Let's be honest: someone who joins a DnD group, more or less destroys it (I don't believe the photography story; it is more likely OP said something to the store owner than the moral hand of the universe gave OP the thumbs up in this way, and it is reddit, which is full of liars and insane people) and then walks away from the hobby entirely...that gives a lot of ammo to the pro-gate-keeping side of things.
@a4battles484 Airships in general are fine. However, the airship being referred to was filled with level 20 Mary Sue/Gary Stu DMPCs that apparently got together for regular orgies.
I once played twin foxgirl maids (two characters, but did pretty much everything together, because twins and also plot convenience) in a Spelljammer campaign. I can't help but feel somewhat called out by Story 1, despite the fact that in the campaign I was in, the twins weren't DMPCs or Mary-Sues, and there were no orgies or r**e dungeons involved.
It's already an insane asking price for a game. To then go over OP's head over a respectful decline and feed the higher ups with who knows how much slander. Then no one in the meeting willing to hear OP's side of the events is just unfair and a little resentfull.
Seriously, if they are so adamant about overpaying for a more often than not free activity, let the company shoulder the costs at least. Sounds to me like one of the higher ups made a deal with the brother to get a piece of the pie, and that's why they pushed so hard for it to happen despite the ridiculous price and obvious nepotism.
Yeah no... That one with the art studio struck a nerve. If the "higher ups" at my work place sat me down and scolded me like that over not wanting to play an unknown TTRPG with someone, I would probably snap at them and tell them to F off, and immediately start sending out job apps... Thats freaking ridiculous. If anything, those higher-ups were the ones harassing OP...
I can't think of any person that would pay 50 bucks a week, one month at a time (200 bucks) to play dnd, and be told if they miss the game they will be kicked and likely not get refunded. Id be that DMs worst nightmare if I paid that much for a game "for this price I expect dimension 20/critical roll levels of quality. And any cheap outs by the DM will immediately see me demanding a refund for that game as the DM clearly didn't dedicate the paid time to the game.
if the entire group is shitting on you for not liking some fetish or well any content they love but you don't,its time to eject and escape fast. Gotta read the table. if you don't fit. don't try to suck it up and deal with some horrible situation. Better to just wait and keep looking for a table that works for you.
I think OP of Story #3 better start looking for another art studio. With the kind of attitudes the higher ups have I suspect the business won't last much longer
You know I joined a campaign a few months back. DM made it pay to play (12.50 a session and she had like 10 players and was bi monthly) just before I got there. They had approached me to join, how ever I explained to her I'm on a strict budget and couldn't afford it. She still let me join and after I did, things began to get worse and worse. Players revealed other stuff she had done to them prior that now seemed, bizarre for example a player playing a character that was under age was forced into a marriage. Her DMNPC which the party didn't trust out right killed player. When the party began to plot to kill her, she got a level of upset that was scary. After that they did a terrible tournament arc which newer joining party members had no chance against players that had been stacking items for the 2 years prior when the game had originally started. After we voiced our concerns and gave her ideas on how to balance, she took it as we were angry, hating her and couldn't take any constructive criticism. 2 other players that I liked left and messaged me to tell me that pay to play thing started just before she snagged me and wanted to warn me, luckily I wasn't paying. I informed them of this, and we talked for several hours on the matter. I finally left the game by explaining I had to cut DnD time to look after my elderly mom. (Which is true) Left before it left any kind of trauma on me though thankfully.
Lol. I think I can explain the "paid TTRPG game at the Art Studio" story. The OP obviously stepped on the toes of a friend of somebody in charge, who the bosses were trying to hook up with a sweet gig paid for directly by the employees and not the company. I'd get the hell out of that job as soon as I possibly could.
OPs like that one in the second story piss me off and honestly don't get much sympathy from me anymore. Their posts are always like, "So I joined this game with a bunch of people that are complete weirdos. Here's a list of their atrocities, but Idk what to do? should I leave? :(" Just leave dummy.
I sincerely hope the poor OP dealing with the delusional Art studio directed the higher ups to the Reddit post. Hopefully the relentless mockery of every sane person who responded will show them just how stupid the DM was being.
Last Story - SOME of Fey's behavior could have been forgiven. Being poor at roleplay can be fine, not everyone needs to be an actor and not everyone needs some kind of tragic backstory. You could always just roleplay as a normal person who had a completely normal, average life before becoming an adventurer because realistically most people ARE. It'd be totally fine to have one normal dude in a party of adventurers. But the MOMENT i saw the word "Cheating" nope out immediately, you gotta come down on cheating like a ton of bricks, allowing it in any form ALWAYS goes bad.
01:30 This is the epitome of "and then everybody clapped" stories. Never understood why some people are like this, I assume it's because they lead boring lives
They think those types of stories are all fake to dupe less intelligent people(unlike their big brainness) and decide to make up their own but tend to goof up either with details(seeing as it's made-up) or in this case, fail to realize how infrequently those stories actually occur.
The "love confession" isn't a ttrpg horror story. I get the feeling the guy decided the DM's lesbian relationship was a challenge (apparently he didn't know about it till the game despite a 9 year 'friendship'). He probably had a "she just needs a man" line of thought. The RP flirting *may* have set it in motion, but I doubt he would have gone the flowers, chocolate, and declaration of love route (so corny, lol) if she had a boyfriend instead. He probably thought it would be an easy score if he went through the motions. Bottom line -- not a friend, just a long-term acquaintance. The "Paid Game" story...I'd want out of that artist's studio if there was any other alternative. The studio says the OP is disrespectful by...being disrespectful to the OP. They say the OP was harassing another artist's family by...harassing the OP. And no critiquing allowed in an ART studio? Several kinds of red flags there. The people running the art studio clearly aren't trained artists (critiquing is part of art training and artistic growth), and, the studio may have been getting a cut of the game payment due to their OTT reaction at OP's saying it was overpriced. Assuredly there's more trouble to come at that studio. The last story, I'd say the DM should ask him why he's even there if he hates the game so much, but no answer I can think of is worth keeping him around. Not even "you guys are my only friends" is good enough to let him stay. He's making everyone else miserable and is a jerk. Give him an ultimatum if you think you're being too hasty, but don't expect any positive attitude adjustment to last.
As guy who waited until it was too late when I confessed to my crush in middle and high school, I get it. But at the same time you can’t force that, especially if they’re already in a relationship. That’s when your crush turns into obsession.
Second story: Seems like OP doesn't fit the group, it would be hard to convince everybody else to change the way they play. Imo it would be better to just leave the group and find something else
Did op say what gender they are and I missed it? Because it OP is a girl, this sounds like "negging" behavior, a manipulation tactic where a person (usually by a guy to a girl) attacks another person's self esteem and self worth to make them more apt to dating the one doing the negging. Regardless they should be banned but I think op should still talk to them just to find out the reason for the behavior out of morbid curiosity.
With that $50 game, I have a feeling that the GM was going to cut the higher ups into some of the profits so that way no one could say anything. That's the only reason I can think of them just letting something like that slide.
@@ArawnNox I remember hearing the word brother throwing around, but it wasn't paying attention if it was a higher up. If that was the case that definitely smells of profit sharing and stuff.
Doge and kitties, happy 20k, you guys deserve it. And the Fang or Fae of the last story, yeah, GM is either going to sit him down or boot him. Only choice.
Don't explain to the player why you kicked them. It had already been said before you closed the laptop. If Fey doesn't get it, explain it. If Fey argues, say that your decision is final. If he wants a reason say that with him at the table NO body is having fun. Make a clean break and never have him in a game of your again. Share your experiences with only when asked. Making a clean break is the best policy in my opinion.
Aww; Alice was sucha. cute little kitten. Now she is a beautiful cat. Also hi, Simba. Story 1: That title... yikes. Ok. self-aggrandizement. Da heck? A dragon/ fox hybrid wearing maids clothes? Is this suppose to be a mix of Senko-san and Tohru? (shudder) AIRSHIP! RED ALERT! What the... what is up with this self-pity or self flagellation? Red flags. Story 2: That title, what? Why didn't DM ban the player after that!?!?! Leave OP! Just leave. (mashed eject button) Story 3: Jealousy, maybe? Story 4: I think I recall this one. This one is just bad. The updates make this worse. Leave the place OP. Story 5: That tile... what? Kick him.
(2:30) At first, you'd think the idea was clever. How are you suppose to spot the Dragon Princess if all the Dragon Maidens are dressed as Maids? Sure, it isn't fool proof, but if the reason for the dress was so the NPC Princess was tricking potential assassins, then sure. Why not? Buuuuuut...
D&D magic item pendant of the holy kittens uncommon when you would take physic damage expend 1 of the 9 charges to negate all damage charges return at a short rest (or a cat nap)
If I hosted a game for my peers (that is, anyone 20 or over), I would definitely consider asking for a bit of money. It would be worded like this, "If we're playing at my house, I'll be providing food, and anyone who wants to pitch in a couple bucks to offset that is welcome to, but it is by no means required of you."
Gah. That...Airship was disturbing weirdness. I only have one npc that's nonhuman, and that's a Pathfinder kitsune priest that the party-despite my efforts-decided to help build a small church for after saving him on the road. So far nothing weird's come of it outside of their initial intense interest, but I honestly didn't intend for him to survive.
@jordanrodrigues1279 Nah. Cringe-worthy it might be, but I stand by the decision that he was intended to drop dead as the initiation to the combat that was about to follow. But hey, they saved him, and it worked out-they enjoyed it immensely and made an ally. If anything it gave me even more to work with, and I've enjoyed it too. I've got no regrets if the party loved it and actually feel invested in the npc in question. Now there's a good chance they'll get his help at the end of the campaign due to all that they've helped him with.
I swear you can play DMpc's right if you just do this one neat trick. ... Don't take the spotlight and don't let them speak unless the players speak to them or maybe hint a path the pc's could take.
You can make NPCs that assist and accompany the party easily and well. DMPCs are just pointless. The DM does not need to make a PC the same as players which is a full fledged member of the party. If players gravitate towards an NPC and want them to accompany the party, roll with it.
What you are talking about are Hireling NPC's. They have been part of the game since BECMI. A DMPC is when the DM actually wants to be a character in the party as well as DM.
The part-dragon fox girl princess from the first story is copied from a pornographic comic where the main character is screwed by a dragon in front of an audience of a bunch of kobolds. Don't ask me how I know. The important thing is that the guy in the first story is even less creative and even more perverted than he seems, if that's even possible. To comment on the second story, it says in the PHB that half-orcs age at about the same rate as humans. Besides, the rate of aging isn't as important as the age of consent, which is about the same as the one for humans. For the third story, around half that price is high, but fair, and you should never pay in advance or worry about missing a game.
All the petite sweeties - a couple of Tabby cuties - thank you for that because that first story I really needed them. Now I'm off to take a shower with bleach - ick that guy was a sick twisto. As to the last story - if its someone who is disruptive - kick them from the group. They might not be a bad person (Narrator: They were) - but they just might not be a good fit. Send them on their way. So dude - goodbye and fare thee well. As always thanks Doge - you the Dog and deserve all your success.
one of these days i want to see dnd doge make an arg out of the cat clips, like, the cats are trying to usurp him from his throne using there "mighty words"
I understand the importance of communication and working out problems above table, but I don't see any value in trying to keep the player from the last story around. He's been a total dick from the beginning; what actual benefit is there to trying to keep him in the game. Just get rid of him.
I appreciate the advice for the last story is to just talk to the player about his behavior and give him chance to change. That's reasonable. Still, I would tell the GM that they are playing a game, and if someone is making that game not fun, it is your right to ask that person to leave. You are entitled to have fun at the game you run. That is the point of doing the hobby: to have a good time.
First story: anime fan here, been to seceral cons. Cosplay is not concent. And someone them were legaly kids...even if just 17, this was CREEEEEEEPEEEE. 2nd story: yeah, the whole group was just bad and needs therapy. 3rd: um, yeah we all have had that crush, but even my autistic socialy awkward self knows enough not to flirt with a friend's SO. 4TH STORY: i know of paid games. They usualy don't go above 20 bucks for a reason. My current game has a paid DM, 5 bucks per player, but most of thst goes to the store. My old store i used to frequant had also a table fee to keep the kights on (,unless you paid for other stuff, warhammer player so thst paid for the group sometimes). 5th story: why is he playing if he hates this style of game? I would ask him that and why he was being such a grouch. This isn't getting a degree and you have to take a class that you loath for the requirments. There are literaly hundreds of other games and game systems out there. Otherwise kick him. Hes not having fun. The other players' level of enjoyment go down thanks to him, and your're enjoyment is down the drain. Next time a player like them show up and does this ask is there a problem, and if they keep it up kick them.
Hey ah, just a note about the last story - the GM isn't changing alignment in PF2e - the 2.1 release is removing it from the game entirely. That's not homebrew. Anyhow, the GM should boot that guy - he's bringing down the whole table.
Pathfinder Story. I agree with Doge on this one. It seems this may have been the first time Fey has been confronted with their behavior. If so then they do deserve a chance to explain themselves and improve. If however, this is not the first time, then Fey has already shown they will not change and OP has no choice but to kick them. Also as Doge said, if after this second chance Fey makes no effort in changing, OP must kick them for the benefit of all others.
Kitties are fine, but Micro-Panthers are better!! As for a fox-girl crew all dressed like maids...I could see an entire thieves guild operating in plain sight like that. 17:00 - Okay, those higher-ups sound like complete and utter bass-turds. If they responded THAT badly to someone just giving an opinion, the OP needs to start looking for somewhere else to work.
The art studio one is bothering me. I've never heard of an art studio out right forbidding critiques, and the response from op's supervisor is odd as well. I don't know if the op is being entirely honest here, but if they are then I'd look for work at a different studio asap.
I mean, I can understand not being overly mean when critiquing, like Gordon Ramsey. But no critique whatsoever? As an art studio that what I assume sells art/commissions there has to be some standard.
Before you get excited about Fey "liking dogs", find out if he's really means is that "he likes them roasted or BBQed". :-) Smiley included for the humour impaired.
I played DnD with a guy that got mad anytime he took damage, but we never lost a battle..why? Well because i was a strict healing tiefling cleric. No one trusts a healer -.-
Ya know, Demon Slayer had a guy with a ninja harem. Except DS had plot. And characterization. And the guy wasn't single-handedly ending encounters. And wasn't a creep.
Let's do a little math... $300 / (4 hours play time, 4 hours prep. time, 8 hours world-building time) = $18.75 an hour. Or look at it another way, $50 / 4 hours entertainment is $12.50 per hour. Neither amount looks unreasonable. Now whether you want to play with a "professional" DM or not is completely up to you (I've never done so and have no intention to), but the numbers presented here are reasonable.
Ok, Robot Furry story... Don't leave the game. Imply the rock and rid the world this shit. For the betterment of furries too, a lot of them aren't like that.
Barbarians backstory Mom gave me a small trident to fight these things called vegetables and dad said he was called a formal fighting against the veg so they said make sure you eat all your veg on your plates
19:25 Is this place in California? Jokes aside yes. This place sounds like hell. You can not improove as an artist and they are trying to do this DnD stuff as a money making machine witouth knowing anything about TTRPGS. Just a disaster.
Last story, I would kick the mfer just for cheating tbh. I'd first warn them, but the 2nd or 3rd time will be the last. So disrespectful to the game and everyone at the table.
I don't really know what the guy from the last story is after? It sounds like he just doesn't like? Ttrpgs? Maybe he likes the combat but if he was in it for combat then I don't know what he would have against d20 systems as a whole? It sounds like he's not having fun because he doesn't seem to like *anything* about the activity and is actively making it worse for everyone else. As a pretty vocal non liker of d20 systems who still plays Pathfinder sometimes because I like my friends, I get playing because you like your friends more then you hate the system. But this sounds like it's a nightmare for everyone.
Ttrpg can be expensive if you want or it can be cheap. You can buy one book and a set of dice and you are good to go. Hell, people in prison play dnd and you know they got no money
So I'm ok with the idea of a paid GM, but I mean you have to bring it top level every game. I'm also ok with the host charging for snacks, use of space, and clean up .... But keep it reasonable.
So the dm in the first story was just being honest with the players when he called himself scum and irredeemable, even if he didnt realize it and was just being manipulative
I need a little info from anyone willing to share. I’m a new DM and a forever DM for my family. Due to my kids having as much interest playing DnD as they’re interested in cleaning up after themselves, it’s left me not having much fun nor learning how to be a decent DM. That said, I’m thinking of running a game, hopefully not ending in a unintentional horror story, but I don’t know where to look to see about getting a one shot started or where any of the OPs in these videos find DMs. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
These people in these stories always with their "Should I leave the group?" or "Should I kick him?" driving me insane because the answer to these questions is obvious and a screaming "YES!" is. You're standing in a burning house and you're going to die if you don't leave it, but you're asking the question "Should I go? It could get better, couldn't it?". With people like that, I wonder how they get on with their everyday lives. But they put their shoes on themselves, right? Or does someone have to do it for them? If you don't feel comfortable in a situation you have exactly two options: either leave the situation or change the situation. Translated, this means for an RPG group: If you feel uncomfortable in the group and it doesn't change after you speak to it, you MUST leave. Staying is not an option. Unless you are a dishonest liar who has no interest in finding solutions and only wants to farm pity and likes. I am a solution-oriented person and problem-oriented people drive me so incredibly crazy. "I have a problem" "Then solve the problem" "But I don't want to solve the problem" "Then you obviously don't have a problem and just want pity from me instead of a solution"
The paid game OP makes me curious if he's hiding something. I very much doubt any company would call it harassment if he just said he wasn't interested. Sounds like there's more going on and he's just purposely leaving things out to look better.
re: the robot furry story - my one attempt to try to take part in online TTRPG was in a server DMed by my friend, which had a similar vibe of posting hentai in the general chat and when I asked to maybe Not Post Hentai In General Chat, they told me they "don't do censorship". I ended up dropping out before either the VTM or Shadowrun campaign started.
It's true that "No D&D is better than bad D&D", but it's also true that "No friends to play D&D with is better than these friends".
Isn't it basically the same?
Let's be honest: someone who joins a DnD group, more or less destroys it (I don't believe the photography story; it is more likely OP said something to the store owner than the moral hand of the universe gave OP the thumbs up in this way, and it is reddit, which is full of liars and insane people) and then walks away from the hobby entirely...that gives a lot of ammo to the pro-gate-keeping side of things.
Hearing airship in a DnD horror story is the equivalent of hearing a voice in the night. Pure terror.
I reflexively shuddered as soon as Doge mentioned the word!
@@iank472 I kid you not, I did the exact same.
@@Spadeaswell it's the boogie man of the D&D world! We players and DMs check under our beds for freaking airships!
What's wrong with airships in DnD?
@a4battles484 Airships in general are fine. However, the airship being referred to was filled with level 20 Mary Sue/Gary Stu DMPCs that apparently got together for regular orgies.
"The dmpc whisked us away to their airship-"
Me: *ptsd*
shudder
*nam flashbacks*
Oh no
I once played twin foxgirl maids (two characters, but did pretty much everything together, because twins and also plot convenience) in a Spelljammer campaign. I can't help but feel somewhat called out by Story 1, despite the fact that in the campaign I was in, the twins weren't DMPCs or Mary-Sues, and there were no orgies or r**e dungeons involved.
For the last story, dude also cheats. That's auto-ban, no questions. Also being a rude d-bag constantly is just icing on the cake.
What OP in the fourth story needs to do is brush up on his resume and get a escape route from that company
It's already an insane asking price for a game. To then go over OP's head over a respectful decline and feed the higher ups with who knows how much slander. Then no one in the meeting willing to hear OP's side of the events is just unfair and a little resentfull.
No critiquing at an art studio... I can't wait to see the tragedy that rule produces.
Damn the politics of that studio is enough of a horror story in itself. I bet OP is going to be on the shit list for a long while over that
@@unluckyone1655 he should have said "fuck you guys I quit"
Seriously, if they are so adamant about overpaying for a more often than not free activity, let the company shoulder the costs at least. Sounds to me like one of the higher ups made a deal with the brother to get a piece of the pie, and that's why they pushed so hard for it to happen despite the ridiculous price and obvious nepotism.
Always love how Doge comes off and a very sophisticated doge with his wording and voice then as the story gets worse his reactions are gold lmao
*The DM didn't read my backstory, and assigned me a new one* That was your sign, right there, if the fox girl dragon maidens weren't the sign.
Yeah no... That one with the art studio struck a nerve. If the "higher ups" at my work place sat me down and scolded me like that over not wanting to play an unknown TTRPG with someone, I would probably snap at them and tell them to F off, and immediately start sending out job apps... Thats freaking ridiculous. If anything, those higher-ups were the ones harassing OP...
I can't think of any person that would pay 50 bucks a week, one month at a time (200 bucks) to play dnd, and be told if they miss the game they will be kicked and likely not get refunded.
Id be that DMs worst nightmare if I paid that much for a game "for this price I expect dimension 20/critical roll levels of quality. And any cheap outs by the DM will immediately see me demanding a refund for that game as the DM clearly didn't dedicate the paid time to the game.
if the entire group is shitting on you for not liking some fetish or well any content they love but you don't,its time to eject and escape fast. Gotta read the table. if you don't fit. don't try to suck it up and deal with some horrible situation. Better to just wait and keep looking for a table that works for you.
I think OP of Story #3 better start looking for another art studio. With the kind of attitudes the higher ups have I suspect the business won't last much longer
You know I joined a campaign a few months back. DM made it pay to play (12.50 a session and she had like 10 players and was bi monthly) just before I got there. They had approached me to join, how ever I explained to her I'm on a strict budget and couldn't afford it. She still let me join and after I did, things began to get worse and worse. Players revealed other stuff she had done to them prior that now seemed, bizarre for example a player playing a character that was under age was forced into a marriage. Her DMNPC which the party didn't trust out right killed player. When the party began to plot to kill her, she got a level of upset that was scary. After that they did a terrible tournament arc which newer joining party members had no chance against players that had been stacking items for the 2 years prior when the game had originally started. After we voiced our concerns and gave her ideas on how to balance, she took it as we were angry, hating her and couldn't take any constructive criticism. 2 other players that I liked left and messaged me to tell me that pay to play thing started just before she snagged me and wanted to warn me, luckily I wasn't paying. I informed them of this, and we talked for several hours on the matter. I finally left the game by explaining I had to cut DnD time to look after my elderly mom. (Which is true) Left before it left any kind of trauma on me though thankfully.
Lol. I think I can explain the "paid TTRPG game at the Art Studio" story. The OP obviously stepped on the toes of a friend of somebody in charge, who the bosses were trying to hook up with a sweet gig paid for directly by the employees and not the company. I'd get the hell out of that job as soon as I possibly could.
My quess with the Paid Game is they(the Art Studio) wants their cut of the 300$.
Yeah that does seem like the only rational explanation. I doubt they made all that fuzz just cause they respected ttrpgs so much.
OPs like that one in the second story piss me off and honestly don't get much sympathy from me anymore. Their posts are always like, "So I joined this game with a bunch of people that are complete weirdos. Here's a list of their atrocities, but Idk what to do? should I leave? :(" Just leave dummy.
I sincerely hope the poor OP dealing with the delusional Art studio directed the higher ups to the Reddit post. Hopefully the relentless mockery of every sane person who responded will show them just how stupid the DM was being.
Last Story - SOME of Fey's behavior could have been forgiven. Being poor at roleplay can be fine, not everyone needs to be an actor and not everyone needs some kind of tragic backstory. You could always just roleplay as a normal person who had a completely normal, average life before becoming an adventurer because realistically most people ARE. It'd be totally fine to have one normal dude in a party of adventurers. But the MOMENT i saw the word "Cheating" nope out immediately, you gotta come down on cheating like a ton of bricks, allowing it in any form ALWAYS goes bad.
Story 2: That ENTIRE group is evil and should be avoided like the plague.
Not evil, just very edgy and horny. I know, I can recognize that kinda person. OP definitely shouldn't be friends with them though.
01:30 This is the epitome of "and then everybody clapped" stories. Never understood why some people are like this, I assume it's because they lead boring lives
They desperately seek attention. One can have a boring life and not beg for attention.
They think those types of stories are all fake to dupe less intelligent people(unlike their big brainness) and decide to make up their own but tend to goof up either with details(seeing as it's made-up) or in this case, fail to realize how infrequently those stories actually occur.
So happy to see your channel growing man!
$25 a session makes sense if its 5hr a session min 😆 and like you know what you're getting into. The harassment against family claim is hilarious
The "love confession" isn't a ttrpg horror story. I get the feeling the guy decided the DM's lesbian relationship was a challenge (apparently he didn't know about it till the game despite a 9 year 'friendship'). He probably had a "she just needs a man" line of thought. The RP flirting *may* have set it in motion, but I doubt he would have gone the flowers, chocolate, and declaration of love route (so corny, lol) if she had a boyfriend instead. He probably thought it would be an easy score if he went through the motions. Bottom line -- not a friend, just a long-term acquaintance.
The "Paid Game" story...I'd want out of that artist's studio if there was any other alternative. The studio says the OP is disrespectful by...being disrespectful to the OP. They say the OP was harassing another artist's family by...harassing the OP. And no critiquing allowed in an ART studio? Several kinds of red flags there. The people running the art studio clearly aren't trained artists (critiquing is part of art training and artistic growth), and, the studio may have been getting a cut of the game payment due to their OTT reaction at OP's saying it was overpriced. Assuredly there's more trouble to come at that studio.
The last story, I'd say the DM should ask him why he's even there if he hates the game so much, but no answer I can think of is worth keeping him around. Not even "you guys are my only friends" is good enough to let him stay. He's making everyone else miserable and is a jerk. Give him an ultimatum if you think you're being too hasty, but don't expect any positive attitude adjustment to last.
Yeah that guy was a "nice guy" just pretending to be her friend in the hopes of getting into her pants. Definitely not a friend.
As guy who waited until it was too late when I confessed to my crush in middle and high school, I get it. But at the same time you can’t force that, especially if they’re already in a relationship. That’s when your crush turns into obsession.
as a kitsunemimi, that first story was pretty appalling
"the timing is bad"
OF COURSE IT'S BAD, SHE'S IN A RELATIONSHIP
WTF
The kissing black men thing caught me off guard, manager just looked at me confused why I burst out laughing at work
Grats on 20k, Doge! I'm so happy for you.
Second story: Seems like OP doesn't fit the group, it would be hard to convince everybody else to change the way they play. Imo it would be better to just leave the group and find something else
Sounds to me like that group would be better off with a F.A.T.A.L. dm
He should have left immediately after everyone went along with the pron incident
Thus "The Airship" became the "Flying Dutchman" of the DnD community.
Games with a DMPC are invariably a red flag surrounded by traffic cones, yellow tape, and road flares.
I've had dmpcs I as a player loved to have in the party but depends on the dm
In that last story, I feel like it's a lost cause. Especially with the op mentions that he cheated and I think that deserves an automatic kick.
Did op say what gender they are and I missed it? Because it OP is a girl, this sounds like "negging" behavior, a manipulation tactic where a person (usually by a guy to a girl) attacks another person's self esteem and self worth to make them more apt to dating the one doing the negging. Regardless they should be banned but I think op should still talk to them just to find out the reason for the behavior out of morbid curiosity.
With that $50 game, I have a feeling that the GM was going to cut the higher ups into some of the profits so that way no one could say anything. That's the only reason I can think of them just letting something like that slide.
Didnt OP say the GM was the brother of a higher up? The whole thing smells like a grift, to me.
@@ArawnNox I remember hearing the word brother throwing around, but it wasn't paying attention if it was a higher up. If that was the case that definitely smells of profit sharing and stuff.
Sounds like the studio is getting some of the money from the game
With the 4th story "Paid Game" was the brother trying to fleece the employees of their money?
Doge and kitties, happy 20k, you guys deserve it.
And the Fang or Fae of the last story, yeah, GM is either going to sit him down or boot him. Only choice.
Don't explain to the player why you kicked them. It had already been said before you closed the laptop. If Fey doesn't get it, explain it. If Fey argues, say that your decision is final. If he wants a reason say that with him at the table NO body is having fun. Make a clean break and never have him in a game of your again. Share your experiences with only when asked. Making a clean break is the best policy in my opinion.
Aww; Alice was sucha. cute little kitten. Now she is a beautiful cat. Also hi, Simba.
Story 1: That title... yikes.
Ok. self-aggrandizement.
Da heck? A dragon/ fox hybrid wearing maids clothes? Is this suppose to be a mix of Senko-san and Tohru? (shudder)
AIRSHIP! RED ALERT!
What the... what is up with this self-pity or self flagellation? Red flags.
Story 2: That title, what?
Why didn't DM ban the player after that!?!?!
Leave OP! Just leave. (mashed eject button)
Story 3: Jealousy, maybe?
Story 4: I think I recall this one. This one is just bad.
The updates make this worse. Leave the place OP.
Story 5: That tile... what?
Kick him.
(2:30) At first, you'd think the idea was clever. How are you suppose to spot the Dragon Princess if all the Dragon Maidens are dressed as Maids? Sure, it isn't fool proof, but if the reason for the dress was so the NPC Princess was tricking potential assassins, then sure. Why not? Buuuuuut...
Horror story involving an airship gives me Nam flashbacks
D&D magic item pendant of the holy kittens uncommon when you would take physic damage expend 1 of the 9 charges to negate all damage charges return at a short rest (or a cat nap)
Nightmare stories are either comprised of Rouges, Bards, Bad DMs or Furries. Or sometimes a combination of thr four.
I see a lot of paladins
@@DoctorSlop as a Paladin in my campaign, that hurts.
or airships
@@ajtheva6694 Unfortunately, there are too many lawful stupid paladins giving the rest of you a bad name.
@@marybdrake1472 thanks for reminding me
If I hosted a game for my peers (that is, anyone 20 or over), I would definitely consider asking for a bit of money. It would be worded like this, "If we're playing at my house, I'll be providing food, and anyone who wants to pitch in a couple bucks to offset that is welcome to, but it is by no means required of you."
Gah. That...Airship was disturbing weirdness. I only have one npc that's nonhuman, and that's a Pathfinder kitsune priest that the party-despite my efforts-decided to help build a small church for after saving him on the road.
So far nothing weird's come of it outside of their initial intense interest, but I honestly didn't intend for him to survive.
@jordanrodrigues1279 Nah. Cringe-worthy it might be, but I stand by the decision that he was intended to drop dead as the initiation to the combat that was about to follow.
But hey, they saved him, and it worked out-they enjoyed it immensely and made an ally. If anything it gave me even more to work with, and I've enjoyed it too. I've got no regrets if the party loved it and actually feel invested in the npc in question. Now there's a good chance they'll get his help at the end of the campaign due to all that they've helped him with.
I swear you can play DMpc's right if you just do this one neat trick.
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Don't take the spotlight and don't let them speak unless the players speak to them or maybe hint a path the pc's could take.
You can make NPCs that assist and accompany the party easily and well. DMPCs are just pointless. The DM does not need to make a PC the same as players which is a full fledged member of the party.
If players gravitate towards an NPC and want them to accompany the party, roll with it.
What you are talking about are Hireling NPC's. They have been part of the game since BECMI. A DMPC is when the DM actually wants to be a character in the party as well as DM.
Grats on the 20k subs!! You've earned it!
Congrats on 20k!
The part-dragon fox girl princess from the first story is copied from a pornographic comic where the main character is screwed by a dragon in front of an audience of a bunch of kobolds. Don't ask me how I know. The important thing is that the guy in the first story is even less creative and even more perverted than he seems, if that's even possible.
To comment on the second story, it says in the PHB that half-orcs age at about the same rate as humans. Besides, the rate of aging isn't as important as the age of consent, which is about the same as the one for humans.
For the third story, around half that price is high, but fair, and you should never pay in advance or worry about missing a game.
Congrats on 20k :)
Congratulations on getting 20K subscribers
0:37 I ain't gettin' up, so put the box away.
All the petite sweeties - a couple of Tabby cuties - thank you for that because that first story I really needed them. Now I'm off to take a shower with bleach - ick that guy was a sick twisto.
As to the last story - if its someone who is disruptive - kick them from the group. They might not be a bad person (Narrator: They were) - but they just might not be a good fit. Send them on their way. So dude - goodbye and fare thee well.
As always thanks Doge - you the Dog and deserve all your success.
Never pay a DM, precisely for this reason. As soon as money is involved its not for fun anymore.
That second story was so overly evil it's hard to even put it into words.
one of these days i want to see dnd doge make an arg out of the cat clips, like, the cats are trying to usurp him from his throne using there "mighty words"
OH NO, NOT THE AIRSHIP!
I understand the importance of communication and working out problems above table, but I don't see any value in trying to keep the player from the last story around. He's been a total dick from the beginning; what actual benefit is there to trying to keep him in the game. Just get rid of him.
I appreciate the advice for the last story is to just talk to the player about his behavior and give him chance to change. That's reasonable. Still, I would tell the GM that they are playing a game, and if someone is making that game not fun, it is your right to ask that person to leave. You are entitled to have fun at the game you run. That is the point of doing the hobby: to have a good time.
YAY D&D DOGE!! man I love your videos, makes my morning whenever you upload :D
First story: anime fan here, been to seceral cons. Cosplay is not concent. And someone them were legaly kids...even if just 17, this was CREEEEEEEPEEEE.
2nd story: yeah, the whole group was just bad and needs therapy.
3rd: um, yeah we all have had that crush, but even my autistic socialy awkward self knows enough not to flirt with a friend's SO.
4TH STORY: i know of paid games. They usualy don't go above 20 bucks for a reason. My current game has a paid DM, 5 bucks per player, but most of thst goes to the store. My old store i used to frequant had also a table fee to keep the kights on (,unless you paid for other stuff, warhammer player so thst paid for the group sometimes).
5th story: why is he playing if he hates this style of game? I would ask him that and why he was being such a grouch. This isn't getting a degree and you have to take a class that you loath for the requirments. There are literaly hundreds of other games and game systems out there. Otherwise kick him. Hes not having fun. The other players' level of enjoyment go down thanks to him, and your're enjoyment is down the drain. Next time a player like them show up and does this ask is there a problem, and if they keep it up kick them.
Hey ah, just a note about the last story - the GM isn't changing alignment in PF2e - the 2.1 release is removing it from the game entirely. That's not homebrew. Anyhow, the GM should boot that guy - he's bringing down the whole table.
Story 2 makes it sound like the entire rest of the table agreed to play an evil campaign and OP didn't like that.
Pathfinder Story. I agree with Doge on this one. It seems this may have been the first time Fey has been confronted with their behavior. If so then they do deserve a chance to explain themselves and improve. If however, this is not the first time, then Fey has already shown they will not change and OP has no choice but to kick them. Also as Doge said, if after this second chance Fey makes no effort in changing, OP must kick them for the benefit of all others.
Ahh a dm with a furry fetish, this is gonna be so swell.
No kitties necessary, let's just dive in head first
Kitties are fine, but Micro-Panthers are better!!
As for a fox-girl crew all dressed like maids...I could see an entire thieves guild operating in plain sight like that.
17:00 - Okay, those higher-ups sound like complete and utter bass-turds. If they responded THAT badly to someone just giving an opinion, the OP needs to start looking for somewhere else to work.
The art studio one is bothering me. I've never heard of an art studio out right forbidding critiques, and the response from op's supervisor is odd as well. I don't know if the op is being entirely honest here, but if they are then I'd look for work at a different studio asap.
I mean, I can understand not being overly mean when critiquing, like Gordon Ramsey. But no critique whatsoever? As an art studio that what I assume sells art/commissions there has to be some standard.
Before you get excited about Fey "liking dogs", find out if he's really means is that "he likes them roasted or BBQed". :-)
Smiley included for the humour impaired.
A art studio where everyone says: That's good 👍 👍
Second story got a good laugh out of me lol
I played DnD with a guy that got mad anytime he took damage, but we never lost a battle..why? Well because i was a strict healing tiefling cleric. No one trusts a healer -.-
Jesus, i did not expect a like vtuber dog model when yt recommended this video
I love the stories that save me from having to see cats
The second story is so based I wish all my games went like that
12:00 dude needs to find someone else, like Doge said Shit or get off the pot.
Ya know, Demon Slayer had a guy with a ninja harem. Except DS had plot. And characterization. And the guy wasn't single-handedly ending encounters. And wasn't a creep.
Let's do a little math... $300 / (4 hours play time, 4 hours prep. time, 8 hours world-building time) = $18.75 an hour.
Or look at it another way, $50 / 4 hours entertainment is $12.50 per hour.
Neither amount looks unreasonable.
Now whether you want to play with a "professional" DM or not is completely up to you (I've never done so and have no intention to), but the numbers presented here are reasonable.
As an Edgelord.... no. They dont sound like Edgelords. They sound like absolute psychopaths.
I would mock the hell out of these “high ups” remember they NEED you
NO! In second story, EVERYONE is terrible, yes even the OP!
Ok, Robot Furry story...
Don't leave the game. Imply the rock and rid the world this shit. For the betterment of furries too, a lot of them aren't like that.
Also, The $25 paid game story...
Also imply the rock. An art studio shouldn't be run like a Wal-Mart.
Barbarians backstory
Mom gave me a small trident to fight these things called vegetables and dad said he was called a formal fighting against the veg so they said make sure you eat all your veg on your plates
19:25 Is this place in California? Jokes aside yes. This place sounds like hell. You can not improove as an artist and they are trying to do this DnD stuff as a money making machine witouth knowing anything about TTRPGS. Just a disaster.
It's OK Quasar. Your players scare me too...
On behalf of foxgirl enjoyers, we do not claim this DM
Seconded!
*"sent me pictures of næked black men kissing"*
I shouldn't have laughed so hard at that 😭😭🥺
Last story, I would kick the mfer just for cheating tbh. I'd first warn them, but the 2nd or 3rd time will be the last. So disrespectful to the game and everyone at the table.
I don't really know what the guy from the last story is after? It sounds like he just doesn't like? Ttrpgs? Maybe he likes the combat but if he was in it for combat then I don't know what he would have against d20 systems as a whole? It sounds like he's not having fun because he doesn't seem to like *anything* about the activity and is actively making it worse for everyone else.
As a pretty vocal non liker of d20 systems who still plays Pathfinder sometimes because I like my friends, I get playing because you like your friends more then you hate the system. But this sounds like it's a nightmare for everyone.
Ttrpg can be expensive if you want or it can be cheap. You can buy one book and a set of dice and you are good to go. Hell, people in prison play dnd and you know they got no money
8:40 leave the campaign immediately duh
So I'm ok with the idea of a paid GM, but I mean you have to bring it top level every game. I'm also ok with the host charging for snacks, use of space, and clean up .... But keep it reasonable.
So the dm in the first story was just being honest with the players when he called himself scum and irredeemable, even if he didnt realize it and was just being manipulative
it took me a decade to admit to my best friend how i felt. so i have SOME sympathy,
I need a little info from anyone willing to share.
I’m a new DM and a forever DM for my family. Due to my kids having as much interest playing DnD as they’re interested in cleaning up after themselves, it’s left me not having much fun nor learning how to be a decent DM.
That said, I’m thinking of running a game, hopefully not ending in a unintentional horror story, but I don’t know where to look to see about getting a one shot started or where any of the OPs in these videos find DMs. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
These people in these stories always with their "Should I leave the group?" or "Should I kick him?" driving me insane because the answer to these questions is obvious and a screaming "YES!" is. You're standing in a burning house and you're going to die if you don't leave it, but you're asking the question "Should I go? It could get better, couldn't it?". With people like that, I wonder how they get on with their everyday lives. But they put their shoes on themselves, right? Or does someone have to do it for them? If you don't feel comfortable in a situation you have exactly two options: either leave the situation or change the situation. Translated, this means for an RPG group: If you feel uncomfortable in the group and it doesn't change after you speak to it, you MUST leave. Staying is not an option. Unless you are a dishonest liar who has no interest in finding solutions and only wants to farm pity and likes. I am a solution-oriented person and problem-oriented people drive me so incredibly crazy. "I have a problem" "Then solve the problem" "But I don't want to solve the problem" "Then you obviously don't have a problem and just want pity from me instead of a solution"
Story 2, just leave OP. There is no other solution.
I have to disagree Doge, kicking Fey is the only answer.
The paid game OP makes me curious if he's hiding something. I very much doubt any company would call it harassment if he just said he wasn't interested. Sounds like there's more going on and he's just purposely leaving things out to look better.
Or the other guy told the higher ups a whole load of bull. I've know that happen enough times.
No critiques at an art studio??? WHAT!?
I'm all for foxgirls, lol
re: the robot furry story - my one attempt to try to take part in online TTRPG was in a server DMed by my friend, which had a similar vibe of posting hentai in the general chat and when I asked to maybe Not Post Hentai In General Chat, they told me they "don't do censorship". I ended up dropping out before either the VTM or Shadowrun campaign started.
Second op was 100% the problem