Hope you found the BTS interesting! If you have questions about anything I might have missed, or want more detail, feel free to drop them here 👇 Cheers!
Thanks my man I appreciate that. I'll admit to finding the whole "m43 is dead" thing incredibly frustrating. Certain 'UA-camrs' (mentioning no names!) have a lot to answer for if you ask me. The entire argument is flawed. Whenever I come across it now, I counter it with a simple question; Give me one single example of a full frame camera, that can shoot internal 5.8K open gate up to 60p, 4K DCI up to 120p, and 240/300p in 1080p, all in 10 bit with 13+ stops of DR, but no recording limits, no cropping in on the censor between settings, no overheating, and all for just £2K. Just one example... Needless to say, they can't, because its the smaller sensor that makes that combination of features, at that price point, possible. And that's without even mentioning internal ProRes, external RAW output, the IBIS, and all the rest of it. It really is quite silly. They're different tools for different jobs. I could switch to full frame tomorrow if I wanted to. But I don't. So there you go.
@@RoweFilms Here's another argument, that you can throw in: and an IBIS systems, that doesn't have common issues with cracked IBIS hinges :) Panasonic has, in fairness, probably the best working IBIS out there, especially on the M43 cameras.
Incredible Tommy! 🙌 the original film and this BTS is absolute credit to your talent and knowledge and filmmaking ability and am yet to see anybody else do the gear this much justice! 🥊 🎸🤘
Great film and behind scenes video. May I ask which HDMI cable was used in your kit to get 4K@120 in 12Bit ProRes Raw on Ninja V+ ?, struggling to find suitable cable in UK
I really enjoyed watching this . ( Would there be an advantage using full frame anamorphic lenses with a speed booster or disadvantage.? ) Thanks for taking us through the production !
Thanks! I'm not sure how it would effect anamorphic glass or if it would cause anything weird to go on, as I haven't tried it or had a chance to look into it yet. As far as I can see, provided there's nothing protruding from the rear element of the lens, as there is with some anamorphic lenses, it should work fine.
Thank you 👍🏻 I’ve not seen any of the reported streaking whatsoever. Zero. And I’ve shot with the camera in all sorts of conditions. Plenty of contrasty backlighting in this piece and no sign of it whatsoever. So at this point, I’m genuinely starting to wonder what all the fuss is about, and what people are doing to be experiencing it. It’s honestly quite bizarre.
Great job & great info. I use the GH6 as well and its awesome to see what you create with it brother. Quick question- Where did you get that side handle/grip for the cage? My wooden handle can stick out a bit too much and yours looks ideal. Thanks and keep going!
Knew you were going for the Batman look XD This is a great BTS film, really insightful! My GH6 just arrived and I'm looking forward to getting started with it 👌 What's your gimbal of choice?
Cheers Ben nice one for spotting the inspo 😎 Hope you get on well with the 6! Currently the Ronin S. Still doing the job just fine, but I will probably upgrade it at some point soon
Amazing footage!! You boost my confidence to keep on using m43 system. I’m curious about wether you experienced the light streaking on the gh6. In your video, I notice that seems like you used a flare effect to hide the streak on a car headlights shot. Please forgive me if I’m guessing wrong.
Thanks. Have confidence in your gear. It’s amazing! No, I’ve not personally experienced the reported streaking, at all. So I really can’t comment on it when I’ve not seen it myself. The headlight streaks are anamorphic lens flares, from shooting with anamorphic lenses. As I say in this video, I’ve not used any overlays or assets in the piece. Everything you see in the film is as it was, captured totally in camera
I have a S1. I want to shoot in ProRes and ProRes RAW so the Ninja is what I have to get. I would love to edit in Final Cut but it seems like everyone is jumping ship and going to Davinci Resolve. You do awesome work in Final Cut. Do you think it’s a good NLE going forward into the future? Is it worth getting into Final Cut right now or do you think Final Cut is on its way out?
@@RoweFilmsthanks so much for your response! I think I will go with Final Cut. I’ve seen a couple of other really good film makers who are using it too. Again, great work and thank you!
No such thing when shooting ProRes RAW mate as it’s recording the linear sensor output. Picture profiles and gamma curves such as log are something that’s baked in by the camera, but that’s bypassed when shooting RAW.
@@RoweFilms ah...sorry...your shooting in RAW....which needs external SSD doesnt it? I will be filming in the wilderness....so cant afford battery power and storage that prores raw needs....so looking at MOV options eg. 5.7K 4:2:0 na deciding b/w VLOG/ CINED/ HLG etc :-)
Great stuff. Im relatively new to film making....but ive invested in gh6 and dual IS2 lens....for my wilderness filming. Being wilderness tho....using a ninja V is sorta inpractable for bulk and battery usage....so im gonna try just use prores 422/ 422 HQ. Any thoughts on quality difference b/w 422 and RAW? Cheers :)
Depends on what you mean by ‘quality’. Standard ProRes could well be enough for anyone, and pretty much any project. It depends what you need. Shooting RAW doesn’t necessarily mean better ‘quality’ or better results. PR RAW does have benefits however, with a lot more data and information under the hood. It has more latitude, and being 12 bit the image can be pushed further. Not to mention the benefit of being able to change ISO and WB in post.
All things considered I'm not sure that set up would allow you to produce quite the same visuals as the brand new GH6 shooting 12 bit ProRes RAW, but fair play if you're getting close. They're all tools at the end of the day and other things such as story and lighting matter more 👍
Yep. The old NTSC vs PAL thing is a hang up from times gone by, the days of analog TV. It really doesn’t matter anymore. Just be sure to use flicker free shutter speeds. Many Hollywood movies are shot in the UK, at 24/23.98 fps. It’s not unusual.
@@markshirley01 no, there’s shutter angles/speeds to use which won’t give flickering under artificial light. For example shooting at 24p in a 50hz country like the UK, you use 172.8 degrees instead of 180d. This will help you out to begin with but eventually you remember them all www.red.com/flicker-free-video
What kind of computer do you have that can handle the footage? I have a MBP 2015 that seriously needs an upgrade and just wondering what my best bet is as far as laptop right now as im on a bit of a budget but want to use my cam to its max abilities.
I'm no computer expert mate but I'm using an i9 iMac. Don't forget RAW footage is actually easier to work with as it's not compressed like other codecs, so far easier on the processor.
Hope you found the BTS interesting! If you have questions about anything I might have missed, or want more detail, feel free to drop them here 👇
Cheers!
Really nice, very detailled BTS thanks
I cannot believe you still do not have few milion subscribers. You are so talented.
Thanks man that’s very kind 😊
For the folks that tell me M4/3 is dead I always steer them to your work. Amazing work as always!
Thanks my man I appreciate that.
I'll admit to finding the whole "m43 is dead" thing incredibly frustrating. Certain 'UA-camrs' (mentioning no names!) have a lot to answer for if you ask me. The entire argument is flawed.
Whenever I come across it now, I counter it with a simple question;
Give me one single example of a full frame camera, that can shoot internal 5.8K open gate up to 60p, 4K DCI up to 120p, and 240/300p in 1080p, all in 10 bit with 13+ stops of DR, but no recording limits, no cropping in on the censor between settings, no overheating, and all for just £2K. Just one example...
Needless to say, they can't, because its the smaller sensor that makes that combination of features, at that price point, possible. And that's without even mentioning internal ProRes, external RAW output, the IBIS, and all the rest of it.
It really is quite silly. They're different tools for different jobs. I could switch to full frame tomorrow if I wanted to. But I don't. So there you go.
@@RoweFilms 100% Spot on. Excellent work once again. Looking forward to your next one!
@@RoweFilms Here's another argument, that you can throw in: and an IBIS systems, that doesn't have common issues with cracked IBIS hinges :) Panasonic has, in fairness, probably the best working IBIS out there, especially on the M43 cameras.
So much passion involved in this project! This is the mastery of doing job when you have solid foundation .
Thanks man. Yes a lot of work went into this little piece 👍🏻
Wonderful ! Thank you so much for this behind the scenes explanation.
No worries Dennis 👍🏻
Love this BTS man. So much work put into it but it was definitely worth it
Thanks very much Robert 👍
Incredible Tommy! 🙌 the original film and this BTS is absolute credit to your talent and knowledge and filmmaking ability and am yet to see anybody else do the gear this much justice! 🥊 🎸🤘
Thanks bro appreciate it 👍🏻
Thanks for the great insight into how you've achieved these results, you have really made the most of these lumix m43 camera systems.
No worries and thank you!
Rowe~ you created innsane , 💪
As an aspiring filmmaker, this video was AMAZING to see what M4/3 is capable of. I still have my GH5! Keep up the good work.
Great to hear. Thanks mate
It’s 🔥
Thanks mate!
Really amazing job. Congrats
Thanks a lot!
Love your workflow as I almost use the same :)
Liked your tips on Logic
Great work
Cheers Aaron!
That was a 🔥 (bts)
Thanks!
thanks Tommy, i bought a GH6 :)
Niceeeee
Let us know how you get on 👍🏻
Great film and behind scenes video. May I ask which HDMI cable was used in your kit to get 4K@120 in 12Bit ProRes Raw on Ninja V+ ?, struggling to find suitable cable in UK
Thanks. I use the Monoprice ultra slim cables. Available on Amazon
I really enjoyed watching this .
( Would there be an advantage using full frame anamorphic lenses with a speed booster or disadvantage.? )
Thanks for taking us through the production !
Thanks!
I'm not sure how it would effect anamorphic glass or if it would cause anything weird to go on, as I haven't tried it or had a chance to look into it yet. As far as I can see, provided there's nothing protruding from the rear element of the lens, as there is with some anamorphic lenses, it should work fine.
Great video! Really cool. I was wondering what your experience has been with sensor streaking while filming. Thanks!
Thank you 👍🏻
I’ve not seen any of the reported streaking whatsoever. Zero. And I’ve shot with the camera in all sorts of conditions. Plenty of contrasty backlighting in this piece and no sign of it whatsoever. So at this point, I’m genuinely starting to wonder what all the fuss is about, and what people are doing to be experiencing it. It’s honestly quite bizarre.
@@RoweFilms Thank you for your answer. Yeah definitely strange for sure. This helps me, think I’m going to get the GH6 now. Thanks!
@@thebigdshow nice one. I’m sure you will love it! Let us know how you get on 👍🏻
Micro thirds is dead .Tommy Rowe hold my beer !
😂
Don’t get me started on that one! 😂
@@RoweFilms ha ha ha
Great job & great info. I use the GH6 as well and its awesome to see what you create with it brother. Quick question- Where did you get that side handle/grip for the cage? My wooden handle can stick out a bit too much and yours looks ideal. Thanks and keep going!
Thanks mate. That one was SmallRig
SmallRig NATO Side Handle (Rubber) 1951
@@RoweFilms You the man! Thank you!
Great to explanations , do ? or how do you stabilize ProRes raw in fcpx ? The hand shots looks so clean ,
Thanks !
Not really necessary as the IBIS in the GH6 does all of the hard work!
Knew you were going for the Batman look XD
This is a great BTS film, really insightful! My GH6 just arrived and I'm looking forward to getting started with it 👌
What's your gimbal of choice?
Cheers Ben nice one for spotting the inspo 😎
Hope you get on well with the 6!
Currently the Ronin S. Still doing the job just fine, but I will probably upgrade it at some point soon
Good video but man youtube did you dirty by compressing the heck out of your footage, shame
Thanks mate. Yeh sucks doesn’t it
Amazing footage!! You boost my confidence to keep on using m43 system. I’m curious about wether you experienced the light streaking on the gh6. In your video, I notice that seems like you used a flare effect to hide the streak on a car headlights shot. Please forgive me if I’m guessing wrong.
Thanks. Have confidence in your gear. It’s amazing!
No, I’ve not personally experienced the reported streaking, at all. So I really can’t comment on it when I’ve not seen it myself.
The headlight streaks are anamorphic lens flares, from shooting with anamorphic lenses.
As I say in this video, I’ve not used any overlays or assets in the piece. Everything you see in the film is as it was, captured totally in camera
I have a S1. I want to shoot in ProRes and ProRes RAW so the Ninja is what I have to get. I would love to edit in Final Cut but it seems like everyone is jumping ship and going to Davinci Resolve. You do awesome work in Final Cut. Do you think it’s a good NLE going forward into the future? Is it worth getting into Final Cut right now or do you think Final Cut is on its way out?
I don't see Final Cut going anywhere mate. I'm sticking with it, especially now that I shoot mostly ProRes and PR RAW.
@@RoweFilmsthanks so much for your response! I think I will go with Final Cut. I’ve seen a couple of other really good film makers who are using it too. Again, great work and thank you!
@@Bas20hz very welcome bud
you're a source of inspiration! Did you use a speedboster on the GH6? Or did the 24mm become 48, 35 to 70 ect...?
Thanks bud! Only on the vintage lenses. I've got the Metabones FD to m43 speedbooster. The Sirui lenses were native m43 mount
great stuff mate. can I ask what photo style you used? VLOG? :-)
No such thing when shooting ProRes RAW mate as it’s recording the linear sensor output. Picture profiles and gamma curves such as log are something that’s baked in by the camera, but that’s bypassed when shooting RAW.
@@RoweFilms ah...sorry...your shooting in RAW....which needs external SSD doesnt it? I will be filming in the wilderness....so cant afford battery power and storage that prores raw needs....so looking at MOV options eg. 5.7K 4:2:0 na deciding b/w VLOG/ CINED/ HLG etc :-)
@@royaboat5315 yes via the atomos ninja recorders. If it helps, I only ever shoot VLog when not shooting raw
Great stuff. Im relatively new to film making....but ive invested in gh6 and dual IS2 lens....for my wilderness filming. Being wilderness tho....using a ninja V is sorta inpractable for bulk and battery usage....so im gonna try just use prores 422/ 422 HQ. Any thoughts on quality difference b/w 422 and RAW? Cheers :)
Depends on what you mean by ‘quality’. Standard ProRes could well be enough for anyone, and pretty much any project. It depends what you need. Shooting RAW doesn’t necessarily mean better ‘quality’ or better results. PR RAW does have benefits however, with a lot more data and information under the hood. It has more latitude, and being 12 bit the image can be pushed further. Not to mention the benefit of being able to change ISO and WB in post.
@@RoweFilms Thankyou :-)
Grrat stuff... Why you chosed the gh6?
Thanks man. Many reasons but for me it’s all about the look. Lumix for me is the most organic and filmic. Suits my style the most.
Can you record internally while recording externally to Prores RAW simultaneously?
I haven't tried it but yes I believe you can
Next Tutorial Your "Color Grading" Step by step 😍
I’m on it 👍🏻😊
Iam using lumix g85 with lumix 25mm 1.7 , Lieca 100-400 , lumix 14-140mm , 7artisans 7.5mm 2.0 can get this kind of results
All things considered I'm not sure that set up would allow you to produce quite the same visuals as the brand new GH6 shooting 12 bit ProRes RAW, but fair play if you're getting close. They're all tools at the end of the day and other things such as story and lighting matter more 👍
Thanks for your reply and iam very surprised about alexa ad which was captured with g7 , can I get that results in my g85
You shoot 120fps in the UK?
Yep. The old NTSC vs PAL thing is a hang up from times gone by, the days of analog TV.
It really doesn’t matter anymore. Just be sure to use flicker free shutter speeds.
Many Hollywood movies are shot in the UK, at 24/23.98 fps. It’s not unusual.
@@RoweFilms when you say 'flicker free shutter speeds' do you mean just crank the shutter up or down until the flicker goes.
@@markshirley01 no, there’s shutter angles/speeds to use which won’t give flickering under artificial light. For example shooting at 24p in a 50hz country like the UK, you use 172.8 degrees instead of 180d.
This will help you out to begin with but eventually you remember them all
www.red.com/flicker-free-video
What kind of computer do you have that can handle the footage? I have a MBP 2015 that seriously needs an upgrade and just wondering what my best bet is as far as laptop right now as im on a bit of a budget but want to use my cam to its max abilities.
I'm no computer expert mate but I'm using an i9 iMac. Don't forget RAW footage is actually easier to work with as it's not compressed like other codecs, so far easier on the processor.