Fiber vs. Copper; What do we really need?

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  • @SgtAbramovich
    @SgtAbramovich 5 років тому +3014

    "I know! I'm going to make a new standard!"
    Said 30 different technicians around the globe, roughly at the same time.

    • @Jimorian
      @Jimorian 5 років тому +178

      As usual, there's an XKCD for that: xkcd.com/927/

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 років тому +64

      One can have the greatest tech idea, in the real world it all comes down to ease of usability, and most importantly COST. Sure, fiber is fast and wonderful, but special connectors are required along with relatively expensive light transceivers, oh and it lacks power delivery. That's not to say that fiber is bad, in fact it's great for long (hundreds of miles) of data delivery, just not so much in the consumer market.

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 4 роки тому +8

      @cloridan Beauchamps < I hear ya, and I'm sure it would work great in a lab, but in the real world usb 3.0 is much more durable with its cheap copper including power, and it's plenty fast. Sometimes the best solutions lose out due to being "too good" or tech-politics. ;)

    • @Gshadin
      @Gshadin 4 роки тому +31

      you could make a religion out of this

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 4 роки тому +8

      @@Gshadin < I subscribe to the USB Religion. lol

  • @ChunkyMonkaayyy
    @ChunkyMonkaayyy 4 роки тому +2116

    10 years installing carrier level telco equipment. There’s equipment that literally says “RJ45” or “Ethernet” on the copper ports so even the vendors realize it’s ok to use common terms to make things easy. I find the people who are super picky are either specialized, or have too much free time and just want to sound smart because they read something once.

    • @redrocketgame
      @redrocketgame 3 роки тому +120

      yeah it's wack, one of my teachers who was working at a telcom technician when they were first installing networking lines in Canada calls them ethernet and rj45. no need to get super nitpicky about calling it by the cable's grade instead of what it's used for

    • @glytchd
      @glytchd 3 роки тому +73

      TRUE! I was about to chime in too! I used to be a NETWORK ENGINEER in the 2000s before Virtualization kicked my ass ;) - "you cant call Cat-Ve Ethernet" is just Bogus and really SHOULD be ignored. Anyone worth their salt, will draw the distinctions When Needed! It's Perfectly FINE to use 'short hand'; Unless you're discussing something which specifically entails differences between the Categories (ex 1000base-T 'gigabit' ethernet Requires Cat-6 etc)

    • @BlackmageAlexi
      @BlackmageAlexi 3 роки тому +38

      @@glytchd Ok I don't know anything about networking but why would you need to specify CAT-5 or CAT-6? To me that seems like a plumber saying "you shouldn't say "tube" you should say ½-inch pipe!"

    • @CodeKujo
      @CodeKujo 3 роки тому +67

      ​@@BlackmageAlexi CAT-5 and CAT-6 differ in their ability to carry data; CAT-6 can do higher "bandwidth"--more data per second. They all have the same plug/socket, though, so if you care about how fast it goes, then it's entirely appropriate to say "at least CAT-6". In your pipe example, a manual for a lawn sprinkler pump will specify something like "threaded 1.5in schedule 40 PVC". "threaded 1.5in PVC" is roughly like saying "RJ45", and "schedule 40" is like saying Cat6. It's not perfect, but we'll go with "PVC"="ethernet" in this analogy. There are ways to do ethernet that aren't RJ45, just like not all PVC will mate with a threaded 1.5in hole. Not all networking is ethernet and not all piping is PVC.

    • @dustojnikhummer
      @dustojnikhummer 3 роки тому +27

      @@CodeKujo Cat5e can do 1Gbit just fine, but I think there is a distance limit

  • @ihaveasticknmyi
    @ihaveasticknmyi 5 років тому +7322

    Optical amplifiers work on a very simple principal: they make the light louder.

    • @Nandru85
      @Nandru85 5 років тому +557

      I thought it made light lighter

    • @ristopaasivirta9770
      @ristopaasivirta9770 5 років тому +1022

      Personally I think that the effort is wasted. There's only so many frames per pixel a human ear can smell.

    • @wojiaobill
      @wojiaobill 5 років тому +124

      How bright of you

    • @ThePetaaaaa
      @ThePetaaaaa 5 років тому +67

      Nice. To be a bit more precise, it's just a diode pumped solid-state laser like your green laser pointer. However, the power source (pump diodes) are and the laser medium are a bit more separated than in your laser pointer. ;-)

    • @evandavis5223
      @evandavis5223 5 років тому +103

      To amplify your optical signals, what you need first are some essential oils....

  • @ChatookaMusic
    @ChatookaMusic 3 роки тому +1958

    "I'm sorry for calling this Ethernet cable" *casually pans over a cable with a tag that literally says "Ethernet cable"*

    • @wolu9456
      @wolu9456 3 роки тому +39

      But is it a Patch Cables or Crossover Cable?
      Just bringing awareness that there are such things.
      P.S. When making them for the love of god test them with a meter(it just test's for good connections).
      You can spend hours trying to find the problem if you mess up.

    • @mycrowatt
      @mycrowatt 3 роки тому +47

      Who even uses crossover cables any more with auto MDI-X.

    • @kevreeduk222
      @kevreeduk222 3 роки тому +14

      @@mycrowatt Whilst Auto MDI-X is almost ubiquitous, it does remain a solely OPTIONAL element of the 1000Base-T standard. Although there appears to have been a campaign to make it part of the core standard, it was only adopted as an optional element. As such, it is possible (albeit unlikely) to encounter a situation in the wild where a crossover cable would be required, although the likelihood goes up at locations where the kit installed is from the earlier generations of kit (If my research on the matter is correct, Auto MDI-X was developed as part of a series of proposals for 100Base-T, AKA 802.11ab, so would have been less prevalent in 10/100 networking kit). Some manufacturers did incorporate Auto MDI-X into their 10/100 devices, but this was never mandatory (and remains optional).

    • @InservioLetum
      @InservioLetum 3 роки тому +1

      We should mount a net above your head. While that's being built, the reason you saw the cable being panned over was that this was by design. That was precisely the joke.

    • @ChatookaMusic
      @ChatookaMusic 3 роки тому +22

      @@InservioLetum lmao thanks for explaining, I totally wasn't just commenting on the sass he was employing, I'm glad there are smart people like you to keep idiots like me in line with *woosh* nets 😒

  • @andrewchapman2039
    @andrewchapman2039 4 роки тому +785

    Practical and common use of fiber optic in the consumer market you've glossed over entirely.
    Those real neat lamps.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 4 роки тому +72

      Have you seen the ones that slowly color shift? Wow! The future is cool.

    • @Mrch33ky
      @Mrch33ky 4 роки тому +14

      oh hell yes!

    • @TheGrinningViking
      @TheGrinningViking 4 роки тому +28

      Fiber optic winter holiday trees as well.
      Everyone loves generic winter holiday 👍🏼

    • @DaimyoD0
      @DaimyoD0 4 роки тому +10

      Look up "space whip" if you wanna see a bunch of hippies turn playing with fiber optic toys into an artform lol. It is considered a novelty in the "flow arts" community but it is still widely considered to "look pretty sick."

    • @joshmiller5422
      @joshmiller5422 3 роки тому +2

      Some manufacturers used to use it for interior illumination in cars.

  • @rickperez8044
    @rickperez8044 5 років тому +2874

    When I built my house, I had it wired with "Cat 6". Friends asked, "Dude haven't you heard of wi-fi?" My answer: yes, that's why I'm installing cable.

    • @joebonsaipoland
      @joebonsaipoland 5 років тому +174

      Rick Perez smart man. They put cable lines to all the rooms in my house, for what, I never watch tv.

    • @fsmoura
      @fsmoura 5 років тому +296

      I did exactly that too, but before answering I took one giant spit at the ground just to emphasize my disgust.

    • @RyanMorey1
      @RyanMorey1 5 років тому +588

      I love daydreaming about the amazing networking installation I'll one day have in the house I'll never be able to afford

    • @rickperez8044
      @rickperez8044 5 років тому +471

      @@RyanMorey1 Don't sweat it, my dreamhouse belongs to my ex now. It was a short-lived dream.

    • @Sinjinator
      @Sinjinator 5 років тому +66

      Well I ran coax AND cat5 cables throughout my house; called it "the pipeline". But that was almost 30 years ago! Now I don't even have to use them anymore.

  • @Reczack
    @Reczack 4 роки тому +9055

    Fun fact: audiophiles hate literally everything, including their own equipment and, of course, themselves.

    • @photicguitarisakasucc647
      @photicguitarisakasucc647 4 роки тому +109

      Who is this lovely wamen? Never knew I could have so much in common with an object

    • @NightRogue77
      @NightRogue77 4 роки тому +22

      hmmmmm.... no i don’t

    • @TheGrinningViking
      @TheGrinningViking 4 роки тому +50

      So like everyone else, except they don't like their equipment? 😎👍🏼

    • @fjl05
      @fjl05 4 роки тому +111

      it might have been a fact but it wasnt fun at all.

    • @BrianJT
      @BrianJT 4 роки тому +81

      @@override367 good advice, don't get sucked in :P

  • @laurencenoble3629
    @laurencenoble3629 3 роки тому +225

    I work in live events / theatre and have to say that having one type of cable for everything would be a nightmare. Especially with reversible ends. There's definitely something to be said for knowing exactly what a cable is for just by looking at it

    • @firereverie
      @firereverie 2 роки тому +28

      I don't know, some times it's lots of fun to have a stage hand jam a powercon cord into a speakon jack and hook a passive driver into mains current.

    • @namibjDerEchte
      @namibjDerEchte 2 роки тому +10

      Use different colored connectors?

    • @thunder____
      @thunder____ 2 роки тому +34

      @@namibjDerEchte Color-coded connectors would work in situations where everyone working on setup and teardown is trained in and familiar with the color-coding system. That is to say it is not practical in many real-world situations, where a traveling act hires help from the local union, help that won't be familiar with the particulars of your system so you need to make everything as simple as possible. If a piece of equipment only has XLR connectors, there's no risk of an untrained stage hand connecting a power amp output to it and blowing it up, for example.

    • @__Andrew_
      @__Andrew_ Рік тому +2

      ABSOLUTELY !!

    • @FLECOM
      @FLECOM Рік тому +2

      what? they already do? lighting? ArtNET is ethernet? pretty much required for the huge DMX universes that are being used for things like LED walls... audio? AVB/Dante/MADI/AES50 (take your pick) all ethernet? actually pretty neat, ethernet stage boxes, ethernet mixer, ethernet to the amps, only thing still analog is from amps to speakers

  • @Rudofaux
    @Rudofaux 5 років тому +4198

    YOU FOOL!
    That isn't a Cat5 cable, it is a Cat5E cable.

    • @andrewgwilliam4831
      @andrewgwilliam4831 5 років тому +148

      What?! Who do I complain to?!?!

    • @ballsrgrossnugly
      @ballsrgrossnugly 5 років тому +106

      YOU DOUBLE FOOL! CAT 6 DOES GIGABIT! ;)

    • @amshermansen
      @amshermansen 5 років тому +79

      I mean - So does 5e.

    • @Keex11
      @Keex11 5 років тому +124

      @@ballsrgrossnuglyPffff, CAT III lands aircraft automatically.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 5 років тому +76

      @@ballsrgrossnugly 100BASE-TX, the predominant 100Mbit standard, and 1000BASE-T, the predominant Gigabit standard, both share CAT5 cable specification, though CAT5E supersedes it and is preferred. They can do this because 100BASE-TX doesn't even use half the wires in the cable, plus its transmission method is simpler and less efficient, plus it barely uses half the bandwidth of those wires that it does use - essentially CAT5 was overengineered for 100BASE-TX. CAT6 is a 10Gbit standard.

  • @andreib302
    @andreib302 5 років тому +1443

    The fact that there is a Part 2 shows why i love this channel

    • @obsidian9998
      @obsidian9998 5 років тому +7

      Agreed.

    • @invalid2985
      @invalid2985 5 років тому +37

      he actually cares enough to go back and wrap up some things that he forgot in the main video, which most people wouldn't care enough to go back, but he does!

    • @BradleyBishop
      @BradleyBishop 5 років тому +17

      If you think about where he was a few short years ago, he's really coming into his stride. The videos are better, funnier, and more entertaining. He reminds me, and I think he'll get this, of the old, "The Secret Life of Machines" series. (www.secretlifeofmachines.com/) - if you haven't seen that series, go watch it. Either way, great videos!

    • @jameswyatt1304
      @jameswyatt1304 5 років тому +6

      Well, they're *part* of why I love this channel...

    • @StarkRG
      @StarkRG 5 років тому +1

      Just wait 'til part 3

  • @jimnms
    @jimnms 5 років тому +926

    Power Over Optical Fiber, or POOF. It sounds magical.

    • @KevinLyda
      @KevinLyda 4 роки тому +67

      I'm imagining teeny-tiny solar panels.

    • @KriLL325783
      @KriLL325783 4 роки тому +49

      Actually it's using micro solar sails arranged in a circle around an axle, making it spin and generate power in copper coils.
      What do you mean that's a water wheel?

    • @encycl07pedia-
      @encycl07pedia- 4 роки тому +32

      Power over optical pipes... Sounds like shit.

    • @nacoran
      @nacoran 4 роки тому +6

      Glassy polymers? There are transparent materials that are also electrical conductors, but they tend to be brittle, but they are working on that problem.
      newatlas.com/transparent-conductive-polymer/53983/

    • @filminginportland1654
      @filminginportland1654 4 роки тому

      MeanJim lol
      Would be amazing if physics worked that way, but alas it doesn’t.

  • @rikkir6229
    @rikkir6229 3 роки тому +302

    I've worked in Optical Fiber production for a very large, very well known glass company for going on 5 years, and still learned some very understandable points concerning dispersion and distortion. Points that were explained to me, but never as well as you've explained here. Great video!

    • @pinheadlarry1019
      @pinheadlarry1019 Рік тому +8

      Wouldn't happen to work for Corning would you? Because if so I do too

    • @jessihawkins9116
      @jessihawkins9116 Рік тому +5

      what company? Is it Corning? Just say so 😩

    • @eviltux65
      @eviltux65 11 місяців тому

      Unwatchable

    • @jessihawkins9116
      @jessihawkins9116 11 місяців тому +3

      it was Corning wasn’t it

  • @MrRadar
    @MrRadar 5 років тому +681

    You should do a video on the history of Ethernet, from its origins as the networking protocol for the Xerox Alto, to an IEEE standard, the various cables it used, Attachment Unit Interfaces, "vampire taps", hubs vs switches, etc. It's a whole fascinating world of obsolete technology.

    • @ragingbombast
      @ragingbombast 5 років тому +29

      I miss vamp taps. I mean, they were horrible and I'd rather kill myself than actually set up a network with it now, but they're neat.

    • @deefdragon
      @deefdragon 5 років тому +33

      and it would cover the cat 5/6/7/8 (8 technically exist) cables and how those are all then part of the Ethernet family. It could also covor RJ45 vs 8p8c etc.

    • @mattiviljanen8109
      @mattiviljanen8109 5 років тому +34

      I so look forward to token ring explanation drawing with collisions and every party shouting and it's a mess and that's why want to see it!

    • @deadsi
      @deadsi 5 років тому +3

      Maybe the ppl that made the brave little toaster should make a sequel about it instead

    • @NathanaelDuke
      @NathanaelDuke 5 років тому +8

      I would watch this with my eyes glued to the screen, lol. I love old network standards, especially how physical issues like end of cable reflection had to be solved with terminators and stuff like that. ^_^

  • @vchip77
    @vchip77 5 років тому +295

    My dad was one of the engineers for Corning’s Thunderbolt project and it failed exactly why you said: no consumer needed that much bandwidth and therefore wouldn’t pay the exorbitant price for a Corning branded product. I’ve been to the plant where the manufacturing equipment for those cables sits collecting dust, just waiting for the consumer to adopt fiber optic cable

    • @ashishpatel350
      @ashishpatel350 4 роки тому +16

      Who knows maybe with external ssds people may want more bandwidth.

    • @DanHarkless_Halloween_YTPs_etc
      @DanHarkless_Halloween_YTPs_etc 4 роки тому +10

      Wow! Thanks for the inside scoop on that, Daniel. That's a shame it didn't work out for them - Corning certainly makes some amazing glass.

    • @mor4y
      @mor4y 3 роки тому +1

      Ya'know that external SSD idea is a interesting one.... if the M2 or whatever they're called versions were used, not sata ones. I wonder if a PCI-e to corning's thunderbolt bridge could be made 🤔

    • @maiklorenz9348
      @maiklorenz9348 3 роки тому +2

      @@mor4y i see no reason why not, espacally as you need "only" PCI-e 1x and not the extremly bulky exorbitant bandwith x16 used for graphics cards to run m2, which as you already implizitly said is just plain PCI-e, which in fact is just PCI, but faster. So the encoding is not that hard, and the bandwith is so exorbitant, just becouse of high clock speed as this Standard is only used for ver, short distances, like only on Motherboards,which are usually not bigger that ATX standard. But you would need power to run your SSD, so at least you need 5v 500ma or Something,no problem for Thunderbold, but for optic fibre only ot could be, althought if this cable supports thunderbold Standard, it will already has a copper wire to provide the power needed, so you can use this to power a little decoder encoder device at each end of your cable, to translate between the thunderbold bus protocol and the PCI-e bus protocol, wich should be done easy by a litte Microcontroller. But you ran into another problem here, you have many physical wires in PCI-e for doing stuff like check if a divice is even plugged in into the port, as well as many tx and dx channels, you all need to translate to some sort of code, you send over your faster fibre thunderbold to get this read correct on the other end. But its nothing unsolvable, and in fact that would give you the opportunity to put an m2 ultra fast SSD outside of a pc or Laptop, or even 100m away. And as soon as any manufacturer supports it directly this coul just be used like usb3 is for HDD and "non nvme/non m2" SSD today. With Thunderbold or usb-c, becouse it is in fact the same protocol, just different jacks and speeds. So that means, as soon as someone develop a port for this you could use super ultra unbelivable fast SSDs, just by plug and play as if your using a usb Stick. And will likely couse Manufakturers to just take this adapter, put in an m2 SSD and sell it as super fast pen drive. Amazing, i hope someone builds this, this would mean you could move data so freaking fast and easy and cheap, couse you will not need any wires... Just the plain adapter and ram it into your pc, and there you go. This also would make it possible to have your SSDs mounted into a pc as HDDs are and gets rid of the need to screw this things directly on the Mainboard, wich in fact limits it to 2 or 3 per Mainboard, compared to about 5 HDD you could place in an average pc case so you by then are just Limited by the cpu itself, which is getting faster and faster each Generation, and having more Channels supporting such high bandwith connectors. To sum it up, i think Yes. Possible.

    • @Anvilshock
      @Anvilshock 3 роки тому +4

      Since when has "no consumer needed" and "exorbitant price" ever been a reason for an Apple-device customer?

  • @soupsandwch
    @soupsandwch 5 років тому +378

    “Just by calling a specific number and having your computer screech at another one...” I like this description of dial-up

    • @imark7777777
      @imark7777777 5 років тому

      @@fsmoura or are they meeting?

    • @joeconti2396
      @joeconti2396 5 років тому +19

      I mean really that's what it was. It was one computer yelling at another until the other yelled back. Then they both got along in the end and boom. Internet.

    • @GashimahironChl
      @GashimahironChl 5 років тому +8

      One computer yelling, and another one patiently waiting for it's turn to yell, specifically, and then the pc who yelled would also patiently listen until the other one finished.
      This is why when the machines finally take over the planet, and potentially put out brains in jars, i'll be a satisfied brain-in-a-jar!

  • @Bloodray19
    @Bloodray19 3 роки тому +519

    I just found this channel yesterday. Watched a couple of videos. These carry a very very interesting overall aura, the host guy is loveable and dedicated, the quality is superb. I just wanted to thank you for producing these kind of videos

    • @DougSalad
      @DougSalad Рік тому +16

      Yeah, Alec kicks ass and we love him.

    • @arivandiver7580
      @arivandiver7580 11 місяців тому +5

      I really do like these videos. It's him talking about something he's either passionate or at least interested in, in a way that is informational for a viewer who's never watched his videos before, AND in a way that really scratches that 'tism itch the way other informational channels don't

    • @AdmiralQuality
      @AdmiralQuality 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah he's good. I'm definitely addicted.

    • @dunar1005
      @dunar1005 10 місяців тому +1

      his videos feel like a wholesome 90 tv show talking about future technology

  • @YOUTY209
    @YOUTY209 5 років тому +385

    As an enthusiast, I am very offended that not all tech is developed specifically for me.

    • @vitalsignscritical
      @vitalsignscritical 5 років тому +10

      Yeah if it was developed for the enthusiasts it would be the best it could be.

    • @YOUTY209
      @YOUTY209 5 років тому +2

      I do, on other platforms my name is Kitten Jesus.

    • @worstuserever
      @worstuserever 5 років тому +13

      As an enthusiast, I'm not offended that tech isn't developed specifically for me. I am offended that it isn't all developed specifically *by* me.

    • @Sinjinator
      @Sinjinator 5 років тому +1

      Damn casual consumer majority... *grumble grumble splice splice*

    • @lobsterbark
      @lobsterbark 5 років тому +1

      @@vitalsignscritical It would also be needlessly expensive and probably have strange quirks.

  • @baganatube
    @baganatube 5 років тому +917

    I think a USB rant video would be quite enjoyable to watch.

    • @grizzly6699
      @grizzly6699 5 років тому +16

      Hear hear

    • @sogero2
      @sogero2 5 років тому +4

      DO EEET!

    • @juri14111996
      @juri14111996 5 років тому +5

      its called display link and its only usable for office applications, watching video dosn't work.

    • @mattiviljanen8109
      @mattiviljanen8109 5 років тому +11

      Ah, the USB rebranding. I just use USB 2, USB ⌊3⌋ and USB-C in speech.

    • @juri14111996
      @juri14111996 5 років тому +3

      @@mattiviljanen8109 usb 2 and are standarts, C is just a Connector. some usb c just carry 5V at max 500ma, no data, other usb carry 100w (20v@5A) and 40gb/s of data.

  • @daveb5041
    @daveb5041 5 років тому +826

    *I like to piss off audiophools by replacing my fiberoptic with rusty coat hangers soldered together (using plumbers flux and a blow torch) to hook up the digital out and marvel at the sound quality* shh its the same

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 років тому +118

      LOL... you could also use one inch copper water pipes to carry the sound acoustically. xD

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 4 роки тому +25

      @@BillAnt That would reduce your edge effect in the conductors...

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 4 роки тому +26

      @MonkeyJedi99 < The pun is on the "pipe", actually carrying the sound acoustically instead of the signal. ;)

    • @FroggyMosh
      @FroggyMosh 4 роки тому +31

      @@BillAnt When mounting the equipment be sure to account for duty cycles though. Account for pressure and contortion through heating and cooling. If supported inadequately and mounted too rigidly, built up torsion in the pipes'll rip the screws right out of your walls one day.
      Oh, I might be thinking of my bedroom radiator. But the same rules may well apply in the realms of audio too.

    • @flowinsounds
      @flowinsounds 4 роки тому +23

      i'm just imagining the look of an audiophile setup with proper audio pipes made of braised copper. It has to be done.

  • @noiseismylife
    @noiseismylife 2 роки тому +144

    The content on this channel is absolutely exceptional. I can't get over how well presented and written all episodes are. My wife, who normally shies away from engaging in my incessant tech related banter, really enjoyed it. That's saying something about the quality of the writing. Amazing

  • @sonycans
    @sonycans 4 роки тому +178

    At my parent's home in Malaysia, I used a fibre optic link between the houses.
    The reason is that there are strong electrical storms and between the home office and the house a lightning can strike the ground or a nearby tree, the currect enters the cable and damages the equipment at both locations.
    The fibre optical cable acts as an opto-isolator against lightning strikes.

    • @gtsteel
      @gtsteel 20 днів тому

      I'm pretty sure that this opto-isolator property was the exact reason behind the design of toslink. Plenty of consumer grade audio equipment has shorts between one of the wires of an audio input and the chassis, and when those inputs are connected to something with powered by a grounded secondary, the chassis and the entire grounding network it's connected to becomes part of signal path, leading to all sorts of interference (such as the ignition coil in my car's stereo when a phone is plugged into the aux cord while charging it). The big problem with consumer electrical SPDIF (unlike AES/EBU, which uses RS422 transcievers on each side), if that it will get a signal through when there is a short between negative and the chassis, but it will do so badly. The fact that at worked at all with this problem meant that many defective and badly-designed units left their factories, giving SPDIF a bad name.
      Toslink, on the other hand is literally impossible to short since it's optical, giving it the nice property that an input is almost always either working or totally dead, making it very easy for a buyer to test at home. My guess is that it was designed by an engineer who was sick and tired of dealing with shorts.
      PS. If you own equipment that has an input shorted to chassis, driving it through an isolation transformer will usually make it work properly. Adding one to the line-in saved my car's stereo.

  • @Wertercat
    @Wertercat 4 роки тому +2102

    You forgot the most important part of switching to USB3: MAKING THE PORT BLUE

    • @williamreid6255
      @williamreid6255 4 роки тому +12

      wertercatt YASS

    • @EdwardMillen
      @EdwardMillen 4 роки тому +82

      Or green, if you're Razer 🤷‍♂️

    • @ronnycook3569
      @ronnycook3569 4 роки тому +120

      It's because blue is faster, like Blu-Ray.
      It used to be that we thought black electronics, like red cars, were faster. Those were simpler days.

    • @mrbisshie
      @mrbisshie 4 роки тому +13

      What color will USB 4.0 ports be?!

    • @353Tensa353
      @353Tensa353 4 роки тому +66

      @@mrbisshie rainbow cause all your data is at the end of it already

  • @kmemz
    @kmemz 5 років тому +192

    When talking about modal dispersion, and TIR, you missed two points.
    One, is that if there are any bends in the cable, TIR applies anyway; that's the only reason that you can get light on the other end, even if your cable is coiled several times over.
    The other, is that almost all modal dispersion is almost completely remedied by using lasers in place of LEDs, alongside using higher quality fiber strands with less imperfections. As well as using single mode fiber cabling in multi-mode systems.You did mention that lasers make fiber faster, but you didn't provide the why, even though you explained the how beforehand.
    Another thing to consider, is that fiber doesn't handle kinking very well. You can staple a CAT5e cable to a wall, and crush it into a kink, or bend it 180° to where unbending gives it a permanent bulge, and it will still have a chance of functioning, even if not ideal. But Fiber will break instantly, immediately, and almost irreparably the moment it gets in any of these tough situations, unless the sleeving is reinforced. And sleeve reinforcements only help with some of the problems.
    It's probably impossible to fully cover every aspect properly, without making a heavily edited three hour document with multiple takes for each section.

    • @TechnologyConnections
      @TechnologyConnections  5 років тому +76

      Thank you for this extra info, and *especially* thank you for the last sentence.

    • @johnnylavoie
      @johnnylavoie 5 років тому +6

      The modal dispersion example he provide is only a simplification. It's a complicated subject. You shouldn't crush with a staple or kink your cat cables... same as for hdmi. There is a minimum 1inch bend radius on your Cat5e that you should use. And use insulated staples. Fiber optics is less fragile than you think, and will be able to take a lot of beating, if you select the proper fiber for the job and are not at the limits for the usable length. If you expect physical abuse, you should get armored cables, be it fibers, CAT or power.

    • @kmemz
      @kmemz 5 років тому +19

      @@johnnylavoie I work with the stuff, I know how sturdy the stuff is, I spent two years learning about it along with pretty much every other aspect about hardware, software and security. What you said was valid, but I'm just trying to provide extreme examples where copper can, just barely, prevail. I've had coworkers use fiber cabling like whips as a joke without damaging them, and I've had coworkers look at them wrong and break them. But while abusing copper in the same ways is a bane to copper cables as well, they are far more resilient to complete signal loss when thrown in the same situations. Not to mention that terminating the end of a copper CAT5e cable with an RJ45 8P8C is much easier than working with .55/.65μm multi-, and especially .45μm single-mode fiber, and requires zero toxic adhesives regardless of the type of end you use on it.
      Jeez, this is the most active comment I've had in a while.

    • @smokeduv
      @smokeduv 5 років тому +1

      Curiously though, CAT5 cables have been made more and more complicated and more delicate because of interference and many other things

    • @blackhatfreak
      @blackhatfreak 5 років тому +1

      @@kmemz nerd

  • @shawn576
    @shawn576 3 роки тому +58

    With respect to the ground loop thing at the beginning, we get around that in automation systems by only grounding the panel side. Cat5 going to the panel has a grounded metal rj45, but cat5 to the device side has an ungrounded plastic rj45. When dealing with systems that use a lot of power (100A at 480V), there's no practical or cost effective way to remove ground imbalances

  • @matthewmiller6068
    @matthewmiller6068 5 років тому +976

    IT person...we call it "ethernet cable" or "network cable" too. It's easier than getting into the debate of hand me the cat5/cat5e/cat6/whatever cable.

    • @MrIzzy5466
      @MrIzzy5466 5 років тому +199

      My brother: "I don't care what it's called, hand me the Goddamn cable."

    • @matthewmiller6068
      @matthewmiller6068 4 роки тому +74

      @@MrIzzy5466 I feel like we also just say "thing" or "whatyacallit" a lot too. Which is fine, we all know what we mean.

    • @morgfarm1
      @morgfarm1 4 роки тому +36

      I'm guilty of calling it an RJ45 connector at the end of my Network cable.
      Network Cable is just more generalized. Cat5e is still common. Cat 6 is common. Cat 7 is meh, Cat 8, Supposedly, is basically next last I looked, but that was last year, so what do I know?
      It has the right number of pins and the right number of wires, how many twists does it have in the pairs is the largest and most notable difference in the Cat specs the last time I checked.

    • @encycl07pedia-
      @encycl07pedia- 4 роки тому +37

      CompSci major: I call them noodles.

    • @BlakeJay
      @BlakeJay 4 роки тому +120

      If you say hand "me the Ethernet cable", I'm handing you the closest Ethernet cable ASAP. If you say "hand me the Cat5e cable" I'm going to be squinting at the sheath to find the class before handing it off.

  • @ergosteur
    @ergosteur 5 років тому +625

    "To put it simply.... It's complicated." I nearly spit out my coffee lol.

    • @wlan246
      @wlan246 5 років тому +20

      Short answer, no. Long answer: noooooooooooooooooo.

    • @iwinrar5207
      @iwinrar5207 5 років тому

      The case often lol

    • @OneEightZero180
      @OneEightZero180 5 років тому +5

      This should be the motto of this channel :D

    • @TravisTev
      @TravisTev 5 років тому

      Man, I didn't even notice that pun.

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth 5 років тому

      🤣🤣 I love this channel

  • @Andrew-ep4kw
    @Andrew-ep4kw 4 роки тому +844

    "stupid physics making everything more difficult" - the lament of every designer, engineer and architect :-)

    • @1FatLittleMonkey
      @1FatLittleMonkey 4 роки тому +55

      And physicist.

    • @billysgeo
      @billysgeo 4 роки тому +31

      Designer and architect yeah... the engineer is the one that has to bring the bad news to them!

    • @broklond
      @broklond 4 роки тому +7

      and chemists

    • @nuwang2381
      @nuwang2381 4 роки тому +9

      And highschool students

    • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
      @jed-henrywitkowski6470 4 роки тому +3

      @@billysgeo Basically the emotional Vs. the logical.

  • @icanrunat3200mhz
    @icanrunat3200mhz 3 роки тому +36

    Backwards compatibility with your "UniLINK™" connector could be achieved in the same fashion as the micro-USB 3 connector. Simply build extra connections for the next-gen around the original ones, still ensuring that the older style could plug in to a smaller portion of the larger next-gen jack and still operate seamlessly at the lower bandwidth.

  • @Zhixalom
    @Zhixalom 4 роки тому +505

    "To put it simply: it's complicated!" - It should be a bumper sticker, on a coffee mug or a T-shirt or something... Seriously, I would buy that T-shirt.

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing 3 роки тому +15

      Pretty sure every engineer in the world would want that shirt. :)

    • @donadams5503
      @donadams5503 3 роки тому +12

      I'm an engineer, I want the coffee mug asap.

    • @IanPattisonOakville
      @IanPattisonOakville 3 роки тому +13

      I like to say, "It's not hard. It's extremely complicated, but it's not hard."

    • @JeremiahFernandez
      @JeremiahFernandez 3 роки тому +1

      when anyone asks anything about your job

    • @seriouscat2231
      @seriouscat2231 3 роки тому +4

      @@IanPattisonOakville, thanks. I have caught myself a few times now saying the exact opposite about theological and metaphysical concepts. "It's hard. It's not that complicated. But it's hard."

  • @PedanticNo1
    @PedanticNo1 5 років тому +315

    The production quality, humor, and general structure opf your videos continues to improve. Rock on.

    • @aaron74
      @aaron74 5 років тому +10

      Improve? That suggests he was at one time bad. I just think he keeps going from awesome to "awesomer" with each new release.

    • @amicloud_yt
      @amicloud_yt 5 років тому +5

      @@aaron74 I think maybe a better term would be "develop". It feels like he is having more fun with it as time goes on and I think it's great. It's like more of his personality is shining through if that makes sense?

    • @hokkypro
      @hokkypro 5 років тому +1

      Agreed, love his videos they just become better and better!

    • @hudde814
      @hudde814 5 років тому +1

      @Joe Kinchicken "Everyone loves fat guy technodweeb"
      I'll have you know that they do in fact lo-
      "The only reason I'm a subscriber"
      Not gonna lie, you had us in the first half.

    • @PedanticNo1
      @PedanticNo1 5 років тому +1

      @Joe Kinchicken as a gay guy, I didn't realize that he is gay. I just assumed he is a bit more effeminate.
      Now I like this channel even more! In-group bias FTW.

  • @gasdive
    @gasdive 5 років тому +336

    There's only one solution to ground loop and clock jitter.
    Sheet music!

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 років тому +35

      People always call my music sheet.

    • @jk9554
      @jk9554 5 років тому +25

      are you insane? With the "human element" playing it, the "clock jitter" is the worst!
      (OK, some call it "groove", but what do I know? :p)

    • @dragonfireproductions790
      @dragonfireproductions790 5 років тому +7

      It does bring benefits to get BACH to basic :) works like a canon in the old age. It's really nice to note

    • @Sypaka
      @Sypaka 5 років тому +3

      Or make music using the ground loop and clock jitter noises and call it "Glitch".
      Waaaait a sec...

    • @user-zq6pj5jo8j
      @user-zq6pj5jo8j 5 років тому

      @@Sypaka That's a new kind of Electronica Techno music...heheh

  • @pinheadlarry1019
    @pinheadlarry1019 Рік тому +15

    I actually work for Corning and get to make those fiberoptic cables, and you did a pretty good job explaining it

    • @David-vw5hf
      @David-vw5hf 11 місяців тому

      Tell Corning to stop putting 10 foot fiber patch cables on DAMN REELS. THEY DONT NEED AN ENTIRE REEL.

  • @HungryGuyStories
    @HungryGuyStories 5 років тому +508

    Well, if TOS Link is okay, we should move up to TNG Link or even DS9 Link.

    • @Phobos_Anomaly
      @Phobos_Anomaly 5 років тому +18

      It even comes with built in LCARS for any video applications!

    • @Ruiluth
      @Ruiluth 5 років тому +30

      No, that path leads to VOY Link, ENT Link, and DSC Link. Probably better to leave well enough alone.

    • @usseal922
      @usseal922 5 років тому +11

      Well, KelvinLink sure has a great optical bandwidth with all the lens flares

    • @leopold7562
      @leopold7562 5 років тому +19

      @@Ruiluth At least VOY link allows us to go much further than we ever thought possible, I guess.

    • @brianmiller1077
      @brianmiller1077 5 років тому +16

      DS9 Link took a while to get going, but it's great by version 3 or 4.

  • @richardjohnson8197
    @richardjohnson8197 4 роки тому +209

    I love this channel, he has a way of explaining technical information for the masses that doesn't have the "dumbing down" feel. Educational & enjoyable.

    • @BrendarthGaming
      @BrendarthGaming 2 роки тому +6

      I think it's usually because if he can't explain it well he admits it hurts his brain and doesn't even really try to explain in depth.

    • @rpocc
      @rpocc 2 роки тому

      You’re seem to be god damn right about it: a perfect balance between geekiness and understandability of the material to anybody with a basic mid school education.

    • @rpocc
      @rpocc 2 роки тому +1

      @@BrendarthGaming Actually highlighting essential principles from technical specifications, patent and articles, and rephrasing that in a simple manner is a true art. This guy could write books based just on his scenarios

  • @Sheepy007
    @Sheepy007 5 років тому +143

    Why Toslink is superior? Easy. Toslink glows red.
    You know what else glows red?
    Terminator eyes.
    case closed.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 5 років тому +2

      The red signal goes faster

    • @gianluca.g
      @gianluca.g 5 років тому

      @@andymerrett that's MOS, not TOS

    • @renakunisaki
      @renakunisaki 4 роки тому +3

      @@joshmbrown42 that's for the next version of TOSlink with embedded DRM. "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't play that."

    • @atlys258
      @atlys258 3 роки тому

      Well damn, I'm sold.

  • @coreyoilar6260
    @coreyoilar6260 4 роки тому +13

    Props to you my man, you make very informative videos. I've been an a/v engineer all my life and I learn something new each time I watch one of your videos! :)

  • @ObiWanBillKenobi
    @ObiWanBillKenobi 4 роки тому +149

    I really love your background. Each square/cube is its own visual, aesthetic, and geeky world, all joined beautifully together by a neutral black grid.

    • @JonnyD3ath
      @JonnyD3ath 3 роки тому +9

      He did a video on it before, go have a watch!

    • @JonnyD3ath
      @JonnyD3ath 3 роки тому +5

      ua-cam.com/video/plbB42EUIUU/v-deo.html

  • @KurosakiYukigo
    @KurosakiYukigo 5 років тому +808

    *THE HI-FI GODS JUDGE THEE FROM THEIR VINYL THRONE*

    • @MysteryMii
      @MysteryMii 5 років тому +81

      *AND THEIR 96K/24-BIT CUSHION*

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 років тому +65

      @@MysteryMii Um, excuse me. My Schiit can render 32bit 192khz.

    • @Fearnil
      @Fearnil 5 років тому +9

      @@CaveyMoth BLASPHEMY!

    • @emini6
      @emini6 5 років тому +41

      The human ears cannot listen no more than 20FPS (20 KHz)

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 років тому +13

      @@Fearnil But I usually run my setup at 24bit/44.1khz, because that's what the music I listen to is encoded in. Gotta keep everything bit perfect.

  • @user-dj1hy6zc6q
    @user-dj1hy6zc6q 5 років тому +98

    That Power over Ethernet (POE) revelation at the end was good. I am glad that I watched it all of the way to the end. You are entertaining.

    • @feha92
      @feha92 5 років тому +9

      I suspect it is called PoE because CAT cables are built to support the standard just as they are built to support the ethernet standard. Seems simpler for people to use that than "power over cat Xy" where the numbers change depending on each cable, and a good analog is how there are many car models, but the transit is called "moving by car", and if you send power(banks) its called "shipping by car" rather than "shipping by volvo5". Or in other words: its called that way because while not totally logical or accurate, it is simply the way humans thinks of stuff when they label them. Because we are cute creatures like that.

    • @alphaxion
      @alphaxion 5 років тому +6

      @@feha92 PoE exists in layer 2 and uses the L2 protocol Ethernet to negotiate with the switch and tell it what class of device it is and what sort of power it requires with the help of additional protocols such as CDP, if you're using Cisco kit. The cable is just the layer 1 component.

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 5 років тому

      @@feha92 *power (banks)
      *it's called (contraction of "it is/has")
      it's = possessive pronoun
      *humans think

    • @feha92
      @feha92 5 років тому

      @@alvallac2171 All store entries has it written as powerbank, as a new conjoined word to describe the object, rather than two separate nouns.
      Do you really expect me to use "'" for its, dont, etc. in a youtube comment (although I might do it for you're)?
      Yeah, 'think' shouldnt have an s there, you are correct.

    • @Carewolf
      @Carewolf 5 років тому

      @@feha92 CAT cables?? The cables are TP, cat is short for category, that is a specification of how mucht that specific TP cable can carry.

  • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
    @jed-henrywitkowski6470 2 роки тому +27

    I greatly appreciate my toslink.
    Especially since my equipment is of various generations.

    • @Dee_Just_Dee
      @Dee_Just_Dee Місяць тому

      TOSLINK is a neat little standard. Equally at home on a brand new TV or soundbar as on a 30 year old CD player... for stereo, anyway.

  • @duane8620
    @duane8620 4 роки тому +320

    "Wait, it's called *Power over Ethernet* ? Interesting." Haha, love this channel!!

    • @DigitalBenny
      @DigitalBenny 3 роки тому +13

      It was such a passive aggressive jab 😏😂

    • @waqasahmed939
      @waqasahmed939 3 роки тому +7

      I thought it was quite funny too. I guess, he didn't however mention that the 802.3bt standard can in theory allow us to send 95W of power through a single cable, but the network switches that do that atm, are insanely expensive and it also requires you to have 802.3bt capable devices on the other end
      It'd be interesting given that in theory, you could have a network switch and then convert to USB C for the last few devices, and do away with physical plugs for every laptop, TV, monitor etc...
      Though you would probably need more wall ports / switch ports.
      But, hey it's definitely a far neater and safer way to power up stuff without overloading your mains sockets

  • @lexscarlet
    @lexscarlet 4 роки тому +157

    "delivering... 'must watch' television programming..."
    You can almost HEAR the air quotes.

  • @ceebee
    @ceebee 4 роки тому +117

    "Why not create some kind of composite cable? .... no, not that kind"
    Genuinely made me chuckle.

  • @dunar1005
    @dunar1005 10 місяців тому +5

    20:58
    1. Raman Scattering: Raman amplifiers use the Raman scattering effect for signal amplification. In these amplifiers, a pump laser injects photons into the fiber at a different wavelength from the signal. These photons interact with the glass in the fiber, transferring energy to the signal photons and amplifying them. This process is considered passive because it amplifies the signal directly in the fiber without electronic intervention.
    2. **Erbium-Doped Fiber Amplifiers (EDFAs)**: While EDFAs do require an external pump laser, the amplification process itself is passive regarding the data signal. The data-carrying light passes through an erbium-doped section of fiber, where it is amplified by stimulated emission. There's no electronic processing or modulation of the data signal during this process.
    3. **Fiber Bragg Gratings (FBGs)**: These are not amplifiers but can be used in conjunction with amplifiers for wavelength-specific signal enhancement. FBGs can reflect specific wavelengths while allowing others to pass, which can be used to stabilize and enhance the efficiency of EDFAs.
    4. **Optical Add-Drop Multiplexers (OADMs)**: In wavelength division multiplexed (WDM) systems, OADMs can add or drop specific wavelength channels from a fiber without converting them to electronic signals. This can be seen as a form of passive signal management, although not amplification per se.
    5. **Passive Optical Networks (PONs)**: In PONs, signals are distributed passively using fiber splitters. While this doesn't amplify the signal, it's a key example of passive data transmission in fiber networks.
    In each of these cases, the focus is on enhancing or managing the optical signal in its native form (as light), without active electronic processing. This approach is beneficial for reducing latency, improving reliability, and enhancing the overall efficiency of the fiber optic communication system.

  • @Hashtag_Laser
    @Hashtag_Laser 4 роки тому +320

    “Just by calling a specific phone number and having your computer screech at another one, you’re online!”
    -. - he knows...•. •’

    • @ulischmidt03
      @ulischmidt03 4 роки тому +10

      I am pretty sure that is just the internet today

    • @HyperVectra
      @HyperVectra 3 роки тому +1

      @Opecuted 9600 baud

  • @ScorpioHighlander
    @ScorpioHighlander 5 років тому +79

    "To put it simply, it's complicated." My new favourite answer to any question I can't or can't be bothered to answer. XD

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 років тому +3

      That's what I say about my ex too. xD

  • @Cruznick06
    @Cruznick06 5 років тому +105

    My god this is one of my favorite episodes just from your "YoU'vE AnGeReD tHe ____ GoDs" bits. Thank you. Your videos are so informative also entertaining.

    • @gltovar
      @gltovar 2 роки тому

      yeah, instant thumbs up click from me

  • @qaldiga
    @qaldiga 3 роки тому +8

    Even for cases where isolation is critical, there are pretty good ways of doing it with copper, including the use of balanced cables in the audio world.

  • @atkinsondp
    @atkinsondp 5 років тому +155

    Every tech developers meeting starts the same way.
    1: assume consumers are morons
    2: what's for lunch

    • @MrBearyMcBearface
      @MrBearyMcBearface 5 років тому +16

      Most of them are.

    • @leverloos
      @leverloos 5 років тому +8

      99.9% of them are though.

    • @kargaroc386
      @kargaroc386 5 років тому +1

      @Luke Bilston What about those ominous ellipses huh?

    • @sammiches2555
      @sammiches2555 5 років тому +1

      Most consumers are dumb. That's why they need everything so simple.

    • @stevesedio1656
      @stevesedio1656 5 років тому +6

      Actually, we assume consumers are brilliant. How else can they come up with such innovative ways to break things...

  • @LMacNeill
    @LMacNeill 5 років тому +337

    Those beginning "silly" parts were actually hilarious!
    And what will they call power over optical fiber? POOF? As in POOF, it's magic? 😂

    • @SreenikethanI
      @SreenikethanI 5 років тому +17

      hehehe "POOF" is a nice name

    • @ian_b
      @ian_b 5 років тому +8

      Its a nice name but unfortunately at least in the UK, "poof" is a (these days, somewhat old fashioned) term of abuse for gay people so probably not.

    • @sageosaka
      @sageosaka 5 років тому +11

      +1 for POOF

    • @ballsrgrossnugly
      @ballsrgrossnugly 5 років тому +11

      @@ian_b Yeah but if you wanna go even more old fashioned, it's the name of the little foot stool in front of your couch when you watch top of the pops on sundey guvna!

    • @dan_loup
      @dan_loup 5 років тому +3

      The high power laser ones could be called JBC (James Bond Cutter).

  • @WalnutSpice
    @WalnutSpice 5 років тому +141

    You know how to really piss of audiophiles?
    "Why Type 1 Ferric Cassette with Dolby NR was peak audio; A Thread"

    • @dieseldiesel9292
      @dieseldiesel9292 5 років тому +12

      Guess I'm not an audiophile because I don't understand this comment.

    • @deanchur
      @deanchur 5 років тому +16

      Be thankful for that, oDieselz. I understood Walnut Spice but I also like listening to music and not just the gear it's played on.

    • @Nandru85
      @Nandru85 5 років тому +6

      Ferric? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    • @Nandru85
      @Nandru85 5 років тому +6

      @@dieseldiesel9292 Type 1 cassettes were the cheapest anf crappiest cassettes made, their sound quality was average at best

    • @seijiamasawa2320
      @seijiamasawa2320 5 років тому +3

      That's rich lmao

  • @RichardBetel
    @RichardBetel 2 роки тому +3

    Ok, I realize it's about 3 years late, but I think I can explain the optical amplifier thing:
    first: how do lasers work? basically, you get some atoms excited. Their electrons are in higher orbits than normal; then you send a photon past them. if it's path is close enough, the electrons are convinced to dump their extra energy as another photon, and return to their normal orbit. The new photon is the same phase, frequency and direction as the first photon. This is called stimulated emission, the "se" part of "laser".
    The first lasers were polished rods of synthetic ruby, surrounded by a very bright light, with mirrors on the end. The bright light excited the atoms in the ruby, and sooner or later, a stray photon would cause the laser to fire in a cascade. Replace that ruby with some special glass, sized to match the fibre-optics, and you've got an optical amplifier.
    As with analog electronic amplifiers, it'll amplify the flaws in the signal along with the good signal, *but* some of the flaws in the signal will be because the laser-diode that created the signal won't create a single perfect colour, it makes a small range (laser diodes are actually pretty crappy lasers). Depending on how it's made, it's possible for the optical amplifier to be tuned to reject some of that noise.

    • @CattyRayheart
      @CattyRayheart 25 днів тому

      thank you I checked the comments for an explanation.

  • @nnelg8139
    @nnelg8139 5 років тому +294

    "I was mad at 1+ for ditching [the headphone jack], but today I rarely miss it."
    I hear you say through my wired headphone.

    • @Ck87JF
      @Ck87JF 5 років тому +15

      I heard him say it on my OnePlus 6t over my Bluetooth headphones, though I could have plugged the headphones' wire into the USB C adapter and then heard it via a wired connection.

    • @Andreeexp
      @Andreeexp 5 років тому +9

      And I'm using my older phone because I lost my 3.5mm jack adapter few days ago D:

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 5 років тому +20

      The only wireless headphones I use are an RF set around the house, so I can keep listening when I get up from the computer (though they are the better part of 20 years old by now and are rather slow to start up, probably due to old capacitors). For going out, wired all the way. Insurance against them falling out and getting lost.

    • @Ck87JF
      @Ck87JF 5 років тому +3

      @@Andreeexp I've been having weird issues with my 6t receiving calls. I went back to my OnePlus 3t and realized it was trying to take my calls. Tried to fix it and broke the 3t by deleting something I shouldn't have. Whoops. :P

    • @Ck87JF
      @Ck87JF 5 років тому +19

      @@Roxor128 Bluetooth range has gotten insane, especially with higher quality stuff. I leave my phone in my bedroom and take laundry downstairs, go to the kitchen, check the mail at the front door, even go to the car to get something from it. Sometimes audio skips a beat, especially toward the car as it goes to the extremes of its range, but it's pretty great. As to the getting lost comment, I'm not a fan of the "truly wireless" earbuds with absolutely no connection to anything, except friction-hold against your ears. I'm the weirdo with the giant Sennhaiser cans on my head.

  • @costa_marco
    @costa_marco 5 років тому +53

    Might not have been clear on the video: the external diameter of the fiber is the same (125µm). The alignment of the core is critical for single-mode fibers because the core is 8-10µm. The multi-mode fiber has a core of 50 or 62.5µm.
    Connectors are not a problem for single-mode fibers, because they are constructed with a very high tolerance, so anyone can terminate a single-mode optical fiber manually. The real issue is splicing. You need a smart splicing equipment that matches both fiber centers. It is not too expensive anymore. When I worked on the field, it was very expensive.
    My 2¢

    • @nicklaseriksson8863
      @nicklaseriksson8863 5 років тому +5

      Well, maybe not anyone. But I agree that the alignment isn't really a problem anymore. These days we (Nexans Sweden) use UPC polishing for everything meaning an apex offset of

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 років тому +1

      A solution I can think of, is running multiple thin cores bunched together but isolated from each other by microns, this way even if you're a bit off during splicing, chances are that one of the cores would match up. ;)

    • @EliStettner
      @EliStettner 5 років тому

      THE FOOL!

    • @nobodynemoq
      @nobodynemoq 5 років тому +1

      and that's why ether...um, cat5e/cat6e cables are still in use even in applications where you never have to deal with sending power through the network cable. They are very cheap, easy to handle, almost immune to mechanical shocks, and you can cut it, apply connectors, connect to the patchpanels etc. with easy to use, cheap and very simple tools. I remember myself being in high school and using a screwdriver to finish cat5 connectors when I happened to have no crimp tool when I needed it... or modifying patchcord to the cross-cabled patchcord with use of scissors :) Good luck with such applications to the multimode fibers ;)

  • @meh6722
    @meh6722 5 років тому +62

    I like the layout of how you handled the patreon credits. Keep them running while you talk about something else so you can get more people watching to the end. Keep up the great work, bud!

  • @codeslacker77
    @codeslacker77 11 місяців тому +9

    You know why fiber is better than copper in some country in SE Asia? Because fiber cables won't get stolen like its copper counterpart.

  • @adamsfusion
    @adamsfusion 5 років тому +147

    As a professional on thunder and lightning, you fool, your studio is entirely enclosed and wouldn't be subject to such random weather patterns.

    • @WingMaster562
      @WingMaster562 5 років тому +10

      The hi-fi and IT gods can will it.

    • @NourSelim0
      @NourSelim0 5 років тому +4

      Are you also a professional on very very frightening me?

    • @JonasDAtlas
      @JonasDAtlas 5 років тому +1

      @@NourSelim0 This is exactly what I was looking for.

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera 4 роки тому +45

    21:06 - Optical amplifiers work more-or-less the same way lasers do. Incoming light strikes a material that has previously been energized, causing the material to release a new burst of photons with the same properties as the incoming photons.

    • @rudde7251
      @rudde7251 3 роки тому +4

      Will this clear up modal dispersion or will it just relay the problem equally without making it worse?

    • @the_undead
      @the_undead 3 роки тому +4

      @@rudde7251 based off my very limited understanding of the situation, I think they would make the problem ever so slightly better but not by a whole lot

    • @lightwaves1859
      @lightwaves1859 2 роки тому +1

      @@rudde7251 as i understand it, the latter. the main goal with using optical amplification seems to be to avoid the latency brought about by having sluggish electronics involved in relaying the signal.

    • @rudde7251
      @rudde7251 2 роки тому

      @@lightwaves1859 I get the part about latency. What I don't understand is what it accomplishes. Since it's passive, it doesn't introduce new energy into the system, the light doesn't become brighter, so is it cleaning up the signal? If that's the case how? Doe it cut out signal too weak and only emit at the peak brightness?

    • @eldonad
      @eldonad 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@rudde7251I think TC didn't mean passive as in "no energy added to the system" but as in "no electronics needed". The amplification mediums are generally "pumped" by other light sources, but the signal emission is triggered by the incoming light in the fiber directly.

  • @c.a.7844
    @c.a.7844 5 років тому +85

    I accidentally left closed captions on and I'm so glad I did; "Unexpectedly smooth jazz" - lol.

    • @bizzzzzzle
      @bizzzzzzle 5 років тому +6

      C. A. Not unexpected if you watch this channel lol

    • @ki5aok
      @ki5aok 5 років тому +6

      @@bizzzzzzle Apparently it was unexpected for UA-cam.

    • @thundercamel
      @thundercamel 5 років тому +4

      Incomprehensibly smooth jazz

  • @AndreasTriller
    @AndreasTriller 2 роки тому +2

    Wow. I came across your channel as a (non native english-speaking) slightly nerdy guy wanting to be entertained and learn a thing or two. Perfect match. You talk fast and have a huge information density, but it's always still entertaining at the same time. You my friend, create pieces of art.

  • @Zenodilodon
    @Zenodilodon 5 років тому +38

    Optical amplifiers in a nutshell. The smaller the wavelength the more energy it has in a volume of space.
    In vanadate or YAG lasers the pump laser light is at a certain wavelength, often in the 808nm region. When this light hits the pump crystal the photons causie electrons to raise in atomic orbitals and then release light in a larger wavelength with lower energy, such as 808 into 1640 when a Vanadium crystal is pumped.
    Same thing happens with fiber optical amplifiers. The light leaving the transmission source is at a smaller wavelength then when it exits the optical amplifier. The fiber optics in the optical amplifier work the same way, they are doped with a particular atom that can absorb the wavelength and therefor they play the same role as a gain medium. The light entering is a smaller wavelength and is able to be absorbed, then when the electrons drop back down they release a larger wavelength with laser photon energy.
    For example 808nm from source to optical transmitter then this pumps the atoms in the doped fiber loop ( kind of like how black lights make things glow ) and that there you have it, a new fresh laser pulse at a larger wavelength with less energy.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 5 років тому +8

      Damn that's even more awesome than I was expecting, I hope this comment gets pinned.

    • @Zenodilodon
      @Zenodilodon 5 років тому +4

      @@kaitlyn__L I wrote it with my remaining eye.
      If you like laser tech I have a bunch on my channel. I am a freelance optical engineer.

    • @daanwilmer
      @daanwilmer 5 років тому +11

      Simplified version: atoms can become excited and get into a higher energy state, and can then release this energy in the form of a photon of a certain colour, depending on the difference between these energy states. These energy states are at fixed levels, depending on (among others) the atom and its charge, so if you know your material, you know the colour.
      Certain atoms, that we found useful for amplification, can be excited by high-energy photons and can be triggered to release this energy when another photon of the "output" colour comes along. This turns one excited atom and one photon into one base level atom and two photons.
      Put enough of these atoms into your fiber (which is called "doping") and shine the higher-power laser into it, and any input will trigger some of these atoms to release more photos, so that you end up with more photons on the output than in the input, amplifying your signal.

    • @Zenodilodon
      @Zenodilodon 5 років тому +3

      @@daanwilmer A bigger nutshell with less grammar errors! Good addition to this comment!

    • @nthn-
      @nthn- 5 років тому

      So do these passive amps require more energy to be put in at the start, but stop it from dispersing?

  • @AndersEngerJensen
    @AndersEngerJensen 5 років тому +112

    14:30 Welcome to my world. AV rental business where I work, use fiber for our runs all the time. From FOH to stage to the roof/grid etc. Multimode stops at 550m but real life applications stops us at around 300m due to the devices in each end and ir requires a lot of fiber cleaning though. :)

    • @johnarthurkelly
      @johnarthurkelly 5 років тому +6

      Literally watching this video while I unpack 300' MultiDyne fiber cables for a Silverback setup :D

    • @StigDesign
      @StigDesign 5 років тому +1

      Data Elektronikker utdanning? ;D jeg har gått den typen og lært om fiber elektro etc :D

    • @Damindeater
      @Damindeater 5 років тому +3

      As a matter of fact the achievable distance depends on multiple factors like which modulation is used, what symbolrate is used. It also depends, if you use a regular multimode-fiber a graded one or a trenched one. Than there are differences in attenuation an dispersion.

    • @Xanderfied
      @Xanderfied 5 років тому +4

      Yes, can you imagine tech support trying to talk a 70 yr old through cleaning the fiber tips, or God forbid, cutting them to make a new termination?

    • @Xanderfied
      @Xanderfied 5 років тому +5

      "ok sir, you're gonna need some isopropyl alcohol, cotton pads, and a really sharp razor." "No sir, sharper than that, you can rent one of our fiber termination kits!" "No sir, it is an extra charge"

  • @Tall_Order
    @Tall_Order 5 років тому +80

    Fiber digest better than Copper. Gotta have my 2 scoops of raisins. I heard it through the grape vine.

  • @punditgi
    @punditgi 3 роки тому +7

    This is perhaps my favorite techie channel. Brilliant, informative, and highly entertaining! 🤩

  • @ianowens1905
    @ianowens1905 4 роки тому +171

    “Because, ya know, plus 5 agility”
    Leave me alone, it looks cool! 😭😭😭

    • @yuusegawa
      @yuusegawa 3 роки тому +7

      ... well, I use mine to type in the dark

    • @dominiccasts
      @dominiccasts 3 роки тому +2

      @@yuusegawa I use mine to distinguish which layer is currently active

    • @Bacteriophagebs
      @Bacteriophagebs 3 роки тому +7

      The RGB fad has annoyed me because it made it harder to find inexpensive, _single-color,_ lit keyboards. All the cheap keyboards are just static RGB, now. Sure, the good ones have single-color options, but I don't want to pay for the option to make my keyboard act like a cheaper one. I just want my keys lit up with a nice, dim red that won't distract me but is visible even in pitch-blackness, dammit!

    • @yuusegawa
      @yuusegawa 3 роки тому +1

      @@Bacteriophagebs www.newegg.com/tecware-phantom-outemu-brown-black/p/32N-006N-00005?Item=9SIASA0CXY3350 This is the one I got, and it does exactly that at quite a good price

  • @cragonaut
    @cragonaut 5 років тому +58

    When you summarised by saying "we simply have different connectors for different applications" this is totally true however it also fails to recognise the commercial element that goes into many of these decisions. Companies enjoy controlling standards and licensing them to others thereby being able to attract royalties and also lock their customers into 'ecosystems' and product lines. Unfortunately much of the tech decisions we see around us had as much to do with the marketing department and corporate strategists as it did the boffins in the lab.
    Thanks for another great video.

    • @tr3vk4m
      @tr3vk4m 5 років тому +4

      I agree.
      The vast array of irritatingly specific cables is a suitable metaphor for what capitalism does to humans...

    • @antiisocial
      @antiisocial 5 років тому

      Yep.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 5 років тому +1

      Ain't that the truth. Codecs, too. We grew past the need for audio compression formats on optical discs after DVD, but here we are with Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA. Royalty enablers and not much else.

    • @gavinathling
      @gavinathling 5 років тому +1

      @@tr3vk4m And that's why the EU regulated cellphone charging cables.

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 5 років тому

      *extract royalties

  • @michaelgates991
    @michaelgates991 4 роки тому +42

    Was expecting dietary advice from the title. I suppose I'll just substitute my daily fiber supplement with a similar amount of copper for a week and see how that goes.

  • @StopChangingUsernamesYouTube
    @StopChangingUsernamesYouTube 3 роки тому +3

    8:38 This phrase perfectly sums up why I love this channel.

  • @williamreid6255
    @williamreid6255 5 років тому +8

    This is why I love looking at the connections between very similar and different specific technologies through a historical lens.

  • @Hans-gb4mv
    @Hans-gb4mv 5 років тому +54

    Finally, someone who knows what 8P8C is :D
    However, that RJ11-RJ45 on the cable tester would be considered correct in my book since it can test cables with those jacks, regardless of pin configuration.

    • @theblackwidower
      @theblackwidower 5 років тому +5

      Is 8P8C the name of the pin configuration, or the name of the connectors? Because if it's the connectors, then bitching about someone misnaming it is pointlessly argumentative.
      I was always told it was RJ45. Never heard the term '8P8C' before, and I took an entire class on this stuff.

    • @mario65889
      @mario65889 5 років тому +8

      @@theblackwidower RJ-45 is refers to the connector/wire itself, while 8P8C refers to the arrangement of wires inside the connector. Basically, no one will shoot you for referring to it as RJ45 because everyone does it even though it is technically incorrect.

    • @bizzzzzzle
      @bizzzzzzle 5 років тому +2

      mario65889 but it’s not incorrect to call a cable CATx.

    • @mario65889
      @mario65889 5 років тому

      @@bizzzzzzle The wiring inside the cable, not the cable overall.

    • @mario65889
      @mario65889 5 років тому +1

      RJ-45 is the wiring, 8CPC is the plug itself and only the plug for future clarity.

  • @MatthewWalster
    @MatthewWalster 5 років тому +110

    Having spent a huge chunk of the last 15 years dealing with fiber connections, and data centres continuously getting them dirty and having to clean the connectors, I would love it if everything was USB-C.

    • @Kiyoshi_9606
      @Kiyoshi_9606 5 років тому +12

      Apple called. Nope. Sigh.

    • @ElNeroDiablo
      @ElNeroDiablo 5 років тому +10

      Kiyoshi Matsutsuyu eh, even Apple is ditching USB Type-A and their Lightning connector for USB Type-C in newer devices. iPhone X series already is Type-C, I’m pretty sure.

    • @MinoTheShow
      @MinoTheShow 5 років тому +16

      Yeah, Apple has been embracing USB C in a much more head-first way than they typically do with standards they didn’t come up with - iPhones don’t have it yet (though it’s strongly rumored) but the iPad Pros do and the current MBP has 4 C ports, a headphone jack and nothing else. Blaming them for lack of adoption makes zero sense, only reason it hasn’t totally taken over is just that it needs time. Heck I don’t own anything with the port yet but that’s just because I haven’t needed to replace any hardware since it became common

    • @nullpointer1284
      @nullpointer1284 5 років тому +2

      @@ElNeroDiablo iPhone X and XS are still lightning

    • @MatthewWalster
      @MatthewWalster 5 років тому +1

      @@MinoTheShow I'll be honest, with the USB OTG spec available, I'll be surprised if some cunning person doesn't just create some kind of USB switch (in networking terms) and use have some super-dense port layout. Considering USB 3 is 5Gb/s, and there are 10Gb/s and 20Gb/s modes for some, I'm wondering what the problem is. Surely it makes more sense than TwinAx for runs of less than 10m?

  • @MattSeremet
    @MattSeremet 3 роки тому +2

    Such a good one. IDK how many times I've retwatched this. The theatrics throughout and the snark at the end, magnifique!

  • @Ironclad17
    @Ironclad17 5 років тому +62

    There's also how complicated terminating fiber is while anyone with a crimping tool can terminate copper.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 5 років тому +5

      @Klaa2 Still needs a kit rather than one crimping tool though. I don't think some of the guys I've seen installing networking cable in hospitals and offices would do fibre well enough. There's a big margin for error in crimping copper, so it can be basically sort of fine if no double checking of the work occurs.

    • @Valery0p5
      @Valery0p5 5 років тому +2

      Also even if the connector is perfectly clean there's a lot of attenuation so...
      Think about that -USB drive- fiber mass storage device in your pocket

    • @FieroFats
      @FieroFats 5 років тому +6

      I've also never had copper splinters in my hand for a week because I accidentally bumped the cuttings pile. (Used to install the stuff.)

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 5 років тому +2

      @@FieroFats Yep, those cuttings are nasty. Even just tidying up a tiny few from making a one-off cable at home sucks.

    • @mungewell
      @mungewell 5 років тому

      Actually the 'termination of HDMI' is getting really hard... from a PCB point of view. There are a lot of requirements and testing needed for such high bandwidth.

  • @LifeWithMatthew
    @LifeWithMatthew 5 років тому +40

    5:52 - "Well not so fast (pauses to laugh at his own joke)" I seriously love your presentation style!

  • @Yotanido
    @Yotanido 5 років тому +36

    Fun fact: I was designing a piece of custom hardware the other day and pondered putting a USB Type C connector on it.
    I decided not to, since I would only be supporting USB 1.0 and put a USB Type B socket instead. Thinking about it again, I might change that to mini USB... (not to be confused with micro USB, because USB has way too many connectors)

    • @JavierAlbinarrate
      @JavierAlbinarrate 5 років тому +16

      definitely.. use a mini USB, it is the best way to piss off the user forcing to search through the old cables box...

    • @Yotanido
      @Yotanido 5 років тому +9

      @@JavierAlbinarrate Well, I'm going to be the only one using it, so... I don't really care.
      USB Type B seems bit too big and bulky to me, but micro USB is too flimsy. mini USB sits neatly in the middle.
      Seriously, though... USB has too many different connectors. It's a pain.

    • @Yotanido
      @Yotanido 5 років тому +6

      @windows_x_seven Yes, but it's not universal if one USB cable can't make all USB connections, is it... Even if you limit yourself to one version of the standard. USB 1.0 has USB Type A and USB Type B. Add mini and micro USB and it gets confusing. (And let's not forget USB OTG, which means you can't even say that one type is for USB Hosts and the other for USB Slaves...)

    • @Trainguyrom
      @Trainguyrom 5 років тому +3

      I've specifically seen MiniUSB used on products as a way to try to sidestep idiots plugging things in that shouldn't be plugged into eachother

    • @Trainguyrom
      @Trainguyrom 5 років тому

      To add to that, Type C connectors are apperently incredibly expensive to manufacture, so Mini or Micro USB should be noticably cheaper

  • @LangstoniusRex
    @LangstoniusRex 3 роки тому +2

    I really love how you addressed the pedantic feedback. Hats off

  • @Guldaar
    @Guldaar 5 років тому +84

    I'll be waiting here for part 3 when he discovers Phase-Shift Keying and QAM. The theoretical bandwidth limit of fibre is infinite, only limited by the accuracy and sensitivity of the receiver/transmitter.
    Honestly tho, great video(s) :)

    • @ooHotcooleRoo
      @ooHotcooleRoo 5 років тому +1

      Might as well dive into Wi-Fi QAM, should also be quite interesting.

    • @MostlyPennyCat
      @MostlyPennyCat 5 років тому +1

      Well, seeing as both WiFi and fibre both have QAM and PSK. Because they are....
      _....both the exact same thing_ 😎😎😎
      Then it doesn't really matter.

    • @allkorn93
      @allkorn93 5 років тому +1

      STOP IT GUISE I'M GOING TO HAVE A TECHSTENTIAL CRISIS

  • @HellaNorCal916
    @HellaNorCal916 5 років тому +96

    100% agree! Audiophiles are some of the worst snobs to talk/deal with. Doesn’t make a difference if it’s Headphones, Car audio or Home....😕

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 років тому +12

      Hey, bro, I'm an audiophile.

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 5 років тому +14

      Audiophiles are just poor losers who can't afford beats. Who cares how they sound, I want people to ENVY ME! /s

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 років тому +2

      @@rich1051414 Hey, Bose are the best, man.

    • @AnonymousUser77254
      @AnonymousUser77254 5 років тому +10

      Cavey Möth those are fighting words

    • @SkateSka
      @SkateSka 5 років тому +1

      @@rich1051414 To be fair, if you see a high-end set of headphones they look/are more expensive and would therefor inspire envy in even more people.

  • @Tech-Nobby
    @Tech-Nobby 5 років тому +49

    Apricot computers ( in the 80s ) used to have light based connections to the main unit - "light pipes" iirc
    but of course, they required batteries

    • @timmeier4136
      @timmeier4136 5 років тому +3

      Mark Barratt how old is your pic i saw it the first time somewhere in 1999

    • @ballsrgrossnugly
      @ballsrgrossnugly 5 років тому +2

      So does ya missus's boyfriend!
      Sorry, I saw the joke and went for it, I can't back that up in any way...

    • @cncshrops
      @cncshrops 5 років тому +4

      And my memory is that the keyboard could connect 'wirelessly' ie without the fibre. But that was unreliable and the rather short, stiff fibre had to be used. It wasn't a big success i think.

    • @Tech-Nobby
      @Tech-Nobby 5 років тому +2

      @@timmeier4136 I've been using it since I first ever got online, in the mid 90s, think I found it on a BBS somewhere

    • @edgeeffect
      @edgeeffect 5 років тому

      Oh god, yeah I remember those. LEDs were very power greedy in those days and one set of batteries would last about 9.67 seconds and then yer mouse pointer would start to jitter like a badly behaved photon in an optical cable.... what the hell, these mouse things will never catch on anyway you get a much more powerful interface by typing commands.

  • @JasonWatsonDr
    @JasonWatsonDr 3 роки тому +6

    It's awesome to have interesting detail delivered in such a witty way. You're doing a great job. (Must take a lot of time to produce these at such high quality).

  • @danielbull6709
    @danielbull6709 5 років тому +26

    Yes power over optical fibres exists in terms of academic research. It was something we were considering with powering microcontrollers and sensors without copper cables. You can retrieve the light power using a photocell. There are safety aspects however which is why it will not see use in consumer applications. If we're pumping 30-100W of power via a laser through the fibre, you simply don't want to be looking down the fibre.

    • @ianr.1225
      @ianr.1225 5 років тому +12

      "Do not look into laser with remaining eye."

    • @DBZHGWgamer
      @DBZHGWgamer 5 років тому

      For consumer you could include all that in the wire and have it converted to difital and electricity at the plug instead of having light stream out directly. Or just have a safety feature preventing cable use unless it's comnected at both ends.

    • @DoubleMonoLR
      @DoubleMonoLR 5 років тому +2

      Until you break the cable...

    • @ethanlamoureux5306
      @ethanlamoureux5306 5 років тому

      So don’t look down the cable.
      Okay, if we must pretend that everyone is an idiot... Make it necessary to have a continuous return data connection for the power laser to be enabled. If the fiber gets unplugged or broken, the data feedback fails and the power laser shuts down.

    • @someonesomewhere1240
      @someonesomewhere1240 5 років тому +1

      @@ethanlamoureux5306 Electrician here. We don't have to *pretend* that everyone is an idiot. I've lost count of the number of cords I've seen still in use with exposed copper showing.

  • @kruleworld
    @kruleworld 5 років тому +219

    Consumers don't want quality
    "I'd rather listen to that music on my phone" -Lenny, The Simpsons
    **plays 8 bit version of Beethoven on his phone**

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 років тому +11

      Unfortunately yes, one can have the greatest tech idea in the real world, but it all comes down to ease of usability, and most importantly COST. Sure, fiber is fast and wonderful, but special connectors are required along with relatively expensive light transceivers, oh and it lacks power delivery. Well, that's for that. lol

    • @hectorj.romanp.
      @hectorj.romanp. 4 роки тому +5

      Yes. That is why people stream AAA games and movies on their handheld devices, phones or tablets. After years of using a Home Theater setup I cannot withstand small screens and tiny speakers. Anything below HD and surround sound is crap for me.

    • @11D4V1D
      @11D4V1D 4 роки тому +5

      to be fair 8-bit Beethoven is a fuckin banger

    • @TheHadMatters
      @TheHadMatters 4 роки тому +6

      @Hector, When you call it crap, you've lost track of the purpose of whatever you are watching/listening to/playing, though.
      It's important to be able to enjoy the abstract ideal of what the movie/music/image/game is supposed to trigger in you; much like a story in a book, where the medium is more obviously secondary. If you are no longer capable of doing that, you aren't actually consuming the medium/art; you're just consuming your hardware - which is pretty reductive.
      I think it's great to enjoy detail. But don't let it make you lose touch for the original value of what you are consuming. It's just "better" - that doesn't mean the other way shouldn't be "good enough".
      Edit: Replied to the wrong guy, I think.

    • @LordRenegrade
      @LordRenegrade 4 роки тому +2

      @@BillAnt - Fiber isn't that expensive. Multi-mode LC fiber spans actually cost less than the equivalent in copper. The SFP transceivers for fiber are also like half the cost of a copper one - ex, a knock-off Cisco GLC-SX-MM is $9, and the equivalent copper one is $18. Heck, you can upgrade to a 10G fiber SFP+ for only $24 from that same vendor. Real Cisco gear follows the exact same pattern, just multiply the price by like 50 :P
      Source: my home network is actually fiber-based. My main switches are connected via a pair of gigabit multimode runs. The fiber is actually a bit easier to run as it's quite thin and light. The bulk of my order for cabling was the small copper runs that go from switch to end device...

  • @wrong2h8
    @wrong2h8 4 роки тому +209

    I laughed too hard at this...
    "Having one computer screech at another one and you're connected to the internet."
    I died...

    • @Bacteriophagebs
      @Bacteriophagebs 3 роки тому +22

      Then we started listening to the screeches ourselves and called it "dubstep."

    • @msherretz
      @msherretz 2 роки тому +8

      Wifi is also literally multiple computers screeching at each other in RF, and waiting for any two of them to understand what they're saying.

    • @scythal
      @scythal 2 роки тому +7

      @@msherretz So you're saying Wifi is just the very same screeching but inaudible to us humans?

    • @msherretz
      @msherretz 2 роки тому +3

      @@scythal exactly!

    • @scythal
      @scythal 2 роки тому +1

      @@msherretz And I believe fiber-optic internet is the same screeching but in the form of light (also a certain wavelength) too!

  • @skyclaw
    @skyclaw 3 роки тому +3

    There’s also the physical portion of the MIDI standard. Since a MIDI connection is asymmetric, you can just put an opto-isolator at one end (iirc the receiving end) and use copper for the actual connection. Galvanic isolation without the need for expensive optical fibre.

  • @hullinstruments
    @hullinstruments 5 років тому +87

    Dude, seeing that pin out around the 13 minute mark, makes me ask the age old question… Why don’t you get into more technical stuff? I’ve got a literal pile of oscilloscopes and test gear that I’ll give you… You’re just a natural, and I know behind the scenes you must do a lot of troubleshooting, soldering, and such.
    if you’re anywhere near the south, I’ll be glad to meet you halfway with a truckload of test gear. Love your videos and presentation style and Its wayyyyy past time for a new Eevblog style channel.

    • @chrismorse3862
      @chrismorse3862 4 роки тому

      I'm in the south and could use some test gear!

    • @SHAD0WZOMBIE
      @SHAD0WZOMBIE 4 роки тому

      Haha I'm in the south and WILL BUY A SCOPE dude hmu

  • @serebit
    @serebit 4 роки тому +30

    UniLink actually exists, in a way! The link cable for the Oculus Quest, which is 15 feet of USB-C to USB-C, uses fiber for data streaming and copper for power delivery. Signal integrity for USB-3 is really difficult to maintain over 15 feet, apparently, so they used fiber instead, and it works rather well! Quite expensive, though.

  • @becauseimafan
    @becauseimafan 4 роки тому +39

    9:05 "what we in the business call 'itty bitty'" 😂 I love this, got sent here by Steve Mould, and you got my subscription to your channel! The education and entertainment are excellent, looking forward to bingeing your videos 👍

  • @ItsIntelligentDesign
    @ItsIntelligentDesign 3 роки тому +3

    6:40 I was half expecting him to put Multi-modal Reflection Sorting on that list as a joke

  • @orlandotorres4078
    @orlandotorres4078 4 роки тому +11

    I am very late to the party but maybe it helps: Optical Amplifiers are in general no different than lasers, where you essentially have a cavity (a specially designed fixture which allows light to be trapped) an active medium (think of it as special materials that lend their energy to light to be multiplied ) and light (typically a laser or a very spectrally narrow (i.e. "single wavelength") source of light).
    The optical amplifier essentially is a box that allows copies of photons (being special particled they can be "cloned" and be indistinguishable from each other a.k.a. bosons). Thus, an optical amplifier is essentially a laser structure in the path that copies incoming photons and multiplies them.

  • @dandeeteeyem2170
    @dandeeteeyem2170 4 роки тому +25

    PoE comment at the end 🤣 awesome video as usual. I've been working with fibre for 20 years and your explanation of single vs multi mode, showing the "smearing" of the optical signal, was a better way to illustrate the phenomenon than I've ever seen. Great job ❤️

  • @bismuthcrystal9658
    @bismuthcrystal9658 5 років тому +183

    *You fool!* The "speed of light" is not, in fact constant! Light travels through different mediums at different speeds! When one is referring to the "speed of light" generally one is likely referring to - or *should* be referring to - the "speed of light in a vacuum", or, perhaps more accurately, "the maximum speed of information!"
    P.S. You're not a fool. But this is fun.

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 5 років тому +9

      The plural of medium is media.
      The max speed of info is only in your head - it doesn't exist in real life. #bandwidth

    • @differentlyabledmuslimjewi4475
      @differentlyabledmuslimjewi4475 5 років тому +6

      but even in a vacuum, the gravitational force of celestial bodies can warp that light. In fact, due to this, you can see behind a black hole or white dwarf star due to the density(if you could witness them in person which until recently we never had).
      So truly nothing is perfect. But in a person's house, light data transmission seems like it could have some pretty spiffy uses.

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 5 років тому +3

      @@differentlyabledmuslimjewi4475 Well it certainly stops me from bumping into things.

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 5 років тому +4

      @@LucasFerreira-gx9yh Nope, you'll have to come up with a better explanation than that. If what you say was true, we wouldn't have clear vision and optics wouldn't work. Optics work on the basis that light travels in a straight line, not bouncing around off everything !

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 років тому +6

      @Lucas Ferreira < Finally someone who actually gets it. :)
      While most light photons travel in a straight line inside fiber, some will bounce off the edges of the fiber creating a "blur" effect, by affecting the output on the other side (basically interfering with the next bit being sent), thus imposing a practical data transfer speed limit in a given fiber length. In order to minimize the blur effect, they use super thin single mode fiber for very longs runs (thousand Km +).

  • @llmwall7
    @llmwall7 10 місяців тому

    I like your sense of humor. Plus there's an absolutely incredible amount of information in these videos. Thanks for your effort. I’d probably watch you talk about almost anything.

  • @caniscerulean
    @caniscerulean 5 років тому +54

    Industry: We have 27 different incompatible standards...
    Engineer: I just invented a cable that can replace all of the others!
    Industry: *sigh We have 28 different incompatible standards...

    • @PainterVierax
      @PainterVierax 5 років тому +10

      it's an overused XKCD joke.

    • @fuser662
      @fuser662 5 років тому +10

      @@PainterVierax For anyone who wants to know what XKCD is and the joke you are referring to, xkcd.com/927/

    • @caniscerulean
      @caniscerulean 5 років тому +6

      @@PainterVierax OH NO, SOMEONE REPEATED A JOKE ON THE INTERNET!!!!!!1!11!!
      Im not the first to say it, I doubt XKCD was the first one to come up with it, either. This crap has been going on for as long as industries realized that standardization would make it easier to make things work, and they have been fighting over which standard is the best since then. Even languages have had the same issue since humans started trading with neighbors.
      "If everyone on earth spoke one language, it would be so much easier to communicate and carry out trade or diplomacy" but which language should we all learn?
      TLDR: congrats on being an annoying killjoy who knows, and is annoyed by, the origin of every joke on the internet, and must share your miserable view with the world.

    • @gorkskoal9315
      @gorkskoal9315 5 років тому +3

      30 plus: StarLink: (Elon musk) uses Spread Frequency and phase shfting stunts to (on prototyped cell tests) get about 900 megs of data asyncerously...problem oh deer god the lag... oh god...and it's just kind of impractical for anyone to useStarNET: Yet another comunications protocal (minus the hardware for now) that tries to use mesh+pearing stunts for so as any doohicky can connect to another doohiky.Qbit connections: some designers that are also literal partical physics genius have decided screw cables and are developing (or have been for the last 6 months that I know of) to somehow make it pratical AnyTimeNow for regular doodads to (litterally) talk to another device. something about picking up one single a atom of what ever a phone or mouse-ses nouse made at that moment and making a entangled donnection somehow.
      And none of them are compatible.

    • @Ice_Karma
      @Ice_Karma 5 років тому +1

      @@PainterVierax As a software engineer who's worked in a variety of fields... it's used so frequently because it's _so goddamn true!_

  • @Amazementss
    @Amazementss 5 років тому +77

    But when you say "USB 3.2" do you mean Gen 1x1, 1x2, 2x1, or 2x2?
    (USB4 will fix it, we promise)

    • @BenMelluish
      @BenMelluish 5 років тому +16

      Seriously, the situation with USB naming really pisses me off. Loads of smart blokes done all the hard work of getting the standards agreed upon and working and then buggered up the easy bit.

    • @grizzly6699
      @grizzly6699 5 років тому +3

      Simple. USB3 = 5Gbps - USB3.1 = 10Gbps - USB3.2 = 20Gbps... Why can't things be simple and uncomplicated? Because life would be boring.

    • @Puremindgames
      @Puremindgames 5 років тому

      @@grizzly6699 Or you know USB3 = 5Gbps - USB4 = 10Gbps - USB5 = 20Gbps

    • @dycedargselderbrother5353
      @dycedargselderbrother5353 5 років тому +1

      @S A If you hate fractions, base 60 is for you.

    • @arahman56
      @arahman56 5 років тому

      @javier n USB4 is Thunderbolt3...mostly. The big difference being no licensing fee.

  • @MrSmitheroons
    @MrSmitheroons 5 років тому +106

    I'm sorry the angry IT people yelled at you. If someone says people can't call it Ethernet cabling and RJ45 jacks then they are being a jerk. I wonder if those folks refer to an IEEE standard specification to determine how to correctly use the bathroom, because I think they may have a cable up their -

    • @BigDaddyWes
      @BigDaddyWes 5 років тому +16

      The best part was when dude bro said RJ45 isn't the name of the connector. 8P2C is the pin configuration, not the connector.

    • @tonyman1106
      @tonyman1106 5 років тому +6

      @@SF-tb4kb when your dealing with phone you have make sure you state if it cat 3 or cat 5 and not Ethernet

    • @nthn-
      @nthn- 5 років тому +6

      @@BigDaddyWes I might be wrong, but isn't it 8p8c (or sometimes 8p4c) not 8p2c in modern rj45 ethernet?

    • @BigDaddyWes
      @BigDaddyWes 5 років тому

      @@nthn- I'm not sure which is which tbh.

    • @SurmaSampo
      @SurmaSampo 5 років тому +8

      @@nthn- The P stands for the pins and the C stands for how many of the pins are connected to a wire. If you use an RJ45 meant for ethernet to connect a magnetic security door sensor and alarm then it will only need 6 wires but you can still use the 8P RJ45 connector giving you 8p6c. The same can be done for some land line phones that use RJ45 instead of RJ15 giving you 8p4c or even 8p2c.
      Why do this? For 2 pin phones you can run an 8p8c trunk to the phone switch or multiplexer from a splitter so you can have 4 phones in an office with short cables run to a splitter and use the better shielded Cat5 to run the long distance to the VPABX without more expensive IP phones or commanders etc. No one does this these days because the IP based stuff is much more feature rich and easier to manage. Plus the cable layout becomes easier since it is all bundled CAT and you can reassign at the patch panel

  • @jettguymer2125
    @jettguymer2125 Рік тому +1

    Love the sarcasm in your earlier videos. You are correctly capturing how the haters on forums sound in my head. Stop changing for the haters.

  • @dave1812
    @dave1812 5 років тому +19

    Man, I just Love your Videos! Your Presentation and Humour are just excellent!

  • @Kleavers
    @Kleavers 4 роки тому +5

    Been using fiber optics to connect TV to my PC and to an office. Works like a charm, super thin and flexible cables, no hassle. It's somewhat pricey, but active copper wires are also expensive and very thick.

  • @951258tike22
    @951258tike22 5 років тому +50

    when you said "what we in the business call 'itty bitty'" i spit my drink. i gotta learn to go into technology connections videos like i'm watching a comedy lmao

  • @portman8909
    @portman8909 Рік тому +3

    With games being 200 gb or more in download size it makes sense fibre is in high demand. Over copper that could take a day to download.