Perfect Your Double Stroke Roll!
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2024
- In this clip I go over what I think are the most important aspects of developing a double stroke roll. I list my 3 key ingredients to a smooth double stroke roll and then offer my favorite exercises to learn to implement them over time.
0:00 Intro
0:27 1st Technique
0:59 2nd Technique
1:27 3rd Technique
2:07 What to work on
2:40 Exercises to get shredding
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Holy shit thank you so much! I've been trying to understand and learn double strokes for months actively training and just failing without progress. I've been going insane on this. Your first step of feeling the bounces and stopping/catching the second bounce FINALLY did the trick for me! I swear noone else I could find not even my drum teacher irl knew or taught this. All advice is on perfecting it, equal volumes, but not how you even get there first. Thank you so much!
Awesome! Glad it clicked for you. It's always useful to see different approaches to see what makes sense for you so I'm glad it helped you out!
i like that you get right into it
Thanks! Glad you like it👍
would love to see more of these.. this was really helpfull. nice one!
Great to hear! I'll have more coming out in the future. Thanks for the support:)
Thanks, Rory. Of the many explanations for how to develop the double stroke roll that I have sampled on UA-cam, yours is the best. It’s clear, concise, and completely in sync with what you’re doing on the pad.
Thanks a lot! That's a big compliment. Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video Rory. Keep the content coming!
Thanks for the support! More is in the way :)
My teacher taught me something similar with just letting the stick bounce freely at first then restricting it to 2 bounces. Worked really well for me so I can vouch that your advice is very good lol. Also very underrated vid like this production quality is actually so clean.
Thanks for the feedback. I actually started with learning finger control first which I actually don't think is the first thing to focus on. It took me quite a while to get the hang of that haha. Glad the rebound control idea worked out for you!
Great video! Thank you much!
Glad you liked it!
Great lesson, wonderful example also for my beginner Students, thanks for sharing !!
Ahh great! I was hoping it'd be a good reference for some of my students as well
Good stuff, man. Keep up the good work! :)
Thanks a bunch! More clips to come soon
Thank you Excellent lesson. I think your presentation is thoughtful and offering your experience to the world of learners. Sweet pad…
Thanks a lot for the kind words! Glad you got something out of it :)
This is good material if someone tells you otherwise they're just mad at life. Great production quality btw I really liked the straight and to the point style of the video and simple editing. Keep it up man.
Thanks a lot. If you're referring to some of the comments on this video don't worry, they haven't phased me much. I just didn't realize a video on doubles could be so divisive 😂. Thanks again for the kind words
Mine feel and sound really decent but I find myself basically pinching the sticks at the fulcrum and then using more of my forearm to move the stick. Trying to break myself of this habit.
Yeah that happens a lot. I'd recommend spending some time just trying to play those rebound stokes to get the feel of keeping it loose at the fulcrum for a few minutes every time you warm up. Then with time you'll start to adapt your grip. But I feel like I'm pinching once I get to a tempo where I'm hitting my max speed too. So it's probably bound to happen at some point!
I think pinching a little is normal once you get to higher tempos. I know we’re constantly told to hold the sticks loosely but there’s gotta be some stability in there to keep the stick under control. At least for me anyway.
This, 100%. Cheers @@np466
I agree. I heard mike mangini say the same thing actually as well. So I doubt there's a way around it completely.
great video!
Thanks a lot. Glad you like it!
Great video man!
Thanks for the kind words. Glad you liked it!
Hi Rory, great technique. Really like the exercises. Guess I can't the logo for my bass drum.
Hahaha that is incredible. Be my guest. The amount of people that share our initials are few! Thanks for the kind words
Thanks for the concise tutorial.
You're welcome!
The first step for me is to get my snare tuned to even have a rebound like on the practice pad 😅It's easier to play on a practice pad in my opinion
Yeah I think you're right! I just used a practice pad in this video because I have limited time on a real drum set :(. But if you can play doubles on a pillow you can play them on anything!
The last exercise is one of my favourites. Did you get it from Steve Smith by any chance? I first learned it from his History of the US Beat DVD.
Anyways I’m looking forward to trying these out. I definitely have issues with accents on the first stroke and I think it’s because I’m arcing. Thanks for posting this.
Yeah I like that last one too. I'm love Steve Smith but I don't think I've seen that video of his though. I just thought of it while thinking up warm up exercises one day.
@@rqdrums Crazy, it’s pretty much identical. Alternating between singles and doubles, throwing in a diddle on the end of a course of singles to switch leading hands.
Anyways it doesn’t matter, it just made me smile to see it. I definitely recommend that DVD set it’s fantastic.
That's really helpful, subbed, thanks!
Thanks a ton!
this technique focuses om rebound. what about doubles on the toms? toms dont rebound unless tuned too toght
The first tip focuses on rebound yes but later I show that using your fingers can help drastically. I also later suggest playing doubles on a pillow so that you're ready for any kind of surface. I mainly use fingers on surfaces like that personally. Hope that helps!
Does it make sense to practice these in an e-drum kit or should I definitely start on a practice pad?
Just use what you got! A real snare is actually ideal but I used a practice pad because that's all I have at home to play on. An e-drum kit will work great though 👍
@@rqdrums Thanks!
You're telling me I've been naffing about watching video after video on how to do doubles and it's actually this simple? I almost feel like I need to book a drum lesson with just to get confirmation that I'm actually doing doubles, and not some lazy facsimile.
Well, they might simple from how I've presented them here, but they're definitely not easy. I do think if you focus on what I showed in the clip while working on them over a long period that'll do the trick though. Just add them into your warm ups or learn some snare solos and you'll be shocked how fast they'll get better. Hope that makes some sense!
@@rqdrums whether what I'm doing now really qualifies as proper doubles or not, at the very least there's been some kind of breakthrough from watching this, so thank you!
Great lesson! Can you give me the name/brand/type of your sticks. Theo look great…
Thanks! They're Promark Rebound 5A's but in a white finish. I got them included with the practice pad I'm using in the video a couple years ago.
Thx for Quick answer! I will have a look, also for the pad with stand as i’m just beginning. Can you also name the pad your using?🙏🏼🤘
I'm using an Evans Real Feel pad. But there's loads of different pads that'll do the trick!
@@rqdrums thx…looking forward to your next vid….
This is good im joud btw
Yessss! You're the best Joud! 🔥🔥🔥
im very left hand deficient but with my right hand my rebounds are effortless but i find trying to mirror my right hand really hard and i only use my index and middle finger to hold the stick when im bouncing the stick with my right hand. any advice in how to get that left hand similarly effortless as my right?
It's pretty tricky to say without being able to actually see how you're playing exactly but I don't think there's really a quick fix necessarily. I'm currently working on my left hand quite a bit and what helps me is just making sure I spend 5-15 min at least really focusing on exactly how I'm playing with my left hand. Making sure you're taking advantage of any rebound you can get and getting the sticks to bounce straight will help loads. It just takes time though. If you work on it consistently within a month or so you'll definitely get better. Just gotta stick with it!
Yes. Start with your left hand. Over and over.
The answer is very simple: practice more with your left hand. I'm super right hand dominant and I really struggle with my left hand. Just have to give the left more time.
It can be a tough pill to swallow though 😢
My left hand is horrible! While my right hand is smoothe and relaxed, my left hand drags and is tense.
Yeah my left hand feels like that too. I've started taking at least 5 min everyday to just focus on exactly what my left hand is doing. And even just doing that has made a big difference. Obviously it takes time but it'll get better if you stick with it!
@@rqdrums
Thank you so much for that tip. I'll do the same exercise you suggested 😊
Nice video But... There's no such thing as perfect!
Haha I know. But we gotta try!
Yes there is... Kieth Carlock
The epitome of mediocrity.
😂
Please, you are moving your arms for each stroke. If you do YT video’s where you want to act like a know it all, do your research and about 5 years of practice before sit in front off a camera again.
Thanks for the comment! I'm all for some constructive criticism but personally I don't think it really matters what you do with your arms if it sounds even. It's always nice when someone makes comments like yours when they have posted zero videos.
You have essentially put your poor abilities on the equivalent of a billboard for every one to see. YT is not a club, it’s a weird type of public square. I can comment however I want and right now, I’m sick of seeing videos that are misinformed.
Wrist turn for singles and wrist turn for doubles.
Wrist Turn, that’s what it’s called to move the wrist and gain a rebound for the second tap resulting in doubles, later, after this is wrist turn is consistent, then one can lift the arm to do crescendo rolls. Watch Buddy Rich or Tony Williams. Learning to do double first without moving one’s arms is fundamental to drumming.
@@xenprovence6126who hurt you bro?
@xenprovence6126 holy shit, it’s the fabled president of the Sticking Stickler Society! I’m surprised you still haven’t learned to get that stick out of your ass-probably haven’t made the time for it between pumping out all your own perfect instructional material. Oh, wait
@@xenprovence6126
And here we have a prime example of gatekeeping.
"Question the person who says there's only one way to do something"
you should credit your sources
Not totally sure what you mean by that. I didn't take anything I said from a specific source really. Especially not from a book or a video in particular. My biggest influence for playing doubles like this is probably Brian Thurgood who is the drum teacher at MacEwan college in Edmonton as well as the percussionist for the Edmonton Symphony. Next after that would be my teachers from the University of North Texas. I studied drum set with Ed Soph for 3.5 years but we didn't really work on snare technique. I took snare lessons there with Paul Rennick (rudimental snare) and Christopher Deane (classical).
Sources for roll rudiments? Are you honestly telling this guy to credit the Swiss military from the 1300s?
@@chrismackeysays
first, I want to thank you for sharing. My comment was not meant to be disrespectful. Doubles in my experience are the most difficult to master. This information is appreciated. I believe it is important to share where and and from whom the knowledge was attained.. so much info out there. it is nice to know the source.thank you. impressive list!.@@rqdrums
Seriously. This comment is the definition of what’s wrong with the comment section these days lol. Absurd. Dude didn’t say or share anything that hasn’t been in circulation for centuries and is standard info to teach in a drum lesson. Nothing of the copyright sort in here. He’s stealing nothing from no one, but rather, is gifting and sharing useful knowledge to others! Isn’t that what youtube is all about?! lol.