E Drag spam is far from the best attack. It’s just annoying when it’s the only thing your clan mates use in wars. And those clan mates have consistent 0-1 stars
so much this, i have literally never seen any lighting + e drag attack come close to a 3 star in war leagues what makes it more annoying is how i swear people who use it are a bit slow- they literally spend thirty or forty seconds zapping out a few buildings witch spam is a lot better anyways
Yeah, I don't get it people saying that's OP. Maybe in TH11 or 12, but beyond this is useless. Everytime I see a clan mate using it it only gets two stars with luck.
@@thgrimreaper9341I can guarantee 2 stars at least against up to TH14 using my TH13 LaLo in wars XD Ive seen th13 Edrake users suffer vs Th11 war bases 😂😂
That's why If you are th 13 or 14 I recommend joining clans up in masters or Crystal I, I am th 15 and in Champion II.... literally no one uses them... casual players lie below crystal I, beyond that we have miniority of competitive players
@@thgrimreaper9341 Even better, if you really pay attention to these players you start to notice just how fu**ing bad they are. Abusing Edrag spam makes them so insanely bad at the game, that whenever they have to manage any troop outside of the Edrag, they fail. I've seen some seriously stupid stuff be done by an Edrag spammer
Yea but Night Witch spam was absolutely demolished by the Roaster, Air Bombs and Giant Bombs. Place your Roaster in a good location and a Night Witch spam never gets the 3 star Edrags spammers ALWAYS use zap for TH
I do not face many night witch spammers, because they only work in specific conditions, maybe in lower level builderhall they work 100% of the time, but at builderhall 9-10 It falls off and will only work against certain bases. I think mass power pekka is a more fair comparition.
I've also noticed that E drags are really bad when it comes to defense, because they attack really slow, and if a poison spell is dropped on it, it pretty much doesn't attack at all before going down
@@TheGhost_In_the_Shell That also heavily depends on the base. Ice golems can be a deciding factor if it freezes something inside a single inferno's range I've personally had a very good outcome by putting a YETTI inside my cc at high TH11
the reason why I don't really like e dragons player is that when in a clan war league, they always fight the lower person than them because they don't want to get 1 or 2 stars. Even sometimes they fight the lower person but somehow they still only manage to get a 1 star
For me it's boring to see everyone attacking with that army like if it was the only troop I think EDrags will stay where they are until a new air sweeper level comes out 😹
@@TK--ev7wx Nope 3rd air sweeper is never needed, air sweepers slow down the game, they will not just destroy e drags, lavaloon, blizzard, blimp attacks everything will be gone
Electro dragon Can can get 70%+ 2 star blindfolded any base of same Townhall 😂 Also attacking higher Townhall easily secures 2 star by blimp Getting 3 stars just require proper hero use mainly rc
Also,They are usually nooobs . I mean even when spamming e drag, At least put some brain on it!!!these spammers doesn't have any mind in their attacks, What makes me hate it is ,they don't know what to zap or how to use their spells,amd they don't even get 3 star 😢 And these players are usually super stup*d and argumentative.
@@incrediballs so you're saying you have to funnel for edrags and that makes it skillful? Isn't funnelling like the most basic shit ever and almost every attack strategy demands it? We are just saying edrags are very easy to play, almost "skilless" even
How to attack using Electro Dragon in clan war: step 1: destroy all air defense with your lightning spells step 2: deploy all electro dragons along with your log launcher and your heroes. step 3: get 2 star congratulations, you now know how to use electro dragon attack strat (but I use edrag for clumped bases because its too satisfying to watch)
step 5 actually use some drags as a funnel troop with your heroes while destroying some key defenses so your other e drags doesn’t end up going around the base and actually get the 3 star for once.
As someone who got back into the game more recently, I am kinda happy to see the community opinion hasn't changed much as balloon spam used to be considered the most braindead army and now there is another tanky flying troop that has taken it's place lol. And yes I said balloon spam not lavaloon as I played before lava hound was even added so the only other troop in such an army would be some minions to help clean up after all air defense was gone. It is always interesting to see how a game evolves even if it's not a very traditional form of pvp and I guess tanky flying troops are going to stay inherently good for a long time as those are just two very solid traits. The main idea I get from such a shift is that E dragons are more suited for th11+ since they spread out more which keeps them alive better when the eagle artillery would otherwise lay into bunched up troops.
I think the main problem with e drags is how they’re used in war. I understand having a no skill farming army but war is different. You’re supposed to use war to test your skill against other clans but it’s just annoying when you have to face a clan who all use the same attack and it’s effective for all of them.
I litteraly have an Anti Edrake base as permanent warbase, because its just used so damn often As a student-in-training LaLo user, it does get a lil frustrating to see how big the difference in skill is for the same result. But gotta stay loyal to the strat to become better at it 💪
ONGGG true skill is in resisting the urge to go the easy route like that! a majority of people in ANY community suck literal dookie-butt and would absolutely throw ur ass under the bus for a quick and easy buck (not inspirational its straight up just fax)@@funplayer05.1
@@nhathieuduong9242 At the risk of sounding egotistical, my clan is in master 1 and we have a 90% war win rate. I have achieved multiple perfect, 21 star cwl performances and I have over 1000 war stars. I have been in the top 3 on the trophy leaderboard. I am not a pro player but I am in the top 5% of casual players in terms of attacking skill. I don’t say this to brag, simply to illustrate that the problem with e drags is not that I’m just not good enough to defeat them. The problem is that players who take 30 seconds to plan their attacks, who use the same army for every base, and who simply spam all their troops in a line and watch are able to compete at a level close to me despite how much time I put into developing my skill and planning my attacks. To put it simply, e drags allow low skill level players to get results far above what they’re actual performance deserves because they are a poorly balanced troop.
I hate E-dragon spam becuase people dont go for 3 stars and just brain dead attacks. When they costed elixir it was punishing and costed over 400k for that army comp. Now there are no penalties for using heavy troops like before.
I personally quite enjoy the Edrag as a troop. 1) It's not really OP, it's just that many people don't make these bases for edrags. At the legends league, edrag isn't used all that much compared to other strategies. 2) The great thing about Edrags isn't really about favoring casual players bc of low skill but it's because of the low total lab time for the army composition. This means you can optimize my progress much more with edrags than any other war comp and therefore blitz through th bottlenecks.
that's basically how I use them, I rushed from like 9 all the way to 13 only upgrading edrags n loons along the way lol...just been chillin a few months now and I'm almost all caught up n rdy to go 14
It is OP, it's not broken. These are not synonyms. Edrag is OP because it requires you to completely shift your base around countering it. It's not broken because it's not a guaranteed 3 star
As a edrag guy I agree with this however it is not really effective if you don't channel them into the center of the base otherwise they just go around the edge
Actually no. Superdragon and edragon are actually quite good at high th levels and pro play. The problem is they don’t just spam everything in. They tunnel the e drags into the core and then finish the base with hero. They problem is people just spam everything and then get 1 or 2 star
@@SUTH_33 lol im not even using edrag Watch pro Matches. Quite a few people use edrag or superdragon and those are the best players in the world Thats a fact Also why do u instally start insulting me, cant u discuss civil?
@@baberkhanbk I use 13 lighting spells + 8 e drags, the heroes and a flameflinger (sometimes it’s the only thing that survives at the end of the attack and it kills the town hall )and on the flameflinger there’s a super dragon 🤑 most of the time is between 2/3 stars but I do search for bases with the air sweeper and the rockets near each other 💀
I used to use a Lava loon e drag combo when I was TH11-13 but when I started leveling up on TH 13 and getting in a higher trophy range I switched to ground again. I wanted 2-3 stars and it just wasn't viable against the th14s I was facing. Then when i got to Th14 facing TH15s and being in titan/legend league it was pretty much over for my air attacks. I tried them periodically, but my ground army was always more effective. That's not even mentioning clan wars.
As a leader of a clan, what’s most upsetting about edrags is the rut they put players in. Players three star bases all through th11 and th12 only to become the worst attackers of all time by th13. They never learned any other armies and they have no idea how powerful their heroes would be if only they ever upgraded them.
i dont realy like the e-d but i understand people use it to grind, for me the point of the game is to have fun making strats and try to improve ur fighting skill.
I'm surprised people care what army they get attacked by, especially when it's not that hard to 3-star with almost any army if you use it more than once or twice.
i believe he's trying to say that edrag spammers are so used to edrag spamming that they can't use any other army or else they wouldn't 3-star@@-Thunderstorm-
@@-Thunderstorm- edrag spammers can’t use a proper strategy so they are just spamming edrags, maybe people hate edrags because without them their villages won’t be as 3 starred as often
Edrag spam works less and less starting at th13. It still is decent but you’re not gonna 3 star using it. I think edrags need a slight nerf but defensively at 13 up handles them pretty well.
After getting hit by 10 Edrags spams and most of them failed their attack then a skilled QCharge LaLo user 3 starred me. It is like breathing fresh air again after inhaling toxic fumes in a factory. I used them to farm resources because they can 2 star bases even without heroes while not using your brain because they are just so strong. I dont use them for clan war because Im not familiar on how their chain lightning works (because I just turn my brain off and spread edrags like a lunatic). Dragons are much easier to use since I got used to them in Th7.
As an air attacker main I can tell you that edrags at th 15 are far from easy. Since the chains are so unpredictable it isn't rare for them to just fly outside the base. I found that edrags are very strong until the town hall falls, then they are like "nice, GG" and then die😂
Actually if you take into consideration with how many defenses and traps that can target the air troops, the Electro Dragon is actually not over powered at ALL.
@@neongaming8818 That's partially true, in reality the bane is the single target infernos, eagle artillery ( if in range ), scattershot, monolith, Grand Warden, Archer Queen, Royal Champion, Air Defense (ironically), Seeking Air Mines, Air Bombs, Air Sweeper, Archer Towers, and Wizard Towers
@@dr.toxicgamingmadscientist That’s also partially true,which makes th11 and partially th12 particularly annoying,as eagle artillery and single infernos are the only real options.
@@neongaming8818 The Seeking Air Mines are almost always a direct hidden counter since they tend to usually ko any E dragons as they'll likely be damaged during the raid
They should decrease edrag's damage by chain cause in rage it just clears all building in a chain as well as air sweeper not even getting any levels or something
Th15 is meant to be a skill-based TH. If you reached Th15 and still using Edrags as your main attack then you are playing the game really wrong@@sarjigamer
Well there is a positive of Electrodragon. Positive is that defenses were getting designed in compact way and it was becoming very overwhelming for attackers to attack a compact defense of pro players.
0:42 They did the same thing with Yetis and the root rider. Yetis being clearly TownHall 13 themed but being unlocked at TownHall 12, and Root Riders being clearly TownHall 16 themed but being unlocked at TownHall 15. Idk why they do this.
I’m th11 and e drags have really taken over the meta at this level. And the fact people who are th12 are using them against me tells me it’s no different at that level either.
I personally don't like using E-drags, I use a go-wipe army setup, and as I increase army space, I'll add or swap out troops to keep it balanced and stron
I have a guy in TH15 that uses nothing but edrags, and he always barely gets 2 stars with it. I'm going to have him removed from war mostly because the difference between his hero levels is too high (80 on queen but 43 on King). He needs to work on his heroes more, and also I want him to start using the air seige machines because whenever he uses the log he doesn't really know how to properly use it.
i like using edrags with a queen walk and using rage spells+ freeze spells... this strategy works most of the time to get very easy 3 stars since the queen walk can be used to take the eagle or the inferno towers wich are the only real problem
My edrag army was 500k💀. At some point I only attacked bases which had above 800K in loot. I never cared about trophies. Now all troops are free so I never look at the loot, Only the tophies.
Spamming lightning spells to my max level air defence and then spamming e-drags is brainless :D i dont understand how they haven nerfed lightning spell spam
Look we have to understand one thing is not every player spent 2,3 hours in coc and not everyone is pro.. So the point is supercell wants players to leave coc who don't have good skills.. That's why they introduced powerful troop with low level skills so everyone can play game
@@JohnKurniawaaanmainly the chain lightning and durability Baby drags can get taken out easily, and if edrags can't be used, you can resort to using a pekka, same thing Mostly when people use heavy troops like these for funnelling, they aldready have everything they need, so they aren't pressed for space, it doesn't really matter if you don't use it
Baby drags are better for funneling since they take 10 space only. But in some cases, there are buildings that are clustered in the corner and there are defenses in the area, Edrag can easily destroy it without dying too early..
Been a veteran player since 2016,took a break from 2020-23 , suddenly when i reinstalled the game and got ud back via super cell ,i personally feel this troop combo killed the creative attacks in th11 above players , most of the pushers are blindly sticking to this strategy.. noobs in the clan without proper strategies are blindly spamming the bases with eds !! Govoho ,govawi and miner combo attacks were fun in 2019 . Somehow i don't see the kick in the game anymore.
You cant blame the strat for being effective in the meta with majority of the bases being compact type. Whereas if the meta of bases were spread then everyone would start complaining about GoWipe attacks 😂
It's only op in its tier, just like how balloons are op when unlocked and when heroes are unlocked. Game encourages you to use the new troop but as you progress to higher levels the advantage gained is lessened
It's Supercell's fault not the players, the less skilled players are basically forced to use edrags or they wont do well in attacks, nobody can fix it but Supercell.
The reason why it was released at th11 is because when a troop releases is it on the second highest th at the time. So for exampel when th16 realses a new troop needs to come out at th15 because there is troop at th15. Electro Titan was realsed at th14
What the complaining people don't understand is that this attack actually need brain cells to win otherwise you gonna get 2 star 70% and more not a three star attack
That what bothers me When everyone in cwl uses e drag and most bases are anti e drag. Then they get 1 or 2 stars. Like either learn how to make an good edrag attack or learn another easy strategy which can easily 3 star like superbowlersmash
So by your own admission, you could get 2 stars with this strategy without even thinking? And you are trying to frame that as if that's somehow a undesirable result?
@@hell1942 you should always aim for 3 stars. Two stars arent the end of the world, but when everyone two stars you miss 1 third of the stars which is really bad. A two star isnt bad, but your attack still failed, if you didn’t 3 star Also there are really easy attacks that can consistently 3 star like superbarch or superbowlersmash
At TH11 I mostly used a composition of 7 normal dragons and 4 edragons with 6 lightning spells, 3 earthquake, and 1 rage. It worked good and was pretty much a guaranteed 2 star on maxed out TH11's as long as i had my heroes. I found ground troops just suck at TH11. I just moved onto TH12 and plan on switching over to a ground troop meta with siege now being unlocked for me
Ground armies are great at th11. When I was there I would use an army made up of witches, bowlers, ice golems, and bat spells. I don’t think I ever missed a 3-star with it
Tbh Quake GoWiBow + Loglauncher Ice golem is still effective in th11 to get 3 stars. You just have to depend on your warden ability to keep the bowlers alive
I prefer the brain dead method of attacking because I'm a casual player. 8 electro dragons, 16 balloons, 6 haste, 4 freeze and 1 poison, log launcher which may or may not have an edrag and some balloons. As a maxed out TH15 player, I pretty consistently get at least 2 stars on any base I attack. The key is to make sure your attack is as concentrated as possible and not let the edrags get carried away. On the chance they do get distracted and fail to get the town hall, in most cases half the base has been cleared already so it's safe for me to send in my Archer queen at the end to take out the Town Hall.
Haste helps balloons and you can cover more area since you get 2x slots vs 1x for rage. edrags and balloons are very slow otherwise.@@justsomeguywithoutabeard8306
i made a full anti edrag base, i win defenses 1/3 of times against edrag army, IN TH15! it kinda works against new op baloon troop too, but sadly i didn't upgrade the poison thrower thingy(still rage lvl)
I'm using eDrags with balloons in Legends League at TH14 and always getting two stars against TH15/16s. Pimped out TH15/16s too. And I just got two 3 star attacks on TH14 bases in today's clan war. I take out a sweeper using lightning spells. I use one balloon on the corners and the center to trip any air bombs or to take out any archer towers that get rando put out on the edge. If I see open spaces in the base, I will drop a balloon in it because people think they are clever and usually put their air bombs there. Then I drop two eDrags on each corner to create a funnel, drop my remaining balloons in the center with the remaining four eDrags/Warden. Pop the Warden, drop two rage spells so that the balloons take out some of the nasty stuff and send the King and Queen straight down the center. Drop the Champion on whichever side they will have the best effect.
I think electro spam is good if you can't get cc troops, i personally use super archer clone bomb in wars so i need donation for every attack But still i think yeti spam is much better than e drag spam
It's funny because if you seperate your inferno towers, air defense and air sweeper in your main base and set all inferno towers to single, You're basically not gonna get attacked because most of these people just spam them anyways. This only happens between th 11-13 in th14 people actually use skills
I don’t use edrags but really how strategic it is depends on how you use it,if you spam it isn’t really strategic but if you just use it for funneling it’s not bad
TBH I believe that E Drag spam its nothing but a disease, and I say it because I have been using taht strat only for a lot of time already due how easy is to play it but now im basically disabled bc if i try to use a more complex strategy I just get really confused so basically its like a cursed weapon that once u hold it u cant get rid of it
Strong bases on online websites that counter strats or are straight up copied from worlds or similar have always existed and Edrags are really easy to defend and barely used at high level nowadays, while they were not used at all back when Th12 was around for a while. And as a defending troop the Edrag is actually one of the worst troops you could have, makes it much worse that so many throw edrags in thinking it will do something.
These new lavaloon troops are more OP I’ve been able to 3 star town halls that are 2 levels above me. It doesn’t require much strategy. And it takes only 30 minutes to train. It’s even less when you have training boosts.
E drag is one of the worst troops in the game and is never used competitively. As long as you make a decent base electrodragons will rarely 3 star. Getting a 3 star with a troop as bad as edrag actually requires alot of skill.
Honestly I am much of a casual player so I just get myself to stick with edrag spam but tbh sometimes this strategy actually faile when the buildings are on a two tile gap but still it gets around 2 stars everytime I attack. Also, when heroes are upgrading this strategy seemed only the viable one
Honestly with siege machines you can easily 2 stars any bases, heck I consistently 2 star a th 14 as a th12 because of siege machine. Now the problem is getting a 3 star which is almost impossible with just mindless edrag spammer that don't even funnel their shit and don't zap the air sweeper like bruh
What bothers me the most is that dragon spam can pretty much guarantee a 3 star on any base from th 7-10 and arguably even higher... And then e-drags which are basically the same thing but blue and stronger guarantee a 3 star on most bases from th 11-13 at least. I've seen mass normie drag work on these too and even th 14's... So esentially there is 1 strategy, using 1 troop, that carries you through about 95% of the game or more given how little time you spend before th7... and it hasn't changed for over 10 years. I quit playing for 8 years, and I come back and to my dismay dragon spam is STILL one of the most common and best attacks... Except now it 3 stars at th 10 and above too. I dislike the complete removal of all and any incentive to learn new things. I learned lavaloonion back in my day, that's still my go-to, but I was proficient enough with hogs, go wiwi and more. We were incentiviced to learn versitile strats that weren't too hard, but weren't too easy.
I dont know how to properly attack in CoC, but ever since Im using E-Drags, I average 2-3 Stars even against bases better than my own (Im mid TH12). Its pretty easy to use but also fun, but once im TH13 I’ll switch to learning a proper attack.
I started using edrags cause I was tired of getting steamrolled by them and I needed a new army anyway, they may be very easy to use but their chain lightning is extremely satisfying to see
I think that e-drag spam us just the same as the zap dragon strategy inbthe lower levels. Use of them is a disgrace to me, making me feel like a nine year old attacking
I don’t believe edrags are no skill. When people spam them in a random spot, Lightning and lightning the ad, it definitely is, but using them surgically, where you clear a section of the base first is definitely harder but more effective.
E Drag spam is far from the best attack. It’s just annoying when it’s the only thing your clan mates use in wars. And those clan mates have consistent 0-1 stars
so much this, i have literally never seen any lighting + e drag attack come close to a 3 star in war leagues
what makes it more annoying is how i swear people who use it are a bit slow- they literally spend thirty or forty seconds zapping out a few buildings
witch spam is a lot better anyways
Yeah, I don't get it people saying that's OP. Maybe in TH11 or 12, but beyond this is useless. Everytime I see a clan mate using it it only gets two stars with luck.
@@thgrimreaper9341I can guarantee 2 stars at least against up to TH14 using my TH13 LaLo in wars XD
Ive seen th13 Edrake users suffer vs Th11 war bases 😂😂
That's why If you are th 13 or 14 I recommend joining clans up in masters or Crystal I, I am th 15 and in Champion II.... literally no one uses them... casual players lie below crystal I, beyond that we have miniority of competitive players
@@thgrimreaper9341 Even better, if you really pay attention to these players you start to notice just how fu**ing bad they are. Abusing Edrag spam makes them so insanely bad at the game, that whenever they have to manage any troop outside of the Edrag, they fail. I've seen some seriously stupid stuff be done by an Edrag spammer
I feel like this is the equivalent of people spamming night witches in the builder base
Yes
Oh lol, was that a problem? That was my strategy
yes@@nothingtoseehere6071
Yea but Night Witch spam was absolutely demolished by the Roaster, Air Bombs and Giant Bombs. Place your Roaster in a good location and a Night Witch spam never gets the 3 star
Edrags spammers ALWAYS use zap for TH
I do not face many night witch spammers, because they only work in specific conditions, maybe in lower level builderhall they work 100% of the time, but at builderhall 9-10 It falls off and will only work against certain bases. I think mass power pekka is a more fair comparition.
I've also noticed that E drags are really bad when it comes to defense, because they attack really slow, and if a poison spell is dropped on it, it pretty much doesn't attack at all before going down
Exact reason I don't give my mates an edrag in their CC as well as tell them not to ask for one.
Super minions and lava hounds are much better on defense
@@arandomperson6293 super minnions and rocket loons or head hunters are the most lethal combo I have seen
@@TheGhost_In_the_Shell That also heavily depends on the base. Ice golems can be a deciding factor if it freezes something inside a single inferno's range
I've personally had a very good outcome by putting a YETTI inside my cc at high TH11
@@WojtekXD-bx7jb complete agreement sometimes I lost my queen due to Ice golems coming to stop my charge when monolith is firing at her already
It's crazy how you can push out all this quality content so fast. Good job man
Its called… slavery
the reason why I don't really like e dragons player is that when in a clan war league, they always fight the lower person than them because they don't want to get 1 or 2 stars. Even sometimes they fight the lower person but somehow they still only manage to get a 1 star
I hate it too.But..I dont get,what was changed?About some nerfs in the end of video no words.Than something anothen
@@AmritDillonbut its still its 90%. And it depends on how rushed is your mirror. Just a sure thing, its hard to do a 3 star using an edrag.
This also applies to regular dragons. And so, yes, it really is
If you watch mine u will never say 1 star attacker
For me it's boring to see everyone attacking with that army like if it was the only troop
I think EDrags will stay where they are until a new air sweeper level comes out 😹
3rd air sweeper or new sweeper level is very needed
I use EDrags just when my heroes are under upgrade LOL 😂
@@mirey69 LOL🤣🤣🤣 THATS WHAT YOU CALL A LOTS OF LAUGHER MOMENT😂😂😂
@@TK--ev7wx Nope 3rd air sweeper is never needed, air sweepers slow down the game, they will not just destroy e drags, lavaloon, blizzard, blimp attacks everything will be gone
One way to counter EDrag is to separate your base defenses so it doesn’t violate you.
people that complain about electro dragons being too op are probably the same people that use compact bases
Electro dragon Can can get 70%+ 2 star blindfolded any base of same Townhall 😂
Also attacking higher Townhall easily secures 2 star by blimp
Getting 3 stars just require proper hero use mainly rc
@@Ryuk_God_of_death same can any other army composition
@@aayushgupta8608 nope try lalo hybrid simply spaming blindfolded will just demolish your army
You need very narrow path for lalo attacks
@@Ryuk_God_of_deathrespect for using lalo
@@aayushgupta8608 Good luck using barch at higher townhalls
The average e drag user fails like 90% of the time
Also,They are usually nooobs .
I mean even when spamming e drag,
At least put some brain on it!!!these spammers doesn't have any mind in their attacks,
What makes me hate it is ,they don't know what to zap or how to use their spells,amd they don't even get 3 star 😢
And these players are usually super stup*d and argumentative.
fax,unless they know what they're doing or they're overleveled
Agreed I'm not even using a anti edrag base, but those players suck so much, it doesn't even matter xD
then theres that few that are good with them.
@@incrediballs so you're saying you have to funnel for edrags and that makes it skillful? Isn't funnelling like the most basic shit ever and almost every attack strategy demands it? We are just saying edrags are very easy to play, almost "skilless" even
How to attack using Electro Dragon in clan war:
step 1: destroy all air defense with your lightning spells
step 2: deploy all electro dragons along with your log launcher and your heroes.
step 3: get 2 star
congratulations, you now know how to use electro dragon attack strat
(but I use edrag for clumped bases because its too satisfying to watch)
Step 4: don’t use e drags
@@sdfghdfsdghwhy lol it does work good for normal loot raids but yeah it doesn't work well in clan wars
step 4 : learn how to get 3 stars
step 5 actually use some drags as a funnel troop with your heroes while destroying some key defenses so your other e drags doesn’t end up going around the base and actually get the 3 star for once.
Step 5 get the three stars
As someone who got back into the game more recently, I am kinda happy to see the community opinion hasn't changed much as balloon spam used to be considered the most braindead army and now there is another tanky flying troop that has taken it's place lol.
And yes I said balloon spam not lavaloon as I played before lava hound was even added so the only other troop in such an army would be some minions to help clean up after all air defense was gone.
It is always interesting to see how a game evolves even if it's not a very traditional form of pvp and I guess tanky flying troops are going to stay inherently good for a long time as those are just two very solid traits.
The main idea I get from such a shift is that E dragons are more suited for th11+ since they spread out more which keeps them alive better when the eagle artillery would otherwise lay into bunched up troops.
It because e drag are good for afk strat
>deploy e drags
>Turn off data/wifi
>wait for rhe results
😂😂😂fkin true
Just close the app and restart it, the attack will end automatically and finish itself
I think the main problem with e drags is how they’re used in war. I understand having a no skill farming army but war is different. You’re supposed to use war to test your skill against other clans but it’s just annoying when you have to face a clan who all use the same attack and it’s effective for all of them.
I litteraly have an Anti Edrake base as permanent warbase, because its just used so damn often
As a student-in-training LaLo user, it does get a lil frustrating to see how big the difference in skill is for the same result. But gotta stay loyal to the strat to become better at it 💪
@@funplayer05.1Student-In-Training 💀
ONGGG true skill is in resisting the urge to go the easy route like that! a majority of people in ANY community suck literal dookie-butt and would absolutely throw ur ass under the bus for a quick and easy buck (not inspirational its straight up just fax)@@funplayer05.1
if you hate it , it simply means you cannot defeat the edrags with whatever strategy you are using:D
@@nhathieuduong9242 At the risk of sounding egotistical, my clan is in master 1 and we have a 90% war win rate. I have achieved multiple perfect, 21 star cwl performances and I have over 1000 war stars. I have been in the top 3 on the trophy leaderboard. I am not a pro player but I am in the top 5% of casual players in terms of attacking skill. I don’t say this to brag, simply to illustrate that the problem with e drags is not that I’m just not good enough to defeat them. The problem is that players who take 30 seconds to plan their attacks, who use the same army for every base, and who simply spam all their troops in a line and watch are able to compete at a level close to me despite how much time I put into developing my skill and planning my attacks. To put it simply, e drags allow low skill level players to get results far above what they’re actual performance deserves because they are a poorly balanced troop.
I hate E-dragon spam becuase people dont go for 3 stars and just brain dead attacks. When they costed elixir it was punishing and costed over 400k for that army comp. Now there are no penalties for using heavy troops like before.
What do you want us to do? Attack with Valkyries instead?
I personally quite enjoy the Edrag as a troop.
1) It's not really OP, it's just that many people don't make these bases for edrags. At the legends league, edrag isn't used all that much compared to other strategies.
2) The great thing about Edrags isn't really about favoring casual players bc of low skill but it's because of the low total lab time for the army composition. This means you can optimize my progress much more with edrags than any other war comp and therefore blitz through th bottlenecks.
that's basically how I use them, I rushed from like 9 all the way to 13 only upgrading edrags n loons along the way lol...just been chillin a few months now and I'm almost all caught up n rdy to go 14
I use lava loon
I low legends league, I get attacked by edrags more then half the time
@@ushashaji7271fellow casual LaLo enjoyer :chad:
It is OP, it's not broken. These are not synonyms. Edrag is OP because it requires you to completely shift your base around countering it. It's not broken because it's not a guaranteed 3 star
As a edrag guy I agree with this however it is not really effective if you don't channel them into the center of the base otherwise they just go around the edge
Bro In Center Th Use Blimp And Cornor Th Use Stone Slamber It Will Help U ❤
E Dragons Are Like Megaknight They Are Dominant In Midladder But They Are Very Weak In Top Ladder
Actually no. Superdragon and edragon are actually quite good at high th levels and pro play. The problem is they don’t just spam everything in. They tunnel the e drags into the core and then finish the base with hero. They problem is people just spam everything and then get 1 or 2 star
@@marweha7002any dragons attacks style is just for kids. accepted the fact
@@SUTH_33 lol im not even using edrag
Watch pro Matches. Quite a few people use edrag or superdragon and those are the best players in the world
Thats a fact
Also why do u instally start insulting me, cant u discuss civil?
@@marweha7002 Oh Yea I Wasn't Clear Enough I Meant Like E Dragon Spam Nothing But E Dragons
@@vincedoesyoutubeofficialtrue, tho i dont care outside of wars really. Makes defending easier
people hate it cause they spend more braincells with different combo yet still lose to it :D
As a fellow E drag spammer I can surely say
I suck at the game and there’s no way I’m changing my spam attack strategy ☠️
Bro you have master the edrag spam for it to work. Only use it on really compact bases and see how it eats up the base + use bat spells
Doomed to failure, enjoy.
@@jaredserrano6126 thank you sir. 🗿🍷
@@baberkhanbk I use 13 lighting spells + 8 e drags, the heroes and a flameflinger (sometimes it’s the only thing that survives at the end of the attack and it kills the town hall )and on the flameflinger there’s a super dragon 🤑 most of the time is between 2/3 stars but I do search for bases with the air sweeper and the rockets near each other 💀
@@AloneSitoYTTM the animosity of my comment hahaha. Sorry I'm just really mad at EDragon players 😝
Clash Royale with Elite Barbarias, Hog Rider and Mega Knight: First time?
Over 110 cards, there is obviously going to be more broken cards or annoying unskilled cards.
I used to use a Lava loon e drag combo when I was TH11-13 but when I started leveling up on TH 13 and getting in a higher trophy range I switched to ground again. I wanted 2-3 stars and it just wasn't viable against the th14s I was facing. Then when i got to Th14 facing TH15s and being in titan/legend league it was pretty much over for my air attacks. I tried them periodically, but my ground army was always more effective. That's not even mentioning clan wars.
As a leader of a clan, what’s most upsetting about edrags is the rut they put players in. Players three star bases all through th11 and th12 only to become the worst attackers of all time by th13. They never learned any other armies and they have no idea how powerful their heroes would be if only they ever upgraded them.
This problem is taken to a new level by the fact that Electro Dragon spam is used against TH 9💀
i dont realy like the e-d but i understand people use it to grind, for me the point of the game is to have fun making strats and try to improve ur fighting skill.
love ur content btw, finally a relaxing voice!
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I love how half the people malding about electro dragon probably also use it
Well I don't, it's not like I'm angry or anything, it's just amazing to think about how goddamn common it is xD
@@hell1942 true. I usually use it in my cc since I'm town hall 9 right now and I use it in scary situations
@@apostle9741 You dont know shit about e drags youre just in th 9. Come to th 11 kid, you will understand its power.
If you can't beat em, join em
I use it with lava loon, so there's a little bit skill involved
I'm surprised people care what army they get attacked by, especially when it's not that hard to 3-star with almost any army if you use it more than once or twice.
“not that hard to 3-star with any army” edrag spammers :
@@eee_eee??
i believe he's trying to say that edrag spammers are so used to edrag spamming that they can't use any other army or else they wouldn't 3-star@@-Thunderstorm-
this is true for lower townhalls (th13 and below), afterwards it gets hard to 3 star
@@-Thunderstorm- edrag spammers can’t use a proper strategy so they are just spamming edrags, maybe people hate edrags because without them their villages won’t be as 3 starred as often
it's so boring to watch my teammates only use E drags on all of our previous wars.
Edrag spam works less and less starting at th13. It still is decent but you’re not gonna 3 star using it. I think edrags need a slight nerf but defensively at 13 up handles them pretty well.
After getting hit by 10 Edrags spams and most of them failed their attack then a skilled QCharge LaLo user 3 starred me. It is like breathing fresh air again after inhaling toxic fumes in a factory.
I used them to farm resources because they can 2 star bases even without heroes while not using your brain because they are just so strong. I dont use them for clan war because Im not familiar on how their chain lightning works (because I just turn my brain off and spread edrags like a lunatic). Dragons are much easier to use since I got used to them in Th7.
As an air attacker main I can tell you that edrags at th 15 are far from easy. Since the chains are so unpredictable it isn't rare for them to just fly outside the base. I found that edrags are very strong until the town hall falls, then they are like "nice, GG" and then die😂
Plus Monolith is absolutely perfect at dealing with them
Actually if you take into consideration with how many defenses and traps that can target the air troops, the Electro Dragon is actually not over powered at ALL.
The issue is that you can simply lightning spam air defenses,and the other defenses simply arent powerful enough to defend against mass E drags.
@@neongaming8818 That's partially true, in reality the bane is the single target infernos, eagle artillery ( if in range ), scattershot, monolith, Grand Warden, Archer Queen, Royal Champion, Air Defense (ironically), Seeking Air Mines, Air Bombs, Air Sweeper, Archer Towers, and Wizard Towers
@@dr.toxicgamingmadscientist That’s also partially true,which makes th11 and partially th12 particularly annoying,as eagle artillery and single infernos are the only real options.
@@neongaming8818 The Seeking Air Mines are almost always a direct hidden counter since they tend to usually ko any E dragons as they'll likely be damaged during the raid
@@dr.toxicgamingmadscientist true
They should decrease edrag's damage by chain cause in rage it just clears all building in a chain as well as air sweeper not even getting any levels or something
They should buff them for higher townhalls because they aren’t really that good on th15
@@sarjigamer skill issue
@@Ryuk_God_of_death?
Th15 is meant to be a skill-based TH. If you reached Th15 and still using Edrags as your main attack then you are playing the game really wrong@@sarjigamer
Well there is a positive of Electrodragon. Positive is that defenses were getting designed in compact way and it was becoming very overwhelming for attackers to attack a compact defense of pro players.
0:42 They did the same thing with Yetis and the root rider. Yetis being clearly TownHall 13 themed but being unlocked at TownHall 12, and Root Riders being clearly TownHall 16 themed but being unlocked at TownHall 15. Idk why they do this.
I mean the E dragon can literally hit biuldings that can't hit him back because they are to far away being sniped. That is what makes it broken.
I’m th11 and e drags have really taken over the meta at this level.
And the fact people who are th12 are using them against me tells me it’s no different at that level either.
yes th11 and 12 use e drags mainly th13 people use different comps bc of royal champion.
I personally don't like using E-drags, I use a go-wipe army setup, and as I increase army space, I'll add or swap out troops to keep it balanced and stron
I have a guy in TH15 that uses nothing but edrags, and he always barely gets 2 stars with it. I'm going to have him removed from war mostly because the difference between his hero levels is too high (80 on queen but 43 on King). He needs to work on his heroes more, and also I want him to start using the air seige machines because whenever he uses the log he doesn't really know how to properly use it.
As a player who's been literally spamming edrags for 3 years straight..... I see this as an absolute win
i like using edrags with a queen walk and using rage spells+ freeze spells...
this strategy works most of the time to get very easy 3 stars since the queen walk can be used to take the eagle or the inferno towers wich are the only real problem
you know when troops still costed elixer... a 300K all edrag raid wasnt worth to me, but now everyone does it cuz it costs nothing!
My edrag army was 500k💀. At some point I only attacked bases which had above 800K in loot. I never cared about trophies. Now all troops are free so I never look at the loot, Only the tophies.
They arent overpowered at all. Everyone who says that is just some rushed kid wondering why he keeps getting 3 star'd
Spamming lightning spells to my max level air defence and then spamming e-drags is brainless :D i dont understand how they haven nerfed lightning spell spam
@@MrOzzku100 you are right everyone should only get 1 star from now on.
@@Masterchief_TitoIf u think lightning spell/ e-drag combo is not overpowered and dumb i literally have no words
@@MrOzzku100 idc if I get raided lol. All I care about is raiding others. Also you still have your infernos which do a good job against infernos.
It's definitely not op, with right base design most of the time they'll get 2 stars at max
Look we have to understand one thing is not every player spent 2,3 hours in coc and not everyone is pro..
So the point is supercell wants players to leave coc who don't have good skills..
That's why they introduced powerful troop with low level skills so everyone can play game
Edrags for funneling. Spam for newbies.
30 housing space for funneling is a lot. Baby Dragon is another alternative
@@JohnKurniawaaanmainly the chain lightning and durability
Baby drags can get taken out easily, and if edrags can't be used, you can resort to using a pekka, same thing
Mostly when people use heavy troops like these for funnelling, they aldready have everything they need, so they aren't pressed for space, it doesn't really matter if you don't use it
Baby drags are better for funneling since they take 10 space only. But in some cases, there are buildings that are clustered in the corner and there are defenses in the area, Edrag can easily destroy it without dying too early..
Been a veteran player since 2016,took a break from 2020-23 , suddenly when i reinstalled the game and got ud back via super cell ,i personally feel this troop combo killed the creative attacks in th11 above players , most of the pushers are blindly sticking to this strategy.. noobs in the clan without proper strategies are blindly spamming the bases with eds !! Govoho ,govawi and miner combo attacks were fun in 2019 . Somehow i don't see the kick in the game anymore.
You want us to use Valkyries in th 11💀
Why does the edrag in the thumbnail look faded
The Legendary LAZY DRAGON.....EDRAGS" 🤣👏
You cant blame the strat for being effective in the meta with majority of the bases being compact type. Whereas if the meta of bases were spread then everyone would start complaining about GoWipe attacks 😂
"Sometimes, I forget Lavaloons are available during Halloween, so I cook E-Drags"
- LawrieDaBadCop, 2023 and 2024
as a e dragplayer it too easy to win a game atleast 1 star in sleep
For me it’s not the edrags that are the annoying part it’s when they can take out all my air defense with just lightning spells
It's only op in its tier, just like how balloons are op when unlocked and when heroes are unlocked. Game encourages you to use the new troop but as you progress to higher levels the advantage gained is lessened
It's Supercell's fault not the players, the less skilled players are basically forced to use edrags or they wont do well in attacks, nobody can fix it but Supercell.
At least e drag spammer rarely get a 100% destroy rate, that's why i use magic Archer and invisible spell rather than spamming lightning
What makes the e drag so broken is not only can you no skill spam them, but they do everything. Funneling, cleanup? They do it all
The reason why it was released at th11 is because when a troop releases is it on the second highest th at the time. So for exampel when th16 realses a new troop needs to come out at th15 because there is troop at th15. Electro Titan was realsed at th14
i love E-Drags
What the complaining people don't understand is that this attack actually need brain cells to win otherwise you gonna get 2 star 70% and more not a three star attack
That what bothers me
When everyone in cwl uses e drag and most bases are anti e drag. Then they get 1 or 2 stars. Like either learn how to make an good edrag attack or learn another easy strategy which can easily 3 star like superbowlersmash
Thats the problem,they don't use brain cells
So by your own admission, you could get 2 stars with this strategy without even thinking? And you are trying to frame that as if that's somehow a undesirable result?
@@hell1942 you should always aim for 3 stars. Two stars arent the end of the world, but when everyone two stars you miss 1 third of the stars which is really bad.
A two star isnt bad, but your attack still failed, if you didn’t 3 star
Also there are really easy attacks that can consistently 3 star like superbarch or superbowlersmash
@@marweha7002 simply disagree, 2 stars is amazing, 3 stars is perfect
2 stars is still pretty good
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At TH11 I mostly used a composition of 7 normal dragons and 4 edragons with 6 lightning spells, 3 earthquake, and 1 rage. It worked good and was pretty much a guaranteed 2 star on maxed out TH11's as long as i had my heroes. I found ground troops just suck at TH11. I just moved onto TH12 and plan on switching over to a ground troop meta with siege now being unlocked for me
At th12+, e-drag span is pretty bad. Our clan usually laughs when we go against a clan full of e-drag spammers since they always fail the attack
Ground armies are great at th11. When I was there I would use an army made up of witches, bowlers, ice golems, and bat spells. I don’t think I ever missed a 3-star with it
Pekka Bowler with Log Launcher is just as effective at TH11 as it is at TH10. You're just not experimenting enough
Tbh Quake GoWiBow + Loglauncher Ice golem is still effective in th11 to get 3 stars. You just have to depend on your warden ability to keep the bowlers alive
@@MintedWhim727 I play Pekabowler with a Queen walk. As long as the damn Pekkas don't get some crazy pathing, the bolwers should be fine
I prefer the brain dead method of attacking because I'm a casual player. 8 electro dragons, 16 balloons, 6 haste, 4 freeze and 1 poison, log launcher which may or may not have an edrag and some balloons. As a maxed out TH15 player, I pretty consistently get at least 2 stars on any base I attack. The key is to make sure your attack is as concentrated as possible and not let the edrags get carried away. On the chance they do get distracted and fail to get the town hall, in most cases half the base has been cleared already so it's safe for me to send in my Archer queen at the end to take out the Town Hall.
Rage is better than haste for edrags
Haste helps balloons and you can cover more area since you get 2x slots vs 1x for rage. edrags and balloons are very slow otherwise.@@justsomeguywithoutabeard8306
bro dragon spam has been in the game since day 1 this is just the evolution
i made a full anti edrag base, i win defenses 1/3 of times against edrag army, IN TH15!
it kinda works against new op baloon troop too, but sadly i didn't upgrade the poison thrower thingy(still rage lvl)
the higher hitpoints targeting is a buff if you make ur base in a way that would make them go for the worse defenses/buildings
I'm using eDrags with balloons in Legends League at TH14 and always getting two stars against TH15/16s. Pimped out TH15/16s too. And I just got two 3 star attacks on TH14 bases in today's clan war.
I take out a sweeper using lightning spells. I use one balloon on the corners and the center to trip any air bombs or to take out any archer towers that get rando put out on the edge. If I see open spaces in the base, I will drop a balloon in it because people think they are clever and usually put their air bombs there. Then I drop two eDrags on each corner to create a funnel, drop my remaining balloons in the center with the remaining four eDrags/Warden. Pop the Warden, drop two rage spells so that the balloons take out some of the nasty stuff and send the King and Queen straight down the center. Drop the Champion on whichever side they will have the best effect.
Weird how they also used to say the same about regular dragons..
Hey! Just wanted to say I recently found your channel and really like your videos
I think electro spam is good if you can't get cc troops, i personally use super archer clone bomb in wars so i need donation for every attack
But still i think yeti spam is much better than e drag spam
Once i finished my actually good defense all that i got in return were majority E-drag spams.
It's funny because if you seperate your inferno towers, air defense and air sweeper in your main base and set all inferno towers to single, You're basically not gonna get attacked because most of these people just spam them anyways.
This only happens between th 11-13 in th14 people actually use skills
When i copy a base i always make sure that its good against e drag and farming army's
aka set the xbow to air and ground and inferno to multi
I don’t use edrags but really how strategic it is depends on how you use it,if you spam it isn’t really strategic but if you just use it for funneling it’s not bad
I love E dragons! It's makes attacks so easy+
I remember a e drag was in a clan castle when I was a lower town hall it wiped my whole raid
TBH I believe that E Drag spam its nothing but a disease, and I say it because I have been using taht strat only for a lot of time already due how easy is to play it but now im basically disabled bc if i try to use a more complex strategy I just get really confused so basically its like a cursed weapon that once u hold it u cant get rid of it
Strong bases on online websites that counter strats or are straight up copied from worlds or similar have always existed and Edrags are really easy to defend and barely used at high level nowadays, while they were not used at all back when Th12 was around for a while. And as a defending troop the Edrag is actually one of the worst troops you could have, makes it much worse that so many throw edrags in thinking it will do something.
The game needs a troop like this because if it actually took strategy to play then they wouldn't have as many players
What let’s me uncomfortable is the fact that as soon as you cross the 4500 you get attacked over and over by the same EDrag
These new lavaloon troops are more OP I’ve been able to 3 star town halls that are 2 levels above me. It doesn’t require much strategy. And it takes only 30 minutes to train. It’s even less when you have training boosts.
im shocked this guy doesnt have +150k subs, really good video bro
Normal dragon > electro dragon
E drag is one of the worst troops in the game and is never used competitively. As long as you make a decent base electrodragons will rarely 3 star. Getting a 3 star with a troop as bad as edrag actually requires alot of skill.
It’s a troop that isn’t very good but very good if you don’t want to think like me and just want to play the game casually for 1-2 stars
Honestly I am much of a casual player so I just get myself to stick with edrag spam but tbh sometimes this strategy actually faile when the buildings are on a two tile gap but still it gets around 2 stars everytime I attack. Also, when heroes are upgrading this strategy seemed only the viable one
It took me some time but I switched it to Super-Drag Spam. And with Stone slammer, I have scored 3 stars consistently
E dragons never got nerfed in history to this day
its always the casuals bro
I have used electro dragon since town hall 11 I am now on 12 I never once used another army only electro drag 😅
It’s only annoying to me when someone uses them in war because they’re just not effective at th15.
Honestly with siege machines you can easily 2 stars any bases, heck I consistently 2 star a th 14 as a th12 because of siege machine. Now the problem is getting a 3 star which is almost impossible with just mindless edrag spammer that don't even funnel their shit and don't zap the air sweeper like bruh
What bothers me the most is that dragon spam can pretty much guarantee a 3 star on any base from th 7-10 and arguably even higher... And then e-drags which are basically the same thing but blue and stronger guarantee a 3 star on most bases from th 11-13 at least. I've seen mass normie drag work on these too and even th 14's... So esentially there is 1 strategy, using 1 troop, that carries you through about 95% of the game or more given how little time you spend before th7... and it hasn't changed for over 10 years.
I quit playing for 8 years, and I come back and to my dismay dragon spam is STILL one of the most common and best attacks... Except now it 3 stars at th 10 and above too.
I dislike the complete removal of all and any incentive to learn new things. I learned lavaloonion back in my day, that's still my go-to, but I was proficient enough with hogs, go wiwi and more. We were incentiviced to learn versitile strats that weren't too hard, but weren't too easy.
just keep two tile gape for your important defenses and electro dragon attack will fail
Man your voice is sleepy really good before sleep 😂
I dont know how to properly attack in CoC, but ever since Im using E-Drags, I average 2-3 Stars even against bases better than my own (Im mid TH12). Its pretty easy to use but also fun, but once im TH13 I’ll switch to learning a proper attack.
As a fully maxed th15 edrags are just mid ez two star tho 3 star needs precision spell/troop placement funneling and favorable base
I started using edrags cause I was tired of getting steamrolled by them and I needed a new army anyway, they may be very easy to use but their chain lightning is extremely satisfying to see
it’s especially annoying in higher leagues when pushing i’m at titan 2 and 99% of them are edrag spammers and just non stop freezing everything
I think that e-drag spam us just the same as the zap dragon strategy inbthe lower levels. Use of them is a disgrace to me, making me feel like a nine year old attacking
As someone who is usually fairly busy I love electro dragons
I don’t believe edrags are no skill. When people spam them in a random spot, Lightning and lightning the ad, it definitely is, but using them surgically, where you clear a section of the base first is definitely harder but more effective.
thats not what its about, its about brailessly being able to get 2 stars secured