@@chahwang5150 I used a combo of Thorns talent and it's upgrade that makes them bleed when taking thorns damage + the aspect that gives to stun when bleeding. I just stand there taking damage and watching them get stunned.
I played a Rogue for my first build and I died so much but it wasn't till I got a few more skills and Legendaries to push my dmg and sustain before I felt awesome, around level 18ish. Whereas I never felt powerful on the Barb. However Sorc was uber strong from the get go.....so something tells me a lot will change at or towards the endgame. I still will never start a Barb as a season start because of how weak he felt early.
I used upheaval while leveling but whirlwind was the clear winner once I got enough points to support it. At then end of the beta I was killing bosses in under 10 seconds. Whirlwind has some clearly busted legendary affixes such as granting 80% crit chance. Once you have enough talent points to get the shouts and your ultimate, you barely need a basic skill any more as the bulk of your fury from shouts and whirlwind itself. As others have stated, there is also a thorns build. I didn't try this one but it looks pretty strong as well.
A class that is forced into melee should have more tools to withstand melee from bosses in my opinion. Even if I do less damage, I want to be able to stay on the boss and just dodge the big attacks. Seeing a barbarian having to run away kiting the boss while waiting for CDs to come back looks and feels (hit 25 on barb and wanted to uninstall) terrible. Hopefully with more points, gear, and levels the barb really comes online.
@@Ubeer85 True that's helpful but overall the bard still feels lacking at this level and leveling. Did you watch the boss fight? Even with Aspect of the protector he still had to run around because you die if you don't. A barbarian should be face to face smashing the boss more than kiting imo. Like I said though, hard to really tell what endgame will feel like when I'm capped at 25.
Cooldown timers and rage generation are the biggest issue. These are somewhat tied together. The problem is just the uptime on shouts. If I wasn't so reliant on CD's, it would feel much better.
Hi you must be new to every Diablo game ever. Let me help you. Barb has always gotten the shit end of the stick through the level process. However in the end game they come online pretty good. That's the trade off Barb has always seen. Nothing new here.
Barb was just very undertuned in this beta, I fully expect it will be stronger on launch. It could also be one of those classes that starts off weaker, but gets most stronger once the builds come together.
I’ve been playing upheaval as well I think it feels pretty good, I just with it hit on top of your character a little better sometimes I miss it because enemies get too close. I don’t have the leap ring but I have a unique mace that gave says you deal fire damage to nearby enemies while enraged
hammer of the ancients with the weapon chain ultimate was op as shit when i played it. it was a weird build though, felt slow at start during fury generation, but once its going it was doing like 3k-7k crits and it applied vuln pretty easily via the weapon chain ability. the legend effect that gives 180% dmg based off of fury generated past maximum and when that was full, you do the chain for vuln effect then hammer of ancients and if you crit it did absolutely insane dmg lol
Osterberg. I didn’t get any legendaries the entire weekend lol. I made it to lvl 22 without one dropping but my buddy who I was playing with most of the time had 10+ drop… very strange
My slam generator one shot/two shot most things, upheaval does the rest. Dongeon boss takes around 15s to kill with call of the ancients. Butcher was a clean kill. Need the 50% increase legend affix attack speed on generator skill though
This barb build is a little slower and kind of clunky. Instead of focusing on fury generation, focus on making enemies vulnerable while you proc berserker. No clue how the iron skin healing truly helps, but getting the legendary item that builds fortitude when attacking with full fury seems to be far better imo. Most of my damage will come from Frenzy, no joke. If you get berserker up while the target is vulnerable(proc in many ways) have frenzy stacked up and the legendary that makes your basic skills attack 30% faster and you can face tank this boss and down him in a minute or two on hard. I also pick up multiple shouts and have the legendary that reduces the cooldowns of shouts when there are 5 or more enemies around. The more shouts you have, the more CDR. Also try to stack weapons with "+20% basic skill damage" or "+7% damage to closer enemies" and you can get frenzy to hit for 150 per sword, so 300 every click with stacked attack speed it's insane. Not as strong as Sorc but feels better than rogue at that point.
Also don't even bother with ultimates, the cooldowns are so long and barely worth the ability slot. Better to have more defense to face tank everything and building around vulnerable procs, berserker procs, attack speed, fortitude and rely on maxed out frenzy as main source for single target dmg, upheavel for AoE. Hell even death shot or whatever it's called is nice for clearing trash with no fury, it resets the CD if it's used on a killing blow. The move speed buff is useless but the unstoppable perk is nice maybe in HC mode, not normal.
The internet is exploding with ''BEST BUILD OPTIONS'' from eveyone. I like your content but plz dont join the silly bandwagon. The barb really need the aspect of the protector to shine. That made a huge difference for me and im only having groundstomp as defensive skill. I think the barb will catch up to the other classes in power at lategame. Having 4 weapons with legendary powers is probably gonna be really potent the more lv and better gear you get
Thorns/Bleed build is far stronger + maelstrom of steel with the cooldown reduction perk is OP as fuck. One shots anything. Also none of this matters because its a level 25 capped beta where you cant access most of the build enabling content LMAO
i honestly dont understand how people are saying the barb is the worst class in the beta. i found it to be the best one and thats coming from someone who plays sorc only.
I've been watching videos of barb gameplay and most I see are pretty bad. Everyone is running around kiting and even running away. If not running away, they keep chasing enemies who kite which looks pathetic. Its is unlike what the lore of barbarian suggests. I was in the impression that barbs can tank hits. Are people just missing out on some skills or there is no to little ways to be a tanky barb? I remember in D3 melee characters have an inherent % damage received reduction. Is this not present in d4? Every gameplay I've seen, the barb feels slow and lumbering. No mobility skills?
I think Barbarians are just undertuned right now, there are still some very strong builds IF you get all the correct piece. I think they just need to balance out the weaker parts of the class.
this is not even close to be the best barb build. i was running ww and killed bosses on vet difficulty in less than 10 sec. call to the ancients was insanely helpful.
Nah, it's far from being the best one. I really at first wanted to go for something original, not ww or rend, but it turned out that I just killed faster than my light sorc with the right rend equipment + talents.
This is million miles away from being a best barb build. In fact, its damage output is pathetic. I was able to hit this boss for 3k-5k per hit with my barb.
Frenzy + buffed upheaval is the only possible build to even kill the later bosses. There is also bleeding build but that has zero aoe and is annoying. Barb life = Respec for every boss 😢
everyone is a Gangsta until they use Barbarian in my opinion weakest class of Diablo iv i think it needs some love cuse i have seen videos of the same boss but with sorcerers and Rogues and they finish him in secs.
I think it just needs some overall balancing to bring up the weaker aspects. Some builds can be really good, but you need a lot of pieces with those builds.
Really bad representation of barb, mine is an unkillable damage dealing beast. If you have the weapons with core damage on them you crit for 10k+. I had to stand in a shot by the world boss so I could use my barrier ability. Barb is strong as fuck.
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Even though the Barbarian is the weakest class of this beta, this build is still pretty strong.
You may try “bleeding” build, it’s pretty strong for Aoe or single target. It’s quite relaxing all the time 😊
@@chahwang5150 I used a combo of Thorns talent and it's upgrade that makes them bleed when taking thorns damage + the aspect that gives to stun when bleeding. I just stand there taking damage and watching them get stunned.
Barbarians are weakest because you can't get all your weapon masteries to rank 10 which provides a huge bonus.
I played a Rogue for my first build and I died so much but it wasn't till I got a few more skills and Legendaries to push my dmg and sustain before I felt awesome, around level 18ish. Whereas I never felt powerful on the Barb. However Sorc was uber strong from the get go.....so something tells me a lot will change at or towards the endgame. I still will never start a Barb as a season start because of how weak he felt early.
@@Drekonix I have 3 of my masteries at rank 10.
I used upheaval while leveling but whirlwind was the clear winner once I got enough points to support it. At then end of the beta I was killing bosses in under 10 seconds. Whirlwind has some clearly busted legendary affixes such as granting 80% crit chance. Once you have enough talent points to get the shouts and your ultimate, you barely need a basic skill any more as the bulk of your fury from shouts and whirlwind itself. As others have stated, there is also a thorns build. I didn't try this one but it looks pretty strong as well.
I tired that build and it doesn't come close to upheavel lunging strike build. You one shot 50mobs with upheavel
@@DaxRaider but you have to stand still to cast it, endgame will be about mobility, so thats when whirlwind shines
A class that is forced into melee should have more tools to withstand melee from bosses in my opinion. Even if I do less damage, I want to be able to stay on the boss and just dodge the big attacks. Seeing a barbarian having to run away kiting the boss while waiting for CDs to come back looks and feels (hit 25 on barb and wanted to uninstall) terrible. Hopefully with more points, gear, and levels the barb really comes online.
Aspect of the protector :D
@@Ubeer85 True that's helpful but overall the bard still feels lacking at this level and leveling. Did you watch the boss fight? Even with Aspect of the protector he still had to run around because you die if you don't. A barbarian should be face to face smashing the boss more than kiting imo. Like I said though, hard to really tell what endgame will feel like when I'm capped at 25.
Cooldown timers and rage generation are the biggest issue. These are somewhat tied together. The problem is just the uptime on shouts. If I wasn't so reliant on CD's, it would feel much better.
Hi you must be new to every Diablo game ever. Let me help you. Barb has always gotten the shit end of the stick through the level process. However in the end game they come online pretty good. That's the trade off Barb has always seen. Nothing new here.
Barb was just very undertuned in this beta, I fully expect it will be stronger on launch. It could also be one of those classes that starts off weaker, but gets most stronger once the builds come together.
I’ve been playing upheaval as well I think it feels pretty good, I just with it hit on top of your character a little better sometimes I miss it because enemies get too close. I don’t have the leap ring but I have a unique mace that gave says you deal fire damage to nearby enemies while enraged
I miss a bit with it too, that mace sounds pretty good for this build.
I have a feeling Blizzard knew what it was doing when they designed the starting outfit resembling Southern Water Tribe apparel
hammer of the ancients with the weapon chain ultimate was op as shit when i played it. it was a weird build though, felt slow at start during fury generation, but once its going it was doing like 3k-7k crits and it applied vuln pretty easily via the weapon chain ability. the legend effect that gives 180% dmg based off of fury generated past maximum and when that was full, you do the chain for vuln effect then hammer of ancients and if you crit it did absolutely insane dmg lol
Love the beta but it has one BIG flaw ; no matchmaking/party finder for dungeons. That’s absolutely ridiculous, hopefully we will have it on release
I doubt they will have a automatic group finder, but hopefully they have different chat channels you can join to find groups more easily.
Osterberg. I didn’t get any legendaries the entire weekend lol. I made it to lvl 22 without one dropping but my buddy who I was playing with most of the time had 10+ drop… very strange
Question how does Leap trigger Berserking since it makes no mention of activation? I'm still trying to get the hang of ARPGS, mainly an FPS guy.
You can actually get 26 skill points in the beta, extra one comes from a side quest.
I think you can get more then that when adding in the renown too
@@osterberg501 that 26 is including renown
My slam generator one shot/two shot most things, upheaval does the rest. Dongeon boss takes around 15s to kill with call of the ancients. Butcher was a clean kill. Need the 50% increase legend affix attack speed on generator skill though
This barb build is a little slower and kind of clunky. Instead of focusing on fury generation, focus on making enemies vulnerable while you proc berserker. No clue how the iron skin healing truly helps, but getting the legendary item that builds fortitude when attacking with full fury seems to be far better imo. Most of my damage will come from Frenzy, no joke. If you get berserker up while the target is vulnerable(proc in many ways) have frenzy stacked up and the legendary that makes your basic skills attack 30% faster and you can face tank this boss and down him in a minute or two on hard. I also pick up multiple shouts and have the legendary that reduces the cooldowns of shouts when there are 5 or more enemies around. The more shouts you have, the more CDR. Also try to stack weapons with "+20% basic skill damage" or "+7% damage to closer enemies" and you can get frenzy to hit for 150 per sword, so 300 every click with stacked attack speed it's insane. Not as strong as Sorc but feels better than rogue at that point.
Also don't even bother with ultimates, the cooldowns are so long and barely worth the ability slot. Better to have more defense to face tank everything and building around vulnerable procs, berserker procs, attack speed, fortitude and rely on maxed out frenzy as main source for single target dmg, upheavel for AoE. Hell even death shot or whatever it's called is nice for clearing trash with no fury, it resets the CD if it's used on a killing blow. The move speed buff is useless but the unstoppable perk is nice maybe in HC mode, not normal.
The internet is exploding with ''BEST BUILD OPTIONS'' from eveyone. I like your content but plz dont join the silly bandwagon. The barb really need the aspect of the protector to shine. That made a huge difference for me and im only having groundstomp as defensive skill. I think the barb will catch up to the other classes in power at lategame. Having 4 weapons with legendary powers is probably gonna be really potent the more lv and better gear you get
They need a damn buff straight up
I agree with this comment. People saying best builds don't know shit. I respect the content from this creator but he doesn't know anything yet.
I throw those build alway and went straight to thorn build and watch mobs killing themselves, elite or not it still die pretty fast.😅
the thorns build is waaaay stronger than this, doing 8k crits - hardly the weakest class xD
Yeah, I was dying a lot before trying this build. Barb doesn't feel strong in beta, hopefully that changes on release.
How u die with barbarian? He one shots everything teleports never gets hit and 5sec every boss
Lunging strike upheavel is better. U have best mobility and one shot mobs with the DMG+bleed
Thorns/Bleed build is far stronger + maelstrom of steel with the cooldown reduction perk is OP as fuck. One shots anything. Also none of this matters because its a level 25 capped beta where you cant access most of the build enabling content LMAO
i honestly dont understand how people are saying the barb is the worst class in the beta. i found it to be the best one and thats coming from someone who plays sorc only.
I've been watching videos of barb gameplay and most I see are pretty bad. Everyone is running around kiting and even running away. If not running away, they keep chasing enemies who kite which looks pathetic. Its is unlike what the lore of barbarian suggests.
I was in the impression that barbs can tank hits. Are people just missing out on some skills or there is no to little ways to be a tanky barb? I remember in D3 melee characters have an inherent % damage received reduction. Is this not present in d4?
Every gameplay I've seen, the barb feels slow and lumbering. No mobility skills?
I think Barbarians are just undertuned right now, there are still some very strong builds IF you get all the correct piece. I think they just need to balance out the weaker parts of the class.
this is not even close to be the best barb build. i was running ww and killed bosses on vet difficulty in less than 10 sec. call to the ancients was insanely helpful.
Why you whait to release the video?
Nah, it's far from being the best one. I really at first wanted to go for something original, not ww or rend, but it turned out that I just killed faster than my light sorc with the right rend equipment + talents.
This is million miles away from being a best barb build. In fact, its damage output is pathetic. I was able to hit this boss for 3k-5k per hit with my barb.
Frenzy + buffed upheaval is the only possible build to even kill the later bosses. There is also bleeding build but that has zero aoe and is annoying.
Barb life = Respec for every boss 😢
True, Barbs were very undertuned this beta. It was kind of fun facing some of these bosses on hard mode though.
Rend op is better
everyone is a Gangsta until they use Barbarian in my opinion weakest class of Diablo iv i think it needs some love cuse i have seen videos of the same boss but with sorcerers and Rogues and they finish him in secs.
I think it just needs some overall balancing to bring up the weaker aspects. Some builds can be really good, but you need a lot of pieces with those builds.
I use the hammer of the ancients build instead of upheaval. Also, your build is very weak single target.
Really bad representation of barb, mine is an unkillable damage dealing beast. If you have the weapons with core damage on them you crit for 10k+. I had to stand in a shot by the world boss so I could use my barrier ability. Barb is strong as fuck.
Not a very good build you can out damage this with a rend or hammer of the ancients build
no. The answer is no.
you need to repair
The best build is thorns/rend build
TBF it looks terrible.