Your camera perspective always makes it seem like you've accidentally entered into the children's race, everyone seems so small ahead of you. Racing through London is one of my life goals. I hope to do the winter 10k next February, but we'll see.
First off, I've really enjoyed following and interacting on this training series, your video skills continue to grow. A couple of other thoughts, Kofuzi said in his London runners weekend video he was having trouble working out how far the Forest of Dean was from London but it looked far. Now you can quantify it, if I want to make a race in London I have to get up at 3 am 😂. Hats off for that early start! On a more serious note, that was a decent run, if it was 24oC in Gloucester, add on at least 2oC for central London and I reckon each switchback costs 3-4 secs, so 33.30 give or take in current shape with a better course. Apreciate unless the organisers are planning a loop for the Olympics or Worlds road racing , you work with what the City of Westminster gives you.
Well done Andy! Such a great series watching you build to this race. That looks a tough course and in the heat must've been killer, great job getting sub 34. Really good to see your vibe so positive 😊 Bring on the next!
Great video Andy and fantastic running. Nice to re-live the route again through your video, without the discomfort of racing it! That extra 100m at the end - same as last year. Make's the final straight feel like it's never going to end. Lovely chatting to you before the race.
It was clearly a rough day, yet you seemed to be moving through the field quite well as others started to suffer. Some days you race the clock, some days you simply race the people around you. You should be in a good spot to transition to marathon training. Well done!
Awesome race! It’s so hot here on the US East coast they don’t bother with 10Ks in the summer, not near me anyway. It will be 30 Celsius by 10am today.
Was so nice to chat Andy. I would definitely agree that it’s a course worth running, a great experience for my first time in London but maybe not a PB course.
Great video Andy , I’m going to have to do this one year. Coming 38th is amazing, in the video you said out of 1300, rather than 13 THOUSAND, which is quite a bit different. 👍
Nicely done Andy - it was definitely warmer than 16 degrees, nearer 20 for sure. I briefly saw you near Buckingham Palace before the start. Well done on another great video and debrief too.
Great video and great race Andy, that time is pretty special. On a side not, Becky Briggs is from my neck of the woods and used to pass me in my early days of running in 2018/2019, she has come a long way and is a local heroine tot he running community!
Well done from the drummers in green and white at around 5 minutes in your vid, I think I even waved at you (you being taller than most sticks out in my memory), but a waved a lot that day 🤣 you look like you’re moving slowly but by god you really motoring it. We love theses gigs and are always proud of the peeps on them. Thanks for sharing, keep on jogging on, yeah I’ve not yet mastered euphemisms 🤪 Great vid! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thanks! Well, you’ve gained a subscriber. Looking forward to seeing your journey towards Abingdon, watched your Battersea vid too, I personally haven’t been a runner since I was 10 years old where I was impressively good over cross country 5k, terrible on the track tho’. I’m learning a lot about control of the body (breathing, pace etc) from your vids, which to be honest is a life practice. It’s a marathon, not a sprint 🤣. Before my post becomes a except worthy of the length of that from War & Peace, keep it up regardless of what anyone says, You’re doing great! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Great run Andy - great seeiing you out there. This was my first ever 10k race and managed to do it in 38:48. I'm 33 and have been running for 5 months on average of about 50km a week. Obviously everyone's different, but realistically do you think I could get this time down to about 35/36mins within a year with increased mileage and maybe a bit more speedwork?
Thanks buddy! Absolutely, more than realistic... if you just ran a 38 high and you can increase your mileage... in a year, with the right plan, 35/36 is definitely achievable
Well done, mate. Great run. Shame I couldn't stick with you. But for us both, it's something to work on. Keep up the good work, and see you around soon
i enjoyed the race. already booked for next year. GPS. well i manually lapped on the km boards and shortest km 0.54 miles and longest km 0.68. so i was ignoring watch for the most part and just looking at times for each manual lap.
Great video and the whole training block. Well done, Andy. I can recommend Stryd foot pods (even the second-gen) for pace and distance tracking, especially in the city. So good for racing as you get instant and super accurate pace.
Good job Andy! Although I ran it significantly slower than yourself in 41:49, I felt identical to you throughout it seems and also began to suffer at the same moment you did between Kms 6 and 7 on the embankment. There are other big London 10ks that are possibly better PB-ers: the Hoka/Cancer Research Winter run in Feb or the Vitality 10k in September. Both a bit flatter overall iirc.
Switch backs are the devil😂 I try to run them as wide as possible, so more like a bend rather than nearly stopping and starting but they are pants either way. Great series and amazing time too. I'd love to be within 4mins of that any day.
That look3d like a superb course for sightseeing. Lots of familiar landmarks. Also a couple of familiar runners on the Vlog. It looked like Becky Briggs in front of you near the start and the legendary Dave Norman in the yellow Altrincham vest at one point. The race experience looked a lot less high arousal than the marathon and has me wanting to do this next year. Perhaps.
I know Dave is a big fan of Andy Forest of Dean Runner. He mentioned he’d like to do the Newent 9 at some point if you could point him in the right direction to enter it?
@@garypriestley7942 ah that’s awesome, appreciate that! So the newent 9 often opens up entries around September / October time…. It’s hosted by Newent Runners…. No date has been set though for it, usually the 3rd weekend in November though
@@TheFODRunner cheers Andy, I’ll let him know as he’s my housemate. I’ve shown him the Newent 9 before & he was intrigued. He said you flew past him on Saturday 💪🏻
I usually stay with Family but they werent available this weekend... and in all honesty, it was quite nice to stay in my own bed! But yes I would consider it in the future for sure
No Saucony at the Saucony 10k o.O how could you :P. Great running. Why do they put so many 180° turns on that course? I don't think it's a good course that way.
conhratulations Andy, another strong run.....and another less than perfect logistic with a waste of some adrenaline, you could have used in the race, not to mention the subpar breakfast.... i am sure, not oversleeping, having a relaxed breakfast and a easy drive to the bus, you would have run under 33:30.....oh not to forget that you did not study the course profile ahead of time........the small things get us over the top
Yeah the small things add up Thomas! I am happy to keep working over the summer, enjoy the weather and race fast when the cooler temps come later in the year!
@@TheFODRunner yes, looking back the last 5 years, you are a typical bad weather runner. You thrive in the cold, the wet and the dark. That is when you have the most consistent training and as far as i know your best races. The warmer the weather, the harder it gets, i guess this has also to do with your height and weight and the amonut of cooling the larger surface needs, compeared to runners with a small frame
Switchbacks/u-turns drive GPS crazy, as it interpolates your position every few seconds, so it will will give you an extra few meters on each switchback (in a sams way that it is generally generous measuring distances at the track)
Good run, Andy - but not a great one? (This is based on your own comments!) Still think that your training lacks real speed and intensity. You need more work at much faster than 10K pace - ie 5K and even 3K &1500 pace. Sessions such as 12x300 45 seconds recovery (jog round the bend) Or 16-24x200 with 200 jog recovery. Do this once a week in place of one of your longer slower sessions. Frank Shorter did 3 track sessions aweek prior to winning marathon gold in 1972 - none of them more than 5K in total, eg 12x400 or 6x800. Before the marathon he did 4x800 in just over 2 minutes. He recognised the need to have speed in the legs so race pace felt slow, he could handle any sudden increase in pace and getting into slight oxygen debt was going to be no problem because his sessions involved this.
Thanks Mark... yes indeed my words... I am pretty happy with it considering the 6 switch backs and how strong i felt... but obviously not quite where I want to be. I took your comments of the speed work on board last time and yes, its something I will consider for future... its something I did with Will actually and thats when I ran my 33:00... so although I prefer the double threshold model and prefer the longer work... I do also have to consider that maybe I need to do something that I dont "prefer"... I will be flipping into marathon mode now for Abingdon but after Abingdon, I will be going back to shorter work and will aim for redemption over the winter.... appreciate the comment
I think so... couldnt believe there was 6! The route was only released in the email about 2 weeks ago so I wasnt sure what it was going to be until then
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My first proper running event with my longest training run being 4k, ran the 10k in 1 hour 12 min
AMAZING!! Well done, thats awesome!
Your camera perspective always makes it seem like you've accidentally entered into the children's race, everyone seems so small ahead of you.
Racing through London is one of my life goals. I hope to do the winter 10k next February, but we'll see.
Haha! Its definitely worth it
Great running, and nice touch to gee up the guy suffering at the end. Classy Andy!
Thanks!
First off, I've really enjoyed following and interacting on this training series, your video skills continue to grow. A couple of other thoughts, Kofuzi said in his London runners weekend video he was having trouble working out how far the Forest of Dean was from London but it looked far. Now you can quantify it, if I want to make a race in London I have to get up at 3 am 😂. Hats off for that early start! On a more serious note, that was a decent run, if it was 24oC in Gloucester, add on at least 2oC for central London and I reckon each switchback costs 3-4 secs, so 33.30 give or take in current shape with a better course. Apreciate unless the organisers are planning a loop for the Olympics or Worlds road racing , you work with what the City of Westminster gives you.
Thanks mate, yeah its quite a trek from over this side of the country! Train is much quicker but so much more expensive!
Well done Andy! Such a great series watching you build to this race. That looks a tough course and in the heat must've been killer, great job getting sub 34. Really good to see your vibe so positive 😊 Bring on the next!
Thanks! Appreciate you following along with the series!
Great video Andy and fantastic running. Nice to re-live the route again through your video, without the discomfort of racing it! That extra 100m at the end - same as last year. Make's the final straight feel like it's never going to end. Lovely chatting to you before the race.
Thanks buddy, yes that final stretch felt like it went on forever haha!
Just like your running… you turn these videos around so quickly. What an effort 👏🏼👏🏼
you probabaly did run about a 33:30 bcos of all the switch backs you mentioned. Slowing down and having to speed back up really hurts. GREAT RUN!!!
Thanks!
Love this live run share and summary!! Love FOD videos!
Thanks!
It was clearly a rough day, yet you seemed to be moving through the field quite well as others started to suffer. Some days you race the clock, some days you simply race the people around you. You should be in a good spot to transition to marathon training. Well done!
Thanks mate, it'll happen soon, just need to be patient!
Awesome race! It’s so hot here on the US East coast they don’t bother with 10Ks in the summer, not near me anyway. It will be 30 Celsius by 10am today.
Thanks! Gosh, I cant even comprehend that sort of heat, I dont blame you!
Was so nice to chat Andy. I would definitely agree that it’s a course worth running, a great experience for my first time in London but maybe not a PB course.
You are a hero, great to meet you, wonderful to spend time with you after the race. Enjoy France and safe travels back home!!
Good to have a chat with you on the day! Great race indeed, but not a PB one for sure! But will come back next year.
Great to chat! Might see you again next year, I enjoyed it despite it not being the fastest course
Win for the race video, win for the chocolate spread sandwich breakfast!
As always 5* recap at the end
Thanks! Chocolate spread sandwiches have been added to the "safe breakfast" list haha
FairPlay Andy inspiring stuff that’s a cracking time enjoy a short rest 👍
Thank you 🙏
Was one second outside my PB yesterday.
Great effort Andy!
Excellent run on a tough looking course!
Cheers!
Well done mate good to see you!
And you buddy, hope you had a good race out there!
Great video Andy , I’m going to have to do this one year. Coming 38th is amazing, in the video you said out of 1300, rather than 13 THOUSAND, which is quite a bit different. 👍
Oh did I say that? what a plonker haha! Thanks mate, it was definitely good fun!
Congrats Andy, you worked hard through all the ups and downs and killed it
Thank you!
course looks fantastic!
great racing Andy!
Well done Andy
Thanks!
Great running Andy in tough conditions. It looked like you a blast out there! 😃
Thanks mate, it was good fun for sure!
Nicely done Andy - it was definitely warmer than 16 degrees, nearer 20 for sure. I briefly saw you near Buckingham Palace before the start. Well done on another great video and debrief too.
Yeah it definitely felt like that! Hope you had a great race too!
Great video and great race Andy, that time is pretty special. On a side not, Becky Briggs is from my neck of the woods and used to pass me in my early days of running in 2018/2019, she has come a long way and is a local heroine tot he running community!
Ah amazing, shes definitely turned into a seriously talented runner! She used to have a youtube channel years ago, I used to follow it!
Great work Andy, onwards and upwards!!!
Cheers buddy!
Well done from the drummers in green and white at around 5 minutes in your vid, I think I even waved at you (you being taller than most sticks out in my memory), but a waved a lot that day 🤣 you look like you’re moving slowly but by god you really motoring it. We love theses gigs and are always proud of the peeps on them. Thanks for sharing, keep on jogging on, yeah I’ve not yet mastered euphemisms 🤪 Great vid! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Also 20 seconds out with no brekkie, you did bloody brilliantly!
Amazing!! Thanks so much for being there, you guys helped contribute to creating an insane atmosphere, one I won’t forget!
Thanks! Well, you’ve gained a subscriber. Looking forward to seeing your journey towards Abingdon, watched your Battersea vid too, I personally haven’t been a runner since I was 10 years old where I was impressively good over cross country 5k, terrible on the track tho’. I’m learning a lot about control of the body (breathing, pace etc) from your vids, which to be honest is a life practice. It’s a marathon, not a sprint 🤣. Before my post becomes a except worthy of the length of that from War & Peace, keep it up regardless of what anyone says, You’re doing great! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@zombiefreed thank you, really appreciate it! Best of luck to you too!
Great run Andy - great seeiing you out there. This was my first ever 10k race and managed to do it in 38:48. I'm 33 and have been running for 5 months on average of about 50km a week. Obviously everyone's different, but realistically do you think I could get this time down to about 35/36mins within a year with increased mileage and maybe a bit more speedwork?
Thanks buddy! Absolutely, more than realistic... if you just ran a 38 high and you can increase your mileage... in a year, with the right plan, 35/36 is definitely achievable
Well done, mate. Great run. Shame I couldn't stick with you. But for us both, it's something to work on. Keep up the good work, and see you around soon
Well done buddy, great to see you again, enjoy Vegas you lucky bugger!
i enjoyed the race. already booked for next year.
GPS. well i manually lapped on the km boards and shortest km 0.54 miles and longest km 0.68. so i was ignoring watch for the most part and just looking at times for each manual lap.
Yeah I think I will make sure I do that next time I am in London!
Great video and the whole training block. Well done, Andy. I can recommend Stryd foot pods (even the second-gen) for pace and distance tracking, especially in the city. So good for racing as you get instant and super accurate pace.
Thanks buddy, yeah they would be much more accurate than GPS around the city for sure!
Amazing pace omg!!!!!
Thanks buddy
Congratulations, Andy. Keep it up!!!!. Here is my Like. Happy monday.
Great running, especially in the heat!
Thanks buddy
That's flippin' fast!
Well done! Really enjoyed this block and race.
Thanks Debra!
Great video Andy … great footage … great race even if you did not get your PB … it’s so fast when you are running lol 😱👏👏👏💪😉🇫🇷
Thanks buddy!
Good job Andy! Although I ran it significantly slower than yourself in 41:49, I felt identical to you throughout it seems and also began to suffer at the same moment you did between Kms 6 and 7 on the embankment. There are other big London 10ks that are possibly better PB-ers: the Hoka/Cancer Research Winter run in Feb or the Vitality 10k in September. Both a bit flatter overall iirc.
Thanks buddy, well done out there, brilliant run! Yes I have heard the winter 10k is one to have a look at, so I will for next year!
Nice work Andy
Well done, great race
Thanks
Switch backs are the devil😂 I try to run them as wide as possible, so more like a bend rather than nearly stopping and starting but they are pants either way. Great series and amazing time too. I'd love to be within 4mins of that any day.
They are... completely kills any momentum!
That look3d like a superb course for sightseeing. Lots of familiar landmarks. Also a couple of familiar runners on the Vlog. It looked like Becky Briggs in front of you near the start and the legendary Dave Norman in the yellow Altrincham vest at one point. The race experience looked a lot less high arousal than the marathon and has me wanting to do this next year. Perhaps.
It was definitely good fun, a good tourist type of event... not the fastest but it definitely takes in all the sights!
I know Dave is a big fan of Andy Forest of Dean Runner. He mentioned he’d like to do the Newent 9 at some point if you could point him in the right direction to enter it?
@@garypriestley7942 ah that’s awesome, appreciate that! So the newent 9 often opens up entries around September / October time…. It’s hosted by Newent Runners…. No date has been set though for it, usually the 3rd weekend in November though
@@TheFODRunner cheers Andy, I’ll let him know as he’s my housemate. I’ve shown him the Newent 9 before & he was intrigued. He said you flew past him on Saturday 💪🏻
@@garypriestley7942 I just tracked back through the video and I’ve found him! He was in the pack with Becky Briggs…. Pass on my regards 👍
Congrats, considering the course and conditions. not an easy one.
Thanks
Would you consider staying at a hotel in London next time? You can’t beat being able to walk a short distance to the start of a morning race.
I usually stay with Family but they werent available this weekend... and in all honesty, it was quite nice to stay in my own bed! But yes I would consider it in the future for sure
Fabulous 🎉
No Saucony at the Saucony 10k o.O how could you :P. Great running. Why do they put so many 180° turns on that course? I don't think it's a good course that way.
I know, I really wanted to use the elites but they have definitely lost their magic now, so will be just a training shoe I think!
Your watch looks like an older model. Can that be why the GPS readings are off?
Yeah it is, its not multiband GPS... so that wont help!
conhratulations Andy, another strong run.....and another less than perfect logistic with a waste of some adrenaline, you could have used in the race, not to mention the subpar breakfast.... i am sure, not oversleeping, having a relaxed breakfast and a easy drive to the bus, you would have run under 33:30.....oh not to forget that you did not study the course profile ahead of time........the small things get us over the top
Yeah the small things add up Thomas! I am happy to keep working over the summer, enjoy the weather and race fast when the cooler temps come later in the year!
@@TheFODRunner yes, looking back the last 5 years, you are a typical bad weather runner. You thrive in the cold, the wet and the dark. That is when you have the most consistent training and as far as i know your best races. The warmer the weather, the harder it gets, i guess this has also to do with your height and weight and the amonut of cooling the larger surface needs, compeared to runners with a small frame
My Garmin Forerunner 955 measured it as 6.3 miles. The guy i was running with got 10.3km
Switchbacks/u-turns drive GPS crazy, as it interpolates your position every few seconds, so it will will give you an extra few meters on each switchback (in a sams way that it is generally generous measuring distances at the track)
Mate, great running. Next time you feel a bit down about your time, think about this, you're running faster than most cars in C.London.
Haha didnt think of it that way! Thanks
I did this race last year and it was 10.15km. The race didn't count on my Run Britain ranking either so maybe it's not an official course 🤔
Ah OK, that could well be the reason then!
Good run, Andy - but not a great one? (This is based on your own comments!)
Still think that your training lacks real speed and intensity. You need more work at much faster than 10K pace - ie 5K and even 3K &1500 pace. Sessions such as 12x300 45 seconds recovery (jog round the bend) Or 16-24x200 with 200 jog recovery. Do this once a week in place of one of your longer slower sessions.
Frank Shorter did 3 track sessions aweek prior to winning marathon gold in 1972 - none of them more than 5K in total, eg 12x400 or 6x800. Before the marathon he did 4x800 in just over 2 minutes. He recognised the need to have speed in the legs so race pace felt slow, he could handle any sudden increase in pace and getting into slight oxygen debt was going to be no problem because his sessions involved this.
Thanks Mark... yes indeed my words... I am pretty happy with it considering the 6 switch backs and how strong i felt... but obviously not quite where I want to be. I took your comments of the speed work on board last time and yes, its something I will consider for future... its something I did with Will actually and thats when I ran my 33:00... so although I prefer the double threshold model and prefer the longer work... I do also have to consider that maybe I need to do something that I dont "prefer"... I will be flipping into marathon mode now for Abingdon but after Abingdon, I will be going back to shorter work and will aim for redemption over the winter.... appreciate the comment
Allthose u-turns must have a hefty time cost.
I think so... couldnt believe there was 6! The route was only released in the email about 2 weeks ago so I wasnt sure what it was going to be until then
Luckily 10 km doesn't require so much fueling. A half or full marathon would have been worse with that "alarm".
Yes very lucky!
Was one second outside my PB yesterday.
Great effort Andy!
Amazing, well done out there!