Go for it Chloe !!! I ran for Portland City Commission twice when I lived there (06 > 11). I ran on the housing crisis, saying that Portland needed Rent Control and also a small house movement for housing the homeless. Good luck. Call me if you want any help, stories, etc. PLEASE feel free to use my name as an endorsement, Edward Garren, LMFT, Co-Chair of Hayden Island Plan Steering Committee, Founder of H.I.L.P. (Hayden Island Livability project), Environmental Justice Activist.
i had a hotel room for a little over a month, and came to the conclusion that if i slept in my car for 2 weeks, i could get a decent place to stay, at 1/2 the cost. it totally changed my views on homelessness and economics dramatically. Also i learned never to buy a high end Saab that's over 20 years old when you decide you are going looking for greener pastures...But, would i do it all over again, probably
I lived in New Orleans for 16 years and was there thru Katrina. The rents jumped ~300% after the storm and the secondary flooding. This young woman you're interviewing is remarkably strong and upbeat. Bless you both. Great interview!
Jordan, You are a credit to TYT and quality reporting of the issues that affect ordinary folks Well done! As an Australian with our own Federal elections just around the corner one could only wish we could have TYT Politics here in OZ reporting on the facts and issues affecting every day Australians ;)
Central Canada has experienced a ridiculous increase in housing prices over the last 20 years - for absolutely no good reason. People with too much money, looking for cheap rental properties, started out-bidding each other on every single condo, then house, until prices started doubling - first in Alberta, then in Saskatchewan. I watched prices go up 300% in my town (along with my property taxes) and decided to bail because there wasn't any more money to be made, just higher costs to be incurred - but lots of people started flocking to the cities (urbanization) thinking they had to grab a condo and get in on the rush (a cost rush, not an income rush). I've found a good wage/rent ratio in Eastern Canada, but I'm actually looking at converting a van to allow me to relocate more spontaneously to keep surfing the wage/rent ratio. Not sure if I'll buy real estate again in this market. The ability to rapidly relocate is far more valuable, in my opinion - and real estate HAS to crash eventually (though I thought that time was 6 or 7 years ago).
standard of living, living wages and rent control are some of the biggest issues I keep in mind with voting. It's becoming so clear to me that this 2 party system is not only detrimental but they're so similar it almost doesn't matter if you have a rep going against a corporate dem.
no doubt, i study economics because its a philosophical stance on social issues and mathematics that can be scientifically studied , and one issue that i came across is that most OECD nations have multiple parties that stand for different viewpoints, one of these parties is the labour party that represent workers, because of this party, minimum wages are more easily adjusted to reflect inflation and market fluctuations, and because of this the standard of living tends to increase across all boards. The US is sooo far behind
Hello from Portland! A couple months after moving into my questionably-legal-to-rent duplex, I was privileged to overhear a screaming match between a neighbor and her landlady wherein the tenant was told quite simply, "At current market value, I can get way more rent than you're paying now. If you can't pay it, you're out!!"
Questionably-rentable = bathroom is literally 2' wide (standing shower only), no closets, doors are weirdly narrow. Building was built in 1921, so I imagine it's "grandfathered" in to get around accessibility regulations, but I don't understand how a building with no cupboards or closets is a home, and not a shed. It's a shed with a kitchenette, but a shed it remains, nonetheless.
The difference between a big city and a smaller city. My most expensive rental dwelling is 2 stories, front and back deck, 5 bedroom, heat pump, off road parking, 1,800 sq ft -- $650/mo. I'm from NC. *half mile from hospital, 2 blocks from the main street, safe neighborhood, 3/4ths acre lot
Living in a shed will be a challenge for many reasons, local code compliance is first place winner likely. Sewage and water supply being secondary and power third. I don't think it's fair to a child to raise in this kind of home. Small homes here are limited to a minimum of around 900 square feet......that's a pretty substantial shed for sure and all the other requirements like connection to the city water and sewage.......and I am in rural part of the county. The rules are the key to this even being viable and within proximity to your work.
In the UK the housing crisis resembles the problem to that of the 1970's. There are no affordable housing and rents that is well beyond those on low income.
Yep, I live in a relatively wealthy commuter town approx 30 mins outside of London and despite working 40-50 hours a week I'm finding it impossible to find somewhere affordable. I'm currently living with my parents (I am one of the lucky ones) because the cheapest housing I can find (substandard would be putting it politely) is around £500- £600 not including bills, and the prices just keep rising!
+Esme Owens don't feel bad . i live with my mother to. alot of my friends with with their parents. in NYC rent or one bed room is 1200 dollars. help pay your parents bills and stay focus on your dreams.
rent control is the problem. its the reason developers are incentivized to only develop luxury property. and if taxes werent so high, gentrification wouldnt be such a thing in the first place. study after study has come to the same conclusion. statism *_is_* the tragedy of the commons.
Just looked into moving to Portland, still 400-800 bucks cheaper per month than where I live now. Earning potential isn't high here either, unless you sell drugs.
In LA, there are many rents for 1 bedroom apartments that I would consider impossible to pay for with a single income. I have a rather good job and income, I think, and I often found myself not even considering many available apartments because I would have needed two incomes to pay for it without having to pay almost half my month's income. (And most of the time, utilities weren't included...) It's so sad. It reminds me of the Two Income Trap by Elizabeth Warren. A one bedroom, in many cases, is only affordable for a couple to split the cost. :\
Look at Arkansas' and you may find yourself more fortunate. There they can kick you out with a 3 day notice only because you mention that something is wrong with your house... Makes you wonder when Americans ever gave a fuck about American value...
john carlisle yep, I live in Arkansas and the tenant laws here are ridiculous, and if you want to move, it's generally 1300$ per month with a 1300$ deposit and hell fire if you have a dog it's 400-500$ non-refundable deposit. And after all that, they can evict you for pretty much any reason... and oh yeah, almost everyone here pays more than 50% of their income for rent... absolute nightmare state
I wouldn't live in Portland if my life depended on it. Its a shithole full of entitled asshats who are so full of themselves they made me want to punch them in their mouths. Unless you are rich or a junkie willing to live homeless why would you want to live there?
got news for ya sweetheart .... *_THE RENTS ARE SKYROCKETING BECAUSE PROPERTY TAXES ARE!!!_* YOUR PUBLIC SECTOR UNION IS OUT OF CONTROL!!! your politicians are vote-buying and they are behind all this hell you are living through. _hear me now and believe me later, statism _*_is_*_ the tragedy of the commons._
I never paid 800 for rent. And I will never pay that much unless I will own it. Come to the south 1 bedroom is like 6 to 700 if my rent was that high they will need to pay me 25 an hour at work. How do you have time to enjoy life if you do busy working trying to pay for something you will never own.
rent went up in Portland, Noo they are so Liberal though! 2) Rent control right? and that's the problem with trying to give everyone everything with no requirement on their part. 3) If salaries go up so then does the cost of living, over time.
CAN WE LEAVE GOD OUT OF THE SHED PLZZZ FOR US CHRISTIANS.... PLZZZ............ I TO BEEN LOOK'N INTO SHED'S MYSELF HERE IN OHIO.... I HOPE SOME ONE DOES ALL U DO FOR OHIO
Any city with a decent infrastructure, i.e. one designed with good public transportation, open public spaces, and places to bike and walk will be partially appropriated by the new upper class and see higher cost of living as a result. Portland is a lot like other victims of this. The process cannot be stopped at the outcome end, at the point of lease, because there is just no practical way to do it without rent controlling. You can't tell someone willing to spend way more than the recent historical average that they can't because they haven't contributed to the tax base enough, or to the organizing of the city up to that point, or because they're just not wanted by the majority. Just give up. I'm not one to say that usually, but there is no move you can make here. It's better to just move. Not wasting energy on this is the smarter option.
Thats defeatist. Creative folks could organize tenant unions and come up with something like a rent strike to force some change. Something has got to give this is happpening all over the country. The rent is too damn high!
Rent too damn high indeed. Look I'm the least practical person when it comes to these things. I don't like to give up, but the methods available are just futile compared to what you are going up against. Younger high income people have discovered that they like progressive or community friendly infrastructure and they are going to force out those who have been there and take it for themselves, driving up rents and filling their demand for some culturally revolting installations as well. Maybe I shouldn't say "there is no solution possible" but the challenge is something like making a rule like "only certain people who have been here can buy this thing and at this price point." You just can't do that in America. The only way to preserve character and price of a neighborhood is through ownership, and if progressives were about owning apartment buildings they would be yuppies instead.
Why do you feel entitled to live in some place and pay less rent than the owner and other potential tenants are willing to pay? Fact is that your "creative folks" simply won't exist in the real world. People with rents have jobs and not any time to be wasting with a "rent strike" that is illegal and will result in eviction. Move somewhere else instead of trying to demand owners to take less money because you can't afford the area.
There is an argument that long time residents, through collected investment of civic efforts and lots of their tax money, have a claim to the preservation of the city plan which includes availability of living spaces to a range of occupations. Such a plan would necessarily consider the income levels of those occupations. For example, a recent factoid I heard was that now there weren't any houses in San Francisco that are affordable on a teacher's salary. Maybe I invested in city taxes and the politics of a city because I wanted a place that would allow teachers and others of that income level. My investment means nothing because it wasn't in the form of building ownership?
yep, looks like she works in a little bookstore & wonders why she can't afford nothing. wanting to force a developer to affordable housing, apparently it's affordable to someone. This is just like a insurance complaint the other day, nothing is stopping you or any other liberal from building cheap houses or a not for profit health insurance.
I lived in New Orleans for 16 years and was there thru Katrina. The rents jumped ~300% after the storm and the secondary flooding. This young woman you're interviewing is remarkably strong and upbeat. Bless you both. Great interview!
Go for it Chloe !!! I ran for Portland City Commission twice when I lived there (06 > 11). I ran on the housing crisis, saying that Portland needed Rent Control and also a small house movement for housing the homeless. Good luck. Call me if you want any help, stories, etc. PLEASE feel free to use my name as an endorsement, Edward Garren, LMFT, Co-Chair of Hayden Island Plan Steering Committee, Founder of H.I.L.P. (Hayden Island Livability project), Environmental Justice Activist.
You give me the Bern - keep it coming.
Thanks for caring, really.
I've paid rent on a garden shed before. It was clearly wrong, but I was happy to have a home I could afford.
i had a hotel room for a little over a month, and came to the conclusion that if i slept in my car for 2 weeks, i could get a decent place to stay, at 1/2 the cost. it totally changed my views on homelessness and economics dramatically. Also i learned never to buy a high end Saab that's over 20 years old when you decide you are going looking for greener pastures...But, would i do it all over again, probably
Yet another excellent story being brought to light by TYT. Affordable housing seems to be a theme across the nation.
Glad you liked! -Jordan
The rent is too damn high.
Jordan, you are by far the best journalist I've found. thanks
Thanks for the compliment -Jordan
I'm so thankful you are bringing these stories to light Jordan! No one seems to have to attention for things like this, anymore.
I am now a fan of Chloe Eudaly for City Commissioner of Portland! Cheers from Stockton, California!
I lived in New Orleans for 16 years and was there thru Katrina. The rents jumped ~300% after the storm and the secondary flooding. This young woman you're interviewing is remarkably strong and upbeat. Bless you both. Great interview!
Jordan,
You are a credit to TYT and quality reporting of the issues that affect ordinary folks
Well done!
As an Australian with our own Federal elections just around the corner one could only wish we could have TYT Politics here in OZ reporting on the facts and issues affecting every day Australians ;)
She is really well spoken
All our goddamn money is being captured by literal rent-seeking, but for some reason we ignore it.
Central Canada has experienced a ridiculous increase in housing prices over the last 20 years - for absolutely no good reason. People with too much money, looking for cheap rental properties, started out-bidding each other on every single condo, then house, until prices started doubling - first in Alberta, then in Saskatchewan. I watched prices go up 300% in my town (along with my property taxes) and decided to bail because there wasn't any more money to be made, just higher costs to be incurred - but lots of people started flocking to the cities (urbanization) thinking they had to grab a condo and get in on the rush (a cost rush, not an income rush).
I've found a good wage/rent ratio in Eastern Canada, but I'm actually looking at converting a van to allow me to relocate more spontaneously to keep surfing the wage/rent ratio. Not sure if I'll buy real estate again in this market. The ability to rapidly relocate is far more valuable, in my opinion - and real estate HAS to crash eventually (though I thought that time was 6 or 7 years ago).
The proper solution to the problem is not increased regulation, but Land Value Taxes and Citizens' Dividends.
1910 called, they want their obsolete theories back :-P
+Higgins2001 tell them im busy lol
standard of living, living wages and rent control are some of the biggest issues I keep in mind with voting. It's becoming so clear to me that this 2 party system is not only detrimental but they're so similar it almost doesn't matter if you have a rep going against a corporate dem.
no doubt, i study economics because its a philosophical stance on social issues and mathematics that can be scientifically studied , and one issue that i came across is that most OECD nations have multiple parties that stand for different viewpoints, one of these parties is the labour party that represent workers, because of this party, minimum wages are more easily adjusted to reflect inflation and market fluctuations, and because of this the standard of living tends to increase across all boards. The US is sooo far behind
Hello from Portland!
A couple months after moving into my questionably-legal-to-rent duplex, I was privileged to overhear a screaming match between a neighbor and her landlady wherein the tenant was told quite simply, "At current market value, I can get way more rent than you're paying now. If you can't pay it, you're out!!"
Questionably-rentable = bathroom is literally 2' wide (standing shower only), no closets, doors are weirdly narrow. Building was built in 1921, so I imagine it's "grandfathered" in to get around accessibility regulations, but I don't understand how a building with no cupboards or closets is a home, and not a shed. It's a shed with a kitchenette, but a shed it remains, nonetheless.
The difference between a big city and a smaller city. My most expensive rental dwelling is 2 stories, front and back deck, 5 bedroom, heat pump, off road parking, 1,800 sq ft -- $650/mo. I'm from NC.
*half mile from hospital, 2 blocks from the main street, safe neighborhood, 3/4ths acre lot
Another great segment from TYT politics
damn....calling it like it is at the end there....another amazing piece. keep up the amazing work guys!
wow this is some great reporting! you wouldn't find them talking about things like this on the MSM. keep up the good work!
The rent is too damn high!
Love this shit Jordan....keep up the good work. Power to the people!!
Living in a shed will be a challenge for many reasons, local code compliance is first place winner likely. Sewage and water supply being secondary and power third. I don't think it's fair to a child to raise in this kind of home. Small homes here are limited to a minimum of around 900 square feet......that's a pretty substantial shed for sure and all the other requirements like connection to the city water and sewage.......and I am in rural part of the county. The rules are the key to this even being viable and within proximity to your work.
In the UK the housing crisis resembles the problem to that of the 1970's.
There are no affordable housing and rents that is well beyond those on low income.
Yep, I live in a relatively wealthy commuter town approx 30 mins outside of London and despite working 40-50 hours a week I'm finding it impossible to find somewhere affordable. I'm currently living with my parents (I am one of the lucky ones) because the cheapest housing I can find (substandard would be putting it politely) is around £500- £600 not including bills, and the prices just keep rising!
+Esme Owens don't feel bad . i live with my mother to. alot of my friends with with their parents. in NYC rent or one bed room is 1200 dollars. help pay your parents bills and stay focus on your dreams.
I knew nothing about Portland, until now.
Rent control should be a thing EVERYWHERE
rent control is the problem. its the reason developers are incentivized to only develop luxury property. and if taxes werent so high, gentrification wouldnt be such a thing in the first place. study after study has come to the same conclusion. statism *_is_* the tragedy of the commons.
Hope she gets on the council. Affordable housing is a major issue all around the country & many people need help on this.
Talk about a return on investment for a shed. 🤑
Awesome interview guys, big Jon bx. nyc.
How she said at the end that she didn't feel like Oregon deserved it's progressive badge, I feel the same way about my state of Massachusetts.
Just looked into moving to Portland, still 400-800 bucks cheaper per month than where I live now. Earning potential isn't high here either, unless you sell drugs.
100k subscribers... Whispers of a dream...
In LA, there are many rents for 1 bedroom apartments that I would consider impossible to pay for with a single income. I have a rather good job and income, I think, and I often found myself not even considering many available apartments because I would have needed two incomes to pay for it without having to pay almost half my month's income. (And most of the time, utilities weren't included...) It's so sad. It reminds me of the Two Income Trap by Elizabeth Warren. A one bedroom, in many cases, is only affordable for a couple to split the cost. :\
It's Portlandia's fault!
Smart lady.
The only way to resolve the rent crisis in most of these American cities is to have pro development policies.
wow this is nuts.
think its high now.. wait till min wage doubles
thats why buying land or investing in a home is the first investment someone should make. not a fucking new car or a boat.
Hey everyone, stay out of Portland! It sucks and rains a lot. I promise you won't like it.
Look at Arkansas' and you may find yourself more fortunate. There they can kick you out with a 3 day notice only because you mention that something is wrong with your house... Makes you wonder when Americans ever gave a fuck about American value...
john carlisle yep, I live in Arkansas and the tenant laws here are ridiculous, and if you want to move, it's generally 1300$ per month with a 1300$ deposit and hell fire if you have a dog it's 400-500$ non-refundable deposit. And after all that, they can evict you for pretty much any reason... and oh yeah, almost everyone here pays more than 50% of their income for rent... absolute nightmare state
That is in hawthorne and not normal. But I guess facts and reason means nothing when greed comes into play.
Where is part 2 ?
She's pretty smart for a broke person.
gee, sounds a lot like Florida too.
I wouldn't live in Portland if my life depended on it. Its a shithole full of entitled asshats who are so full of themselves they made me want to punch them in their mouths. Unless you are rich or a junkie willing to live homeless why would you want to live there?
got news for ya sweetheart .... *_THE RENTS ARE SKYROCKETING BECAUSE PROPERTY TAXES ARE!!!_* YOUR PUBLIC SECTOR UNION IS OUT OF CONTROL!!! your politicians are vote-buying and they are behind all this hell you are living through. _hear me now and believe me later, statism _*_is_*_ the tragedy of the commons._
I live in a shit basement toilet doesn't have its own room and shower is just 2x4s with plastic paneling nailed to it.
and I pay 800
and I pay 800
***** at least I think I killed all the rats a couple of months ago.
I never paid 800 for rent. And I will never pay that much unless I will own it. Come to the south 1 bedroom is like 6 to 700 if my rent was that high they will need to pay me 25 an hour at work. How do you have time to enjoy life if you do busy working trying to pay for something you will never own.
jonathan pauldo I don't I'm essentially a slave. I make about 13 an hour and consistently have to budget food.
rent went up in Portland, Noo they are so Liberal though! 2) Rent control right? and that's the problem with trying to give everyone everything with no requirement on their part. 3) If salaries go up so then does the cost of living, over time.
CAN WE LEAVE GOD OUT OF THE SHED PLZZZ FOR US CHRISTIANS.... PLZZZ............ I TO BEEN LOOK'N INTO SHED'S MYSELF HERE IN OHIO.... I HOPE SOME ONE DOES ALL U DO FOR OHIO
Any city with a decent infrastructure, i.e. one designed with good public transportation, open public spaces, and places to bike and walk will be partially appropriated by the new upper class and see higher cost of living as a result. Portland is a lot like other victims of this. The process cannot be stopped at the outcome end, at the point of lease, because there is just no practical way to do it without rent controlling. You can't tell someone willing to spend way more than the recent historical average that they can't because they haven't contributed to the tax base enough, or to the organizing of the city up to that point, or because they're just not wanted by the majority.
Just give up. I'm not one to say that usually, but there is no move you can make here. It's better to just move. Not wasting energy on this is the smarter option.
Thats defeatist. Creative folks could organize tenant unions and come up with something like a rent strike to force some change. Something has got to give this is happpening all over the country. The rent is too damn high!
Rent too damn high indeed. Look I'm the least practical person when it comes to these things. I don't like to give up, but the methods available are just futile compared to what you are going up against. Younger high income people have discovered that they like progressive or community friendly infrastructure and they are going to force out those who have been there and take it for themselves, driving up rents and filling their demand for some culturally revolting installations as well.
Maybe I shouldn't say "there is no solution possible" but the challenge is something like making a rule like "only certain people who have been here can buy this thing and at this price point." You just can't do that in America. The only way to preserve character and price of a neighborhood is through ownership, and if progressives were about owning apartment buildings they would be yuppies instead.
Why do you feel entitled to live in some place and pay less rent than the owner and other potential tenants are willing to pay? Fact is that your "creative folks" simply won't exist in the real world. People with rents have jobs and not any time to be wasting with a "rent strike" that is illegal and will result in eviction. Move somewhere else instead of trying to demand owners to take less money because you can't afford the area.
There is an argument that long time residents, through collected investment of civic efforts and lots of their tax money, have a claim to the preservation of the city plan which includes availability of living spaces to a range of occupations. Such a plan would necessarily consider the income levels of those occupations. For example, a recent factoid I heard was that now there weren't any houses in San Francisco that are affordable on a teacher's salary. Maybe I invested in city taxes and the politics of a city because I wanted a place that would allow teachers and others of that income level. My investment means nothing because it wasn't in the form of building ownership?
too bad you didn't get to ask chloe about the UNPAID "interns" she had in her bookstore running the cash register, ect (Illegal in Oregon btw)
Landdddddddd of the greed. Homeeee of the slaveeeeeeeeee.
Van down by the river?
hey at least they won''t go to prison for smoking weed...
When did they ban inclusionary zoning?
Was the profanity really necessary?
GOOGLE HOUSING IS COMING.
Awesome lady but no pic of the inside !
You really need to learn some economics, preferably from the Georgist school. Read 'Progress and Poverty" ASAP.
next thing you'll say is that employee owned businesses can be profitable... OH! wait they can WTF, Mises and the Koch brothers say...
Thanks for the reference.
That title tho
Why the blasphemy? What did the shed do to you ?
Sad, are you'll allowed to vote ?
everything she says... I agree with, but for some terribly ingrained reason I cannot stand the way she speaks... am I buggin??
James Chatman naw ur right man she is one of those for sure
well that's a shame that you all Damn God.I pray for you all and am Sorry for y'all lack of respect for God and others.
this womans a statist. she juat will never get it.thats why she will always be homeless.ahea blaming other people for her not having any forsight ever
yep, looks like she works in a little bookstore & wonders why she can't afford nothing. wanting to force a developer to affordable housing, apparently it's affordable to someone. This is just like a insurance complaint the other day, nothing is stopping you or any other liberal from building cheap houses or a not for profit health insurance.
You're right. Reading is so over rated. If you want to hold public office today, it's important to be completely illiterate.
I lived in New Orleans for 16 years and was there thru Katrina. The rents jumped ~300% after the storm and the secondary flooding. This young woman you're interviewing is remarkably strong and upbeat. Bless you both. Great interview!
***** Please explain 'housing bubble' as you see it. Thanks!
spoken from a true realtor !!! Oh hell no.... of course it's not GREED !!! LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL ..never