I had very few good teachers but I am thinking of one of them now that first taught me in the 9th grade 49 years ago. He had a PhD in chemistry but was so knowledgeable in so many areas. He also taught me chemistry and tutored me in math a few years later. The man taught for the love of teaching and knew how to teach. He passed away in the late 90's in his mid 50's but I still think of him often. If you would have been my HS shop teacher I would say the same about you and your teaching skills and would have good memories of you even though I would have been one of the students that threw spitballs and other things.
The milling attachment is handy for small jobs. The end mill is the problem if you do not have a holder the right size. Thanks for another great edutainment video.
How did I miss this one? It was eight days ago and You Tube just mentioned it, those dirty dogs!! Great little project, I always enjoy watching you work Mr. Pete.
I love how you almost always have the item in stock. I feel the same way that people will call you a horder, but the reality is in so many videos I have seen you pull out materials, parts pieces, and fastners from your in stock hardware store. It's awesome, Tubalcain!
Mr Pete. I wanted to say thank you for sharing your many years of knowledge and experience. Whatever you show us, whether simple or complex, the teacher in you shines through. I, and probably many other loyal viewers, may never do what you’ve demonstrated but there are lessons that can be applied to other situations. Your calm and deliberate presentation and your wry sense of humor are just enjoyable to observe. I hope you never feel under appreciated because you’ve become a UA-cam institution and we love to watch you do what you do, even if we don’t, can’t or won’t do it. Please keep em coming for a long time. 🥸👍👀
This video is timely, as I have started using my milling attachment on my Boxford lathe, it is the exact same design, (as is the lathe as the 9" South Bend), although mine has a nice friction dial on the top., but basically the same, you have me thinking about a lock now, it's definately needed, thanks a lot Mr. Pete, food for thought indeed!
Thanks for your videos. It was interesting to note that if unaware that the original had a crank the knob looks like it belongs, something about the style and finish worked well.
Fabulous! So lovely to see how easy it is, with the appropriate knowledge & tools, to bring an incomplete tool into a complete tool.Thank you for sharing!
I prepared for you to broach the knob with a 3/16" broach. The milled slot works just as well and is much simpler. Thanks also for pointing out the misapplication of the mill drill. I have made the same error and not understood that I was plowing with the tip. A solution is to mill a small square in bottom in the root of the V or use a conventional mill and angle the head or work as you stated. Should you mark a reference edge on your V jaw since you used raw stock? This would ensure jaw parallelism to the milling vise reference jaw and make it simpler to ensure round work holding parallelism to the lathe cross slide travel. Great video subject. I see that your Atlas milling attachment is as pristine as mine. Milling in the lathe is so impractical and limited my attachment stays in the tool chest drawer, but will enhance my lathe resale value!😃
Thanks Mr Pete, interesting to see these things. Useful gadgets until you get a milling machine of course. A demo on the use of such gadgets might be worth considering. I'm sure your South Bend one would benefit from a slide locking screw.
As a person without a milling machine and one who actually does milling on the lathe these rigs are useful however I don't know why anyone who owns one or more milling machines would ever bother. The time to set up the lathe for milling combined with the limited travel and with gravity working against you to make set up more fiddly would certainly cause a person to never set up the lathe to actually mill. If you're using the lathe both as a lathe and a mill there is also the careful planning when machining parts due to the time and frustration involved in switching back and forth which is quite time consuming given the tramming involved. When it's all said and done I suppose I can be happy that I spent only a little over $100 in a fixture to do this. The hours involved were countless since I did this with the popular chinese mini lathe. I also made a cross feed lead screw that is longer than what comes with the machine to give me approximately 5" of x-axis travel. The y-axis attachment being a little more than 3" giving me something close to the specs Mr. Pete showed for the 9" lathe in the chart. Some day I may acquire a milling machine which makes this all moot. I suppose many who travel this road end up wondering why they just didn't buy a milling machine and getting it over with in the beginning. 😀
Thank you for this comment. Everything you said is absolutely true. That is why I have made very few videos to show how to use it. It has about 10% the value of a real milling machine
Nicely done video as always. I’m fortunate to still have the original jaws for this attachment. If anyone wants the “authentic” measurements they are .375”x1”x3.55” with a groove depth between .150” and .160”.
Great content..... Have seen these go for $5-$15 at auction houses, no one knows what they are for except the buyer. I think I would have milled a vertical vee groove to the horizontal vee centerline in each jaw for more versitality.
My first thought was that you could easily add a crank handle to one of the knob ends for speedier operation. That's what I did on my Palmgren milling attachment when I made a larger degreed knob using the idea you showed for making a larger cross-slide dial for my Logan lathe (which I did and love). Now I finally have a benchtop mill so I need to try and sell my attachment, I guess. Rob
Hello Lyle, I have a similar attachment for my Hercus lathe, although it has a specific vice on it. It gets used quite a lot, as I don´t have a milling machine.
"...probably lost since before Truman was in office". Chuckle... When it comes to these "over engineered" machines (actually they are properly engineered), the best we can hope for is to be good custodians of these machines; using them the way they were intended, whole, maintaining and keeping them in (or near) spec, and hopefully the next generations continue on the same or better with them (keeping them out of the scrap heap).
Good afternoon Mr. Pete, first proje t for my SB 10k milling attachment is modifying the new aloris style tool post Tee nut to fit my compound. Thanks for all of your videos. Peace mjm
Attachments v dedicated tools are always the major crux in the hobbyist/home workshop. Thank you for an interesting video - not entirely related to metalwork, but I remember black and decker having this multi attachment system to it's standard 350 watt home DIY drill, including a circular buzz saw attachment that would stall the machine if it cut anything thicker than 1/8 inch hardboard! lol
Recently found your site, great videos. Since it seems you are very familiar with South Bend lathes and their attachments, have you ever done one on what to look for when you are checking out a lathe to purchase? Problem areas, sources for replacement parts, etc. I'm seriously considering a 13" that I know is for sale, but I'd like to go over it really well before I buy. I'm mostly familiar with Hardinge and Cazenueve lathes. Thanks, Dan
My Sheldon 11-44 uses the same tool post and I have the milling attachment like that as well as a tool post grinder (the good kind). Might have been a Military requirement for mass production houses to have common parts. Mine was purchased by Dad as I had big eyes in the massive country machine store. I even found the salesman maybe 10 years ago retired. My G-Box is not fancy Varnish but is Fancy black silk (to hide the wood used) war issue. (During Korea - actually just before).
I was thinking you could mill a T into the slot so that the knob would be held on once it was turned. A pointed grubscrew would also work, as you suggest.
@@mrpete222 I hope it wasn't too painful ;) Reminds me of a 70s/80s British comedy Tv series called "The Gaffer" (Starring Bill Maynard) who came out with the line... "When you get to my age, anything that's not dried up, leaks."
would you show the use of the Armature cutting attachment that was available for these lathes? I have most of the parts for my little Sears lathe, it would be nice to see a complete setup and use. Love your efforts!
FYI. For some reason I will watch two 13 minute videos without much contemplation but if it is one 26 minute video I will often skip it or skip through it unless it is of great interest to me. (And almost all of Mr. Petes' videos are).
Hello Mr. Pete. I have the milling attachment for my Myford ML7 lathe. I always have problems in setting the work piece securely in the vise when the milling attachment is already installed on the lathe. This is particularly true if parallel bars are needed to seat the workpiece to avoid the jaws. Holding things in place to tighten the vise and to maintain the work piece seated properly on the parallels, or vise ways I find difficult. Any suggestions?
I need a recommendation/referral from you or from your viewers. I remember you doing that video on the Mack bulldog. I’d like to have an casting made of my English mastiff and replace the current Mack bulldog on a truck hood with it.
I really like your green shirt!!! That would be my favorite shirt if it were mine! Not a hint, so you don't have to send it to me for my birthday, unless I can't talk you out of sending it!
I need to find a lathe milling attachment with about 3"-4" of vertical travel. I want to mount it to my drill press to hold cutting tools so I can do light turning on my drill press. Any recommendations?
Probably the atlas would be best. but I am not sure how much vertical travel it has. Whatever you do bye, make sure it does not interfere with the drill press head.
Great way to start a winter Sunday morning by watching a Mr. Pete video. Now back to the real world with the honey do list.
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I had very few good teachers but I am thinking of one of them now that first taught me in the 9th grade 49 years ago. He had a PhD in chemistry but was so knowledgeable in so many areas. He also taught me chemistry and tutored me in math a few years later. The man taught for the love of teaching and knew how to teach. He passed away in the late 90's in his mid 50's but I still think of him often. If you would have been my HS shop teacher I would say the same about you and your teaching skills and would have good memories of you even though I would have been one of the students that threw spitballs and other things.
Thank you very much for it I am honored that you think about me that way.
your other teacher Must have been a real fine educator
The milling attachment is handy for small jobs. The end mill is the problem if you do not have a holder the right size. Thanks for another great edutainment video.
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How did I miss this one? It was eight days ago and You Tube just mentioned it, those dirty dogs!! Great little project, I always enjoy watching you work Mr. Pete.
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Worth a "like" every day of the week!
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My Dad had one for the Atlas that was in the basement. It got little use - thanks Mr Pete, interesting video. John
I love how you almost always have the item in stock. I feel the same way that people will call you a horder, but the reality is in so many videos I have seen you pull out materials, parts pieces, and fastners from your in stock hardware store. It's awesome, Tubalcain!
It’s nice to have your own hardware store, if you can only find what you’re looking for. Sometimes it’s faster to go downtown.
Lol, that's the only downside when you know you have it but can't find it. 😅
Mr Pete. I wanted to say thank you for sharing your many years of knowledge and experience. Whatever you show us, whether simple or complex, the teacher in you shines through. I, and probably many other loyal viewers, may never do what you’ve demonstrated but there are lessons that can be applied to other situations. Your calm and deliberate presentation and your wry sense of humor are just enjoyable to observe. I hope you never feel under appreciated because you’ve become a UA-cam institution and we love to watch you do what you do, even if we don’t, can’t or won’t do it. Please keep em coming for a long time. 🥸👍👀
Thank you very much for your kind words and appreciated support. Keep watching
This video is timely, as I have started using my milling attachment on my Boxford lathe, it is the exact same design, (as is the lathe as the 9" South Bend), although mine has a nice friction dial on the top., but basically the same, you have me thinking about a lock now, it's definately needed, thanks a lot Mr. Pete, food for thought indeed!
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It is so nice to watch these videos where 99.999% of the stuff shown is Made in USA! Thanks for sharing.
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The iPhone camera is delivering excellent results! Nice to see you making chips!
The attachments are well made and bring an other perspective to the way we think.Thank you.
nice attachment. My brother has been looking for one for his craftsman .
HI guys from Victoria Australia 🇦🇺🇦🇺 hope you all have a great 2022 stay safe and well guys 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
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Hi! Great video! I just love watching this channel and when you use the Milling machine that makes me happy! Take care!
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Thanks for your videos. It was interesting to note that if unaware that the original had a crank the knob looks like it belongs, something about the style and finish worked well.
Thanks
Fabulous! So lovely to see how easy it is, with the appropriate knowledge & tools, to bring an incomplete tool into a complete tool.Thank you for sharing!
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I prepared for you to broach the knob with a 3/16" broach. The milled slot works just as well and is much simpler.
Thanks also for pointing out the misapplication of the mill drill. I have made the same error and not understood that I was plowing with the tip. A solution is to mill a small square in bottom in the root of the V or use a conventional mill and angle the head or work as you stated.
Should you mark a reference edge on your V jaw since you used raw stock? This would ensure jaw parallelism to the milling vise reference jaw and make it simpler to ensure round work holding parallelism to the lathe cross slide travel.
Great video subject.
I see that your Atlas milling attachment is as pristine as mine. Milling in the lathe is so impractical and limited my attachment stays in the tool chest drawer, but will enhance my lathe resale value!😃
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Simple yet effective solution for crank handle replacement. I think I will do the same for a broken handle on my thickness planer.
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Thanks Mr Pete
All the best information
Thanks Mr Pete, interesting to see these things. Useful gadgets until you get a milling machine of course. A demo on the use of such gadgets might be worth considering. I'm sure your South Bend one would benefit from a slide locking screw.
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Glad to see you back making chips.
Thanks Mr Pete another great job today thank you very much for what you do
Goodmorning MrPete great video on how the the milling attachment works.
As a person without a milling machine and one who actually does milling on the lathe these rigs are useful however I don't know why anyone who owns one or more milling machines would ever bother. The time to set up the lathe for milling combined with the limited travel and with gravity working against you to make set up more fiddly would certainly cause a person to never set up the lathe to actually mill. If you're using the lathe both as a lathe and a mill there is also the careful planning when machining parts due to the time and frustration involved in switching back and forth which is quite time consuming given the tramming involved.
When it's all said and done I suppose I can be happy that I spent only a little over $100 in a fixture to do this. The hours involved were countless since I did this with the popular chinese mini lathe. I also made a cross feed lead screw that is longer than what comes with the machine to give me approximately 5" of x-axis travel. The y-axis attachment being a little more than 3" giving me something close to the specs Mr. Pete showed for the 9" lathe in the chart.
Some day I may acquire a milling machine which makes this all moot. I suppose many who travel this road end up wondering why they just didn't buy a milling machine and getting it over with in the beginning. 😀
Thank you for this comment. Everything you said is absolutely true. That is why I have made very few videos to show how to use it. It has about 10% the value of a real milling machine
Nicely done video as always. I’m fortunate to still have the original jaws for this attachment. If anyone wants the “authentic” measurements they are .375”x1”x3.55” with a groove depth between .150” and .160”.
Thank you, wish I would’ve had those dimensions last week
@@mrpete222 always the way it goes!
Great content..... Have seen these go for $5-$15 at auction houses, no one knows what they are for except the buyer.
I think I would have milled a vertical vee groove to the horizontal vee centerline in each jaw for more versitality.
My first thought was that you could easily add a crank handle to one of the knob ends for speedier operation. That's what I did on my Palmgren milling attachment when I made a larger degreed knob using the idea you showed for making a larger cross-slide dial for my Logan lathe (which I did and love). Now I finally have a benchtop mill so I need to try and sell my attachment, I guess.
Rob
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nice tools when you need one. nice improvements.
This is a pleasant surprise! I have what I believe is the exact same milling attachment out in the shop, and it' s missing the jaws and crank!
I do hope to see some demonstrations and your commentary on using the milling attachments.
Hello Lyle, I have a similar attachment for my Hercus lathe, although it has a specific vice on it. It gets used quite a lot, as I don´t have a milling machine.
Good morning Mr Pete it has been a long time since we've seen you make chips,thanks for the video🤗😎🤗
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"...probably lost since before Truman was in office". Chuckle...
When it comes to these "over engineered" machines (actually they are properly engineered), the best we can hope for is to be good custodians of these machines; using them the way they were intended, whole, maintaining and keeping them in (or near) spec, and hopefully the next generations continue on the same or better with them (keeping them out of the scrap heap).
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so glad to see you again!
Good afternoon Mr. Pete, first proje t for my SB 10k milling attachment is modifying the new aloris style tool post Tee nut to fit my compound. Thanks for all of your videos. Peace mjm
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Attachments v dedicated tools are always the major crux in the hobbyist/home workshop. Thank you for an interesting video - not entirely related to metalwork, but I remember black and decker having this multi attachment system to it's standard 350 watt home DIY drill, including a circular buzz saw attachment that would stall the machine if it cut anything thicker than 1/8 inch hardboard! lol
I remember that Sunbeam also made a drill set with all kinds of worthless attachments
Good morning and thanks
Short sweet and to the point! Thanks!
Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.👍👀
When Truman was in office. About the time I was born! Ouch!!
Thanks for the video.
Good stuff Lisle! Thanks.
I enjoyed this video. Thank you for posting
Nice work. Thank you for the video.
Nicely done... Thanks for Sharing ... Stay Safe...
Recently found your site, great videos.
Since it seems you are very familiar with South Bend lathes and their attachments, have you ever done one on what to look for when you are checking out a lathe to purchase? Problem areas, sources for replacement parts, etc. I'm seriously considering a 13" that I know is for sale, but I'd like to go over it really well before I buy. I'm mostly familiar with Hardinge and Cazenueve lathes. Thanks, Dan
another wonderful video Tubalcain......cheers from Orlando, Paul
Thank you Paul
Thanks mr Pete love it!
Good video.
My Sheldon 11-44 uses the same tool post and I have the milling attachment like that as well as a tool post grinder (the good kind). Might have been a Military requirement for mass production houses to have common parts. Mine was purchased by Dad as I had big eyes in the massive country machine store. I even found the salesman maybe 10 years ago retired. My G-Box is not fancy Varnish but is Fancy black silk (to hide the wood used) war issue. (During Korea - actually just before).
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4:00 Lovely instruction there - "wear safety glasses - tool might break"
Who knew tools broke - occasionally ? Usually just the once, actually.
Mr Pete, You and I have one thing in common we both love resurrecting mechanical devices. 73
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Great video dear man. Thank you very much:))
I wish I had a milling attachment for my early 1960s Boxford AUD.
Pete what great on one 4 craftsman
I was thinking you could mill a T into the slot so that the knob would be held on once it was turned. A pointed grubscrew would also work, as you suggest.
I did end up putting a grub screw into the knob
@@mrpete222 I hope it wasn't too painful ;)
Reminds me of a 70s/80s British comedy Tv series called "The Gaffer" (Starring Bill Maynard) who came out with the line...
"When you get to my age, anything that's not dried up, leaks."
would you show the use of the Armature cutting attachment that was available for these lathes? I have most of the parts for my little Sears lathe, it would be nice to see a complete setup and use. Love your efforts!
I do not have one of those attachments
Good morning Mr.Pete I'm back from my slight mental breakdown haha. I missed a couple weeks of content
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Might not be the right tool but ya gotta dance with the girl you got.
FYI. For some reason I will watch two 13 minute videos without much contemplation but if it is one 26 minute video I will often skip it or skip through it unless it is of great interest to me. (And almost all of Mr. Petes' videos are).
Thanks
Hello Mr. Pete. I have the milling attachment for my Myford ML7 lathe. I always have problems in setting the work piece securely in the vise when the milling attachment is already installed on the lathe. This is particularly true if parallel bars are needed to seat the workpiece to avoid the jaws. Holding things in place to tighten the vise and to maintain the work piece seated properly on the parallels, or vise ways I find difficult. Any suggestions?
The shaper out in the cold, cold garage could also have been used to form the v-groove.
Morning sir
I need a recommendation/referral from you or from your viewers. I remember you doing that video on the Mack bulldog. I’d like to have an casting made of my English mastiff and replace the current Mack bulldog on a truck hood with it.
I really like your green shirt!!! That would be my favorite shirt if it were mine! Not a hint, so you don't have to send it to me for my birthday, unless I can't talk you out of sending it!
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I need to find a lathe milling attachment with about 3"-4" of vertical travel. I want to mount it to my drill press to hold cutting tools so I can do light turning on my drill press. Any recommendations?
Probably the atlas would be best. but I am not sure how much vertical travel it has. Whatever you do bye, make sure it does not interfere with the drill press head.
Goodluck, you will be limited to drill chuck capacity and still put side load on your work peice and it will drop out of the drill press......
Aha, I have what i thought was a small V block , that I now realize is one of those jaws :-)
This is in regards to your tool personel tool auction, what happened ?
The auction is over. It was a temporary video. All of the items are sold
I can scarcely imagine machine tooling for $3.75. Now since its obsolete, it may again sell for 3 bucks.
I have the Atlas Milling Attachment and a South Bend Wide 9 Lathe. Anybody want to trade Atlas for South Bend milling attachments?