As a German, I must admit that we in Germany neither understand Judaism nor, above all, do we consider anything but our own sensitivities on the subject. Essentially, we view Israel as Judaism and all Jews as Israelis or wanting to be Israelis (and do not even realize that in doing so, we are practically defining antisemitism).
@@nilskp Both. There is no natural, easy relationship, where people feel free to express themselves just so. There is only complete awkwardness around this subject. But what is happening over there is so f-ed up that more people can bring themselves to no longer care, because it's too much. From some of the people here you could get the idea that israel is superpopular in germany, but that is not really the case, current polls show that around 15-18% at best support what Israel does militarily.
@@juliandarch9278 Yes, there is also complacency since even though life is getting worse, things are declining and less affordable every year, there is still bread and circus and fundamentally closer and more personal problems that one can worry about before this - even if they disagree with the policies regarding israel completely. A similar dynamic happened with the war in afghanistan, it was always insanely unpopular in Germany, everybody believed it was bullshit and yet it happened.
Yes I agree and they all worship this wrong way like a cult! But there are Germans especially from the Millenials and younger who understand it quite well and give a shit about the false lived culture in Germany but we get cancelled! The Ampel made it just worse!
The German term for antisemitism czar is "Antisemitismus-Beauftragter". There is one on the federal level and there are others in several states. No special qualification is required for this job.
@@gretchenthedevil9209 german people went thru a de-nazification program and probably are still exposed to it, id say they have enough education on the topic.
I don't know how common these ideas are in germany itself, i'm american. but i know here in america, critical takes like this are extremely hard to come across because establishment media does not address these ideas so very few people understand it. as a result we are all feeling isolated in our resistance. i can only hope a lot of germans are exposed to these kinds of analyses
When it comes to this topic, Germans are not informed about anything. In fact information is suppressed. I have not met one person who knows about the nakba.
There is a historical aspect to this, but people love to overpsychologise this, they get to make historic connections and feel totally smart and knowledgeable about it. In practical reality though, this happens in germany the same way it happens in UK, US or AUS - by a combined effort of the state and media apparatus. Part of the founding mythology of the republic is also that ensuring Israel's safety is a raison d'état and people get that drilled into their head by public media. It's not much different from american media and political class repeating the "greatest ally" mantra.
6:15 Amazing how crazy Germany is decending into creating conditions for thoughtlessness making their citizens unable to differenciate between right/wrong, reality/fiction...
@@moodist1er There are none. I guess you're referring to Anglo-Saxon settler colonies in North America and Australia and Spanish and Portuguese colonies in South America.
Such an important voice! This is incredibly important context. I love her “reforesting” analogy in this clip and her “nature preserve” reference in another clip from this interview…
@Karen-ul9hd It wasn't regrettable enough back then? It wasn't only Jewish folk that suffered, also Poles and other Slaves, Communists, gay people and the disabled and other German vulnerables. The Nazis killed lots of their own vulnerable people. There were also Kapos, Jewish guards at concentration camps, some of whom were enthusiastically cruel.
@@user-ve7hn2dh8h have you seen pro palestian reallies in germany. They are openly antismetic. In Berlin jews are afraid to wear the Kippa because pro palestians will attack them in the spot. The Muslim community in bigger cities often have a huge antismetic Problem. And they do not confront it because it is easier to refer to german history and say we can not be antismetic we are not german.
Much of Love, appreciation and respect for Iris Hefets. I'm Syrian and I share with her the same human values. Thanks are always to Katie, one of my favorite UA-camrs/journalists ever.
On the one hand, Germany has plenty of experience with antisemitism and racism and imperialism in general. On the other hand, they clearly haven't learned anything from it, including the Holocaust.
@@wiwlarue4097 die tatsache dass wir in diesem jarhundert schon 2 mal "uneingeschränkte solidarität" mit kriegsverbrechern erklärt haben. Die tatsache das "never again" nicht nur für juden gelten sollte. Mein 20.000 leute kaff geht 3 mal in den Gaza streifen, dabei ist dort in den letzten monaten mehr munition gelandet als in dresden während des 2. weltkriegs. Isreal betreibt aggressive kolonialpolitik mit den illegalen siedlungen im westjordanland. ALLES davon. JEDER EINZELNE PUNKT den wir politisch decken, zeigt dass wir nichts gelernt haben
First of all congratulation to both of you ladies for all the work you do !!! It is monumental ! Second, as a Romanian born, by the end of the comunist era, I am horrified to witness the same tension in the societies, resulted from the induced fear into the entire society, being imposed to the civil societies at a global level ! How on earth did we end up here, it is beyond my understanding : lack of education + an induces agenda + lack of comun sense + lack of families and personal histories ! I have no clue but Russia Iran and China look far better than ''we the westerners '' Thank you for speaking up
Thanks for your Courage ❤ I am a woman,born in Berlin/Gernany with PALESTINIAN roots (Mum and Dad,both were born in Palestine). And it is a fight since the kindergarden. May Allah t free our Land from all these Demons...Ameen🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🤲🏽🤲🏽🤲🏽🤲🏽
@@Keepthepeacesharethelove I live in Austria. I know. Living expanses are much higher in Switzerland than here. Yet working in Switzerland will make you a lot of money. Especially if the job provides housing and some basic food. Which I think is done for phillipino nurses. They still don´t get paid well enough.
I have been living in Germany for over 30 years. I have also lived in other countries. I totally agree with a lot that Iris Hefets says. I currently know NOONE who wants to talk about Israel and the genocide it is committing. I am quite devastated by this. Most people are too afraid to speak out, afraid of being identified in their community, afraid of being considered different, afraid of being ostracized, generally just afraid of having an opinion!!!!!!!!!!! It is truly shocking. I am losing interest in contacting any of my German friends, who prefer to talk about anything, literally anythng else other than the genocide of Palestinians. You could use all the expressions like....burying their heads in the sand, sweeping it all under the carpet, turning a blind eye...etc etc. They do NOT understand what it is to really discuss, to disagree, to endure a bit of disharmony in a friendship, to formulate a strong opinon let alone stand up for it!!! I have examined all these things for years and years but now I have no interest in any more 'reasons', 'causes', 'circumstances', or 'explanations' for their behaviour. I dislike it, I don't respect it, I find it pathetic, I find it deeply disturbing, I find it totally unattractive and massively concerning. I don't believe that Germany has processed very much at all since it committed genocide against the jews and others in WW2. I don't even think they really understand what 'processing' means, or accepting the responsibility to ensure it never happens again. There may be a small number of German people who are an exception to the rule, like Iris Hefets. She is isolated in her own circle of therapists as she said. I applaud her courage, applaud her stand, applaud her risk-taking and applaud her commitment to humanity. She sounds like a great and valuable person to me, I wonder if she wants to meet for coffee?????? STAY CONNECTED TO YOUR HEARTS PEOPLE!!!💞
Same here! I live since 30 years in Germany. Most Germans are (regarding this item) weird and have no idea about judaism, they have a toxic link to Israel. They are not able to hear people like Iris. What a shame the path they took to work out their feeling of guilt. It doesn't help anybody, not even themselves.
She should have mentioned the so-called Staatsräson, that makes Germany support Israel unconditionally. It derives from the guilt, Germans have developed after WW2 and also kind of serves as an easy solution to make yourself believe, you are "the good one". As a therapist she describes that pretty accurate. The so-called Staatsräson is another step towards creating facts in this case. It's like a general rule for German policies. I don't know, if she's also an economist or historian (I'm not, to make that clear), but I'm confident that it's not (only) economical reasons that keep this going. She talks about Germany's unity with the United States in this case and I'd say that that's the actual reason. Germany was heavily influenced by US policies and political stands after WW2. I'd argue that this was primarily the case because of economical dependencies and that it later became a matter of security during the cold war, mixed with the (here comes the guilt again) certainty, that Germany would not be a military power again anytime soon, so of course they seek leadership in another superpower. I don't say, that all this is ok the way it is, but as a therapist she should know, that the development of values is quite complex and the cognitive dissonance that prevents us from making changes, is very strong. She also should have mentioned that there are many Germans, who are explicitly criticizing the Israeli government, are branded as antisemitic. That's also a reason, why many pedal back (there's the guilt again) in their opinion or silence themselves. The only way, I see substantial changes would be when more and more Jews would return to Germany and have a saying in politics and creating new values towards sensitive topics, which there unfortunately still are. I for myself am afraid, that this won't change anytime soon, but I'm confident, that it will change. But this will take generations. I've experienced the trauma in Jewish families, I've met in Israel, generations later, so I would bet the guilt won't just go away either. P.s.: the so-called "Juden in der AfD" are not taken serious by officials and not by the majority of citizens. Many of them are fraud, some in connection to waves of fake Russian jews, who came to Germany in the 90s by exploiting immigration policies that were meant to give Jews a home in Germany again.
Thank you Iris for your stance and strong moral compass. I'm a trauma therapist/clinical psychologist in Australia and have largely felt the same. None of our institutions and hardly any colleagues have said a thing. Such a moral and ethical failure
Thank you again, Katie, for inviting Iris Hefets for abother talk. I can subscribe to every single word she says. It´s so strange to see my country becoming openly fascist under a government led by the Social-Democratic party, while still pretending to be a Democratic state. I didn´t know about all those converted Christians though, who pretend to be Jews now (I can´t imagine them being religious in any sense, I think, that is simply some kind of "fashion" and also a good way to be able to participate in the crimes against humanity in Palestine without the fear of prosecution). But to be honest, I don´t wonder. Therefore I also want to thank Iris for all the informations, I can´t get from any German media.
"However, I didn't know about all the converted Christians who now claim to be Jews (I can't imagine them being religious in any way)" This is the first time I've heard this and I can't imagine it. There are certainly verifiable numbers for this?
@@linnyschlamm3310 Interestingly, even in my country in southeast asia, some of our people are allowed to convert to Judaism and move to Israel...they have to go through lenghty process to pass tho
I’m gonna go ahead and say, “Too soon” to the Germans on this one. They’re gonna need to give us at least a century before they wade out into any discourse on the subjects of genocides, ethnic cleansing, racial hatred, etc. The Germans need to just sit this one out.
This! Und, bitte, bitte, hört niemals auf die Deutschen daran zu erinnern, welche Rolle sie in diesem Genozid gespielt haben. Reibt es richtig in die Wunde! And please please, never stop reminding the Germans about the role they played in this genocide. Rub it right into the wound!
Germany and Austria in „Gleichschritt“ (doing the same politics, it does’nt matter which party is in power) without any doubt. The former leader of the Green Party is now the President of the Austrian Republic (Van der Bellen). And the actual Austrian Government (the right wing „People‘s Party“ in coalition with the Green Party) voted 3 times (twice in the UN general assembly and once in the EU) against a humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza. And Van der Bellen said publicly that the Austrian vote in the UN was a right decision…..disgusting, supporting the genocide.
I'm just an outsider so take my comment with a grain of salt. It seems like Jews or Judaism needs to rebel against their religion being used as a false cause for racist reasons.
There was never a mind to lose. The modern German state was founded by a war against France in 1871. And if there was a tiny bit of "mind", we lost it in 1914 when we destroyed Europe once and for all.
@@chrisko6439 that is cute. U mean when Britain and France objected to a rising new colonialist power in 2014 and when the US decided to object to strong new power that does not trade in dollars in the 1930s.
I've thought for a few years about why this is with Germany. I think it's the culture of conformity which comes from a mixture of their blend of Protestantism and militarism. I recommend Hans-Ulrich Wehler's book Imperial Germany. Funny thing is how nuanced and insightful their early 19th century philosophers were.
@@charliebarton You simply make that connection because you can. It fits your stereotypes and preconceived notions, and so seems superficially plausible, it checks all the right tropes. When asking youself why the US, UK, AUS and other western nations don't behave significantly differently, what is the explanation here? It's a surface level analysis at best. My answer to you is, yes, historical guilt that gets leveraged is factor, but the biggest player here is the tr@nsatlantic ideology that connects all of those nations
@@ExgrmblJein! Here's the thing: The US and UK are at least not responsible for the Holocaust, and if they support a genocide, that's not as grotesque as if Germany does, isn't it?
Try as they might, they always end up on the dark side of history, whether it's against the Herero and Namaqua people in present-day Namibia, or by supporting their ideological soulmates in Ukraine. Not to mention the one that defines them. And now, Gaza. It must be something in the water, as they say.
Nobody has to move anywhere because of "speaking out", whatever that means.. but this happens in Israel all the time. I know several israeli musician who came to germany because of that
Quite noticable how some here don´t like their faces being mushed into their own mess while finding out that there´s a cap to be worn because it fits. They start whining right away trying to discredit the entire observation by picking out minor inaccuracies, smearing those and by that trying to shatter Hefets´ credibility. As long as you don´t have these whining "complainees" in an argumentative chokehold they´ll always try to weasel out the shame of blame.
From my perspective as an german artist and pro palastine author. Much of Hefets criticism is correct, but some of it seems clearly exaggerated or even factually incorrect. All the harassment of artists (I am one myself), scientists or historians who clearly side with Palestine does indeed exist in one form or another. This is intolerable for me and I continuously oppose it. Examples include the banning and criminalisation of protests under hypocritical pretexts. The disinvitation and speaking bans for guests such as the former Greek economy minister Yanis Varoufakis (now politically active from the UK) are examples of dangerous nonsens. Nevertheless, Iris Hefets' portrayal is exaggerated. Just to give an example - the government (whose handling of the issue I reject as one-sided and overbearing) distinguishes even without exclamation marks between illegally occupied territories by Israel (East Jerusalem and settlements in the West Bank) and the territory of Israel and its sovereignty. (Find Below is a passage from the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs as proof.) In the same way, the media (which tend to support the government's diction here in a one-sided manner) generally do not put the issue of israels illegal occupation in inverted commas in their reporting. The fact that they - also as a rule - do not condemn this just as strictly as a violation of peoples' and human rights, such as Russia's land grab in Ukraine, is intolerable and would be true. However, the lack of differentiation - despite all of Hefet's justified criticism - distorts reality. The problem in the inner-German discourse - led by the conflict of ‘historical guilt’ and the question of ‘what can still be said’ - is that there are two isolated camps and no dialogue between. One backs the interests of Israel and practices blind spots (led by the current government) and the other not only defends the interests und right of the Palestinians (as it should!), but also heroises this side and demonises the other. The lack of open dialogue across the gap seems to be a problem... not only in Germany. I miss in the dialogue sentences like: ‘Israel is controlled by a right-wing extremist government and justifies insane claims from a basic attitude of apartheid and superiority, while at the same time this does not represent all Israelis, nor their hope for coexistence.’ Or vice versa: ‘The terror on the other side is not just a legitimate response to oppression, but also an ideological weapon of forces that are determined to escalate, on the backs of the Palestinians, who are being victimised here.' Bo From the official website of the german Gov: Quote/Unquote: 'Die Palästinensischen Gebiete (Ost-Jerusalem, Westjordanland und Gaza) und der Golan sind seit 1967 von Israel besetzt. Die Bundesregierung unterscheidet strikt zwischen dem Gebiet des Staates Israel und den besetzten Gebieten. .../...'
Her callling out the concept of "Gleichschaltung" was a minor epiphany for me. Here in Vienna I jokingly call myself a "Ketzer" -- a term applied to those who during the Protestant - Catholic religious conflicts kept speaking out about their "alternative" faith. It comes down to the education system: in the US, we are taught to be proud of our difference; here, the nail that sticks out must be hammered down in school until they're convinced they're not at all special.
I’m sorry, I am an American too, and I was never taught to be proud to be who I was. Or to be proud of my differences.. At least not in school anyway.. 🤷🏾♀️
That is a good question! The German capitalist class has tripled the “defence”budget since the outbreak of the war in Ukraine and is preparing to fight for its share of the world, especially as the U.S. undertakes the insane project of maintaining its dominance over the world economy. To revive militarism in Germany requires overcoming the history of Germany imperialism in both world wars. How better to do this than to claim you are now fighting “antisemitism”? In the 1990s the German Green Party leader and then German foreign minister Joschka Fischer said that Germany had a “special duty” to lead the intervention (and carve up!!) of Yugoslavia because of its history in WWII. There is also a shift to the left among the population in response to the wars and the genocide in Gaza. The ruling classes everywhere must find means to suppress this. I recommend watching the following from a 2019 discussion on the return of fascism in germany: What is fascism? with Trotskyist David North, Socialist Equality Party ua-cam.com/video/GCSodSijB_o/v-deo.html 8 mins
@@johnwilsonwsws wow, thank you for this perspective. I will watch the video you recommended as soon and I can. This is certainly a period of turmoil in many societies around the world because the economic and information impact of technology on all of us. I believe the coming 10 years we will see many many protests in many countries because there is a great deal of alienation, injustice and corruption. Gaza is a wake-up call, but sadly a heartbreaking wake-up call. Thank you again for your comment
I talked to numerous people about the genocide in gaza and for some genocide is something that only people we don't like can do. It's not that they don't accept any other genocide, other that the Shoa. They accept that there were genocides in yugoslavia and in Rwanda. They also accept both the genocide against the Armenians as well as that we committed against the Herero people. They will use the evidence we have for the shoa as a goalpost for the evidence needed to present concerning gaza (whilst not having looked at the evidence or the history themselves) but won't hesitate to accept genocides that were not as burocratic as the shoa was. Only people we think of as lesser than us can commit such horrid crimes (which inadvertently makes us the most cultured criminals in a perverse way). Racism and islamopobia feed into this way of thinking as well, as Palestinians are seen as lesser than Israelis, making some sympathise with Israel. For some others (like my parents) it is the gut feeling of the Israelis, seen as a stand in for all Jews, are and will be victims of us that could not commit such a horrid crime and that we have an obligation to support Israel due to our ultimate crime (I generally wouldn't call it guilt but rather a feeling of responsibility, although for some it's surely more akin to guilt). The idea that we expect Palestinians to pay for our crimes and to just make space and leave their homes as a consequence of a genocide we committed is rarely questioned. I dunno if this helps. Note: You can look into the "Anti Deutsch"e movement (Anti Germans) that split of from the left and heavily supports Israel no matter what. They grew less relevant over time but their way of thinking seems to creep up again and again and be deeply entrenched in some institutions and groups.
After what Germany did, there won't be any rationality again, never. Same will, err, has happened to the Zionists. Or the United States, "Great" Britain and any other fascist country.
@@samnabawy2731 You are using the expression wrong. The correct way would be: Glastonbury is a Mecca for music lovers. It's about a geographical site that crowds of people gravitate towards because something they love or are interested in is situated there. The way you use it is incorrect. Makes no sense. I didn't say you insulted my mother. I said it felt like you did. It's THEIR expression. Not ours. An expression that ridicules and diminishes the significance of our holiest site when used in such a flippant way. Shame on you. A Muslim should know better.
@@am1156 Yes, Germany is a geographical site for people who enjoy being in the wrong side of history. See? It does work. You say it doesn't make sense yet you clearly got it lol. Please tell me more about being a Muslim? Are you the gatekeeper? Shame on me? Shame on you for being a zealot Karen.
"To me the Zionists, who want to go back to the Jewish state of A.D. 70 (destruction of Jerusalem by Titus) are just as offensive as the Nazis. With their nosing after blood, their ancient "cultural roots," their partly canting, partly obtuse winding back of the world they are altogether a match for the National Socialists. That is the fantastic thing about the National Socialists, that they simultaneously share in a community of ideas with Soviet Russia and with Zion". Victor Klemperer, I Will Bear Witness 1933-41: A Diary of the Nazi Years
I don't know what antisemitism is because it's seems to be used to shield the horrific actions of idf where is the 🇵🇸 special terms for a Internationally supported racism 🤔❤️
Many people forget an important aspect of the zionist authoritarianism in Germany: we had it all before, during the covid hysteria. Civil rights were abandoned, certain demonstrations prohibited, certain information hidden by algorithms, a group of people vilivied by the mass media, politicians, VIPs, neighbors. People who got their voices heard were persecuted, they lost their job, their bussiness, their reputiation, their banking account and sometimes their freedom. And of course communities, friends, sometimes familiy members. Now I see it happening again, with another vilified group and other political claims. The disturbing thing to me is that many German peace or human rights activists, like this lady here, ignore the connections. During covid, they cheered the aggressive supression of resistance againg the authoritarian measures, now they act as if nothing had happened, German history had started seven month ago and they were the first victims ever.
Not interesting at all. did that pretentious lady in the video say that? I stopped watching after less than 5 minutes when it was abundantly clear that she's completely talking out of her a$$... Germany is one of the least racist countries in Europe..
Not surprising at all....middle eastern countries in general are far less racist than westerm countries....some of them have far more immigrants than they have locals, but u barely hear them complaining Right wing in the west cant even accept mere migrants, yet they would tell palestinians to just accept being colonized
Do these German Protestants who convert to Judaism come from families with many ancestors who practiced Judaism, like the Spanish descendants of forced conversions?
I don't know, but given the situation here in Germany, I'd bet they are mostly opportunists who converted for the higher social status of being a (conformist) Jew in Germany.
I dont know any. The known Jews in public in Germany are mostly born as Jew or kids of Jewish fathers (due to the low numbers of Jews in the country after 45 there were quite some interreligious marriages) and often Shoah descendents. The same is valid for some Jews who immigrated from former Soviet Union in the late 1990s eraly 2000s. There might be some German protestants converting to Judaism, but they are neither well known nor huge in numbers. It might be that Jewish life in Germany does not look Jewish enough for people from Israel or US, where the numbers were always higher and just more space for forming an identity existed which was neither the case in Germany nor in Eastern Europe after 45. And it is just not true that Germany splits Jews up into good (conformal) and bad (resisting). Almost all were sometimes praised and sometimes rejected or both at the same time by different people.
Nonsense. Germans who would be hurt by this, by the truth, won't ever know there is a channel like this. They are watching German state TV news. I won'I won't make it through 3 minutes of these "news".
@@Cnichal google translate doesn't care much for grammatical errors. I made the sentence to be gender neutral, the right sentence would be "Der Mann und die Frau sahen den Jungen." In german, you use gender specific articles "der, die, das" instead of "a, the". In all you have to put either "der, ein, die, eine, das, ein, den, einen, die, eine, das, ein, dem, einem, der, einer, dem, einem, des, eines, der, einer, des, eines" in front of a word depending what gender it is and if you have one or more of it. You could make it a much easier language if everything was "das", meaning gender unspecific.
From Germany: I don't see the first point Iris Hefets makes. As a nurse or a physician working in a country you have to communicate with the patients. Many of the elderly people in Germany don't speak English. Some of the nurses who come from Russia don't speak English either. So, you have to have a sufficient knowledge of the German language in order to work in the German health sector. You must be able to communicate with patients and colleagues. I'd wish there were more German language courses for health workers during the working hours in order to help people coming to my country.
Nurses are quitting or going part-time in droves, because the health sector pay is so shitty and working conditions are horrible. Of course Filipino nurses rather go to Dubai, and don't want to become low wage slaves in Germany, lol. We could activate a quite large group of former nurses, if we would implement a minimum wage. But no, that would be too expensive for the corporations that are trying to squeeze the last Euro out of our elderly. It's sickening.
@@tom_hagen1972 classic "We need more immigration so we have people that we can treat like sh... to fill the jobs that natives don't want to do anymore because we treated them like sh..."
That makes perfect sense: I'd want my nurse to be able to communicate with me fluently in English, so it only stands to reason that German people need German-speaking nurses!
No kidding, I have gone to a local restaurant here in Germany to find a customer, recently back from a vacation, giving a slideshow summary of his vacation to the other diners. I don't remember how many "also's" there were in his lecture.
Ask yourself what semitism is instead of letting intruders you’ve made leave before for their abhorrent behavior redefine your language in your homeland.
First time I hear someone accurately describing Germany. This honesty is what they're afraid of! I don't wanna hear the guilt argument anymore, states don't feel guilt.
You may not like to hear it, but collective Guilt is still a big factor among germans..and of course they, israel and germany, have huge trading agreements especially in the arms industry, so a lot of financial ties. These two countries deserve each other, ugly societies dressed up as tollerant and progressive.
@@florafauna5883 Does the German state feel collective guilt for Namibia? Or even LGBTQIA, Gypsy people like the Roma & Sinti, and many more. I don't see the German state policy supporting the right of all these people to colo,nize and make new ethnocracies. There's no consistency in this guilt story. States don't "feel" anything. Some German people do feel this I'm not denying, but guilt has never been a real state policy. I believe it's all about mutual interests. There are still to this day American miltary bases and troops in Germamy, thousands of them. When Biden promised to stop Nordstream, the main artery to German industries, in front of chancellor Scholz. He didn't say one word. If the Germam state is willing to halt its industrial sector to conform to American policy, I'm afraid it also cannot have an independent opinion on isn'treal, zinoism or any of that. Gives a whole new meaning to Scholz's recent statement "Raison d'être", right? Germany might not continue to exist if it ever tries to take an oppositional stance against US policy.
We don't have enough psychotherapists because health insurance limits the number of therapists that can bill public insurances (without a lot of bureaucracy) in each region. The number of these licenses have been calculated quite a while ago when there was much less demand. It's not that difficult to find somebody if you pay out of pocket, but since it should be covered by insurance people don't. Also, psychotherapists have high fees which is because it's so regulated that there is not that much supply (there is enough, but not to the point where they would be forced to decrease prices) and more importantly, many therapists start working with debts or having invested a lot of money. I have yet to hear of psychotherapy places being shut due to antisemitism accusations. Other places have been shutdown and it's a disgrace. But the connection she makes is off. Also, Berlin is different from other parts of Germany in many ways. Psychotherapy is one such way in which Berlin is different from the rest.
She wouldn't be a good representative of us Gemans. The politicians at the top definitely are. We get what we deserve, liars, opportunists, morons, like us.
Why are people calling people tzars now? I've seen it a few times and from context i think it means expert consultant but in a derogatory fashion to draw comparisons to russia & oligarchy. Is that correct or is this an actual title people are given and that's somehow missed me for 30 years?
"...but in a derogatory fashion to draw comparisons to russia & oligarchy" Close, but not necessarily in the derogatory sense. The word "tzar" is used to suggest that the person has broad authority and control over a specific area, reflecting a high level of responsibility and power. It's a nod to the historical Russian emperors who wielded extensive power, implying that the role involves significant influence and oversight.
Jesus ,Katie halper has cultivated an audience of dimwits.. This is one of the most demented comment sections you can find anywhere on left wing youtube
Nobody demands that you speak perfect German. Germans don't even expect foreigners to speak German at all.. What a nonsensical thing to say... I don't think she could have possibly said anything profound about germany, after that
Are you even in Germany? As a matter of fact critisism of German speaking skills are used quite generally in politics and media and society to denounce migrants as a group.
@@sakha2349 yes I am living in germany and show me the example of missing german skills being used TO DENOUNCE MIGRANTS AS A GROUP. And I'm not talking about calling non-existing german language skills, for people who have been here for decades, an example of a lack of integration or even the will for it. That's clearly not what the lady talked about.. You're just beyond dishonest
Dishonest? Don't you have any contact with the media, don't you hear right wing politics? Or even just certain sections of the public that think people just dont want to integrate? Maybe you don't hear or see because of your background? I dont know you so I can't judge.
You are absolutely right. I don't expect people to speak my language perfectly - but when I go to a therapist or an MD I want to be understood fully and with all the nuances my language offers - just to be sure.....I think I am not expecting too much
@theoderich1168 - just the fact you have this expectation shows your bias in believing that there may be people who don't want to speak your language well. Have you ever been to a professional and not been understood or not not understood your MD or therapist? German media and political arrogance actually knows no boundaries when it comes to migrants. They make the 'People' believe there are big problems where there aren't.
Netanyahu went to Germany with the message that the Mufti (read Palestinians, read Muslims) committed the holocaust, not Hitler, not the Germans. This is off course insulting nonsense. Millions of Muslims fought against the antisemitic Nazis during WW2. But many Germans were relieved that according to Netanyahyu Grandfather was not so bad after all. And they can bash the muslims, and meanwhile think they are doing OK because they are defending Israel, which means the Jews. It is disgusting. The founders of Israel Irgun, Haganah, Lechi fought the UK during WW2, which was the enemy of Nazi Germany. Some of the Zionists cooperated with Nazi Germany directly. Thanks to Arab Legion which supported the UK army in Palestine, UK troops could fight at another front (The Nazi front in Europe) and end the holocaust. Thus: The Founders of Israel lengthened the holocaust. Muslims stopped it.
*The matter at hand, dear sir, is rather elementary. Germany, in its infinite wisdom, cannot bear to witness the downfall of Israel, for it shudders at the very thought of Jews once more residing within its borders. The depth of racial prejudice in Germany is, alas, quite profound.*
Did she say there are no Jews in the German army now? I bet she didn’t know there were 150,000 Jewish soldiers during WW2? Yup, and she didn’t know everything that she learned about the war was a lie. Eric Arthur Blair really lived in Orwellian times. We thought he was writing a fictional novel warning us about the future. He was writing an historical novel warning us about the past.
@@sakha2349 нет, ты не правельно думаешь. это в не первую мировую войну. это все, именно во вторую мировую войну. а именно,150 000 евреев служили в СС. но, один ушлый народ, всеми силами старатеся это скрыть от мира. а ютуб и прочие фейсбуки, стараются помочь им скрыть правду об этих 150 000 евреях, которые служили в СС
pretending they are against their own personal and collective interests to protect their personal and collective image and to deflect from the real issue
Sorry that the ideas of ethnicity vs religion, indigenous land vs colonialism/apartheid and caring for people (Jews) while despising corrupt political projects (Zionism) is still SO hard for you to grasp. Don't hurt yourself. Take a break.
@@questioneverything1682 Frankly, "Jewish ethnicity" is fiction. There is no "Muslim ethnicity". No "Christian ethnicity". No "Buddhist ethnicity." It is the assertion of a "Jewish ethnicity" that leads Zionists to say that Israel is the country of the "Jewish people."
As a German, I must admit that we in Germany neither understand Judaism nor, above all, do we consider anything but our own sensitivities on the subject. Essentially, we view Israel as Judaism and all Jews as Israelis or wanting to be Israelis (and do not even realize that in doing so, we are practically defining antisemitism).
Is this because the subject is generally avoided, out of fear of being even suspected of anti-semitism?
@@nilskp
Both. There is no natural, easy relationship, where people feel free to express themselves just so. There is only complete awkwardness around this subject. But what is happening over there is so f-ed up that more people can bring themselves to no longer care, because it's too much. From some of the people here you could get the idea that israel is superpopular in germany, but that is not really the case, current polls show that around 15-18% at best support what Israel does militarily.
@@ExgrmblSimilar numbers in the UK but both options of the government support Israel so the general population has no choice
@@juliandarch9278
Yes, there is also complacency since even though life is getting worse, things are declining and less affordable every year, there is still bread and circus and fundamentally closer and more personal problems that one can worry about before this - even if they disagree with the policies regarding israel completely. A similar dynamic happened with the war in afghanistan, it was always insanely unpopular in Germany, everybody believed it was bullshit and yet it happened.
Yes I agree and they all worship this wrong way like a cult! But there are Germans especially from the Millenials and younger who understand it quite well and give a shit about the false lived culture in Germany but we get cancelled! The Ampel made it just worse!
The German term for antisemitism czar is "Antisemitismus-Beauftragter". There is one on the federal level and there are others in several states. No special qualification is required for this job.
In England we just say of the anti semitism freaks 'Sie sind voller Scheiße'
This is pretty obvious that no education is required for this role
@@gretchenthedevil9209 german people went thru a de-nazification program and probably are still exposed to it, id say they have enough education on the topic.
Other than being virulently pro-Apartheid.
"Beauftragter" is a funny title in this context. Sounds like he was appointed to create antisemitism lol
I don't know how common these ideas are in germany itself, i'm american. but i know here in america, critical takes like this are extremely hard to come across because establishment media does not address these ideas so very few people understand it. as a result we are all feeling isolated in our resistance. i can only hope a lot of germans are exposed to these kinds of analyses
In UK similar to ur experience
When it comes to this topic, Germans are not informed about anything. In fact information is suppressed. I have not met one person who knows about the nakba.
There is a historical aspect to this, but people love to overpsychologise this, they get to make historic connections and feel totally smart and knowledgeable about it. In practical reality though, this happens in germany the same way it happens in UK, US or AUS - by a combined effort of the state and media apparatus. Part of the founding mythology of the republic is also that ensuring Israel's safety is a raison d'état and people get that drilled into their head by public media. It's not much different from american media and political class repeating the "greatest ally" mantra.
Completely taboo in the mainstream media. Taboo, Taboo. Israel good, no discussion.
Errr... Katy Halper is American.... and US Jewish voices have been the leading lights against Zionist horror.
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Amazing how crazy Germany is decending into creating conditions for thoughtlessness making their citizens unable to differenciate between right/wrong, reality/fiction...
Just like the United States.
Just like all the Christian colonial projects.
@@moodist1er There are none. I guess you're referring to Anglo-Saxon settler colonies in North America and Australia and Spanish and Portuguese colonies in South America.
It's not thoughtlessness, it's very well though up. 'Israel' is holy and no criticism of any kind is ever allowed.
@@vaska1999 and Roman colonies in Germany
Such an important voice! This is incredibly important context. I love her “reforesting” analogy in this clip and her “nature preserve” reference in another clip from this interview…
Thank you Katie❤ Iris is talking the truth about Germany
I'm less than 1 minute in and I already knows she is clueless about germany
But I wouldn't expect a jimmy dore listener to be able to tell fantasy from facts
Thanks for sharing this interesting interview. Hello from Northern Germany.✨👨🎨🎨👍🏻❤️🍉✨
lose the emojis, your commentary looks just like the porn spam afflicting youtube.
Thank you Iris Hefets. Thank you Katie.
like explaining slavery to black people ...
Because there are blacks who actually lived through slavery?
A very low percentage of them have been slaves historically but a high percentage have lacked sufficient knowledge. What would be the issue?
@@candidlensoh look a racist
@@candidlens Read it as a response to the video title, and it will make sense.
@@candidlens🤡
Looks like it is 1930-1940 all over again
But with a regrettable twist
@Karen-ul9hd It wasn't regrettable enough back then? It wasn't only Jewish folk that suffered, also Poles and other Slaves, Communists, gay people and the disabled and other German vulnerables. The Nazis killed lots of their own vulnerable people. There were also Kapos, Jewish guards at concentration camps, some of whom were enthusiastically cruel.
@@Karen-ul9hd Exactly.
Really? in what way does it look like the 3rd Reich? .. I'm really curious
@@user-ve7hn2dh8h have you seen pro palestian reallies in germany. They are openly antismetic. In Berlin jews are afraid to wear the Kippa because pro palestians will attack them in the spot. The Muslim community in bigger cities often have a huge antismetic Problem. And they do not confront it because it is easier to refer to german history and say we can not be antismetic we are not german.
Much of Love, appreciation and respect for Iris Hefets. I'm Syrian and I share with her the same human values. Thanks are always to Katie, one of my favorite UA-camrs/journalists ever.
On the one hand, Germany has plenty of experience with antisemitism and racism and imperialism in general. On the other hand, they clearly haven't learned anything from it, including the Holocaust.
you just said it about yourself projecting your ignorance out this time on germany, go and learn about all those issues then
@wiwlarue4097 - I know Germany very well and I can say that Germany as a society has learned nothing from their history.
@@sakha2349 what exactly do you mean when you say germans haven't learned from history?
@@wiwlarue4097well they clearly haven’t learnt that fascism is a bad idea…
@@wiwlarue4097 die tatsache dass wir in diesem jarhundert schon 2 mal "uneingeschränkte solidarität" mit kriegsverbrechern erklärt haben.
Die tatsache das "never again" nicht nur für juden gelten sollte.
Mein 20.000 leute kaff geht 3 mal in den Gaza streifen, dabei ist dort in den letzten monaten mehr munition gelandet als in dresden während des 2. weltkriegs.
Isreal betreibt aggressive kolonialpolitik mit den illegalen siedlungen im westjordanland.
ALLES davon. JEDER EINZELNE PUNKT den wir politisch decken, zeigt dass wir nichts gelernt haben
Keep up the fight, Iris & Katie, you beautiful women that show everyday that beauty isn’t skin deep, from Sydney Australia
First of all congratulation to both of you ladies for all the work you do !!! It is monumental !
Second, as a Romanian born, by the end of the comunist era, I am horrified to witness the same tension in the societies, resulted from the induced fear into the entire society, being imposed to the civil societies at a global level !
How on earth did we end up here, it is beyond my understanding : lack of education + an induces agenda + lack of comun sense + lack of families and personal histories ! I have no clue but Russia Iran and China look far better than ''we the westerners ''
Thank you for speaking up
I agree 100% with your observations Iris.
Germany is completely broken and its only getting worse
I have a lot to criticise. But what you say about Germany is simply not true.
And why is it "broken"? Wasn't it "imposed"?
Yep, it's a downward spiral here..
@@michellescholz3016 No, I don't see that this way.
@@R_Priest imposed by who? The Germans?
Thanks for your Courage ❤
I am a woman,born in Berlin/Gernany with PALESTINIAN roots (Mum and Dad,both were born in Palestine). And it is a fight since the kindergarden.
May Allah t free our Land from all these Demons...Ameen🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🤲🏽🤲🏽🤲🏽🤲🏽
May Allah t free our Land from all these Demons...Ameen🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 @sahirassicht
Now that is anti-Semitic
Long live free Palestine. Religion is the opium of the people.
allah are the idols in your averted mind.
@@jeremyfeldman1you’re the one assuming that Jewish people are the ones being referred to as demons. Pretty antisemitic if you ask me.
@@jeremyfeldman1Why? What's antisemitic about that?
Nurses and healthcare workers in general aren't payed good in Germany, like in other countries.
Well paid compared to the Phillipines
@@maxmeggeneder8935 only to look at the payments isn't helpful.
The costs of living are much, much higher in Germany than in the Phillipines.
@@Keepthepeacesharethelove I live in Austria. I know. Living expanses are much higher in Switzerland than here. Yet working in Switzerland will make you a lot of money. Especially if the job provides housing and some basic food. Which I think is done for phillipino nurses. They still don´t get paid well enough.
I have been living in Germany for over 30 years. I have also lived in other countries. I totally agree with a lot that Iris Hefets says. I currently know NOONE who wants to talk about Israel and the genocide it is committing. I am quite devastated by this. Most people are too afraid to speak out, afraid of being identified in their community, afraid of being considered different, afraid of being ostracized, generally just afraid of having an opinion!!!!!!!!!!! It is truly shocking. I am losing interest in contacting any of my German friends, who prefer to talk about anything, literally anythng else other than the genocide of Palestinians. You could use all the expressions like....burying their heads in the sand, sweeping it all under the carpet, turning a blind eye...etc etc. They do NOT understand what it is to really discuss, to disagree, to endure a bit of disharmony in a friendship, to formulate a strong opinon let alone stand up for it!!! I have examined all these things for years and years but now I have no interest in any more 'reasons', 'causes', 'circumstances', or 'explanations' for their behaviour. I dislike it, I don't respect it, I find it pathetic, I find it deeply disturbing, I find it totally unattractive and massively concerning. I don't believe that Germany has processed very much at all since it committed genocide against the jews and others in WW2. I don't even think they really understand what 'processing' means, or accepting the responsibility to ensure it never happens again. There may be a small number of German people who are an exception to the rule, like Iris Hefets. She is isolated in her own circle of therapists as she said. I applaud her courage, applaud her stand, applaud her risk-taking and applaud her commitment to humanity. She sounds like a great and valuable person to me, I wonder if she wants to meet for coffee?????? STAY CONNECTED TO YOUR HEARTS PEOPLE!!!💞
Same here! I live since 30 years in Germany. Most Germans are (regarding this item) weird and have no idea about judaism, they have a toxic link to Israel. They are not able to hear people like Iris. What a shame the path they took to work out their feeling of guilt. It doesn't help anybody, not even themselves.
She should have mentioned the so-called Staatsräson, that makes Germany support Israel unconditionally. It derives from the guilt, Germans have developed after WW2 and also kind of serves as an easy solution to make yourself believe, you are "the good one". As a therapist she describes that pretty accurate. The so-called Staatsräson is another step towards creating facts in this case. It's like a general rule for German policies.
I don't know, if she's also an economist or historian (I'm not, to make that clear), but I'm confident that it's not (only) economical reasons that keep this going. She talks about Germany's unity with the United States in this case and I'd say that that's the actual reason. Germany was heavily influenced by US policies and political stands after WW2. I'd argue that this was primarily the case because of economical dependencies and that it later became a matter of security during the cold war, mixed with the (here comes the guilt again) certainty, that Germany would not be a military power again anytime soon, so of course they seek leadership in another superpower.
I don't say, that all this is ok the way it is, but as a therapist she should know, that the development of values is quite complex and the cognitive dissonance that prevents us from making changes, is very strong. She also should have mentioned that there are many Germans, who are explicitly criticizing the Israeli government, are branded as antisemitic. That's also a reason, why many pedal back (there's the guilt again) in their opinion or silence themselves.
The only way, I see substantial changes would be when more and more Jews would return to Germany and have a saying in politics and creating new values towards sensitive topics, which there unfortunately still are.
I for myself am afraid, that this won't change anytime soon, but I'm confident, that it will change. But this will take generations. I've experienced the trauma in Jewish families, I've met in Israel, generations later, so I would bet the guilt won't just go away either.
P.s.: the so-called "Juden in der AfD" are not taken serious by officials and not by the majority of citizens. Many of them are fraud, some in connection to waves of fake Russian jews, who came to Germany in the 90s by exploiting immigration policies that were meant to give Jews a home in Germany again.
Great video & analysis.
Psychopaths and charlatants 🤦🏻♀️ the scary part they have power...
Thank you Iris for your stance and strong moral compass. I'm a trauma therapist/clinical psychologist in Australia and have largely felt the same. None of our institutions and hardly any colleagues have said a thing. Such a moral and ethical failure
This is definitely psychotic. Thank you Katie for having her on your show.
Thank you again, Katie, for inviting Iris Hefets for abother talk. I can subscribe to every single word she says. It´s so strange to see my country becoming openly fascist under a government led by the Social-Democratic party, while still pretending to be a Democratic state. I didn´t know about all those converted Christians though, who pretend to be Jews now (I can´t imagine them being religious in any sense, I think, that is simply some kind of "fashion" and also a good way to be able to participate in the crimes against humanity in Palestine without the fear of prosecution). But to be honest, I don´t wonder. Therefore I also want to thank Iris for all the informations, I can´t get from any German media.
"However, I didn't know about all the converted Christians who now claim to be Jews (I can't imagine them being religious in any way)"
This is the first time I've heard this and I can't imagine it. There are certainly verifiable numbers for this?
@@linnyschlamm3310
Interestingly, even in my country in southeast asia, some of our people are allowed to convert to Judaism and move to Israel...they have to go through lenghty process to pass tho
Thank you for having this honest n classy lady on ur show.
I’m gonna go ahead and say, “Too soon” to the Germans on this one. They’re gonna need to give us at least a century before they wade out into any discourse on the subjects of genocides, ethnic cleansing, racial hatred, etc. The Germans need to just sit this one out.
They still refuse to acknowledge that the Siege of Stalingrad, in which over 1.5 million civilians perished, was a war crime....
This!
Und, bitte, bitte, hört niemals auf die Deutschen daran zu erinnern, welche Rolle sie in diesem Genozid gespielt haben. Reibt es richtig in die Wunde!
And please please, never stop reminding the Germans about the role they played in this genocide. Rub it right into the wound!
ignoramus nonsense of cource.
Sit this one out. You mean the genocide israhell is currently doing?
No worries, other countries will do that for Germany. The Israeli government has to awnser for its crimes.
Germany and Austria in „Gleichschritt“ (doing the same politics, it does’nt matter which party is in power) without any doubt. The former leader of the Green Party is now the President of the Austrian Republic (Van der Bellen). And the actual Austrian Government (the right wing „People‘s Party“ in coalition with the Green Party) voted 3 times (twice in the UN general assembly and once in the EU) against a humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza. And Van der Bellen said publicly that the Austrian vote in the UN was a right decision…..disgusting, supporting the genocide.
Wow! Thank you, so much, Ms Halper and Dr Hefets, for this illuminating exchange.
We learn from history that we do not...
A precious and interesting view from "inside"! Lots of thanks for both of you!
I'm just an outsider so take my comment with a grain of salt. It seems like Jews or Judaism needs to rebel against their religion being used as a false cause for racist reasons.
Germany has lost its mind.
Germany is run by the CIA since the end of WWII
There was never a mind to lose. The modern German state was founded by a war against France in 1871. And if there was a tiny bit of "mind", we lost it in 1914 when we destroyed Europe once and for all.
@@chrisko6439 that is cute. U mean when Britain and France objected to a rising new colonialist power in 2014 and when the US decided to object to strong new power that does not trade in dollars in the 1930s.
Germany didn’t change one bit. Different victim but same behavior.
Exactly - they became philosemitic and anti Muslim people ( after the war years they encouraged 'guest workers' many who were muslims from turkey)
I've thought for a few years about why this is with Germany. I think it's the culture of conformity which comes from a mixture of their blend of Protestantism and militarism.
I recommend Hans-Ulrich Wehler's book Imperial Germany.
Funny thing is how nuanced and insightful their early 19th century philosophers were.
@@charliebarton
You simply make that connection because you can. It fits your stereotypes and preconceived notions, and so seems superficially plausible, it checks all the right tropes. When asking youself why the US, UK, AUS and other western nations don't behave significantly differently, what is the explanation here?
It's a surface level analysis at best. My answer to you is, yes, historical guilt that gets leveraged is factor, but the biggest player here is the tr@nsatlantic ideology that connects all of those nations
@@Exgrmblso a culture of conformity ✅
@@ExgrmblJein! Here's the thing: The US and UK are at least not responsible for the Holocaust, and if they support a genocide, that's not as grotesque as if Germany does, isn't it?
Germany is always wrong with story and history
If true they're like muslims.
@Ka_mila.717: But the only country in world history that has been on the wrong side of history the most times is Israel!
no, not really
Cute, the comment of a person with a mindset of a 7 year old.
@@noname-12184 Yes, really.. Israel is not a legally established country. It is built on land stolen from Palestine.
Try as they might, they always end up on the dark side of history, whether it's against the Herero and Namaqua people in present-day Namibia, or by supporting their ideological soulmates in Ukraine. Not to mention the one that defines them. And now, Gaza. It must be something in the water, as they say.
I live in Germany and what she says is 100% real
This is INSANE
No its not
@@user-ve7hn2dh8h Schnauze Kartoffel
Yeah...I know a musician who has to move because he spoke out.
Nobody has to move anywhere because of "speaking out", whatever that means.. but this happens in Israel all the time. I know several israeli musician who came to germany because of that
@@user-ve7hn2dh8h you live in a fantasy world bro
Quite noticable how some here don´t like their faces being mushed into their own mess while finding out that there´s a cap to be worn because it fits. They start whining right away trying to discredit the entire observation by picking out minor inaccuracies, smearing those and by that trying to shatter Hefets´ credibility. As long as you don´t have these whining "complainees" in an argumentative chokehold they´ll always try to weasel out the shame of blame.
From my perspective as an german artist and pro palastine author. Much of Hefets criticism is correct, but some of it seems clearly exaggerated or even factually incorrect. All the harassment of artists (I am one myself), scientists or historians who clearly side with Palestine does indeed exist in one form or another. This is intolerable for me and I continuously oppose it. Examples include the banning and criminalisation of protests under hypocritical pretexts. The disinvitation and speaking bans for guests such as the former Greek economy minister Yanis Varoufakis (now politically active from the UK) are examples of dangerous nonsens. Nevertheless, Iris Hefets' portrayal is exaggerated. Just to give an example - the government (whose handling of the issue I reject as one-sided and overbearing) distinguishes even without exclamation marks between illegally occupied territories by Israel (East Jerusalem and settlements in the West Bank) and the territory of Israel and its sovereignty. (Find Below is a passage from the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs as proof.)
In the same way, the media (which tend to support the government's diction here in a one-sided manner) generally do not put the issue of israels illegal occupation in inverted commas in their reporting. The fact that they - also as a rule - do not condemn this just as strictly as a violation of peoples' and human rights, such as Russia's land grab in Ukraine, is intolerable and would be true.
However, the lack of differentiation - despite all of Hefet's justified criticism - distorts reality. The problem in the inner-German discourse - led by the conflict of ‘historical guilt’ and the question of ‘what can still be said’ - is that there are two isolated camps and no dialogue between. One backs the interests of Israel and practices blind spots (led by the current government) and the other not only defends the interests und right of the Palestinians (as it should!), but also heroises this side and demonises the other. The lack of open dialogue across the gap seems to be a problem... not only in Germany.
I miss in the dialogue sentences like: ‘Israel is controlled by a right-wing extremist government and justifies insane claims from a basic attitude of apartheid and superiority, while at the same time this does not represent all Israelis, nor their hope for coexistence.’ Or vice versa: ‘The terror on the other side is not just a legitimate response to oppression, but also an ideological weapon of forces that are determined to escalate, on the backs of the Palestinians, who are being victimised here.' Bo
From the official website of the german Gov: Quote/Unquote: 'Die Palästinensischen Gebiete (Ost-Jerusalem, Westjordanland und Gaza) und der Golan sind seit 1967 von Israel besetzt. Die Bundesregierung unterscheidet strikt zwischen dem Gebiet des Staates Israel und den besetzten Gebieten. .../...'
Her callling out the concept of "Gleichschaltung" was a minor epiphany for me. Here in Vienna I jokingly call myself a "Ketzer" -- a term applied to those who during the Protestant - Catholic religious conflicts kept speaking out about their "alternative" faith. It comes down to the education system: in the US, we are taught to be proud of our difference; here, the nail that sticks out must be hammered down in school until they're convinced they're not at all special.
I’m sorry, I am an American too, and I was never taught to be proud to be who I was. Or to be proud of my differences.. At least not in school anyway.. 🤷🏾♀️
@@Cnichal So your exception refutes my point? Have you been to Germany or Austria for comparison?
I am trying to find a rational reason to what Germany is doing. Are they trying to correct or undo a horrible crime by supporting another crime🤔
That is a good question!
The German capitalist class has tripled the “defence”budget since the outbreak of the war in Ukraine and is preparing to fight for its share of the world, especially as the U.S. undertakes the insane project of maintaining its dominance over the world economy.
To revive militarism in Germany requires overcoming the history of Germany imperialism in both world wars. How better to do this than to claim you are now fighting “antisemitism”?
In the 1990s the German Green Party leader and then German foreign minister Joschka Fischer said that Germany had a “special duty” to lead the intervention (and carve up!!) of Yugoslavia because of its history in WWII.
There is also a shift to the left among the population in response to the wars and the genocide in Gaza. The ruling classes everywhere must find means to suppress this.
I recommend watching the following from a 2019 discussion on the return of fascism in germany:
What is fascism? with Trotskyist David North, Socialist Equality Party
ua-cam.com/video/GCSodSijB_o/v-deo.html
8 mins
@@johnwilsonwsws wow, thank you for this perspective. I will watch the video you recommended as soon and I can.
This is certainly a period of turmoil in many societies around the world because the economic and information impact of technology on all of us. I believe the coming 10 years we will see many many protests in many countries because there is a great deal of alienation, injustice and corruption. Gaza is a wake-up call, but sadly a heartbreaking wake-up call.
Thank you again for your comment
I talked to numerous people about the genocide in gaza and for some genocide is something that only people we don't like can do.
It's not that they don't accept any other genocide, other that the Shoa.
They accept that there were genocides in yugoslavia and in Rwanda. They also accept both the genocide against the Armenians as well as that we committed against the Herero people.
They will use the evidence we have for the shoa as a goalpost for the evidence needed to present concerning gaza (whilst not having looked at the evidence or the history themselves) but won't hesitate to accept genocides that were not as burocratic as the shoa was. Only people we think of as lesser than us can commit such horrid crimes (which inadvertently makes us the most cultured criminals in a perverse way). Racism and islamopobia feed into this way of thinking as well, as Palestinians are seen as lesser than Israelis, making some sympathise with Israel.
For some others (like my parents) it is the gut feeling of the Israelis, seen as a stand in for all Jews, are and will be victims of us that could not commit such a horrid crime and that we have an obligation to support Israel due to our ultimate crime (I generally wouldn't call it guilt but rather a feeling of responsibility, although for some it's surely more akin to guilt).
The idea that we expect Palestinians to pay for our crimes and to just make space and leave their homes as a consequence of a genocide we committed is rarely questioned.
I dunno if this helps.
Note: You can look into the "Anti Deutsch"e movement (Anti Germans) that split of from the left and heavily supports Israel no matter what. They grew less relevant over time but their way of thinking seems to creep up again and again and be deeply entrenched in some institutions and groups.
Yes. The elites are ideologues and they really believe the party line. With a whole battery of "Schreibtischtäter" behind them (desk perpetrators).
After what Germany did, there won't be any rationality again, never. Same will, err, has happened to the Zionists. Or the United States, "Great" Britain and any other fascist country.
Thank u Kati and thank u Iris.❤
Germany is a Mecca for ALWAYS being on the wrong side of history
How about not using Mecca in this context? Pretty please. It feels like you've insulted my mother...
@@am1156 I didn't insult your mother. It's an expression. I'm Muslim.
@@samnabawy2731 You are using the expression wrong. The correct way would be: Glastonbury is a Mecca for music lovers. It's about a geographical site that crowds of people gravitate towards because something they love or are interested in is situated there. The way you use it is incorrect. Makes no sense.
I didn't say you insulted my mother. I said it felt like you did. It's THEIR expression. Not ours. An expression that ridicules and diminishes the significance of our holiest site when used in such a flippant way. Shame on you. A Muslim should know better.
Other than WWII when was that?
@@am1156 Yes, Germany is a geographical site for people who enjoy being in the wrong side of history. See? It does work. You say it doesn't make sense yet you clearly got it lol. Please tell me more about being a Muslim? Are you the gatekeeper? Shame on me? Shame on you for being a zealot Karen.
This was a super fresh new perspective for me. Subscribed on Patreon! Ty!✌🏼
when you read victor klemperers lingua tertia imperia you stumble upon a part where he obviously is against zionism and despises zionists at all.
"To me the Zionists, who want to go back to the Jewish state of A.D. 70 (destruction of Jerusalem by Titus) are just as offensive as the Nazis. With their nosing after blood, their ancient "cultural roots," their partly canting, partly obtuse winding back of the world they are altogether a match for the National Socialists. That is the fantastic thing about the National Socialists, that they simultaneously share in a community of ideas with Soviet Russia and with Zion".
Victor Klemperer, I Will Bear Witness 1933-41: A Diary of the Nazi Years
I don't know what antisemitism is because it's seems to be used to shield the horrific actions of idf where is the 🇵🇸 special terms for a Internationally supported racism 🤔❤️
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same shit in Australia
Interesting
@@Mavi-de2mv more depressing than interesting unfortunately
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Many people forget an important aspect of the zionist authoritarianism in Germany: we had it all before, during the covid hysteria. Civil rights were abandoned, certain demonstrations prohibited, certain information hidden by algorithms, a group of people vilivied by the mass media, politicians, VIPs, neighbors. People who got their voices heard were persecuted, they lost their job, their bussiness, their reputiation, their banking account and sometimes their freedom. And of course communities, friends, sometimes familiy members.
Now I see it happening again, with another vilified group and other political claims. The disturbing thing to me is that many German peace or human rights activists, like this lady here, ignore the connections. During covid, they cheered the aggressive supression of resistance againg the authoritarian measures, now they act as if nothing had happened, German history had started seven month ago and they were the first victims ever.
Quantum physics:
Europe is Europe - one body that is in separate sections but operates as one unit.
This is very, very concerning. Solidarity
BARBARA LERNER SPECTRE lays it out EXACTLY how it is….Look her up
It's about one thing and one thing only and that has very little to do with Jews and everything with the 'Jewish state'.
Thank you for your courage
Germany is more racist than Saudi Arabia. Well, that's an interesting point of view.
Not interesting at all. did that pretentious lady in the video say that? I stopped watching after less than 5 minutes when it was abundantly clear that she's completely talking out of her a$$... Germany is one of the least racist countries in Europe..
Not surprising at all....middle eastern countries in general are far less racist than westerm countries....some of them have far more immigrants than they have locals, but u barely hear them complaining
Right wing in the west cant even accept mere migrants, yet they would tell palestinians to just accept being colonized
Do these German Protestants who convert to Judaism come from families with many ancestors who practiced Judaism, like the Spanish descendants of forced conversions?
I don't know, but given the situation here in Germany, I'd bet they are mostly opportunists who converted for the higher social status of being a (conformist) Jew in Germany.
I dont know any. The known Jews in public in Germany are mostly born as Jew or kids of Jewish fathers (due to the low numbers of Jews in the country after 45 there were quite some interreligious marriages) and often Shoah descendents. The same is valid for some Jews who immigrated from former Soviet Union in the late 1990s eraly 2000s. There might be some German protestants converting to Judaism, but they are neither well known nor huge in numbers. It might be that Jewish life in Germany does not look Jewish enough for people from Israel or US, where the numbers were always higher and just more space for forming an identity existed which was neither the case in Germany nor in Eastern Europe after 45. And it is just not true that Germany splits Jews up into good (conformal) and bad (resisting). Almost all were sometimes praised and sometimes rejected or both at the same time by different people.
Too many Germans got their feefees hurt in the comment section lol
99% of Israelis are Hasbara Trolls. Ignore them.
Nonsense. Germans who would be hurt by this, by the truth, won't ever know there is a channel like this. They are watching German state TV news. I won'I won't make it through 3 minutes of these "news".
Sounds a bit like mansplaining feminism to women
you cannot make this up
Gaza is starving
It literally isn't.
Germany just need to embrace a woke language and it will be simple. "Das Mann und das Frau sahen das Jungen."
“The man and the woman saw the cub” is how it translates 😂
@@Cnichal google translate doesn't care much for grammatical errors. I made the sentence to be gender neutral, the right sentence would be "Der Mann und die Frau sahen den Jungen."
In german, you use gender specific articles "der, die, das" instead of "a, the".
In all you have to put either "der, ein, die, eine, das, ein, den, einen, die, eine, das, ein, dem, einem, der, einer, dem, einem, des, eines, der, einer, des, eines" in front of a word depending what gender it is and if you have one or more of it.
You could make it a much easier language if everything was "das", meaning gender unspecific.
We damand that you speak perfectly? Never noticed that here anywhere, we germans don't mind accents.
Thank you for confirming that Jews are safe just like most people are.
Isn't that self-evident? Jews are the most privileged people in the West. Even in the face of genocide, they're still almost untouchable.
I prefer to become a Muslim than convert to the dreaded Judaism.
what is she talking about? I live in Germany, I don't see ANYTHING of what she tells. Is she payed by Hamas?
From Germany: I don't see the first point Iris Hefets makes. As a nurse or a physician working in a country you have to communicate with the patients. Many of the elderly people in Germany don't speak English. Some of the nurses who come from Russia don't speak English either. So, you have to have a sufficient knowledge of the German language in order to work in the German health sector. You must be able to communicate with patients and colleagues. I'd wish there were more German language courses for health workers during the working hours in order to help people coming to my country.
And there are a lot of ppl that learn the language..
@@michellescholz3016 That's correct, Michelle. I work in language classes for migrants at a vocational school.
Nurses are quitting or going part-time in droves, because the health sector pay is so shitty and working conditions are horrible. Of course Filipino nurses rather go to Dubai, and don't want to become low wage slaves in Germany, lol. We could activate a quite large group of former nurses, if we would implement a minimum wage. But no, that would be too expensive for the corporations that are trying to squeeze the last Euro out of our elderly. It's sickening.
@@tom_hagen1972
classic "We need more immigration so we have people that we can treat like sh... to fill the jobs that natives don't want to do anymore because we treated them like sh..."
That makes perfect sense: I'd want my nurse to be able to communicate with me fluently in English, so it only stands to reason that German people need German-speaking nurses!
Mansplaining on steroids. Just way, way worse.
Jewsplaining on Steroids. Hasbara at maximum output.
It could help her to consult with a men-tall health specialist.
No kidding, I have gone to a local restaurant here in Germany to find a customer, recently back from a vacation, giving a slideshow summary of his vacation to the other diners. I don't remember how many "also's" there were in his lecture.
So … German Protestants aren't converting to Judaism "for the jokes," like Jerry Seinfeld's dentist did?
I'd bet they are mostly opportunists who converted for the higher social status of being a (conformist) Jew in Germany.
Ask yourself what semitism is instead of letting intruders you’ve made leave before for their abhorrent behavior redefine your language in your homeland.
Iris is giving a long winded answer for Zionism vs Antizionism. That's what it boils down to.
IF so, where is the Pro-Truth czar?
Health insurance is still better in Germany than in US, even if the politics are going in the wrong direction-
oh well done, for finding a jew to explain what jew hatred is to other jews
Brava
Why dont you take the migrants with you to israel and you can support them
as a german i never heard "luftgeschäft" perhaps she meant "luftschloss" or something
She said it is a Yiddish word. But it is used in German as well, you'll find it on dwds
@@chrisko6439 ok thx for the info
uhum ze raycism is such an issue that I moved to Börlean
How many times does Germany plan on being wrong in this century? 🙄
Recommended listening :-
Lamis Deek Palestinian American Attorney on George Galloway's Mother of All Talk Shows. Aired yesterday.
First time I hear someone accurately describing Germany. This honesty is what they're afraid of!
I don't wanna hear the guilt argument anymore, states don't feel guilt.
You may not like to hear it, but collective Guilt is still a big factor among germans..and of course they, israel and germany, have huge trading agreements especially in the arms industry, so a lot of financial ties. These two countries deserve each other, ugly societies dressed up as tollerant and progressive.
@@florafauna5883 Does the German state feel collective guilt for Namibia? Or even LGBTQIA, Gypsy people like the Roma & Sinti, and many more. I don't see the German state policy supporting the right of all these people to colo,nize and make new ethnocracies. There's no consistency in this guilt story. States don't "feel" anything. Some German people do feel this I'm not denying, but guilt has never been a real state policy.
I believe it's all about mutual interests. There are still to this day American miltary bases and troops in Germamy, thousands of them. When Biden promised to stop Nordstream, the main artery to German industries, in front of chancellor Scholz. He didn't say one word. If the Germam state is willing to halt its industrial sector to conform to American policy, I'm afraid it also cannot have an independent opinion on isn'treal, zinoism or any of that. Gives a whole new meaning to Scholz's recent statement "Raison d'être", right? Germany might not continue to exist if it ever tries to take an oppositional stance against US policy.
Germany is under US occupation since WW2 and they will do what Washington tells them to do just as most EU vassals.
Pfff, when we think that we have heard it all, someone "clever" has something new and dumn to say... this is a new form of mansplaining
can she help to answer why they lie too much?...
Who is "they"?
Deutschsplaining..?
We don't have enough psychotherapists because health insurance limits the number of therapists that can bill public insurances (without a lot of bureaucracy) in each region. The number of these licenses have been calculated quite a while ago when there was much less demand. It's not that difficult to find somebody if you pay out of pocket, but since it should be covered by insurance people don't. Also, psychotherapists have high fees which is because it's so regulated that there is not that much supply (there is enough, but not to the point where they would be forced to decrease prices) and more importantly, many therapists start working with debts or having invested a lot of money. I have yet to hear of psychotherapy places being shut due to antisemitism accusations. Other places have been shutdown and it's a disgrace. But the connection she makes is off.
Also, Berlin is different from other parts of Germany in many ways. Psychotherapy is one such way in which Berlin is different from the rest.
Iris Hefets for Bundeskanzlerin!
She wouldn't be a good representative of us Gemans. The politicians at the top definitely are. We get what we deserve, liars, opportunists, morons, like us.
Why are people calling people tzars now? I've seen it a few times and from context i think it means expert consultant but in a derogatory fashion to draw comparisons to russia & oligarchy. Is that correct or is this an actual title people are given and that's somehow missed me for 30 years?
"...but in a derogatory fashion to draw comparisons to russia & oligarchy"
Close, but not necessarily in the derogatory sense. The word "tzar" is used to suggest that the person has broad authority and control over a specific area, reflecting a high level of responsibility and power. It's a nod to the historical Russian emperors who wielded extensive power, implying that the role involves significant influence and oversight.
You can see exactly why Germany gave us the horrors of WW2. Nothing has really changed.
Churchill said USA+UK+ France caused WW2. Not Germany.
@@GARRY3754 you are not wrong. It’s just that the German state is the most methodical and its people probably the most compliant in the process.
Jesus ,Katie halper has cultivated an audience of dimwits.. This is one of the most demented comment sections you can find anywhere on left wing youtube
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Wow wow wow
Nobody demands that you speak perfect German. Germans don't even expect foreigners to speak German at all.. What a nonsensical thing to say... I don't think she could have possibly said anything profound about germany, after that
Are you even in Germany? As a matter of fact critisism of German speaking skills are used quite generally in politics and media and society to denounce migrants as a group.
@@sakha2349 yes I am living in germany and show me the example of missing german skills being used TO DENOUNCE MIGRANTS AS A GROUP. And I'm not talking about calling non-existing german language skills, for people who have been here for decades, an example of a lack of integration or even the will for it. That's clearly not what the lady talked about.. You're just beyond dishonest
Dishonest? Don't you have any contact with the media, don't you hear right wing politics? Or even just certain sections of the public that think people just dont want to integrate? Maybe you don't hear or see because of your background? I dont know you so I can't judge.
You are absolutely right. I don't expect people to speak my language perfectly - but when I go to a therapist or an MD I want to be understood fully and with all the nuances my language offers - just to be sure.....I think I am not expecting too much
@theoderich1168 - just the fact you have this expectation shows your bias in believing that there may be people who don't want to speak your language well. Have you ever been to a professional and not been understood or not not understood your MD or therapist? German media and political arrogance actually knows no boundaries when it comes to migrants. They make the 'People' believe there are big problems where there aren't.
Netanyahu went to Germany with the message that the Mufti (read Palestinians, read Muslims) committed the holocaust, not Hitler, not the Germans.
This is off course insulting nonsense. Millions of Muslims fought against the antisemitic Nazis during WW2.
But many Germans were relieved that according to Netanyahyu Grandfather was not so bad after all. And they can bash the muslims, and meanwhile think they are doing OK because they are defending Israel, which means the Jews. It is disgusting. The founders of Israel Irgun, Haganah, Lechi fought the UK during WW2, which was the enemy of Nazi Germany. Some of the Zionists cooperated with Nazi Germany directly. Thanks to Arab Legion which supported the UK army in Palestine, UK troops could fight at another front (The Nazi front in Europe) and end the holocaust. Thus: The Founders of Israel lengthened the holocaust. Muslims stopped it.
*The matter at hand, dear sir, is rather elementary. Germany, in its infinite wisdom, cannot bear to witness the downfall of Israel, for it shudders at the very thought of Jews once more residing within its borders. The depth of racial prejudice in Germany is, alas, quite profound.*
The title would be complete if it continued: …and inadvertently illustrates antisemitism in action
Hmmm Germany always on the wrong side of the holocausts.
Did she say there are no Jews in the German army now?
I bet she didn’t know there were 150,000 Jewish soldiers during WW2?
Yup, and she didn’t know everything that she learned about the war was a lie.
Eric Arthur Blair really lived in Orwellian times. We thought he was writing a fictional novel warning us about the future. He was writing an historical novel warning us about the past.
Jewish soldiers in ww2?
@@RobHelI think the OP means WW1
@@sakha2349 yeah, I think so as well...
@@RobHel I think she's referring to Zionists who worked with Nazis back in the day.
@@sakha2349
нет, ты не правельно думаешь. это в не первую мировую войну. это все, именно во вторую мировую войну.
а именно,150 000 евреев служили в СС.
но, один ушлый народ, всеми силами старатеся это скрыть от мира. а ютуб и прочие фейсбуки, стараются помочь им скрыть правду об этих 150 000 евреях, которые служили в СС
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Jews complaining about unreal Jews? What?!
pretending they are against their own personal and collective interests to protect their personal and collective image and to deflect from the real issue
What, what?
Sorry that the ideas of ethnicity vs religion, indigenous land vs colonialism/apartheid and caring for people (Jews) while despising corrupt political projects (Zionism) is still SO hard for you to grasp. Don't hurt yourself. Take a break.
@@questioneverything1682 Frankly, "Jewish ethnicity" is fiction. There is no "Muslim ethnicity". No "Christian ethnicity". No "Buddhist ethnicity."
It is the assertion of a "Jewish ethnicity" that leads Zionists to say that Israel is the country of the "Jewish people."
Sick of the land of the na zis!