Natalie adopts her deceased brother's ten-year-old son in 2000. Despite being a biological relation and a twenty-two age difference, Gerald demands that the relationship between him and his adoptive mother ( biological aunt /father's sister ) be something "more." Inspite of Gerald's demonstrative criminal behavior, Natalie still grants him access to her inner sanctum. In that "granted access," she is beaten, raped and murdered. Shortly afterward, Gerald disposes his and her bloody clothes in a local dumpster, and her lifeless corpse in the woods three miles away!? If ever there was a case that called out for a sentence of death, this is it! But no. Something has gone very wrong with our criminal justice system long ago.
I'd say 90% of the time that's a super common sense, hard & fast rule- but... Especially since it's poor/ low income ppl that get arrested most often, & are those most likely to have to post bail when they do.. there's some possible exceptions. For instance, an abusive partner may need to the cops called on them if they're outta control, & it's better they stay in jail since they're dangerous- But sadly, Many women (& sometimes men too) are forced to stay physically abusive relationships to keep themselves from homelessness- especially if they're experiencing health issues/ disabled, battling addiction, or have kids w/ health issues, etc. Someone (again, most often women but men too) may need to call 911 in a scary moment to protect themselves, but also be unable to leave. Not everyone has family or good friends they can count on to help in such a situation- if they did , they probably wouldn't stay with an abuser to begin with. They may decide to end the relationship after that,&make a plan to leave, but most ppl in the U.S. have only a few hundred $$ to spare; realistically many need time to save, or contact a DV shelter for assistance. They'd likely plan not to leave right away, afraid their abuser will come for them when once theyre out of jail- maybe if they spnt bail their partner out, a friend or rheir parent will, then they're angry & blame their victim. The victim may know that when an abused partner tries to leave the relationship is when they're most likely to be killed by their abuser. It may be safer to wait for a bed to become available at a DV shelter- which could be weeks or months. Or to save $ to be able to get farther away when they do leave. Most abusers will call their victims to bail them out- & the victim knows what may happen if the abuser is left in jail, getting more angry... or they may not be able to make rent w/ out the partner's help, & so needs to make sure the abuser gets out to be able to stay employed- especially if she will be filing for child support/ alimony. Lots of factors that could make getting someone you had to call the police on to save your self from harm or even possible death, but 80% of women forced to live on the street when homeless get raped. Stats for co-ed shelters are almost as bad. Often ppl that are especially vulnerable- either economically, emotionally, mentally, physically, etc, like women. or men in marginalized groups, can have no good options & figure it's safer to deal- at least temporarily- or until they can escape safely- w/ the Devil they know. A
Except they won’t-they’ll actually bring you gifts if you’re kind to them. Perhaps they would eat you if you died and they were hungry. Although I get your point, crows are incredibly intelligent animals who can form bonds with humans who care for them. -just saying.
What a horrible nephew. So disgusting of a person. I am glad they gave him a life sentence. I hope they never let him out what a creep to kill his aunt and adoptive mother. This story is really disturbing.
It's always horrible and disgusting when entitled men rape and kill women they have unrequited crushes on. The only thing that makes this case particularly heinous is the extra violation of trust. Natalie would have been cautious of a co-worker or neighbor who'd expressed such sentiments, and she definitely wouldn't have allowed them into her home, and then gone to sleep with them there. And she certainly wouldn't have dropped the criminal charges for theft for them.
@@InLieuTube The perpetrator is the son of the victims brother, and so the victim was the sister of murderers (deceased)father. And hence the victim was NOT the perpetrator's cousin, she was his aunt on his fathers side (AND his adoptive mother).
Incest is so common that I believe it should be more completely addressed in public service announcement s (commercials), as well school starting no later than kindergarten. Twenty-five of some kindergarten classroom have children who have already been sexually assaulted
Twenty-five percent of children in some kindergarten classroom have already been sexually assaulted, usually by family, so some people think sex with a family member is not taboo.
In these situations, i think the lawyers use copy and paste stories that they know juries wont believe. I would hope its their way of still trying to get him convicted while also doing their job.
Every defendant has the right to plead 'not guilty' regardless of the evidence against them. In cases where the evidence is overwhelming but the defendant still refuses to accept responsibility, then their lawyers tend to just make up preposterous explanations, because there really isn't anything else they can do.
I created a better saying than what you started with... "Tis wise to do good deeds but be careful of who whom you do them for." And the perp was such an ungrateful pile of manure.
I've had a troubled life that I've always fought to overcome. I've improved myself through hard work and self reflection. Through the years I've had a number of friends who also came from troubled families. My biggest mistake has been that I've believed that these people also truly want to get better. I put up with a lot of disappointment and lack of concern from these friends. I've found that my fear of loneliness blinded me to their persistent negativity and lack of concern for me. The hardest lesson is that everyone, even the worst people, have some good in them. That still doesn't make them good people or good to be around.
Yeah, we call them "frenemies", because some people will pose as, or act like friends, but would stab you in the back without any remorse. Psychopaths always take advantage of people's good nature. They see kindness as weakness and will take advantage of a good person and become parasites, or worse.
I don’t support the death penalty, not because I don’t believe certain people (like Jerry) deserve it, but because I don’t believe the state should have that much power. It’s that belief I cling to when I see cases like this.
I often wonder why Christians who believe no matter the sin, that Christ will forgive the sinner if the sinner excepts Christ as their Savior. They also believe in the death penalty. Why would they want to send a murderer to Heaven sooner than absolutely necessary? I say let them rot in prison, and keep them healthy to think about what they have done. Life is the punishment, that's why babies always cry when born.
@@BL-hw4mn I’m with you there, too much power and also it’s not a secret that there have been many wrongful convictions as well, including death row and even ppl that have been executed. Not having the death penalty isn’t for Jerry in this case (while he is certain deserving…) but for those who I just mentioned especially
when I was young I naively believed that the intentions and actions you put into the world would automatically be understood and reciprocal but now I'm middle aged and cynical I realise that is just not true. I've got two wonderful daughters and I trust them with my whole heart but that's it, and I never assume the people around them are to be trusted either. I'm very watchful now and realise kindness can be a path to danger in itself. It's awful to realise that about the world but it is what it is. Poor Natalie RIP.
@@TheWraith7 So long as you aren’t pathologically attracting people with personality disorders. I refer to Ross Rosenberg who is a well known Psychotherapist. He wrote the Human Magnet Syndrome, that explains the dynamics between the co-dependent vs narcissist. The therapy he recommends is based upon training the co-dependent, to self-focus their kindness as a way of disengaging from repetition compulsion, where there is a tendency to attract predatory personalities. Unfortunately narcopaths choose easy targets and victims being kind, is attractive to their predatory nature.
"Tis wise to do good deeds but be careful of who whom you do them for." That's what I say. It's still good to be kind and altruistic but just be careful. It's not either / or.
@@TheWraith7 Exactly. We should never let stuff like this harden us and make us selfish jerks. The world needs kindness, charity and altruism and most people are generally okay to really good. The rub is to BE CAREFUL!
Natalie was a kind hearted beautiful woman, so sorry this horrific crime was committed against her. How do these defence attorneys have no problem victim blaming? I'll never understand this. Thanks Dr Grande Happy New year to you and your family ❣️
@@SwitchTF2 I know that but as I said it's the victim blaming I have a problem with.. I'd rather be a prosecutor any day or even better not do law altogether
@@Linda72. I see what you mean. There must be ways of doing your job as a defense attorney without beeing a scambag yourself. However, I didnt thought they were victim blaming by suggesting she had consensual sex with Jerry, its more a narrative battle imo. I've seen real victim blaming cases, I just don't think that was the case necessarily.
@@Linda72. oh, believe me theres ethical issues with being a prosecutor. The uncomfortable truth is, the world would be a very scary place without DEFENSE ATTORNEYS. Prosecutors, cops, etc they dont actually do what they do for the reasons you think. And prosecutors dont exist in this moral shield like people want to believe. Défense lawyers are not actually trying to get guilty people off. They protect people, all people, from having their rights violated. Prosecutors and juries, courts, convict innocent people everyday, all the time on good/strong evidence AND on bad/weak evidence. Our legal system was created to protect the accused because the true tyranny is a legal system where an accused person cant actually defend themselves. Our system is not perfect but it is the fairest system when compared to every other legal system. It is the ONLY legal system that recognizes the importance of doing everything to protect innocent people from being convicted. When ben Franklin said "its better 12 guilty men go free then one innocent person be hanged ", that is literally the founding principle of the American legal system. Legal justice does not mean what people think it does. And the rules are as they are to ensure EVERYONE can defend and explain themselves. This system has these rules, and its unique. No other legal system is innocent until proven guilty, the burden is on the prosecution to prove guilt. Every other system à defendant must prove innocence without the power, money, resources as the government. Prosecutors dont actually pursue justice for victims and their families. Every crime is considered a crime against society as a whole. Theres so much more to this but I wont keep going. Ill end with that its supposed to be difficult to convict people criminally. But its not that difficult in this country because of feelings like yours. Actual guilt and legal guilt are NOT the same thing. And lawyers arz taught this in law school. Its why lawyers always get disillusioned with the law after law school or after a couple years of practice. Prosecutors play up the gaurdians and fighters for justice because it serves them. But both sides actually really do that. The reason most lawyers can defend anyone accused of the worst crimes? Because they arent trying to get them off. They make sure that a persons right are not violated, that prosecutors and cops (the government by the way) follows the rules and prosecute people the right way. That if a person is convicted its beyond a reasonable doubt. Its very serious on both sides, but never underestimate how much is acting and à show and lawyers trying to charm and persuade with their intellect and charisma. Juries are not lawyers or educated on the law and atent actually supposed to and are not expected to make decisions based on law (though défense lawyers are forbidden to remind juries about this. To ensure that juries atleast use more reason than emotion but juries are NOT supposed to remove all emotion, just balance it with reason, while judges arent supposed to consider emotion at all). Also, the last thing, people would benefit from putting themselves in the accused persons shoes, as well as the victims. Every individual has just as much à chance at being accused of a crime as they are being a victim of crime. And even if someone is guilty, humans are capable of having compassion for the actor of a bad act, without taking any compassion away from the individual hurt by the act. Its another uncomfortable truth that human nature and psychology are very complex things and limiting anyone as "all bad" or "all good" is a simple thing. And just as every human has amazing potential to do good things, reason dictates that it also has to go the other way, and humans are capable of the worst in humanity and a lot of factors and TIME go into what every one of us is capable of. You know, if you read books by holocaust survivors, you would find that all of them, discovered very dark things about themselves after events beyond their control set up the circumstances that allowed them to discover it. There is a dark side to human nature and it lives in every one of us (im not saying that that doesn't mean there shouldn't be consequences or punishment). Anyway, sorry for the novel. Thanks for hearing me out if you read this far. I'm a law student, thr daughter of a lawyer, and my best friend is a deputy district attorney.
It's the same exact way with having your own biological children. It's so many kids & adults killing their parents I can barely keep count. This woman definitely did not deserve what this POS did too her. But you're own flesh and blood & could be the one to take your life not just adopted kids.
@@sr2291 my point is that your biological children could murder you just as an adopted childhood. You can't dictate or monitor what is going on inside of their head. Evil is evil biological or not
He already violated her trust when he stole from her. Unfortunately some of us are not taught boundaries. When someone steals from you, you have to make them earn your trust back not just hand it back freely. I mean I honestly think when someone steals from you, they should probably be removed from your life, but I understand why she would have a hard time completely giving up on her nephew. I can't believe how many people in this world still think having boundaries is being too much or being a bad person when they are the natural dynamic of relationships and how we protect ourselves emotionally. And unfortunately in this case physically. No one who steals both valuable and sentimental things from you should have access to your bedroom.
I simply hate the defence team for saying the sex was consensual, no f***ing way it was. Blaming the victim and portraying women as these super voloptuous beings, it is so offensive to her, it's disgrace. If it was consensual why would he killed her? Some lawyers would do anything to win the case, it's shameful. The defence was nonsensical and beyond stupid.
Good morning, Dr. Grande! No good deed goes unpunished, especially where a psycho with a mother fixation is concerned. And thank heavens for the vultures, who found her body, and the neighbor's security cameras, which provided important facts regarding the timeline of the crime, as well as the other security cameras that caught images of Natalie and her vehicle.
I’d be curious to know how these defense lawyers sleep after having to concoct such a defense when they had to have known this guy was nothing but guilty.
This is genuinely heartbreaking! I hate that good people who want to see the good in others and try to help them get hurt so often. I’ve learned the hard way that you cannot blindly trust anyone! I still try to help others, as long as what I’m doing doesn’t put myself or my children in a position to be hurt. It’s been a very painful realization, but I’m glad I even had the chance to see the error of my ways and change. Natalie did not. 💔
You know, it bothers me when a criminal defense includes a person's troubled childhood. I realize that growing up in a broken and abusive home could make a person feel hopeless. It could also make a person think "I deserve better" and go on to live a productive life. How do you defend a person that grew up in a loving two-parent home, never did without basic needs, was fully loved by both parents and brothers, did well in school; but grew up to be a total loser? Stole from their parents, stole from their brothers, stole from their niece and nephew, stole from their grand-niece's birthday, physically abused their mother, hasn't worked in 30 years, been arrested more times than one could count; and at 56 years old shows no signs of changing. The only thing they haven't done is kill someone. If I saw Dr Grande one day make a video about her murdering someone, I wouldn't be shocked. I am talking about my sister. None of what I listed above is an exaggeration. We grew up in a very privileged home. I don't mean privileged as in money, my Dad was merely a laborer at a concrete plant. But my folks devoted their lives to taking care of us kids. I can't think of any part of our childhood that was bad. My brother and I have done well as a result. But I don't know what the heck happened with our sister. You would almost think she grew up in the Manson family. So when I hear or read that a person's behavior is a result of a bad childhood, I think it's hogwash. People from a good childhood can turn out just as diabolical.
@@brenda726 she is the youngest. All of us are close in age; I am the middle child (which is usually the black sheep) and she is 1 1/2 years younger than me.
My grandmother lived to be 94 and she always said “Honey if you can’t have children, don’t adopt”. I know that’s sad but I truly believe some have traits in their DNA to commit crimes.
@@bbe3034 Great advise and honestly it's true. Too many kids that are up for adoption are completely messed up ( not saying it's their fault most of the times) and some of them won't ever recover even if they receive therapy for life. Nikolas Cruz is one of those examples. He was a complete mess since he was born due to his mother's alcohol and drug's use during the pregnancy and he did receive therapy since he was a kid and even with all of the resources that were dedicated to help him with his mental health he still ended up being a piece of shit that did terrible things. So yeah, adoptions are very risky. I will never understand why people would go through something as awful as that voluntarily. If their parents/family didn't want to take care of those kids is most likely because of a good reason.
My grandmother used to say if you cook the mother the children will eat but if you cook the children the mother won't eat. She used this to mean that children don't have the same feelings for their parents as parents do for their children. If your child is acting off don't think being their parent will save you.
Parental denial is one of the strongest drugs in the world. Natalie had let pure evil into her home and ignored all the crystal clear signs that Jeremy was a dangerous and violent criminal.
What a nasty guy, that smirk says it all. How sad she kept faith, had any relation with him. Yeah the intruder ruse again😑Good analysis again. Thanks Dr G😊🧡🤎
*Tamil Nadu | Body of a 34-year-old woman named Subashree, who went missing in Coimbatore, was recovered from a well yesterday. Her husband filed a missing complaint on Dec 19 after he did not find her at Isha Yoga Centre( Jaggi Vasudev/Sadguru's yoga centre) where she had come to attend yoga class* CC tv footage was released where the woman is running/escaping barefoot, in her yoga clothes with no bag or anything with her. Please do a video of this case to bring about awareness
Adoption can cause this. From Mayo Clinic Overview Reactive attachment disorder is a rare but serious condition in which an infant or young child doesn't establish healthy attachments with parents or caregivers. Reactive attachment disorder may develop if the child's basic needs for comfort, affection and nurturing aren't met and loving, caring, stable attachments with others are not established.
For many of us, it is unthinkable that a young man would sexually assault his aunt! It’s tough to take this. Natalie should have been safe with Jerry. She adopted him out of compassion. Really sad case. Ridiculous defense arguments!
Great analysis! She was very naive in this situation. Since she had other children she really needed to have her antenna up. I hope this analysis helps someone out there🙏
Gee, very tragic case! I hadn't heard this one before. Very creepy that he would think she should have romantic and/or sexual feelings toward him! Thanks!!! 🌚🌚🌚
I can't believe she let him stay after he admitted that to her. She needed to make sure he was out the house that day. Clearly he was sick in the head to even want to date his Aunt.
"Perhaps they used magical powers" This is the kind of science based analysis that I am here for. People often forget the role of magical powers in true crimes.
I went to high school with him… it’s crazy to think he would do something like this. Or people that exist that do such Evil. I knew his siblings as well.
What you will never see in adoption brochures are that 70% of adoptions fail. The common theme is "abandonment". I have seen two successful adoptions. All the rest have been failures, some disastrous as above, to include murder, prison, theft, addiction, and permanent estrangement. One dear couple I know adopted fraternal twins, five years old, from a third world country. It was beyond bad. The twins, now 9, would threaten their older siblings with murder. The neighbor children were not allowed to play with the kids. At GREAT expense, they found separate facilities on both sides of the country until they are 18. The fear is that they will return to avenge all of this on them or their children. Do you remember the woman that was excoriated by the press for dumping her recent Russian adoptee on the Moscow tarmac? Let's just say it was not pleasant to continue have that child in her home.
Even with his soothing calm voice, I cannot fall asleep listening to Dr. Grande. I am always alert to listen to the evaluation. I love listening to the stories. Can't fall asleep without hearing the end.
@@ninabrown3044 I will admit I’ve fallen asleep before finishing a grande video, but that doesn’t mean I don’t rewatch it the next morning while I make breakfast
This is such a disturbing case. Poor Natalie; she was so generous to take on this responsibility. I’m sure there were plenty detrimental affects on her own children before the murder. Her poor children.
Give that neighbor across from Natalie's house the good neighbor award of $1000. I think they should award any one that have contributed to the arrest of the perp. Maybe more will come forth to help.
Dr G - I value 3 traits in a person above all else: 1. Intelligence 2. Humor 3. Authenticity .. you appear to cover all those bases, and i respect you very much.... and if you don't mind, please put in a good word for me with the divine psychology powers that be, as this month I am heading to inpatient tx for the many substances I've allowed to devour my life. I look forward to catching up on your content when I get back, hopefully a new person
I’m praying for you! You can do this! And your body will heal and be strong for you and help you live a life full of meaning and free from the chains of addiction. You’ve survived harder things, I know it, you’re going to get through this stronger, better and more beautiful than ever. God bless you on your journey in this plane of existence ❤
She didn't just bring him into her home she adopted him and gave him unwavering love and support and he repays her with a horrible death. They better not ever let him out, he is heartless and evil!
I have heard first hand of adoptive parents who were assaulted by their adopted child. Can you review the data available on violent crimes against adoptive parents? A friend states that 50% of children in inpatient psychiatric care, are children who were adopted.What are the statistics for psychiatric hospitalizations due to serious behaviors of adoptive children? Do adoption agencies "gaslight" couples who long to have a family, about how high risk it is ( risking your life...) to adopt a child of unknown background?
I went to high school with this guy and he even lived in my neighborhood.(the neighborhood where the incident occurred) I saw him the night of the murder at IHOP and I remember telling my friend that this guy is crazy. He always gave off a bad energy.
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I have questions. Gerry was her nephew, her brother's son, correct? When Natalie's brother died, why did Natalie feel she had to adopt him? What happened to Gerry's own mother? I'm sure Gerry probably had problems before Natalie adopted him.
Hello Dr GRANDE, are you going to do another great analysis on Bryan Kohberger when more information comes out about him and when his trial starts, will you do another vid about him? cheers
Happy New Year Dr. Grande!! I wish you only good things in 2023😇🌵💕 Thank you for another great analysis of such a sad case. I hope Natalie’s family can find peace. 🙏 from Jean
I wonder what a 22 year-old loser was still doing in her home. I think she may have been stuck with him, not knowing how to get him to “launch” on his own, find a job, move out on his own and find a girl when all he wanted was to date her. She had no good options it seems to me. Terrible situation.
Dr. G, not only is your frequent upload highly addicting but you always find cases that are new to me and your added analysis is the cherry on top. Thank you so much (:
She should have probably distanced herself from him. In today's world, difficult people have few options for social opportunities and are willing to put up with the options they have. She certainly should have distanced herself from him after he stole that $20K of jewelry, that is a clear of sign that he cannot be trusted.
Thanks Dr Todd for summarising this tragic story, was heart breaking listening to details . No one deserves that after she tried to help him .I couldn't add anything else, goodness gracious me , It's a sad world if you cannot trust anyone. Keep up the good work. !!! Appreciate all your analysis.
As an adoptee I don’t really consider familiar adoptions adoptees. It’s so different. Do you think we should have different terms for different types of adoption Dr. Grande?
This case is like the majority of cases shown on this channel. The victim ignores warning signs, makes dumb decisions, and is eventually killed. The outcome is no surprise.
Dr. Grande, How do you expose yourself to or just do these deep dives into the minds of these depraved and dark people and not get dragged down into sadness and depression? How do you stay positive and just healthy mentally? Whenever I look at such cases, I just get the urge to cut myself off from all things negative and dark. Stories like these make me want to turn on "Leave it to Beaver" and "I Love Lucy" reruns that I used to watch in my carefree childhood. It makes just want to return to that time in my life where I just didn't know how evil this world could be. I was sheltered and happy. I know I just could not handle being a psychologist or homicide detective or any job that would expose me routinely to such horrors. It would just depress me too much. How does one do it? It probably would take a whole video to answer this question.
Natalie adopts her deceased brother's ten-year-old son in 2000.
Despite being a biological relation and a twenty-two age difference, Gerald demands that the relationship between him and his adoptive mother ( biological aunt /father's sister ) be something "more."
Inspite of Gerald's demonstrative criminal behavior, Natalie still grants him access to her inner sanctum. In that "granted access," she is beaten, raped and murdered. Shortly afterward, Gerald disposes his and her bloody clothes in a local dumpster, and her lifeless corpse in the woods three miles away!?
If ever there was a case that called out for a sentence of death, this is it!
But no. Something has gone very wrong with our criminal justice system long ago.
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One lesson from this is: don't bail someone you sent to jail! They're already trouble.
I'd say 90% of the time that's a super common sense, hard & fast rule- but...
Especially since it's poor/ low income ppl that get arrested most often, & are those most likely to have to post bail when they do..
there's some possible exceptions.
For instance, an abusive partner may need to the cops called on them if they're outta control, & it's better they stay in jail since they're dangerous-
But sadly,
Many women (& sometimes men too) are forced to stay physically abusive relationships to keep themselves from homelessness- especially if they're experiencing health issues/ disabled, battling addiction, or have kids w/ health issues, etc.
Someone (again, most often women but men too) may need to call 911 in a scary moment to protect themselves, but also be unable to leave. Not everyone has family or good friends they can count on to help in such a situation- if they did , they probably wouldn't stay with an abuser to begin with. They may decide to end the relationship after that,&make a plan to leave, but most ppl in the U.S. have only a few hundred $$ to spare; realistically many need time to save, or contact a DV shelter for assistance. They'd likely plan not to leave right away, afraid their abuser will come for them when once theyre out of jail- maybe if they spnt bail their partner out, a friend or rheir parent will, then they're angry & blame their victim. The victim may know that when an abused partner tries to leave the relationship is when they're most likely to be killed by their abuser. It may be safer to wait for a bed to become available at a DV shelter- which could be weeks or months. Or to save $ to be able to get farther away when they do leave.
Most abusers will call their victims to bail them out- & the victim knows what may happen if the abuser is left in jail, getting more angry...
or they may not be able to make rent w/ out the partner's help, & so needs to make sure the abuser gets out to be able to stay employed- especially if she will be filing for child support/ alimony. Lots of factors that could make getting someone you had to call the police on to save your self from harm or even possible death, but 80% of women forced to live on the street when homeless get raped. Stats for co-ed shelters are almost as bad. Often ppl that are especially vulnerable- either economically, emotionally, mentally, physically, etc, like women. or men in marginalized groups, can have no good options & figure it's safer to deal- at least temporarily- or until they can escape safely- w/ the Devil they know.
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There's a saying in Spanish that goes "Raise crows, and they'll peck your eyes out". This case is a perfect example of that.
Very true.
Adopt a chimp and get all your skin torn off by an ape. (Travis the chimp story).
Except they won’t-they’ll actually bring you gifts if you’re kind to them. Perhaps they would eat you if you died and they were hungry. Although I get your point, crows are incredibly intelligent animals who can form bonds with humans who care for them. -just saying.
@@The_Red_Pill__ Thanks Dr Doolittle, it’s just a saying, relax
The road to hell is paved with good intentions...cat-orange-whistling
What a horrible nephew. So disgusting of a person. I am glad they gave him a life sentence. I hope they never let him out what a creep to kill his aunt and adoptive mother. This story is really disturbing.
It's always horrible and disgusting when entitled men rape and kill women they have unrequited crushes on. The only thing that makes this case particularly heinous is the extra violation of trust. Natalie would have been cautious of a co-worker or neighbor who'd expressed such sentiments, and she definitely wouldn't have allowed them into her home, and then gone to sleep with them there. And she certainly wouldn't have dropped the criminal charges for theft for them.
@@astrinymris9953 Women kill men too lmao. He is a piece of garbage not an "entitled man" he is no man.
@@InLieuTube
The perpetrator is the son of the victims brother, and so the victim was the sister of murderers (deceased)father.
And hence the victim was NOT the perpetrator's cousin, she was his aunt on his fathers side (AND his adoptive mother).
Incest is so common that I believe it should be more completely addressed in public service announcement s (commercials), as well school starting no later than kindergarten. Twenty-five of some kindergarten classroom have children who have already been sexually assaulted
Twenty-five percent of children in some kindergarten classroom have already been sexually assaulted, usually by family, so some people think sex with a family member is not taboo.
Good on the neighbor for installing cameras!! They had a gut feeling about that POS!
It's good to be nice, kind and helpful. But sometimes it can cost you your life! May she rest in peace.
so true. Too many people take advantage of people with empathy
The road to hell is paved with good intentions...
This is why I'm NOT gonna do foster care. Im sure its an altruistic act, but it's NOT for me.
The blind faith that a criminally bad person can change is often a fatal one.
That's a repeating pattern here too.
That's a repeating pattern here too.
Pathological altruism.
Psychopaths do not change
It can be done with drugs with pedophiles (less than 5% recidivism). However, probably not certain psychopaths.
The story his defense attorney tried to sell is so ridiculous that it caused me second hand embarrassment.
Poor Natalie and her family!
Well I guess he had to spin some sort of story what a horrible crime
In these situations, i think the lawyers use copy and paste stories that they know juries wont believe. I would hope its their way of still trying to get him convicted while also doing their job.
Every defendant has the right to plead 'not guilty' regardless of the evidence against them. In cases where the evidence is overwhelming but the defendant still refuses to accept responsibility, then their lawyers tend to just make up preposterous explanations, because there really isn't anything else they can do.
@@gordongekko2781 Yeah.
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His defense team, needed a mental health evaluation.
How insulting to the court and the victim. Poor Natalie
No good deed goes unpunished. I grew up around criminal minded people. Best to get out early. They will bring you down with them.
I created a better saying than what you started with...
"Tis wise to do good deeds but be careful of who whom you do them for."
And the perp was such an ungrateful pile of manure.
@@SpukiTheLoveKitten75 all 👍..
@@josron6088 😁Yup! Thanks! Time to make this new saying a thing!
The intruder realized he "wasn't dressed for murder" so took Jerry's clothes. haha
I've had a troubled life that I've always fought to overcome. I've improved myself through hard work and self reflection. Through the years I've had a number of friends who also came from troubled families. My biggest mistake has been that I've believed that these people also truly want to get better. I put up with a lot of disappointment and lack of concern from these friends. I've found that my fear of loneliness blinded me to their persistent negativity and lack of concern for me.
The hardest lesson is that everyone, even the worst people, have some good in them. That still doesn't make them good people or good to be around.
You put that much better than Kanye did.
Yeah, we call them "frenemies", because some people will pose as, or act like friends, but would stab you in the back without any remorse. Psychopaths always take advantage of people's good nature. They see kindness as weakness and will take advantage of a good person and become parasites, or worse.
A hurricane has some good in it, doesn't mean I want to be around one and experience the good part.
Absolutely 100% xx
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It's cases like this that really do deserve the death penalty.
I don’t support the death penalty, not because I don’t believe certain people (like Jerry) deserve it, but because I don’t believe the state should have that much power. It’s that belief I cling to when I see cases like this.
@@BL-hw4mn so you should be happy to pay the taxes that support bad ppl like this ,MF.
@@mrazik131 Executions actually cost more than keeping them in jail for the rest of their natural lives
I often wonder why Christians who believe no matter the sin, that Christ will forgive the sinner if the sinner excepts Christ as their Savior. They also believe in the death penalty. Why would they want to send a murderer to Heaven sooner than absolutely necessary? I say let them rot in prison, and keep them healthy to think about what they have done.
Life is the punishment, that's why babies always cry when born.
@@BL-hw4mn I’m with you there, too much power and also it’s not a secret that there have been many wrongful convictions as well, including death row and even ppl that have been executed.
Not having the death penalty isn’t for Jerry in this case (while he is certain deserving…) but for those who I just mentioned especially
when I was young I naively believed that the intentions and actions you put into the world would automatically be understood and reciprocal but now I'm middle aged and cynical I realise that is just not true. I've got two wonderful daughters and I trust them with my whole heart but that's it, and I never assume the people around them are to be trusted either. I'm very watchful now and realise kindness can be a path to danger in itself. It's awful to realise that about the world but it is what it is. Poor Natalie RIP.
Agreed! Kindness attracts predators.
@@TheWraith7 So long as you aren’t pathologically attracting people with personality disorders. I refer to Ross Rosenberg who is a well known Psychotherapist. He wrote the Human Magnet Syndrome, that explains the dynamics between the co-dependent vs narcissist. The therapy he recommends is based upon training the co-dependent, to self-focus their kindness as a way of disengaging from repetition compulsion, where there is a tendency to attract predatory personalities. Unfortunately narcopaths choose easy targets and victims being kind, is attractive to their predatory nature.
Criminals have a strong attraction to trusting individuals. They have a need to take from them what they themselves don't have, innocence
"Tis wise to do good deeds but be careful of who whom you do them for." That's what I say. It's still good to be kind and altruistic but just be careful. It's not either / or.
@@TheWraith7 Exactly. We should never let stuff like this harden us and make us selfish jerks. The world needs kindness, charity and altruism and most people are generally okay to really good. The rub is to BE CAREFUL!
Never heard of this case but it's terribly sad 😔
Yes very disturbing
Even with the warning’s,how could she possibly think that would happen,it’s unthinkable!
“You are the best son a mother could have.” I wonder what her non-rapist non-murderer son thought about that!
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She didn’t care if she sent it to HIM… smh Denial. Must be awful for true Son. ❤ Jerry should have gotten Death Penalty!
He thought they were just empty words .people write empty words on cards and letter and text email all the time .
He thought it meant, I want you to rape and murder me.
"She must have very low standards"
Natalie was a kind hearted beautiful woman, so sorry this horrific crime was committed against her. How do these defence attorneys have no problem victim blaming? I'll never understand this. Thanks Dr Grande Happy New year to you and your family ❣️
It’s a job, they aren’t doing it for their own entertainment. Would it be better to present no defence and screw over the client?
@@SwitchTF2 I know that but as I said it's the victim blaming I have a problem with.. I'd rather be a prosecutor any day or even better not do law altogether
@@Linda72. I see what you mean. There must be ways of doing your job as a defense attorney without beeing a scambag yourself. However, I didnt thought they were victim blaming by suggesting she had consensual sex with Jerry, its more a narrative battle imo. I've seen real victim blaming cases, I just don't think that was the case necessarily.
Many defense attorneys are personality disordered themselves.
@@Linda72. oh, believe me theres ethical issues with being a prosecutor. The uncomfortable truth is, the world would be a very scary place without DEFENSE ATTORNEYS. Prosecutors, cops, etc they dont actually do what they do for the reasons you think. And prosecutors dont exist in this moral shield like people want to believe. Défense lawyers are not actually trying to get guilty people off. They protect people, all people, from having their rights violated. Prosecutors and juries, courts, convict innocent people everyday, all the time on good/strong evidence AND on bad/weak evidence. Our legal system was created to protect the accused because the true tyranny is a legal system where an accused person cant actually defend themselves. Our system is not perfect but it is the fairest system when compared to every other legal system. It is the ONLY legal system that recognizes the importance of doing everything to protect innocent people from being convicted. When ben Franklin said "its better 12 guilty men go free then one innocent person be hanged ", that is literally the founding principle of the American legal system. Legal justice does not mean what people think it does. And the rules are as they are to ensure EVERYONE can defend and explain themselves. This system has these rules, and its unique. No other legal system is innocent until proven guilty, the burden is on the prosecution to prove guilt. Every other system à defendant must prove innocence without the power, money, resources as the government. Prosecutors dont actually pursue justice for victims and their families. Every crime is considered a crime against society as a whole. Theres so much more to this but I wont keep going. Ill end with that its supposed to be difficult to convict people criminally. But its not that difficult in this country because of feelings like yours. Actual guilt and legal guilt are NOT the same thing. And lawyers arz taught this in law school. Its why lawyers always get disillusioned with the law after law school or after a couple years of practice. Prosecutors play up the gaurdians and fighters for justice because it serves them. But both sides actually really do that. The reason most lawyers can defend anyone accused of the worst crimes? Because they arent trying to get them off. They make sure that a persons right are not violated, that prosecutors and cops (the government by the way) follows the rules and prosecute people the right way. That if a person is convicted its beyond a reasonable doubt. Its very serious on both sides, but never underestimate how much is acting and à show and lawyers trying to charm and persuade with their intellect and charisma. Juries are not lawyers or educated on the law and atent actually supposed to and are not expected to make decisions based on law (though défense lawyers are forbidden to remind juries about this. To ensure that juries atleast use more reason than emotion but juries are NOT supposed to remove all emotion, just balance it with reason, while judges arent supposed to consider emotion at all). Also, the last thing, people would benefit from putting themselves in the accused persons shoes, as well as the victims. Every individual has just as much à chance at being accused of a crime as they are being a victim of crime. And even if someone is guilty, humans are capable of having compassion for the actor of a bad act, without taking any compassion away from the individual hurt by the act. Its another uncomfortable truth that human nature and psychology are very complex things and limiting anyone as "all bad" or "all good" is a simple thing. And just as every human has amazing potential to do good things, reason dictates that it also has to go the other way, and humans are capable of the worst in humanity and a lot of factors and TIME go into what every one of us is capable of. You know, if you read books by holocaust survivors, you would find that all of them, discovered very dark things about themselves after events beyond their control set up the circumstances that allowed them to discover it. There is a dark side to human nature and it lives in every one of us (im not saying that that doesn't mean there shouldn't be consequences or punishment). Anyway, sorry for the novel. Thanks for hearing me out if you read this far. I'm a law student, thr daughter of a lawyer, and my best friend is a deputy district attorney.
There are cases of adoptive parents and their young charges struggling to get along. While noble to adopt it can get complex. Sad case.
And the myth that all adoptive parents are saints.
Here she was his aunt that adopted him. Even if she was a horrible parent she probably didn't deserve to be assaulted sexually and murdered.
It's the same exact way with having your own biological children. It's so many kids & adults killing their parents I can barely keep count. This woman definitely did not deserve what this POS did too her. But you're own flesh and blood & could be the one to take your life not just adopted kids.
@Army Wife It's not the same as raising your own biological children. Adoptees don't know who they are and it can cause a separation disorder.
@@sr2291 my point is that your biological children could murder you just as an adopted childhood. You can't dictate or monitor what is going on inside of their head. Evil is evil biological or not
I appreciate your daily commitment to providing content. You rock, Doc.
I just had to reach out and hug you for that really sweet comment! I love nice people so much! Happy New Year, my friend ❤
These individuals that kill their caregivers enrage me, glad he got a full life sentence. Makes me wonder how his father died.
He already violated her trust when he stole from her. Unfortunately some of us are not taught boundaries. When someone steals from you, you have to make them earn your trust back not just hand it back freely. I mean I honestly think when someone steals from you, they should probably be removed from your life, but I understand why she would have a hard time completely giving up on her nephew. I can't believe how many people in this world still think having boundaries is being too much or being a bad person when they are the natural dynamic of relationships and how we protect ourselves emotionally. And unfortunately in this case physically. No one who steals both valuable and sentimental things from you should have access to your bedroom.
I simply hate the defence team for saying the sex was consensual, no f***ing way it was. Blaming the victim and portraying women as these super voloptuous beings, it is so offensive to her, it's disgrace. If it was consensual why would he killed her? Some lawyers would do anything to win the case, it's shameful. The defence was nonsensical and beyond stupid.
Good morning, Dr. Grande!
No good deed goes unpunished, especially where a psycho with a mother fixation is concerned.
And thank heavens for the vultures, who found her body, and the neighbor's security cameras, which provided important facts regarding the timeline of the crime, as well as the other security cameras that caught images of Natalie and her vehicle.
"No good deed goes unpunished" is wrong. It should be "Tis wise to do good deeds but be careful of who whom you do them for."
I’d be curious to know how these defense lawyers sleep after having to concoct such a defense when they had to have known this guy was nothing but guilty.
This was a really terrible story to hear. That poor woman deserved so much better. The video however was really good, as always!
What a jerk. I can’t imagine what her actual children felt.
They probably considered murdering him. So much trauma.
This is genuinely heartbreaking! I hate that good people who want to see the good in others and try to help them get hurt so often. I’ve learned the hard way that you cannot blindly trust anyone! I still try to help others, as long as what I’m doing doesn’t put myself or my children in a position to be hurt. It’s been a very painful realization, but I’m glad I even had the chance to see the error of my ways and change. Natalie did not. 💔
You know, it bothers me when a criminal defense includes a person's troubled childhood. I realize that growing up in a broken and abusive home could make a person feel hopeless. It could also make a person think "I deserve better" and go on to live a productive life.
How do you defend a person that grew up in a loving two-parent home, never did without basic needs, was fully loved by both parents and brothers, did well in school; but grew up to be a total loser? Stole from their parents, stole from their brothers, stole from their niece and nephew, stole from their grand-niece's birthday, physically abused their mother, hasn't worked in 30 years, been arrested more times than one could count; and at 56 years old shows no signs of changing. The only thing they haven't done is kill someone. If I saw Dr Grande one day make a video about her murdering someone, I wouldn't be shocked.
I am talking about my sister. None of what I listed above is an exaggeration. We grew up in a very privileged home. I don't mean privileged as in money, my Dad was merely a laborer at a concrete plant. But my folks devoted their lives to taking care of us kids. I can't think of any part of our childhood that was bad. My brother and I have done well as a result. But I don't know what the heck happened with our sister. You would almost think she grew up in the Manson family.
So when I hear or read that a person's behavior is a result of a bad childhood, I think it's hogwash. People from a good childhood can turn out just as diabolical.
I agree. I relate.
Is your sister the oldest sibling by any chance?
Completely agree.. I had To go zero contact with my disgusting sister who is very unstable and vicious.
She sounds like she has a drug addiction and steals from whomever to support her habit.
@@brenda726 she is the youngest. All of us are close in age; I am the middle child (which is usually the black sheep) and she is 1 1/2 years younger than me.
What a terrible loss for her children and society. Just heartbreaking. 🙏
"He wasn't dressed for murder." I love your commentary.
Her own faith in human decency blinded her to that monster's complete lack of it.
I wonder how Natalie’s other son is. How tragic!
Natalie is both the aunt and adoptive mother to Gerald Lopes?
@@jcpenny3606 Yes, and she had two biological children, a daughter and a son.
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Her brother died so she adopted his 10 yr old son. Its such a sad story.
My grandmother lived to be 94 and she always said “Honey if you can’t have children, don’t adopt”. I know that’s sad but I truly believe some have traits in their DNA to commit crimes.
@@bbe3034 Great advise and honestly it's true. Too many kids that are up for adoption are completely messed up ( not saying it's their fault most of the times) and some of them won't ever recover even if they receive therapy for life. Nikolas Cruz is one of those examples. He was a complete mess since he was born due to his mother's alcohol and drug's use during the pregnancy and he did receive therapy since he was a kid and even with all of the resources that were dedicated to help him with his mental health he still ended up being a piece of shit that did terrible things. So yeah, adoptions are very risky. I will never understand why people would go through something as awful as that voluntarily. If their parents/family didn't want to take care of those kids is most likely because of a good reason.
Good ppl can not see dangerous depth of evil.Thank you Dr.Grande for great analysis of this sad case.
My grandmother used to say if you cook the mother the children will eat but if you cook the children the mother won't eat. She used this to mean that children don't have the same feelings for their parents as parents do for their children. If your child is acting off don't think being their parent will save you.
Parental denial is one of the strongest drugs in the world. Natalie had let pure evil into her home and ignored all the crystal clear signs that Jeremy was a dangerous and violent criminal.
Ok you had me 😂 out loud at this one. The intruder decided to kill for no reason & he wasn’t stealing anything. Your dry humour got me this time 😅
What a nasty guy, that smirk says it all. How sad she kept faith, had any relation with him. Yeah the intruder ruse again😑Good analysis again. Thanks Dr G😊🧡🤎
*Tamil Nadu | Body of a 34-year-old woman named Subashree, who went missing in Coimbatore, was recovered from a well yesterday. Her husband filed a missing complaint on Dec 19 after he did not find her at Isha Yoga Centre( Jaggi Vasudev/Sadguru's yoga centre) where she had come to attend yoga class* CC tv footage was released where the woman is running/escaping barefoot, in her yoga clothes with no bag or anything with her. Please do a video of this case to bring about awareness
A morose and deeply disturbing case. I've led a sheltered life and am thankful to have never been exposed to something so horrible. God bless Natalie.
Reactive attachment disorder?? This topic needs to be discussed and considered in way more cases.
Psychopathy.
Adoption can cause this.
From Mayo Clinic
Overview
Reactive attachment disorder is a rare but serious condition in which an infant or young child doesn't establish healthy attachments with parents or caregivers. Reactive attachment disorder may develop if the child's basic needs for comfort, affection and nurturing aren't met and loving, caring, stable attachments with others are not established.
When you need to live with your aunt? Give me a break.
Dr Grande, you look so happy and healthy lately! You look youthful, like you are enjoying your life! That makes me feel good 🤗
This year with Dr Grande ‘s vids … already slayin
For many of us, it is unthinkable that a young man would sexually assault his aunt! It’s tough to take this. Natalie should have been safe with Jerry. She adopted him out of compassion. Really sad case. Ridiculous defense arguments!
I don't know who disgust me more in this case Jerry or his attorney. Jerry, was an ungrateful POC. I, hope everyday of his prison sentence is hard.
Your voice is so soothing and calming ❤
Great analysis! She was very naive in this situation. Since she had other children she really needed to have her antenna up. I hope this analysis helps someone out there🙏
Gee, very tragic case! I hadn't heard this one before. Very creepy that he would think she should have romantic and/or sexual feelings toward him! Thanks!!! 🌚🌚🌚
I can't believe she let him stay after he admitted that to her. She needed to make sure he was out the house that day. Clearly he was sick in the head to even want to date his Aunt.
@@bellaapple2166 they were first cousins
What an absolutely bizarre case.
A huge thank you to the neighbor.
Poor Natalie.
Good evening, Doctor Grande and the Grande community. ❤ ☺
Hello friend ❤️
@@charliechurch5004 Hello and Happy New Year
This channel is so tranquil and well done. Thanks Doc!
What happened here is why I’ve never considered fostering or adoption…. U never know what you are getting and I believe genetics plays a part
"Perhaps they used magical powers" This is the kind of science based analysis that I am here for. People often forget the role of magical powers in true crimes.
Lmaoooo.....that's a good one 👍
Thank you Dr. Grande for your great coverage as usual. This is such a horrifying case.
Great seeing you here
I’m heartbroken listening to these events
Sounds like Natalie genuinely cared for her adopted son. So sad that he took advantage of her kindness and murdered her.
Happy new year Dr Grande🎉🎉I haven’t heard this one yet. This guy is sick.
No, evil people are evil, not sick.
I went to high school with him… it’s crazy to think he would do something like this. Or people that exist that do such Evil. I knew his siblings as well.
“No good deed will go unpunished.” How very sad.
What you will never see in adoption brochures are that 70% of adoptions fail. The common theme is "abandonment". I have seen two successful adoptions. All the rest have been failures, some disastrous as above, to include murder, prison, theft, addiction, and permanent estrangement. One dear couple I know adopted fraternal twins, five years old, from a third world country. It was beyond bad. The twins, now 9, would threaten their older siblings with murder. The neighbor children were not allowed to play with the kids. At GREAT expense, they found separate facilities on both sides of the country until they are 18. The fear is that they will return to avenge all of this on them or their children. Do you remember the woman that was excoriated by the press for dumping her recent Russian adoptee on the Moscow tarmac? Let's just say it was not pleasant to continue have that child in her home.
Most of these comments are about Dr. Grande than the story.
Love your timeline for uploading. I fall asleep every night with my phone on my forehead to the new grande drop
Even with his soothing calm voice, I cannot fall asleep listening to Dr. Grande. I am always alert to listen to the evaluation. I love listening to the stories. Can't fall asleep without hearing the end.
@@ninabrown3044 I will admit I’ve fallen asleep before finishing a grande video, but that doesn’t mean I don’t rewatch it the next morning while I make breakfast
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Exceptional comment.. 😴
I often loop a playlist of Dr. Grande to a good nights sleep.. 💤
@@sambennett7606 I just hope you’re not serious about putting your phone on your forehead! 😊
Well, that is absolutely sickening…
"He drew the line at leaving a messy house behind" 🤣🤣🤣 Dr G be cutting up 🤣
No good deed ever goes unpunished.
I cannot understand ignoring such blatent signs of danger & aggression. I wonder how her actual children felt being around him.
This is such a disturbing case. Poor Natalie; she was so generous to take on this responsibility. I’m sure there were plenty detrimental affects on her own children before the murder. Her poor children.
Give that neighbor across from Natalie's house the good neighbor award of $1000.
I think they should award any one that have contributed to the arrest of the perp. Maybe more will come forth to help.
This story is truly disturbing,
Fascinating analysis. Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤
Dr G - I value 3 traits in a person above all else: 1. Intelligence 2. Humor 3. Authenticity .. you appear to cover all those bases, and i respect you very much.... and if you don't mind, please put in a good word for me with the divine psychology powers that be, as this month I am heading to inpatient tx for the many substances I've allowed to devour my life. I look forward to catching up on your content when I get back, hopefully a new person
I’m praying for you! You can do this! And your body will heal and be strong for you and help you live a life full of meaning and free from the chains of addiction.
You’ve survived harder things, I know it, you’re going to get through this stronger, better and more beautiful than ever. God bless you on your journey in this plane of existence ❤
More power to you. You are the master of your domain. It's up to you. Have faith in yourself too.
Your work rate is second to none. I continue to love your work. Thank you Dr Grande
She didn't just bring him into her home she adopted him and gave him unwavering love and support and he repays her with a horrible death. They better not ever let him out, he is heartless and evil!
Agreed. He ain't right.
I have heard first hand of adoptive parents who were assaulted by their adopted child. Can you review the data available on violent crimes against adoptive parents? A friend states that 50% of children in inpatient psychiatric care, are children who were adopted.What are the statistics for psychiatric hospitalizations due to serious behaviors of adoptive children? Do adoption agencies "gaslight" couples who long to have a family, about how high risk it is ( risking your life...) to adopt a child of unknown background?
I went to high school with this guy and he even lived in my neighborhood.(the neighborhood where the incident occurred)
I saw him the night of the murder at IHOP and I remember telling my friend that this guy is crazy.
He always gave off a bad energy.
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No good deed goes unpunished
What a tragic case! Natalie sounded like such a beautiful person.
Another great video, Dr. Grande!
This is truly a Family Tragedy, and I am so sorry for the heartbreak.
I have questions. Gerry was her nephew, her brother's son, correct? When Natalie's brother died, why did Natalie feel she had to adopt him? What happened to Gerry's own mother? I'm sure Gerry probably had problems before Natalie adopted him.
Hello Dr GRANDE, are you going to do another great analysis on Bryan Kohberger when more information comes out about him and when his trial starts, will you do another vid about him? cheers
Happy New Year Dr. Grande!! I wish you only good things in 2023😇🌵💕 Thank you for another great analysis of such a sad case. I hope Natalie’s family can find peace. 🙏 from Jean
I was captivated by your telling of this horrible crime. Thank you for your analysis on this disturbing case.
Wow, that's messed up, it was his mother/aunt
😳 right?!?
I wonder what a 22 year-old loser was still doing in her home. I think she may have been stuck with him, not knowing how to get him to “launch” on his own, find a job, move out on his own and find a girl when all he wanted was to date her. She had no good options it seems to me. Terrible situation.
Was actually his first cousin 🤮
Doc should have been a prosecutor. The breakdown of the defense’s case was so deadpan I couldn’t help but laugh at their theory of the crime. 😂
Dr. G, not only is your frequent upload highly addicting but you always find cases that are new to me and your added analysis is the cherry on top. Thank you so much (:
Interesting. Thank you Dr greetings from South Africa 👍🎊👍🎊
She should have probably distanced herself from him.
In today's world, difficult people have few options for social opportunities and are willing to put up with the options they have.
She certainly should have distanced herself from him after he stole that $20K of jewelry, that is a clear of sign that he cannot be trusted.
Thanks Dr Todd for summarising this tragic story, was heart breaking listening to details . No one deserves that after she tried to help him .I couldn't add anything else, goodness gracious me ,
It's a sad world if you cannot trust anyone. Keep up the good work. !!! Appreciate all your analysis.
Oh yeah
It’s time for G!
I really like the alternative defense theory. It's so unnecessarily complicated and incredibly unbelievable that it must be true!
Your profile pic looks like Zach de la rocha lol.. I guess they're kinda the same haha
@@fakeshemp9599 Weird, but I'll give it a thumbs up for posterity.
Hello 👋 good Dr. Grande . Have a great night 🌙
Dr. Grande... You gave such a respectful, yet informative summary & opinion on this heart-breaking tragedy. 👍💜🌵
As an adoptee I don’t really consider familiar adoptions adoptees. It’s so different. Do you think we should have different terms for different types of adoption Dr. Grande?
Horrific. By the time these issues came to light, she was trapped. No good deed…
Sad case, great analysis.Thank you for the analysis dr.Grande 👍
Brilliant observations, as always.
This case is like the majority of cases shown on this channel. The victim ignores warning signs, makes dumb decisions, and is eventually killed. The outcome is no surprise.
Excelent work as always❣️
Dr. Grande, How do you expose yourself to or just do these deep dives into the minds of these depraved and dark people and not get dragged down into sadness and depression? How do you stay positive and just healthy mentally? Whenever I look at such cases, I just get the urge to cut myself off from all things negative and dark. Stories like these make me want to turn on "Leave it to Beaver" and "I Love Lucy" reruns that I used to watch in my carefree childhood. It makes just want to return to that time in my life where I just didn't know how evil this world could be. I was sheltered and happy. I know I just could not handle being a psychologist or homicide detective or any job that would expose me routinely to such horrors. It would just depress me too much. How does one do it? It probably would take a whole video to answer this question.