The best Rochester. Word for word from the book. He is passionate, watch this time and again. Timothy Dalton is a wonderful actor, and interprets the part to perfection.
Yes, TD is a superb actor. Though the book presents Rochester as an "ugly man", why Celine Varens and Blanche Ingram were purely after his money. But allowances can be made in film making i guess. :)
Dalton is mesmerizing. The dialogue in this version is stupendous and his delivery, his speech is above all other versions. I also appreciated that this version had Jane’s thoughts spoken out loud.
I am very taken by his interpretstion. A perfect rrading. All of the man who is quirky as hell comes out Had a handsome husband with an even better voice. i am enjoying this discussion. Liked Orson Welles also
My fav Rochester! I love this version and it has been my favorite through the years. I love to hear Timothy talk. Zelah is very good as well. TV ministries are the best way to cover these classic tales.
The into music tugs at the heart, doesn't it? I listen to it and imagine Jane and Edward growing older, having grandchildren, passing away and life carrying on, their story told by their offspring when electric light is commonplace. And such a feeling takes over me....
I love how easily he is able to confide in her because he knows Jane won't judge him. Thanks for posting these. I love to be able to go to all the Jane/ Rochester interaction.
"I like this day. I like this sky of steel." (2:05) What he makes of that line, unmemorable in the book. From a cherished person, the anticipated condemnation doesn't come, and he feels a momentary exultation.
Уважаемый Тимати Далтон,пишу ниначто не надеясь,смотрю фильм понескольку раз в день,каждый раз сожалею,что в моей жизни не случилось увидеть Вас и Зелу Кларк,вживую,Вы замечательные оба,в фильме веришь Вам,он захватывает ,большое ,огромное спасибо Вам,за Ваш талант,с уважением из России Татьяна
Notice how he allows her to keep sitting. Servants should always know their place. I know Jane was quite confused at the "equal" way he was treating her.
This was the part they did greatly well, was keeping the way the actual culture of that time thought and acted, and, she was in a quandary with it, trying to honor it, yet chafing against it too...
It's interesting how this version seems to give the impression Adele is Rochester's daughter. That's what one automatically assumes based on what he says, and it's not contested, unlike in other versions. Not in this scene, anyway. Btw I love Dalton's acting, there are so many facets and nuances to it. Here he shows Rochester's thoughtful, melancholic side.
Adele is not his daughter seriously. Her mom was one of Rochester’s lovers. Adele’s personality is way too shallow to be his. But his caring for Adele showing his kindness.
И я смотрю уже много лет. Смотрю на немецком, который они прекрасно дублировали и на английском в оригинале. Это вообще класс- у Тимоти прекрасный голос, у ЗИЛы тоже. Лучше любых переводчиков
@@maineclayton2419 Except for the physical aspect. The book presents Rochester as an "ugly man", why Celine Varens and Blanche Ingram were purely after his money. But allowances can be made in film making i guess. :)
@@janeeyre-quotes I suppose the staff in some "Jane Eyre" adaptations were terrified to hire actors who closely resembles to what the novels says about Mr. Rochester and Jane. As for Dalton, his looks tend to be distracting but his interpretation of the character he played was well-done. He knew when to be emotional without being over the top too much.
Govrrness was game to the master of the house.The Ingrahmes were on the mark. Jane was exceptionaly intelligent which attracted him. She was almost his equall in his mind. He wanted understanding and explained his nature to a very moral 18 year old.
Далтон всю жизнь гулял,изменял,бросал К 50годам растеряв свой былой лоск ,решил завести семью Он выбрал вторую Селину Варанс История с ней закончилась также как в книге На таких, как Джейн он не смотрел Он заслужил эту Селину Варанс
👍Prrrecisely! ✝️ A major part of the prolife stance. The baby, 😇 whatever the manner of its conception, "is not answerable for her mother's faults nor yours, sir."🤰🤱🌹✝️
I feel as if he baited her to see if she would be a good mother. when he says thank you in the end I got more of that feeling. I could be wrong though.
In chepter15, he said:'I know what sort of a mind I have placed in communication with my own: I know it is one not liable to take infection: it is a peculiar mind: it is a unique one. Happily I do not mean to harm it: but, if I did, it would not take harm from me. The more you and I converse, the better; for while I cannot blight you, you may refresh me.' So, maybe he 'thanks' about himself.
I think all these are insightful comments, I think it is all of it, some baiting and testing out of his own fear, and some relieved gratitude for her responsive goodness to him and his predicament....
I think he felt somewhat embarrassed for being too presumptuous in regard to Jane, then finally realizing that its not just about him, but the innocent-helpless-parentless Adele.
ME ENCANTA ESTA PELÍCULA O SERIE ME ENAMORA TIMOTHY DALTON Y ME ENCANTA ZELA CLARK MAGNÍFICOS LOS DOS EL ÚNICO FALLO QUE LE ENCONTRE FUE EL FINAL ME GUSTARÍA CON UN POCO MAS DE CHISPA CON MAS BESOS MÁS ROMÁNTICO PERO NO ES CULPA DE LOS PROTAGONISTAS ES CULPA DEL DIRECTOR Y SI NO LE LLEGABA CON EL CAPÍTULO NÚMERO 11 HACER UN CAPITULO MAS Y POR LO MENOS UN FINAL MAS LINDO DE TODAS MANERAS A MI ECANTA ESTA SERIE Y ME ENCANTA ESTA PAREJA TIMOTHY DALTON Y ZELA CLARK .
Yes, cruel to Blanche and Jane as well. He would never marry Blanche and only martied Jane because she was too moral to become his mistress. He was trapped by the rules of his time.
So, wait, is Adele his daughter, or Celine's daughter with another man? That was never clarified. I haven't touched the book since i was 11. Can anyone tell me?
In the novel, Celine claims that Adele is Mr. Rochester's daughter but the latter denies it. Jane mentioned in the novel that Adele and Mr. Rochester don't share any of their resemblance implying that they're not related after all. In this version, there's an implication that Adele is Mr. Rochester's biological child but in reality it forgot to put some lines in the script where Mr. Rochester denies that he and Celine bore a child. Mr. Rochester doesn't seem too cruel towards Adele and he tried to have a conversation with her at least a little.
@@maineclayton2419 True. And this shows that Rochester has a good heart too - adopting Adele and bringing her to England "to grow up clean in the wholesome soil of an English country garden." (Chapter 15). :)
@@janeeyre-quotes I heard from a certain "Jane Eyre" podcast explained the reason why Mr. Rochester sent Adele to England is that she doesn't want to be like her mother who turns out to be a prostitute. Back in the 19th century, many ballerinas in France worked as a prostitute as their side-line and Celine is one of them. Mr. Rochester was naive to figure out that Celine loves him for his money and it was part of her job in working on a shady business. It was understandable why he had to make Adele move away from that terrible situation.
@@maineclayton2419Could be. But Rochester's reason wasn't really stated in the book except that since Celine was claiming that he's the father, then he might have felt obligated to take Adele. However, there's really no proof that he IS the father. And as he said in the book, he finds absolutely no resemblance between him and Adele and he highly doubts that he is the father.
Если Вы помните книгу мистер Рочестер рассказал Джейн о своей страсти к французской танцовщице Селин. Она якобы сказала, что Адель - его ребенок. Но Рочестер очень сомневался в этом и сказал, что он с годами находит все меньше общих черт с девочкой. Скорее всего ребенок не его, так считал сам Рочестер
Dalton is acting for the stage. He's a very similar performer to Lawrence Olivier... over annunciation, highly theatrical and very technical. My apologies to those who love his performance, but I find it very distancing and not terribly moving.
He is my Rochester, but I understand your point. I think he was trained as a classical actor, I also believe he had to overact at times to compensate for the coldness of Zelah (yes, I find her cold). Pity, for me, he could not have been paired with a different actress as Jane: maybe he would have delivered differently, especially in the proposal and leaving scenes
You’re absolutely right, and also both Olivier and Dalton have strong features, ideal for the stage, not as much for TV. But aren’t they so spot on with the tone they use in their phrases, honouring the English language and meanwhile stressing the hero’s thoughts and feelings through recitation? I used to push Oliviers performances away and then in an interview I realised he is a genius and a genuine servant of drama. A very multiverse man and a teacher. That is my humble opinion.
The best Rochester. Word for word from the book. He is passionate, watch this time and again. Timothy Dalton is a wonderful actor, and interprets the part to perfection.
Yes, TD is a superb actor. Though the book presents Rochester as an "ugly man", why Celine Varens and Blanche Ingram were purely after his money. But allowances can be made in film making i guess. :)
He's not even "TV ugly," just straight smokeshow ;)
I wondered, how book accurate this was. The prose is pretty amazing, even if it strays.
I’ve been watching for about 30 years.. great movie couple
Dalton is mesmerizing. The dialogue in this version is stupendous and his delivery, his speech is above all other versions. I also appreciated that this version had Jane’s thoughts spoken out loud.
I am very taken by his interpretstion.
A perfect rrading. All of the man who is quirky as hell comes out
Had a handsome husband with an even better voice.
i am enjoying this discussion.
Liked Orson Welles also
@@anne-no2ic I really liked Orson Welles, too. Lucky you that you had a husband like that.
Yes,Orson Wells,and,Timothy, Dalton,were,the,best,Mr.Rochester, just like the,Book,both,Great,actors.❤
My fav Rochester! I love this version and it has been my favorite through the years. I love to hear Timothy talk. Zelah is very good as well. TV ministries are the best way to cover these classic tales.
The into music tugs at the heart, doesn't it? I listen to it and imagine Jane and Edward growing older, having grandchildren, passing away and life carrying on, their story told by their offspring when electric light is commonplace. And such a feeling takes over me....
The best Jane Eyre ...the best Rochester....so handsome...
I agree👍l like him very much😍
I love how easily he is able to confide in her because he knows Jane won't judge him. Thanks for posting these. I love to be able to go to all the Jane/ Rochester interaction.
Edward fell in love at first sight when Jane encountered him on the moor.
Best Rochester... I love Timothy....too handsome
I agree❤️🙆
"I like this day. I like this sky of steel." (2:05)
What he makes of that line, unmemorable in the book.
From a cherished person, the anticipated condemnation doesn't come, and he feels a momentary exultation.
Timothy Dalton is a magnificent actor.
❤ I want to see them. After they get married. This story should be longer.
My fave version!
Mine too. Rehana from pakistan
England’s countryside is very beautiful
ティモシーダルトン素敵すぎる❗しかもジェーンに一目惚れだったなんてドラマチック❤️DVDで何回も観てしまいます🎵
"I like this sky of steel" *flashes his steely grey beams* 😍 😂
Уважаемый Тимати Далтон,пишу ниначто не надеясь,смотрю фильм понескольку раз в день,каждый раз сожалею,что в моей жизни не случилось увидеть Вас и Зелу Кларк,вживую,Вы замечательные оба,в фильме веришь Вам,он захватывает ,большое ,огромное спасибо Вам,за Ваш талант,с уважением из России Татьяна
Love this version..
Notice how he allows her to keep sitting. Servants should always know their place. I know Jane was quite confused at the "equal" way he was treating her.
This was the part they did greatly well, was keeping the way the actual culture of that time thought and acted, and, she was in a quandary with it, trying to honor it, yet chafing against it too...
Ah, I'd missed that. Helpful, thanks.
The best Jane Eyre in my opinion.
Absolutely!!
Plz tell me adeile was Mr Rochester illligemitat daughter
Самый лучший и самый любимый , актеры не играют а живут
It's interesting how this version seems to give the impression Adele is Rochester's daughter. That's what one automatically assumes based on what he says, and it's not contested, unlike in other versions. Not in this scene, anyway.
Btw I love Dalton's acting, there are so many facets and nuances to it. Here he shows Rochester's thoughtful, melancholic side.
Adele is not his daughter seriously. Her mom was one of Rochester’s lovers. Adele’s personality is way too shallow to be his. But his caring for Adele showing his kindness.
@@adaorahikwueme4472 Her personality doesn't prove or disprove her paternity.
Смотрю и неиоггу. Не могу нн не могу насмотрется такой фильм божественный
И я смотрю уже много лет. Смотрю на немецком, который они прекрасно дублировали и на английском в оригинале. Это вообще класс- у Тимоти прекрасный голос, у ЗИЛы тоже. Лучше любых переводчиков
Тимоти-невероятно красивий мужчина и,безусловно лучший Рочестер
Абсолютно согласна с Вами!
И красивый и талантливый! Сколько прекрасных ролей!❤
Блансе Юіноу в ролі Адель - просто прекрасна! Чудово, щиро, правдиво, відповідно, природньо зіграла роль Адель
As Mr rochester He play it superbly well
Actor made Mr Rochester looks and sounds romantic. I cannot get over clothes how accurate it was furniture rooms.outside screnery
Timothy Dalton Love you 😍😍😍😍😍
His language bewildered me too
It is deep dialogue, not easy to understand from a superficial level. One of the things I love about this adaptation ..
Kind of a soul searching dialogue in old Celtic verbiage too...
Dalton is ten times better Rochester than all other actors in that role.
Yes he has inhabited Rochester.
His acting is possibly the closest interpretation of Mr. Rochester in the novel. It was excellent!
@@maineclayton2419 Except for the physical aspect. The book presents Rochester as an "ugly man", why Celine Varens and Blanche Ingram were purely after his money. But allowances can be made in film making i guess. :)
@@janeeyre-quotes I suppose the staff in some "Jane Eyre" adaptations were terrified to hire actors who closely resembles to what the novels says about Mr. Rochester and Jane. As for Dalton, his looks tend to be distracting but his interpretation of the character he played was well-done. He knew when to be emotional without being over the top too much.
The way he says "grand passion" is so funny to me 😅.
Почему смешно, что вы имеете в виду.
@@КатяГрушко-в2п It's an accent that I don't usually hear that's why.
Mr Rochester is supposed to be ugly but damn, he is so haaaadsomeeee
Govrrness was game to the master of the house.The Ingrahmes were on the mark.
Jane was exceptionaly intelligent which attracted him.
She was almost his equall in his mind.
He wanted understanding and explained his nature to a very moral 18 year old.
Suka akting keduanya, sangat bagus
Mister Dalton, with respect, had women but never a Jane Eyre ❤
Далтон всю жизнь гулял,изменял,бросал К 50годам растеряв свой былой лоск ,решил завести семью Он выбрал вторую Селину Варанс История с ней закончилась также как в книге На таких, как Джейн он не смотрел Он заслужил эту Селину Варанс
提摩西達頓的臉看起來比較嚴肅，不苟言笑，但是演技卻是一級棒，他拍了二部00七的電影，黎明生機，殺人執照等，是繼羅傑摩爾之後的OO七，演來得心應手，獲得很多讚譽。其餘作品，鐵金剛大破黄金黨，諜王之王，大煞星與三劍客，紐約夜未眠，老饔，飛天尢戦，英官恨，冬之獅，鎮國大將軍，難補情天恨，國王的娼婦，天才佳人，埃及艶后，將軍的女兒，色遇，天使神差 ，終極神鷹，火箭人，魂歸離恨天，新咆哮山茈等。演技精湛，帥氣十足。
👍Prrrecisely! ✝️ A major part of the prolife stance. The baby, 😇 whatever the manner of its conception, "is not answerable for her mother's faults nor yours, sir."🤰🤱🌹✝️
I feel as if he baited her to see if she would be a good mother. when he says thank you in the end I got more of that feeling. I could be wrong though.
I think it's more like he's revealing part of his own darkness to test how much of it she can handle before she runs for the hills.
In chepter15, he said:'I know what sort of a mind I have placed in communication with my own: I know it is one not liable to take infection: it is a peculiar mind: it is a unique one. Happily I do not mean to harm it: but, if I did, it would not take harm from me. The more you and I converse, the better; for while I cannot blight you, you may refresh me.' So, maybe he 'thanks' about himself.
I think he was thanking her for being a decent person.
I think all these are insightful comments, I think it is all of it, some baiting and testing out of his own fear, and some relieved gratitude for her responsive goodness to him and his predicament....
I think he felt somewhat embarrassed for being too presumptuous in regard to Jane, then finally realizing that its not just about him, but the innocent-helpless-parentless Adele.
ME ENCANTA ESTA PELÍCULA O SERIE ME ENAMORA TIMOTHY DALTON Y ME ENCANTA ZELA CLARK MAGNÍFICOS LOS DOS EL ÚNICO FALLO QUE LE ENCONTRE FUE EL FINAL ME GUSTARÍA CON UN POCO MAS DE CHISPA CON MAS BESOS MÁS ROMÁNTICO PERO NO ES CULPA DE LOS PROTAGONISTAS ES CULPA DEL DIRECTOR Y SI NO LE LLEGABA CON EL CAPÍTULO NÚMERO 11 HACER UN CAPITULO MAS Y POR LO MENOS UN FINAL MAS LINDO DE TODAS MANERAS A MI ECANTA ESTA SERIE Y ME ENCANTA ESTA PAREJA TIMOTHY DALTON Y ZELA CLARK .
Another Proof.
He will invite Blanche so that Jane could feel jealuosy😉
Yes, cruel to Blanche and Jane as well.
He would never marry Blanche and only martied Jane because she was too moral to become his mistress.
He was trapped by the rules of his time.
Красавчик мой Эдвард
Akting yang sama persis seperti pada bukunya.
❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉❤❤❤
提摩西達頓從影二十多年，作品二十三部，是一個少產的明星。
So, wait, is Adele his daughter, or Celine's daughter with another man? That was never clarified. I haven't touched the book since i was 11. Can anyone tell me?
In the novel, Celine claims that Adele is Mr. Rochester's daughter but the latter denies it. Jane mentioned in the novel that Adele and Mr. Rochester don't share any of their resemblance implying that they're not related after all. In this version, there's an implication that Adele is Mr. Rochester's biological child but in reality it forgot to put some lines in the script where Mr. Rochester denies that he and Celine bore a child. Mr. Rochester doesn't seem too cruel towards Adele and he tried to have a conversation with her at least a little.
@@maineclayton2419 True. And this shows that Rochester has a good heart too - adopting Adele and bringing her to England "to grow up clean in the wholesome soil of an English country garden." (Chapter 15).
:)
@@janeeyre-quotes I heard from a certain "Jane Eyre" podcast explained the reason why Mr. Rochester sent Adele to England is that she doesn't want to be like her mother who turns out to be a prostitute. Back in the 19th century, many ballerinas in France worked as a prostitute as their side-line and Celine is one of them. Mr. Rochester was naive to figure out that Celine loves him for his money and it was part of her job in working on a shady business. It was understandable why he had to make Adele move away from that terrible situation.
@@maineclayton2419Could be. But Rochester's reason wasn't really stated in the book except that since Celine was claiming that he's the father, then he might have felt obligated to take Adele. However, there's really no proof that he IS the father. And as he said in the book, he finds absolutely no resemblance between him and Adele and he highly doubts that he is the father.
Just remember roschester older so he would not have such a small child so she has be around fifteen years in England at time only teens has governess
He comes with such beggage.
Интересно Адель родная дочь Рочестера?
Так они похожи друг на друга. Адель-
Ангелочек!
Так она играет. Прелесть моя!
Если Вы помните книгу мистер Рочестер рассказал Джейн о своей страсти к французской танцовщице Селин. Она якобы сказала, что Адель - его ребенок. Но Рочестер очень сомневался в этом и сказал, что он с годами находит все меньше общих черт с девочкой. Скорее всего ребенок не его, так считал сам Рочестер
Нет, она не его дочь. Почитайте книгу
Dalton is acting for the stage. He's a very similar performer to Lawrence Olivier... over annunciation, highly theatrical and very technical. My apologies to those who love his performance, but I find it very distancing and not terribly moving.
He is my Rochester, but I understand your point. I think he was trained as a classical actor, I also believe he had to overact at times to compensate for the coldness of Zelah (yes, I find her cold). Pity, for me, he could not have been paired with a different actress as Jane: maybe he would have delivered differently, especially in the proposal and leaving scenes
You’re absolutely right, and also both Olivier and Dalton have strong features, ideal for the stage, not as much for TV. But aren’t they so spot on with the tone they use in their phrases, honouring the English language and meanwhile stressing the hero’s thoughts and feelings through recitation? I used to push Oliviers performances away and then in an interview I realised he is a genius and a genuine servant of drama. A very multiverse man and a teacher. That is my humble opinion.