This thing is a non-stop producer. For my water, Truckee River NV-CA, I keep a row filled with them in 16 with 2.8 and 3.3 mm beads in the box. I don't add the lead wire. Thanks for sharing Devin.
I have simplified the fly tying by using olive thread for the body, chartreuse thread for the ribbing and fl. orange for the thorax. So far, it has become one of my confidence flies. Thank you for the video.
Thanks for the video - great looking fly. I've noticed that the black "wingcase" is always put on top when the fly is in the vise. However, when the fly inverts while fishing this puts the black on the bottom - shouldn't we be putting it the other way around? I guess some real nymphs float upside down. Obviously still catch fish with it so that makes me wonder if it really even matters.
Hey Ed, thanks for the thoughtful response and great question! When a nymph is drifting through the water column it is inadvertently being turned over and over since it is at the mercy of the current. We’ve found that it’s less of a hassle to add the black wing case to the top of the fly while tying, and it doesn’t affect the fishability of the pattern. I hope that answers your question. Thanks!
@@GilbertRowley Thanks - makes sense that items in the current tumble and artificial flies do not just hang in a static position. Good argument for thin tippets. Can't wait to give this one a try!
@@edrose4583 You hit the nail on the head with the need for thin tippet. I don't think it has much to do with trout being line shy, but rather the effect the tippet has on ones drift. Have a great day!
He is using Hard as Hull head cement: www.tacticalflyfisher.com/fly-tying/hard-as-hull-1 Devin also has Tactical Fly Fisher UV Resin that doesn't require an additional material to prevent cloudiness. He is temporarily sold out but will have more in about a week. www.tacticalflyfisher.com/fly-tying/tactical-fly-fisher-uv-fly-resin
That's a great looking pattern! I've seen other guys tie something similar and not nearly as nice. But the thing I don't understand is that if the fly is supposed to ride hook-point up, why does everyone create the black polish wing pad on the bottom side?
Hi Gilbert,Is it on the nymph caught any grayling on the Pliva river. Because I know that on the Pliva work only 3-4 types of nymphs and those people who have, hide them like a snake legs :-) This nymph is not bad because it looks like the popular "cat" nymph. But because of grayling from Pliva seeking special presentation of these nymphs. Soon I make this perdigon and I'll try to Pliva, I'll let you score. All the best
Nice fly. However, if the fly travels upside down like a jig, wouldn't the wing case be on the opposite side you painted it on? I'm not trying to chirp. I'm actually curious.. very cool fly. And nice information Thank you. Colbee
Thanks for the honest question. Here is a blog post written by Devin that should clarify this: www.tacticalflyfisher.com/blog/wingcases-to-invert-or-not-to-invert-that-is-the-question I hope you find this helpful, thanks!
It could be used as either. It depends on a few things as outlined at 36:32 in the full film Modern Nymphing. Devin gives a very in-depth explanation. Have you had a chance to buy the digital download or DVD yet? It's very instructional and will shed light on most of your questions.
Slotted on this particular pattern. This inverts the fly like a jig hook and allows for a larger hook gap since the bead rides higher on the hook. Something Devin Olsen does on a lot of his flies. You can effectively tie this pattern with a countersunk bead, or on a jig hook with a slotted bead as well.
Well I did subscribe to the channel. I have a question, Why, if the fly will turn upside down with the bead cocked up like that is the wing case on the top of the fly? I would think it would be viewed by the fish better if the wing case were on the other side of the fly. Just asking. All the best to you and thanks for the guest tier. I have another channel to watch now. Also I just want to say tha tif someone is going to leave a thumbs down, it would be nice if they explained why. Helpful to the tier and other subscribers. Thanks. Sean
Completely agree. The wing case is on the wrong side if it's to fish hook point up and I thought that from the moment he applied the black nail polish. Why not just use a jig hook anyway.
+Sean Mooney thanks for the comment. I'll do a blog post at tacticalflyfisher.com/blog in the next few days about wingcase placement so keep your eye out.
+Cailean Moore and +Sean Mooney I'll be doing a blog post about the specific reasoning behind the wingcase placement in the next few days. Until then, I'll just say the fly fishes the same whether you put the wingcase on the top or bottom and is much easier to accomplish on top. I didn't use a jig hook because I like the hooking and holding properties of the Hanak 230 more than the many jig hooks I've tried previous to it.
The Pliva what a incredible river ... Possibly the must difficult & challenging river ive ever fished! Nice pattern 👌
Glad to hear you've had the opportunity to fish the Pliva!
This thing is a non-stop producer. For my water, Truckee River NV-CA, I keep a row filled with them in 16 with 2.8 and 3.3 mm beads in the box. I don't add the lead wire. Thanks for sharing Devin.
A staple in my box as well! Simple to tie and super effective!
I have simplified the fly tying by using olive thread for the body, chartreuse thread for the ribbing and fl. orange for the thorax. So far, it has become one of my confidence flies. Thank you for the video.
Great adaptation, and glad to hear it's producing for you! Thanks!
Thanks for the video - great looking fly. I've noticed that the black "wingcase" is always put on top when the fly is in the vise. However, when the fly inverts while fishing this puts the black on the bottom - shouldn't we be putting it the other way around? I guess some real nymphs float upside down. Obviously still catch fish with it so that makes me wonder if it really even matters.
Hey Ed, thanks for the thoughtful response and great question! When a nymph is drifting through the water column it is inadvertently being turned over and over since it is at the mercy of the current. We’ve found that it’s less of a hassle to add the black wing case to the top of the fly while tying, and it doesn’t affect the fishability of the pattern. I hope that answers your question. Thanks!
@@GilbertRowley Thanks - makes sense that items in the current tumble and artificial flies do not just hang in a static position. Good argument for thin tippets. Can't wait to give this one a try!
@@edrose4583 You hit the nail on the head with the need for thin tippet. I don't think it has much to do with trout being line shy, but rather the effect the tippet has on ones drift. Have a great day!
Thanks Devin, love it!
Do you fish with or know Lance Egan?
Yes and yes, he’s an amazing angler and a good friend.
Just ordered the materials a few days ago can't wait to tie a bunch of these, thanks
Awesome! Have fun tying Nate!
Awesome as always my friend
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice presentation, Will tie a few up for my upcoming trip to the Tongariro River. Thanks from down-under in NZ.
Thanks! I'm sure they will treat you well!
Im addicted to the Pliva Perdigon. It caught the more Fish than my other Nymphs in size 14/16 for some nice rainbows. Thanks for sharing :-)
So glad to hear it! This Spring and early Summer it was deadly for me as well.
Gilbert ... again another great video! Many thanks for making these videos!
Thanks, I'm glad you find them to be of value!
Gilbert Rowley n
Gosh that's a great looking nymph!! I just love this video!! That looks so slick with that clear resin around the whole body and thorax! New sub!
The link to the materials appears broken
what is the stuff called that he adds at the end to prevent clouding of the uv resin?
He is using Hard as Hull head cement: www.tacticalflyfisher.com/fly-tying/hard-as-hull-1
Devin also has Tactical Fly Fisher UV Resin that doesn't require an additional material to prevent cloudiness. He is temporarily sold out but will have more in about a week. www.tacticalflyfisher.com/fly-tying/tactical-fly-fisher-uv-fly-resin
This thing works! Thank you!
Glad you've found success with it!
That's a great looking pattern! I've seen other guys tie something similar and not nearly as nice. But the thing I don't understand is that if the fly is supposed to ride hook-point up, why does everyone create the black polish wing pad on the bottom side?
This may answer your question better than I can www.tacticalflyfisher.com/blog/wingcases-to-invert-or-not-to-invert-that-is-the-question
looks awesome! regards from Spain
Hi Gilbert,Is it on the nymph caught any grayling on the Pliva river. Because I know that on the Pliva work only 3-4 types of nymphs and those people who have, hide them like a snake legs :-) This nymph is not bad because it looks like the popular "cat" nymph. But because of grayling from Pliva seeking special presentation of these nymphs. Soon I make this perdigon and I'll try to Pliva, I'll let you score. All the best
Thanks, best of luck on the Pliva!
Nice fly. However, if the fly travels upside down like a jig, wouldn't the wing case be on the opposite side you painted it on?
I'm not trying to chirp. I'm actually curious..
very cool fly. And nice information
Thank you.
Colbee
Thanks for the honest question. Here is a blog post written by Devin that should clarify this: www.tacticalflyfisher.com/blog/wingcases-to-invert-or-not-to-invert-that-is-the-question
I hope you find this helpful, thanks!
Would this fly be used as a point fly or dropper?
It could be used as either. It depends on a few things as outlined at 36:32 in the full film Modern Nymphing. Devin gives a very in-depth explanation. Have you had a chance to buy the digital download or DVD yet? It's very instructional and will shed light on most of your questions.
Gilbert Rowley yes i have
Are you using slotted or countersunk beads?
Slotted on this particular pattern. This inverts the fly like a jig hook and allows for a larger hook gap since the bead rides higher on the hook. Something Devin Olsen does on a lot of his flies. You can effectively tie this pattern with a countersunk bead, or on a jig hook with a slotted bead as well.
7 people most likely dunk night crawlers.
I look forward to your videos👍
Haha, there will always be haters! Thanks so much for the support!
Well I did subscribe to the channel. I have a question, Why, if the fly will turn upside down with the bead cocked up like that is the wing case on the top of the fly? I would think it would be viewed by the fish better if the wing case were on the other side of the fly. Just asking. All the best to you and thanks for the guest tier. I have another channel to watch now. Also I just want to say tha tif someone is going to leave a thumbs down, it would be nice if they explained why. Helpful to the tier and other subscribers. Thanks. Sean
Completely agree. The wing case is on the wrong side if it's to fish hook point up and I thought that from the moment he applied the black nail polish. Why not just use a jig hook anyway.
+Sean Mooney thanks for the comment. I'll do a blog post at tacticalflyfisher.com/blog in the next few days about wingcase placement so keep your eye out.
+Cailean Moore Honestly the wing case isn't really that big of a deal. I don't even bother with wing cases for the most part anymore.
You are all wrong fly and bugs tumble far more the stay up right. He ties this just how it should be.
If this bug is to fish hook point up, you have applied the black nail polish for the wingcase to the wrong side.
+Cailean Moore and +Sean Mooney I'll be doing a blog post about the specific reasoning behind the wingcase placement in the next few days. Until then, I'll just say the fly fishes the same whether you put the wingcase on the top or bottom and is much easier to accomplish on top. I didn't use a jig hook because I like the hooking and holding properties of the Hanak 230 more than the many jig hooks I've tried previous to it.
Like it want some
Emm solo vine por vegetta 777