That limousine always bugged me. "Oh, we need over 500 pounds for it to start tilting at all!" Yeah, that means it was NOT on the balance point, just close to it.
its far worse. you literally see they are like 10cm in front of the "knife edge" point, so no way in hell that thing would have moved. the corner needed to be in between those lines. edit: assuming the size is standard across the pond: 5cm per tape, 3,5 tapes width from the center of the "edge" tape to the actual edge would mean they were 17,5 cm off. 43:46 shows this very clear.
I agree. The physics is straightforward: once you have a perfectly balanced system a small additional force will unbalance it. If that system is unstable, a minute force can be sufficient to cause substantial deviation. I suspect the team were attempting to mitigate uncontrolled forces, such as wind and potentially shifting material. Hence they set the car far enough back to keep it stable, unfortunately undermining the test itself in attempt to be cautious. A repeat would likely need the car to be suspended with safety ropes, much like a climber. The ropes are kept slack unless the car tips, allowing the experiment to be reset after successful attempts and thus enabling a more precarious balance point.
I think they bust the myth, not because it takes more force than expected to tilt the car over, but because what they really demonstrate is that it's basically impossible to get a car balanced that finely. Way too many variables, from wind to metal deforming under pressure to fluids sloshing around to...
I was thinking the same thing, until I remembered that the engine would make the car quite front heavy. So, even though the car didn’t physically look like half of it was over the edge, maybe it was half over in terms of weight?
Watch again. When they show the other side of the car, the marking is dead on. Seems like the car wasn't perfectly straight, either when marking or during the testing
they were supposed to take a longer car, because the idea was that then a small bird could actually tip it. but they were like " were using a bigger car, so were using a bigger bird..." going totally against the original logic
I remember seeing harbour crane "newbies" passing-out by cracking the top of a boiled egg using a 1 ton bock of iron. The egg was out of their sight, and so he was operating purely from hand signals from his banksman. As a crane operator, I will assert that the driver is only as good as the instuction he receives.
i'd like to see perfectly built water/steam cannon. they had so much wasted energy, you can see it coming out from between the barrel and main tank. imagine what a perfectly built steam/water cannon could do. it needs to have quick release pressure valve that automatically releases pressure when it reaches certain point and entire thing has to be like 10 times stronger, so you can build up insane pressure and then the valve would auto-release when pressure is high enough. i think it would easily beat the cannon.
I always felt like they should have tapped the steam off the side of the boiler. Like - have the lid blow one way, the heater the other, and the pressure vent out the barrel radial to the two.
what the hell was that car tipping over? they totally messed that up, idea is that car is balanced on that last "straw", but they balanced it in a way that you could walk on the hood and it wouldn't tip over, that means they balanced it wrong to begin with it. you can even see, they put those tapes in there to mark perfect balance point, but when they put it over the cliff, that mark was in wrong place, it was balanced way too much towards the rear. in order for this to work, you have to balance it perfectly, only give it enough wiggle room so that wind wouldn't send it over.
The limo was set at least 6 inches back from the tape lines!! I really loved this show when i was younger but to really pay attention to the episode's as a adult that has worked in many many feilds of the engineering aspects of many of the myths the have tested! The show had many questionable outcomes
This used to bother me but now I realize it's the magic that made the show work. It's not doing peer reviewed research it's edutainment and their success conditions are excite people about science and engineering, get them thinking about the problems and try not to tell people anything false. A bunch of shows have tried the format of let the guys with the science degrees or technical consultants set everything up so it's perfect and the experiment gives the ideal result. But that's a lame classroom demo with a car or explosives. The magic comes from watching the team design and build in ways that are dramatic (eg car might fall not car might tip and get caught) and do so the way an average viewer might complete with mistakes. This invites the viewer in to argue and engage in a way getting it all perfect never would.
Adam! It's a Water Heater! Not a Hot Water Heater! Why would anyone need to heat water that's already hot? You don't! It doesn't exist. It's called steam.
With the limo I think they should have included a friction coefficient with the ballence. It may tip at a certain point but friction will keep it there for a bit I think
Why would they not catch the limo with the crane so they could retest and find the exact placement it would need for just one bird? This was a huge waste
they balanced the car, mark it with tape where the tipping point is and when its on the cliff they placed the car like 10 inches short of the tipping point, might as well have danced on that hood and it wouldnt have tipped...., you can see the 2 pieces of tape on the right hand side of the car at 42:35
If they had a excavator that was hydraulic control an not electric over hydraulic the control would be smoother bc you can feel the hydraulic fluid movement you can't feel it in electrical over hydraulic as good!!
I’m sorry, but how you gonna sit here and say that fantastic things don’t come out of peoples garages have you heard of Sema? Also, if you tested it in the wind tunnel sideways then you would need to launch it sideways for the results to be accurate.
@@MadHax-wt5tl that's what I mean, they were able to easily obtainy so many expired turkeys. these were put to some use, at least but much more food is just thrown away
25:03 Just happens to be that that "X" in the sky, is a result of weather modification. Something Mythbusters apparently would rather mock than actually test!
26:10 - Grant doing CPR on the dummy is some killer unspoken comedy. RIP, Grant.
That limousine always bugged me. "Oh, we need over 500 pounds for it to start tilting at all!"
Yeah, that means it was NOT on the balance point, just close to it.
its far worse. you literally see they are like 10cm in front of the "knife edge" point, so no way in hell that thing would have moved. the corner needed to be in between those lines.
edit: assuming the size is standard across the pond: 5cm per tape, 3,5 tapes width from the center of the "edge" tape to the actual edge would mean they were 17,5 cm off. 43:46 shows this very clear.
@@AkiSan0 THANK YOU!
I kept seeing that and felt like my blood was boiling.
I agree. The physics is straightforward: once you have a perfectly balanced system a small additional force will unbalance it. If that system is unstable, a minute force can be sufficient to cause substantial deviation.
I suspect the team were attempting to mitigate uncontrolled forces, such as wind and potentially shifting material. Hence they set the car far enough back to keep it stable, unfortunately undermining the test itself in attempt to be cautious.
A repeat would likely need the car to be suspended with safety ropes, much like a climber. The ropes are kept slack unless the car tips, allowing the experiment to be reset after successful attempts and thus enabling a more precarious balance point.
I think they bust the myth, not because it takes more force than expected to tilt the car over, but because what they really demonstrate is that it's basically impossible to get a car balanced that finely. Way too many variables, from wind to metal deforming under pressure to fluids sloshing around to...
At 25 birds it was close to balance point. And only one bird made it fall.....
33:20 that's legitimately one of the coolest shots I've seen on Mythbusters, really creative!
Maybe its the camera angle causing that parallax, but it looked like the car wasn't near it's tipping point at all.
I was thinking the same thing, until I remembered that the engine would make the car quite front heavy. So, even though the car didn’t physically look like half of it was over the edge, maybe it was half over in terms of weight?
they made marks on the side of the car and they weren't even close to them@@ShellingAdventures
It’s possible that buster wasn’t in the car when they made those marks. He would change the center of gravity
Watch again. When they show the other side of the car, the marking is dead on. Seems like the car wasn't perfectly straight, either when marking or during the testing
they were supposed to take a longer car, because the idea was that then a small bird could actually tip it. but they were like " were using a bigger car, so were using a bigger bird..." going totally against the original logic
I love how they've essentially chosen to turn a boiler into a cartridge for a steam-explosion-powered 'gun' the size of a shore artillery piece.
Mythbusters was the king of tv show fanservice.
I remember seeing harbour crane "newbies" passing-out by cracking the top of a boiled egg using a 1 ton bock of iron. The egg was out of their sight, and so he was operating purely from hand signals from his banksman.
As a crane operator, I will assert that the driver is only as good as the instuction he receives.
Funny how Jamie's "wooooaaaaahhhh!" while surfing sounds the same as him going down the giant waterslide.
Who doesn't love Cowboy Grant?
lmao Tory's bird
i'd like to see perfectly built water/steam cannon. they had so much wasted energy, you can see it coming out from between the barrel and main tank. imagine what a perfectly built steam/water cannon could do.
it needs to have quick release pressure valve that automatically releases pressure when it reaches certain point and entire thing has to be like 10 times stronger, so you can build up insane pressure and then the valve would auto-release when pressure is high enough.
i think it would easily beat the cannon.
Hey, Adam referenced this episode in the Tested clip released today (threading a needle with an excavator)
I always felt like they should have tapped the steam off the side of the boiler. Like - have the lid blow one way, the heater the other, and the pressure vent out the barrel radial to the two.
9:57 they using windows XP on a laptop. States how old this is hahah
4:21 its not a "mini bulldozer", it is a skid steer...
love mythbusters!
😂😂 Window XP. Insane to think this is that old.
18:06 those "bricks" look very similar to cinder blocks....🙄
that's not the t/p valve at the bottom, that's just a drain valve.
That bugged me about as much as him calling it a "HOT" WATER HEATER. hot water doesn't need to be heated
that limo squashed like cardboard when it went over and landed🤯
I bet the local scavengers had a feast that day, though. :)
The boiler cannon looks eerily similar to the dynamite cannon that was used as a bombardment device at sea.
what the hell was that car tipping over? they totally messed that up, idea is that car is balanced on that last "straw", but they balanced it in a way that you could walk on the hood and it wouldn't tip over, that means they balanced it wrong to begin with it.
you can even see, they put those tapes in there to mark perfect balance point, but when they put it over the cliff, that mark was in wrong place, it was balanced way too much towards the rear.
in order for this to work, you have to balance it perfectly, only give it enough wiggle room so that wind wouldn't send it over.
All they busted with the bird limousine myth was their competence at balancing the car.
Agreed.
The limo was set at least 6 inches back from the tape lines!! I really loved this show when i was younger but to really pay attention to the episode's as a adult that has worked in many many feilds of the engineering aspects of many of the myths the have tested! The show had many questionable outcomes
This used to bother me but now I realize it's the magic that made the show work. It's not doing peer reviewed research it's edutainment and their success conditions are excite people about science and engineering, get them thinking about the problems and try not to tell people anything false.
A bunch of shows have tried the format of let the guys with the science degrees or technical consultants set everything up so it's perfect and the experiment gives the ideal result. But that's a lame classroom demo with a car or explosives.
The magic comes from watching the team design and build in ways that are dramatic (eg car might fall not car might tip and get caught) and do so the way an average viewer might complete with mistakes.
This invites the viewer in to argue and engage in a way getting it all perfect never would.
Then do it yourself and quit bitching, genius
35:16 guy almost got his leg snapped...
Love the episode but both times they did the car tip myth it's quite clearly not on its pivot point
Yeah that’s not an over pressure relief valve
More survival episode please!!!
9:44 sadam spotted
The car was perfectly balanced at n-1 birds. Then 1 bird tipped it over. They are wrong.
Adam!
It's a Water Heater! Not a Hot Water Heater! Why would anyone need to heat water that's already hot? You don't! It doesn't exist. It's called steam.
that looks like a target truck
in Australia there is a chain store called target and it has the same colors
With the limo I think they should have included a friction coefficient with the ballence. It may tip at a certain point but friction will keep it there for a bit I think
the limousine needs to be with reinforcements ,, not some soft metal like aliminium that any edge can dig into
That bird's name sounds like "Quarry Buster"
Wheeeee!!! 44:16
Why would they not catch the limo with the crane so they could retest and find the exact placement it would need for just one bird? This was a huge waste
🤘
25:40 talk about the nanny state
The Limo was so not balanced!
43:13 what a waste of turkey. Out of date or not, homeless people would have appreciated them.
I feel like the steam cannon at the end was aiming too far down to really make it far.
Leave the turkey for wildlife to feed on
they balanced the car, mark it with tape where the tipping point is and when its on the cliff they placed the car like 10 inches short of the tipping point, might as well have danced on that hood and it wouldnt have tipped...., you can see the 2 pieces of tape on the right hand side of the car at 42:35
If they had a excavator that was hydraulic control an not electric over hydraulic the control would be smoother bc you can feel the hydraulic fluid movement you can't feel it in electrical over hydraulic as good!!
I'm not a vegetarian, but that's some body horror.. ekh
And not once did they refer to it as a "Tory" bustard. Missed opportunity.
Another side of limousine was over foot away balance Mark myth unsolved still
Windows XP !!!!!!! 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
6:38 What was it we where testing again? Dont know Dont care "danceeeee" MythCrackers
I love how upset some people get about a TV show. They must live incredibly privileged lives if that is what really ruins their day.
for rea.
Should be able to move the car with a light touch if balanced right. B team showing why they were the B team again.
Need the digger videos ever get uploaded?
Tia Parkways
Turkey chandellier
Rocket: onsyead of steel and plywood, why noy only bamboo?!; lighter, bendable ,reuaeable, cheap ans easier..i am 😅smart
Revenge of the budak AI tu, sapa nama
I’m sorry, but how you gonna sit here and say that fantastic things don’t come out of peoples garages have you heard of Sema? Also, if you tested it in the wind tunnel sideways then you would need to launch it sideways for the results to be accurate.
ruined a perfectly good van, shame on you
I think they are World Eaters if they never got the Butchers Nails and stayed Loyal
the amount of food being wasted is shocking
They did mention the turkeys were expired.
@@MadHax-wt5tl that's what I mean, they were able to easily obtainy so many expired turkeys. these were put to some use, at least but much more food is just thrown away
@@marianpyter5948 True, and a lot of the time the food is just fine, it's just past the arbitrary used by date.
Fake sounds are disgusting.
I like cheese.
Mieow
25:03 Just happens to be that that "X" in the sky, is a result of weather modification. Something Mythbusters apparently would rather mock than actually test!
What about her comment was "mocking," exactly?
someone (maybe me) needs to make ai mythbusters, the possibilities are endless!
What a beyond stupid idea
What a terrible idea, do not!
Yuck, no