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    0:00-1:21 Tip Stalls?
    1:21-2:26 Tailwheel FORWARD Pressure
    2:26-4:22 Impossible Turn?
    4:22-5:34 Technique vs. Procedure
    5:34-5:57 Pinching vs. Thumbs
    5:57-6:33 Balsa vs. Foam
    6:33-7:29 Crashing = Good?
    7:29-8:15 Battery C Rating Lies
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  • @kiowafourty964
    @kiowafourty964 Рік тому +21

    That landing with the FW-190 at the end was just beautiful ❤️❤️❤️

  • @mightyeighthmodels
    @mightyeighthmodels Рік тому +80

    Met a lot of arm chair pilots at our field. For perspective, I’m 15 and don’t get nearly enough flight time. However, learning from your mistakes is extremely important. Before a few months ago, I had always had bad luck with planes and let me tell you, I have improved more in the last few months than the last few years. Always learn and admit to your mistakes. Don’t let old dudes get you down.
    Edit: not all old dudes are bad. You should listen. Some of them are wells of knowledge

    • @maybejoshh1907
      @maybejoshh1907 Рік тому +5

      Same boat, ride on homie

    • @jordancoleman2402
      @jordancoleman2402 Рік тому +6

      Some of us old dudes can be douchebags 😒 don't let them get to you 👍 clear skies my friend ✌️

    • @mightyeighthmodels
      @mightyeighthmodels Рік тому +6

      @@jordancoleman2402 cause of my hobbies all my friends are old dudes😁. You know a thing or two cause you’ve seen a thing or two. Met a lot of great people in our club. Fly on!

    • @bowenbrown
      @bowenbrown Рік тому +4

      Same thing happened to me, old dudes don’t trust the kids……. yet they love giving me free stuff lol.

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому +6

      Keep that attitude and you'll make it far! There's a reason some folks plateau in skill level and others don't. Stay human, admit mistakes, learn from them, and you'll always grow as a pilot and person. Happy landings! 📦✈

  • @MullaneyRC
    @MullaneyRC Рік тому +10

    Good work giving a shoutout to Joe's battery tests. Every RC pilot should read that thread.

    • @steelrainfpv3383
      @steelrainfpv3383 Рік тому +1

      +1 to this, especially if you're in a high current draw category like edf's, boats, most cars and trucks, quads and helicopters. His empirical testing methods and data are second to none.

  • @macandfries6765
    @macandfries6765 Рік тому

    the music at 0:41 was great, it made it alot easier to absorb info with the calming music. great editing this video

  • @Workerbee-zy5nx
    @Workerbee-zy5nx 11 місяців тому +1

    Wing washout is good to add to wingtip to calm tip stall.

  • @MrShrek23000
    @MrShrek23000 6 місяців тому

    I fly paramotors, and they really made me become honest with myself about crashes or accidents. You can't learn and grow if you keep blaming the weather or outside variables. I've learned to video myself so i csn see where I went wrong so i can improve on the things i do wrong. You're 💯% accurate about lesrning and growing. Its natural progression, and thats how they get to the level they are. Practice,learn and grow from your mistakes. Love all the videos. The satire comedy is extra amusing, and all the videos are super informative! You guys got me into the hobby. i cant wait for my first maiden! Waiting for a simulator as we speak. Keep up the great work!!!! 😀 😃

  • @Crazybros0
    @Crazybros0 Рік тому +1

    The best time of the week: when tail heavy productions posts. Awesome video as always.

  • @CodySiler
    @CodySiler Рік тому +1

    Discovered THP about a week ago and I am LOVING the vids. Great seeing a youthful vibe added to the vids. Ya’ll deserve more subs.

  • @tobiasjarpner1036
    @tobiasjarpner1036 Рік тому

    Another great video! The same guys having tipstalls are also very well represented in the brownout column. Me, I'm just lucky that my BECs are strong enough and my aerodynamic knowledge is on a higher level than most, so that I crash my planes by flying beyond my capabilities. This happens a regular basis, but that's where the fun is, most of the time.

  • @MrFester63
    @MrFester63 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for another great video! As a noob, these really help me!! Great info, with the right amount of detail, examples, and humor. This helps me be more aware of what's going on with my flying, which helps my confidence and advancement. A couple of days ago I even greased 3 landings in a row!!! ...no one was at there to see it, ...so I high-fived myself 😀

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому +3

      Thank you! Glad you're enjoying it! Keep on greasin' em' in...and remember to bounce one on from time to time to remember we're human, too. 😁 -Zach

  • @omramchandrajieducational
    @omramchandrajieducational 2 місяці тому

    I fly homemade balsa and foam planes. I'm really loving my guillows fw-190 conversion right now, and for that, tip stalls are really a problem, and its difficult to get a washout in the wing. In fact, since that's my first balsa rc plane, the tissue warped the wing so one is strgiht, and the other was a slight washin at the wingtip... You have to throw it very fast at a launch to prevent tip stall, but once you're at its sweetspot speed, it flies amazing and I can do fun aerobatics. The annoying thing abt balsa tissue is that when u crash, you have to cut some of the tissue out to fix whatever's inside, whereas with foamies, you can just easily glue. Balsa is very delicate and you absolutely need to be experienced with flying small models especailly.

  • @adamgoldberg7330
    @adamgoldberg7330 Рік тому

    I can't believe I just found this channel. Excellent video and I appreciate the humor!

  • @Chio_OB
    @Chio_OB Рік тому +3

    Excellent vid, tip stalls do exist, easy to confuse with an asymmetric stall, as an RC Pilot who used to crash a lot and doesn't very often now (but now and then lol) I can safely say that when ever I stall my plane in any way it's always my fault! I have a OS46 Powered PC-9 (amongst others), allegedly famous for tip stalls. Never stalled it by just being a bit cautious and trying stuff up high (never got a naturally occuring tip stall from it yet). Know your aircraft but more importantly know your limits! If you crash from any stall barring mechanical failures or very weird weather it's almost always your fault! Also heard brownout blamed for so many crashes where you can see a mistake caused the plane to depart normal flight (most often loss of orientation), and the wiggling afterwards that shows aircraft was never browned out. I've had one brown out in 15 years that I luckily recovered from, reason for the brownout? Pilot error, when I put the wing on I had not routed the aileron servo wires correctly and the servo was jammed by the wires in one direction causing a massive load on the flight pack dropping power to brownout levels. A lot of the erm older guys where I fly like to blame anything other than themselves, the best pilots (not me. I'm "capable") always grudgingly admit they fucked up. Though sometimes it is a random control loss with no discernible reason, obvious mechanical fails or just bad luck in my experience it's usually pilot error!

  • @Videolinquency
    @Videolinquency Рік тому +2

    Thanks for finally pointing out that not all wing drops are tip stalls!

  • @lancebedour1473
    @lancebedour1473 4 місяці тому

    How about thumbs and pinch? I have been flying choppers for 30 + years and started out before gyros were invented . I found that pinch on the left and thumbs on the right worked great for me and it really helped me out flying fixed wing. Love your channel and have also subscribed . Keep up the good work! Older pilot!

  • @neilcaywood3803
    @neilcaywood3803 Рік тому

    VERY well done, Just having fun with your friends!

  • @robertkbrooks951
    @robertkbrooks951 Рік тому +3

    Tip stalls happen when you do not come in with power. Gliders do not tip stall. Airspeed is your hero.

    • @scott9141
      @scott9141 Рік тому

      Interesting. Why don't gliders tip stall?

    • @alexmcmeekin2658
      @alexmcmeekin2658 21 день тому

      Gliders most certainly do.

  • @Lukemiester16
    @Lukemiester16 Рік тому +2

    This is great stuff to know, good on you for putting this great informational and fun content out :)

  • @bloatedgoatfpv
    @bloatedgoatfpv Рік тому +4

    Loved this video! I fly quads now but grew up on balsa and 10% nitro. I used to thumb but with quads I really need the added control of a hybrid pinch. I did a lot of flying at the stall limit back then.

    • @Tensho_C
      @Tensho_C Рік тому

      same story, flying quads just felt right with pinching for some reason.

    • @Outsydr54
      @Outsydr54 Рік тому

      X3. I learned to fly thumb 25 years ago but when I switched to quads went hybrid. When I came back to fixed wing I never went back to thumb.

  • @jakeman1251
    @jakeman1251 Рік тому +1

    The argument 'ever seen a 40 year old foamie?' is totally bunk cause they just literally haven't been around that long.(unlike balsa) That being said I loved this vid and I love your channel 💪🔥

  • @bwjones8903
    @bwjones8903 Рік тому

    The Crowder reference is just too good!

  • @MyRCJourney
    @MyRCJourney Рік тому +2

    Hey! I'm enjoying your content and am learning something with every video you guys do. I appreciate the link to battery testing. Very eye-opening! Thanks!

  • @slade8212
    @slade8212 Рік тому

    Not a participating member of RC community so I found this interesting (aerospace student). I would expect tip stall to be characterized by a lack of roll authority and less from an abrupt wing drop (although I’m not sure about the second part). Asymmetric stall gives that wing drop and it’s completely from uncoordinated flight, ie: pilot error. I did that in a cub one time and it was scary for a half second. I think the size scale of RC makes it less forgiving in stall and spin situations. At this hobby scale they don’t seem to recover or be super stable. It’s always interesting since RC tends to have a crazy high TWR and other major differences to full scale aircraft that makes them behave so differently.

  • @yodecaf
    @yodecaf Рік тому

    Id love to see an in depth one on CG. Most of the advice is pretty blanket and some recommendations have huge gaps between them!

  • @derekterry4157
    @derekterry4157 Рік тому

    Great Video! A year ago I was that guy that would crash my night timber and blame the plane with "the aileron servos stopped working, I lost connection, it just fell out of the sky" I have since learned I was crashing it because I was giving it abrupt up elevator and exceeding angle of attack needed to give lift to the wing and I stalled.
    These are my thoughts on SAFE. It 100% makes you a worse pilot. It is a crutch that limits your ability to grow as a pilot. It's also a great way to just enjoy the hobby. I started flying 2 years ago and I fly at least 5 times a week mostly in the park behind my house. I don't need SAFE to fly and some of my planes don't even have SAFE but I still use SAFE for 90% of my take-offs and landings and on some flights I never take the plane out of SAFE. I find it just a nice fun and relaxing way to fly.

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому +1

      Well said and definitely understand your viewpoint. To counter it - always remember that life begins at the end of your comfort zone. Challenge yourself to try some takeoffs and landings without it from time to time and I bet you'll eventually turn it entirely off. You may find that you enjoy doing them without it even more. Fly outside the box! 📦✈

    • @derekterry4157
      @derekterry4157 Рік тому

      @@TailHeavyProductions Thanks for the push! I respect you guys and your content a lot so I figured if you took the time to give me some advice the least I could do was take it. I just took out the Turbo Timber Evo and flew 2 batteries without using safe with about 10 take-offs and landings and my first-ever touch and goes without safe. I also did my typical snaps and Cuban 8's and just trusted the plane and myself to fly out of stalls. The experience left me a bit glittery but accomplished. As much as I hate to admit it it's time to break my safe habit.

  • @CalebT_RC
    @CalebT_RC 3 місяці тому

    I did try pinching for a little bit and didn’t like it too much. I’ve taught myself to fly without pinching on the sim for many years. Now my inputs are very small and works fine for me.

  • @gpaull2
    @gpaull2 Рік тому +1

    Foam is fine, I just don’t see how they justify the prices compared to balsa or composite airframes.

  • @aphlyp
    @aphlyp Рік тому

    Awesome video/channel! You should do a video on the good-ole downwind turn fallacy!

  • @mrhelichopper
    @mrhelichopper Рік тому

    Great channel guys, keep up the good work!

  • @WindCatcherRC
    @WindCatcherRC Рік тому

    There's balsa planes, foam planes, and then there's EPP foam planes. Hangar rash? What's that? 😁
    When it comes to crashing for me, the wind always catches it. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Island_Line_Rail_Productions

    At least for me, I do practice the simulated engine failures when flying RC and full scale. I try to add a coule second delay though between the time I "fail" the engine to the time I react. In a real world situation, the shock of loosing an engine, especially on departure, and how long it takes to act determines if you will be able to make it back to land safely. Of course with RC, landing short will not hurt much but the wallet at worse whereas stalling and spinning while pulling for the runway at low alt is almost certanly fatal

  • @yesterdayschunda1760
    @yesterdayschunda1760 Рік тому

    This explains what happened with the fire fighter plane in Italy quite well.

  • @Jon_Flys_RC
    @Jon_Flys_RC Рік тому +1

    When you guys cover stalls, can you talk about how raising the ailerons above the trailing edge artificially changes the washout and can help reduce asymmetric stalls? I know it’s changing the washout at the tip, but not sure what it’s actually doing.

    • @erich930
      @erich930 6 місяців тому

      It reduces the angle of incidence near the wingtip (the angle between the wing chord and the longitudinal axis), which forces the wing root to stall first. This helps make the stall more symmetrical, and it allows to ailerons to have authority at a slower speed.
      In full-sized airplanes, the entire wing usually has a twist instead of just the ailerons being deflected slightly upward. On some planes it's a gradual twist along the entire length of the wing, while on others it's a hard cutoff between the higher AoI and lower AoI

  • @ChadKovac
    @ChadKovac Рік тому

    I'm certain there is an airport near me who is teaching the power-off recovery stuff over my property in East Tennessee. Every few days I'll hear a plane cut out, then several seconds later I'll hear it rev up again and fly away. -- sometimes as long as a minute

  • @jimjimmyjam8242
    @jimjimmyjam8242 Рік тому +3

    I used safe mode with the landing assist after crashing several planes. I've moved on to some different planes over the years but when the weather is sketchy or I'm flying with floats I still flip that switch if I get overwhelmed. People might say I'm cheating but I come home with my planes in 1 piece almost always. Well, usually, maybe sometimes... either way I have a blast and that's what it's all about

    • @jeffs7915
      @jeffs7915 Рік тому

      When will you develop the skills to fly without a stabilization system? The longer you wait the harder it becomes.
      I use mixes,in many of my planes, I tried for years to null out the design coupling inherent in their designs, I gave it a good try, it's to much to contend with. But it was never a question of bringing the plane home. Reasonable skills that improve with practice keeps pilots excited about the hobby.

    • @OneHappyCrazyPerson
      @OneHappyCrazyPerson 10 місяців тому

      ​@@jeffs7915Using gyro's is just sanity, we fly them by proxy so why make it harder and more risky as we cannot "feel" the plane ? You must be a old timer that can't get his head around mems sensors and what they do and how they improve the safety and overall experience.

  • @ricknoah9184
    @ricknoah9184 11 місяців тому

    Oh yeah thanks... got spasms in my ribs from laughing so hard....🤣

  • @MohammadAdib
    @MohammadAdib Рік тому

    Love every single one of your videos guys ❤

  • @BrianPhillipsRC
    @BrianPhillipsRC Рік тому

    LOL @ 2:30 - two weeks in a row - I feel so special ;)

  • @JimboJette
    @JimboJette Рік тому

    Really glad I found this channel. I want to get into this hobby but when it comes to pnp planes would an 80 dollar transmitter work or am I stuck with horizons 350 dollar ones lol

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому +1

      Welcome to the channel! You do get what you pay for - I'll leave it at that. 👍

    • @JimboJette
      @JimboJette Рік тому

      @@TailHeavyProductions thanks for the response, I’m probably going to start out with a RTF apprentice with floats. It’s all water in the keys no room for a strip 🤣

  • @agevan6735
    @agevan6735 Рік тому

    Best !!! You guys rule,, Cheers from this Aussie in China, my fav. to watch!

  • @shelledcrane0177
    @shelledcrane0177 3 місяці тому

    Myth people have me is that batteries do not effect the CG as much as most other people say, I put a batterie in more back in the plane of the timber and it land without prop stricks

  • @taxigalaxi
    @taxigalaxi Рік тому

    I already had to emergency land my Timber Evolution like 5 meters off the ground with engine faliure. Its very sketchy but quite managable

  • @FatGuyFliesRC
    @FatGuyFliesRC Рік тому

    Loved it thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @IFlyMillennium
    @IFlyMillennium Рік тому +1

    Very nice round out of rc myths, I'm happy to see you guys being disruptive, which is what this hobby needs!
    Thanks for posting this content!
    Happy flights! ✈

  • @Skinflaps_Meatslapper
    @Skinflaps_Meatslapper Рік тому

    Only way you'd ever be able to tell if it was a tip stall is if you had tufts on your wingtips and analyzed video footage, because they're otherwise identical in effect from a third person view. You can't feel if your RC plane is coordinated during a stall and therefore you can't really be sure if it was due to being uncoordinated or due to the tip stalling. Based on what I've observed of my own flying, I'm probably uncoordinated with most of my RC planes nearly all the time to some degree or another, as using a gyro on the rudder really opened my eyes to just how off I was with my rudder inputs and mixing. With the exception of a little F-86 I had, probably every single time I've dropped a wing in a stall was because I was flying uncoordinated to some extent. I've experienced tip stalls in one particularly nasty little homebuilt aircraft, it was a one-off scratch build that has since been scrapped, and it really deserved it too. Basically what it amounts to is that the wings are still flying, they haven't stalled yet but are right on the edge, you feel the buffeting but they never let go....it feels stable and manageable yet suddenly you start rolling hard to one side or the other after the slightest bit more elevator, almost like you just slammed the ailerons into their stops. Only input necessary to recover is to let off the elevator some so the air sticks back over the wingtip and you're in full control again. It's nothing like a spin/snap roll where you have to do some opposing rudder work in addition to relaxing elevator, a tip stall is more like trying to do an aileron roll in slow flight, though it doesn't take much to aggravate the situation and turn it into an actual spin. In a tip stall, you still feel that buffeting like you're right on the edge of a stall the whole time, in a spin or snap roll that buffeting becomes relatively smooth after a wing stalls. You can swap the stall from left to right wingtip by using tiny amounts of rudder to shove the stalling wingtip into cleaner air, giving you the ability to roll way faster at near stall speed than ailerons could ever provide, however it's ridiculously easy to take it too far and enter an actual spin, so there's no practical use for it besides having a bit of silly fun at altitude. Really dangerous on landing if your standard procedure is touching wheels on the ground just above stall speed, you have to give yourself some extra airspeed so you're not close to stalling any part of the wing. If you were to stall a wingtip during a gentle flare to touchdown, you're done, there's no recovering, it happens too quick and you can't relax the elevator to stick the air to the wingtip because you're too close to the ground for it. Best to simply treat it like Vmc in a twin, don't ever ever ever get below that speed on landing. It's extremely rare to see it in any GA aircraft, but in RC models I'd say it's a lot more common than one would think simply because of manufacturing variations or a lack of washout in the design, defects or damage that caused a warped wing, and the fact that anyone can buy a high strung swept wing jet or a highly tapered wing for about the same price as a good trainer. My guess is that's probably why you've got GA pilots saying that tip stalls don't exist and RC guys who think everything is a tip stall...their experiences, their flying, and the aircraft in question are vastly different between the two.

  • @wyattsdad8561
    @wyattsdad8561 Рік тому

    I had an AT Texan and that stupid thing would tip stall so easily that I sold it. The recommended brushless motor wasn’t powerful enough is what I’m guessing.
    If you turned a little too sharp it would stall out and slip into a dive downward

  • @shelbyseelbach9568
    @shelbyseelbach9568 Рік тому +5

    That fostered dependency is the problem I have with Horizon's Insistence that SAFE belongs in every plane. It becomes a crutch that people will not take out from under their arm and eventually stops their piloting skills from progressing forward. I've seen it a bunch of times. Each to their own, but if you want to further your abilities, SAFE will stop you from doing so. Once you CAN fly, turn SAFE off, you no longer need it. You can now stop even paying for the feature on future planes because you have got what you needed from SAFE, yet they keep buying them and keep flying them, plane after plane after plane. I always wonder if they ever took the training wheels off of their bikes as kids?

    • @militarydocumentariesinc.7007
      @militarydocumentariesinc.7007 Рік тому +1

      Agreed 👍🏻 , when I first got into flying old timer coworker got me on small .46 balsa nitros. Had a elflight also with safe , he told me right away learn to fly and become a pilot. 4 channel plane , no gyro , no safe and practice. Boy was he right , to this day all my planes have neither and it made me way better and more comfortable, and if I get a plane that has safe I disable everything and keep it natural. Flying in windy conditions also taught me to be better as well. 💯 agree with you.

    • @zZWolfyZz
      @zZWolfyZz 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@militarydocumentariesinc.7007I've never flown a plane with safe or a gyro it didn't exist I dont think When I I got into it originally but I'm thinking about installing a gyro in my first balsa plane thats still in the process of being built but hey a friend of mine gave me what is I suppose now an antique veco .61 nitro engine for it so that's one more piece of the puzzle just need servos and well a whole bunch of other random odds and ends and I can finally start putting it together haha but the reason I'm thinking about a gyro is because the wind where I'm living now can be dead calm and out of nowhere you'll get like a 50mph gust and I dont think with my current skills that id be able to compensate for that I havent flown anything in maybe 10 years got anybadvice that might help?

    • @militarydocumentariesinc.7007
      @militarydocumentariesinc.7007 11 місяців тому +1

      @@zZWolfyZz very nice on getting a nice classic nitro balsa. If you want to smooth out the plane go with a gyro it’s deff not going to hurt anything and will help the guys for sure. If the winds get that high tho won’t be drastic imo but will help. I post a link to my other channel of one of my smaller balsa planes that doesn’t have anything and does fine in decent wind . Just grab a gyro pop in there. Balsa and nitros just fly diff imo and I like them a lot I’m sure you will be fine. ua-cam.com/video/rprJDy5aVqE/v-deo.html
      Here is another of mine no gyro does fine in wind. ua-cam.com/video/QMeBqNJm86o/v-deo.html

    • @zZWolfyZz
      @zZWolfyZz 11 місяців тому +1

      @@militarydocumentariesinc.7007 thanks for the encouragement brother and nice videos i like your kadet looks like a fun one i cant wait to actually fly mine but hey ive still got to build it first haha i think ill look into gyros see if i can find one reasonably priced if not well i guess itll just have to be ok haha

  • @jordancoleman2402
    @jordancoleman2402 Рік тому +1

    The X-jet comment had me ☠️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😌

  • @earthsciteach
    @earthsciteach Рік тому

    I agree with everything in this video except for the shade thrown at Flite Test. The misuse of "tip stall" is one of my pet peeves. The plane didn't tip stall, you failed to fly it within its operational envelope.

  • @saxmusicmail
    @saxmusicmail 11 місяців тому

    I've always been a fan of R/C twins. Myth: You must use counter-rotating engines to cancel the torque (and back then only K&B-Veco had a left hand engine), otherwise the plane will flip over on its back and crash. Fact: Nothing could be further from the truth. I've flow more than a few twin .40 planes over the years. They were not at all difficult, in fact, easily flown with little consideration to "torque". They could easily fly one engine out with application of just a little rudder. And no, the engines do not have to be perfectly sync'd.

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  11 місяців тому

      It's funny you mention twins...we've got a fun educational video coming on them in the works. 😁

  • @sirtoast1545
    @sirtoast1545 Рік тому

    Thank you for telling me this, i was flying drone with the wrong antenna, dad said punch it, fpv cut out aaaaaaaaaand off with the wind

  • @killer13324
    @killer13324 Рік тому

    any good cheap RC planes that you recommend for starters?

  • @norbert.kiszka
    @norbert.kiszka Рік тому

    For slow planes should always be rectangular wings. Not matter if its RC or manned plane. If plane is very slow and flying close to stall, then its split second to make crash due to "not planned" roll.

  • @NicholasRehm
    @NicholasRehm Рік тому

    So much RC culture culminated into one video LOL

  • @Gouranga_Man
    @Gouranga_Man Рік тому

    I knew none of this. Learned new things.
    My entire knowledge of RC planes and general model aircraft come from a gadget store RC and building a balsa wood elaccy band plane (throw and recover thing).
    This was a random UA-cam recommendation.

  • @markdaniel8740
    @markdaniel8740 Рік тому

    A wing will stall at a given angle of attack regardless of speed or weight. When making a left turn, the left aileron goes up (decreasing the AOA) and the right aileron goes down (increasing the AOA). if you stall with aileron input, the downward aileron will stall first, tip stall.

    • @12345fowler
      @12345fowler 11 місяців тому

      I am quite sure a stall is defined about airflow seperation relative to the wing and not about an aileron. This matters because doing so it destroy the lift that the wing produce and aileron produce no lift but only bending moment (ok a small lift force then) And most stalls discussions are centered about level flight in 1G not in a turn, this is also how they are tested in real life because a turn would seriously complicate the matter as you mentionned in your post. I don't know if aircrafts are tested (part of certification tests) in a stall in turn scenario, but I doubt it.

  • @SteffenRC
    @SteffenRC Рік тому

    Always great content.. Love your channel...

  • @savannahaeroconceptstt
    @savannahaeroconceptstt Рік тому

    Very informative!

  • @harleyme3163
    @harleyme3163 Рік тому

    the only dif really between foam and balsa is strenth,, I could stand on the dehaviland manchester wing one guy built in 1/4 scale... it had 4 real 9 cylinder radial engine that cost him almost $4000 a piece. that spruce layered balsa plywood is really frigin strong

  • @belperflyer7419
    @belperflyer7419 11 місяців тому

    I've lost a few models due to tip stall - it definitely exists. A couple were gliders which fell out of the sky due to tip stall AND because I let the speed drop; so not an excuse (it was my bad flying) but a reason. I've also lost a couple of power models which went dead stick in a critical flight phase. The first was a P47 that went dead-stick just after a fairly high speed low pass on the pull out; I simply had to try to turn it back onto the strip to stop its going somewhere it really shouldn't have been. The second was a lovely Super Stearman whose petrol engine cut just after take-off - again it was the attempt to get back somewhere safe. In the end it turned out the electronic ignition unit was faulty. In neither case am I excusing me, just pointing out that tip-stalls really do happen.

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  11 місяців тому

      On a glider wing that would be an asymmetric stall. Check out our latest video titled, “Your Definitive Guide to RC Stalls” - we go in depth on them there and more, too. 👍

  • @Random4RC
    @Random4RC Рік тому

    First thing I do with a new plane after trimming is take it up to altitude and stall it in various ways to get a feel for it's limitations.

  • @toolbaggers
    @toolbaggers Рік тому

    I've never seen a 40 year old foamie before , but i've also never seen a 40 year old iPhone either.
    There is no way you can get something like the 64mm EDF Rafael from FMS out of balsa.

  • @Axagoras
    @Axagoras Рік тому

    So positive and wholesome!

  • @Hugocraft
    @Hugocraft Рік тому

    What I think about crashes, its 1 or more of these is limitations is exceeded: pilot , aircraft, environment/weather. Every crash I see its 1 or more of those.

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому

      That's just most of what the FAA wants you to know (you covered PAVE minus external pressures). 😁 We're going big picture with RC. 👍

  • @diprosla592
    @diprosla592 Рік тому

    I am more experienced rc pilot and i wana build BALZA P51 with only 3x servo (rudder, elevator, ailerons), fixed gear.
    What size i should go for? And what proppeler should i use?
    I HAVE build only two planes on control wires

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому +1

      I wish we could help you but if there's one thing we suck at, it's scratch building...ESPECIALLY scratch building balsa. Our full-scale sized plane build video should be enough proof of that. ☠😁 The FliteTest and/or RCGroups forums may be your best bet - or any number of RC related Facebook groups. Good luck!

    • @diprosla592
      @diprosla592 Рік тому

      @@TailHeavyProductions maybe i can try to do first experimental model from thin 0.5mm foam?

  • @StackableGoldMC
    @StackableGoldMC Рік тому

    1:33 UUhh What Have they done to these 172s!
    They didn't deserve that.

  • @punkrawk89
    @punkrawk89 Рік тому

    Good stuff!

  • @ohioflyer_12
    @ohioflyer_12 Рік тому

    power off 180s are practical and practiced

  • @smugfrog8111
    @smugfrog8111 4 місяці тому

    I'd defiantly be down to try a balsa plane, but they don't really make em' in the style I like. Cessna's and Pipers don't do anything to peak my interest. I'm sort of only into scale military jets / EDFs, and really only American ones. Like, MiGs don't interest me at all, but F-15s do... I'd rock a Gripen or M2000 as well. Some Warbirds are cool too but I don't have any. I do want a PBY or a Liberator.. Actually, I really want an E3 Sentry but no one makes one, or even a 707 that I've seen for that matter. Building them from scratch well beyond my skills as a craftsmen. I can glue a foam wing back on, but getting all those parts cut and shaped perfectly? Forget it.
    Also, my weird RC quark that I've just sort of embraced at this point is that I can only fly FPV with fixed wing. People are often mind blown by that. That's how I learned and it's all I know. I even had one older guy tell me that I should flat out "quit the hobby if that's how I felt" He was actually genuinely offended by it and I mean red in the face, enraged by it. Spitting as he screamed at me levels of mad. I told him as passive aggressively as I could to "quit the hobby if he didn't like it."
    Ever seen someone have a cognitive malfunction and start twitching from rage? That's what this guy did. I could tell he wanted to get physical but I had several inches and about 40 lbs on him as well as a gun so it's really good he didn't.
    He said something about me having no respect for HIS hobby (yes, he said HIS with emphasis) and stormed off, throwing a his transmitter into the ground as he stomped off in a hissy fit. To their credit, the other guys there actually apologized on his behalf. They looked embarrassed and I got the impression it was a regular occurrence with that dude but I didn't really stick around long after that to find out and I never went back.
    All I had at the time was my Heewing T1 Ranger and no, I did not crash or hit anything, nor was I unsafe in anyway. I didn't fly too far away, or too high. No one else had any issue. He was just being a prick. I had half a mind to wait outside the area for him to go up and use my FPV system to ram him head on at full speed and splash his fancy scratch build. (it was a P40, and it was gorgeous to his credit) I didn't, but I seriously considered it.

  • @lodisish
    @lodisish 9 місяців тому

    I would not kill my engine on a giant scale for practicing, but you can practice stalls at high altitude to understand how your plane reacts. It's indeed a great training. If you get an engine failure, there is very little time to react and you do not have the time to think, so it must be a reflex.

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  9 місяців тому

      We didn't mean literally killing your engine to clarify - I simulate a loss of thrust on takeoff with my full-scale students by pulling the power to idle during climb-out. This is to build the reflex. The more I do this with a student, the quicker their instinct becomes to unload the wing the second they know the engine is done.

  • @rlbutterfield
    @rlbutterfield Рік тому

    Good explanation!

  • @STUKA_MAN
    @STUKA_MAN Рік тому

    where did you got the FW-190? (8:12)

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому +1

      Check out our video titled "E-Flite FW-190 | A Trainer?" for our full review and info on where to buy it. 👍

    • @STUKA_MAN
      @STUKA_MAN Рік тому

      @@TailHeavyProductions thx I will se it :D

  • @JohnVHRC
    @JohnVHRC Рік тому

    Another one, well done!

  • @freemansfocus
    @freemansfocus Рік тому

    😲 Great info!

  • @tif2247
    @tif2247 Рік тому

    No one in my drone class (Pt 107 commercial rating) pinches, not even the teacher. My classmates are some of the best pilots I have ever seen.

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому

      Give it a try! Some of the best pilots in the world do it, and some of the best don’t do it. It’s ultimately just a technique. Lots of drone racing folks swear by it.

  • @PghGameFix
    @PghGameFix Рік тому +2

    Good vid. I may be able to shed light on the "Foamy" thing. I've been playing with RC since the late 70's. Back in the day... the only foam we had was the expanded bead stuff. It was heavy and weak. I remember getting a Sig MK2 with the foam wing, and it was horrible. Hobby Shack sold some foam models too.... and they were all bad. Not to mention, the epoxy would break free, and engines would come loose, and landing gear would rip out every few flights. So... there are a lot of "Old Timers" who just have a hate for it. But now... those little electric foam planes fly great !! and for the price... you can't beat them. But there will always be haters. AND.... since you don't seem too old... as and FYI... did you know... the Concept 30 Heli from Kyosho originally had foam rotor blades?? They were a god send back then. If you flew early heli's... you had to build blades from wood... but those premolded, balanced blades were great.

    • @henryolson7061
      @henryolson7061 Рік тому

      i’m an RC crawler guy, and i had no idea Kyosho also made helicopters!

  • @741741
    @741741 Рік тому

    i dont get it. are you saying sully would have been able to turn back?

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому +1

      Nope. We were saying that if you know your plane inside and out, you can make a judgement call in the moment based on good training and experience. Sully did this and saved a lot of lives that day. 👍

  • @bkpickell
    @bkpickell Рік тому

    "Don't let your crashes make you think you're a bad pilot"
    Oh there's no mistake. I'm a bad pilot. Out of ten attempts, the longest any of my planes have stayed in the air is 15 seconds. I've destroyed 3 planes. I just built my 4th and am terrified to fly it.

  • @lw216316
    @lw216316 Рік тому

    I heard about someone who was testing and giving real world results about C ratings on rc batteries. However, I think he was only doing so for 6 cell batteries or larger. Is that the Joe you are talking about?

  • @RCPlaneenthusiast
    @RCPlaneenthusiast Рік тому +2

    hey tail heavy, can you do a vlog on you full-scale flying?

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому +1

      That's definitely something we could throw together - anything specific you're wanting to see?

    • @RCPlaneenthusiast
      @RCPlaneenthusiast Рік тому +1

      @@TailHeavyProductions maybe how to do traffic patterns in Rc and full scale and stuff like that

  • @patrickradcliffe3837
    @patrickradcliffe3837 Рік тому

    Using the wrong term for what really happens.
    6:09 I have a almost twenty year Sky Scooter don't bash foam's longevity if taken care of.

  • @SpaceFlamingo07
    @SpaceFlamingo07 Рік тому

    Of course, if your like me, and you throw something together with nothing but foamboard, tape, and a 5 below helicopter, its gonna crash, just depends on whether its into a tree or into the ground.

  • @Not_So_Weird_in_Austin
    @Not_So_Weird_in_Austin 5 місяців тому

    No one is coming It's up to you.... to improve

  • @natejmedia
    @natejmedia Рік тому

    Great video!!!!

  • @stoneagearcher3477
    @stoneagearcher3477 Рік тому

    I have been flying professionally for 23 years. Guess how many times I heard the term “tip stall” used? ZERO!

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому

      Exactly. However - they do exist (but are rarely diagnosed properly). It took them being misused in RC for the term to even come to light in the first place within the model aviation niche. We’ll be addressing it fully in a future video with an aero engineer buddy. 👍

    • @stoneagearcher3477
      @stoneagearcher3477 Рік тому

      @@TailHeavyProductions I totally agree with you. The term is being used by people who don’t fully understand what they are talking about. As a real pilot we try to avoid any stall!

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому

      @@stoneagearcher3477 Thanks, yep, just takes a little learning is all! As a fellow full-scale pilot both professionally and for leisure: RC pilots *are* real pilots. 😁They just don't fly full scale airplanes.

  • @austinlangley4539
    @austinlangley4539 Рік тому

    Yessss another upload

  • @superdon1chw
    @superdon1chw Рік тому

    Thanks

  • @athenovae
    @athenovae 9 місяців тому

    Do anything you want except use active rudder and not mix 😂

  • @TentoesMe
    @TentoesMe Рік тому

    And don't forget to check your controls before takeoff. Always remember to plug in your aileron servos. Ok, guess who forgot both😥

    • @stejer211
      @stejer211 Рік тому

      Checking they are moving in the correct direction will also help.

  • @warbuzzard7167
    @warbuzzard7167 Рік тому

    Keep
    Your
    Speed
    Up
    In
    Turns.
    Also: If you are flying in an heavy downwind, when you make your 180 degree approach turn, THROTTLE UP!!! Don't dip the inboard wing too much; the coming breeze will want to yank the plane over into an inverted condition. KEEP YOUR SPEED UP IN TURNS! Especially in approach turns.

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому

      Good tips! Food for thought. Not overly loading up the wing is what keeps one or both wings from exceeding their critical angle of attack in any phase of flight and at any speed, including slower turns on base to final. Stay tuned for one of our upcoming videos where we fly our 25-pound 1/5 scale P-47 in a confined area flying it on the backside of the power curve and at slow speeds in turns on base to final over tall trees. No bites. A safe angle of attack is what keeps a wing flying - not speed. 👍

  • @sendit_rc
    @sendit_rc Рік тому

    Make a video,when pilot fatigue is called reverse thrust 🤣

  • @OneHappyCrazyPerson
    @OneHappyCrazyPerson 10 місяців тому

    As a new pilot No pinch or Thumb for me, i BuMp the sticks. Based on my flights so far, iam a unintentional 3D pilot.

  • @BlackCatRedScarf
    @BlackCatRedScarf Рік тому

    You'll crash when you're a beginner. You'll be less prone to crash when you are experienced and stick to a routine of safety procedures, tests and checklists every flight session. You will not crash only if you don't fly.

  • @googleyoutubechannel8554
    @googleyoutubechannel8554 Рік тому

    EVA foamies vs balsa? La dee da, look at all these fancy plonkers that can afford premium polymers and rare hardwoods*, some of us have to make do with dollar tree polystyrene board and electronics pulled from $20 throw-away drones.
    (*yes, it is, look it up...)

  • @propguyaviation6985
    @propguyaviation6985 Рік тому +2

    hi

  • @wm8123
    @wm8123 Рік тому

    LOVE IT :D

  • @davidwatkin1484
    @davidwatkin1484 Рік тому +1

    👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽👽
    Ever seen a 40 year old foamy?
    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @markpritchard4447
    @markpritchard4447 Рік тому

    You will lose precious time after an engine failure due to reaction time and fully understanding the situation. Try after 5 seconds in your Luscombe and see the difference.

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Рік тому

      You sure will! However, the more you brief it and practice it, the shorter the reaction time becomes. This has been proven. Good friend of ours survived a total power loss at 500 feet and another friend at 700 feet. Both regularly practiced these at altitude and briefed their minimum floor before departing.

  • @TheKittyClink
    @TheKittyClink Рік тому

    I'm an actual pilot, and I do enjoy me some RC sometimes. There are alot od pilots both RC and actual who are fill of it. Let me tell ya

  • @driesneyrinck
    @driesneyrinck 6 місяців тому

    WT... is Eddy Wally doing in this video?