I've noticed that in written Korean (at least in literature) the natural way to say "and" is -으며 to connect sentences. 그리고 is basically used to connect sentences in sequence, the "and then" you said. -아/어서 and -아/어 are also commonly used, I still don't grasp the difference with -으며, but I hope I'll get there. As for spoken Korean, I don't know why but I got all the -도 explanation, it makes total sense even though my brain still wants to understand it as solely "also". Thanks for the video!
Thank you so much Billy! I always learn so much with you :) I'll have to have a word with my native Korean teacher and ask her why she lets me use 그리고 like there's no tomorrow then HAHAHAHHAHA
Ooooh that’s very helpful, I always felt like Koreans used 도 way too much, in a way that didn’t seem natural to me, but as a substitute for 그리고 it absolutely clicked for me! Thank you 🥳
I think it's easy for English speakers to overuse certain words in Korean, because in English we sort of mostly just use one dominant word for these kinds of ideas the majority of the time. There are plenty of alternative ways to say "and", "but", "or", "because", and "so", but most of the time we just use those basic words. And we don't attach them to other words or modify them in any way, so they are always the same. I feel a natural inclination to just use "그리고", "하지만", "아니면", "왜냐하면", and "그래서" all the damn time, because they function most closely to what I'm used to in English.
What I recommend is to compare your Korean to Korean used by actual Koreans and see if it looks aesthetically similar. What kind of patterns are there, etc. What kind of feel is there. Beginning every sentence with "저는" is something that non-native Korean users do a lot, even it would be easy to catch that it smells funny by comparing it to Korean used by actual Koreans.
oh, it's a Particle! I think I learned it at a point where I wasn't clear on particles, so I wasn't sure how to use it effectively. now, I'm used to other particles so it makes a lot more sense. Your videos are always great for clearing up things like that for me - thanks!
Billy, I love these "feelings" videos. I find they really bridge the gap I feel when I don't entirely trust that my meaning is being understood exactly the way I intend. And as for this video, ironically, I kinda have the opposite problem: I use 도 too much, I've been using it to start sentences (in addition to the *and* emphasis explained in this video) but I often start sentences with and, which is considered bad English by old fashioned and formal contexts, but now I see that I should probably use 그리고...and I can more confidently keep using 도 in the other contexts. Fab video.
thank you so much, i always felt like i used 그리고 either wrong or too often, and i just never could understand how to use도 but thanks to this vid i’m confiedent in it and i will try it out lots:)
I always thought 그리고 was closer to "consequently" than "and" If there's no sequence of events, or no explanation for some kind of situation it seems out of place. Also, it overall sounds super formal
그래서 would be the form you're looking for if you want to say "consequently" as you mention :) I have a few episodes about the ~서 form on my channel which explain how this works.
I wouldn't recommend comparing words with punctuation, as Korea also has its own usages for punctuation. You can learn about those here: ua-cam.com/video/HPY3KVY1ZP4/v-deo.html
Good, this video is real good. But my comment will go elsewhere : you frequently end your videos with 그럼 . I tried many times to use it as ´then’ , ´so’ and I keep on being said that’s wrong usage. Please make a video on its real meaning and appropriate usage 🙏
So... "I went to a party. Oh and then I met a celebrity." Use it. I went to a party and then met a celebrity and then went to an other part". Don't use it?
I've noticed that in written Korean (at least in literature) the natural way to say "and" is -으며 to connect sentences. 그리고 is basically used to connect sentences in sequence, the "and then" you said. -아/어서 and -아/어 are also commonly used, I still don't grasp the difference with -으며, but I hope I'll get there.
As for spoken Korean, I don't know why but I got all the -도 explanation, it makes total sense even though my brain still wants to understand it as solely "also". Thanks for the video!
The (으)며 you're referring to is just a connector that works similar to ~고, so you can use it in the same way. But it's not as common in speech.
Thank you so much Billy! I always learn so much with you :) I'll have to have a word with my native Korean teacher and ask her why she lets me use 그리고 like there's no tomorrow then HAHAHAHHAHA
She lets you use it because you're not making a mistake, and if what you're saying makes sense you're doing a good job ;-)
@@GoBillyKorean Oh I see! You just made my day ㅠuㅠ 감사합니다~
Ooooh that’s very helpful, I always felt like Koreans used 도 way too much, in a way that didn’t seem natural to me, but as a substitute for 그리고 it absolutely clicked for me! Thank you 🥳
I think it's easy for English speakers to overuse certain words in Korean, because in English we sort of mostly just use one dominant word for these kinds of ideas the majority of the time. There are plenty of alternative ways to say "and", "but", "or", "because", and "so", but most of the time we just use those basic words. And we don't attach them to other words or modify them in any way, so they are always the same. I feel a natural inclination to just use "그리고", "하지만", "아니면", "왜냐하면", and "그래서" all the damn time, because they function most closely to what I'm used to in English.
What I recommend is to compare your Korean to Korean used by actual Koreans and see if it looks aesthetically similar. What kind of patterns are there, etc. What kind of feel is there.
Beginning every sentence with "저는" is something that non-native Korean users do a lot, even it would be easy to catch that it smells funny by comparing it to Korean used by actual Koreans.
But the real question is: Why is Ryan George learning Korean ??👀
oh, it's a Particle! I think I learned it at a point where I wasn't clear on particles, so I wasn't sure how to use it effectively. now, I'm used to other particles so it makes a lot more sense. Your videos are always great for clearing up things like that for me - thanks!
Billy, I love these "feelings" videos. I find they really bridge the gap I feel when I don't entirely trust that my meaning is being understood exactly the way I intend. And as for this video, ironically, I kinda have the opposite problem: I use 도 too much, I've been using it to start sentences (in addition to the *and* emphasis explained in this video) but I often start sentences with and, which is considered bad English by old fashioned and formal contexts, but now I see that I should probably use 그리고...and I can more confidently keep using 도 in the other contexts. Fab video.
In my head, I translate 그리고 as "therefore"....maybe very formal english, but it gives me a better sense how to use it in korean it seems lol
I do actually use 그리고 way too much, my grandmother always tells me stop 😭
I know exactly what youre explaining. I don't know when or how I picked it up, I just found myself using 도 in this way and im impressed by myself
thank you so much, i always felt like i used 그리고 either wrong or too often, and i just never could understand how to use도 but thanks to this vid i’m confiedent in it and i will try it out lots:)
Thank you Billy! These nuanced explainers are really helpful!
Thank you for the video!! 😊😊
i feel adding "do" is like giving the sentence more colloquial undertone, and "geurigo" feels more of a traditional grammar translation
Great video as usual, thank you Billy!
I always thought 그리고 was closer to "consequently" than "and"
If there's no sequence of events, or no explanation for some kind of situation it seems out of place. Also, it overall sounds super formal
그래서 would be the form you're looking for if you want to say "consequently" as you mention :) I have a few episodes about the ~서 form on my channel which explain how this works.
Always thankful for your videos
Thank you so much ❣️
Everytime I read the word 그리고 a jannabi song plays in my head 😅 🎶
감사합니다 빌리샘 영상도 좋아합니다
I struggle with this 😭 Thank you!
Thanks a lot Billy!! 😊🙌🏻
I always noticed that Korean uses 도 more than I thought we would say it in English and I knew there had to be a reason. Thank you Billy!!!!
I have noticed the particle 도 in K-drama. I hear these sentences a lot: 나도 사랑해 and 나도 몰라...
Ohh! Good video. Thank you!
So it is like 'Furthermore' ?
That's 게다가 🙃
@@yopla250 and how is 게다가 used differently from 그리고?
@@auricia201 you use it even more sparingly than 그리고, when you want to emphasize than you're adding some extra info 😄
@@yopla250 is it more formal than 그리고?
@@auricia201 that's a question I'm not able to answer (👀") sorry 😅 I'm still an early intermediate learner 🙈
i didn't know it could be used that way , thanks
This was so well explained. Yokshi 😉👏
Would you say that “그리고” would work more as a semicolon and a colon in English instead of being a way to say “and?”
I wouldn't recommend comparing words with punctuation, as Korea also has its own usages for punctuation. You can learn about those here: ua-cam.com/video/HPY3KVY1ZP4/v-deo.html
do you have any ideas on what could help to speak it more fluently?
I feel like Go Billy gets me more than Billy Go.
My first instinct for that first situation would be to say 소리도 크고(요). Would that be acceptable?
I overuse all my Korean vocabulary because I have so little to work with 😓
That's great if you're trying to use what you know. The more you learn, that will become harder to do. You're doing good!
So use it to connect sentences when appropriate - but don't think of it as "and"
What is the difference between 그리고 and 하고 ?
Isn't 하고 used to join/add nouns?
But I have an additional question, what about 와? Which I think it's also used to add nouns?
하고 attaches to nouns:
Chocolate and Icecream = 초콜릿하고 아이스크림
@@auricia201 와 and 과 are the same as 하고 but are very polite. Tbh, you will rarely (if ever) hear or have to say 와/과 - they tend to only be written.
하고/와/과/랑 are all joint “and” connectors of nouns within a sentence, can’t be used to start a new clause
@@oodaluke ahh, I see, thanks!
Good, this video is real good. But my comment will go elsewhere : you frequently end your videos with 그럼 . I tried many times to use it as ´then’ , ´so’ and I keep on being said that’s wrong usage. Please make a video on its real meaning and appropriate usage 🙏
It's 그럼 from 그러면, so not just "then" but more like "Well then."
I didn't even know about this word
It’s one of those words you know? It just...words well.
알고있지만 그럼에도 불구하고 @@
So... "I went to a party. Oh and then I met a celebrity." Use it.
I went to a party and then met a celebrity and then went to an other part". Don't use it?
In the middle of a sentence you would have several other options you could use. You could use ~고 or ~서 for connecting sentences, for example.
YOU GUYS, BILLY DOESN'T ACTUALLY WRITE BACKWARDS. IT'S ALL A TRICK!