For everyone who watches the review I had my microphone set to amplify the sound. The stigma force is no where near as loud as it sounds. Thank you all for watching!!!
I had a BAD experience. From the beginning, sometimes the needle stayed out after I stopped the machine, I said that maybe it will recover in time, but the problem has worsened. After I sent the machine under warranty I found out that you have to pay a service fee of 20 euros just to check the machine(the machine is under WARRANTY) After they checked it, they said that I used needles without a membrane and the ink ran in the machine (I only used kwadron and cheyenne, cheyenne have a membrane that is too strong for stigma, they also said, so be careful with "all major cartrigde brand ") Overall they tried to find all sorts of reasons to blame me for handling bad the machine, and not giving me the guarantee. And now I have a stylist stigma that stays in the drawer because I didn't want to pay for spare parts and repairs (134 euros) even though it was under warranty
They always do that. Blame the customer. I broke a hyper 3 sent it in charged to fix it they sent it back and it didn’t even run. Had to send in again and pay again and have a new motor put in, which they blamed me for too. It’s like they re assembled it and didn’t even plug it in. Nice machines, but shittttt customer service
my Spear 2.0 burned out after 2 weeks. I contacted the service center but they immediately blamed me because they had never had such a case. we'll see what happens next
Sup bro been watching your videos like what you doin hope your health is good .I got a question for you im torn between getting a nuema 4 or other pens I been loyal to the coil all these years so what would you recommend as far as a pen that is Good all around?
I'm not using the Neumann 4 anymore after using it for almost a year I got annoyed trying to figure what cams work best so I abandoned it I personally like the Stigma force more than anything else right now because of all the options it has.
What carts are good with liners that stay straight and do Not wobble at all ? Diamond tip is common sense for the needle to stay reliable yet all round tips i see and from chyn to ttec all the liners wobble.. cant do a solid single pass without the needle moving its making me hate carts and i cant see how anyone uses them, causes trauma bouncing around as well.. Any tips or carts that actually do Not wobble ?
Wobble is normal with any Needle even cartridges learn ro remove the needle from the cartridge and bend it down as needed this is why Cheyenne’s cartridges and fyt and Ttech and many others have removable tips so that you can adjust your needles.
Same here, I was on board with the Exo but this is an excellent machine with so many features. I especially like the boost mode. I guess I'll wait it out.. but honestly, I'll probably end up with both haha. I was gonna get the Flux but I like the smaller design of the Exo with the larger grip size.
I don’t think I’m gonna go for the exo I own the flux and I’m still waiting for e give then they decided to come out with a new machine instead of perfecting the flux I’m good
@@ivanmendoza8457 yes, you nailed it. Been waiting and getting the run around since first of last July. Makes you mad doesn’t it. Fk is not about customer service. I’ll be getting one of these as my flux and Cheyenne were both stolen last week from the shop. I can’t wait to try this pen out!
@@Macro_Dreams1 I am trying to get a good machine. But idk what to get. I want it for shading, color packing. I see the spear does it all. But idk. Im confused.
@@DantesDX after using the Stigma force for several more tattoos I have found that I prefer working with my unlimited more. I will have an update video coming on that topic soon.
Sol nova.. the guvnor.. I find it does everything I need on a daily. . It hasn't got all the flashy lights n buttons.. and for what these machines are, in reality, it prob is a lil expensive as an outlay as a xion or stigma spear would do most of what it does.. however.. it pays for itself pretty quick.. couple days if your valuing your self and charging what we should be fir our blood sweat n tears (years) learned experience and trade. For lining I can see the benefits to a flux or a force.. and prob stippling etc.. but not soft shading.. they hit to hard. The Sol nova does it all .. seriously.. every other tattoo machine I own resides in the draw, and that seems permanent. I use the flux now and again for lining or even black saturation packing.. it does do that well.. but for realism the sol nova is gonna take some beating. This is best part of a year on.. absolutely no issues.. and no complaints.. only absolute awe and praise for the first class machine Cheyenne created in the unlimited. Ps.. new batteries are couple quid from a vape shop supplier.. easy to come by.. and not encased in a power bolt that you cannot access that will unavoidably cost you hundreds of pounds Pps.. inside the flux.. 😳😳 are the same type of vape batteries.. you just cant get to em.. but irrelevant of the flashing lights.. its still just standard charemgeable batteries.. dont be deceived..
@@calvinblack2167 yeah you'd have to swap out cams which means the machine would require a removable motor which this doesn't have. So no! not so easy!!!!
@@calvinblack2167 I'll be completely honest with you. After using it for some time after this review I went back to using my sol nova unlimited. The force is a great machine but it hits too hard for me in a 3.7mm stroke. The give modes are not as responsive as I thought. The boost mode is useless. Is it a good machine? Yes but it's not for me and for the way I tattoo.
How much lasts the battery, watched 20+ minutes and didn't heard about that important point. Having just 1 battery which is included as part of the body, instead of replaceable batteries, is a con on these type of wireless machines. A secondary body/battery doesn't comes included, and uses to be very expensive, compared to wireless machines with external batteries that you can replace during all the machine's life, and buy new ones when they are losing the charging capability, as the Stigma body will do with time and daily use, no matter what sellers say, it's all batteries behavior. If I'd have a buck everytime that I heard "... the best machine I've ever used" during all these years of tattooing.... ;)
For everyone who watches the review I had my microphone set to amplify the sound. The stigma force is no where near as loud as it sounds. Thank you all for watching!!!
This machine has a lot of features I love it I don’t like stigmas warranty but u convinced me I’m going for it
I had a BAD experience.
From the beginning, sometimes the needle stayed out after I stopped the machine, I said that maybe it will recover in time, but the problem has worsened.
After I sent the machine under warranty I found out that you have to pay a service fee of 20 euros just to check the machine(the machine is under WARRANTY)
After they checked it, they said that I used needles without a membrane and the ink ran in the machine (I only used kwadron and cheyenne, cheyenne have a membrane that is too strong for stigma, they also said, so be careful with "all major cartrigde brand ")
Overall they tried to find all sorts of reasons to blame me for handling bad the machine, and not giving me the guarantee.
And now I have a stylist stigma that stays in the drawer because I didn't want to pay for spare parts and repairs (134 euros) even though it was under warranty
They always do that. Blame the customer. I broke a hyper 3 sent it in charged to fix it they sent it back and it didn’t even run. Had to send in again and pay again and have a new motor put in, which they blamed me for too. It’s like they re assembled it and didn’t even plug it in. Nice machines, but shittttt customer service
I just had that same experience with their stylist
Crappy customer service
my Spear 2.0 burned out after 2 weeks. I contacted the service center but they immediately blamed me because they had never had such a case. we'll see what happens next
@@bollol5141 they will fix it for you but it will cost you, transport + inspection + parts + repair, you will bear all the costs
Hello, do you still use the force? is it still running? I want to get the 4.5 for lining.
That machine is awesome. It's crazy you can dial it all in at the battery pack. Love the reviews thanks.
Thanks for all the reviews, very helpful.
Great review as always!!!
Do still like the force over the flux
Hell yes!!!!
Do disposable grips work with this machine?
Stigma rotary has not made them yet I do not know when they will be available
Sup bro been watching your videos like what you doin hope your health is good .I got a question for you im torn between getting a nuema 4 or other pens I been loyal to the coil all these years so what would you recommend as far as a pen that is Good all around?
I'm not using the Neumann 4 anymore after using it for almost a year I got annoyed trying to figure what cams work best so I abandoned it I personally like the Stigma force more than anything else right now because of all the options it has.
The brass cams in that make it hit hard
What carts are good with liners that stay straight and do Not wobble at all ? Diamond tip is common sense for the needle to stay reliable yet all round tips i see and from chyn to ttec all the liners wobble.. cant do a solid single pass without the needle moving its making me hate carts and i cant see how anyone uses them, causes trauma bouncing around as well..
Any tips or carts that actually do Not wobble ?
Try black claw they are amazing
Wobble is normal with any Needle even cartridges learn ro remove the needle from the cartridge and bend it down as needed this is why Cheyenne’s cartridges and fyt and Ttech and many others have removable tips so that you can adjust your needles.
What driving mechanism does this have?
Direct drive like the Bishop wand? Swashdrive like the Cheyenne or ?? Like the xion?
Dual cam direct drive system
Awesome review bro! Thanks.
Thanks brother
Fk irons exo black ops machine or this will be next for me. Will wait a month so both machines can be compared. Great content here as always
Same here, I was on board with the Exo but this is an excellent machine with so many features. I especially like the boost mode. I guess I'll wait it out.. but honestly, I'll probably end up with both haha. I was gonna get the Flux but I like the smaller design of the Exo with the larger grip size.
I don’t think I’m gonna go for the exo I own the flux and I’m still waiting for e give then they decided to come out with a new machine instead of perfecting the flux I’m good
@@ivanmendoza8457 yes, you nailed it. Been waiting and getting the run around since first of last July. Makes you mad doesn’t it. Fk is not about customer service. I’ll be getting one of these as my flux and Cheyenne were both stolen last week from the shop. I can’t wait to try this pen out!
It doesn't have the 3 settings like the spear?
No
how i wish i could have one! someday!!!😍
What stroke is this? I think u can order 3 different strokes. I need one for shading, what one should I getM
I use 3.7mm they have 4.5mm and 2.8mm as well.
@@Macro_Dreams1 do u use it for shading, coloring and lining?
@@blackedouthonda2263 I have used it for everything I feel it is too powerful for soft shading I tend to use my unlimited more to be honest.
@@Macro_Dreams1 I am trying to get a good machine. But idk what to get. I want it for shading, color packing. I see the spear does it all. But idk. Im confused.
@@blackedouthonda2263 I understand that it can be confusing definitely. Are you able to message me on Instagram or Facebook?
This device, I want one, I am from Iraq, how can I get it?
You can buy it from killer ink
How does this compare to the sol nova unlimited if you’ve tried that?
What’s the throw again?? 5.0?
What? 5? The stroke on mine is 3.7
If the Stigma Force is a 10/10 - where would the Sol Nova Unlimited be on that scale?
I'd say a 9.5/10
@@Macro_Dreams1 Higher than expected.
@@DantesDX after using the Stigma force for several more tattoos I have found that I prefer working with my unlimited more. I will have an update video coming on that topic soon.
@@Macro_Dreams1 Looking forward to the update.
Sol nova.. the guvnor.. I find it does everything I need on a daily. . It hasn't got all the flashy lights n buttons.. and for what these machines are, in reality, it prob is a lil expensive as an outlay as a xion or stigma spear would do most of what it does.. however.. it pays for itself pretty quick.. couple days if your valuing your self and charging what we should be fir our blood sweat n tears (years) learned experience and trade.
For lining I can see the benefits to a flux or a force.. and prob stippling etc.. but not soft shading.. they hit to hard. The Sol nova does it all .. seriously.. every other tattoo machine I own resides in the draw, and that seems permanent. I use the flux now and again for lining or even black saturation packing.. it does do that well.. but for realism the sol nova is gonna take some beating.
This is best part of a year on.. absolutely no issues.. and no complaints.. only absolute awe and praise for the first class machine Cheyenne created in the unlimited.
Ps.. new batteries are couple quid from a vape shop supplier.. easy to come by.. and not encased in a power bolt that you cannot access that will unavoidably cost you hundreds of pounds
Pps.. inside the flux.. 😳😳 are the same type of vape batteries.. you just cant get to em.. but irrelevant of the flashing lights.. its still just standard charemgeable batteries.. dont be deceived..
I love German technology, amazing machin.
I thought this had adjustable settings for the stroke
And how would that be possible with a direct drive motor. Please tell me?
@@Macro_Dreams1 that’s easy.
@@calvinblack2167 yeah you'd have to swap out cams which means the machine would require a removable motor which this doesn't have.
So no! not so easy!!!!
@@Macro_Dreams1 yes, all jokes aside is this machine good? It’s caught my eye.
@@calvinblack2167 I'll be completely honest with you. After using it for some time after this review I went back to using my sol nova unlimited. The force is a great machine but it hits too hard for me in a 3.7mm stroke. The give modes are not as responsive as I thought. The boost mode is useless. Is it a good machine? Yes but it's not for me and for the way I tattoo.
Lovely machine
Great machine,gud for lining and atipling,but battery is garbage after 3-4hours battery is dead.
How much lasts the battery, watched 20+ minutes and didn't heard about that important point. Having just 1 battery which is included as part of the body, instead of replaceable batteries, is a con on these type of wireless machines. A secondary body/battery doesn't comes included, and uses to be very expensive, compared to wireless machines with external batteries that you can replace during all the machine's life, and buy new ones when they are losing the charging capability, as the Stigma body will do with time and daily use, no matter what sellers say, it's all batteries behavior. If I'd have a buck everytime that I heard "... the best machine I've ever used" during all these years of tattooing.... ;)
I'm happy for you bro good luck finding your perfect machine!!!