Roto Grip TNT....Can This Ball Be That Bad?
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- A review of the newest Roto Grip Ball, the TNT. It's out of the box surface 2000, but with my surface scanner, it was reading 1500. Probably best used for fresh or heavier oil patterns.
The thing with this ball is the same issue I had with the hyroad max, the strong cover means the ball dumps all its energy trying not to hook immediately off the friction so it ends up hitting like a marshmallow
Exactly. I took mine to 4000 for league and it looked a lot better. It was hooking at my feet lol. Thanks for watching!
its not a house shot ball...
yeah you're right about that, i'm a 2 hander so i can make it hit but it hits like a sack of potatoes compared to any of my other stuff lol. Cover's just too strong for the core
@RandomHuman agreed I was striking but it didn't feel great
Same thing I had with the Hyroad X.
As a youtuber myself I appreciate this content man. Damn good. I just bought this ball yesterday and used it in league last night and practice today. I’m a hybrid new and not new bowler. My sister toured like 2nd tier WPBA and we grew up in the bowling alley with the Prather family and other great bowlers in Pensacola. I haven’t played league since I was 8 years old until the last 6 months. I avg about 175 and just now in this second season I’m getting into it, so I bought this ball.
I’m kinda hating it. Same problems Darren Tang and others are having, I’m also having. I feel like I have to be perfect or I’m either Brooklyn or punching through or I send it out and it never comes back. Guy next to me this morning was practicing with his and said the same. He took it all the way to a 6000 so he could get it down the lane. Pro shop guy, who is one of Hawaii’s best bowlers, said that no one likes it out of the box. I am no exception.
I’m going to take it to 3000 and see how I like it, but as he said in the vid, I think this a specific and unforgiving ball for certain conditions and not even 3 full games, but idk much.
Last thoughts:
- this ball has made me learn a bunch of technical terms and get the lingo down just trying to figure it out, so that’s good I guess haha
- Lastly, I should’ve gotten (and if you’re reading this and newer, you should get) a Phaze 2 instead 🤙🏽
You were bowling exactly the way that ball works. It works great for me. Not a ball for high rev high speed. Lane shine changes it quickly. It's excellent for the house oil spill pattern, I love it. Edit: Gave up using TNT after good first results. Seems like the surface wears out. Ball has so many scars on it. My other balls don't
I’d say that high rev and high speed bowlers could utilize the TNT on a higher volume sport shot easily.
Out of the box it had too much surface for me on a house pattern. Once I got into some oil it looked better but on some wet/dry patterns around 3000 looks best with this particular layout. Thanks for watching!
my buddy throws ab 17.5 and 580 revs and he absolutely shreds with it, He shot 300 with it less than a week after its release and it worked even better once he got some lane shine on it
Couldn’t agree more
I like this content and I like the lane tracking. I think it’s funny when a bowler like Barnes misses one out of twelve and says he doesn’t like the ball or it’s not for him. I think the TNT looked good there.
Thanks for the comment! Yep when I see players moss and blame the ball I find it funny too. Thanks for watching!
This is one of the best videos I've ever seen
Thank you! I appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
More information here then on most channels covering this. Well done
Thank you for that! I appreciate it!
I tried this ball (drilled neutral, I am lefty) at a local Storm demo day rolling 5 strikes in a row. I don't buy into so many of the reviews over-analyzing the ball, the surface and the lane. With everything, there are always variables to take into consideration and one must also be able to adapt, adjust and correct.
Nothing can replace the idol line it's one of the best lines of balls ever made
100%! The idol pearl was the best pearl I’ve ever thrown. So good! Thanks for watching!
@True House Bowler same I still have 2 idol pearls and have had 10+ 300's and like 5 800's with them
100% Idol line was the absolute best, especially Idol Pearl. Out the box when it first came out I went 267,279,300 and immediately bought 6 more to drill a new one every year. Currently have around 12 300’s just with the Idol Pearl and 5 800’s. Right now bag is The Fate, Idol Pearl, Eternity, Zen, Blue Wolverine and Phaze 2.
Keep my 1000 grit Super Nova on back burner for tournaments only lol
I doubt this ball was developed with the house shot bowler in mind. (Low rg, medium dif). However, I was at the US Open and was watching a 2H bowler throw this ball and he had great control of the pocket. Smooth predicable roll.
Hey my name is Johnny Yong I live in Louisiana I bought the TNT I love it but when it was on a demo shot the ball wouldn't hook right cuz they didn't have it set up right but when my friend broke drilled it for me it looks like crazy
Great video… down to Earth and to the point. Definitely had to subscribe.
Thank you! I appreciate that!
I love mine. Great compliment to my Phaze2. If I need something slower and more controllable, I go to this. If I need more back end, I go to the Phaze2.
That sounds like a good arsenal too! Thanks for watching!
I had the same issue that you did when I bowled league with it right out of the box. Soon as it sees friction it jumps left hard.
Thanks for watching!
I just got this ball last week and my average has went up 25 to 30 pins good games so far. TNT is strong. But alot if people loved the Night Rd. I didn't. This ball is a good fit for me. The Hybrid Hammer 2.0 Black Widow I have also havnt drilled it yet.
Lot of the complaints of the ball have been the surface out of the box for some reason isnt absorbing oil how it should. Lotta folks resurface it and it looks 10 times better.
Something wonky has been happening with SPI out of box surfaces lately dull and polished.
100% I think the surface out of the box is way too strong for the core and it just doesn’t match up well. Same thing happened to me on the Eternity video I just filmed. It actually came with reacta gloss and needed some surface to look better. Crazy. Thanks for watching!
I think the numbers are closer on the axiom than the idol but the TNT is like a mix of the axiom and idol
Subscribed. This channel is going to blow up. (Currently under 600 subs)
Thank you! I appreciate that and I hope it does! I’ve put in a lot of work to get this point and I hope everyone is getting something from watching. Thanks so much for subscribing!
I know a lot of people who love it but just like any other ball, some folks will love it while others hate it.
I just got this ball, and at least on my house league shot I’ve loved it. Just have to keep you hand behind the ball.
It’s definitely a better ball than what people are thinking. Thanks for watching!
I got mine at 4000. It behaved very well. Right out of the box I didn’t like the reaction.
4000 like much better then out of box?
my buddy threw 300 with it less than a week after it came out. Hes put about 25 games on it to smooth it out and it hits like an absolute truck. I havent seen anyone else throw it but it rolls amazing for him
💯…it looks good in the video but it’s on a sport pattern. House pattern it looked like garbage until I put some 4K on it. Then it looked so much better. Ironically, the eternity needed surface to make it look better crazy. Lol. Thanks for watching!
Great shot making!!!!
Thank you! Thanks for watching!
I like the channel. Are you only going to be doing Storm/900/Roto balls?
Thank you! I thought about doing other brands like Motive but I don’t really use Motive so maybe if I reviewed something like that I could just give the ball away after filming. What brand are you wanting to see? Thanks again I appreciate it!
@@TrueHouseBowler I throw mostly Brunswick brands because my pro shop owner is staff.
Maybe it works better on house lane conditions and not as good on sport patterns?
I actually found it better on flat patterns as it matched up better for me with surface on it. It was too over/under on our house shot. But our house pattern is extremely wet/dry. I’m going to try to throw it again in league with about 3000 and see how I looks then. Thanks for watching!
What's program you use for your stats. Also do you have a way to to calculate your rev rate
Thank you for your question. It’s called StrikeSeeker. It actually shows a front view, back view, and the ball going through the pins but I trim all that out on the videos just to show the lane and line. So according to Kegel when I went to their camp they said it was 450ish on Specto. But I’ve calculated it with high speed camera and I think I’m around 400-430 depending on how I’m playing the lane. Thanks for watching!
I disagree with the bad reviews. Out of the box, yes it’s very early but once you get it up to 2000 / polish or 4000 it’s much more controllable and has some shape for heavier volumed patterns.
💯 Thanks for watching!
@@TrueHouseBowler I found your review very thorough. I’m impressed so far. I can’t wait to watch some of the previous videos!
just noticed you name do you have lanes in your house?? if so cool af
Unfortunately I do lol. Don’t let it fool you, it can also come with headaches as well 😆 Thanks for watching!
@@TrueHouseBowler if you don’t mind me asking what does that cost a guy?
I don’t mind. I’ve done all the install myself so that helped out. The lanes and pinsetters came from a center that was closing down. They are Brunswick. If you’re asking about my setup that I have like, scoring, StrikeSeeker, high speed cameras, lane machine, spare parts for pinsetter etc…you’re looking at around 100K. Thanks for watching. I appreciate it!
@@TrueHouseBowler thank you very informative. Will continue watching. Really enjoy seeing the Spectre type ball track like you see on TV in these ball videos it’s nice to see the difference between boards if you miss rider miss left and seeing the bar react off of those shots
I went to a ball demo of storm balls picked up the TNT guessed where to start have 157 avg threw a 5 bagger before I missed then left 10 pin went Brooklyn twice liked miss strikes of tnt
Yeah I think this ball will match up with most bowlers if they can find the right surface for them. I think the people that it don’t look good for, need to have some shine to it since out of the box it’s at 2000. Thanks for watching!
Different strokes for different folks. Some balls suit the style of certain people and not the style of others. Some balls are versatile to where they fit many different styles and some are niche. I don't necessary think a ball is bad or the worst ball ever. It's just a niche ball which quite frankly most balls are unless you talk about things like the Venom Shock, Phaze 2, etc...
Thank you for your comment! I agree. Not every ball will look good for everyone. Thanks for watching!
Reminds me of the Zen Master when it was first released, no one liked it, I love my Zen Master and this TNT looks like it may be the perfect replacement for it
Yes a think people don’t realize they can change the surface lol. Zen Master was a decent ball. The biggest bust I got feedback from was the zen soul. It didn’t really look good from a variety of bowlers. I mean, I’m sure some like it, but for the most part, it wasn’t great. Thanks for watching!
They need to bring the wildstreak back
I bowl left handed . I like the tnt when i threw it at the demo i didn't buy it because its the same ball as my zen master it same type of ball as the zen master it makes no sense have two of the same type of balls in my bag
Looks like a good ball to me, 7 strikes in a row, wow! 😂
That doesn’t happen every time I film I assure you 😂 Thanks for watching!
Did a demo day and TNT was a part of the lineup and it did not fit with me….
It definitely didn’t look good to me with the out of the box finish on a house pattern. On flatter patterns it seems to look better. I’m going to try 3000 on it and try it again in league. I think out of the box surface is just too much for house conditions. Thanks for watching!
Very nice lane setup.
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
Wonder just how much ball speed has to do with it? Seems you're just a bit slower? Those others have a hard time taking that much speed off! JMO!
I’m about 18-19 off my hand unless I’m deep left or in front of the ball return. I think the pattern and surface had a lot to do with it. I was a higher volume sport pattern and it looked decent in the video, but in a house pattern it was terrible until I got some shine on it. Then it came alive. I think it’s one of those niche balls. I’ll be doing a video soon of changing the surface on the eternity and TNT, so stay tuned. Thanks for watching!
I bowl around 19-20 mph with this ball and I did not enjoy it. I dropped my speed down to 16/17 mph and I now love this ball.
If TNT is like idol then I'm gonna get the pearl if they make it 😂 my favorite ball idol pearl
Same here! The idol pearl was probably the best pearl I’ve thrown. It was awesome! Thanks for watching!
You selling/giving that ball away let's make a deal
Sort of lol. I’m going to start doing contests and give the balls away that I throw. I’m still figuring what I can do. Thank you for watching!!
TNT is the best ball friends favorite
Just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it's a bad ball.
I don’t think I said it was a bad ball…but they don’t discontinue good balls either 🤷🏽♂️ 😆 Thanks for watching!
Where are you bowling?
Thank you for your question! I have two private lanes at my house and tried to create somewhat of a training/testing center. Thanks for watching!
Talking about getting left on house isn't correct, it all depends. All houses friction is different. I bowl at some houses where its extremely high friction, others soup. Also rev rate/ball speed, example 2 handed bowler you won't find on house shots playing right unless they're using urethane for house, which not many do. Also, the amount of games you bowl. Some are 3 games, some 4, and so on. You also have to factor in the equipment and rev rate and number of people you're bowling with. So pretty inaccurate statement.
Thanks for the comment. You can pull different factors out and say one doesn’t match up or is different from house to house, but for 99% of league bowlers, it’s an accurate statement IMO. Thanks for watching!
Good channel I subscribe
Thank you so much! I appreciate it!
They wouldn’t have released it if it wasn’t any good. No ball matches up with every bowler. And from what I’ve seen if the surface is changed it looks better for those who had initial struggles with it.
I wouldn’t say they wouldn’t have released because they have had some duds over the last few years that were hated by 99% like the hyroad max, hyroad-x, timeless etc. Not every ball will be great like the Phaze II. But yes, everyone should try a surface change before they decide whether they hate the ball or not. Thanks for the watching!
Why does everybody hate on urethane
Usually because they don’t know how to use lol. Thanks for watching!
MOST OF THE OTHER UA-camRS DRILLED THEIRS PIN DOWN...
True. I’ve never matched up well with a pin down symmetrical solid like I do with pin down asymmetrical equipment. Thanks for watching!
I've seen it a few times and the ball doesn't look that great. That ball in the video doesn't look like box condition either, or it has a lot of lane shine. It is usually very dull.
Thank you for the comment! It has about a game of lane shine on it plus a warmup shots before the video. It came at between 1000-1500 out of the box according to the surface scanner even though it supposed to be 2000. I’ve put 4000 on it before league and it looked a lot better on a house shot. I also, put surface on the eternity and it looked better. I just swapped surfaces apparently lol. Thanks for watching!
Ever ball won’t fit every one style it’s not a bad ball. Just not right ball for u
Yep. Some people doesn’t understand that every ball just won’t fit their game or style. It looked good in the video with the surface but on house shot it hooked early and burnt up. I put 4000 and it looked a lot better for a THP. Thanks for watching!
Idk who needs to hear this but the hyroad Maxx is the worst ball ever made by storm.
Hy road solid far worse
Nope...you didn't miss.
I warmed up before filming and remember leaving a ten pin and stone 9. But I couldn’t remember if that was during filming lol. Thanks for watching! I appreciate it!
Worst ball ever nope. The Katana dragon.
Or anything motive 😂 Joke. Thanks for watching!!
Most people hated the Katana Dragon. I am one of the few that got the ball to really hook like advertised.
i was looking up golf balls my guy
And yet UA-cam really knew you wanted to see a bowling ball review 😆