If the purchase price is not huge this would be a great project...can't wait for part 2 :) @1:12:21 Umm...is that thing actually on fire right there? Yup...that's a fire! I did notice some sparks popping in the same area the fire started while cranking. @1:24:25 Eviction day!!
I think so too Mike! It's definitely going to need some work, but I don't think there's been a machine that I've drug home that didn't? Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
You know Adam, that makes sense... I'll have to check the dip stick to see if the oil level is getting more full just by sitting, or only when it runs... it could also be a crack in the head somewhere, because the fuel flows through it up into the valve cover and over to each injector.... I appreciate the thought, and the support, it means a lot!
@ respect! I seem to have suffered this way since childhood , if see a rusty stripped bolt I dig it outta the ground hold it up to the sky , close one eye and shout VINCENT MOTORCYCLE! 1954 . 😎I ended up with 54 two wheelers 47-2008, a heap of mostly ex military landrover s and 42 tonnes of bigger military stuff ( the tanks have gone ) I spend all my money on batteries and oil changes🌞like the channel keep em coming .this digger looks to be really well built and little abuse.great score and the learning journey is mostly fun.
In the 70's I had a 6-73 Detroit that I had rebuilt. They reused the old fuel crossover pipes. The engine flooded out with fuel in the oil pan before I made it home with the truck. Check ALL the ends of the cross over pipes for small cracks at the flares. I enjoy watching you trouble shoot and digging in deep to fix issues. I hope you do go on with this one!
I was wondering about the other half of that broken metal collar. Is that still in the clutch housing area? Can you stick a flexible magnet in the drain hole? Nice work so far, you fixed a bunch of stuff. Don't know how this can get on a trailer on its own.
In frame overhaul kits are around for $1,200 to $1,600 depending on crank seals which you may have to buy separately. You can overhaul that old Insley engine and still have something if you want to so I wouldn't let the naysayers affect your judgment on whether it's worth doing as it was never a pipeline machine to begin with when it was new. Having a self propelled yard crane around for periodic use is worth a lot.
Me too! When I walked up to it, the owner told it would never run... he had MULTIPLE diesel mechanics tell him it junk and should be scrapped, so when I freed up the engine it was AWESOME! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
One good thing about the diesel in the oil is that diesel being a detergent the inside of the engine should be very clean, compared to if it had water in it. As to the smoke problem, Detroit's are loud and its hard to hear if it is running on al cylinders, maybe one is not firing and hence all the smoke/atomized diesel if its diesel smelling.
Great vlog, interesting to follow your troubleshooting process. This machine has good bones for its age but it depends on how much you want to outlay to get it right and how much return it will give you when finished. I’m sure, whichever way you go, it will be the right del for you. Well done.
If you look at this slightly differently....they should be paying you to remove it and get rid of their problems....its going to take a lot of work and money to get this to where you can work on it and then a pot of cash and time to put it right. If you are willing to invest like that, there will be many other older machines that don't have so many issues that are easier to move. I'd walk away unless they pay you to get ri of it.
Oh I've had that same thought, and I completely agree... this is a project that will cost quite a bit of time and money, but excavators hold their value, and are ALWAYS useful in working order... I made a heck of a deal based on the fact that it WILL cost them a ton to get rid of it! Plus I get to rescue a machine that is pretty uncommon, and 100% OVERBUILT in AMERICA with not a single computer and almost NO electronics on it! With a little work this machine will out last me, and my children with very little maintenance... Plus, I like saving these odd ducks! I totally agree with EVERYTHING you said, and had those exact thoughts many times myself, we'll just have to see where it goes! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
Do you watch ol2stroker? If you needed any questions about 2-stroke Detroit engines, he’s your man. I’m sure he’d give you advice. You prolly have this sorted by now but just trying to help, brother.
Governor needs to pick up load when hydraulic lever activated. Rings get stuck on them cause smoke poor power . Those 2stroke GMC Detroit need to rev to do anything. Low torque at low speed. I had a 1971 Dynahoe with 471 Detroit.. still deaf today . Most kids today run new quiet fast machines have no idea how bad these old clunkers where to run all day ... Lol😂 Put a 4bt Cummins in it .
Yeah I figured out the governor in part 2, and you are correct on that... it needs to be running to work! I agree on the rings, but I'm pretty sure cylinder no. 3 is dead or at least hurt, if you look at 21:47 in the video, you can see the top piston ring is missing and the liner is damaged, so I am probably running on only 3 cylinders... I'd bet that's what it was parked for over 25+ years ago. These SCREAMIN Jimmy's are definitely SUPER Loud, but their sound is iconic... I'm definitely going to need to do some engine work, and the engine will have to come out to do that, so we'll just have to see where that takes me from there.
Ol2Stroker lives, eats and breathes Detroit Diesels. Reach out, maybe he can help. Awesome video. The only thing that would make it better is if you rode up on a horse with all your tools in saddle bags.
If I remember correctly Funk Driveline (clutches) was purchased outright by John Deere back in the 90's. Keep working on the old girl, it makes for great video.
Very nice machine, but taking on such a mammoth task like this can start the add up quick financially and even with a very low purchase price it can soon get out of hand, especially when these really big and more modern machines don't fetch too much at auction, it starts to make more sense to get some thing like that. Look at what Diesel Creek has just got himself for 20k
Yeah i get that completely, but I am more interested in saving machines that are less known, and much less common these days! Plus I don't need to be spending 20k for an excavator right now... You're right, the cost to repair this machine will add up, but I have evaluated this machine the best i can... The major things I'll need to do at this point are an engine rebuild, rebuild the hydraulic cylinders, and replace some hydraulic lines, and i know that's not it, and is a mountain of work, but I enjoy rescuing these odd ducks! Maybe I'll be able to justify spending 20k on a machine at some point, but I'm not there yet!
You could have a real gem there, or adversely a very deep pit. Whatever, we don't come to watch you fail and that is why your channel is so engrossing. Thanks.
Hey hit up Scrappy Industries he's got a truck and trailer that can haul that thing so he'll take it to your house for you that way you can just work on it at home
Before I found this one, I didn't know Insley made Excavators this "NEW"... I only knew they made the old dragline cranes and similar equipment! It's DEFINITELY a well built machine, and this one needs some major attention, but it definitely looks to be salvageable! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
Before you transport that I would figure out exactly why that counterweight is leaning. It looks like it's attached with two big bolts and if one is loose or the threads are rusted out, the whole thing could fall off from being bounced around while on the road.
I watch every video of yours with admiration how you get things working that others have given up on. With the passion and dedication how you take things to the test. I think it's a shame I don't live in the US otherwise I might do the same as you, in the EU this is impossible due to rules over rules. Keep it up my friend.
I appreciate that my friend! I really do enjoy getting to do this, and I'm glad you enjoy coming along for the journey as I save these old forgotten machines! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
Seeing how the rest of the machine was kept, and looking at the other things on the property, i doubt it, but I guess you never know! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
OHH i got a heck of a deal, and they were ecstatic to have it gone... no one else was going to spend the time to get it running, he couldn't find anyone, and he had been looking for QUITE some time... On the OTHER hand, I bought a pile of work and it needs a bit of an investment, but at this point I can scrap it for more that i spent buying it, getting it running, and hauling it home, so i'll let you be the judge...lol! Thanks for watching Walter, I truly appreciate the support!
This machine going make good content for someone that doesn't make videos it wouldn't be financially good decision to buy it Cummins bt4 would be easy to find unless you could find used detroit thats in good condition the way they have it built going make it easy to adapt another power unit to it
I think it's only running on 3 cylinders, If you look at 21:47 in the video you can see cylinder 3 is missing the top ring and the liner has some damage... so I agree COMPLETELY Mike!
I met Mr Insley when I was young, and he was in his nineties. He taught me how to play checkers.
If the purchase price is not huge this would be a great project...can't wait for part 2 :)
@1:12:21 Umm...is that thing actually on fire right there? Yup...that's a fire! I did notice some sparks popping in the same area the fire started while cranking.
@1:24:25 Eviction day!!
And don't forget you got a guy named Scrappy Industries there in Pennsylvania and then you also have diesel Creek
Its weird that the cab is on the right side of the boom instead of the left, like on modern excavators! Great video!
Yeah that is a bit weird, and i had a few times it threw me off, but I'll get used to it!
That is actually a really nice machine. I am glad you found it.
I think so too Mike! It's definitely going to need some work, but I don't think there's been a machine that I've drug home that didn't? Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
What a great looking machine love your videos bro watching from Trinidad and Tobago 🇹🇹 (Caribbean) keep up your great work 😎👍
Fuel is getting in from the no. 3 cylinder being dead. It's not burning it
You know Adam, that makes sense... I'll have to check the dip stick to see if the oil level is getting more full just by sitting, or only when it runs... it could also be a crack in the head somewhere, because the fuel flows through it up into the valve cover and over to each injector.... I appreciate the thought, and the support, it means a lot!
@SalvageWorkshop yes sir, thanks for all you do!
Bit of me ! The guy goes to look over a digger and spots the hydropak, side projects rock my world too bro !
Yeah when I see something shinny, or actually rusty, I can be easily side tracked! LOL.... Thanks for watching, I appreciate the support!
@ respect! I seem to have suffered this way since childhood , if see a rusty stripped bolt I dig it outta the ground hold it up to the sky , close one eye and shout VINCENT MOTORCYCLE! 1954 . 😎I ended up with 54 two wheelers 47-2008, a heap of mostly ex military landrover s and 42 tonnes of bigger military stuff ( the tanks have gone ) I spend all my money on batteries and oil changes🌞like the channel keep em coming .this digger looks to be really well built and little abuse.great score and the learning journey is mostly fun.
It sure makes me feel good when you even get these machines partly running. Thanks for the good times.
In the 70's I had a 6-73 Detroit that I had rebuilt. They reused the old fuel crossover pipes. The engine flooded out with fuel in the oil pan before I made it home with the truck. Check ALL the ends of the cross over pipes for small cracks at the flares. I enjoy watching you trouble shoot and digging in deep to fix issues. I hope you do go on with this one!
I was wondering about the other half of that broken metal collar. Is that still in the clutch housing area? Can you stick a flexible magnet in the drain hole? Nice work so far, you fixed a bunch of stuff. Don't know how this can get on a trailer on its own.
Like there's any other outcome from "I don't have to buy this machine" than this machine coming home with you :)
I KNOWWWWW.... The thought still crossed my mind more times than I could count!
Looking forward to part #2.
AWESOME! It'll be out soon!
I'm ready for part two. Great video.
In frame overhaul kits are around for $1,200 to $1,600 depending on crank seals which you may have to buy separately. You can overhaul that old Insley engine and still have something if you want to so I wouldn't let the naysayers affect your judgment on whether it's worth doing as it was never a pipeline machine to begin with when it was new. Having a self propelled yard crane around for periodic use is worth a lot.
Got so happy when the engine turned over
Me too! When I walked up to it, the owner told it would never run... he had MULTIPLE diesel mechanics tell him it junk and should be scrapped, so when I freed up the engine it was AWESOME! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
Maybe not good but the exhaust flamethrower option looks cool 😂
One good thing about the diesel in the oil is that diesel being a detergent the inside of the engine should be very clean, compared to if it had water in it. As to the smoke problem, Detroit's are loud and its hard to hear if it is running on al cylinders, maybe one is not firing and hence all the smoke/atomized diesel if its diesel smelling.
Great vlog, interesting to follow your troubleshooting process. This machine has good bones for its age but it depends on how much you want to outlay to get it right and how much return it will give you when finished. I’m sure, whichever way you go, it will be the right del for you. Well done.
If you look at this slightly differently....they should be paying you to remove it and get rid of their problems....its going to take a lot of work and money to get this to where you can work on it and then a pot of cash and time to put it right. If you are willing to invest like that, there will be many other older machines that don't have so many issues that are easier to move. I'd walk away unless they pay you to get ri of it.
Oh I've had that same thought, and I completely agree... this is a project that will cost quite a bit of time and money, but excavators hold their value, and are ALWAYS useful in working order... I made a heck of a deal based on the fact that it WILL cost them a ton to get rid of it! Plus I get to rescue a machine that is pretty uncommon, and 100% OVERBUILT in AMERICA with not a single computer and almost NO electronics on it! With a little work this machine will out last me, and my children with very little maintenance... Plus, I like saving these odd ducks! I totally agree with EVERYTHING you said, and had those exact thoughts many times myself, we'll just have to see where it goes! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
Do you watch ol2stroker? If you needed any questions about 2-stroke Detroit engines, he’s your man. I’m sure he’d give you advice. You prolly have this sorted by now but just trying to help, brother.
OMG! Over 2 hrs of Salvage Workshop Goodness. 👍👍
LOL... Glad you enjoy the longer content! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
Governor needs to pick up load when hydraulic lever activated.
Rings get stuck on them cause smoke poor power .
Those 2stroke GMC Detroit need to rev to do anything.
Low torque at low speed.
I had a 1971 Dynahoe with 471 Detroit.. still deaf today .
Most kids today run new quiet fast machines have no idea how bad these old clunkers where to run all day ...
Lol😂
Put a 4bt Cummins in it .
Yeah I figured out the governor in part 2, and you are correct on that... it needs to be running to work!
I agree on the rings, but I'm pretty sure cylinder no. 3 is dead or at least hurt, if you look at 21:47 in the video, you can see the top piston ring is missing and the liner is damaged, so I am probably running on only 3 cylinders... I'd bet that's what it was parked for over 25+ years ago.
These SCREAMIN Jimmy's are definitely SUPER Loud, but their sound is iconic... I'm definitely going to need to do some engine work, and the engine will have to come out to do that, so we'll just have to see where that takes me from there.
Ol2Stroker lives, eats and breathes Detroit Diesels. Reach out, maybe he can help. Awesome video. The only thing that would make it better is if you rode up on a horse with all your tools in saddle bags.
THIS
If I remember correctly Funk Driveline (clutches) was purchased outright by John Deere back in the 90's. Keep working on the old girl, it makes for great video.
Thanks!
Is that a screaming Detroit I hear? Best way to convert diesel fuel into noise!
LOL.. Yeah it DEFINITELY makes an iconic NOISE!
Very nice machine, but taking on such a mammoth task like this can start the add up quick financially and even with a very low purchase price it can soon get out of hand, especially when these really big and more modern machines don't fetch too much at auction, it starts to make more sense to get some thing like that. Look at what Diesel Creek has just got himself for 20k
Yeah i get that completely, but I am more interested in saving machines that are less known, and much less common these days! Plus I don't need to be spending 20k for an excavator right now... You're right, the cost to repair this machine will add up, but I have evaluated this machine the best i can... The major things I'll need to do at this point are an engine rebuild, rebuild the hydraulic cylinders, and replace some hydraulic lines, and i know that's not it, and is a mountain of work, but I enjoy rescuing these odd ducks! Maybe I'll be able to justify spending 20k on a machine at some point, but I'm not there yet!
You could have a real gem there, or adversely a very deep pit. Whatever, we don't come to watch you fail and that is why your channel is so engrossing. Thanks.
Excellent video as usual.
thank you
Hey hit up Scrappy Industries he's got a truck and trailer that can haul that thing so he'll take it to your house for you that way you can just work on it at home
You truly amaze me. Keep up the great work. In the end you be happy. Thank you for sharing 👌 😊
Been looking for an insley for a while hope it's salvageable
Before I found this one, I didn't know Insley made Excavators this "NEW"... I only knew they made the old dragline cranes and similar equipment! It's DEFINITELY a well built machine, and this one needs some major attention, but it definitely looks to be salvageable! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
Definitely some good bones and not rotted everywhere. If you can make money with it, it should pay for its repairs quickly.
Sounds like three are firing and a lot of blow by, keep us posted.
that hand clutch is there so eng does not have to start against hyd resistance during cold weather
Bravo!
Get it to your shop and tear in to it 😊
Explosive eviction from exhaust.
nice
Before you transport that I would figure out exactly why that counterweight is leaning. It looks like it's attached with two big bolts and if one is loose or the threads are rusted out, the whole thing could fall off from being bounced around while on the road.
I watch every video of yours with admiration how you get things working that others have given up on. With the passion and dedication how you take things to the test. I think it's a shame I don't live in the US otherwise I might do the same as you, in the EU this is impossible due to rules over rules. Keep it up my friend.
I appreciate that my friend! I really do enjoy getting to do this, and I'm glad you enjoy coming along for the journey as I save these old forgotten machines! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
Is it possible that the thin overfull oil was some sort of intentional winterizing to mothball the machine?
Seeing how the rest of the machine was kept, and looking at the other things on the property, i doubt it, but I guess you never know! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
I hope you got a good deal on that excavator considering the damage from neglect.
OHH i got a heck of a deal, and they were ecstatic to have it gone... no one else was going to spend the time to get it running, he couldn't find anyone, and he had been looking for QUITE some time... On the OTHER hand, I bought a pile of work and it needs a bit of an investment, but at this point I can scrap it for more that i spent buying it, getting it running, and hauling it home, so i'll let you be the judge...lol! Thanks for watching Walter, I truly appreciate the support!
@@SalvageWorkshopI’d keep it if it doesn’t need too much work
Never say never.
This machine going make good content for someone that doesn't make videos it wouldn't be financially good decision to buy it Cummins bt4 would be easy to find unless you could find used detroit thats in good condition the way they have it built going make it easy to adapt another power unit to it
Yes!!
Good job! Always great content!
Grate video
Go for it bud!
Instead of using an acre of pig mats, you could use a small kid’s swimming pool
😃😃😃
Love the long videos
I appreciate that Brandon! Thanks for watching, I truly appreciate the support!
That does not sound like all 4 cylinders.
I think it's only running on 3 cylinders, If you look at 21:47 in the video you can see cylinder 3 is missing the top ring and the liner has some damage... so I agree COMPLETELY Mike!
would pay for that its always going to cost more than its worth. take it for free or leave it
Wow great job there man 😂😂😂
Looks in very good condition really
Injectors ultra sonic em
The top end looks OK really
The flames NOT so good
that liner is broken
You need to build yourself an oil centrifuge to clean the oil and fuel.
Running the engine without coolant no bueno
BTW, how's "Old Red"?!
Some cylinder is not firing. Looks like leaking exhaust valve
That engine is toast! Time to walk away from that one
You have a dead hole in that engine
This was good but it was to long .
DONT BUY IT !!!
Bad injector
Love itttt
First maybe?!
Just scrap it, way too many of these videos. Do something original.