Bernie Sanders + Noam Chomsky: Deciphering Foreign Policy Jargon part 1/2

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  • @JCVdude
    @JCVdude 9 років тому +310

    Chomsky and Sanders from 1985 - true visionaries

    • @georgerickard5509
      @georgerickard5509 9 років тому +45

      JCVdude Two great guys. Although the tragic truth is that they aren't really visionaries. Many of their liberal views are not new ones, but ones that have vanished from the political landscape in the states.

    • @TheNeilDarby
      @TheNeilDarby 8 років тому

      +JCVdude
      See ya on the Kieser Report comments!

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому

      Bernie is a sell-out - a sheeple-herder that never intended to win. He was a gatekeeper for Hillary because she is AIPAC-beloved and he is an Israel-firster. He threw his supporters under the bus as they told him in real time that the nomination was being stolen. The con was set up even before the race started as alluded to in a Podesta email. Bernie pushes Russiagate and admits he’s a Zionist. He supported the same candidate as Dick Cheney endorsed.
      Vote Third Party (REAL third parties, not the Bernie Sanders' kind).

    • @CarlSaganHimself
      @CarlSaganHimself 4 роки тому

      @@dpersonal4187 Good lord man. Let's hope you're in no positions of influence.

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 4 роки тому

      @@CarlSaganHimself So you prefer people of influence who sell us out to a certain ruthless foreign power. Beautiful.

  • @mgproaps
    @mgproaps 9 років тому +129

    "History isn't physics... not because physicists are such great people, but in science you usually can't blatently lie and get away with it." Gold =)

    • @reforest4fertility
      @reforest4fertility 5 років тому +1

      In science you can’t get away with lying? Well may be in real non sell-out science. We suffer from BS in science daily. Maybe it’s what comes of the science once discovered and published.

    • @user-gn5wv2lx5t
      @user-gn5wv2lx5t 5 років тому +5

      @@reforest4fertility The line is not about "science" its about "physics", which of all the sciences is probably the hardest to lie in.

    • @reforest4fertility
      @reforest4fertility 5 років тому +1

      @@user-gn5wv2lx5t Yes. The main thing is Bernie promises to free edu. That will bring immeasurable benefits all around.

    • @CarlSaganHimself
      @CarlSaganHimself 4 роки тому +2

      He also stated our education is largely an indoctrination toward aforementioned ideologies which neglect numerous important issues discussed in the video. I don't believe making our garbage overpriced education system free via an increased tax burden will solve all that much. Nationalized medical care will solve much more so let's orient toward that first. These are incredibly complex issues which will never be tackled when American focus is constantly oriented toward presidential elections that merely determine which corporate bodies will have more priority in the legislative body and combative bipartisan ideological monologs which only deepen our delusional conceptual divides.

    • @MrSp0iler
      @MrSp0iler 3 роки тому

      @@reforest4fertility diesel was killed

  • @Epsillion70
    @Epsillion70 9 років тому +78

    I believe I have had a complete Paradigm shift after watching this brilliant and profound Noam Chomsky video. As I lived all through this period and was spoon fed all the USA rhetoric and believed it all etc. Watching this video has now made me understand what the bigger picture was and still is and is a malevolent one was/is that indeed.

    • @noamfinnegan8663
      @noamfinnegan8663 3 роки тому +2

      HOORAY
      And I hope the years since your post you're safe and well. You live in the most dangerous of places.

    • @trukviet
      @trukviet 3 роки тому +2

      Same with me.
      Hey, we should arrange a live, world-wide talk with Noam. There must be millions of us around the globe. He's still alive in Arizona, talks everyday. We should all reach out to him and listen to his last to thoughts.
      Imagine millions of his students with him on line.
      How can we pull that off?

    • @Epsillion70
      @Epsillion70 3 роки тому +3

      @@noamfinnegan8663 It was back in 2019 that I decided to leave Australia for good and start a new life in Scotland where I was born actually! I am so thankful now after seeing the latest news of the Totalitarian regime that is Australia and most of it states now!

    • @robertdavis100
      @robertdavis100 11 місяців тому +1

      i lived through the 90's Iraq food for oil bombing campaign , i found out that it was a negotiation to privatize Iraq's' national oil industry, i.e. to be exploited by the western oil majors

  • @Navillus.55
    @Navillus.55 9 років тому +7

    We are so fortunate to have Noam Chomsky among us. Even today, when he is in his mid-to-late eighties, he is still amazingly intelligent and continues to educate the public on the horror our government has done to others throughout the world. Thank you Dr. Chomsky for being here and continuing your work...

  • @wlmkn
    @wlmkn 9 років тому +148

    Bernie Chomsky 2016

    • @rocketassistedgoat1079
      @rocketassistedgoat1079 9 років тому

      xXAlexBulletKillXx No. The reason Bernie can win; is because he's not a radical. Peaceniks campaigning for him, or anarcho-marxist peaceniks being appointed to his cabinet; would be ammunition-from-god for the GOP attack machine. The Republicans would win.

    • @jaschul
      @jaschul 9 років тому +9

      xXAlexBulletKillXx Noam's like 85. Let him rest.

    • @meshakvb6431
      @meshakvb6431 9 років тому +1

      Jason Schulman Lmao! Noam can hardly talk anymore, unfortunately. What a great man, it will be terribly sad to see him go.

    • @caldwell477
      @caldwell477 9 років тому +1

      xXAlexBulletKillXx I'm so scared about this Trump guy I know he is a joke. But he seems to keep on wining!!!! I wonder what Chomsky thinks of Trump?

    • @rocketassistedgoat1079
      @rocketassistedgoat1079 9 років тому +2

      cc477
      He can't win; as at least 30% of Republicans won't vote for him. And Democrats and independents who are tempted, well..Bernie doesn't come with the crazy, so I think most realize he's the better alternative. They're the only-two talking about how corrupt the system is, hence why they're drawing such interest. The latest polls show Bernie beating every GOP candidate nationally-except Jeb, who he ties with. Several polls show Hillary can be beaten, as she's surrounded by controversy and doesn't excite her base. Even Trump's admitted; facing off against Hillary would be a dream-whereas Bernie scares him much-more, as he would be so much harder to beat.

  • @HKHasty
    @HKHasty 8 років тому +20

    Always admired Chomsky, and I'm
    certainly voting for Bernie. Seeing them together just makes me more confident in my choice.

  • @chonus4497
    @chonus4497 8 років тому +57

    Chomsky feels the Bern.

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому +1

      Check out what a liar Dirty Bernie Sanders is:
      WASHINGTON, Jan. 24 - Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) issued the following statement Thursday on the political situation in Venezuela:
      "The Maduro government in Venezuela has been waging a violent crackdown on Venezuelan civil society, violated the constitution by dissolving the National Assembly and was re-elected last year in an election that many observers said was fraudulent. Further, the economy is a disaster and millions are migrating.”

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому

      Chomsky is a traitor to the US and his pretend ideals. WALTER LIPPMAN created the phrase "Manufacturing Consent" and Chomsky stole it. Edward Bernays had another word for it, "Engineering Consent". Chomsky CO-WROTE 'Manufacturing Consent' with Herman who wrote MOST of the book, and then Chomsky went on to take credit for all of it. Lipman and Bernays wrote about it years before Chomsky stole it.

    • @cristiancr714
      @cristiancr714 4 роки тому

      @@dpersonal4187 All of these statements are true, and I can tell they've been taken out of context as Bernie has a recent time criticized from US sanctions for example and intervention abroad more in general.

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 4 роки тому

      @@cristiancr714 That was Bernie's actual tweet.

    • @cristiancr714
      @cristiancr714 4 роки тому

      @@dpersonal4187 Still again these statements are for the most part, although I wish he would have expressed his sentiments at length as he does on other occasions, true.

  • @matthewo2261
    @matthewo2261 5 років тому +10

    How is this the first time I've seen this video? Chompsky and Bernie are the best possible political duo.

    • @spamaccount9386
      @spamaccount9386 5 років тому +1

      Chomsky much older, but true

    • @CIARUNSITE
      @CIARUNSITE 2 роки тому

      Seriously I thought I'd seen every Chomsky talk on UA-cam.

  • @robertcovarrubias1109
    @robertcovarrubias1109 9 років тому +5

    Great presentation, Norman Chomsky and Bernie Sanders. Now, we need to vote for Mr. Bernie Sanders for President. There is no choice, we need this man in this office. Now, otherwise we are doom.

    • @gwarlow
      @gwarlow 11 місяців тому

      8 years later… how did that whole voting for Bernie idea play out? Oh.

  • @Jamesrjs
    @Jamesrjs 9 років тому +42

    Oh, this really is a gem--peripherally for Bernie Sanders, primarily for Chomsky. Hard to believe this is from 30 years ago--most of it (maybe all of it) is as vital and as relevant now as it was then.
    I strongly recommend watching all of this--all two hours. (Even that's not the end, but apparently they ran out of recording tape at 2 hours 8 minutes or so.)
    For those with little time, at least watch the last eleven minutes--from apprx. 1:57:00 to where the tape ends at 2:08 or so. About eleven minutes--priceless.

  • @travismathis3279
    @travismathis3279 5 років тому +6

    I love that they have been old for my entire life. Love these two especially when together!!!!

  • @amihartz
    @amihartz 6 років тому +16

    18:13 When Chomksy and Bernie come together, even Jesus has to witness it.

  • @pelaofic
    @pelaofic 5 років тому +9

    Chilean citizen here, for me Noam Chomsky is the most brave and important man alive.

  • @jamiethecommie546
    @jamiethecommie546 8 років тому +32

    I know my anarchist comrades have their doubts about sanders but I feel that if he supports Noam Chomsky he understands the cause

    • @nikolademitri731
      @nikolademitri731 7 років тому +6

      Jamiethecommie what anarchists, and other far leftist/socialists of all stripes need to understand is that Bernie isn't going to run on a platform left of social democracy and/or social liberalism, but that doesn't mean he isn't an actual socialist. My understanding is he's somewhere between a libertarian socialist and democratic socialist, but that he doesn't legislate, or campaign as such. Imo that's a good thing. Left of social democracy isn't happening in this country anytime soon, in part bc to most people in this country, such a position is extremist far left. Granted, it's not far left, but that's just how far right our politics are skewed. I'm a man of two political positions, my ideal is libertarian socialism of some sort (in other words, that's my "in a perfect world" system), but my realistic position, bc right now my ideal just isn't realistic to expect or vote for (and we're nowhere near a revolution that could pull it off... and even then I'm more a gradualist - though I'm not sympathetic with Leninism ffs), is social liberalism or social democracy, bc that's the furthest left we're getting in the states any time soon. Let's face it: a social liberal system, akin to what the U.K. had post-WW2 and pre-neoliberal 80s, would practically be a socialist paradise in the US, compared to what we have now, or anything we've ever been close to in decades. The neoliberal nightmare is still running strong, and capitalism is pretty safe in it's fail-proof-bailouts-for-the-rich arms. Socialists/Anarchists/Leftists of all stripes need to face reality, accept this, and settle for less than an their *ideal* world, in exchange for a reasonable, further left (and actual left of center) than what he have now world. Let's at least get left of center, for the first time in somewhere around 50+ years, before we expect to get far left, and then work from there. As far as I'm concerned, that's the only option on the table. The means of production are off limits for a while, and frankly, we're lucky if we get them before technology/robots do.. ✌🏼

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому

      Bernie is not one of us. Bernie is a millionaire, and now he's stopped criticizing millionaires, just billionaires. Bernie knifed us in the back, but at least he got a brand new $600,000 Lake Champlain vacation home out of the deal. I'm sure his neighbors are good working-class people. Nice work if you can get it.

    • @octarinestar5340
      @octarinestar5340 5 років тому +7

      @@dpersonal4187 His wife had inherited a home in Pennsylvania and they sold it and got one to be able spend time with the geandkids and large family he has. His other two homes are a one bedroom townhouse in dc and his old modest home in Vermont that he bought as a lot and worked on it for most of his adult life. His books have sold enough to barely qualify him as a millionare for the first time in his life since he belongs to the poorest senators. The cost of the home is not even that high for the area, here in California a small 2bd home in a working class neighboorhood is like 400,000 average with no big patio or anything. He worked really hard last campaign so he deserves to enjoy life too is not been greedy. He is not against millionares but the top tier elite who bleed out everyone else, dont pay their fair share are not fair with employees and control politics to keep benefiting themselves over sacrificing the ones on the bottom by burying deeper into debt, lack of opportunities, education, healthcare and so on. Bernie knew that he needed to stay in the Senate to keep working on turning the wh progressive so he started with the movenent that brought people like AOC and diverse progressives into the WH. He has never stopped working and is not about him but getting regular people involved and into the wh. Even if a Democrat would had won they would it been stuck not been able to make real change and getting blocked. He has impacted the party by adapting the platform to his policies so now its been forced to become more progressive. People do want change and the dnc is pushing their establishment pick(and alternative. They are playing identity politics and we have all the different minotities to see who stick with the public by stealing Vernies platform and pretending to be progressive. The truth is the party is controlled by outside forces that are use the media to attack with their smears black out his campaign from exposure. Super long sorry! Lolll
      Have a good day!

    • @MrSp0iler
      @MrSp0iler 3 роки тому

      lets replace slavery with slavery

  • @zabzec1500
    @zabzec1500 9 років тому +56

    Bernie and Noam in 1985? Holy Cow
    #Cowspiracy

    • @lemmysverruca
      @lemmysverruca 9 років тому +6

      +AA2 *1985

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому

      Check out what a liar Dirty Bernie Sanders is:
      WASHINGTON, Jan. 24 - Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) issued the following statement Thursday on the political situation in Venezuela:
      "The Maduro government in Venezuela has been waging a violent crackdown on Venezuelan civil society, violated the constitution by dissolving the National Assembly and was re-elected last year in an election that many observers said was fraudulent. Further, the economy is a disaster and millions are migrating.”

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому

      Chomsky is a traitor to the US and his pretend ideals. WALTER LIPPMAN created the phrase "Manufacturing Consent" and Chomsky stole it. Edward Bernays had another word for it, "Engineering Consent". Chomsky CO-WROTE 'Manufacturing Consent' with Herman who wrote MOST of the book, and then Chomsky went on to take credit for all of it. Lipman and Bernays wrote about it years before Chomsky stole it.

    • @mapleglazedsocialist6995
      @mapleglazedsocialist6995 5 років тому +1

      @D Personal
      In this speech he literally mentions that he developed the term from Bernays and Lippman... also any time he is asked about the writing of manufacturing consent he clearly says Herman wrote the portions of structure of the media and Chomsky focused in on the specific examples that test the analysis of the propaganda model filtering system, such as the comparison of the treatment of events in Cambodia and East Timor in the media.
      You’re the only liar here...
      Maduro deserves heavy criticism for various things but note that Bernie is basically where most Venezuelan people are, criticizing their government while also opposing US intervention. Bernie has been clear about opposing US intervention in the situation.

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому

      ​@@mapleglazedsocialist6995 Chomsky (who is smarter than all of us put together) knows that he is widely attributed for the name and concept of "Manufacturing Consent", but uses his undeserved street credibility in order to push his agenda - as a Zionist gatekeeper.

  • @LoFiSymphony
    @LoFiSymphony 9 років тому +128

    Listening to Noam Chomsky feels like doing a bunch of cocaine, with the minor exception that you then make good decisions and actually feel good the next day.

    • @blackie1012
      @blackie1012 9 років тому +7

      +Major Powers Maybe back then, nowadays it feels like I've mainlined a lethal dose of heroin.

    • @riccardo9383
      @riccardo9383 8 років тому +2

      +Jordan Cunningham There's a 5 and a half hour lecture of his from a few years ago somewhere on UA-cam with 240p and horrible sound quality.
      If that does not satisfy your intellect (and need for sacrifice), seek professional guidance.

    • @billy-joes6851
      @billy-joes6851 8 років тому

      Meth!!

    • @jekonimus
      @jekonimus 6 років тому +2

      I do not know about the feeling good... i get depressed. :-) He does talk about changes for the better some times, throughout the century. But somehow, we always find new and innovative ways to spread misery and despair.

    • @mck1972
      @mck1972 6 років тому

      Is snorting cocaine actually MORE harmful than taking what Chomsky says seriously???
      Wow-That's a tough choice...

  • @ybanrab10
    @ybanrab10 7 років тому +10

    This is Noam at his absolute best. And Bernie was right there, listening....

  • @TheGregStrickland
    @TheGregStrickland 9 років тому +2

    This man has been saying this for over 50 years and we will just keep listening and do nothing. Be the change.

  • @hiimbasko5456
    @hiimbasko5456 9 років тому +11

    Thank you so much, I had scanned through youtube to find all of Chomsky's talks, but this was probably the most insightful, seeing bernie sanders as there too. Thank you so much!

  • @bradchilders5546
    @bradchilders5546 9 років тому +17

    This absolutely made my day, no, my month!!!

  • @mach1gtx150
    @mach1gtx150 6 років тому +2

    Never heard this, very important to today's issues! Thank you for posting this for all to see and hear!

  • @boutchie06
    @boutchie06 9 років тому +2

    Genius! I need a transcript that highlights the main points because this has so much important info it blows my mind. So cool that Bernie Sanders introduced him! Bernie Sanders 2016!

  • @thechillywinds5810
    @thechillywinds5810 6 років тому +3

    Its cool to think that back in the day Noam was an inspiration for Bernie and nowadays Bernie is an inspiration for Noam.

  • @HighlandChicken
    @HighlandChicken 6 років тому +2

    In awe at the consistency of these lads
    Absolute bois

  • @BillBillingsly
    @BillBillingsly 9 років тому +3

    Such a valuable video and a treasured resource found in Noam. I tell everyone to see his lectures and presentations. As well as reading "Confessions of an Economic Hitman.

  • @Atombender
    @Atombender 9 років тому +6

    Interesting to see these two on stage together. They have never diverted from their paths.

  • @dengelke
    @dengelke 8 років тому +15

    1:27:00 (or so) Chomsky predicts Syria conflict.

  • @alexkang7360
    @alexkang7360 4 роки тому +2

    I love listening to younger Chomsky because you can hear how well spoken he is clearly. Its sad to hear his worn out voice in his 90s

  • @Abdced
    @Abdced 9 років тому +87

    This among other things proves this mans realness, Noam didn't have to prove anything to me though, done long ago..

    • @Abdced
      @Abdced 9 років тому +2

      I'm not so certain anymore though. What about Palestine? The stolen land. Here is what 'Bernie' is about; www.mintpressnews.com/bernie-sanders-foreign-policy-includes-unlimited-military-aid-to-saudi-regime/209100/

    • @pplswar
      @pplswar  9 років тому

      +Jean-Paul Fisch What's wrong with Sanders' voting record?

    • @KittredgeRitter
      @KittredgeRitter 9 років тому +1

      The only thing I wish he would have talked about that he didn't, is the consequences of speaking out in a democracy?

    • @Demonblade777
      @Demonblade777 9 років тому +2

      +Klas K Mint press is owned by Mnar Muhawesh do your homework before you spread rhetoric around as fact .

    • @pplswar
      @pplswar  9 років тому

      Demonblade777
      Who is Mnar Muhawesh and why is it relevant? Mint Press is pro-Assad, pro-fascist trash.

  • @gigihammerstein5944
    @gigihammerstein5944 Рік тому

    and he is still going strong, a brilliant and beautiful intellect, a powerhouse of experience- thank you Sir for untangling
    what is really going on ❤

  • @TheWhocares233
    @TheWhocares233 9 років тому +10

    This is an absolutely amazing video, I did not like either Bernie or Noam before I sat down and really analyzed this video and the evidence provided. Thank you for helping me understand the world a little better.

    • @aaronhoy3410
      @aaronhoy3410 9 років тому +1

      +TheWhocares233 Yeah search Noam Chomsky >20 min to find many of his other talks throughout the decades. I would actually say this one in particular is probably on the lower end of the spectrum of quality and they all have a ton of sources that he mentions for people to look and see if they agree with what he says.

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому +1

      Bernie is not one of us. Bernie is a millionaire, and now he's stopped criticizing millionaires, just billionaires. Bernie knifed us in the back, but at least he got a brand new $600,000 Lake Champlain vacation home out of the deal. I'm sure his neighbors are good working-class people. Nice work if you can get it.

    • @robertstewart4953
      @robertstewart4953 5 років тому

      @@dpersonal4187 He wrote a best seller, get over it snowflake. Bernie has been and always will be for the working people of america, getting a couple million in royalties from a damn good book is no issue for people who actually pay attention to who Bernie is and what he has done.

  • @Frank-cj3nh
    @Frank-cj3nh 9 років тому +14

    OMG this is great....Bernie then and Bernie now!!!! I wonder what Noam thinks have him running as president.

    • @mapleownage27
      @mapleownage27 9 років тому

      Frank O'Neal probably weighing the ethical dilemma that arises from backing Israel's occupation of Gaza/West Bank for political gain. In my opinion it's justified, even in a really Machiavellian way.

    • @lyzazel
      @lyzazel 9 років тому +4

      Frank O'Neal www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/32eo3c/i_asked_noam_chomsky_if_he_would_endorse_bernie/

    • @MesmerGW2
      @MesmerGW2 9 років тому +7

      Frank O'Neal "I'm glad that Sanders is running. A good way to bring important ideas and facts to people. His candidacy might also press the Dems a little in a progressive direction. In our system of bought elections he has scarcely a chance of getting beyond the primaries, and even if by some miracle he were elected he wouldn't be able to do anything, lacking any congressional representatives, governors, etc. As far as I can see he's a thorn in the side of the Clinton machine, which is not a bad thing."

    • @MesmerGW2
      @MesmerGW2 9 років тому +2

      Frank O'Neal - Noam Chomsky

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому

      Bernie is not one of us. Bernie is a millionaire, and now he's stopped criticizing millionaires, just billionaires. Bernie knifed us in the back, but at least he got a brand new $600,000 Lake Champlain vacation home out of the deal. I'm sure his neighbors are good working-class people. Nice work if you can get it.

  • @benhoagland4490
    @benhoagland4490 5 років тому +1

    Incredible. Would be amazing to see this happen again

  • @octarinestar5340
    @octarinestar5340 5 років тому +2

    Two of the people are admire very much(and I only have a handful)!

    • @noamfinnegan8663
      @noamfinnegan8663 3 роки тому

      I know it's amazing and I'm named after him, lucky for me I'm not called George W.
      I met another hero of mine ( Jerry Adams) and as I live in Ireland the chance of meeting either is super slim. I would recommend you do as the joy is always worth recalling.

  • @afonsomiguelf
    @afonsomiguelf 9 років тому +2

    this was the best talk/conference I have ever seen...
    what a genious dr Chomsky is
    holy shit

  • @fractalspace1111
    @fractalspace1111 9 років тому +38

    I feel like Chomsky lost some optimism after the Bush administration. What I found interesting was when he was talking about threats after the year 2000. To say Chomsky isn't accurate is disingenuous.

    • @TipoQueTocaelPiano
      @TipoQueTocaelPiano 9 років тому +14

      Simon Keel One will lose optimism as his life gets close to an end and you realize that nothing has changed

    • @eashton42
      @eashton42 9 років тому

      Simon Keel I think a serious critique of Chomsky-in other words, one that doesn't resort to accusations of factual inaccuracy-would be to criticize the way he characterizes certain things, as well as his emphasis. His contention is that since he lives in the United States, his concern should be, and is, documenting and criticizing the "violence" of the United States; you'll find that this position is absolutely unwavering. Furthermore, Prof. Chomsky does not believe, in effect, that states are legitimate entities; now that's a perfectly tenable position, but it's one with which I very strongly disagree, and it does, in my view, devalue some of his pronouncements, particularly some of the more categorical ones.

    • @JWD1012
      @JWD1012 9 років тому +5

      +Edward Ashton His contention is not merely that since he lives in the United States his focus should therefore be on documenting and criticising violence committed by the United States but that since the United States assumes the position of the moral beacon to the unstable world, and largely gets away with this fairly ridiculous pose while diminishing the possibilities of morality and chipping away at the stability of the world, a critique of that position is eminently more necessary and vital than a critique of the cartoonishly villainous enemies the U.S. sets itself against. That is to say that Chomsky is not especially interested in saying what goes without saying. This is why, if you actually look for it, you can find plenty of examples of him calling, for example, Saddam Hussein a "monster" and an evil man, but he's not especially interested in spending a career drawing wide-ranging over-arching critiques of overtly villainous mustachioed thugs, because everybody knows them and what they are about and why they are a bad thing. On the other hand, since even the most innocuous and factually verifiable contentions Chomsky makes provoke accusations of "anti-americanism" and/or lunacy, there's evidently much important work to be done, as far as discussing the things Chomsky chooses to discuss.

    • @fractalspace1111
      @fractalspace1111 9 років тому +3

      Edward Ashton Chomsky always makes a point of showing his readers that the United States is responsible for the same acts of violence that it likes to prosecute and accuse others of. I think you are majorly misinterpreting what he writes about. I don't know if you have read his books but I have read some chapters of Hegemony or Survival and Necessary Illusions: Thought Control in Democratic Societies. Chomsky isn't merely accusing the United States of being violent, he is pointing out the foreign policy on the United States is one of hypocrisy because the only time people dying is right in the eyes of our law is when it is by the hands of the United States, and you will see that is true if you look through our history of the last 40 years. It is hard to talk about Chomsky until you have actually read his literature because his ideas are very much grounded in fact and maybe to jingoist it doesn't seem right what he is saying, but he is very much a rational person and what he says is true, in terms of morality. It is impossible to find a mainstream news source that isn't biased. Mainstream media doesn't talk about what Chomsky talks about because if they did they would get cancelled. A hypocrite is someone who says "don't do that" and then turns around and does exactly what they told others not to do. That is precisely what the United States does.

    • @eashton42
      @eashton42 9 років тому

      Simon Keel I have read Chomsky, in fact, but I'm curious if you would clarify one point: you say "...very much grounded in fact and maybe to jingoist it doesn't seem right what he is saying," and I'm curious if the jingoist to whom you're referring is me. If so, I'd like to know why it is that you think that. (This is not passive-aggressive or anything of that sort; I'm genuinely curious, and if I've been expressing views that sound like jingoism, I'd like to know what they are.)
      As to your other points, I don't find much to disagree with on the merits. My critique is a more sweeping one, and Prof. Chomsky did, in fact, say at one point that he does not consider states to be legitimate. This was, I'm almost certain, in a debate/discussion with Michel Foucault that was held a long time ago, but it lives here on UA-cam. Foucault speaks in French, but I think there are subtitles; I don't remember if there are, but I'm pretty sure of it. It's a very high-level, conceptual kind of debate, and it was some time ago, but I don't see Chomsky as someone who would walk back a statement of that kind-and besides, it's a view that is pretty consistent with his views of a lifetime. None of this is to say that I don't consider Chomsky serious or anything like that, only that I disagree profoundly with his views on a lot of matters of foreign policy.
      Now I've babbled on long enough for one comment, but if you're interested in why it is that I disagree with Chomsky's point of view, I'd be happy to tell you. I don't necessarily disagree with a lot of what you've said about state violence and so on, though. My critique is just a bit more fine-grained that I might have made it seem in my earlier comment.

  • @thundertruck6577
    @thundertruck6577 5 років тому +4

    Bernie for president Noam for vice president

  • @mrmtn37
    @mrmtn37 7 років тому +3

    Fantastic video, phenomenol Sound qaulity I am blown away. Whoever is responsible for this vid deserves an acadeny award for production value and sound qaulity Impressed indeed.Much love to all life priceless in every miraculous way. Does anyone here know how WW1 was ended? Does anyone here know why military force was used against citizens during Wilsons presidency? Why the US entered WW1? If you have the answers please search UA-cam for Soicialist Libertarian, please join your local movement lets get active and bring the populations of the USA and the world into peace love cooperation? This is no ad it is a plea for sanity before the capitalists resume their elimination of the excess labor in this country and soon all over the world. Much love to all Life!

  • @corvanphoenix
    @corvanphoenix 9 років тому +1

    This video is still so relevant! Amazing to see how much is forgotten, for me many of the pieces of information were revelations. I was a child during this era & learning about it is vital to understand why the world is how it is. I still remember first reading about the CIA overthrowing an Iranian government in the 50's & knowing what happened subsequently, it instantly laid plain why they hate us & why we're not trusted there. This speech felt much like that, particularly in terms of the central American dialogue. Thanks very much.

  • @Rhettofbodom
    @Rhettofbodom 9 років тому +15

    This is a great video

  • @Bavanunthan
    @Bavanunthan 7 місяців тому

    Debates of this nature surely opens up new vistas of thinking on politics n economics.

  • @HallyVee
    @HallyVee 5 років тому +3

    So not only did Bernie introduce Chomsky, but he gtfo the way after a short and sweet intro. Enough for my vote.

  • @Plantsandtoyhorses
    @Plantsandtoyhorses 7 років тому +5

    When history is written by the winners, all other out comes, no matter how true, never happened.

    • @MrSp0iler
      @MrSp0iler 3 роки тому

      animals

    • @noamfinnegan8663
      @noamfinnegan8663 3 роки тому

      Not in the digital age, we see with our own eyes now. It's just propaganda.
      I'm also reminded of disgusting recent empires who told their tale as winners, however, the enslaved are now free and we rewrite history to the facts that happened.

  • @justgivemethetruth
    @justgivemethetruth 8 років тому +4

    Thank you for putting up this video ... what a shame Bernie is not the Democratic nominee for President.
    Funny how in 1985 they are talking about that phrase avowed socialist ... and all year of the campaign they referred to Bernie as a self-avowed socialist.

  • @thomasseaton7771
    @thomasseaton7771 8 років тому +6

    This is 30 plus years ago!!!

  • @Zullv
    @Zullv 9 років тому +2

    A man that everybody could learn from

  • @inspire854
    @inspire854 9 років тому

    Exellent journey throug historical events - gave me a good perspective to understand, what is going on todays politicial jargon. Appreciated !

  • @stoneage5153
    @stoneage5153 9 років тому +1

    It is visionary. History is proof of foresight.

  • @DigitalCinematography
    @DigitalCinematography 9 років тому +5

    30 years ago and still true

  • @eoindiff
    @eoindiff 8 років тому +20

    2 of my hereos

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому

      Bernie is not one of us. Bernie is a millionaire, and now he's stopped criticizing millionaires, just billionaires. Bernie knifed us in the back, but at least he got a brand new $600,000 Lake Champlain vacation home out of the deal. I'm sure his neighbors are good working-class people. Nice work if you can get it.

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому

      Chomsky is a traitor to the US and his pretend ideals. WALTER LIPPMAN created the phrase "Manufacturing Consent" and Chomsky stole it. Edward Bernays had another word for it, "Engineering Consent". Chomsky CO-WROTE 'Manufacturing Consent' with Herman who wrote MOST of the book, and then Chomsky went on to take credit for all of it. Lipman and Bernays wrote about it years before Chomsky stole it.

    • @d4lep0ro
      @d4lep0ro 5 років тому +1

      @@dpersonal4187 Doing talks is not taking credit, in fact read the prelude.

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому

      @@d4lep0ro Your muddled thinking betrays you. Who is Sanders really working for? Like Chomsky, he openly admits he's a Zionist and opposes BDS because it hurts Israel, The Homeland of the J’s, and opposes withdrawing from Syria. Bernie supports The White Helmets, and votes to fund every war every time because it helps Israel - it's all there in the open.
      Vote Third Party - REAL Third Parties, not the fake Sanders kind.

  • @thekoolaidmaker5103
    @thekoolaidmaker5103 8 років тому

    thank you peoples war for posting this video

  • @kapa1611
    @kapa1611 8 років тому +25

    the guy introducing noam chomsky may become president of the US this year! this is exciting! :D

    • @zabzec1500
      @zabzec1500 8 років тому

      Yeah.. so much for that! the Democrats/Clintons and mainstream media colluded and cheated against him

    • @kapa1611
      @kapa1611 8 років тому

      AA2
      ya :/ its a shame

    • @billy-joes6851
      @billy-joes6851 8 років тому +1

      Enters; hi I'm president Trump .

    • @kapa1611
      @kapa1611 8 років тому

      Bill Hampton
      that is cruel xD xD it is sad that Trump won :/ however unlikeable Clinton is, at least she wouldn t have had rudy giuliani, gingrich and others in her administration :/

    • @billy-joes6851
      @billy-joes6851 8 років тому +1

      Don't forget Sarah Palin and Bolton lol with Trump as boss and Chris Christie, this should be remarkable.

  • @Jon.A.Scholt
    @Jon.A.Scholt 3 роки тому +1

    Chomsky and Bernie are my two of my political heroes. They stand (far) apart from the rest of those with opinions on or who are in American politics because they are consistent with their opinions; opinions that are rooted in justice for those who have no traditional power. It's sad Chomsky is now 91 I believe, and won't be with us much longer. Bernie is also getting up there. When they're gone I fear for our collective moral compass.

  • @ceilingsandfloors
    @ceilingsandfloors 9 років тому +10

    bernie sanders gave a talk with chomsky? that;'s he 100% has my vote. or...he would have my vote if I was an American.

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому

      Check out what a liar Dirty Bernie Sanders is:
      WASHINGTON, Jan. 24 - Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) issued the following statement Thursday on the political situation in Venezuela:
      "The Maduro government in Venezuela has been waging a violent crackdown on Venezuelan civil society, violated the constitution by dissolving the National Assembly and was re-elected last year in an election that many observers said was fraudulent. Further, the economy is a disaster and millions are migrating.”

    • @dpersonal4187
      @dpersonal4187 5 років тому

      Chomsky is a traitor to the US and his pretend ideals. WALTER LIPPMAN created the phrase "Manufacturing Consent" and Chomsky stole it. Edward Bernays had another word for it, "Engineering Consent". Chomsky CO-WROTE 'Manufacturing Consent' with Herman who wrote MOST of the book, and then Chomsky went on to take credit for all of it. Lipman and Bernays wrote about it years before Chomsky stole it.

  • @tnmcaybode6711
    @tnmcaybode6711 9 років тому

    Thanks for sharing. Great piece.

  • @TheBlackrabbit4
    @TheBlackrabbit4 9 років тому

    I really love this man - he sees the unbiased truth in global issues, and is unafraid to speak up. I only hope soon his work and his vision of understanding complex issues will be taught everywhere especially in schools, or this madness in Syria, Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, South America and in our own countries with the oppression of the masses and indoctrination will continue to worsen. We all need to open our eyes now.

  • @richgrisham
    @richgrisham 9 років тому

    Thanks for this posting. I hadn't seen that this one. Viva La Chomsky!

  • @erikolson3282
    @erikolson3282 9 років тому +1

    I love how Bernie just walks away from the podium after announcing Noam. Doesn't even look at him.

  • @ToddWright2
    @ToddWright2 3 роки тому

    Great talk. It caused me to seek out the work of Harold Lasswell(I already had Edward Bernays and Walter Lippmann)

  • @Malrynn
    @Malrynn 9 років тому +1

    Two of my favorite Americans, truly great men that stand out in the crowd of numb sheep.

  • @lamontcranston4203
    @lamontcranston4203 8 років тому +4

    >ever heard of them suppressing the ability to convert water into hydrogen
    Splitting the water element into its base atoms is standard electrolysis and has been around since forever. But Conservation of Energy being what is you cant get more energy out of this, hydrogen to use as fuel, than the energy put into split the water molecule into its base atoms.

  • @justgivemethetruth
    @justgivemethetruth 8 років тому +1

    5:19 - "Political parties in the United States are blocks of major investors who coalesce to advance candidates representing their interests. The real market for political parties is not voters, but rather major investors who generally have good and clear reasons for investing to control the state"
    -Tom Ferguson quoted by Noam Chomsky

  • @xMI55IONx
    @xMI55IONx 9 років тому +1

    It's people like this that gives me hope that maybe, just maybe, good shall prevail and America might prevent (or at least postpone) it's own destruction as well as the rest of the world. Bernie Sanders is the coolest dude ever, should defo have Chomsky as his advisor when he wins the presidency.

  • @iceydaywalker9198
    @iceydaywalker9198 7 років тому +2

    two awesome men

  • @infiniteinfiniteinfi
    @infiniteinfiniteinfi 9 років тому +25

    Great talk, thanks for sharing!
    Anybody knows if part 2 is available online?

    • @pplswar
      @pplswar  9 років тому +13

      infiniteinfiniteinfi If I find it, I'll post it.

    • @spj771
      @spj771 9 років тому +5

      Peoples War Thanks for this video.

    • @JamesLivesInBuffalo
      @JamesLivesInBuffalo 9 років тому +6

      +infiniteinfiniteinfi 2 hours is part one??? Damnit, Noam...

    • @pplswar
      @pplswar  9 років тому +1

      +James Pollard You took the words out of my mouth. I've never even watched this entire video (lol).

  • @shyamvijay8985
    @shyamvijay8985 5 років тому +2

    Chomsky has aged so much while Bernie looks exactly the same!

  • @thesinaclwon
    @thesinaclwon 3 роки тому

    Holy shit this was 3 years after I was born........Bernie has always been old since before I was born 😂 love ya Bernie stay healthy!!

  • @shrimboy7492
    @shrimboy7492 9 років тому +1

    Great tip for u guys... download the video and extract the mp3.. load into ur phone... listen while stuck in traffic.. much better than listening to the sport talks and rightwing talks on AM radio...

  • @paifu.
    @paifu. 4 роки тому +1

    15:00 Exactly, also there is more knowledge on human psychology/thought control, which they can use to their advantage. Same for technology.
    24:40 Controlled opposition.
    40:00 Domino theory
    1:06:16
    1:50:25
    2:01:19

  • @Kostly
    @Kostly 9 років тому

    WOW!!! Bernie Sanders setting up Noam Chomsky. FUCKING AMAZING!

  • @Boeing185
    @Boeing185 9 років тому

    Bernie, being awesome since forever

  • @VelhaGuardaTricolor
    @VelhaGuardaTricolor 5 років тому +1

    That is what the USA is doing to Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Colombia, etc... as we speak.

  • @anarchosteve4816
    @anarchosteve4816 3 роки тому

    Can't believe i haven't seen this

  • @Kostly
    @Kostly 9 років тому

    This makes me proud to be American. If America doesn't elect Bernie Sanders, there is no reason for me to stay here. But, I will stay here. I refuse to leave. These two people have convinced me that staying here is WORTH it.

  • @ntvb-l1f
    @ntvb-l1f 6 років тому

    I wish I was in Burlington in those great days

  • @stonedzebra420
    @stonedzebra420 6 років тому +1

    He wrote about this in his book!

  • @CoolBeanz12thr33
    @CoolBeanz12thr33 5 років тому +1

    They need to come back together now more than ever.

  • @fredbare8411
    @fredbare8411 8 років тому +2

    At one point Christianity practiced liberation theology--now it practices the prosperity gospel.

  • @srigunapati
    @srigunapati 8 років тому

    I love this man. Xxxx

  • @hectorhernandez7389
    @hectorhernandez7389 3 роки тому

    All I can say is thank god Chomsky and sanders are on our side.

  • @nicojapasmusic
    @nicojapasmusic 4 роки тому +1

    This is gold

  • @myroseaccount
    @myroseaccount 7 років тому

    Utterly devastating

  • @ganjamozart1435
    @ganjamozart1435 2 роки тому

    When Chomsky takes off his blazer you know you are in for a rude awakening.

  • @AlanMannion100
    @AlanMannion100 9 років тому +1

    Bernie Sanders has been consistently correct and consistently courageous. Can one imagine the " follow the political weather vein " Hilary Clinton hosting a Chomsky event ?...hahahah

  • @EastTexasUFOs
    @EastTexasUFOs 9 років тому +8

    1:24:40 He predicts WW3 in Syria

  • @Floxflow
    @Floxflow 7 років тому

    Fantastic!

  • @Elliejoyless
    @Elliejoyless 9 років тому

    this is awesome! thanks!

  • @hansmenck
    @hansmenck 9 років тому +1

    intellectual warrior.

  • @ProfessorSyndicateFranklai
    @ProfessorSyndicateFranklai 3 роки тому

    Yes Minister is another such series which presents a naked view of the government and how it operates, albeit in 1960s/70s UK. Still, while the coverings have changed, the corrupt core really hasn't changed since the first bureaucrats elevated a baby to the Emperor of China. There's a reason that mandarins is a term that refers to bureaucrats.
    One particular notable quotation: never believe anything unless it's been officially denied.

  • @ClaxNVEST
    @ClaxNVEST 8 років тому +4

    What a prescient lecture.

    • @fragasm726
      @fragasm726 8 років тому +1

      +ClaxNVEST Some say a good measure of intelligence is the ability to predict the future.

  • @ProfessorSyndicateFranklai
    @ProfessorSyndicateFranklai 3 роки тому

    1985 was a year so similar to 1984, and while the year passed without much thought and perhaps the occasional pat on the back that Oceania is not at war Eurasia, if it were, they would not have known either way, which is perhaps much the worse.

  • @zephyr2427
    @zephyr2427 9 років тому

    I love this video!

  • @kevintrye7605
    @kevintrye7605 5 років тому +2

    Reviewing this is 2019. Loved 1:38:00 onwards...

  • @baoanhnguyen9186
    @baoanhnguyen9186 3 роки тому

    Sanders and Chomsky... wow

  • @jonoboyleenglishteacherand1689
    @jonoboyleenglishteacherand1689 9 років тому

    Is there anyone who can take the main points on this and make it a concise short film? It is vital analysis in the world of today

  • @plantman5126
    @plantman5126 9 років тому

    Just when I think Sanders can't get any better...

  • @billy-joes6851
    @billy-joes6851 8 років тому +1

    Want to here an amazing and heated lecture about the Isreal/Palestine conflict? It's called " Israel Shahak and Noam Chomsky at MIT" fuck it's good and heated debate breaks out in the question and answer period. It's just wild , three hours long almost but so worth it I've seen it at least twice already it's that good.

    • @nikolademitri731
      @nikolademitri731 7 років тому

      Bill Hampton thanks for this. I'll definitely look that up!

  • @william97able2
    @william97able2 8 років тому +1

    bernie sanders was handsome...

  • @GrowLLLTigeRRR
    @GrowLLLTigeRRR 9 років тому +5

    Same hair style, just more of it! GO BERNIE!!!

  • @bdpatton2
    @bdpatton2 8 років тому +7

    How does one become a "Chomsky"?

    • @cockatooinsunglasses7492
      @cockatooinsunglasses7492 6 років тому +5

      -Critical Thought
      -Use The Scientific Method in Everything
      -Have MANY influences (Noam has like 40-50 different influences).
      -Read the books of Wise men, not the bestsellers (Aristotle, Plato etc)
      -Be yourself
      -Rely on credible studies instead of what the news says.

    • @cockatooinsunglasses7492
      @cockatooinsunglasses7492 6 років тому +1

      PS: throw out labels. (View both your own side and the other side outside of the liberal/progressive/conservative/moderate label bubble and analyze and observe it as if you were an outsider).
      And find your own way to critically analyze any situation.
      See how the other sides think and why.
      These won’t turn you into a Chomsky per say, but they’ll make you regain independence and freedom of thought.

    • @tanner955
      @tanner955 4 роки тому

      Cockatoo in Sunglasses did you just say not to read Aristotle?