Your entire series of tarp configurations is remarkable. Hats off to you, and thanks so much for putting the time and dedication in to share these videos with us all. Much appreciated!
I used this Strong Hexamid set-up in the mountains one very windy night after I saw your original video. I staked the loops directly to the ground without string, and kept the entry flaps inside. Saved my butt from a bad night. Otherwise I would have used my tarp as a bivvy bag by making a bed roll around my sleeping bag. I tip my hiking hat to you, sir.
Used this pitch last year along the Cornish coastline with my multicam 3 × 3 after watching your previous video with porch facing the sea, it was small unobtrusive and blended in well with the Rocky surroundings, always a pleasure watching, thanks
Hello from CA. You nailed the concept of a porch. Fantastic! The only thing I did that was slightly different was to widen out the 2 tie outs adjacent to the closable door. This made a larger footprint and a lower but permanent porch. Your pitch is certainly superior in bad weather. Excellent work on the video.
Hi Patrick, Yes that is a good idea. If you pitch, already knowing that you want the porch permanent then you should do this for sure. If you think you want to close it down in the night then the option I showed is better, because you don't want to go restaking in the dark... Thanks for your comment! Papa hiker
Papa's right, this is a strong set-up, excellent in stormy and/or windy conditions. He's also correct when he says that there's a bit of a learning curve to getting a decent pitch, more than some other set-ups, granted, but not impossible for someone with just a little tarp experience. What struck me, though, was how long it took me to rig the tarp in the outdoors; in fact rigging took longer than pitching. It uses eight guylines and a further two to close the doors. What this means is that you really need to go out with the intention of using this pitch and rig the tarp beforehand at home. If you set up a fairweather lean-to and then see a storm coming in, it'll take you quite a while to rig the hexamid. and by then it might be too late. Also, I admit I didn't sleep in it but I'm guessing it might suffer from condensation, being fully enclosed. But if it's blowing a hoolie outside that could be the least of your concerns.
Hi Weeringjohnny, thanks for your comment. These are super valid remarks. I personally am (apparently) weird fast at rigging. This is because I do it a lot, but also because of my beloved mini carabiners. But it is for sure good that people realise this. Have a great time, Papa hiker
Dear papa hiker. Awsome video. It would be helpful if you place in the upper left corner of your tutorial a diagram (schema) that goes along with your pitching instructions ...😀
Brilliant video. It's the pitch of yours I'm most intrigued by. Would love to see a similar video on the toque tent, tetra wedge& modified A frame using the 10x10 if those pitches are even worthwhile with a square tarp. They look great but make me unsure whether I want a solo tarp or 10x10 😅🤷♂️🤦♂️
Love this I'm 6'2", and i think if weather was bad I wouldn't want to be lying straight in it - with the centre pole at an angle, I can lie slightly diagonally, which gives a better distance between head/feet and the edges Maybe I set it up with the pole too high , will have to try a few more times see if I can stretch it out
You think you could work on a design that uses a tripod to keep it up? For the sake of not kicking out/rolling over the pole, also more perceived inside space
This is an excellent video. I've seen you do this pitch in older vids but the added explanations here make it's benefits more clear. Where I am, spring and summer storms can get extremely windy and the wind can reverse as the storm passes over. By having the flaps tied inside instead of outside you can adjust for that without going out and getting wet. The way our storms are here most of the simple tarp pitches will not keep you dry and many cannot handle the winds, so this pitch is of great value and I must try it when winter is gone. The only issue I might have is that along with wind comes much heavy rain and it would be hard to form a ground sheet into a 'bathtub' to keep the water away. Do you have any ideas on easier ways to do this instead of trying to keep the edges lifted with small sticks pushed into the ground? Very glad to have you back making videos regularly again!
Hi P RO! Great comment and question. My suggestion for the ground sheet would be: Make a bathtub groundsheet out of your existing one by sowing the four corners together. Then it is easy: you just pile some gear or rocks in the four corners (on the inside) and your bathtub can not collapse anymore. It would sadly turn your ground sheet from a multi-use item into a specialised one, but that seems worth it in your conditions? Let me know how you fare with the hex next summer! Kind regards, Papa hiker
Hi Papa hiker, could you please give me an advice? Building this tarp in strong wind is really painful; it's pretty tall, yet very weak in early stage of building. It's stabilized once fully built, but fragile until then. However, I wouldn't build this pitch unless I had to, because of condensation. So there is a big chance I will build this pitch mostly in very windy weather, which will make every building an awful time. I just tried, it's windy but nothing like mountain-crazy, and I wasn't even able to build it! Have you experienced this, please? Could you please show us how do you build it in nonideal conditions? It doesn't make sense if I can't build it in harsh conditions, where it's supposed to serve. I will try my best many more times, but I wanted to ask. Thank you very much for your videos, I learned so much! EDIT: I just watched Paul Messner's way of building your pitch. It seems easier, but definitely not solving this problem; If I had all this vertical area hanging from the pole pitched by 4 pegs and oriented so that backdoor (aka the largest area) is facing wind, the pole will fall down, breaking the whole procedure. It has to be done differently. Tying up pole handle to the center seems like a good start, but those tarp materials are sooo slippery... I will give it a try.
Hello Senior Hiker, I agree that it is kind of complicated. In a couple of weeks I will upload a video on the Trail Tent. It is a pitch related to the hex with the 3*3 tarp that is easier to do and easy to use. I guess that you will still find it not as straightforward as the V fly, but maybe an alternative. Kind regards and happy camping! Papa hiker
Just curious if you have ever used cheap hardware store tarps. I have a couple hammock tarps that are cut on the caternary for strength and I just got a free soldier tarp recently. Looking forward to trying some of these pitches! Thank you sir!!
Hi Notquiteultralight! I did use cheap tarps. What I find is that they work just fine when they're new. But, the material deteriorates quickly and then you get rips (bad for you) and start shedding microplastics all over the tundra (bad for the lemmings). So, moved on to shinier stuff.
@@papahiker9014 A regular bucket here holds two English gallons, or very close to nine litres. A centibucket would therefore be 91ml: 3-4 espressos or a very small china tea-cup.
woh woh oh no! Furlongs are not metric. We have meters and millimeters etc. I was using the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFF_system in which speed is measured in furlongs per fortnight, obvi.
Hi thegroove! Maybe you like this one better: ua-cam.com/video/MLlpSs9Dj3g/v-deo.html it sacrifices just a little stability for a serious increase in practicality. Kind regards, Papa hiker
Your entire series of tarp configurations is remarkable. Hats off to you, and thanks so much for putting the time and dedication in to share these videos with us all. Much appreciated!
You are the best at tarps. No one is better than you.
I used this Strong Hexamid set-up in the mountains one very windy night after I saw your original video. I staked the loops directly to the ground without string, and kept the entry flaps inside. Saved my butt from a bad night. Otherwise I would have used my tarp as a bivvy bag by making a bed roll around my sleeping bag. I tip my hiking hat to you, sir.
Hello Brandon! Excellent news. Good to hear your butt was saved :-)
Thanks for the conversion to millifurlongs! I always have problems with meters and feet.
You're welcome! Have a demipint!
These are great videos. I love your diagrams you make sometimes, very easy to follow. I wish there was an app of those diagrams.
Hello Doug! Thanks, I will keep in mind that people like them.
Kind regards papa hiker
This is tarpochology science. Thanks for these awesome how-to-videos. You are taking it to the next level.
Thanks Bowdrillaz! Next level is where we want to be :-). But also old school.
Great to hear from you again Papa Hiker! Thanks for the video, perfect guide to setup this superior fold!
Thanks Holger!
Used this pitch last year along the Cornish coastline with my multicam 3 × 3 after watching your previous video with porch facing the sea, it was small unobtrusive and blended in well with the Rocky surroundings, always a pleasure watching, thanks
Nice! That must have been a good photograph too.
Kind regards, Papa hiker
You make it look so easy but I’m sure it will take a while to learn with practice.
Delighted to see the Tarp Maestro producing more tarp videos.
Thanks Rob, there is much more coming actually. Kind regards, Papa hiker
Great to hear from you again. Thank you for this great video. The most intriguing tarp pitch ever.
Thanks Fabrice!
Hello from CA. You nailed the concept of a porch. Fantastic! The only thing I did that was slightly different was to widen out the 2 tie outs adjacent to the closable door. This made a larger footprint and a lower but permanent porch. Your pitch is certainly superior in bad weather. Excellent work on the video.
Hi Patrick,
Yes that is a good idea. If you pitch, already knowing that you want the porch permanent then you should do this for sure.
If you think you want to close it down in the night then the option I showed is better, because you don't want to go restaking in the dark...
Thanks for your comment! Papa hiker
A number of great designs and also a great number of designs.
:-)
Last week i just use this pitch
Its amazing
Thank you for the vidoe
Thank you Keramas!
You can also do a lengthwise hexamid (very similar to your lengthwise pyramid) to give yourself more legroom!
Papa's right, this is a strong set-up, excellent in stormy and/or windy conditions. He's also correct when he says that there's a bit of a learning curve to getting a decent pitch, more than some other set-ups, granted, but not impossible for someone with just a little tarp experience. What struck me, though, was how long it took me to rig the tarp in the outdoors; in fact rigging took longer than pitching. It uses eight guylines and a further two to close the doors. What this means is that you really need to go out with the intention of using this pitch and rig the tarp beforehand at home. If you set up a fairweather lean-to and then see a storm coming in, it'll take you quite a while to rig the hexamid. and by then it might be too late. Also, I admit I didn't sleep in it but I'm guessing it might suffer from condensation, being fully enclosed. But if it's blowing a hoolie outside that could be the least of your concerns.
Hi Weeringjohnny, thanks for your comment. These are super valid remarks. I personally am (apparently) weird fast at rigging. This is because I do it a lot, but also because of my beloved mini carabiners. But it is for sure good that people realise this. Have a great time, Papa hiker
Dear papa hiker. Awsome video. It would be helpful if you place in the upper left corner of your tutorial a diagram (schema) that goes along with your pitching instructions ...😀
Real helpful to practice one of the best bad weather pitches. Thank you Papa Hiker!
Hi Slow Fox, yes it is. I encourage everybody to get some back yard pitching practice in. Kind regards, Papa hiker
Thanks for showing us, looks nice. Take care.
Thank you papa hiker,
I will try this pitching
Good luck!
Thanks for sharing this nice tarp setup.
Welcome Bandicut!
Great video on Bitching a tarp.
*Wow. This is a big help😊 perfect guide for me. Thanks to this video❤❤❤❤*
Great! Happy to help :-)
@@papahiker9014 ❤
Brilliant video. It's the pitch of yours I'm most intrigued by. Would love to see a similar video on the toque tent, tetra wedge& modified A frame using the 10x10 if those pitches are even worthwhile with a square tarp. They look great but make me unsure whether I want a solo tarp or 10x10 😅🤷♂️🤦♂️
Hey Synthesis! I was thinking of doing a video on the toque tent, so maybe that will happen in the following months.
Happy camping! Papa hiker
Excellent Video !!! Many Thanks !!!
Heel goed Meneer! De groeten van Java, Indonesia!
Great video, I see one of your tarp pitches ended up in the trees, that must have been one windy night!!
Haha, yes, that one covers a tree platform. The kids do actually sleep up there sometimes. Hooting owls and all, awesome stuff!
Love this
I'm 6'2", and i think if weather was bad I wouldn't want to be lying straight in it - with the centre pole at an angle, I can lie slightly diagonally, which gives a better distance between head/feet and the edges
Maybe I set it up with the pole too high , will have to try a few more times see if I can stretch it out
Hi David, I like this one with an inverted V in the middle. Kind regards Papa hiker
Where is papa I wish he'd do a vid on the TNT ultra 9x9 or 10x10
Might use that tonight 🏕 excellent 👍
Awesome. Tried it yet?
Yes mate love it should of done better with my tie outs though but excellent shelter 👍
You were prior to ' a break', this reinforces the fact that indeed you still are: duh- MAN :) thanks
You think you could work on a design that uses a tripod to keep it up? For the sake of not kicking out/rolling over the pole, also more perceived inside space
Good video; thanks.
This is an excellent video. I've seen you do this pitch in older vids but the added explanations here make it's benefits more clear. Where I am, spring and summer storms can get extremely windy and the wind can reverse as the storm passes over. By having the flaps tied inside instead of outside you can adjust for that without going out and getting wet. The way our storms are here most of the simple tarp pitches will not keep you dry and many cannot handle the winds, so this pitch is of great value and I must try it when winter is gone.
The only issue I might have is that along with wind comes much heavy rain and it would be hard to form a ground sheet into a 'bathtub' to keep the water away. Do you have any ideas on easier ways to do this instead of trying to keep the edges lifted with small sticks pushed into the ground?
Very glad to have you back making videos regularly again!
Hi P RO! Great comment and question. My suggestion for the ground sheet would be: Make a bathtub groundsheet out of your existing one by sowing the four corners together. Then it is easy: you just pile some gear or rocks in the four corners (on the inside) and your bathtub can not collapse anymore. It would sadly turn your ground sheet from a multi-use item into a specialised one, but that seems worth it in your conditions?
Let me know how you fare with the hex next summer! Kind regards, Papa hiker
Good video , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Thanks Michael!
Very detailed, thanks for sharing.
Watched it twice already! Millifurlong, ha ha ha!
Just checked, 6 millifurlongs = 120.7008 cm. Amazing!
NICE!!! Thanks yes, I would obviously not mix up my millifurlongs and microyards. :-)
I used this pitch in a rainstorm. I stayed completely dry & protected from wind.
Hi Onni, Excellent news, you from Finland?
Kind regards, Papa hiker
@@papahiker9014 Yes I'm from Finland! :)
Hi Papa hiker, could you please give me an advice? Building this tarp in strong wind is really painful; it's pretty tall, yet very weak in early stage of building. It's stabilized once fully built, but fragile until then. However, I wouldn't build this pitch unless I had to, because of condensation. So there is a big chance I will build this pitch mostly in very windy weather, which will make every building an awful time. I just tried, it's windy but nothing like mountain-crazy, and I wasn't even able to build it!
Have you experienced this, please? Could you please show us how do you build it in nonideal conditions? It doesn't make sense if I can't build it in harsh conditions, where it's supposed to serve. I will try my best many more times, but I wanted to ask.
Thank you very much for your videos, I learned so much!
EDIT: I just watched Paul Messner's way of building your pitch. It seems easier, but definitely not solving this problem; If I had all this vertical area hanging from the pole pitched by 4 pegs and oriented so that backdoor (aka the largest area) is facing wind, the pole will fall down, breaking the whole procedure. It has to be done differently. Tying up pole handle to the center seems like a good start, but those tarp materials are sooo slippery... I will give it a try.
Outstanding.
Thank you.
Very interesting but to complicated for me. Nice information.ATB
Hello Senior Hiker, I agree that it is kind of complicated. In a couple of weeks I will upload a video on the Trail Tent. It is a pitch related to the hex with the 3*3 tarp that is easier to do and easy to use. I guess that you will still find it not as straightforward as the V fly, but maybe an alternative. Kind regards and happy camping! Papa hiker
Brilliany, thx 🙏
Would this work with the XL tarp (4.5mx3m)?
Just curious if you have ever used cheap hardware store tarps. I have a couple hammock tarps that are cut on the caternary for strength and I just got a free soldier tarp recently. Looking forward to trying some of these pitches! Thank you sir!!
Hi Notquiteultralight! I did use cheap tarps. What I find is that they work just fine when they're new. But, the material deteriorates quickly and then you get rips (bad for you) and start shedding microplastics all over the tundra (bad for the lemmings). So, moved on to shinier stuff.
@@papahiker9014 makes sense!🙂👍🏼
Bonus for dimensions in milli-furlongs.
Thank you Steve. Next step is measuring rain in centibuckets.
@@papahiker9014 A regular bucket here holds two English gallons, or very close to nine litres. A centibucket would therefore be 91ml: 3-4 espressos or a very small china tea-cup.
Notification Squad!
Be a nice place to catch rain water for drinking
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Would the set up be same with 4x4m dd tarp
Hey Piston broke, Yes, for sure. But you need a pretty long pole.
Kind regards papa hiker
Metric system snobbery incoming at 1:50. "Six millifurlongs"...you magnificent ass.
woh woh oh no! Furlongs are not metric. We have meters and millimeters etc. I was using the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFF_system
in which speed is measured in furlongs per fortnight, obvi.
6 millyfurlongs? Lol😂
Here is the hexamid from a 4x4 meter tarp ua-cam.com/video/bfpDJlPaQ5I/v-deo.html thanks for the inspiration papahiker!
Hey I checked it out, nice work! Great size, the 4*4
Fantastic but not very practical.
Hi thegroove! Maybe you like this one better: ua-cam.com/video/MLlpSs9Dj3g/v-deo.html
it sacrifices just a little stability for a serious increase in practicality.
Kind regards, Papa hiker
Awful set up,
Hello Steven,
Always interested in criticism! Please specify what you don't like about this? Thanks, Papa hiker