It is not a pacing problem. That is just a part of the issue. The style of storytelling changed from character driven to plot driven. It is very obvious when you realize that the two characters who get the most screen time have personality shifts and characters arcs the happen completely off screen. Jinx deciding she doesn't like explosions and Caitlyn's entire dictator arc are things that happen off screen. Even Caitlyn ending her dictator arc and Jinx deciding to help Piltover and rally Zaun is all off screen. It happens because the plot requires it. Not because of the decisions that characters made and the consequences that come from those decisions like in season 1.
You make a very good point. I don't see why any of these plot points couldn't have eventually worked if given the appropriate amount of time invested into the story beats. I would love to see what the original scripts would have looked like and what the creators had to leave on the cutting room floor.
In Season 1 it really felt like every episode had you on the edge of your seat, wondering what would happen. Season 2- barring a few episodes felt a bit meandering and unfocused. Had we kept the character-driven aspect of the show it would've worked better IMO.
I am of the opinion that the character shifts people complain about are signaled by details in the show, but not fleshed out enough so that you have to 1. catch the detail, and 2. make the logical step or jump that the details point to. That is why I am of the opinion it is a pacing problem, because with more time and development, these "nods and hints" would become fleshed out character arcs. Season one had the characters constantly flipflopping too, but the writing brought us along so it was clearer why they changed their stance.
What disappoints me is that the Zaun Piltover conflict was just left behind after ep. 4. Like its not even concrete whether or not they got their independence
I have a feeling that Zaun DIDN'T get their independence (Sevika joining the council). As someone who was deeply interested and connected to the Zaun/Piltover storyline, I am so disappointed in how it was handled. But, I understand that this was primarily a decision from the higher ups, not the writing team's decision.
@@njabulosithole1795 While Caitlyn gave up her seat on the Council to Sevika, representing House Kiramman, Zaun didn't get their independence. I'm okay with that being the case, because that would have been way too quick and easy. The Piltover & Zaun class conflict is still ongoing. While Sevika, a Zaunite, joining the Council is a step in the right direction, it'll take a long while before Piltover & Zaun consider themselves united but independent sister cities, like they do in the alternate universe that Ekko experienced.
I think there is such a thing as being too tragic. S1 was extremely tragic, but compelling. Yet 2 it's just . . . all tragic all over again for these two sisters, bringing back family just to destroy them again was such . . . tragic do over
im sad, that's all i can say. 3 years of hype for an unsatisfying conclusion. season 2 isn't awful, but the fact it could've been masterpiece level is what gets me. the wasted potential eats at me
them randomly throwing in the breaking the cycle of violence speech and then pretending like the solution was Jinx fake dying is ludicrous because Jinx is not the root cause of the cycle of violence. It's even worse because the show went out of it's way to show that Jinx has changed. She is just as much a victim of it as she is a perpetrator. Piltover's systemic oppression of Zaun is the root cause that perpetuates this cycle of violence, but season 2 just decides to drop this conflict. Making basically every wrapup and resolution feel so cheap and weird because they do so by pretending like this important lens of systemic oppression, that season 1 explored so carefully, just doesn't matter anymore. "walkign away" only works if EVERYONE MUTUALLY walks away. but we never see PIltover acknowledging the wrong they've done. Nothing has changed. Not even Caitlyn, she only makes amends with what she did cuz of Ambessa and Noxus' influence, nothing about the oppression of the undercity. And worst, Vi seems to have ZERO opinions on Zaun's treatment. There is barely any guilt or internal conflict about her becoming an enforcer. When she spirals in her pitfighter era, she only hallucinates Cait, which implies that she's just sad about her enforcer gf breaking up with her instead of, idk, the internal guilt of becoming an enforcer, gassing your own people??? Like Cait is not the most important thing in Vi's life and I have no reason to believe her choosing Cait over HER SISTER would bring Vi any happiness. Genuinely problematic messaging after s1 handled these issues so carefully and didn't feel like it was ever pushing you to believe one ideology. Just see the realistic ways everything plays out so you can form your own opinion. It's also silly that they have the whole "killing is a cycle" speech, only for the finale to be a huge epic battle. It felt super tone deaf after an already slightly tonally off season. The battle itself isn't even about the cycle of killing between Zaun and Piltover, it's about a foreign (literally, Noxus is a foreign nation interfering) instead of the internal systemic issues between the sister cities. And I'm supposed to believe the systemic issues are resolved or forgotten or that Piltover had a change of heart by giving Zaun ONE council seat? Cuz all THAT development happens offscreen.
Season 2 has almost no memorable lines. Remember the "Are we...still sisters?", "There's always a choice", "Is there anything so undoing as a daughter" - now I know EVERYONE knows who these lines belong to and how defining they are for the characters and their respective arcs.
I’m so grateful you posted this! I feel like it needed to be talked about. And like you said just because I’m criticizing the show doesn’t mean I don’t love it! I just wish they would’ve articulated things better like they did in season one.
1:37 my boy went from being a core part of the rune wars, to shurima and is now apart of ixtal?? imagine if jinx went from zaun to freljord just to end up in ionia
arcane season 2 is one of the most dramatic quality drop offs in the history of television, right up there with GoT seasons 6 through 8 - both containing meaningful peaks and highlight moments, but also staggering lows and incredibly sloppy and unsatisfying plot wrapups. the pacing is wildly rushed, character arcs are all over the place, motivations flip flop, and in issha season 2 features one of the most transparently manipulative non-characters I've ever seen in any fictional media.
I wish I could love this show. Season 1 was great, nothing groundbreaking as most people claim but alright. But I think I kinda hate the second season. Music montages every episode annoyed the hell out of me, plot progression was too quick. I fully dissociated when Viktor started creating immortal robots and Mel suddenly became a master magician. It felt like I was watching an abridged version. And that's why episode 7 was so good, it actually took it's time without rushing to a conclusion
yeah but for their budget it really hard too carry all the think they carry from ss1, must understand for them here. first time making film with huge budget(at least 170 million) for 14 hour of animation which every minutes cost a lot here, they have so many short sence that should long enough like 1 more act to told it fine well. but it still has a good parabel and litterly what it at it best the animation, the detail to every sence may call back previous eps here. for me ss2 alright still have a good 9/10 act 2 , 8.5/10 act 1, act3 8.5 not good at other to but still has great actions, foreshadow and ep7 every nailed ekko powder/jinx relationship which create the reason for ekko to finding jinx and he choose save his world than stuck in that happy universer, a great grow up for ekko who alway fight for present not future. the end kinda opened for other spin off may less sence for two sister can show how their feel about being close together, i have to rewatch 3 time to understance jinx reason for that choice also vi(vi may not get what vander told her" to save your family" kinda stuck when can't let vander go(i understance he is her most love father)may they will make it in other spinoff?), the hint jinx alive make me think jinx is try to leave thing behind and so she can leave the cycle of violent here, to seprate with her sister and go on her own journey. the cait vi les sence is reasonable when the storm is coming(they might death tomorow) so vi and cait trying to raise beliving eachother, also vi dont clearly know how jinx felt think that she may leave piltover and zaun( she said" so you don't leave " when help jinx) but if they can add like a sence she told cait about jinx and how she have to find her bf the battle though it may not lead them to jinx(money and inexperience issue so i can forgive this). which the story they make not bad but not delivery well by lacking and in hard situation. Mel already met blackrose member and know about ambessa are hiding about her power for a long time and excuse it by said" you weaked me!" in ss1 like she surprice about herself that may make she have a new purpose to purse here( may make us clear what mel will do in next spinoff) to know about her mother secret and fighting with black rose if them trying to make sth like war. kinda sad that they dont show it, make me felt they dont have enough time to connect many thing. for viktor he really change after ep 6 probaly by humanity thing that he know, he never reach it without remove the humanity. many character may have more time screen bc their character and model look cool, like the fish guy and loris here( he may death but may show a little more heroic act after his last breath so it may push vi to trying end it sooner. but after all for a first product, they really doing a great job to adaptation lol universe not just for lol fan but also non-lol fan which kinda hard by diffrent mind. ss1 was 10/10 and ss2 is 8.75( still got it good point and hoping they may have more time to fix it by the time).
Haha, I was so drunk watching the final act and I had it on 1.5× speed! I was curious about how it would end, but all that fantasy mumbo jumbo was killing me.
i hate to squash episode 7 for you, although i agree that this particular episode had better "flow." HOWEVER, i think that's one of the worst episodes. they use glitz and glamor to hide the story, which is that alien ekko hides who he is from a nice version of powder, and pretends to be her boyfriend from that universe. they suddenly start speaking french within the world for the first time in the show as lyrics during their dance essentially say, "you are my enemy, so i will lie to you and backstab you" in a very "romantic" and disgusting way. he kisses her while she thinks he is her boyfriend and does god knows what else before the real ekko shows up like "what's going on?" and he basically just says "hi! she's probably pregnant and heimerdinger just died, but nobody will care after this so i'm going to dip" it's aweful!
The point about episode 7 is spot on. I didn't like it at first because we had so little time left on the season and we were spending it entirely on an alternate reality. Looking back on it, it's one of the best episodes of the season, because at the end of the day the finale for me failed and rushed in so many ways that episode 7 wouldn't have fixed them even if it tried. Also I believe Jinx surviving ruins her last scenes for not any payoff. Like you mentioned, her leaving is just... empty? Ekko still cares about her. Hell she got talked out of dying by him. Vi is still there. Is she just gonna be a hermit for the rest of her life? Silco saying "walk away" is not literally walking away from the city. It's just about walking away from the violence. Plus she's literally outrunning a point blank explosion so that's a good thing to think about when watching any fight scene involving her. Isha's sacrifice feels so pointless too after episode 7.
First of all, this is a very balanced and well thought out review, thank you for putting some of our thoughts to words. I think you are spot on about pacing problems, but this is compounded by saturation issues as well. Think of season 1 as a 100 piece puzzle. You are given enough pieces already put together to figure out the gaps on your own, and fill them in. Season 2 does the same with a puzzle that is the exact same dimensions, but cut into much smaller pieces like a 1000 piece puzzle. Now the information you do have is much more saturated in the time it is given, and the gaps, while just as wide, are ten times as complex. It makes the self narrating parts of the story feel a bit too unfinished IMO. I don't think anything here is beyond repair though. If anyone from Riot Games is reading this, please take a page out of the Imagine Dragons music video made for Enemy. Some small feature videos (used as LoL universe promotional material) could be released to fill in a lot of these gaps. I know the writers have notes filled with possibilities to this story that never made it into the cut for the show. Use it, complete this masterpiece and keep us hooked for years to come.
Is it because they Left Jinx's Fate ambiguous,even though there is a little bit of foreshadowing Jinx survived and left on an airship,and have changed her official status from Alive to Unknown....rather presumably Alive?
The ending was too sad for my taste. Like imagine being Ekko, leaving a, for him, better world behind only to end up all alone. I mean literally only 4 of the 9 champions survived, not to include all the non-champions. Like a larger percentage of important characters survive in god damn Game of Thrones!!! I get killing off characters to avoid predictability BUT don't go fking overboard with it. First of all, what is the point of killing off characters in the final episodes anyway, to avoid predictability you pretty much have to do it early on anyway. And killing off so many make the entire fight feel pointless. Yes, they won, but at what cost... Most phyrric victory I've EVER seen in a show
bro it’s arcane season 2 writing. there’s no death, everyone survived, isha and ambessa were later ressurected by singed, jinx escaped (everybody’s talking about pink spark and a blimp in the end), caitlyn grew new eye, and warwick doesn’t give a heck about fall damage cause we’ve been shown he survived worse lol.
Arcane season 2 has the framework of a good show. You can just about see the vision, how characters were supposed to end makes sense, but it clearly didn't have the time to actually develop those moments.
I don't like Maddie's death because fans made her funny. So I blocked or muted them on Twitter and tried to defend the VA with her character (Welp , guess I'm too weak to comment)
Apparently episode 9 of season 2 was meant to be well over an hour long - but for crunch reasons I guess, significant portions were cut. I will admit, season 2 wasn't as satisfying as season 1.. but season 1 set the bar so damn high it'd be hard to replicate it.
Saying "I have nothing bad to say about this episode. Its pretty much perfect" when talking about the worst episode in a garbage fire of a season is wild, bro.
For real. I'm tired of people defending the shitty alternate universe. It's like someone who didn't watch arcane wrote fanfiction of it and they just animated it
@@Just_Kumoki True, I just skipped to the end. XD Thanks for keeping me honest, I watched the rest of the video. ^_^ I disagree with the video's take on Jinx's fake out death. If Vi knew Powder/Jinx was still alive and went off, Vi would try to find her, or continuously worry about her. Powder/Jinx knew this, and made the decision to "die" to everyone who knew her. This allows everyone, particularly Powder/Jinx and Vi, to move on with their lives, to "walk away" from the cycle and start anew. I know the person in the video wanted a more straight forward literal happy ending, but Arcane was never going to be that. It was always going to be a tragic ending, with subtle subtext, and a little bit of hope on top.
@@madpostman i get the writing choices here, but doesn’t that mean that vi never grows? she spends the whole show failing to move on from her sister, so imo it would’ve been more satisfying if she decided herself to let jinx go
@@notcha8080 The thing is, Vi not being able to let go is a core part of her character, it makes her who she is as an imperfect flawed human. Both her strength and weakness is that she's unwilling to let go of the people she loves. As AU Powder puts it, "Vi was strong because she was afraid. Her fear of losing us is what made her fight so hard." In most circumstances, this is a positive quality, it means she has a "good heart". It's why Powder, Vander, and Caitlyn love and admire her so much, this indominable human characteristic about her. However, in some circumstances, this is a negative quality, where she can't give up on the people she loves, even when doing so actively hurts her or makes her life worse. When the people she loves objectively has done terrible things (aka Jinx), or when there's nothing left of them to save (aka Vander). Jinx recognized this in the end, and made the decision to save and free Vi, literally and figuratively. With Vi not having fallen to her death, and no longer having to worry or take care of Jinx and Vander, she can now accept what has happened and move on with her own life, on her own terms (one example of this, being with Caitlyn).
@@madpostman i like your explanation, so thanks. i’m happy it works for a lot of ppl. i guess i just dont vibe with it. by the finale, i was tired of watching her suffer and fail. a character flaw is fine but she starts and ends the series with the same goal: reunite with her family. that’s flat development. amanda overton said vi would “choose herself” by settling down with caitlyn, but she doesnt make that choice, jinx does. meh at least she’s happy and alive
It is not a pacing problem. That is just a part of the issue. The style of storytelling changed from character driven to plot driven. It is very obvious when you realize that the two characters who get the most screen time have personality shifts and characters arcs the happen completely off screen. Jinx deciding she doesn't like explosions and Caitlyn's entire dictator arc are things that happen off screen. Even Caitlyn ending her dictator arc and Jinx deciding to help Piltover and rally Zaun is all off screen. It happens because the plot requires it. Not because of the decisions that characters made and the consequences that come from those decisions like in season 1.
You make a very good point. I don't see why any of these plot points couldn't have eventually worked if given the appropriate amount of time invested into the story beats. I would love to see what the original scripts would have looked like and what the creators had to leave on the cutting room floor.
In Season 1 it really felt like every episode had you on the edge of your seat, wondering what would happen. Season 2- barring a few episodes felt a bit meandering and unfocused.
Had we kept the character-driven aspect of the show it would've worked better IMO.
This explains it perfectly
They said they built the whole season around the big battle at the end between Piltover-Zaun and Viktor-Ambessa so... yeah...
I am of the opinion that the character shifts people complain about are signaled by details in the show, but not fleshed out enough so that you have to 1. catch the detail, and 2. make the logical step or jump that the details point to. That is why I am of the opinion it is a pacing problem, because with more time and development, these "nods and hints" would become fleshed out character arcs.
Season one had the characters constantly flipflopping too, but the writing brought us along so it was clearer why they changed their stance.
What disappoints me is that the Zaun Piltover conflict was just left behind after ep. 4. Like its not even concrete whether or not they got their independence
That's the point their story isn't over. There are signs that the status between the two has changed, but it's not like their unified and all happy.
It's b/c the Piltover & Zaun conflict is still ongoing, lol.
I have a feeling that Zaun DIDN'T get their independence (Sevika joining the council). As someone who was deeply interested and connected to the Zaun/Piltover storyline, I am so disappointed in how it was handled. But, I understand that this was primarily a decision from the higher ups, not the writing team's decision.
@@njabulosithole1795 While Caitlyn gave up her seat on the Council to Sevika, representing House Kiramman, Zaun didn't get their independence.
I'm okay with that being the case, because that would have been way too quick and easy. The Piltover & Zaun class conflict is still ongoing. While Sevika, a Zaunite, joining the Council is a step in the right direction, it'll take a long while before Piltover & Zaun consider themselves united but independent sister cities, like they do in the alternate universe that Ekko experienced.
I think there is such a thing as being too tragic. S1 was extremely tragic, but compelling. Yet 2 it's just . . . all tragic all over again for these two sisters, bringing back family just to destroy them again was such . . . tragic do over
im sad, that's all i can say. 3 years of hype for an unsatisfying conclusion. season 2 isn't awful, but the fact it could've been masterpiece level is what gets me. the wasted potential eats at me
them randomly throwing in the breaking the cycle of violence speech and then pretending like the solution was Jinx fake dying is ludicrous because Jinx is not the root cause of the cycle of violence. It's even worse because the show went out of it's way to show that Jinx has changed. She is just as much a victim of it as she is a perpetrator. Piltover's systemic oppression of Zaun is the root cause that perpetuates this cycle of violence, but season 2 just decides to drop this conflict. Making basically every wrapup and resolution feel so cheap and weird because they do so by pretending like this important lens of systemic oppression, that season 1 explored so carefully, just doesn't matter anymore. "walkign away" only works if EVERYONE MUTUALLY walks away.
but we never see PIltover acknowledging the wrong they've done. Nothing has changed. Not even Caitlyn, she only makes amends with what she did cuz of Ambessa and Noxus' influence, nothing about the oppression of the undercity. And worst, Vi seems to have ZERO opinions on Zaun's treatment. There is barely any guilt or internal conflict about her becoming an enforcer. When she spirals in her pitfighter era, she only hallucinates Cait, which implies that she's just sad about her enforcer gf breaking up with her instead of, idk, the internal guilt of becoming an enforcer, gassing your own people??? Like Cait is not the most important thing in Vi's life and I have no reason to believe her choosing Cait over HER SISTER would bring Vi any happiness. Genuinely problematic messaging after s1 handled these issues so carefully and didn't feel like it was ever pushing you to believe one ideology. Just see the realistic ways everything plays out so you can form your own opinion.
It's also silly that they have the whole "killing is a cycle" speech, only for the finale to be a huge epic battle. It felt super tone deaf after an already slightly tonally off season. The battle itself isn't even about the cycle of killing between Zaun and Piltover, it's about a foreign (literally, Noxus is a foreign nation interfering) instead of the internal systemic issues between the sister cities. And I'm supposed to believe the systemic issues are resolved or forgotten or that Piltover had a change of heart by giving Zaun ONE council seat? Cuz all THAT development happens offscreen.
Season 2 has almost no memorable lines.
Remember the "Are we...still sisters?", "There's always a choice", "Is there anything so undoing as a daughter" - now I know EVERYONE knows who these lines belong to and how defining they are for the characters and their respective arcs.
I’m so grateful you posted this! I feel like it needed to be talked about. And like you said just because I’m criticizing the show doesn’t mean I don’t love it! I just wish they would’ve articulated things better like they did in season one.
1:37 my boy went from being a core part of the rune wars, to shurima and is now apart of ixtal?? imagine if jinx went from zaun to freljord just to end up in ionia
arcane season 2 is one of the most dramatic quality drop offs in the history of television, right up there with GoT seasons 6 through 8 - both containing meaningful peaks and highlight moments, but also staggering lows and incredibly sloppy and unsatisfying plot wrapups. the pacing is wildly rushed, character arcs are all over the place, motivations flip flop, and in issha season 2 features one of the most transparently manipulative non-characters I've ever seen in any fictional media.
Disagree on Isha, she's absolutely a proper character.
@@prufanno she's not. Her character only ever does something when it relates to Jinx's development.
2 seasons was not enough to conclude the story
I wish I could love this show. Season 1 was great, nothing groundbreaking as most people claim but alright. But I think I kinda hate the second season. Music montages every episode annoyed the hell out of me, plot progression was too quick. I fully dissociated when Viktor started creating immortal robots and Mel suddenly became a master magician. It felt like I was watching an abridged version. And that's why episode 7 was so good, it actually took it's time without rushing to a conclusion
yeah but for their budget it really hard too carry all the think they carry from ss1, must understand for them here. first time making film with huge budget(at least 170 million) for 14 hour of animation which every minutes cost a lot here, they have so many short sence that should long enough like 1 more act to told it fine well. but it still has a good parabel and litterly what it at it best the animation, the detail to every sence may call back previous eps here. for me ss2 alright still have a good 9/10 act 2 , 8.5/10 act 1, act3 8.5 not good at other to but still has great actions, foreshadow and ep7 every nailed ekko powder/jinx relationship which create the reason for ekko to finding jinx and he choose save his world than stuck in that happy universer, a great grow up for ekko who alway fight for present not future. the end kinda opened for other spin off may less sence for two sister can show how their feel about being close together, i have to rewatch 3 time to understance jinx reason for that choice also vi(vi may not get what vander told her" to save your family" kinda stuck when can't let vander go(i understance he is her most love father)may they will make it in other spinoff?), the hint jinx alive make me think jinx is try to leave thing behind and so she can leave the cycle of violent here, to seprate with her sister and go on her own journey. the cait vi les sence is reasonable when the storm is coming(they might death tomorow) so vi and cait trying to raise beliving eachother, also vi dont clearly know how jinx felt think that she may leave piltover and zaun( she said" so you don't leave " when help jinx) but if they can add like a sence she told cait about jinx and how she have to find her bf the battle though it may not lead them to jinx(money and inexperience issue so i can forgive this). which the story they make not bad but not delivery well by lacking and in hard situation. Mel already met blackrose member and know about ambessa are hiding about her power for a long time and excuse it by said" you weaked me!" in ss1 like she surprice about herself that may make she have a new purpose to purse here( may make us clear what mel will do in next spinoff) to know about her mother secret and fighting with black rose if them trying to make sth like war. kinda sad that they dont show it, make me felt they dont have enough time to connect many thing. for viktor he really change after ep 6 probaly by humanity thing that he know, he never reach it without remove the humanity. many character may have more time screen bc their character and model look cool, like the fish guy and loris here( he may death but may show a little more heroic act after his last breath so it may push vi to trying end it sooner. but after all for a first product, they really doing a great job to adaptation lol universe not just for lol fan but also non-lol fan which kinda hard by diffrent mind. ss1 was 10/10 and ss2 is 8.75( still got it good point and hoping they may have more time to fix it by the time).
Haha, I was so drunk watching the final act and I had it on 1.5× speed! I was curious about how it would end, but all that fantasy mumbo jumbo was killing me.
i hate to squash episode 7 for you, although i agree that this particular episode had better "flow."
HOWEVER, i think that's one of the worst episodes. they use glitz and glamor to hide the story, which is that alien ekko hides who he is from a nice version of powder, and pretends to be her boyfriend from that universe. they suddenly start speaking french within the world for the first time in the show as lyrics during their dance essentially say, "you are my enemy, so i will lie to you and backstab you" in a very "romantic" and disgusting way. he kisses her while she thinks he is her boyfriend and does god knows what else before the real ekko shows up like "what's going on?" and he basically just says "hi! she's probably pregnant and heimerdinger just died, but nobody will care after this so i'm going to dip"
it's aweful!
Ngl made me feel happy hearing someone call season one just ok. I also never got it’s over hype it wasn’t like mind blowing or anything lol
The point about episode 7 is spot on. I didn't like it at first because we had so little time left on the season and we were spending it entirely on an alternate reality. Looking back on it, it's one of the best episodes of the season, because at the end of the day the finale for me failed and rushed in so many ways that episode 7 wouldn't have fixed them even if it tried.
Also I believe Jinx surviving ruins her last scenes for not any payoff. Like you mentioned, her leaving is just... empty? Ekko still cares about her. Hell she got talked out of dying by him. Vi is still there. Is she just gonna be a hermit for the rest of her life? Silco saying "walk away" is not literally walking away from the city. It's just about walking away from the violence. Plus she's literally outrunning a point blank explosion so that's a good thing to think about when watching any fight scene involving her. Isha's sacrifice feels so pointless too after episode 7.
First of all, this is a very balanced and well thought out review, thank you for putting some of our thoughts to words. I think you are spot on about pacing problems, but this is compounded by saturation issues as well. Think of season 1 as a 100 piece puzzle. You are given enough pieces already put together to figure out the gaps on your own, and fill them in. Season 2 does the same with a puzzle that is the exact same dimensions, but cut into much smaller pieces like a 1000 piece puzzle. Now the information you do have is much more saturated in the time it is given, and the gaps, while just as wide, are ten times as complex. It makes the self narrating parts of the story feel a bit too unfinished IMO.
I don't think anything here is beyond repair though. If anyone from Riot Games is reading this, please take a page out of the Imagine Dragons music video made for Enemy. Some small feature videos (used as LoL universe promotional material) could be released to fill in a lot of these gaps. I know the writers have notes filled with possibilities to this story that never made it into the cut for the show. Use it, complete this masterpiece and keep us hooked for years to come.
I wasn't disappointed at all by the ending, because I knew by episode 4 or 5 that it was going to suck. What a waste.
Silco's death was just brushed off. No one in the story mentioned who killed him, instead Jinx is made the hero of Zaun.
Nice video! S2 story is extremely inconclusive and disappointing for the show of this scale and budget.
Not to mention for a show that was so ridiculously well-set-up by S1.
They are indeed doing their 3rd huge retcon on league of legends lore
Is it because they Left Jinx's Fate ambiguous,even though there is a little bit of foreshadowing Jinx survived and left on an airship,and have changed her official status from Alive to Unknown....rather presumably Alive?
The ending was too sad for my taste. Like imagine being Ekko, leaving a, for him, better world behind only to end up all alone. I mean literally only 4 of the 9 champions survived, not to include all the non-champions. Like a larger percentage of important characters survive in god damn Game of Thrones!!!
I get killing off characters to avoid predictability BUT don't go fking overboard with it. First of all, what is the point of killing off characters in the final episodes anyway, to avoid predictability you pretty much have to do it early on anyway. And killing off so many make the entire fight feel pointless. Yes, they won, but at what cost...
Most phyrric victory I've EVER seen in a show
bro it’s arcane season 2 writing. there’s no death, everyone survived, isha and ambessa were later ressurected by singed, jinx escaped (everybody’s talking about pink spark and a blimp in the end), caitlyn grew new eye, and warwick doesn’t give a heck about fall damage cause we’ve been shown he survived worse lol.
Arcane season 2 has the framework of a good show. You can just about see the vision, how characters were supposed to end makes sense, but it clearly didn't have the time to actually develop those moments.
Tbh I felt like they just mixed the Naruto and Aot ending and made arcane
I don't like Maddie's death because fans made her funny. So I blocked or muted them on Twitter and tried to defend the VA with her character (Welp , guess I'm too weak to comment)
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Apparently episode 9 of season 2 was meant to be well over an hour long - but for crunch reasons I guess, significant portions were cut. I will admit, season 2 wasn't as satisfying as season 1.. but season 1 set the bar so damn high it'd be hard to replicate it.
Good video!
Saying "I have nothing bad to say about this episode. Its pretty much perfect" when talking about the worst episode in a garbage fire of a season is wild, bro.
For real. I'm tired of people defending the shitty alternate universe. It's like someone who didn't watch arcane wrote fanfiction of it and they just animated it
every day, i hate multiverse a bit more
To you
Jinx is still alive, lol. There's too many hints that she flew off on the blimp to start her own life.
lil bro didn't watch the full video before commenting lmao.
@@Just_Kumoki True, I just skipped to the end. XD
Thanks for keeping me honest, I watched the rest of the video. ^_^
I disagree with the video's take on Jinx's fake out death. If Vi knew Powder/Jinx was still alive and went off, Vi would try to find her, or continuously worry about her. Powder/Jinx knew this, and made the decision to "die" to everyone who knew her. This allows everyone, particularly Powder/Jinx and Vi, to move on with their lives, to "walk away" from the cycle and start anew.
I know the person in the video wanted a more straight forward literal happy ending, but Arcane was never going to be that. It was always going to be a tragic ending, with subtle subtext, and a little bit of hope on top.
@@madpostman i get the writing choices here, but doesn’t that mean that vi never grows? she spends the whole show failing to move on from her sister, so imo it would’ve been more satisfying if she decided herself to let jinx go
@@notcha8080 The thing is, Vi not being able to let go is a core part of her character, it makes her who she is as an imperfect flawed human. Both her strength and weakness is that she's unwilling to let go of the people she loves. As AU Powder puts it, "Vi was strong because she was afraid. Her fear of losing us is what made her fight so hard."
In most circumstances, this is a positive quality, it means she has a "good heart". It's why Powder, Vander, and Caitlyn love and admire her so much, this indominable human characteristic about her.
However, in some circumstances, this is a negative quality, where she can't give up on the people she loves, even when doing so actively hurts her or makes her life worse. When the people she loves objectively has done terrible things (aka Jinx), or when there's nothing left of them to save (aka Vander).
Jinx recognized this in the end, and made the decision to save and free Vi, literally and figuratively. With Vi not having fallen to her death, and no longer having to worry or take care of Jinx and Vander, she can now accept what has happened and move on with her own life, on her own terms (one example of this, being with Caitlyn).
@@madpostman i like your explanation, so thanks. i’m happy it works for a lot of ppl. i guess i just dont vibe with it. by the finale, i was tired of watching her suffer and fail. a character flaw is fine but she starts and ends the series with the same goal: reunite with her family. that’s flat development. amanda overton said vi would “choose herself” by settling down with caitlyn, but she doesnt make that choice, jinx does. meh at least she’s happy and alive