Hey Roland, Korg, you better listen up, midi cc, usb class complaint audio, upto 30 midi devices.....disk streaming....and all from an SBC with just a quad core rockchip and 2gb ram....IT CAN BE DONE, no more excuses.
After 20 years of constantly buying synths, midi gear, and fx units, I can say that the Force is by far the most impressive piece of hardware I have ever purchased. And this even before V3.x. Now, with V3.1 this thing is even more astonishing than ever. Props, Akai - and also a big compliment for constantly improving the Force. Very happy customer here!
I sort of agree, but only in that Ableton Live and a cheap laptop is the most impressive piece of hardware that I've ever purchased. Force is coming closer with each update, with some new ideas thrown in which range from pretty cool to okay. But Force is kinda buggy at times, especially with whatever happen to be the newest features. It really is a cheap computer with some specialized software attached. I find Ableton on a well set-up computer to be the winner, more refined, and much more powerful.
Yeah, this is exactly the reason why I bought one some few weeks ago. All because the firmware update and to see these guys are listening to the community and improving the Force over and over again. That makes it a timeless piece of awesome hardware.
If I would come across Andy on the street, I’d give him a BIG hug. So excited about this update! All I wanted was midi learn and it has so much more now.
It's only drawback is the lack of inputs...so I put a Heardrush looperboard in front of it and use it as an input mixer for my guitar pedalboard, vocals, and Montage synth... Works beautifully together... 🙂
I bought a Force a month ago, and man it's been a wild ride so far. I honestly don't think I've ever owned anything in my life that's gotten as much better over the course of my ownership as the Force has in the short time I've owned it, and if Akai's track record is anything to go by, I imagine there's even more in store. Seriously, this how you create lifelong fans. Huge kudos to all you folks at Akai for standing behind your products.
As a Beta tester I am so glad this is out in the wild and we can talk about it. Akai took some real stick in the community for the initial announcements for the launch of this product but they have delivered all that was promised and so much more. It is an incredible device now and I don't think there's anything quite like it.
Hands down the best Akai product to date. Just got myself one after sleeping on it for almost 4 years, took awhile for the software to catch up but now is the time. It’s does everything I wanted from the MPC range and more. A truly inspiring product and one I hope Akai continue to improve.
@@aloahe4807 I agree. There is something jamming at NI. So much opportunities but they loose to follow the progress of time. I'm sick of buying just another sample pack. My Mk3 ist collecting dust
I’m excited about this change to the force. Now it feels like the production machine they promised. I’m glad that akai didn’t drop development on the force after that terrible start. It really is an incredible machine now.
@@christianthompson1473 thanks, I have seen people post videos with the Force running off a portable battery, it would just be nice to have it built in and not hanging off to the side.
A Deluge was looking at me wanting me to comment. Once the Deluge gets it's new update, it will have more modes of synth, polyrhythms, MPE. It will likely have best seq on market. Plus can do multi-samples (sorted automatically) and single waveforms as oscillator, plus crazy use of live input as oscillator. And unlimited samples. The Force is amazing in terms of features and workflow, I'd have one already if MPE was on the cards. When I use a Push now I find myself trying to add expression to notes like I am still using a MPE controller. I feel like I have half a controller when without MPE. Without it I feel expressionless, like I am just hitting a bunch of on/off switches, which is exactly what I am doing without MPE. Great updates on the Force but a elephant is in the room, or the absence of elephant in the room in the form of MPE.
@@spindlenine - MIDI Polyphonic Expression. It is a method to sent individual MIDI note information on its own MIDI channel. So each MIDI note has an 3 axis of expressive control.
I already love this machine. I got to play with a leaked version of the beta of this months ago and it blew me away. Incredible, and I've just been waiting for the stable release. Best standalone on the market, hands down.
Andy really loves this thing and you can tell he is genuinely excited and proud to show us how cool it is, normally, I get the feeling just another sales guy is trying to make us like standard features of gear. I'm sold, I needed a hub to sequence external gear and couldn't resist pulling the trigger on this. Class compliant, cv out, Ableton link, export and import from Ableton, stream from disk to save RAM, record to disk! I can't fault it! I think I got the last one in Australia!
I was fortunate enough to get a hold of one thru a beta tester , this has honestly got one of most powerful platform that I've ever used I have the X , live 2, one but this is an extremely powerful tool we spent hours with this thing crazy what the potential of can go , hats off to akai , Andy this has been a long time coming I'm impressed
Hats off to Akai, they are really leading the way atm. I’ve gone back to akai after 20 years (original 2000xl) and bought the mpc one which is superb. Hydrasynth explorer on pre order. Exciting time for hardware.
They really are. They are quietly creating the first hardware based DAW with touchscreen. I've been waiting for a touchscreen hardware DAW experience for 20 years.
It will come for sure.. Because the firmware are very close.. Akai will show the world that massive Updates dont need another Hardware Revision like other companies do, because the Hardware is a beast. I would count Native Instruments and Maschine on..
@@Marco-ek8wu arrange view / midi clips can’t come fast enough. that’ll make the MPC Live 100% perfect. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a future version of the Force with a battery in…
@@spindlenine it’s sure going to be interesting to see where Akai go next with their hardware line. I’d like to see a fully loaded mpc one as I prefer the layout over the live. The force would suit me better buts it’s too big for my tiny corner of the room that my wife has banished me too.
I don't own the force but am excited by this because it shows the work being put into mpc's updates that'll trickle through to every Akai music product 🤟🏾
I'm so glad I got a FORCE a few months ago! I almost got the MPC LIVE 2 but something about the FORCE just called to me. I really love these new features. Didn't even know the update was out!
great demos of a long overdue update - nice job Nick. and Andy Mac makes it look so easy I'm still blown away by the older Force demos by Nick Trikakis, when the features were less and you had to be more clever - he made it a real performance instrument with clever live drum layouts, etc. - I even got a cool live demo by Nick at NAMM 2020 in the Akai room
If their current marketing push falls flat on sales they will drop it in a year. That’s been how they work. Quietly stopping support will continuing sales on distributors.
@@LaszloVarjuTechno not sure what your 100 clip complaint is about? you can have 128 midi / drum (sample) tracks , 8 plugin tracks and 8 audio tracks with unlimited clips in each...
Fantastic update! Exactly the things I missed in the previous updates have now been added. The live performance aspect has really become much bigger with these additions and all super easy to set up. Thanks Akai and thanks Sonicstate for this video, the Force deserves some more attention. 😎👍
Isn’t the Force simply acting as the receiver for the Tascam like a computer daw. It’s the Tascam that opens up the connectivity options, the Force is simply reading the multi channel data output. In essence you would need to spend a near equivalent amount again to make the Force what it is here in this video.
The tascam desk they are using is a sound card, the thing is that you can use sound card with the force to expand the inputs and outputs above the limits of the machines… without a PC which is awesome
As a novice for me that was like when you are pleasantly overhearing another language being spoken. You have no idea what they are saying but you want to know and it’s so cool the way they are saying it. But on a serious note: AKAI you chose a really great presenter.
So now its a complete product. Finally! Like a heavily limited Ableton Live, which is a good thing for the creative process. Think I might buy one now :)
The Force has revolutionized the way I do live modular sets. Used to run two cases.. one for drums being driven by erica drum sequencer running the assimil8or and some drum modules. One case has synth voices driven by nerdseq which is the master clock for both cases. Now I run Akai force for drums, loops, send FX from modular AND the force seq the modular case (one case now wirh just voices and maybe one drum modiule but with the drum synths I may pull out that 909 hats module).. midi sent to Polyend Poly2.. that can send enough CV/gate, clock and cc on clips that makes for kinda live modulation per clip. Sets can be less linear and pattern based and the limits are way past where I’ve gotten with it.
Does it work this way ? Golbal answere : Yeah ! Many thanks Akai ! Im using the arranger and I was one of the guys which wanted automate the master channel directly into the force too. So cool what you have done with it ! :) All that new cool stuff went also into the Force AND I can use my external knobs ? wow. It´s more then I imagined !
MPC needs the arrangement window like the force for better control of the arrangement of beats. Will really add a new dimension to mpc production. Song mode is not really a visual way of arrangement, I know it’s historical to mpc but let’s make things better rather than holding on to the old school iconics that don’t improve ergonomics.
I talked to Akai at SuperBooth and they re-iterated that everything that is happening on the Force will also happen on the MPC. So arranger, disk streaming and other features will make it over.
What did you have the hydrasynth locked onto a stand you wheeled about please what is it and where can you get 1 I need one of these! Thanks . Awesome presentation.
They knocked it out of the park… it’s the perfect hub for hardware and song production with hardware latency… does it have multi track recording and play back with the (up to) 32 ins and out with a audio interface? Could replace a computer entirely… looks good for Akai’s future… imagine they made something from scratch after this with the objective to fully replace a computer
The updates look pretty sick, but I hope the class compliant audio interface connection works better on the Force than on the MPC One and Live I and II. People, myself included, are experiencing pops, clicks and drop outs when recording into their Live or One using class compliant audio interfaces over the USB connection. Hopefully AKAI fixes the issue or publishes a list of audio interfaces that they've tested to work well with the USB connection.
Would be cool if someone made a clear, simple overview of what the Force is, with a demonstration of the intended workflow from start to a finished song. I've been scouring youtube for Force videos while I wait for mine to arrive, and mostly I've found that people don't seem to understand what it is or how it's meant to be used. It seems to be widely misunderstood, and I keep finding people using incredibly cumbersome ways of doing things because they don't know there's already a near-effortless method to accomplish the same thing. I'm guessing this is why the Akai Force hasn't been as popular as MPC and why it hasn't sold as well. It probably should be Akai's best seller, but people don't understand it... and it seems to be due to a lack of good information.
@@TJ-hs1qm Yeah, that plus most of MPC's best features. But based on what I'm seeing in videos and in synth community chatter, people don't seem to know that, or know what it means. The purpose of an overview video and full-song creation demo would be to explain it to people who don't have enough experience to figure it out just by looking. Like, I can say "it's like Ableton but in standalone hardware form, with a bunch of nice synths and effects and the good parts of a MPC and the good parts of Linux"... but that won't mean anything to the people who need the video. Akai has apparently been struggling for years to sell the Force, since it never really caught on like MPC did... and it seems like the underlying issue is just a lack of good noob-level info to help people understand it. Someone who already has the relevant background context can just glance at it and figure it out immediately, because it's obvious. It makes perfect sense. But for everyone else, it's mysterious and confusing. So it'd help a lot if there was a video I could point them at to explain it like they're 5 years old.
@@renn6699 Lol at "probably". Because loopop does _not_ have videos of his usual type on the Akai Force. All he has is an old interview with a guy at NAMM who wasn't very good at explaining it. The info there is outdated and doesn't even attempt to cover the core workflow. When the guy starts trying to explain the core parts, loopop actually steers him away from it to focus on secondary features instead. It's one of the worst videos he has ever made, and is part of why people don't understand what the Force is.
no knock on Andy Mac at the helm of the Force, but I reeeeeally wish Akai would hire back Nick Trikakis to show off this unit now since all the updates it has had since he was representing it. He had me sold when it was first revealed, and man could he absolutely rock the thing at version 3.01, I could only imagine what he could do with it now almost 2 years later. What an outstanding piece of gear, so great in fact, that it offends some people enough to try and hate on it and look for and exploit all things it can't do and doesn't have. The Force deserves a reward, hats off to you Akai, well done...
I have one of these Its Very portable very creatively versatile and powerful, and always gets better and better with upgrades, and having so much power in just one machine is perfect for me, because with my epilepsy I'm not allowed to drive, so compaired to years ago as you know we had to carry a lot of music gear In the 80's to get the polyphony power this has, Its something simple and I love all the fx sounds versatility and everything. but I love the combination of the computer and software combined with hardware all In one, Its magic to me. I dont even want to ad anything to It, because the power I need Is in one machine.
MPE is now a must have feature for me, amazing how something can quickly become an integral part of the workflow. I'd have a Force already if I know it was coming. Luckily it is coming to Deluge - but be easier to add MPE to the Force than a nice workflow & UI to the Deluge.
@@anonymous_friend - Don't think the Force did get MPE. It can take poly in from MPE controller. And I guess you can do a workaround for MPE. Like putting a plugin synth of the same preset on multiple tracks, then set to different MIDI channels.
Been making electronic music for 20 years and I've never been so productive and inspired as in the last year with the Force. This new update makes this thing UNBELIEVABLY awesome.
It’s actually really incredible how much you can do just with this box. The onboard synths are so good you really don’t need any external synths any more.
Does the Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 3rd gen work with the Force? With the MPC One there's an audio dropout at every 20-40 seconds, and multiple people have confirmed this behavior.
Even as a Maschine user, I can say that this device is freakin fantastic. This video has just convinced me to go on an purchase this! Might even get the MPC X afterwards. 🤷🏾♂️
MPC X is great if you have the space, But it is bigger than you first think, I had to let mine go, broke my heart! but I'm happy now with the MPC live(one not two).
Im now into third year with my Force, and i can assure Y'all, that this machine is a beast and must have. It's still have some bugs and missing some basic features (im looking at You tracks, that i can not move into other place...) Force is still getting better, i love it so much that i mainly make music on it, the synth engines, the workflow, the effects and features... i was bought from the first day, higly recommend, i hope all the irritating/missing features will soon be fixed/added.
Somebody here with a video based on the new disk stream function? I don’t really get it. I want understand what that’s mean? Thanks for the cool review video👍🏽
Not sure how it deals with drum tracks and streaming samples directly, i only updated a few hours ago. I have though loaded up a 3 1/2 minute multitrack of 8 stereo tracks and it works great. That alone is a game changer. Yet to plug the X32 rack in and see where that take things.
Am looking forward to trying this. I have a Force in transit, set to arrive any day now, and am planning to use it as the core of my studio. I'm just waiting on Fedex to realize they overshot the destination and are now going in the wrong direction. Until then, I guess it's going on a bit of an adventure without me.
If only these geniuses would get real musicians with tech education and put a little money into initial development. We wouldnt have to wait for an update to make EVERY InMusic product functional..
Does anyone know if the Audio over USB/ 32 inputs thing can be done by connecting both the force and a compatible mixer to my PC via USB? Rather than the mixer being plugged straight into the Force?
Can I record a predetermined fixed length audio clip where it auto starts recording on the 1 and stops at the end of the fixed length, and auto starts playing back? Like you can do with push2 and Ableton…. Thanks.
I wish force and mpc would not be so clunky when using odd time signatures and a good way to mix these in a project. So far, odd time signatures are supported, but you have to create a track in traditional time signature, then insert bars, then select the time meter, then delete the first bar. It’s just a pain, then the click doesn’t event follow the time metric, it just keeps chugging on 4/4. This one detail prevents from going full stand alone. This is just my case, if you normally just use the more traditional meters, then you’re good 👍
Am I the only one who noticed Roland's "JU-06A" as an audio device at 6:24 It's not class-compliant audio (as far as I know) and iPad music community was struggling with Roland's audio for a while now. Seems like Force has Roland's drivers preinstalled?
Thanks for flagging. I posted the question, multiple times, also for the mpc one 2.10 upgrade: can the boutique's be connected midi and(!) audio over usb? Anyway hoping that an owner of both devices will experiment and post a vid.
As someone who bought a force after watching this video I was crushed when I realised the built in sample warp is so bad that you cant increase the project by 2 bpm without things going out of sync and the loops sounding horrific. With the hopes of syncing my live sets with DJs and importing loops from splice like they advertised I cant belive this has been a problem since launch and it has never been looked at. I understand it will never be as good as ableton but even comparing it to samplers with much smaller CPUs its insane that they cant pull it off on this device.
@@julian-multiman I take it back. I had to do a ton of testing. Mainly had to get a USB to midi interface to get everything synced. I do get a bit frustrated by it still for a few reasons...
Hey Roland, Korg, you better listen up, midi cc, usb class complaint audio, upto 30 midi devices.....disk streaming....and all from an SBC with just a quad core rockchip and 2gb ram....IT CAN BE DONE, no more excuses.
After 20 years of constantly buying synths, midi gear, and fx units, I can say that the Force is by far the most impressive piece of hardware I have ever purchased. And this even before V3.x. Now, with V3.1 this thing is even more astonishing than ever. Props, Akai - and also a big compliment for constantly improving the Force. Very happy customer here!
I sort of agree, but only in that Ableton Live and a cheap laptop is the most impressive piece of hardware that I've ever purchased. Force is coming closer with each update, with some new ideas thrown in which range from pretty cool to okay. But Force is kinda buggy at times, especially with whatever happen to be the newest features. It really is a cheap computer with some specialized software attached. I find Ableton on a well set-up computer to be the winner, more refined, and much more powerful.
@@42tehfloor Try getting a cheap laptop and ableton to stage and then let me know… I’ve been there, have played live with no laptop since 2003…
Yeah, this is exactly the reason why I bought one some few weeks ago. All because the firmware update and to see these guys are listening to the community and improving the Force over and over again. That makes it a timeless piece of awesome hardware.
If I would come across Andy on the street, I’d give him a BIG hug. So excited about this update! All I wanted was midi learn and it has so much more now.
It’s always had midi learn hasn’t it , my MPC one has had it forever
@@valley_robot that's right, the mpc's had it for quite some time, but the Force didn't prior to this update.
It's only drawback is the lack of inputs...so I put a Heardrush looperboard in front of it and use it as an input mixer for my guitar pedalboard, vocals, and Montage synth... Works beautifully together... 🙂
I bought a Force a month ago, and man it's been a wild ride so far. I honestly don't think I've ever owned anything in my life that's gotten as much better over the course of my ownership as the Force has in the short time I've owned it, and if Akai's track record is anything to go by, I imagine there's even more in store. Seriously, this how you create lifelong fans. Huge kudos to all you folks at Akai for standing behind your products.
As a Beta tester I am so glad this is out in the wild and we can talk about it. Akai took some real stick in the community for the initial announcements for the launch of this product but they have delivered all that was promised and so much more. It is an incredible device now and I don't think there's anything quite like it.
It really is a "FORCE" now! Good work!
I just gotta get a controller for my XR18 now.
Are the Matrix, Mixer and Note buttons also mappable?
Yeah but did you ever stop to consider that you just LOST THE GAME?
@@Lolwutdesu9000 Why's that?
Hands down the best Akai product to date. Just got myself one after sleeping on it for almost 4 years, took awhile for the software to catch up but now is the time. It’s does everything I wanted from the MPC range and more. A truly inspiring product and one I hope Akai continue to improve.
unbelievable effort to hold the akai force alive, and more... update to update, it gets better and better no competition now in it's range.
They do it all better as Native Instrument for example...
@@aloahe4807 I agree. There is something jamming at NI. So much opportunities but they loose to follow the progress of time. I'm sick of buying just another sample pack. My Mk3 ist collecting dust
As long as it has enough ram
I’m excited about this change to the force. Now it feels like the production machine they promised. I’m glad that akai didn’t drop development on the force after that terrible start. It really is an incredible machine now.
Yeah now I wish I haven’t sold mine 😭 sad
@@2beablessing2012 pick one up second hand cheap, but be quick. I feel the force is gonna rise😶
This is really awesome. If they’d just put a battery in it I think I’d sell my MPC Live.
@@spindlenine it will run off a 19v laptop battery. The force power supply is exactly a laptop power supply...!
@@christianthompson1473 thanks, I have seen people post videos with the Force running off a portable battery, it would just be nice to have it built in and not hanging off to the side.
The force is now legitimately peerless in the standalone market. Absolutely wild with these updates. Hope they sell a million, keep it going!
A Deluge was looking at me wanting me to comment. Once the Deluge gets it's new update, it will have more modes of synth, polyrhythms, MPE. It will likely have best seq on market. Plus can do multi-samples (sorted automatically) and single waveforms as oscillator, plus crazy use of live input as oscillator. And unlimited samples. The Force is amazing in terms of features and workflow, I'd have one already if MPE was on the cards. When I use a Push now I find myself trying to add expression to notes like I am still using a MPE controller. I feel like I have half a controller when without MPE. Without it I feel expressionless, like I am just hitting a bunch of on/off switches, which is exactly what I am doing without MPE. Great updates on the Force but a elephant is in the room, or the absence of elephant in the room in the form of MPE.
@@watercolourmark what’s MPE?
@@spindlenine - MIDI Polyphonic Expression. It is a method to sent individual MIDI note information on its own MIDI channel. So each MIDI note has an 3 axis of expressive control.
@nincs nincs not everyone… thank god… so many fake prerecorded sets… nice to see real potential with this kind of machines…
@nincs nincs laptops suck
I already love this machine. I got to play with a leaked version of the beta of this months ago and it blew me away. Incredible, and I've just been waiting for the stable release.
Best standalone on the market, hands down.
Andy really loves this thing and you can tell he is genuinely excited and proud to show us how cool it is, normally, I get the feeling just another sales guy is trying to make us like standard features of gear. I'm sold, I needed a hub to sequence external gear and couldn't resist pulling the trigger on this. Class compliant, cv out, Ableton link, export and import from Ableton, stream from disk to save RAM, record to disk! I can't fault it! I think I got the last one in Australia!
I was fortunate enough to get a hold of one thru a beta tester , this has honestly got one of most powerful platform that I've ever used I have the X , live 2, one but this is an extremely powerful tool we spent hours with this thing crazy what the potential of can go , hats off to akai , Andy this has been a long time coming I'm impressed
I no was wondering how this compares to the MPCX and Live what are the biggest improvements
Hats off to Akai, they are really leading the way atm. I’ve gone back to akai after 20 years (original 2000xl) and bought the mpc one which is superb. Hydrasynth explorer on pre order. Exciting time for hardware.
They really are. They are quietly creating the first hardware based DAW with touchscreen. I've been waiting for a touchscreen hardware DAW experience for 20 years.
Brilliant update ….fingers crossed the disk streaming makes it way across to the MPC One.
Word on the street is that disc streaming and an arranger are coming to the MPC range very soon. Hopefully version 3.0
It will. AKAI takes good care of its customers.
It will come for sure.. Because the firmware are very close..
Akai will show the world that massive Updates dont need another Hardware Revision like other companies do, because the Hardware is a beast.
I would count Native Instruments and Maschine on..
@@Marco-ek8wu arrange view / midi clips can’t come fast enough. that’ll make the MPC Live 100% perfect. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a future version of the Force with a battery in…
@@spindlenine it’s sure going to be interesting to see where Akai go next with their hardware line. I’d like to see a fully loaded mpc one as I prefer the layout over the live. The force would suit me better buts it’s too big for my tiny corner of the room that my wife has banished me too.
I don't own the force but am excited by this because it shows the work being put into mpc's updates that'll trickle through to every Akai music product 🤟🏾
I'm so glad I got a FORCE a few months ago! I almost got the MPC LIVE 2 but something about the FORCE just called to me. I really love these new features. Didn't even know the update was out!
any regrets? still love it?
great demos of a long overdue update - nice job Nick. and Andy Mac makes it look so easy
I'm still blown away by the older Force demos by Nick Trikakis, when the features were less and you had to be more clever - he made it a real performance instrument with clever live drum layouts, etc. - I even got a cool live demo by Nick at NAMM 2020 in the Akai room
Nick Trikakis is the man. He is the reason I got my Force.
Great update, I wasn't sure Akai wasn't super interested in keeping the force updated, but this proves otherwise. Wonderful stuff from akai.
If their current marketing push falls flat on sales they will drop it in a year. That’s been how they work. Quietly stopping support will continuing sales on distributors.
celebrity in da comments 🎉😂
Disk streaming will shut the traps of a lot of the whiners, terrific update!
You think they won't find something else to whine about? Just wait.
@@LaszloVarjuTechno not sure what your 100 clip complaint is about? you can have 128 midi / drum (sample) tracks , 8 plugin tracks and 8 audio tracks with unlimited clips in each...
@@LaszloVarjuTechno If you can only get 10 minutes of music out of a Force project, there's something wrong on your end.
@nincs nincs of course it is. It streams the audio from the hard disk you installed. If thats not disk streaming what is?
@@noisetheorem 😂😂😂they have already
Fantastic update! Exactly the things I missed in the previous updates have now been added. The live performance aspect has really become much bigger with these additions and all super easy to set up. Thanks Akai and thanks Sonicstate for this video, the Force deserves some more attention. 😎👍
Isn’t the Force simply acting as the receiver for the Tascam like a computer daw. It’s the Tascam that opens up the connectivity options, the Force is simply reading the multi channel data output. In essence you would need to spend a near equivalent amount again to make the Force what it is here in this video.
Two great persons Nick and Andy 👍🏻🙋🏻♂️
This seriously made my whole work flow better. Thanks Akai for such an amazing instrument!
As someone putting together a studio setup what is striking is that you don't seem to need an audio interface any more with the class compliant usb.
The tascam desk they are using is a sound card, the thing is that you can use sound card with the force to expand the inputs and outputs above the limits of the machines… without a PC which is awesome
As a novice for me that was like when you are pleasantly overhearing another language being spoken. You have no idea what they are saying but you want to know and it’s so cool the way they are saying it. But on a serious note: AKAI you chose a really great presenter.
Very excited for this. Been loving the Force in my workflow and it just keeps getting better! Great job!
I am always impressed with Andy Mac's talent for sales.
He's got it.
So now its a complete product. Finally! Like a heavily limited Ableton Live, which is a good thing for the creative process. Think I might buy one now :)
It's not really limited anymore.
The Force has revolutionized the way I do live modular sets.
Used to run two cases.. one for drums being driven by erica drum sequencer running the assimil8or and some drum modules.
One case has synth voices driven by nerdseq which is the master clock for both cases.
Now I run Akai force for drums, loops, send FX from modular AND the force seq the modular case (one case now wirh just voices and maybe one drum modiule but with the drum synths I may pull out that 909 hats module).. midi sent to Polyend Poly2.. that can send enough CV/gate, clock and cc on clips that makes for kinda live modulation per clip.
Sets can be less linear and pattern based and the limits are way past where I’ve gotten with it.
Hi. I have a similar setup however clock syncing has been a nightmare for me... How did you solve it?
Let's go!!!
So, no more massive expansion drumkits gobbling up all of the RAM? I can't believe it!
The best purchase of my musical life. A desert island machine.
Does it work this way ? Golbal answere : Yeah ! Many thanks Akai ! Im using the arranger and I was one of the guys which wanted automate the master channel directly into the force too. So cool what you have done with it ! :) All that new cool stuff went also into the Force AND I can use my external knobs ? wow. It´s more then I imagined !
MPC needs the arrangement window like the force for better control of the arrangement of beats. Will really add a new dimension to mpc production. Song mode is not really a visual way of arrangement, I know it’s historical to mpc but let’s make things better rather than holding on to the old school iconics that don’t improve ergonomics.
And graphic eq to make full mixed song in the box
Thank you guys! Especially for your enthusiasm and devotion. Buying that thing tomorrow... :)))
Boom!... drop the mic... The Force is now a complete product.. well done Akai
I absolutely love the Force. This is the best music product I own.
As an owner of the MPC One, I wish he would have asked Andy if that master/bus automation recording is coming for the MPC line as well.
We pray
I talked to Akai at SuperBooth and they re-iterated that everything that is happening on the Force will also happen on the MPC. So arranger, disk streaming and other features will make it over.
Akai has just been killing it lately.
Great update - looking forward to integrating this with the modular via Expert Sleepers ES8! 😀
I was just thinking the same thing!
Please give the MPC's Disk Streaming too. It would make gigging really possible with the one unit.
MIDI clips and Arrange view for the MPCs too, please :)
And graphic eq!
Time to break out the force again and start using it the way I intended when I bought the thing. Thank you so much.
What did you have the hydrasynth locked onto a stand you wheeled about please what is it and where can you get 1 I need one of these!
Thanks . Awesome presentation.
They knocked it out of the park… it’s the perfect hub for hardware and song production with hardware latency… does it have multi track recording and play back with the (up to) 32 ins and out with a audio interface? Could replace a computer entirely… looks good for Akai’s future… imagine they made something from scratch after this with the objective to fully replace a computer
(In audio production)
The updates look pretty sick, but I hope the class compliant audio interface connection works better on the Force than on the MPC One and Live I and II. People, myself included, are experiencing pops, clicks and drop outs when recording into their Live or One using class compliant audio interfaces over the USB connection. Hopefully AKAI fixes the issue or publishes a list of audio interfaces that they've tested to work well with the USB connection.
this is why usb sucks and midi ports should never die out
Would be cool if someone made a clear, simple overview of what the Force is, with a demonstration of the intended workflow from start to a finished song. I've been scouring youtube for Force videos while I wait for mine to arrive, and mostly I've found that people don't seem to understand what it is or how it's meant to be used. It seems to be widely misunderstood, and I keep finding people using incredibly cumbersome ways of doing things because they don't know there's already a near-effortless method to accomplish the same thing.
I'm guessing this is why the Akai Force hasn't been as popular as MPC and why it hasn't sold as well. It probably should be Akai's best seller, but people don't understand it... and it seems to be due to a lack of good information.
as said: Ableton with 8 audio tracks session view / arrangement view + Push controller + fx + plugins
@@TJ-hs1qm Yeah, that plus most of MPC's best features. But based on what I'm seeing in videos and in synth community chatter, people don't seem to know that, or know what it means.
The purpose of an overview video and full-song creation demo would be to explain it to people who don't have enough experience to figure it out just by looking. Like, I can say "it's like Ableton but in standalone hardware form, with a bunch of nice synths and effects and the good parts of a MPC and the good parts of Linux"... but that won't mean anything to the people who need the video.
Akai has apparently been struggling for years to sell the Force, since it never really caught on like MPC did... and it seems like the underlying issue is just a lack of good noob-level info to help people understand it.
Someone who already has the relevant background context can just glance at it and figure it out immediately, because it's obvious. It makes perfect sense. But for everyone else, it's mysterious and confusing. So it'd help a lot if there was a video I could point them at to explain it like they're 5 years old.
@@ToyKeeper loopop probably has some videos on the force and workflow.
@@ToyKeeper ah got it now. I thought you wanted to ask for some help to figure out what it does 😀
@@renn6699 Lol at "probably". Because loopop does _not_ have videos of his usual type on the Akai Force. All he has is an old interview with a guy at NAMM who wasn't very good at explaining it. The info there is outdated and doesn't even attempt to cover the core workflow. When the guy starts trying to explain the core parts, loopop actually steers him away from it to focus on secondary features instead. It's one of the worst videos he has ever made, and is part of why people don't understand what the Force is.
This thing is finally where I'd want to get one. Well done Akai.
no knock on Andy Mac at the helm of the Force, but I reeeeeally wish Akai would hire back Nick Trikakis to show off this unit now since all the updates it has had since he was representing it. He had me sold when it was first revealed, and man could he absolutely rock the thing at version 3.01, I could only imagine what he could do with it now almost 2 years later. What an outstanding piece of gear, so great in fact, that it offends some people enough to try and hate on it and look for and exploit all things it can't do and doesn't have. The Force deserves a reward, hats off to you Akai, well done...
WOW! I've worked on almost every season of "The Jersey Shore" and I never knew that Mike "The Situation" was so MPC savvy.
A love a visit from Andy Mac.
Watched this from start to finish!! So glad I picked up the force!
You just sold me on the Force ✌️ Great demo, great video!
OMG what a channel! *climbing out from under a rock*
I have one of these Its Very portable very creatively versatile and powerful, and always gets better and better with upgrades, and having so much power in just one machine is perfect for me, because with my epilepsy I'm not allowed to drive, so compaired to years ago as you know we had to carry a lot of music gear In the 80's to get the polyphony power this has, Its something simple and I love all the fx sounds versatility and everything. but I love the combination of the computer and software combined with hardware all In one, Its magic to me. I dont even want to ad anything to It, because the power I need Is in one machine.
Great update, still hoping MPE for external instruments will come soon :)
Now your life is complete !
@@Kung_Fu_Jesus nearly :P
MPE is now a must have feature for me, amazing how something can quickly become an integral part of the workflow. I'd have a Force already if I know it was coming. Luckily it is coming to Deluge - but be easier to add MPE to the Force than a nice workflow & UI to the Deluge.
@@watercolourmark did mpe come out for force?
@@anonymous_friend - Don't think the Force did get MPE. It can take poly in from MPE controller. And I guess you can do a workaround for MPE. Like putting a plugin synth of the same preset on multiple tracks, then set to different MIDI channels.
Still waiting for the CHORD and Bass lines control to come out some day: both audio and MIDI based.
Would like to see how disk streaming works now, they mentioned an option for ram etc
Great demo, looks and more importantly SOUNDS like an awesome machine! Excellent features.
Been making electronic music for 20 years and I've never been so productive and inspired as in the last year with the Force. This new update makes this thing UNBELIEVABLY awesome.
It’s actually really incredible how much you can do just with this box. The onboard synths are so good you really don’t need any external synths any more.
Can we now import an ableton arrangement which is really long (band show almost 1h30) with differents tempos ??? thx
Sold my push 2, bought a force and never looked back👌👌
Cheese N Rice ..... AWESOME DEMO !!! Great to see you back in the studio , doing some of what you do best
Are there any videos that show the Force used for Acoustic or Rock music?
Clean that table at sonic lab , put a PC with a 27" monitor and start Ableton 11 . Then let demo Andy the Akai Force 3.1. with this set up.
So stoked! Mine’s coming in tomorrow 🤘 there’s a work around for odd time signatures right?
All these tracks are lit too btw
Does the Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 3rd gen work with the Force? With the MPC One there's an audio dropout at every 20-40 seconds, and multiple people have confirmed this behavior.
Even as a Maschine user, I can say that this device is freakin fantastic. This video has just convinced me to go on an purchase this! Might even get the MPC X afterwards. 🤷🏾♂️
MPC X is great if you have the space, But it is bigger than you first think, I had to let mine go, broke my heart! but I'm happy now with the MPC live(one not two).
@@iamrocketray I’ll just have to make the space lol. The standalone workflow is just too good for me to pass on. Thanks for the heads up tho. 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Nice to see AKAI releasing updates, now, how about you fix the latest big update to MPC-range.
Still no tempo track or time signatures?
Been waiting 4 ages m8! since 2017~!~!!!!!
Disc streaming! I'm wondering if it coming to MPC lineup!
Thank you Akai for the update!
Im now into third year with my Force, and i can assure Y'all, that this machine is a beast and must have. It's still have some bugs and missing some basic features (im looking at You tracks, that i can not move into other place...) Force is still getting better, i love it so much that i mainly make music on it, the synth engines, the workflow, the effects and features... i was bought from the first day, higly recommend, i hope all the irritating/missing features will soon be fixed/added.
Is this the same company that came up with the Timber Wolf?
Go akai. Brilliant updates for their boxes :)
Killer Update!! 👏 👏 👏
Had a Force, sold it. The UI/UX really needs a complete rethink/overhaul.
Perhaps it wasn’t for you? What were the problems and have these been addressed by the updates?
The UI/UX is top of the line and has been for quite awhile. Workflow is unmatched. All tools are not for everyone.
Somebody here with a video based on the new disk stream function? I don’t really get it. I want understand what that’s mean? Thanks for the cool review video👍🏽
Akai are doing fun things.
Muy bien..very good a seguir mejorando y a ir siempre a mejor...bien animo y vayamos todos con alegrias....
Force is finally a force to be reckoned!
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Time signatures ???
I keep begging for them.
So can i now run (stream from int. Ssd, not load into ram) huge expansion drumkits without hitting the 2gig ram buffers?
I think so, yes.
Not sure how it deals with drum tracks and streaming samples directly, i only updated a few hours ago.
I have though loaded up a 3 1/2 minute multitrack of 8 stereo tracks and it works great. That alone is a game changer. Yet to plug the X32 rack in and see where that take things.
TIGHT WORK!!!
I love it, but please, just let me factory restore the damn thing...
Am looking forward to trying this. I have a Force in transit, set to arrive any day now, and am planning to use it as the core of my studio. I'm just waiting on Fedex to realize they overshot the destination and are now going in the wrong direction. Until then, I guess it's going on a bit of an adventure without me.
love this channel but i also watch Seven Hunnid on UA-cam alot cuhh !
It’s the return of the Mac!
If only these geniuses would get real musicians with tech education and put a little money into initial development. We wouldnt have to wait for an update to make EVERY InMusic product functional..
can several different scenes be stored and recalled on the fly on both sides of the fader (like on the Electron Octatrack)?
Excellent hardware, BUT pretty expensive if you want to expand plugins etc.
Does anyone know if the Audio over USB/ 32 inputs thing can be done by connecting both the force and a compatible mixer to my PC via USB? Rather than the mixer being plugged straight into the Force?
Can I record a predetermined fixed length audio clip where it auto starts recording on the 1 and stops at the end of the fixed length, and auto starts playing back? Like you can do with push2 and Ableton…. Thanks.
FINALLY !! DISK STREAMIING ... man.. Finally.. Finally !!
Please Support a MOUSE. Sometimes the screen is to small for my Fingers 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Complementary haircuts 💇♀️
😂 right, if they combined, it will be a full set of hair, 😂
I wish force and mpc would not be so clunky when using odd time signatures and a good way to mix these in a project. So far, odd time signatures are supported, but you have to create a track in traditional time signature, then insert bars, then select the time meter, then delete the first bar. It’s just a pain, then the click doesn’t event follow the time metric, it just keeps chugging on 4/4. This one detail prevents from going full stand alone. This is just my case, if you normally just use the more traditional meters, then you’re good 👍
Am I the only one who noticed Roland's "JU-06A" as an audio device at 6:24
It's not class-compliant audio (as far as I know) and iPad music community was struggling with Roland's audio for a while now. Seems like Force has Roland's drivers preinstalled?
Thanks for flagging. I posted the question, multiple times, also for the mpc one 2.10 upgrade: can the boutique's be connected midi and(!) audio over usb? Anyway hoping that an owner of both devices will experiment and post a vid.
I believe they have the audio out of the JU hooked into an audio input of the mixer which transfers to class-compliant audio over USB to the Force.
Good shout. I have a D-05. I’ll try it tomorrow.
@@lit3work thanks!!
@@hugo4967 confirmed - works on my MPC and Force - shows up in the midi screen as Boutique MIDI - happy days!!
As someone who bought a force after watching this video I was crushed when I realised the built in sample warp is so bad that you cant increase the project by 2 bpm without things going out of sync and the loops sounding horrific. With the hopes of syncing my live sets with DJs and importing loops from splice like they advertised I cant belive this has been a problem since launch and it has never been looked at. I understand it will never be as good as ableton but even comparing it to samplers with much smaller CPUs its insane that they cant pull it off on this device.
Better than the MPC and MPC stretching and warping is on countless records
Midi control for mixing live looking good, that might sell it to me.
Is there a follow action function on the scene launch? Id like my scenes to loop more the 8 bars, maybe 32, for a verse chorus etc, thanks
Almost impossible to clock sync with other systems. It's been such a creative killer tool for me.
Really!? Can you elaborate more on it?
On the fence for getting one…
@@julian-multiman I take it back. I had to do a ton of testing. Mainly had to get a USB to midi interface to get everything synced.
@@julian-multiman I take it back. I had to do a ton of testing. Mainly had to get a USB to midi interface to get everything synced. I do get a bit frustrated by it still for a few reasons...
@@professor-wright So the internal MIDI ports and CV do not sync properly? What synths/gear are you trying to synchronise?
Can you assign scene launch remotely via Motif XF?