What's not to like? Sensual design, first class materials, sensibly rapid, with legendary reliability and first class dealer service. Plus, less conspicuous than an S Class. Yes, please.
Anybody poor enough to actually care about the value and badge prestige of a Lexus was just going to buy a Toyota Avalon anyway. Mercedes are for football players and rappers. The ultrarich buy what they want, regardless of the cost or brand, because the value of money is something they've never had to think about. Maybe they want a Lexus LS, maybe they want an S-Class, or maybe they're in the mood for a Dodge Neon, but they're not trying to impress anyone. Their last name is impressive enough. They buy whatever strikes their fancy, and throw it out like a less wealthy person would throw out last season's fashions, when they're in the mood for something else. If Lexus continues to have softer seats than Mercedes, it could have a Chevy badge and people who want the ultimate in ultraluxury soft seats would still pay $100k for one.
in my opinion, there is a lot not to like. I"m not a fan of the design at all. I"m sure it's built well, I"m sure it drives smooth... but to look at it is just a bit cheesy and gimmicky.
Styling is one factor that is obviously subjective. Two things that remain consistent through out other channels reviewing this LS is the high level of attention given to its details and the superb "fit and finish".
What an amazing and stunning vehicle. The interior of this car is the best in class for flagships in the region of 100k or slightly more. What an incredible job Lexus has done
The most detailed car review ever I've seen on UA-cam. Reminds me maths class when I understood nothing of what the teacher said. This guy knows his stuff.
i don't care what the german fan boys say, but i love this car! and there is a reason why lexus and toyota can cover the engine bay with plastic covers, and it is because the cars are so reliable that people have no need to open the engine bay up at all compared to the german cars. yes maybe the german cars have the badge name and the mercedes is quite nice to be in, but i love this japaneseness of the interior of this car and for me, its better than the german cars.
Sombody You Dont Know Meh. Other Lexuses don't have a plastic shroud covering the entire engine bay, a lot of the stuff is cleanly organized but still exposed. I'm in favor of showing all that stuff.
I own a 98 LS400 and still think that is the best looking LS. I am obsessed with the LS, S-Class, and 7-Series. I think they did a good job dumping the boring conservative design. I don't think this out-techs the new S560 though. Mercedes will not allow another company to dethrone the S-Class and has made it very hard to compete. This new LS however is definitely a step in the right direction. I'm glad it will have an active suspension to reduce body roll. No idea why the previous LS didn't have it. What I will say is the 2013 LS460 has one of the nicest interior dash I've ever seen. Significant improvement over the ugly 07-2012 interior dashboard.
What I don't like about the current LS model is that it has skinny tires even on the F model, so I hope they've given this car nice fat tires. The other thing is the steering wheel on the LS500 looks huge!! They really need to trim the lower part of it. I'm really glad they put a TTV6, I like the numbers on it, and I hope this engine will end up in the other Lexus models, IS/GS. I don't think the F model needs the 4 wheel steering, that's just added weight and that feature shouldn't be in such cars at all.
Happy to report there is a FIRST DRIVE REVIEW of the car featured in this episode coming up on September 26. That will be followed by another ROUND DA BLOCK REVIEW of the LS500h you see glimpses of in this episode. Then I was able to get some time with the engineers and the Chief Designer. You will see episodes on those at some point after the drive episodes.
They shouldn't call it a "500" if it isn't displacing 5.0 liters. All this time the number represented the displacement by one tenth. I.e. ls400 was a 4.0, ls430 was a 4.3, etc.
Why should it be a "LS350h" ? The same reason that Mercedes engines do not match the model designation like they used to. Is the new S560 a 5.6 liter? NOPE! It's a 4.0 liter. Lexus doesn't want potential customers to think that they are somehow getting "less".
All lexus engine names match their engine displacement. MB uses the number designation to describe the engine size. all 500 series models are v8s, 400 models are v6's and 300 models are turbo 4's. AMG 43's aer twin turbo 6's and AMG 63's are twin turbo 8's and 65's are twin turbo 12's. Its supposed to match since they are the ones who said it should. a lexus 350 always has a 3.5L V6, and the 500's are "supposed" to be 5L V8's. The LX 570 is a 5.7L V8, and the GS 350 is a 3.5L V6...all to say. it to say it does matter
Malik L Griffin . Apparently you haven't watched or heard the news on new Lexus 2018 model. LS500 and LS500h are 3.5L V6 twin turbo. How long this crap will last? First 6-7 years in US and Europe ... after that, they are all going to 3rd world countries (South America and Africa) as inherited from rich men junks!!!
Malik L Griffin u seem to miss point he's not talking about engine size but displacement, back in the day Mercedes-Benz cars had the same displacement as the numbers they carried. My father owned an s 500 back from previous generations and it was a 5.0 litre engine. The same Lexus has done here with the Ls 500 simple. There's nothing to make a fuss about
Yes, I agree a 100% with you on that. That is exactly why I would strongly consider buying one, even though I would have to *"hold my nose"* and do it!
I've had the 450h for 8 years, never had a single problem, the only thing I wasn't so keen on were the looks (though the interior is amazing) this one though look amazing inside and out. Not overly keen on the sound of the cvt when booting it, but the power delivery of the h models is addictive too
Lexus is without a doubt the most reliable car manufacturer. I assume it's because of their excellent quality control and engineering and also because their cars are always overbuilt. If you check their previous engines on LS, LX, toyota land cruisers etc... it's always under powered for the size of the engine. another reliable car is the crown victoria 4.6 V8 @ 210 HP my theory is.. less relative power = less strain on the engine and other moving parts = a more reliable car. with the new LS they are pushing it a bit, and the two turbos mean two extra probable causes of failure. my guess that it will not be as reliable as previous LS models, you won't see 6 Years 1,000,000 KM warranty on it (got it for free from the dealership on 2015 LS 460) *reliable enough* same as german cars but don't expect it to last for your grandchild without major repair expenses. I could be wrong though
The best-looking Flagship luxury sedan. Always admire carmakers that take risks and make bold & intriguing designs. Kudos to Lexus for being bold and unique and finally stop trying to be "German" esp. with the new LS. The grille is polarizing yes but can't deny it effectively gave Lexus much needed identity.
personally, I'm thrilled to see Lexus finally embrace their Japanese heritage, rather than, as you said, trying to out-German the Germans. This is the first LS I've cared about since the Original LS set such a high bar. Also, great meeting you and shooting with you!
Just discovered your videos. Truly very thorough and well produced. Please keep up the great work. I traded in my Audi A8L on a 2018 LS500H and am very glad to have made the change after comparing it to the rest of its competitors (most of which I’ve owned). The execution of this car is second to none, mechanically and esthetically. Here are just a few reasons why. Although I loved my A8L it was in the shop far too often for great lengths of time for lots of mechanical issues. This increases the cost of ownership greatly even if the repairs are covered under warranty due to the inordinate amount of time it takes shuttling the car back and forth to the dealer. However, I received great service from my Audi dealer, but again all too often. There’s no doubt the S class is a great car but is fraught with the highest depreciation of possibly all cars and has its service issues as well. The depreciation is concerning to me because it makes it difficult/ uber costly to switch cars within a few years which is my normal trade cycle due to the amount of miles that I drive. I didn’t buy the LC500 twin turbo primarily because it’s a twin turbo. Turbos spin around 300,000 rpm and have regulators, waste gates etc. and fail at some point usually well in advance of the engine. I’ve owned other turbocharged cars and everyone of them had problems. Maybe Toyota has it figured out but I didn’t want to take that chance on this new first year engine. Now it’s obvious that the 500H is a complicated machine but I’ve owned other Lexus hybrid vehicles without fault and I chose two electric motors over two turbochargers as a result. That’s just a few of the reasons I bought the LS500H and time will tell if my decision was correct but if my previous Lexus ownership experience is any indication it should work out just fine.
I think it has a really incredible design, the predator style design cues from the grill with the mess of triangles being repeated in the the interior door panels in that glass and leather is really stunning, I think that's such a great move to start owning the new design language of Lexus. The leather that surrounds the gauge cluster is really classy too, it's a smart way of keeping the old with the new.
Great review! Good to see MotoMan grasping the concept of this design. It doesn't copy the Germans however embodies the idea of giving your best efforts. I would describe the interior as Mercedes level of detail with Japanese craftsmanship which is what I love about this car. Take note Genesis!
Photos and videos of this new Lexus look good to my eyes. The new LS500 appears to have a lowered beltline with better balance between the car body and the greenhouse. From some angles it reminds me of the Porsche Panamera highlighted by lots of little busy Lexus styling touches that I guess some people like. Car styling is best featured on the street surrounded by other cars. That's the best way to appreciate overall design.
What I like is that I believe that this car drives and rides more comfortably and effortlessly than the previous generation car . What I don’t like is that I guess they’ve scraped out a few luxury options like the cooler box and folding tray tables in the executive rear seats and also would have loved to see a better UI for the infotainment system along with Apple Carplay and android auto .
I admit when Lexus changed the spindle grille I was meh. Seemed like they were just riveted on without much thought. But here it makes sense. The entire exterior looks 'whole'. The interior is intriguing too. When the local dealer gets them in I'll go take a look-see.
well its not cheap but the upside is that its got good resale value when compared to other luxury cars... and parts is cheaper and its more reliable....
@motomanTV From what I understand, they call it the equivalent engine size. Like they named the LS 600HL because it had a comparable output to a 6.0 L Engine at the time. Like the LS 500 is powered by a 3.5 but makes similar power to 5L of displacement of this current era.
I must say - it looks good despite of the "predator" front. It clearly copies the Panamera lines on the outside. Inside looks great. The idea of cutting down two cyl and adding two turbos is great, this should have been adopted by Honda like 5 years ago already (ah, well).
I love the headlights. They are completely unique. I also love the interior outside of the 2 knobs on either side of the IP. Reminds me of Shrek, or something from the 80's.
the car is nice, the details about it are interesting, one thing though. you could put the specs on the screen each time you talk about them, it just makes it easier to follow.
I actually like the lines a lot. Very sleek, immaculate detail and a nice amount of horsepower and torque for a 6 cylinder. 10-speed transmission is amazing and for a two-ton-plus car, a 5.2 0-60 is good. I do know that a lot of previous F-Sport Lexus models have been ultra-stiff - so much so that salesmen were providing warnings when I went to take a look. I am curious if that is still the case or if the changes from comfort, sport, and sport+ handle it better than in the past?
Beautiful Lexus! So many people initially lambasted Lexus for its controversial spindle grill design. Now that everyone's seeing the car in person, they're warming up to it!
I love the front end ... the rear end is quite beautiful as well ... I don't like there rear quarter panels / window section ... I am simply in love with the interior ... that glass detail and origami suede treatment is gorgeous and so Japanese ... I am glad they are highlighting their Japanese roots here for sure
I like those little interior details you highlighted (such as the new Bentley Continental GT and 'Citroën' DS 7 Crossback) but mostly the front 3/4.That design looks dang good. Those who buy a Mercedes to customize it... Look no further than this Lexus LS.
The only thing I wish is that we saw some of the tech in what the car offers to the driver. I understand you have a drive video coming up for it so hopefully you'll cover the infotainment as well
This is a vehicle worthy of the flagship title for any manufacturer. Love the front end design... those Z headlamps are gorgeous, and of course the stunning spindle grill keeps getting better and better. I guess my least favorite design feature is the C pillar but the entire industry is moving towards that look these days. I prefer the coupe look, sort of like BMW, but that's just me.
I love that Lexus is doing their own thing and I think this a great evolution of the LS, BUT I really wish they kept with the heritage of the V8. The LC has a amazing 5.0, why could we not have that here?
At some angles the car does look a little weird, but i have seen it in person and the car looks amazing. It has understated presence. This is a for real, competitor to the likes, S class or 7 series.
Will a detuned version of the turbo engine make its way to the Lexus IS350? Infiniti ditched its 3.7L for a 3.0L twin turbo V6 and power output has finally started to compare to the Germans.
I found the V8 lag of my LS cars unacceptable. Can't get out of a tight intersection quickly enough from 0 mph. Looking forward to the LS500 which has much lower lag.
Two things I don't like. 1. Lack of headroom for taller people. A flagship should be long but also give some space up top. Needs another inch or two. Form shouldn't impede on function. 2. The long and low front end looks like it's going to scrape on more than a few curbs.
Love the flush fitted side glass. Interior design is certainly a break-through among previous generation LS. The grille is abit too loud though. Overall it is a much likeable car to me compare to past LS. Pity that it doesn't have a long wheelbase version because from some other videos capturing the rear space, it doesn't look particularly spacious despite having a wheelbase matching competitors long wheelbase version.
I LOVE THE DESIGN, IT TRULY FLOWS...THE INTERIOR WILL TAKE SOME GETTING USE TOO, AS I'M A BMW 5 SERIES GUY. I LIKE THE WHEELS, I LOVE THE CHROME ACCENTS AND GRILL DESIGN, WHICH I WASN'T A BIG FAN OF WITH OTHER MODELS. I CERTAINLY HOPE THEY HAVE BETTER COLOR SELECTION AND INTERIOR COLOR COMBINATIONS. I WOULD DEFINITELY LEASE THIS CAR, NO DOUBT, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO TEST DRIVE IT FIRST. RGEE
The last Lexus LS came out in 2006, so it only took them 11 years to get around to updating their flagship sedan. I feel like LS buyers are now used to driving other cars like the S-Class or 7 Series. I'm sure that the new LS will be safe, reliable, comfortable, and have an amazing technology package. However, I really do not like the styling of the LS inside or out. I really don't like the spindle grille, and feel like the headlight design is busy. On the inside I think the door handles look like a horn, and everything feels aggressive and not relaxing.
I have come to the conclusion that they secretly charge you for their cars reliability on the price tag. Because they are not the faster cars nor the ones with the latest tech. Anyway, the only option is to save....a lot.
Interesting how Lexus seems to be making sure that the LS does not compete directly with the S-Class. Do they have a hole card coming for that battle, or have they given up, and this is their fold? This will stay in the mid-$70's base price range
i like the competence of the chassis, still to see how superior it would be against s class and 7 series, jaguar xj etc.. wheels and body looks very attractive, the ls is kinda special. i don't like how it looks too modern in the front. maybe in the back too.. never saw it in person, won't even know how it feels in the interior, tht looks very modern too.
Will Buy It . Well. Look at other reviews. There is a test of this against the Aston on here. Watch it. Don't forget that it's almost half the price too.
I'm not impressed with the exterior design. I know it's subjective, but to me it looks too much like the Infiniti from side profile. But obviously it's a great car. I am the proud owner of the LS430 which you can see in my channel. I love it, it only has a little north of 100k miles and I hope to drive it north of 300k. I still get compliments on it, as a matter of fact I had it at the car wash just a couple days ago and someone jokingly asked if I wanted to trade cars. He said "man that is beautiful"
The interior is just beautiful The exterior looks nice but a little weird muby with time it will grow on me But the real star here is the interior its just staning in every regard
do not like the knobs on the top sides of the drivers instrument panel. Looks like horns or something, seems out of place. Any reason why the designers put them there?
The Interior is cool design wise. I like the glass texture thingy & the quilted cloth, but I don't know, I feel like its missing something, I can't put my finger on it though. I don't like the exterior, it looks like a mashup between the Infiniti Q70 & the Hyundai Azera with some Lexus touches sprinkled on it.
Yeah I can't say it looks good at all, but I'm glad they updated the very dated interior, especially for the rear seat controls, so they're moving in the right direction.
Great interior, cannot see that new glossy touch-button tendency with many screens here, which is good. The exterior- i dont know why it must look so sporty agressive. I think all those sharp edges- front air intake, engine hood, rim design make it loose its presence factor when standing nearby different, smaller, also sporty looking cars. Earlier i thought Lexus is about comfort and quietness, but test drove the new RX450h this week- wind noise is quite high ( they dont even have a double glazing option), looks very sporty and in the same time those 0-60mph times dont impress. Dont know, maybe theyre strictly following customer survey reports, but imo the whole picture doesnt come together.
Lexus DOES NOT make refined and quiet vehicles anymore. That is a MYTH. It was absolutely true in the past (and my 2000 LS 400 is evidence of that). But most models in the last 8 to 10 years or so have become noiser and noiser. Today they have very mediocre refinement and noise isolation (especially ENGINE AND EXHAUST noise). The RX is the worst of them all. I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot barge pole. Oddly, the Acura MDX is a 1000 times more refined and quiet (especially the MDX-hybrid). Sadly Honda nowadays has poor build-quality and reliability. So, if you want an ultra-reliable vehicle vehicle with bulletproof quality, then your only choice is a Toyota or Lexus. And for many of us this is possibly the most important purchase consideration. So you just have to "hold your nose" and live with it.
vicarouza i own the latest rx and it is an extremely quiet car. The engine is extremely refined. The disappointment is the build quality is actually very bad. I bought it trusting all the hype about lexus quality but the panels feel very loose indeed. Definitely not on par woth audi or mercedes
I don't know if there is enough differentiation in terms of power train or performance from the competition. I think Lexus loyalists and anyone who wants a reliable car will stick with Lexus. For everyone else, the three year lease crowd, the German alternatives are probably far better choices.
That's the opinion on all Toyotas but the reality is that Android and Apple may be gone or change completely long before this car expires. That's why Toyota is not buying into it. They still have cd players cause former owners may still use cd's as well. But you will always be able to stream via bluetooth.
I like the interior design changes. However, I think the exterior is a bit boring But I think that luxury flagships in general, whether 7-series, G90, A8, S-class, etc., are largely boring in design. I am VERY curious as to how you take to the redesigned infotainment. I have a 2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.0T Limited as well as a 2017 Lexus RC 350 FSport (previous gen Remote Touch Interface). Despite being a D-segment car and two years older, the Sonata's infotainment is light years better than the RC's. I've also been lucky to have experienced practically every major manufacturer's infotainment and it's my opinion that Lexus's Remote Touch Interface is the absolute worst in the business, all things considered. The new GUI in the LS has me hoping that the system is easier to use, but seeing the touchpad still in the cabin diminishes that faith.
i dont like that its lowered compared to the previous modell... they should raise the LS line. this should be not about sportperformance looks.... this should be about comfort + luxury.
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Lexus have released another winner. Beautiful interior, great mpg figures, epic reliability.
Beautiful in every aspect, from the super clean engine bay, those wheels, and that little knob next to the steering wheel.
What's not to like? Sensual design, first class materials, sensibly rapid, with legendary reliability and first class dealer service. Plus, less conspicuous than an S Class. Yes, please.
The front air intakes looks too similar to the new Camry's. This is a 100,000 car and if I were to buy it, just for that reason I wouldn't
Anybody poor enough to actually care about the value and badge prestige of a Lexus was just going to buy a Toyota Avalon anyway. Mercedes are for football players and rappers. The ultrarich buy what they want, regardless of the cost or brand, because the value of money is something they've never had to think about. Maybe they want a Lexus LS, maybe they want an S-Class, or maybe they're in the mood for a Dodge Neon, but they're not trying to impress anyone. Their last name is impressive enough. They buy whatever strikes their fancy, and throw it out like a less wealthy person would throw out last season's fashions, when they're in the mood for something else. If Lexus continues to have softer seats than Mercedes, it could have a Chevy badge and people who want the ultimate in ultraluxury soft seats would still pay $100k for one.
in my opinion, there is a lot not to like. I"m not a fan of the design at all. I"m sure it's built well, I"m sure it drives smooth... but to look at it is just a bit cheesy and gimmicky.
Dont tell me you like the stupid Lexus infotainment controller
J J Funny. I have 18 Rx350 and I hate it more than I hate my 16 E400 command. You must be a simpleton.
Styling is one factor that is obviously subjective. Two things that remain consistent through out other channels reviewing this LS is the high level of attention given to its details and the superb "fit and finish".
What an amazing and stunning vehicle. The interior of this car is the best in class for flagships in the region of 100k or slightly more. What an incredible job Lexus has done
The most detailed car review ever I've seen on UA-cam. Reminds me maths class when I understood nothing of what the teacher said. This guy knows his stuff.
i don't care what the german fan boys say, but i love this car! and there is a reason why lexus and toyota can cover the engine bay with plastic covers, and it is because the cars are so reliable that people have no need to open the engine bay up at all compared to the german cars. yes maybe the german cars have the badge name and the mercedes is quite nice to be in, but i love this japaneseness of the interior of this car and for me, its better than the german cars.
Sombody You Dont Know Meh. Other Lexuses don't have a plastic shroud covering the entire engine bay, a lot of the stuff is cleanly organized but still exposed. I'm in favor of showing all that stuff.
I own a 98 LS400 and still think that is the best looking LS. I am obsessed with the LS, S-Class, and 7-Series. I think they did a good job dumping the boring conservative design. I don't think this out-techs the new S560 though. Mercedes will not allow another company to dethrone the S-Class and has made it very hard to compete. This new LS however is definitely a step in the right direction. I'm glad it will have an active suspension to reduce body roll. No idea why the previous LS didn't have it. What I will say is the 2013 LS460 has one of the nicest interior dash I've ever seen. Significant improvement over the ugly 07-2012 interior dashboard.
This man deserve 1 million subscribers!!!!!!!! The detail of this Car review it's just AMAZING. Salute!
This car is BEAUTIFUL! Interior and exterior.
What I don't like about the current LS model is that it has skinny tires even on the F model, so I hope they've given this car nice fat tires. The other thing is the steering wheel on the LS500 looks huge!! They really need to trim the lower part of it. I'm really glad they put a TTV6, I like the numbers on it, and I hope this engine will end up in the other Lexus models, IS/GS. I don't think the F model needs the 4 wheel steering, that's just added weight and that feature shouldn't be in such cars at all.
Quality review as always, U deserve more view than that !!!!
Thank you for the kind words and for watching!
MotoMan you give the most informative car reviews on UA-cam. Simply outstanding!!!
Alright, I'm sold on this beauty! The LC500 will be my weekend car, and the LS500 will be for family trips.
Lmao, do you have a money tree in your backyard?!
The wildly futuristic and progressive design is growing on me!
Video too short MotoMan. You had me wanting more.
It's 1 of 3 parts. There's plenty more :-)
Happy to report there is a FIRST DRIVE REVIEW of the car featured in this episode coming up on September 26. That will be followed by another ROUND DA BLOCK REVIEW of the LS500h you see glimpses of in this episode. Then I was able to get some time with the engineers and the Chief Designer. You will see episodes on those at some point after the drive episodes.
That interior is amazing. And do you know the chrome piece near the end side panel is supposed to look like a Japanese katana
They shouldn't call it a "500" if it isn't displacing 5.0 liters. All this time the number represented the displacement by one tenth. I.e. ls400 was a 4.0, ls430 was a 4.3, etc.
This guys at Toyota/Lexus build their cars with passion, period
this car is absolutely stunning!!!!!
Why should it be a "LS350h" ? The same reason that Mercedes engines do not match the model designation like they used to. Is the new S560 a 5.6 liter? NOPE! It's a 4.0 liter. Lexus doesn't want potential customers to think that they are somehow getting "less".
All lexus engine names match their engine displacement. MB uses the number designation to describe the engine size. all 500 series models are v8s, 400 models are v6's and 300 models are turbo 4's. AMG 43's aer twin turbo 6's and AMG 63's are twin turbo 8's and 65's are twin turbo 12's. Its supposed to match since they are the ones who said it should. a lexus 350 always has a 3.5L V6, and the 500's are "supposed" to be 5L V8's. The LX 570 is a 5.7L V8, and the GS 350 is a 3.5L V6...all to say. it to say it does matter
Malik L Griffin . Apparently you haven't watched or heard the news on new Lexus 2018 model. LS500 and LS500h are 3.5L V6 twin turbo. How long this crap will last? First 6-7 years in US and Europe ... after that, they are all going to 3rd world countries (South America and Africa) as inherited from rich men junks!!!
Malik L Griffin u seem to miss point he's not talking about engine size but displacement, back in the day Mercedes-Benz cars had the same displacement as the numbers they carried. My father owned an s 500 back from previous generations and it was a 5.0 litre engine. The same Lexus has done here with the Ls 500 simple. There's nothing to make a fuss about
Mercedes now has S680. Very soon it'll be S1000 with four cylinders.
Brian D. In that case modern 2 liter turbo can be named as a 1970s V8-s 👍😀
I think the car is georgeous!
I like everything on this car.
well ,
i like the reliability and
i like the reliability and
for the third time i like the reliability
save ur time by buying lexus
Yes, I agree a 100% with you on that. That is exactly why I would strongly consider buying one, even though I would have to *"hold my nose"* and do it!
I've had the 450h for 8 years, never had a single problem, the only thing I wasn't so keen on were the looks (though the interior is amazing) this one though look amazing inside and out. Not overly keen on the sound of the cvt when booting it, but the power delivery of the h models is addictive too
Lexus is without a doubt the most reliable car manufacturer. I assume it's because of their excellent quality control and engineering
and also because their cars are always overbuilt. If you check their previous engines on LS, LX, toyota land cruisers etc... it's always under powered for the size of the engine.
another reliable car is the crown victoria 4.6 V8 @ 210 HP
my theory is.. less relative power = less strain on the engine and other moving parts = a more reliable car.
with the new LS they are pushing it a bit, and the two turbos mean two extra probable causes of failure.
my guess that it will not be as reliable as previous LS models, you won't see 6 Years 1,000,000 KM warranty on it (got it for free from the dealership on 2015 LS 460)
*reliable enough* same as german cars but don't expect it to last for your grandchild without major repair expenses.
I could be wrong though
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That's a beauty.
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The best-looking Flagship luxury sedan. Always admire carmakers that take risks and make bold & intriguing designs. Kudos to Lexus for being bold and unique and finally stop trying to be "German" esp. with the new LS. The grille is polarizing yes but can't deny it effectively gave Lexus much needed identity.
Love the color actually...no car gets my consideration until the Moto Man has reviewed it...period!
personally, I'm thrilled to see Lexus finally embrace their Japanese heritage, rather than, as you said, trying to out-German the Germans. This is the first LS I've cared about since the Original LS set such a high bar.
Also, great meeting you and shooting with you!
Just discovered your videos. Truly very thorough and well produced. Please keep up the great work. I traded in my Audi A8L on a 2018 LS500H and am very glad to have made the change after comparing it to the rest of its competitors (most of which I’ve owned). The execution of this car is second to none, mechanically and esthetically. Here are just a few reasons why. Although I loved my A8L it was in the shop far too often for great lengths of time for lots of mechanical issues. This increases the cost of ownership greatly even if the repairs are covered under warranty due to the inordinate amount of time it takes shuttling the car back and forth to the dealer. However, I received great service from my Audi dealer, but again all too often. There’s no doubt the S class is a great car but is fraught with the highest depreciation of possibly all cars and has its service issues as well. The depreciation is concerning to me because it makes it difficult/ uber costly to switch cars within a few years which is my normal trade cycle due to the amount of miles that I drive. I didn’t buy the LC500 twin turbo primarily because it’s a twin turbo. Turbos spin around 300,000 rpm and have regulators, waste gates etc. and fail at some point usually well in advance of the engine. I’ve owned other turbocharged cars and everyone of them had problems. Maybe Toyota has it figured out but I didn’t want to take that chance on this new first year engine. Now it’s obvious that the 500H is a complicated machine but I’ve owned other Lexus hybrid vehicles without fault and I chose two electric motors over two turbochargers as a result. That’s just a few of the reasons I bought the LS500H and time will tell if my decision was correct but if my previous Lexus ownership experience is any indication it should work out just fine.
I think it's gorgeous, the front end and grill with the lights. Best looking Lexus to date
I think it has a really incredible design, the predator style design cues from the grill with the mess of triangles being repeated in the the interior door panels in that glass and leather is really stunning, I think that's such a great move to start owning the new design language of Lexus. The leather that surrounds the gauge cluster is really classy too, it's a smart way of keeping the old with the new.
Finally! Lexus goes it's own way! I rather like what I see here inside this car! Hopefully, Lexus stays true to it's own designs for the LS.
Great review! Good to see MotoMan grasping the concept of this design. It doesn't copy the Germans however embodies the idea of giving your best efforts. I would describe the interior as Mercedes level of detail with Japanese craftsmanship which is what I love about this car. Take note Genesis!
It's the first Lexus that I've seen that I would buy . . . AMAZING vehicle! Expect to purchase before May.
Photos and videos of this new Lexus look good to my eyes. The new LS500 appears to have a lowered beltline with better balance between the car body and the greenhouse. From some angles it reminds me of the Porsche Panamera highlighted by lots of little busy Lexus styling touches that I guess some people like. Car styling is best featured on the street surrounded by other cars. That's the best way to appreciate overall design.
What I like is that I believe that this car drives and rides more comfortably and effortlessly than the previous generation car . What I don’t like is that I guess they’ve scraped out a few luxury options like the cooler box and folding tray tables in the executive rear seats and also would have loved to see a better UI for the infotainment system along with Apple Carplay and android auto .
I admit when Lexus changed the spindle grille I was meh. Seemed like they were just riveted on without much thought. But here it makes sense. The entire exterior looks 'whole'. The interior is intriguing too. When the local dealer gets them in I'll go take a look-see.
the second home run for Lexus. the second " affordable " Lexus i would actually consider owning... it is a lovely thing.
Shannon Stjulien close to 100k and more affordable???
as compaired to the LFA @ 400K .
well its not cheap but the upside is that its got good resale value when compared to other luxury cars... and parts is cheaper and its more reliable....
spyder61man Yes definitely affordable, but I'm guessing you and I know very different people.
imdevonur if you are in this market and affordable is the question, I believe it is more about do you pull the trigger or not!!
Amazing, original design! Simply beautiful.
@motomanTV From what I understand, they call it the equivalent engine size. Like they named the LS 600HL because it had a comparable output to a 6.0 L Engine at the time. Like the LS 500 is powered by a 3.5 but makes similar power to 5L of displacement of this current era.
Interior & exterior love it !!! I don't care for the F sport tho
I like the design, love the interior, just wish they had added a V8
I must say - it looks good despite of the "predator" front. It clearly copies the Panamera lines on the outside. Inside looks great. The idea of cutting down two cyl and adding two turbos is great, this should have been adopted by Honda like 5 years ago already (ah, well).
I love the headlights. They are completely unique. I also love the interior outside of the 2 knobs on either side of the IP. Reminds me of Shrek, or something from the 80's.
the car is nice, the details about it are interesting, one thing though. you could put the specs on the screen each time you talk about them, it just makes it easier to follow.
Very nice interior.. looks prettty big inside ... also like the long exterior look
It looks very cool and very original, great design job 👍🏼
I actually like the lines a lot. Very sleek, immaculate detail and a nice amount of horsepower and torque for a 6 cylinder. 10-speed transmission is amazing and for a two-ton-plus car, a 5.2 0-60 is good. I do know that a lot of previous F-Sport Lexus models have been ultra-stiff - so much so that salesmen were providing warnings when I went to take a look. I am curious if that is still the case or if the changes from comfort, sport, and sport+ handle it better than in the past?
Beautiful Lexus! So many people initially lambasted Lexus for its controversial spindle grill design. Now that everyone's seeing the car in person, they're warming up to it!
I love the front end ... the rear end is quite beautiful as well ... I don't like there rear quarter panels / window section ... I am simply in love with the interior ... that glass detail and origami suede treatment is gorgeous and so Japanese ... I am glad they are highlighting their Japanese roots here for sure
I like those little interior details you highlighted (such as the new Bentley Continental GT and 'Citroën' DS 7 Crossback) but mostly the front 3/4.That design looks dang good. Those who buy a Mercedes to customize it... Look no further than this Lexus LS.
previous generation long wheelbase version was available in both the standard V8 engine and the hybrid, not just the hybrid.
The only thing I wish is that we saw some of the tech in what the car offers to the driver. I understand you have a drive video coming up for it so hopefully you'll cover the infotainment as well
This is a vehicle worthy of the flagship title for any manufacturer. Love the front end design... those Z headlamps are gorgeous, and of course the stunning spindle grill keeps getting better and better. I guess my least favorite design feature is the C pillar but the entire industry is moving towards that look these days. I prefer the coupe look, sort of like BMW, but that's just me.
When is part 2 and 3 coming? Looking forward to more of this LS500 review.
Part 2 premieres when the global embargo lifts on September 26 @ 14:00 GMT/9:00 EST/6:00 PST
MotoManTV Thank you very much.
My mom had a 1990 LS400. What amazes me is that I can see that car in this one. I can't quite make it out why I do.
Wonderful design; the only thing not to like is the 350tt thing instead of 500 like in the lc500.
I love that Lexus is doing their own thing and I think this a great evolution of the LS, BUT I really wish they kept with the heritage of the V8. The LC has a amazing 5.0, why could we not have that here?
Vavavavooom, just blows all competition away....
It's like 1989 all over again, fantastic!
At some angles the car does look a little weird, but i have seen it in person and the car looks amazing. It has understated presence. This is a for real, competitor to the likes, S class or 7 series.
Is the Pano Roof an option on these? I have yet to see it on any of the reviews. Would be a shame if it wasn't for that price point.
Will a detuned version of the turbo engine make its way to the Lexus IS350? Infiniti ditched its 3.7L for a 3.0L twin turbo V6 and power output has finally started to compare to the Germans.
Looks, i think overall a pleasing design, but not crazy about the front face.
I wish they would put a v8 on F sport models...
I found the V8 lag of my LS cars unacceptable. Can't get out of a tight intersection quickly enough from 0 mph. Looking forward to the LS500 which has much lower lag.
Two things I don't like. 1. Lack of headroom for taller people. A flagship should be long but also give some space up top. Needs another inch or two. Form shouldn't impede on function. 2. The long and low front end looks like it's going to scrape on more than a few curbs.
Love the flush fitted side glass. Interior design is certainly a break-through among previous generation LS. The grille is abit too loud though. Overall it is a much likeable car to me compare to past LS. Pity that it doesn't have a long wheelbase version because from some other videos capturing the rear space, it doesn't look particularly spacious despite having a wheelbase matching competitors long wheelbase version.
Such a beautiful looking car it is!
I LOVE THE DESIGN, IT TRULY FLOWS...THE INTERIOR WILL TAKE SOME GETTING USE TOO, AS I'M A BMW 5 SERIES GUY. I LIKE THE WHEELS, I LOVE THE CHROME ACCENTS AND GRILL DESIGN, WHICH I WASN'T A BIG FAN OF WITH OTHER MODELS. I CERTAINLY HOPE THEY HAVE BETTER COLOR SELECTION AND INTERIOR COLOR COMBINATIONS. I WOULD DEFINITELY LEASE THIS CAR, NO DOUBT, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO TEST DRIVE IT FIRST. RGEE
The last Lexus LS came out in 2006, so it only took them 11 years to get around to updating their flagship sedan. I feel like LS buyers are now used to driving other cars like the S-Class or 7 Series. I'm sure that the new LS will be safe, reliable, comfortable, and have an amazing technology package. However, I really do not like the styling of the LS inside or out. I really don't like the spindle grille, and feel like the headlight design is busy. On the inside I think the door handles look like a horn, and everything feels aggressive and not relaxing.
because there is an entry level LS with the 3.5 V6 called LS 350
man i love lexus
why do they have to be so expensive :(
I have come to the conclusion that they secretly charge you for their cars reliability on the price tag. Because they are not the faster cars nor the ones with the latest tech. Anyway, the only option is to save....a lot.
Interesting how Lexus seems to be making sure that the LS does not compete directly with the S-Class.
Do they have a hole card coming for that battle, or have they given up, and this is their fold?
This will stay in the mid-$70's base price range
i like the competence of the chassis, still to see how superior it would be against s class and 7 series, jaguar xj etc.. wheels and body looks very attractive, the ls is kinda special. i don't like how it looks too modern in the front. maybe in the back too.. never saw it in person, won't even know how it feels in the interior, tht looks very modern too.
This and the LC 500 are e amazing. The LC is a better car than the DB11. Will this match a Merc?
Will Buy It . Well. Look at other reviews. There is a test of this against the Aston on here. Watch it. Don't forget that it's almost half the price too.
good review!
I'm not impressed with the exterior design. I know it's subjective, but to me it looks too much like the Infiniti from side profile. But obviously it's a great car. I am the proud owner of the LS430 which you can see in my channel. I love it, it only has a little north of 100k miles and I hope to drive it north of 300k. I still get compliments on it, as a matter of fact I had it at the car wash just a couple days ago and someone jokingly asked if I wanted to trade cars. He said "man that is beautiful"
and another thing - the footage is great, too bad it's only 1080p 30 fps.
Why do you need contrast in interior? You wanna make pink dash with 26 inch rims? Go for it
i will be purchasing mine in SP if that color is still an option...
The interior is just beautiful
The exterior looks nice but a little weird muby with time it will grow on me
But the real star here is the interior its just staning in every regard
the best looking in the secmant
not by a long shot
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That car is huge!!!
do not like the knobs on the top sides of the drivers instrument panel. Looks like horns or something, seems out of place. Any reason why the designers put them there?
Yes BTW, great review!
You know what I'm going for the LS 460 F sport Midnight Edition I asked and I'm looking at around $92,000 but it's so damn beautiful
I'm telling y all Lexus and Ford are working together behind the scenes
It looks odd with the wide angle lens you are using. It will probably look better with normal/telephoto lens.
Did i miss your review of the lc500?
The Interior is cool design wise. I like the glass texture thingy & the quilted cloth, but I don't know, I feel like its missing something, I can't put my finger on it though.
I don't like the exterior, it looks like a mashup between the Infiniti Q70 & the Hyundai Azera with some Lexus touches sprinkled on it.
Yeah I can't say it looks good at all, but I'm glad they updated the very dated interior, especially for the rear seat controls, so they're moving in the right direction.
the genesis G90 has a 124 inch wheelbase, while the BMW 7 series has a 126 inch wheelbase.
Hmm, this is definitely a beautiful car. That being said, it looks like the Infiniti M of a few years ago, now the Q70 I believe.
Great interior, cannot see that new glossy touch-button tendency with many screens here, which is good. The exterior- i dont know why it must look so sporty agressive. I think all those sharp edges- front air intake, engine hood, rim design make it loose its presence factor when standing nearby different, smaller, also sporty looking cars. Earlier i thought Lexus is about comfort and quietness, but test drove the new RX450h this week- wind noise is quite high ( they dont even have a double glazing option), looks very sporty and in the same time those 0-60mph times dont impress. Dont know, maybe theyre strictly following customer survey reports, but imo the whole picture doesnt come together.
double glazed front windows come standard on the RX
oh, thats nice, probably Lexus distributor in our region thinks that we dont need them ( salesman says there is no such thing available)
Valdis Vitols im sure you have it in your region salespeople are not very informed for the most part
Lexus DOES NOT make refined and quiet vehicles anymore. That is a MYTH. It was absolutely true in the past (and my 2000 LS 400 is evidence of that). But most models in the last 8 to 10 years or so have become noiser and noiser. Today they have very mediocre refinement and noise isolation (especially ENGINE AND EXHAUST noise). The RX is the worst of them all. I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot barge pole.
Oddly, the Acura MDX is a 1000 times more refined and quiet (especially the MDX-hybrid). Sadly Honda nowadays has poor build-quality and reliability. So, if you want an ultra-reliable vehicle vehicle with bulletproof quality, then your only choice is a Toyota or Lexus. And for many of us this is possibly the most important purchase consideration. So you just have to "hold your nose" and live with it.
vicarouza i own the latest rx and it is an extremely quiet car. The engine is extremely refined. The disappointment is the build quality is actually very bad. I bought it trusting all the hype about lexus quality but the panels feel very loose indeed. Definitely not on par woth audi or mercedes
I don't know if there is enough differentiation in terms of power train or performance from the competition. I think Lexus loyalists and anyone who wants a reliable car will stick with Lexus. For everyone else, the three year lease crowd, the German alternatives are probably far better choices.
I'd take this over an A8 but still needs car play
The exterior maybe but the A8's interior shits on this
That's the opinion on all Toyotas but the reality is that Android and Apple may be gone or change completely long before this car expires. That's why Toyota is not buying into it. They still have cd players cause former owners may still use cd's as well. But you will always be able to stream via bluetooth.
Yon Yonson no, the front resembles the Camry on this Lexus. The A8 wins in design overall but just loses in reliability
I like the interior design changes. However, I think the exterior is a bit boring But I think that luxury flagships in general, whether 7-series, G90, A8, S-class, etc., are largely boring in design.
I am VERY curious as to how you take to the redesigned infotainment. I have a 2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.0T Limited as well as a 2017 Lexus RC 350 FSport (previous gen Remote Touch Interface). Despite being a D-segment car and two years older, the Sonata's infotainment is light years better than the RC's. I've also been lucky to have experienced practically every major manufacturer's infotainment and it's my opinion that Lexus's Remote Touch Interface is the absolute worst in the business, all things considered. The new GUI in the LS has me hoping that the system is easier to use, but seeing the touchpad still in the cabin diminishes that faith.
If it's on the runway. It must be the super super model.
i dont like that its lowered compared to the previous modell... they should raise the LS line. this should be not about sportperformance looks.... this should be about comfort + luxury.