Review Demo - Mooer Ocean Machine
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
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A philosophical gear question: Are stompboxes musical instruments?
In one sense, duh-they’re devices that help us make music. But some effects simply get clicked on when you desire a particular color, while others reward practice and creativity with fresh sounds and surprises. Mooer’s Ocean Machine is definitely on the “play me like an instrument!” end of the spectrum.
The Ocean Machine is a collaboration between guitarist/bandleader Devin Townsend and China’s Mooer company. It’s a “four-effects-in-one” box, combining reverb, two independent delays, and a single-channel looper. The effects are digital, but an ambitious control scheme lets you pilot them in a hands-on, analog-like way. And “ocean” is the perfect metaphor for the watery soundscapes you can create and manipulate once you combine the four effects.
Mooer has crammed everything into a roughly 8" x 5" x 1.5" enclosure-not small, but quite space-efficient given what Ocean Machine can do. Gear marketers and product reviewers often use variations of the phrase “This one pedal could replace (insert number here) boxes on your pedalboard!” Sometimes it’s true, but rarely more so than here. The effects are genuinely independent, and you can use each one on its own in the conventional ways. But the real fun starts when you layer effects to conjure complex, ever-shifting sound collages.
Because it’s digital, Ocean Machine could have been smaller-but then you wouldn’t have the 16 knobs that give the pedal its tactile, analog-like feel. Nearly all the knobs have a single function, and with practice, you can tweak and mutate sounds almost instinctively. (In a promo video, creator Townsend says he plans to place the pedal on a stand and operate it by hand, which makes all the sense in the world.) The high-quality metal knobs are a nice plus for such a touch-intensive device.
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Why do all complain about the delay order B left A right. That's absolutely the right way. Signal flow in pedals usualy is in right, out left . See it as 3 pedals, from right to left (the standard order) Deay A to Delay B to Reverb.
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Even then you can switch the order of the effects, it's an insane pedal
I have one of these. It would bug the hell out of me if the delays were labeled left to right.
i think the delay order is just following the chain signal wich with pedals is normaly from right to left (your input is on the right of the pedal and the output is on the left side). so looking at your chain, delay A is the first you go in on the right and delay B is beside Delay A on its left following the chain. That's my idea
I like the way this man has an intuitive sense of matching sound with application. - - priceless talents for a music producer/sound engineer.
John Bohlinger is such an awesome guitarist!
0:28 ... "Hear that lonesome whippoorwill
... He sounds too blue to fly ... The midnight train is whining low ... I'm so lonesome I could cry" ~ didn't expect that . Cool demo and interesting device. Trying to find more info and demos ( maybe especially about the tape delay). I heard one clip with a nice 'drip' on the spring reverb so that's good.
So the reason to me A is on the right is because the signal flows into and out of the pedal from right to left. so it hits A first, then B, then verb.
I think that B "comes" before A because is the order of the signal. The signal first comes to A delay, then to B delay and then goes through the reverb.
In Devin's rig, its Delay A -> Reverb -> Delay B. I think you can arrange them in any order you want.
Esteban Cortes yeah you can arrange the two delays, the reverb, and the looper in any order you want.
Esteban Cortes I agree - even if you can actually switch the effect order around in this, it's logical, to me anyway, for the normal pedal order / signal right-to-left layout.
Great fairly quick demo & playing, as usual, and great sounds!
Esteban Cortes that's right
Colony of Elves lol Might have to steal that for our next album title.
Cool pedal, crazy sounds. I really just stopped in to listen to John play. He didn't disappoint, the beginning was amazing, wish he would write that stuff down... :-)
somebody already did that. It's "I'm so lonesome I could cry".
I feel like this pedal was designed by Devin to be very much an Ambient Drone style Delay/Reverb but its cool to see your spin on it!
I think Stomp boxes are musical instruments in the same sense that modular synths are.
You are right. Just because they don't make sounds of their own, they still shape it, and for any acoustic instrument, the shape and resulting amplification and resonance of the original sound created by it, is the biggest part of the sound. You don't need original Stradivarius strings to make a Strad sound good. It's the violin body that doesn't make sound in itself that is the actual instrument.
A lot of them CAN make sounds of their own through self-oscilation... I think stomps boxes + modular synths = even more awesome.
Duh lol
This pedal is a shoegazers dream!
Amazing and expressive playing! Not my instrument of choice or the kind of demos that I hear but your sound is amazing!
You are a badass bohlinger
Great playing as always. Awesome stuff.
Cool device, great sound capability. I wonder how this would work as a recording peripheral. I've used guitar based effects loops for vocals, drums, and keys rather than rack processors with good results. This unit would have a ton of possibilities.
Good to see you representing FFA with the shirt dude :)
I was raised in MT... so, yes. FFA.
Nice demo and guitar playing, appreciate the details offered about the Mooer, but maybe a bit too much talking, maybe trying too hard to sound "cool" and all that. Unfortunately, not much effort was spent demoing the looper, which is the part I most wanted to see more examples of how to use this. In any case, thanks for posting.
it looks like a lot of the reverbs are the same as the reverie (that I have and love) + a lot of the stuff on the donner ultimate delay X 2 + a looper - kinda cool -
😳 awesome demo. This pedal moved you
So how does this pedal sound NOT in an fx loop?
Hi John, nice review! I'm interested in this device but I don't know if it locks/syncs to an external master tempo Midi source in my case a BeatBuddy and if it does, could I bypass that Midi tempo to another device via the midi thru imput? I read the manual but did'nt find the answer. Can you tell me something about it? Thanks in advance.
I've got one of these and because I enjoy making ambient and other trippy guitar music I must admit that when I had it, I had high hopes and was really looking forward to using the Crystal, Galaxy, Rainbow, and the other "weirdo" delays on this pedal. Sadly though, I found them to be really disappointing and not very useable at all, which was a big shame.
It's not the end of the world though because in my opinion there are still at least 6 delays on each knob, and again, at least 6 of the reverbs are all pretty good quality and are more than useful. I also thought that the shimmer was quite poor as well and nowhere near as nice as what the Strymon's Big Sky.
I don't really want to spend £450 to get a Big Sky but I'd like to know if there's a pedal I could buy that makes all of those shimmery and ot other strange modulated kinds of sounds that I could maybe place before my Ocean Machine and get some sounds that are a bit nearer to the Big Sky's modulated effects, Premier Guitar do you know of any such pedal? Cheers. 👍
" I'm sorry, sir. You cant board now as the plane has taken off. Why didnt you board the BA plane again?'
'Well....'
Hey man those sci-fi sounds made me think I was tripping on acid. Hehe
1:04 Yes this is handy way to activate looper while standing, levitation! Or jump on with both feet or even better, be big foot... ;-) Cool pedal for the price.
OK, I wish You could just say what you can do with this unit simply said. Why don't these demo people realize how few guitar players out there that want to play infinite delays , weird crazy sounds, and over the top ambience. Look we're playing Blues, or rock, straight ahead guitar type music for the most part. I want a reverb that I can play a regular type song like The thrill is gone, or just a nice reverb like out of a Deluxe reverb amp, and some regular delays, normal delays, to play bar songs with some presets to change things up a bit. why do demo guys waste their time and everybody elses time showing all this crazy stuff almost nobody is going to use. just give us the main features. All I want is a unit that gives me stand alone reverb, and stand alone delay both in one pedal with presets, can this pedal do this, Sheesh !!!
yes
EHX better watch out. This is so good.
so its a delay reverb and chorus pedal
Yeah, I feel like you should know this already, but when it comes to guitar signal path, you read from right to left. 😉
tries to explain the sounds using words, but just lets the sounds do the talking ... "and the tone is just going to control the tone of the..." *pauses and plays* " yeah you see there?"
is there a dotted note delay?
Is it possible to sync?
Effects become more of an instrument when it alters the tone making the guitar's tone source less relevant to the final sound. Personally I love a big board where I use one or two pedals at a time rather than turning 5-6 on at once.
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Great demo!!!
85% talking... and you think it's a "great demo"?
12:34 "pretty handy if you're a tweaking person." lol I don't think anything other than speed would come handy if you're a tweaking person.
That's it 10 seconds on the Reverb there's no Hall Reverb or any type of spatial stereo Reverb that's it wow I don't think that's correct
it does have stereo I/O
Colony of elves dancing in there... line of month lol... I think I'll name my band Colony of Dancing Elves... lol how can you not love JB! Cool pedal but waaaay to much stuff on it for me. Just hear to listen to john play.
Made my day lol
It's BA to honour BA Barackus, obvs.
"Rainbow" - lmao!
Wow. Talk about studio quality control over ur sound kinda cool. complicated tho?
Well, like you said, it is studio quality. That usually doesn't equal simple/easy, but the results are often better.
This must be right up your alley John :-)
"colony of elves." LOL
Listen with headphones. I could not get rid of that distortion. It's digital done on the cheap.
You can't say if it's the pedal or the mixer /camera itself which was used for recording....
After an hour with this, you wouldn’t need to call the men in the white coats...I WOULD!! 😂 Poor 'ol Scotty's gone loopy again , folks...
Well ill connect that with a wawa pedal
It's B to A because of original Nintendo controllers. The folks at Mooer come from a fine NES stock and clearly know exactly what their doing.. Obviously.
PS.. you can modify the signal chain so it's B to A solely because of Contra.
Watch out for those dancin elves
is it true by pass?
It hasn't
This or Line 6?
this.
I get the A-B from typical guitar input side on the right. I actually wish my Boss ES-8 were numbered right to left (buttons are re-orderable but the printed numbers are there). Cool pedal..
MrF25or6to4 Yeah but I re-order so it only matters for manual mode. I get what you mean tho
Pretty Cool pedal... same old boring Guitar sound! Why not tune to 432hz? It’s a much a purer and natural sound and resonance...
Wearing makeup helps one accurately review effects by 1000%
when you want to here the shimmer and the guy doesnt turn it above 2 :/
where the shimmer? There, the shimmer.
Chinese read right to left in horizontal formatting. May explain "B" coming before "A".
that's not true unless you mean vertical formatting (纵排) and it's super rare (almost strictly reserved for parchment calligraphy). All the street signs, books (most), ads, menus, etc, all use left to right horizontal format (横排).
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Probably because that's the signal chain
- from right to left-
+Rafe Grigar yeah I'm not arguing that, to me that way makes sense since effect boards go from right to left. Just correcting the misinformation about Chinese language.
the best part of this video is the 54 Les Paul
Creatures of the night mwuhahaha
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This dude talks so much you can literally skip around looking for clips of playing and rarely find one.
you need to play more nintendo, then you will understand why B comes before A.
I listened to al lot of reviews but i don't like the algorithms which ofcourse determine the sound of this pedal. Not bad for the money but no crystal clear transparent sounds in my opinion. Overall it sounds to muddy for me. I stay sticked to my beautiful Kemper effects...
You clearly have no idea what this is for. Wait! Blues, of course. No, wait! Classic rock!
M D settle down. I'm one of those players who is Interested in soundscapes and ambient as well, but mostly I play chords and riffs. What, you don't want me to have it?
same old crap
Carlos Lozada fym crap
Carlos Lozada same old comment.
compared to WHAT exactly? the only thing that's crossed my mind is my DL4 but this seems like an evolved version of that so not the same ...
@@EnochDark I LOVE the DL 4 so much. If Line 6 would put a reverb on it AND 50 pre-set/user spaces I would buy it immediately. The only drawback I see on this Mooer , besides the questionable audio quality, is its 24 user slots. If they're going to go to the trouble of creating user RAM then why not make it at least 50? I can imagine tweaking this for years and needing more than 24.
I thought you could store more on a computer and load? Maybe not... Anyways I think I've finally decided against the OM after one finally popped up used at GC. I went to check it out and couldn't get the thing to power up after trying 3 different adapters. They were supposed to order the right one and call me but I never got a call. Considering the SD Silver Lake now. And yeah, gonna hang on to my DL4 (also MM4 and FM4) but I'm with you in not underestanding why they've never made updated versions instead of just making the big multi-stomp things.