Does Great Art Require Suffering? David Choe on The Rich Roll Podcast

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  • Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
  • Rich Roll sits down with artist David Choe to discuss his wild life story and share thoughts on addiction, sobriety, creativity, and the journey to self-love. To read more about David and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll626
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    00:00:00 - Introduction
    00:02:31 - Struggling with Feeling Less Than
    00:11:13 - David's Story About Graffiti
    00:16:57 - Feeling Enough with Art
    00:25:55 - Asking for Permission
    00:34:33 - Understanding Trauma from Our Parents
    00:35:47 - Voicing Change
    00:36:46 - Back to the Podcast
    00:39:34 - The Podcasting Workaholic
    00:45:54 - The Mistake of Thinking that "Great Pain = Great Art"
    00:50:47 - Taking a Year Off
    00:54:15 - David's OCD & Stealing
    00:59:08 - David's Addiction to Gambling
    01:12:34 - Getting Out While You're Ahead & Friendship
    01:20:59 - Deciding to Be in Recovery
    01:24:13 - What David's Recovery Looks Like
    01:30:25 - The Loss of a Friend to Overdose
    01:37:08 - Anonymity. Protection from Shame.
    01:43:32 - Training Loved Ones to Respect Boundaries
    01:55:30 - The Choe Show
    02:20:14 - Last Hurdle of Getting Over Being a Workaholic
    02:30:47 - Last Words for the One Who Silently Struggles
    02:35:57 - Closing Remarks
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  • @0oMag
    @0oMag 2 роки тому +398

    Every time Dave does a pod, it's a therapy session for him, and also for me.

    • @craigcampbell765
      @craigcampbell765 2 роки тому +9

      Same...somehow helps me learn more about myself

    • @papichulo9282
      @papichulo9282 2 роки тому +1

      My name is khan and I'm not a terrorist

    • @jamesday2775
      @jamesday2775 2 роки тому +2

      Well said hes very impactful. Im abit newer to him but woah hes great imo

    • @Shtriga_34
      @Shtriga_34 2 роки тому +3

      This is the second podcast that ive seen of his. I loved the one on joe rogan but seeing this one just made me see the reality.
      I dont think hes bad per say but defntly makes up alot of stuff for attention. I just read that hes a pathological liar which i kept thinking while watching the podcast as ive known someone who was one. Also hes been diagnosed with sociopathy, i think you should take wt he says with a grain of salt. Im definItely not going to watch anymore of his stuff.

    • @ZickPranks
      @ZickPranks Рік тому +1

      Its by design sheep

  • @jamesmanriquez3493
    @jamesmanriquez3493 2 роки тому +453

    "and beneath it all is this child who is deeply sensitive and naturally very empathetic who has trouble processing all the emotional stimuli that the world is throwing at him, compensates for that through all manor of behavior and creating all kinds of chaos. Only to return to this place where he has to heal himself so that he can embrace his natural tendency toward empathy and celebrate his sensitivity" rich roll always with the perfectly articulated wisdom

    • @joshrich6814
      @joshrich6814 2 роки тому +8

      Beautiful

    • @zymusic9346
      @zymusic9346 2 роки тому

      Sounds like a bunch of commie gobbledygook

    • @kona-fl7fl
      @kona-fl7fl 2 роки тому +1

      @@zymusic9346 I find it odd that you feel it hits you that way, what about that do you think gave you that impression?

    • @davidjohnson-hg4cf
      @davidjohnson-hg4cf 2 роки тому

      My friends name is Tyler Chris Auer. He is that sensitive empath u speak of and he still lives.

    • @omaralanezi5160
      @omaralanezi5160 2 роки тому

      Syssysysssysssysyesusssssysssu

  • @Runnersronin6
    @Runnersronin6 4 місяці тому +6

    Riches meaning of why he runs reminded me of the qoute from Haruki Murakami" By physically running I can exhaust that portion of my discontent. It also makes me realize again how weak I am. How limited are my abilities are. I become aware physically of these low points.
    And one of the results of running that much further ~ I become a little stronger. "

  • @lwandie260
    @lwandie260 2 роки тому +859

    There's a level of radical honesty that Dave brings to the table that is unlike anything else I've ever experienced. He bears the messiness of what it's like to be human so openly. He has lived such a narly life, it's crazy. I'm grateful to him for sharing his story and to Rich for having him on.

    • @waynemethsky
      @waynemethsky 2 роки тому +13

      He talks a lot. That’s all I can say about him.

    • @Victor-ul4qq
      @Victor-ul4qq 2 роки тому +7

      Dave ran so we can fly ❤️

    • @b_i_l_l_w_i_l_l_i_a_m_s_o_n
      @b_i_l_l_w_i_l_l_i_a_m_s_o_n 2 роки тому +46

      @@waynemethsky next time just say nothing

    • @waynemethsky
      @waynemethsky 2 роки тому +7

      @@b_i_l_l_w_i_l_l_i_a_m_s_o_n i think he's great but he creates problems by believing pseudo-intellectual nonsense. he's extra. like just chill dude. say less

    • @b_i_l_l_w_i_l_l_i_a_m_s_o_n
      @b_i_l_l_w_i_l_l_i_a_m_s_o_n 2 роки тому +24

      @@waynemethsky I’m sure that he needs you there to tell him what or how much he should or shouldn’t say. Like I said in my original comment, you should say less

  • @uzisworld2394
    @uzisworld2394 2 роки тому +459

    Growing up Korean-American with a super religious mom who won't respect boundaries, having unconventional addiction issues, having trouble validating childhood abuse, struggling with intrinsic shame, I thought I was alone in this struggle. Thanks David Choe, for not giving a fuck and being yourself. Not even my therapist can help me recognize and acknowledge my traumas as abuse, but hearing it from someone else who lived such a similar experience is helping me address these wounds more than therapy can.

    • @sofresh37
      @sofresh37 2 роки тому +19

      I love your comment. I emigrated here from SW Africa. Super religious authoritarian parents, childhood trauma, struggled with addiction… same. This was good for my soul. His voice and his authenticity. Just gold. 💛

    • @Chayzification
      @Chayzification 2 роки тому +9

      Same here, but Korean-Australian. You're not alone. That Tigerbelly ep.300 changed something inside of me. Watch that if you haven't already

    • @forgethehype
      @forgethehype 2 роки тому +4

      felt this to the mf core. you’re not alone

    • @paullee5702
      @paullee5702 2 роки тому +8

      Korean-American [check]
      Mom who won't respect boundaries [check]
      Abusive father [check]
      Unconventional addiction issues [maybe-not-so-much]
      Hey man, hugs from one Korean-American to another !

    • @ganktuh
      @ganktuh 2 роки тому +8

      im kim chi too and all this shit about his childhood is some typical korean stuff. it goes deeper than his parents. they probably went thru way worse as children.

  • @watermonsters1810
    @watermonsters1810 2 роки тому +11

    "All addictions are gambling addictions," I've never thought of it that way but that's so true.

  • @fujidenzo_kid4147
    @fujidenzo_kid4147 2 роки тому +106

    I still remember David in JRE, him crying about Bourdain will forever be in my mind.

    • @hughiedavies6069
      @hughiedavies6069 Рік тому

      Why ? Because he showed a little emotion publicly, ? Or because he expressed something similar to what you felt?
      I'm not criticising you, I just wondered why it will always stay with you?... By the way I. really liked Anthony Bourdain, and I've had suicide in my family and my head, many attempts. But I just wondered why that would stay with you?( I've seen it)

    • @JulioEuropePharmaVendor
      @JulioEuropePharmaVendor 2 місяці тому +1

      I think it was a bit pitiful. They weren’t that close.

    • @Lazar819.
      @Lazar819. Місяць тому +4

      @@JulioEuropePharmaVendor you've been sippin too much of that tussipax
      ua-cam.com/video/j7T6__UbhBI/v-deo.html
      bourdain was reppin choe day 1 as a new upcoming personality and reached out to choe days before he abruptly took his own life. Now, with that in mind, this does not conclusively prove their relationship was intimate... but.. to have someone admit their serious state of deppresion days before they commit suicide can leave a person with serious survivor's guilt. If i would have, if i just... That is a strong visceral emotion to hold repress and/or live with, I'd even argue that a person who did not shed some sort of tear from a situation similar to this suffers from some form of antisocial personality disorder.

    • @JulioEuropePharmaVendor
      @JulioEuropePharmaVendor Місяць тому +4

      @@Lazar819. ok i didn’t know that because i couldn’t find really something about them two together and yeah maybe I was on Oxy. I love Choe. Dumb comment on my side

    • @SpacyMidnight
      @SpacyMidnight 17 днів тому

      That’s the same guy!?

  • @IDontLikePplPlayinOnMyPhone
    @IDontLikePplPlayinOnMyPhone 5 місяців тому +4

    I’ve never heard anyone else articulate the way they self sabotaged with the hopes of it causes self destruction by proxy before. I’m grateful af to hear this.

  • @lewis1180
    @lewis1180 2 роки тому +34

    Having DAVID CHOE and GABOR MATE on the same podcast would be EPIC; the honesty of David combined with the knowledge of GABOR!

    • @roypaz5331
      @roypaz5331 2 роки тому +2

      Wow I'd pay good money to see that

    • @lewis1180
      @lewis1180 2 роки тому

      @@roypaz5331 Me too. Some PAY PER VIEW type of thing.

  • @juanpadilla3203
    @juanpadilla3203 2 роки тому +139

    David Choe makes every podcast episode he’s on, the best episode of whatever show he was on.

    • @garysanders2008
      @garysanders2008 2 роки тому +4

      i agree 1000 percent

    • @richiecuna5781
      @richiecuna5781 Рік тому +3

      reason i really like joe rogan is cause of this kind of person being on his show

    • @RyKoMedia
      @RyKoMedia 11 місяців тому

      @@richiecuna5781 Yea esp where he talks about raping a chick

    • @CrabbyPattydelight
      @CrabbyPattydelight 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@RyKoMediayes and Joe likes horse meat, tom green needs to get on there

  • @CallumWarrenArt
    @CallumWarrenArt 2 роки тому +168

    I could just listen to Dave talk all day. He is so genuine.

    • @Jess-xl1wd
      @Jess-xl1wd 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly! I've been watching so many hours of his interviews the last few days. I love his perspective. It's epic!

  • @TheShubLub
    @TheShubLub 2 роки тому +18

    01:43:32 - Training Loved Ones to Respect Boundaries
    Is one of the best sections.

  • @raphaelgabriel9815
    @raphaelgabriel9815 2 роки тому +39

    this podcast in my feed is like Christmas

  • @Jed800
    @Jed800 2 роки тому +8

    David Choe always reminds me of what a genuine person looks like

  • @risk19l
    @risk19l 2 роки тому +2

    I love hearing David Choe talk. Especially when he's abruptly interrupted by an interviewer while he's in the middle of telling his story. Doesn't pull me out of the scene at all.

  • @jamesoconnor9452
    @jamesoconnor9452 2 роки тому +143

    “Every addiction is a gambling addiction.” Profound. David could also be a writer if he wanted to.

    • @28gold28
      @28gold28 2 роки тому +1

      1:08:10

    • @DanHunterSportsWriter
      @DanHunterSportsWriter 2 роки тому +4

      Don't agree with that at all. Way to general. People who drink or take drugs are addicted to booze and narcotics, not the thrill of gambling. Taking resulting risks like driving drunk is not what they are addicted to. The gambler is addicted to the risk of the bet. Very different.

    • @mrgrandtheftauto8992
      @mrgrandtheftauto8992 2 роки тому +2

      @@DanHunterSportsWriter who….
      Asked

    • @DanHunterSportsWriter
      @DanHunterSportsWriter 2 роки тому

      @@mrgrandtheftauto8992 who... Asked. cryptic

    • @calebhatcher5789
      @calebhatcher5789 2 роки тому +8

      @@DanHunterSportsWriterhe’s not saying it in a away that means all addicts have a drive for adrenaline and choose to do drugs or alcohol to create a sense of danger, but being an addict means you know what your addicted to has the ability to destroy you but your brain can’t stop. You can’t help to fight the risk vs reward.

  • @shawnwasabi
    @shawnwasabi 2 роки тому +68

    thank you david choe

  • @shotcalla187
    @shotcalla187 2 роки тому +17

    Came for David Choe, stayed and subscribed for a solid, well-spoken host.

  • @missmyoldhandle24
    @missmyoldhandle24 2 роки тому +92

    also, I've been a PTSD therapist for the last 15 years and this is one of the greatest conversations I've ever heard. I ended up sending it to many of my clients and it them benefited as well. Thank you #DavidChoe. I know you will not see this...but you are truly amazing

    • @chuanjiang8797
      @chuanjiang8797 Рік тому +1

      im looking for someone to tlak to about my issues

    • @NASkeywest
      @NASkeywest Рік тому +1

      @@chuanjiang8797 there are therapist and doctors everywhere

    • @CrabbyPattydelight
      @CrabbyPattydelight 7 місяців тому

      ​@@NASkeywestyes and expensive as hell, and they just teach you to rearrange the furniture in your prison cell, instead of healing the trauma, life got better quiting therapy, there's better solutions to whatever ails you

  • @ak5258
    @ak5258 2 роки тому +6

    as an indian listening to this especially how he described his relationship with his mom is cathartic to me

  • @richroll
    @richroll  2 роки тому +120

    I'm pretty excited about this one -- hope you are too. To read more, check the show notes, etc.👉🏽bit.ly/richroll626

    • @lohrss
      @lohrss 2 роки тому +5

      This was powerful...

    • @slowdownadventures
      @slowdownadventures 2 роки тому +6

      This was out of this world. One of your best episodes... Just WOW.

    • @nickverduyn7723
      @nickverduyn7723 2 роки тому +2

      Hi Rich, did something go wrong at 1:07:46 with the editing or did you choose to cut something out? Loving this episode, its epic..

    • @philiphodgesnz
      @philiphodgesnz 2 роки тому +3

      I wouldn’t have thought you’d have David as a guest - stoked to find this - great work!

    • @BountifulGardens
      @BountifulGardens 2 роки тому +2

      Great interview. Please don't take a year off!!

  • @jaredgoldman939
    @jaredgoldman939 2 роки тому +105

    Wow. I am blown away. That is by far one of the most powerful podcasts in a long time. 🙏

    • @jasonmarietta2101
      @jasonmarietta2101 2 роки тому +3

      Listen to the Rabbi Finley one if you haven't. Dave and Rabbi Finley are an epic 1 2 punch for me.

  • @joshrich6814
    @joshrich6814 2 роки тому +32

    I can't explain how much love I have in my heart for David choe

  • @JB-su7lm
    @JB-su7lm 2 роки тому +2

    I gave David Choe an Uber ride back in the day. Cool people. True story.

  • @Ipoetize
    @Ipoetize Рік тому +9

    Rich, This is my first episode of this podcast and I found it to be beyond real raw and relevant. I cried 4 times not because David was paused by the whelm of his emotions, but by how that whelm allowed him to be more revealing, more open, more vulnerable, which allowed me to see myself in his inner reflection. You both have my respect, my thanks, and I salute you both.

  • @DB-rb9pd
    @DB-rb9pd 2 роки тому +8

    this is the deepest, most important episode you’ve ever had.

  • @matthewclarke-venters1303
    @matthewclarke-venters1303 2 роки тому +36

    David is right. If Rich took six months off, he wouldn't lose one fan. Not one. I've been on a Rich Roll Podcast listening hiatus for a while now, but it's so worth it to return to this conversation today. I'll always be a Rich Roll fan.

    • @juanafgutierrez
      @juanafgutierrez 2 роки тому

      I'm an addict, I go on hiatus and then I binge on Rich Roll

  • @AnandChafekar
    @AnandChafekar 2 роки тому +2

    The Higher power works through everyone who surrenders to it. I felt his moment, deeply and felt connected to his experience. ( don't know who is cutting onions )

  • @Origamibeats
    @Origamibeats 2 роки тому +215

    Woah this one is hitting

    • @avonnabors
      @avonnabors 2 роки тому +13

      Choe is a top 5 podcast guest of all time.

    • @eliotglas8169
      @eliotglas8169 2 роки тому +3

      You been a goat producer for years

    • @jbasti227
      @jbasti227 2 роки тому +4

      @@avonnabors Fr first I saw him was his appearance on JRE and ever since, he’s been one of my favorites. I enjoy hearing his story and insight.

  • @redbull9554
    @redbull9554 2 роки тому +4

    My father was never vulnerable, he was religious, domineering, always right, always got the last word. I’m glad he died 24 years ago. He fathered me through fear, shame, intimidation, etc. the stuff he put on me hurt me for years! Thank you David for being vulnerable and truthful

    • @michaelfinley4440
      @michaelfinley4440 Рік тому +1

      I totally understand this. Most people won't I think. I cant WIAt for my fucked up evil mother to die. Evil seems to get extra years tho.

  • @darianbroadhead2863
    @darianbroadhead2863 2 роки тому +57

    Turned this on for my long run this morning and did not expect such an incredible episode. Didn’t know a thing about David up until this morning and am so happy I pressed play.

  • @rjc98
    @rjc98 2 роки тому +55

    Years ago, the first 2 podcasts I listened to seriously were RRP and DVDASA. Couldn’t be more different and wow, now seeing Rich and David together. My mind is blown!

    • @_BASIC_INSTINCT
      @_BASIC_INSTINCT 2 роки тому +6

      exactly the same for me. could not even believe this happened. so grateful to even hear this

    • @sekain15
      @sekain15 2 роки тому +5

    • @roblincoln10
      @roblincoln10 2 роки тому +2

      Same, this is on a different level than the Rogan podcast I listened to. This chemistry is something else.

    • @burningknuckle26
      @burningknuckle26 2 роки тому +10

      people dont know how amazing DVDASA truly was. there will never be a podcast like it. i miss it and would love to listen to it again

  • @marciano3258
    @marciano3258 2 роки тому +16

    I can feel the emotions in every story David tells it’s heavy

  • @algemeenaccount7531
    @algemeenaccount7531 2 роки тому +7

    Rich, if you ever take those 6 (of more) months off, just know we'll be here whenever you come back ✌🏻🌿

  • @lancesudberry209
    @lancesudberry209 21 день тому +1

    Self worth is a struggle i have the most then my own style that stands out and qualities in timeless pieces.

  • @whyyynotttt
    @whyyynotttt 2 роки тому +28

    I use to listen to Dave to hype me up like that Soundgarden song. Now he makes me tear up and look inward. Thanks for this.

    • @ttenger6182
      @ttenger6182 2 роки тому

      Amazing

    • @GOD999MODE
      @GOD999MODE 2 роки тому

      Probably because he’s done a lot of psychedelics.

  • @rameshganesh2696
    @rameshganesh2696 2 роки тому +29

    I have been a listener of Rich for over 2 years now, and have been motivated in more ways than once to change my life for the better because of the guests you've had...but David Choe's honesty and Rich's honest perspective on David's life has genuinely changed my outlook on life. I'm not strange...I'm myself and can do better in my own way...

  • @umrahsaleh2089
    @umrahsaleh2089 2 роки тому +8

    This conversation reminded me so much of the 1976 movie Network. David is speaking of many of the same themes of eliminating the mediator - the tv or media and living life on his terms - So interesting to see the parallels. Great dialogue.

  • @drewlsy
    @drewlsy Рік тому +2

    "Creativity is God", Dave Choe has ascended the physical plane as we know it, where which he doesn't need to compromise himself anymore for corporate gain or superficial fame. He craves only realness with himself and with others. I applaud him for the years of work and self-reflection he has put in to get himself to this point.

  • @Mmmmkaaay
    @Mmmmkaaay Рік тому +10

    There's nothing more interesting than an artist in recovery who is willing to be honest.
    Great chat!

    • @BusinessWolf1
      @BusinessWolf1 Рік тому

      no, there's a shit ton of things more interesting

    • @Mmmmkaaay
      @Mmmmkaaay Рік тому

      @@BusinessWolf1 Like what? Xbox?🙄🤮

  • @ArtByHazel
    @ArtByHazel 2 роки тому +7

    I can totally resonate with David's story because growing up Asian, personally, it takes a lot of guts to keep the difficult stuff that we never talked or shared about for fear of shame, guilt, and fear of judgment. Knowing what I know now and healing my inner child helped me positively become the person who can share my own wisdom from alchemizing my own pain.
    Creativity is God co-creating through my wild child imagination. Phew! A good watch from start to finish. Thanks Rich and Dave!
    May all beings know that we are all love beyond, fear, ego, and old messed up childhood beliefs. We are pure Consciousness who is watching all this time.
    May we show up with love now more than ever.

  • @dylannelson501
    @dylannelson501 2 роки тому +20

    You are a goddam national treasure David Choe, thank you for being David Choe. Incredible work Rich, inarguably one of your finest interviews. So much gold in here, and so different from other Choe interviews

  • @XanderShiller
    @XanderShiller 2 роки тому +3

    Please don't censor yourself David!
    All your stories need every one of your words. You're inspiring and i hope u realize how awesome you are to listen to and learn from.

  • @postrock12
    @postrock12 18 годин тому

    It’s really interesting seeing someone talk about addiction that isn’t full on drugs

  • @bradedwards5956
    @bradedwards5956 2 роки тому +7

    I love Dave asking Rich if theres anything he's struggling with today. Always love listening to Daves openness and vulnerability. We need more of this in the world.

  • @solegonz762
    @solegonz762 Рік тому +3

    Glad to hear David Choe is married. Heard David now has a baby. Hope this new chapter -of being a parent is blessed.

  • @Beyondhumanlimits1
    @Beyondhumanlimits1 Рік тому +1

    Wow the idea about how every addiction is a gambling addiction is amazing

  • @bm4680
    @bm4680 2 роки тому +4

    I hope David's mom is watching the interview. David is refreshingly honest! Kudos for setting boundaries with your mom, it takes ball.

  • @skepticsanalysis528
    @skepticsanalysis528 2 роки тому +3

    I have dreadful PTSD and anxiety. This man reminds me to stay strong…

  • @ahernc94
    @ahernc94 2 роки тому +9

    I learn something new about myself every time I hear David speak, he really is an incredible human being.

  • @annedanielarodgers8830
    @annedanielarodgers8830 2 роки тому +10

    Mother wound, there’s so much shame around it. As you cannot stand for yourself fully, it’s not appropriate, then instead you start hurting yourself.
    Thank you Dave for being so open about this tabu and thank you Rich for creating a safe environment for an experience to be exposed 🙏❤️🙏

  • @MichaelUnbroken
    @MichaelUnbroken 2 роки тому +26

    I think people who really pay attention to this episode will understand something powerful... We all battle the voices in our heads and sometimes were succumb and sometimes we overcome

  • @matthewjamesmiller
    @matthewjamesmiller 2 роки тому +18

    This was an unexpected but welcomed conversation. I've followed David for well over a decade and to see his transformation here is wonderful. I am so glad he is in this place where he wants to connect and bare his soul and help other men do the same.

  • @floxendoodle942
    @floxendoodle942 2 роки тому +36

    Absolutely loved this podcast where you were talking my language: recovery, shame, boundaries, 12-steps, etc.. It left me feeling so understood! And, Rich . . . You are an amazing interviewer! Your ability to understand and “reflect back” to your guests what they just communicated to you is off the charts! I wish that every woman on the planet had a husband who could talk to them and listen like you do! 🤔

  • @hnttakata713
    @hnttakata713 2 роки тому +1

    Going against the flow is always difficult until we realize to be in the flow, is where inner peace happens. Oh, beautiful human, David.

  • @stephenseed5015
    @stephenseed5015 2 роки тому +3

    I love David's art, and his show ,need more shows. I'm an artist that privately suffers.

  • @AnnAndNala
    @AnnAndNala 2 роки тому +12

    Thank you for having David Choe on as your guest. His real and authentic message today resonated with me deeply. Having suffered through a mental breakdown in early 2020 (before the pandemic hit), I've started from ground zero and finally began to evaluate my life at the ripe age of 50-something, and now focus on centering my life with self-love.

  • @Jess-xl1wd
    @Jess-xl1wd 2 роки тому +4

    My husband says , is this a 10 hr interview? I'm like no. It's just the 4th one I've watched with David Choe in the past few days. I absolutely love listening to him. I have not heard of him before. And boom! I align so much with him. Thank you so much Mr. Choe. For sharing so much of your life. I love your insight and perspective.

  • @rickjan5468
    @rickjan5468 2 роки тому +48

    Amazing, two of the most inspiring people I've ever listened to are now face-to-face with one another. Although very different in persona, I see so many similarities between Rich and David, especially in their desire to truly connect with people. Thanks both.

    • @lwandie260
      @lwandie260 2 роки тому +4

      I hope you have/can listen to the podcast Dave did with Joe Rogan. I teared up many times in that Pod.

  • @simonsays525
    @simonsays525 2 роки тому +13

    I love David. He’s real and being real is what we need. We don’t need more people trying to be other people.

  • @MelodyProsser
    @MelodyProsser 2 роки тому +46

    These are the kinds f conversations that connect us and the kind of conversation I crave! Thank you both!

  • @kelenl5033
    @kelenl5033 2 роки тому +3

    I just discovered David Cho and I want to be his bro. Lol. I relate to his Authenticity. I was born after Korean war, I seen what people went through to survive as a young child. What trauma my single mom had to go through. How this spill over to me. Healing is possible when there is great empathy toward our flawed parents who did their best.

  • @chrollo__5715
    @chrollo__5715 2 роки тому +2

    I’ve found David on joe rogan’s podcast and I’m obsessed! this man is a genius!! The way he speaks honestly inspires me.

  • @isabellegagnon8042
    @isabellegagnon8042 2 роки тому +3

    “Persons with severe addictions are among contemporary prophets that we ignore to our own demise, for they show us who we truly are.” K. Dunnington ~ Thanks Rich for another great one! ✌️

    • @Teabonesteak
      @Teabonesteak 2 роки тому

      Yeah, nothing leads the way like a gakked-out crackhead.

  • @rizzomatt
    @rizzomatt 2 роки тому +10

    I’ve heard David interviewed many times. I learn something new every time. Great job Rich!

  • @soybeans8139
    @soybeans8139 2 роки тому +36

    This was really enlightening and difficult to listen to at times. Thank you both.

  • @driyagoubareva2683
    @driyagoubareva2683 Рік тому +1

    I became addicted to listening to David talk, he is so real, so genuine, so honest and even humble. His presence and voice are captivating. I have caught myself searching for anything where I can hear him speak. I can relate with his experiences on many levels and he has helped me face my own demons. He has mentioned to Steve O that he gets very nerveous doing podcasts, so thank you David for facing your fears and opening your soul to us! You are a very interesting human being and it is a pleasure learning about your life, your struggles and how you've grown. I'm glad you got your riches, you deserve it!

  • @mattblah7737
    @mattblah7737 2 роки тому +1

    Lol Yoshi's assessment was spot on

  • @kathleenkulp240
    @kathleenkulp240 2 роки тому +14

    Thank you to both of you for your amazing devotion to being raw and honest, humble and committed to truly showing up as you are. Such a wonderful and insightful discussion, and very hopeful for those of us struggling to find that balance. And I can tell you, Rich, that if you took that 6 months off, I for one would be cheering you on, and watching for your return.

  • @pyztni
    @pyztni 2 роки тому +25

    I loved seeing them challenging each other, and ACTUALLY considering it! One of the best episodes I’ve watched 💛

    • @loverainodie
      @loverainodie 2 роки тому +1

      It's nice to hear a real two way conversation ey - refreshing

    • @thesalsalady5717
      @thesalsalady5717 2 роки тому

      You should see him on joe rogans and on tiger belly

  • @bleblo8585
    @bleblo8585 2 роки тому +1

    "ill hurt myself just to keep others entertained" that's extremely deep to any "real" artist. the fact that he says he wanted the pain and didnt want to take pills or get help to remain great at his art speaks insane waves and makes me feel weird as I am the same way. wow.

  • @stendaalcartography3436
    @stendaalcartography3436 Рік тому +1

    Also Korean American here. I resonated a lot. I too stole petty things, things people wouldn't miss or notice for a while. I don't know, I also felt righteous then. I haven't stole outside teenage years either. I drank and smoked since early. I was angry boi, looking for excuses to blow up. drugs too. I too had gambling phase. I liked the feeling of losing money. Because I was poor money meant a lot, so to lose it felt good because it resonated it how I actually felt but couldn't articulate since I avoided my shadow as much as I could. I wouldn't make that association for years. I also do art, but every time I went to go sell it or someone offered to buy, I was crushed with low self worth and I refused the sales. I tried to become artist but I became art collector. I too have shame that follows me and shows up unannounced. I never been diagnosed because I prefer no windows in my spaceship as it weakens structural integrity of the ship.
    I've been making a comeback to the surface but with advent of AI, I wonder if it even matters anymore.

  • @lynn9935
    @lynn9935 2 роки тому +10

    With every podcast, my admiration for Rich grows. A phenomenal conversation. Thank you.

  • @saraconner5063
    @saraconner5063 2 роки тому +19

    I'm always blown away by the range of interviews on this podcast but this one was in a world of its own. Brilliant, thoughtful, empathetic, and enriching dialogue between the two of you. Can't wait to hear how the challenge at the end unfolds! Thank you!

  • @PARADOX-lf9xc
    @PARADOX-lf9xc 2 роки тому +1

    If u been or going thru real shit in life on your own... U know this conversation means so much to hear...

  • @professionalcommenter5
    @professionalcommenter5 Рік тому +1

    For those who do not know, DVDASA is podcast gold. In my world DVDASA will forever be best best podcast in the history of podcasts

    • @cool.guy777
      @cool.guy777 Рік тому

      it changed my life during my late teens/early 20's.

  • @BrotherCam
    @BrotherCam Рік тому +3

    34:06 Wow dude this hit me in my sou... I am so relieved to know that I'm not the only one who self-consciously feels like this 24/7 💔💔💔💯

  • @abbiegermain8516
    @abbiegermain8516 2 роки тому +4

    This was absolutely unbelievably amazing to listen to Rich. Thank you so much for allowing us to see such a vulnerable, raw side of David Choe. Your presence is so calming and you held such a judgement-free zone for David to be in. I'm so grateful for David's brutal honesty and was also shocked at how much I could relate to him at times. I am beyond grateful for this conversation as I'm sure none of that was easy to open up about. Thank you both

  • @willcollins5660
    @willcollins5660 2 роки тому +1

    Mr. Choe is an open book. You did not have to share, but yet you still share the good and bad. Thank you for everything Mr. Choe.

  • @Pugetwitch
    @Pugetwitch 2 роки тому +2

    I have tattoos by David show, AKA invisible hour up here in seattle. He's another prolific artist - and even though he might not be "trending" like this David is, he has still made it an incredible impact in the lives of everybody he knows up here. He has over a million photos of Seattle nightlife taking between 2000 and 2021.

  • @mia_f
    @mia_f 2 роки тому +3

    David - I’m so grateful for your voice. I’ve had similar experiences to you (a tenth of it) and you’re so honest about your shame, it really resonates with me. Thanks 🙏

  • @brandond40
    @brandond40 2 роки тому +13

    I love David Choe. His transparency feels therapeutic. I love listening to him reflect on his ups & downs throughout his life, and work things out from his head within conversation. Thank you for everything man

  • @kayleecaresyoga3350
    @kayleecaresyoga3350 2 роки тому +1

    “In our society it’s more okay to kill yourself than to ask for help.” Wow. What a line. We need need need people it’s okay to have vulnerablities. It’s the one thing we all have in common is that we are all only human.

  • @abiallu1847
    @abiallu1847 2 роки тому +2

    So refreshing listening to David choe, such a gentle soul

  • @cathie223
    @cathie223 2 роки тому +15

    Such a highly-informative conversation that gives us a raw real-talk lens to gain understanding. Thank you.

  • @lmbranco
    @lmbranco 2 роки тому +4

    Amazingly honest talk, so many emotions going around, loved it. Thank you Dave and Rich for sharing this with us.

  • @cool.guy777
    @cool.guy777 Рік тому

    daves like the middle brother i never had. wish i had someone like dave in my day to day life. what a great guy, he has changed my life more than anyone i know in person. such an inspiration, i love you dave!

  • @MrDBcooper77
    @MrDBcooper77 Місяць тому

    David reminds us that it’s ok being yourself…with all our fuck ups…slip ups….most ugly moments….at the end of the day…it’s growth..

  • @iamkerenlouise
    @iamkerenlouise 2 роки тому +12

    deep. seriously so deep and provocative..I had to take the time to process the nuggets of wisdom from two brilliant guys.

  • @YourSmilingWhen
    @YourSmilingWhen 2 роки тому +21

    I really think David would benefit from training for a marathon - it scared him enough and would be a healthy challenge.

  • @_ped_
    @_ped_ 2 роки тому +2

    This was one of the best podcast interview I've ever listened to. Been a fan of David Choe for over a decade, and it's nice to see him like this.

  • @srijanagurungshrestha4660
    @srijanagurungshrestha4660 Рік тому +1

    I keep coming back to this podcast. One of the best podcasts regarding rawness, authenticity, and understanding yourself.

  • @HeidiDream
    @HeidiDream 2 роки тому +4

    I think the struggle of being Korean-Hispanic-American for me was the amount of confusion, pull, shame, addiction, abuse, toxicity you grow up in. Not to mention how Koreans and Hispanics were so racist to one another. Then you hit a place of no identity with over identifying. These challenges def. manifested in so many ways but I have to say the day I woke up was the day I got saved. So it's nice to hear other mixed cultural individuals sharing their stories. We are the change that bring about the new future, One heart !

    • @XanderShiller
      @XanderShiller 2 роки тому +1

      I almost accused you of plagiarizing, but then I see u said "one heart" and I say "1mind.".
      I also went through and still facing my identity as a Jew, born in the former Soviet Union (they weren't fond of Jews..surprise) and I did half of growing up there, then the rest of my life here..although when we settled near Coney Island..the entire community was full of Russian Jews..some religious, others secular at diff levels but communism stunted religion n made it illegal so most of our parents were secular/atheists and couldn't fully explain what a jew is, why we're leaving there and going here..the adjustment disorder of parents could very easily amplify the process for their kids..

  • @karensams994
    @karensams994 2 роки тому +41

    Rich is the only person that can get away with these super deep conversations. Everyone else comes off as super corny.

    • @bassmanoper6659
      @bassmanoper6659 2 роки тому +4

      He comes off corny tho, maybe its a culture thing

    • @zaneberry
      @zaneberry 2 роки тому +2

      Duncan Trussel is pretty great at it

    • @s0ne01
      @s0ne01 2 роки тому +2

      @@bassmanoper6659 does he?

  • @dabberdan3200
    @dabberdan3200 Рік тому +1

    “I didn’t be a vandal to follow more rules.”
    David Cho

  • @Benny.cm_2.0
    @Benny.cm_2.0 2 роки тому +1

    I love you David choe keep just being who you are. Truly an incredible mind.

  • @wowwowmatt
    @wowwowmatt 2 роки тому +4

    I just discovered David Choe while watching old JRE then I watched wild rides podcast with him and now yours.( Your podcast is great and I subscribed) David’s honesty is inspiring, he’s fearfully fearless in a way I would like to be. I’d like to tell him, he helped me and thank you.

  • @suzannemacpherson8267
    @suzannemacpherson8267 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you both for your realness..so amazing to be able to share this interview with my adult sons. You both offer a way forward and a vulnerability that they need to see...they dont have role models like these in their lives that i am aware of...thank you for being that and so much more...just thank you...much love and gratitude...🙏🙏🙏

  • @FuzzyDunlopification
    @FuzzyDunlopification 2 роки тому

    I've always heard of David but never really listened to him before. Wow... I've never FELT so much before at such a constant rate by just listening to someone. Amazing stories.

  • @AndrewPotterton
    @AndrewPotterton 2 роки тому +1

    That last bit is funny, out challenging each other...so masculine. After all the feelings and honesty....great stuff all round. Love these two men.