DM is often the host and takes on the role of integrating the new characters / players, at least publicly.
For the "You have to act faster" story I don't see the immaturity there at all. They discussed the issue with the DM and when that didn't get the message across they made a point. Nothing there is immature.
Yeah, the DM was being petty and trying to force his combat, possibly causing a TPK. The only other response would have been to drop the campaign, so in this case, it was petty in return, but if the GM is going to try and prevent the players from using their abilities, he should have been prepared for the players to turn it back on him. That he dropped the game immediately after just shows he was trying to force an unfun game and got upset the tables got turned on him.
@@shadiafifi54 The fact that he had the gall to complain to the players on essentially the same argument that they had complained to him about shows very clearly that he did not mean any of his "faster reactions" argument. He just wanted to feel superior to them by being an unfair asshat. And, just like any other unfair asshat, he could not take what he was dishing out.
Are we too quick to just believe ANYTHING posted in a horror story? People are weird, but weird enough to just outright admit to jerking it to the DMs voice like that?
How do you become broken by not getting to play a certain clan??? Like sure i get being annoyed and saying yeah not interested in playing than. But broken???? Thats an extreme reaction.
React Quickly Story. I understand that some players do take far too long in combat to make up their minds on what to do. But this was just a blatant attempt to Nerf characters by the DM. If you are a DM and want or need to make combat move a little faster there are other ways. A simple way is to get a few of those 1 or 2 minute hourglasses or timers. At the start of a player's turn they turn over or start their timer (hourglass) and they have that long to say what they are doing or loose their turn. This method helps encourage players that they are on the clock and to have some kind of a plan already whenever possible.
The first story is confusing. What's a red flag? The DM setting up some rules and asking one thing of the player? A bigger red flag to me is a player wanting to play the edgelord or a furry and ignoring the one request the DM has (don't tell the party until I talk it over with them).
And then op doesn't talk to a friend who didn't even do anything for a MONTH because they didn't get to play a game? Yeah no, op is giving so many red flags there's probably a reason the DM didn't want him in.
edgelord you mine like the rest of the game it's vampire they are all some form of edgelord "furry" ok he was talking about wod werewolves aka the tough bruiser type character that op wanted to play
@@MajorMasonGaming I think the problem is he told the group he was playing a nosferatu (aka the most reclosable clan for their striking aperients) which is kind of really stupid
The halfling pulls the ring from the hearth and notices runes now glowing upon it.
"There is some sort of inscription, but my vision isn't as good as it used to be so I can not read it."
The wizard pulls out his magnifying glass and inspects the ring, noting a miniscule wall of text.
"The font is that of Micro Machines, and I shall not repeat in it's entirety here. In summary, it says that you take damage and it's now the ranger's turn, git gud."
About the Nosferatu story... it's pretty obvious that the Storyteller (GM, for the non-White Wolf players) was planning on making OP's life hell. For those who don't know, the Nosferatu are a cursed clan - not on the same level as Gargoyles, but still cursed. A Nosferatu is UGLY with a capital ugh, and can't shapeshift in any way (even a Mage's powers, otherwise literally able to rewrite reality, don't work on a Nosferatu's looks) and his face literally sends people screaming in panic. Seriously, they're borderline terrifying, so much that in the Vampire videogame (yes, it exists) they're forced to feed on RATS or sneak on their victims, because they can't approach anyone without causing mass hysteria. Suffice to say, their social life outside of the Vampire courts is a disaster, and even within the courts it's pretty much "court jester" level.
So, when OP actually showed enthusiasm at the idea of playing a Nosferatu he pulled the plug - it's not fun to mess with someone who doesn't suffer because of it.
Yes, I had to deal with this kind of GMs more than once, and I think it shows.
Sounds like OP's time playing would be either staying sideline to avoid panic, or getting punished for trying to do anything.
Which is to say: they'd be there for 2 sessions at best, and kicked for either being a problem or uninvolved.
"Suffice to say, their social life outside of the Vampire courts is a disaster"
If there's a Nosferatu Warren in the city, then that will usually be the main source of support and connections for the vampire. One benefit of this clan is that its members stick together with a strong cohesion.
Yeah I got the feeling that OP was going to be a patsy that gets picked on by ST and the rest of the group to either scare OP from gaming for good (classic gatekeeper behavior) along with being sidelined then booted. I hope OP finds a group that welcome them at some point
While I agree that playing Nosferatu is harder, you do have Obfuscate and with that Mask of a Thousand Faces for example. We had a a Vampire group with two Nosferatu and the player always had stuff to do. (Btw the Nosferatu npcs in Bloodlines are the best, especially Gary Golden).
Here is an image of how gross a nosferatu can be
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That 5th story was a beautiful example of Malicious Compliance. And I adore it. Good on those players for sticking it to a very unfair GM.
😮😁He read my story!!! Also that story was like over 16 years ago 😅, something I forgot to mention. I have ADHD so I get super excited over things I like, such as stuff like joining friends for games.
The 1st story about Noferatu? If so, you're better off. Your friend or the GM at least, is a complete douchebag.
ADHD CREW!
are you the wackoff guy?
@@robinmohamedally7587Vampire the Masquerade who was forced to play a Nosferatu.
@@robinmohamedally7587 ...they're clearly the curse of strahd person.
If somebody is giving me unsolicited advice multiple times when I'm playing a game, I tell them to play their character and not mine lol.
I love how Simba did a slow blink in the close-up... that means they love you! 🥰
Or comfortable/trust you, or not hunting you, etc etc
I always find it weird how so many cat owners have them as a second thought. Cats are so of the most loving and amazing pets, but some people just can't with them because cats aren't like dogs and communicate differently
As someone who grew up with micromachines and has the old Nintendo game of it, I absolutely love it! Even if I feel old as dirt remembering the stuff, even having one of those yellow carrying cases for them.
People really need to relearn the concept of shame. Like with that Dungeon Master voice story, if that guy just kept to himself and didn't proudly declare how he was polishing his flagpole to the DM's voice, people wouldn't think he's an absolute creep. I'm not saying we should shame everything, but just a little bit of shame wouldn't hurt, right?
As much as I feel that nobody has the right to tell anybody how to live, I think we do need to re-introduce some idea of shame over certain sexual things as a society. We’ve gone too far in the other direction.
@jordanwhite8718 if we do you better be OK with how far it goes its either we shame or we don't shame, people can't self control enough for there to be a middle ground
@@dream6562 And that right there is exactly the problem. We need to teach people how to have more self control. We should not be living in a society where that creep felt very comfortable, telling the dungeon master what he was doing in hopes that maybe she would become attracted to him? Unfortunately, the Internet has taught me things about sexual deviance that I didn’t really want to learn. And as much as I would rather people just be allowed to live and let live, unfortunately people can’t be trusted with that all the time.
@@jordanwhite8718 you just gotta pick a lane and stick to it
@@dream6562 your being ridiculous. Plenty of people feel plenty of shame. The WORLD is a middle lane. there is no yes/no question, and your insistance to the contrary is unrealistic.
Never be the dark mysterious character who is too dark and mysterious to be bothered to interact normally with others. People like that in real life are always creeps. Why would anything be different in game?
Here's a less horrible but odd story I've heard. A GM was running a game with a female cyclops NPC and a player was acting weird. GM peeked under the table and succeeded on the Wis save to keep a poker face. Player later spoke to them in private and deeply apologized for letting his fetish get the better of him. Player still stayed in the group since the incident never occurred again and apart from the incident the player was an okay guy.
Some people I swear were raised by wolves, except wolves are better team players and have better social skills.
The first GM sounds like he was just a jerk. I wouldn't say "Nosferatu only" is really a red flag. Nos in particular have some very specific factors that I would say make it justifiable to restrict players to only Nosferatu for certain games. To be fair, I have only played VtR, not VtM (2nd edition versus 1st edition) so Nos in VtM may have been different, but in VtR Nos are almost always disfigured and take social penalties, so it's more difficult for them to interact with people especially any humans. They also sometimes have underground secret cities where usually only Nos are allowed, so I could see it being very reasonable to restrict the PCs to only playing Nosferatu if the GM wants to run a game set entirely in a necropolis, for instance.
In Masquerade it was the same - a Nosferatu at his best looked like someone who survived a thirty car pileup... barely. And then ended in a tiger cage face first. And then at the hospital they used sulfuric acid rather than antiseptic.
Mechanically speaking, while other characters had looks from one dot upwards a Nosferatu had... MINUS ONE. Yes, they had negative one die.
The problem is that he was upset at the player revealing their clan - which means it wasn't a Nos-only game.
DM Voice Story. I was a sailor for a few years. I have heard about many different fetishes people have. But this is a new one for me. I have told others for years now that for everything out there there is at least one person on this planet that has a fetish for it. And the longer I live the more true that becomes.
Fair winds and following seas, fellow shipmate.
And monster energy drinks exacerbate them. They literally make you wanna do incest. Not even joking.
Player did what with DM's voice.....oh Lucky save us.
Idk why but that guy with the familiar in his bag seem to have this idea that the party is going to be like. "Who are you talking too?" "Oh it's just my familiar 'X'" "Can we see him?" 'Sure, come on out X" And then just follow the party which was not what happened at all.
This once kind of happened to me in real life.
This guy on the bus kept talking into his backpack, which he was wearing on his chest instead of his back.
For a moment I wondered if he was crazy or high, but the way he was speaking was like how someone talks to their pet so I wondered if he had a cat or something in the backpack.
It turned out to be a white rat! He took it out and let it sit on his shoulder the rest of the ride.
The whole way I was glancing around wondering if anyone else was seeing this!
The 'talk to the bag' concept COULD have worked, I think, if the guy had played it like Gollum - in other words, like he was talking, apparently to himself by a different name, about what was going on, not just about something irrelevant. Like, the players approach and he's like 'why look, Mr. Pixie-Face! It's a party of adventurers, yes it is! Do they know the way to town, I wonder? Shall I tell them, Mr. Pixie-Face; what do you think?' That would have given them an opening to say something like 'yes we do know the way', or 'no we don't', or whatever, and it could have gone from there. But, 20-20 hindsight, I guess.
Put that last story. I had a similar situation where a player tried to tell me what I should be doing my game, and I cut them loose right then and there. And as far as the no reaction GM story. Why did OP say they handled the situation immaturely? After all, when they messaged him with their concerns, and he ignored them. They could have just gotten rid of him at that moment. So by giving him a taste of his own medicine, he was giving opportunity to sit back, reflect and say. Oh, that's what I was doing to you guys.
Yes but it's also not your place to be putting other people in their place You're not that important just let him go let him reflect on it later if they come back being like apologetic or some shit then maybe give him a chance but it's just douchey to enact things in game instead of just being adults.
As for the bag guy. I think the DM should have talked to it and try to see where he wanted to take the bag think. The thing about roleplay. Sometimes you just got to make sure everyone is on the same page.
The bag guy seems to have decided he was the main character and everyone else were his npc party members
Talking to his bag guy, it's kind of an interesting quirk...it worked with Folly in Aeronaut's WIndlass who talked to a jar of crystals, but the guy from this story....it doesn't sound like he really thought it out.
The guy who pulls the too slow crap pisses me off. Granted, I would simply pretend that the damage didn't happen, and if he wants the damage to start counting, he has talk at normal human speed. If a D.M. can't speak like a normal person for any reason that is very clearly not a disability or other form of speech impediment, I will treat that D.M. like the child they are. And if they try to insult me by talking sloth slow, I will give them the perfect way to understand what speed they should speak at by flipping them off so long as they are talking too slow or too fast. Definitely not a good solution, since walking out will save you any further pain, assuming the D.M. is simply being petty.
Heh. Love how Mr. "I wanna see how the GM fixes this" got his response. He fixed this awkward first meeting - by getting rid of the problem! 🤣
Ah, the Micro Machines Guy. I loved those commercials back in the day.
And, oh boy, the "It's too complicated for you" argument. I'm in a pf2e campaign full of noobs where I play and alchemist with an oracle as my backup. On of our martials is a thaumaturge. And then there's the gunslinger. Our two most straightforward characters are the fighter and sorcerer. It's been fun so far.
He was also the voice of Blurr
I tried to use my reaction to like the video, but I didn't do so fast enough 😢
I caught the reference Doge. 😊 That dummy D.M. could dish it out, but couldn't take it. Typical.
guy really used his tictac to think instead of his brain.
Of course out of game issues need out of game solutions but I am a fan of using someone's own bs agaisnt them. Trying to speed past reaction abilities only to have it done back is brilliant. Shame they couldn't realize the error of their ways
My wife works in social services that help the public, and every now and then, they get a caller that likes to do this to female’s voices. They forward it to a guy if that happens, and they hang up immediately and try again later.
hi, doge! I have a flu rn, so I'm about to loop this while I sleep.
I thought at first the voice story was going to be the one that crit crab had made a video about, weird how such a thing can happen twice,
ua-cam.com/video/fSinfBjpnvM/v-deo.html link for the lazy
Happens way too often. I've heard AT LEAST TWO OTHER stories.
The DM in the first story was a dick. The second one: Wtf dude?😕
Maybe they should have asked the bag. Lol
Accusation Story. This sounds more like a misunderstanding than some one out to get OP. OP said that no one seemed surprised, upset, or shocked they were back. More than likely this was not a regular who complained and mistook whoever was DM'ing in the store that night for OP, who was not there. This has happened to me a few times before so I can see it happening here as well.
4:12 Dungeon Master Voice
Can relate.
Talking to My Bag
It is the player’s responsibility to take the plot carrot or the interaction.
If they don’t, that is on them.
Thanks, Lucky!
In case you guys find more perverted players... send them to me, could be fun.
React Quicker
Yeah. The DM did not want players to use reactions. I think he just wanted to kill PC’s.
When discussion fails, you either leave or get petty.
i have a simple tale short but gets the point across
i wanted to join a game as i was lacking dnd. see a post needing players and apply, over text tge dm seems cool and lets me in, i join the server mention im asian and get call a slur. leave before the finish what they were saying
Oh the Lucky! Such pretty eyes, and then - what else do we get - Simba in SIMBA-VISION!
I feel bad for the guy in the first story, I loved playing Nosferatu - the sneaky spies of the clans. The second story geesh!
And for the last story, I love the DM in that (no, not like the guy in the second story) in that they kept a strong backbone and advocated for their players against a bully.
Okay, people who solve problems creatively need to stop saying tht they were immature. Some people need correction or else they'll never understand what they're doing to other people. Maybe the next group GM that refused to allow reactions was a part of next benefitted from what the party in the fifth segment did.
The only other possible response would have been to just drop the game entirely, but I doubt Mr. Micromachines would have gotten the hint. Then again, I'm guessing he was doing this on purpose and just didn't want PC reaction mechanics to mess with his precious campaign - though note how he was perfectly willing to allow encounters to use reactions.
As someone who's been Dming VtM for 20 years + ...im so..sorry.
Not good at chatty character intro? I suggest tailing the party without their knowledge, rather than acting like an insane vagabond, and expecting DM to fix it.
Yes, this works. I played a mute (see: neck wound) Poisondusk Lizardfolk Ranger, carefully rebalanced for 5e, that spent the first two sessions tailing the party with really good stealth and occasional ranged firesupport. They did pick up on someone was helping them, but being really sneaky about it. Eventually i got caught. All part of my plan though. Barbarian wants to interrogate me, but Cleric notices the pretty gnarly throat scar, and points out its pointless, I can't speak. Distinctive fletching on my arrows gives me away though, so I'm in the party. Barb has trust issues until my prowess as a hunter is realized. Party has meat options in every meal then. Barb so happy!
"What did he expect to happen after that"
Its fetish mining, he was hoping they would be into it/flattered and couldn't take a hint early in the conversation, you'll see ppl do this in chats, posting hella NSFW stuff or borderline memes, they're looking for responses/reactions and usually start posting some weird shit if you don't check them early on it.
They need to go to actual fetish meets and NOT spring that on others, but that would require social skills.
There is no such thing as a bad class.
Roll the Dex Save, Shinji
Sometimes I enjoy listening too some one’s voice like Morgan freeman or William strife. But that’s more of a I’d fall asleep because of how calm and nice there voice’s are.
I remember the micromachines guy.
Hey, I got the Micromachines reference! 🙂
I'm so sick of weirdo dudes thinking that being unnecessarily forthcoming about their sexual fantasies to people as a way to....get them to like them(?) is okay and acceptable. Bro, touch grass and seek help.
The react quickly story is great
I think the reason Tom confessed was specifically to make the DM uncomfortable (similarly, this is why people cat call, they know it won't result in the target wanting to bang them, they just want to make said target uncomfortable). He also probably went on to brag about how he "triggered some snowflakes".
VTM is not for rookie roleplayers. Double and triple crossing other characters is a core feature of the game. As is keeping things on the DL. Maybe try VTM when you've built up some RP chops.
I really liked the micro machines guy comment. I rewatched the transformers animated movie a few months ago and he was in it as one of the autobots. Now I want to watch it again.
Love that movie, I collect the anniversary editions of it. As a kid though man did it traumatize me. Blur is the autobot he voiced.
@@GodOfPlague thanks, couldn’t remember the name of the character. Blur is very appropriate. I know what you mean. In the regular show they are standing like 5 feet apart and can’t hit anything while shooting but the movie was so different.
The only time I try to dissuade someone from picking something it’s a new player picking path of the berzerker barbarian in 5e and only cause I’ve seen how it drains the fun out of the game once they realize how debilitating exhaustion is when it starts to stack up.
If you explained _why_ Beserker Barb is hard to play and how Exhaustion is a complete dumpster fire of a mechanic, you did your job.
Ugh..there aren't any "bad" classes in PF2e. Sure, some are a bit better than others, but it's a minor thing. And it sounds like the Remaster will be even better.
I miss Micro Machines
holy shit is that a talking dog
I'm a rules lawyer, ngl, but I respect the DM's decision, cause at the end of the day they decide the rules, the only time its an issue, for me is when the dm allows so much homebrew that they don't even follow up on that the game becomes incredibly imbalanced and near unplayable.
nah if you're gonna do that fast talking to go oops you dont get mechanics of the game thats complete bs dm vs player mentality
Micro machines! Got it 😉
Hah, your cat close-ups are getting closer every time. Next video I expect the screen to be filled with just a cat's nose or eye. lol I wouldn't mind that though.
Super Simba Close up!
Hey dog, what's your take on Baldurs Gate 3 ?
i dont understand the first story. so why did he get kicked??? i dont get what the problem was
Tom sounds like a real coomer who needs to learn some self control
Dm voice story reminds me of that weird ass phone sex line from the old days. Where people would pay people to be nsfw on the phone. Good lord I cringe at the fact that I know that from the weird ass 2000 adult swim shows.
I know it from seeing the endless commercials for them after 10 or 11 PM. You couldn't watch an hour-long show without seeing _three_ of the same commercial, it seemed.
Tom beat it I don’t work with no predators they disgust me.
I think you could do with someone, and have your channel plugged or mixed into some other plays. I don't know.
I mean these stories can get quite thick, and then UA-cam just washes you off my homepage.
Some of these have really good lessons in them.
but why did the DM kick him?
The last DM is just annoying
That fast Talking dm? Whenever it would be an enemies Turn I would spam saying „Riposte“ or „Shield“
*sees super cringe and injects it into her vains*
must have more cringe for the hoard
CRINGE, FOR THE CRINGE GOD!
@@ShinyAvalon beards for the neckthtone!
@@Kierawolf - NECKS FOR THE NECKBEARD GOD!
"Player Feats and Actions are too OP, they need to be NERFed...."
Because the encounters can't be scaled to the Party DC....?
So the V:TM Game masters only rule for Joining their game was...Not being Excited about Joining the Game?
Um... well. Where do you even start with something like that?
Aside from the snide comment after the fact, I don't really think bag guy did anything wrong. C'moooooon! Let's be real, we all know he's a pc, we all know he's meant to join. "Let's continue, because that's what our characters would do." Shut up, interact with him! Do something! Pretend to be the bag and talk to him, barbarian punches the bag for ignoring them, cast animate object on the bag, nah, just walk away and make our friend feel bad for no reason.
That's "meta" reasoning, though. In more casual or light-hearted games, that would be how it works, yes...but some people prefer "deep immersion" games with more realistic interactions. I've mostly played in the lighthearted sort of game, so I get where you're coming from, but I also know not everyone games that way.
Here giving the doge a coin the one of the first comments
I think I know the person who used the bag. If it's who I think I am sure it is They are not a good person. The DM after In the story that follows It reminds me of a d m I had in a west march They would literally not allow If anything that did not fit their very strict concept. It was like fourth edition all over again. You can't ask what you can do You can only be told what you're allowed to do. Also, this guy always tried to hurt us with cursed armor but the only good benefits that came from it were given to his friends. Everyone else was just, oh no, now you have cursed armor forever. Now you're going to die in the next seven days Unless you spend a Hundred gold a day To pay for its upkeep. Because they were a dick
I slightly disagree with you on the talking to the bag story, Mr. Doge. We'll never know all the details but it seemed to have happened rather quick, and the character concept is a bit unusual but i think a little more effort or another chance would have been alright. idk it seems stuck up to me is all.
I might be projecting too much of myself into that story, but I feel like the player might have been autistic and just really nervous about interacting with other people. I am agreed that they seem like neurotypicals who are uncomfortable when faced with someone different. Hopefully that player didn't give up on D&D, and finds a game that likes quirky players.
a simple "hey, what r u doing here? it is dangerous! join us to the town!" from the players and the entire thing would be done, but putting the responsibility to integrate your character into the story on your GM is something I can understand why you'd get some side eyes
@@c00KieDuderoo if the player is new, and mostly knows D&D from podcasts, it's a bit more understandable to me. On podcasts the DM is often the host and takes on the role of integrating the new characters / players, at least publicly.
For the "You have to act faster" story I don't see the immaturity there at all. They discussed the issue with the DM and when that didn't get the message across they made a point. Nothing there is immature.
Yeah, the DM was being petty and trying to force his combat, possibly causing a TPK. The only other response would have been to drop the campaign, so in this case, it was petty in return, but if the GM is going to try and prevent the players from using their abilities, he should have been prepared for the players to turn it back on him. That he dropped the game immediately after just shows he was trying to force an unfun game and got upset the tables got turned on him.
@@shadiafifi54 The fact that he had the gall to complain to the players on essentially the same argument that they had complained to him about shows very clearly that he did not mean any of his "faster reactions" argument. He just wanted to feel superior to them by being an unfair asshat. And, just like any other unfair asshat, he could not take what he was dishing out.
Your kitties have way too high Charisma. I fail against their Charm every time
Are we too quick to just believe ANYTHING posted in a horror story? People are weird, but weird enough to just outright admit to jerking it to the DMs voice like that?
Yes. Some people ARE that weird.
Yeah. They are. Yep.
the DM of the first story sounds fat
How do you become broken by not getting to play a certain clan??? Like sure i get being annoyed and saying yeah not interested in playing than. But broken???? Thats an extreme reaction.
React Quickly Story. I understand that some players do take far too long in combat to make up their minds on what to do. But this was just a blatant attempt to Nerf characters by the DM.
If you are a DM and want or need to make combat move a little faster there are other ways. A simple way is to get a few of those 1 or 2 minute hourglasses or timers. At the start of a player's turn they turn over or start their timer (hourglass) and they have that long to say what they are doing or loose their turn. This method helps encourage players that they are on the clock and to have some kind of a plan already whenever possible.
That sounds awful.
Kitty
First
Sounds hot
Wth
The first story is confusing. What's a red flag? The DM setting up some rules and asking one thing of the player? A bigger red flag to me is a player wanting to play the edgelord or a furry and ignoring the one request the DM has (don't tell the party until I talk it over with them).
And then op doesn't talk to a friend who didn't even do anything for a MONTH because they didn't get to play a game? Yeah no, op is giving so many red flags there's probably a reason the DM didn't want him in.
edgelord you mine like the rest of the game it's vampire they are all some form of edgelord "furry" ok he was talking about wod werewolves aka the tough bruiser type character that op wanted to play
Why is it a problem for the player to tell his friend group that he is gonna be joining or not? Sounds like a sad excuse to gaslight and manipulate OP
@@MajorMasonGaming I think the problem is he told the group he was playing a nosferatu (aka the most reclosable clan for their striking aperients) which is kind of really stupid
Vampire the Masquerade is basically the underworld movies as ttrpg and the gangrel clan are werewolf vampires.
i s started a roll 20 account because of this channel but i think im too disabled to use it