I like the format of your last few vids. Brief vids showing your expirimentation and sharing your results, good and bad. No overblown hype or trying to impress with "superior knowledge". Keep it up 👍
I’ve noticed a few times it’s been two touching and one is tossed out. When my Tikka was still in it’s factory stock there was a cross rib in the stock that was contacting the barrel when the rifle was being fired. You could run paper up and down it all day and never feel it. But the visible mark was present on the underside of the barrel when removed from the stock
thats good accuracy bud. recently got the wife the same rifle and started working with it. like yourself I’m running the long mags and the bullets seated out. so far i’ve tested 162 eld-x 40.5 gr varget 2650fps decent accuracy 150 ABLR with 6.5 sta ball. good velocity cant remember exactly 2800 ish i believe decent accuracy and the winner for me was 139 gr LRX with 6.5 StaBall. Ran it to 3050fps. picked about moa accuracy at 2975fps. Thats practically taking the 7-08 to the level of a 270/280. was thrilled with the results. It’s going to be used on moose so i wanted to squeeze absolutely everything i could out of it. Cheers and keep posting the videos!!
I'm glad you posted that. Loading 708 is still in my future. I've only dabbled so far, nothing serious and that's because the factory rifle I have is doing just fine with factory Norma and Hornady ammo, as in crazy accuracy. But that rifle has a major handicap. It's right handed. My leftie will be in process very soon. Just got the email yesterday my barrels are ready to ship. I have Superformance, TAC, Hunter, Big Game, Staball 6.5, Re19, Re15, H and IMR4350 on hand. I did some reading and apparently Win 748 is also good? I can get some. It's on the shelves around here.
@@Accuracy1st Not sure what happened to my first reply, but I'll try again. I've not heard of 748 for the 7-08, but Win 760 is listed alongside Big Game and SB 6.5 for the 150 and 162 class bullets. The online free Hodgdon reloading cetner is very handy for researching 7-08 as well as tons of other cartridge loads. For some the bullet selection is limited, and for others, like the 7-08, it's quite good. I also use Bison Ballisitcs free recoil and ballistics calculators when researching load data. Another VERY hand site.
@@Accuracy1st Roger that, and the 120 TTSX max charge data isn't listing for some reason on the Hodgdon site. However, there is a ton of data for the 120 NBT and 24" barrel. Bullet: 120 GR. NOS BT Diameter: 0.284" Case: Remington Primer: Remington 9 1/2, Large Rifle Starting Load Maximum Load Availability Manufacturer Powder C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Winchester StaBALL 6.5 2.800" 46.6 2,839 39,000 PSI 53.0C 3,201 54,800 PSI Buy Now Hodgdon H4350 2.800" 48.0 2,895 39,300 CUP 50.0C 3,039 44,600 CUP Buy Now Hodgdon CFE 223 2.800" 46.0 2,944 40,700 CUP 49.5 3,151 50,000 CUP Buy Now Hodgdon H414 2.800" 46.5 2,867 40,600 CUP 49.0 3,023 47,600 CUP Discontinued Winchester 760 2.800" 46.5 2,867 40,600 CUP 49.0 3,023 47,600 CUP Buy Now Hodgdon H380 2.800" 46.0 2,881 40,200 CUP 48.0 2,977 43,400 CUP Buy Now Winchester StaBALL Match 2.800" 43.2 2,834 45,700 PSI 47.0 3,074 59,700 PSI Buy Now Hodgdon BL-C(2) 2.800" 43.5 2,932 41,400 CUP 46.5 3,109 50,100 CUP Buy Now Hodgdon Varget 2.800" 42.5 2,996 43,800 CUP 45.0 3,117 49,900 CUP Buy Now IMR IMR 4166 2.800" 41.5 2,861 40,600 CUP 44.8 3,055 49,000 CUP Out of Stock IMR IMR 4320 2.800" 42.0 2,861 45,400 CUP 44.7 3,001 50,400 CUP Discontinued IMR IMR 4895 2.800" 41.5 2,861 43,900 CUP 44.0 3,022 49,800 CUP Buy Now IMR IMR 4064 2.800" 41.0 2,839 41,500 CUP 43.9 3,017 50,000 CUP Buy Now Hodgdon H4895 2.800" 41.0 2,931 42,200 CUP 43.7 3,085 49,700 CUP Out of Stock IMR IMR 8208 XBR 2.800" 40.1 2,830 40,500 CUP 42.7 2,997 48,900 CUP Buy Now Hodgdon H335 2.800" 39.5 2,810 42,100 CUP 42.0 2,984 49,400 CUP Buy Now Hodgdon Benchmark 2.800" 39.0 2,812 40,900 CUP 41.3 2,968 49,000 CUP Buy Now IMR IMR 3031 2.800" 38.5 2,826 42,700 CUP 41.0 2,987 50,500 CUP
Another great video thank you keep doing what you're doing. I've noticed when I use Winchester large rifle primers. I gain 30 feet per second no matter which caliber I'm shooting. And one other thing that hunter powder is not temperature stable.
Thank you for the video. Well done! Seems like great loading. I’ll bet it turns in tighter groups with a few more samplings at that charge. So ive always been fond of the 708. My rifle is a 20” barrel model 700 (sporter weight). I have tried and tried to get it to shoot under an inch. Only two loads have done it (occasionally). 120gr Barnes TTSX and Berger 140gr vld hunt. Still love the little handy rifle. I think the 120gr Barnes punches way above its weight. Have a great weekend.
You are testing a lot like I do with my loads , accuracy is the first thing I go for and take it from that point ! One ctg took me 7 powders and close to two years of testing each bullet weight ! It’s time consuming! Bullet A load 5 rounds ! Bullet B load 5 rounds ! Bullet C load 5 rounds ! When I reach the tightest group then I move to powder B starting with the lightest bullet and go up from there in charge weights !! It’s a lot of bench time I will say that !😮 but oh the fun it is ! Near the end of the pandemic I started again with two new different bullet weights and a new powder , first load with each bullet shot into 3/4” group and under ! I’am happy with both loads ! I changed the powder charge 3/10 of a grain in both and have not put them on target yet !
@@hopefulballistics Looking in my log data book it’s sometimes a powder let’s just say Reloader -7 was one that wasn’t the holy grail for that ctg , I quit after 45 bullets , just didn’t come together! Viht N 130 did real well after 25 bullets ! Viht N 133 did even tighter groups and my data shows it did it on the 3 rd group , 15 bullets ! IMR 4198 grouped right from the start excellent groups from second group 10 bullets to get there ! As bad as I wanted some powders to drive thumb tacks , it didn’t happen from my barrel ! All I can do is try the powder after I get more positive feedback! Now my last one when I picked up a pound of Win 748 ! ( a lot of research goes into it first , 5 reloading manuals first ) Online data next , what are other shooters using ( charge weight and bullet weight )and what is their results ? It’s not cut in stone my barrel will produce the same result ! First two groups were excellent using Nosler and a Speer bullet , that cookie dough mix made the best cookies !
I use 6.5 Stabal at a max load from HODGDON with a 150eld x in a Tikka 22 in barrel , i use a long action box mag and cut the bolt stop back to allow for the bolt to pick up the much longer load than SAAMI.
You're right on track with the fps in factory loaded premium ammunition. Without you have a 24"-26" barrel then expect a little more. Cartridges are like golf clubs if you want faster 7rem/7 PRC keep up the good work
Considering the Hornady Precision Hunter with 150 grain ELDX is listed at 2750, there's nothing disappointing with the velocities of your first two loads. I would gladly hunt with them. Velocity isn't everything that's why I love the 7mm-08. Pleasant shooting with good accuracy.
I'm Thinking That Trying Reloader 19 For The 160 grainer and Reloader 17 for the 150 grainer! Especially, Since Your Rifle Likes Superformance For the 160 grain Bullet - Which is Smack InBetween Stabal 6.5 and Reloader 19 on the Burn Rate Chart!
1st and 2nd groups with those velocities, SD's and groups, in my opinion, I would be thrilled with those results with a 150 gr bullet. I know you were looking for faster velocities, but as the old saying goes, speed thrills, accuracy kills. great video.
By the way, that factory Norma Whitetail 150 grain stuff is moving a whopping 2500-ish fps in that Compact Tikka 708 of mine. Blows through deer boiler room at 300.....soooo, I can only imagine what that ABLR would do, sleeker, longer, higher BC, and going quite a bit faster
There are guys with way more experience with the 7-08 than me that have killed a pile of elk and mule deer with the 150 ELDX and Big Game as well. Excellent balance of speed, BC, and recoil. ELDX expands reliably down to 1800 FPS, so you can stretch its legs if you're capable of shooting longer ranges.
If you like maximized penetration and exit wounds, then the AB and partition are excellent choices. However, if you like maximum wound channels and like a fragmenting style bullet and best possible BC, the VLD, ELDM, ELDX, and TMK are fantastic. Totally personal preference depending on how you want your bullets to perform.
My thoughts are your 3rd shot is always out of group, so your barrel is warmed up an causing a slit flyer, let it cool a bit before 3 rd shot, see what happens...
That’s right about where you should be with a 22.4” barrel. You might be able to cheat by going over book max and get closer to 2800, but it’s not worth it in my opinion. Stick with what’s most accurate. Deer won’t notice the 75 FPS difference. Those bullets are good for expansion down to about 1500 fps, so you’re good for expansion and energy out to about 700 yards as it is. If you’re dead set on speed, you can try a slightly faster powder if you’re using a compressed load of Ramshot Hunter. Superformance, StaBall 6.5 or HybridV 100 might get you closer to 2800+ with the 150’s, but honestly I think you have a winner as it is.
You're like me, the average Joe DeerTag. I don't need to cloverleaf my groups to fill a freezer with deer, pronghorn, or elk meat. Not a benchrest shooter, so I don't invest too heavily in accuracy over velocity. A healthy dose of both with my handloads, and I'm good.
I have a love/hate relationship with my chronograph. It's nice to watch velocities and performance and pressure signs but sometimes we look at numbers and start thinking the wrong thoughts. Do you load up and pick and chose from selected nodes ?You may find 2, 3 or even possibly 4 and could chase the next node as you may get the accuracy with the speed you desire prior to pressure signs. I know we can't post photos here but looking back at some of my data you can watch group tests close, open , close and open and even close again. Have you considered ladder test method to also find these nodes? Saves on initial trigger time for sure I've found. As for the 7/08 it's a gem to load for and to use on almost all N.American game. W760 and H4350 have given me decent results over the years.
I have used ladder tests a few times. I probably don’t put in the work that many do. I’m happy with MOA groups or better, and SD velocities around 10 or under. My main focus is getting the desired velocity I want without pressure. This to me keep is fun to see the potential of the cartridge and load. But if the sd or group size is bad I scrap it.
Never even thought Ramshot hunter in 7/08 but very consistent velocities there. Even tho you didn’t hit your target velocity I would be satisfied with initial test run.
I’ve just about given up on any Ramshot powders. Won’t hit the velocity or accuracy as their Hodgdon counterparts in multiple caliber and projectiles I’ve tried them in Not saying they can’t. I’ve just not had luck so reluctant to keep trying
@@hopefulballistics glad you’re getting good results! Certainly cheaper and more available than most of the hodgdon stuff. I haven’t used hunter but I’ve used TAC and found CFE223 gives better results all around over TAC. At least in my load ups. Awesome work with the 7-08!! Definitely an underdog that doesn’t get the credit it deserves
I'm not completely sold on the Hunter powder choice at this point..might not be the best if you're in a hurry to get to the target. Sometimes slowing down a little bit gets the wink if it likes hitting the same spot.
Only ABLRs I've tried in anything so far is in 6.5PRC. They did ok at 1 MOA but I didn't work with them a lot. Too many projects ongoing at the same time. I have several in various cartridges but have yet to start with them. I've heard quite a few times ABLRs are quite finicky to load.
Where does this burn rate fall in with H4350? I Only had H4350 on hand at the time to try with the 162gr Hornady AMax bullets, that I only tried because I have 500 of them still. lol I ended up with a finished velocity of 2825 with a 11 SD. Not single digit SD but I shot this load out at 500 yds and it still holds a 2.2" groups actual at 500 yds. with 100 yd groups being in a cloverleaf with all 3 shots overlapping, not just touching... I'm not 100% but I did read that the Ramshot powders are a little temperature sensitive.
Are you jumping the bullets out that far because you need the powder space? If not I’d play around with your coal. I’m getting 2720 out of my tikka t3x With 45grns of h380 with the 150 grn ablr at 2.880 coal .68 in groups 100yrds
@ thanks for the info! I’ve been wanting to try the accubond lr 150’s with reloader 17 and ram shot big game but have not been able to find the powder (reasonably priced)
Did you get to 49.5 grains of powder yet? It seems your velocities are on par with most powders listed on the Hodgdon site. The highest speed I saw with a 150 was using Staball 6.5. What are the differences in numbers with this bullet at it's best accuracy/velocity, taking into account the BC compared to the 162 grain bullets you loaded at their higher velocity but lower BC? With the ABLR being softer and designed to open easier and faster than the AB, I'd take that most accurate load you shot and be done with it unless you plan on trying different powders. I looked at the Nosler book and Reloder 19 also did well. For whatever reasons I've had quite a few cartridges get better velocities in a rifle I'm shooting with a powder listed that is slower in their manual. For example, you possibly could get better speed if you try Reloder 19.
No experience with 7mm-08 or Ramshot powder but try something different first. Just curious if you're able to magazine feed with the ABLR? They look like a long OAL.
A 5 s.d. is awesome, anything under 20 is good to go. Powder charge is perfect, work on seating depth for accuracy now. Reference erick cortina for this. - RED
Nope I think you should scrap it all ! send me the load data and the rifle and I will dispose of them for you .... sarcasm ! I think it is looking very promising check it some more but check again in the temperature you will hunt in and the elevation also.. hunting weather is when you'll need to test it . hopefully I am making sense
I dont see why you utubers are so obsessed with velocity your groups got bigger the faster you pushed them..the 7mm08 is a 300 yd gun for game hunting.you should be able to get point blank 300 yd zero with your first load so save your barrel a little wear and go hunting.Unless your one of these u.tube long bomb at game clowns then your vids will get the three dots from me
@@hopefulballistics I get what your saying it is fun.The only advise I would give you is right it all down as you do it.Life happens and you get into other things and you wind up with a bunch of boxes of bullets with 5 to ten used out of it and you'll be wondering now where the hell did I get these trust me on this one
Truly hope you enjoy that rifle. BUT- I am sure as heck not seeing that "legendary" Tikka accuracy the Tikka fanbois rave about online..My 308 Ruger Anerican shoots that well. So did the Savages you have shot in this channel...
I always seek accuracy first. THEN velocity. I will balance the two is in "range" of my desire.
@@cw2a makes sense
I seek the accuracy first only of the upper spectrum of the speed , if it’s super accurate way slower than I want then I try another powder
I like the format of your last few vids. Brief vids showing your expirimentation and sharing your results, good and bad. No overblown hype or trying to impress with "superior knowledge". Keep it up 👍
Thank you very much!
The 2nd load, even though it's a little under the velocity you were hoping for, is a "load up and go hunting load" in my book. 🎯🎯
Right on, thanks
I’ve noticed a few times it’s been two touching and one is tossed out. When my Tikka was still in it’s factory stock there was a cross rib in the stock that was contacting the barrel when the rifle was being fired. You could run paper up and down it all day and never feel it. But the visible mark was present on the underside of the barrel when removed from the stock
@@Dalesarty I saw that when I had it apart
Moment of Deer is fantastic.
thats good accuracy bud. recently got the wife the same rifle and started working with it. like yourself I’m running the long mags and the bullets seated out.
so far i’ve tested 162 eld-x 40.5 gr varget 2650fps decent accuracy
150 ABLR with 6.5 sta ball. good velocity cant remember exactly 2800 ish i believe decent accuracy
and the winner for me was 139 gr LRX with 6.5 StaBall. Ran it to 3050fps. picked about moa accuracy at 2975fps. Thats practically taking the 7-08 to the level of a 270/280. was thrilled with the results. It’s going to be used on moose so i wanted to squeeze absolutely everything i could out of it. Cheers and keep posting the videos!!
@@cody182005 I used Big Game with the 139 Lrx. 2950 fps, but accuracy was poor.
It doesn't matter how fast it's going if it doesn't hit where you're aiming, I think that's pretty good accuracy!
Thanks
Big Game and Staball 6.5 rock for the 7-08 and the 150 and 162 grain bullets. I've had excellent accuracy and velocity with SB 6.5.
I'm glad you posted that. Loading 708 is still in my future. I've only dabbled so far, nothing serious and that's because the factory rifle I have is doing just fine with factory Norma and Hornady ammo, as in crazy accuracy. But that rifle has a major handicap. It's right handed. My leftie will be in process very soon. Just got the email yesterday my barrels are ready to ship. I have Superformance, TAC, Hunter, Big Game, Staball 6.5, Re19, Re15, H and IMR4350 on hand. I did some reading and apparently Win 748 is also good? I can get some. It's on the shelves around here.
@@Accuracy1st Not sure what happened to my first reply, but I'll try again. I've not heard of 748 for the 7-08, but Win 760 is listed alongside Big Game and SB 6.5 for the 150 and 162 class bullets. The online free Hodgdon reloading cetner is very handy for researching 7-08 as well as tons of other cartridge loads. For some the bullet selection is limited, and for others, like the 7-08, it's quite good.
I also use Bison Ballisitcs free recoil and ballistics calculators when researching load data. Another VERY hand site.
I'm happy to have found your 7mm-08 videos. I'm getting ready to reload for my 7mm-08 and these videos are helpful. I'm looking forward to more. 👍
@@MrJoelJ1 I found the 748 listed on the Barnes site. I bought the 120TTSX to try and still considering the 110TTSX. I knew I saw it somewhere.
@@Accuracy1st Roger that, and the 120 TTSX max charge data isn't listing for some reason on the Hodgdon site. However, there is a ton of data for the 120 NBT and 24" barrel.
Bullet: 120 GR. NOS BT Diameter: 0.284" Case: Remington Primer: Remington 9 1/2, Large Rifle
Starting Load Maximum Load Availability
Manufacturer Powder C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
Winchester StaBALL 6.5
2.800" 46.6 2,839 39,000 PSI 53.0C 3,201 54,800 PSI Buy Now
Hodgdon H4350
2.800" 48.0 2,895 39,300 CUP 50.0C 3,039 44,600 CUP Buy Now
Hodgdon CFE 223
2.800" 46.0 2,944 40,700 CUP 49.5 3,151 50,000 CUP Buy Now
Hodgdon
H414 2.800" 46.5 2,867 40,600 CUP 49.0 3,023 47,600 CUP Discontinued
Winchester 760
2.800" 46.5 2,867 40,600 CUP 49.0 3,023 47,600 CUP Buy Now
Hodgdon H380
2.800" 46.0 2,881 40,200 CUP 48.0 2,977 43,400 CUP Buy Now
Winchester StaBALL Match
2.800" 43.2 2,834 45,700 PSI 47.0 3,074 59,700 PSI Buy Now
Hodgdon BL-C(2)
2.800" 43.5 2,932 41,400 CUP 46.5 3,109 50,100 CUP Buy Now
Hodgdon Varget
2.800" 42.5 2,996 43,800 CUP 45.0 3,117 49,900 CUP Buy Now
IMR IMR 4166
2.800" 41.5 2,861 40,600 CUP 44.8 3,055 49,000 CUP Out of Stock
IMR IMR 4320
2.800" 42.0 2,861 45,400 CUP 44.7 3,001 50,400 CUP Discontinued
IMR IMR 4895
2.800" 41.5 2,861 43,900 CUP 44.0 3,022 49,800 CUP Buy Now
IMR IMR 4064
2.800" 41.0 2,839 41,500 CUP 43.9 3,017 50,000 CUP Buy Now
Hodgdon H4895
2.800" 41.0 2,931 42,200 CUP 43.7 3,085 49,700 CUP Out of Stock
IMR IMR 8208 XBR
2.800" 40.1 2,830 40,500 CUP 42.7 2,997 48,900 CUP Buy Now
Hodgdon H335
2.800" 39.5 2,810 42,100 CUP 42.0 2,984 49,400 CUP Buy Now
Hodgdon Benchmark
2.800" 39.0 2,812 40,900 CUP 41.3 2,968 49,000 CUP Buy Now
IMR IMR 3031
2.800" 38.5 2,826 42,700 CUP 41.0 2,987 50,500 CUP
I have been loading some barnes tsx with hunter and others
Good results?
I thank that’s great accuracy, especially for hunting load
Thanks
Looking to purchase a 7mm-08 your videos are really helpful. New subscriber
Welcome aboard!
Another great video thank you keep doing what you're doing. I've noticed when I use Winchester large rifle primers. I gain 30 feet per second no matter which caliber I'm shooting. And one other thing that hunter powder is not temperature stable.
Thank you!
Thank you for the video. Well done!
Seems like great loading. I’ll bet it turns in tighter groups with a few more samplings at that charge.
So ive always been fond of the 708. My rifle is a 20” barrel model 700 (sporter weight). I have tried and tried to get it to shoot under an inch. Only two loads have done it (occasionally). 120gr Barnes TTSX and Berger 140gr vld hunt.
Still love the little handy rifle. I think the 120gr Barnes punches way above its weight.
Have a great weekend.
Thank you! You as well!
Looks like great potential. I would mess around with that last load again. Change the seating depth.
Not a bad idea
It’s obvious this rifle likes that bullet. Consistent groups. It’s shooting well
@@westdesertwheeler I appreciate it
I've had great luck with H414 and the Hornady 150 ELD-x, 2810 avg, sd of 11.3 and .742 group.
@@MrDraylox thanks
You are testing a lot like I do with my loads , accuracy is the first thing I go for and take it from that point !
One ctg took me 7 powders and close to two years of testing each bullet weight ! It’s time consuming!
Bullet A load 5 rounds !
Bullet B load 5 rounds !
Bullet C load 5 rounds !
When I reach the tightest group then I move to powder B starting with the lightest bullet and go up from there in charge weights !!
It’s a lot of bench time I will say that !😮 but oh the fun it is !
Near the end of the pandemic I started again with two new different bullet weights and a new powder , first load with each bullet shot into 3/4” group and under ! I’am happy with both loads !
I changed the powder charge 3/10 of a grain in both and have not put them on target yet !
How many shots on average until you’re 100% happy?
@@hopefulballistics Looking in my log data book it’s sometimes a powder let’s just say Reloader -7 was one that wasn’t the holy grail for that ctg , I quit after 45 bullets , just didn’t come together!
Viht N 130 did real well after 25 bullets !
Viht N 133 did even tighter groups and my data shows it did it on the 3 rd group , 15 bullets !
IMR 4198 grouped right from the start excellent groups from second group 10 bullets to get there !
As bad as I wanted some powders to drive thumb tacks , it didn’t happen from my barrel ! All I can do is try the powder after I get more positive feedback!
Now my last one when I picked up a pound of Win 748 ! ( a lot of research goes into it first , 5 reloading manuals first )
Online data next , what are other shooters using ( charge weight and bullet weight )and what is their results ? It’s not cut in stone my barrel will produce the same result !
First two groups were excellent using Nosler and a Speer bullet , that cookie dough mix made the best cookies !
I use 6.5 Stabal at a max load from HODGDON with a 150eld x in a Tikka 22 in barrel , i use a long action box mag and cut the bolt stop back to allow for the bolt to pick up the much longer load than SAAMI.
2855 fps
Very nice
You're right on track with the fps in factory loaded premium ammunition. Without you have a 24"-26" barrel then expect a little more. Cartridges are like golf clubs if you want faster 7rem/7 PRC keep up the good work
I appreciate it
Considering the Hornady Precision Hunter with 150 grain ELDX is listed at 2750, there's nothing disappointing with the velocities of your first two loads. I would gladly hunt with them. Velocity isn't everything that's why I love the 7mm-08. Pleasant shooting with good accuracy.
It’s definitely good enough, I’m happy with it
Y’all need to understand that box ammo has horrible es and sd 95 percent of the time ! Speed is worthless for long range if it isn’t consistent !
Good video usually when i load i go till hit pressure then back off lil and usually the accuracy is good right at pressure but not all the time
I’ve seen that too
I am working on loads for my 7mm08 using Staball 6.5 and Hornady 150 ELDX.
Cool
Try some of them yellow box bullets. Berger! groups will tighten up. StaBall 6.5
I'm Thinking That Trying Reloader 19 For The 160 grainer and Reloader 17 for the 150 grainer! Especially, Since Your Rifle Likes Superformance For the 160 grain Bullet - Which is Smack InBetween Stabal 6.5 and Reloader 19 on the Burn Rate Chart!
👨🔬 I Call It "Powder Tuning" Your Rifle! 🤭
I have no doubt they would be good
1st and 2nd groups with those velocities, SD's and groups, in my opinion, I would be thrilled with those results with a 150 gr bullet. I know you were looking for faster velocities, but as the old saying goes, speed thrills, accuracy kills. great video.
@@creedbleed8848 thanks!
By the way, that factory Norma Whitetail 150 grain stuff is moving a whopping 2500-ish fps in that Compact Tikka 708 of mine. Blows through deer boiler room at 300.....soooo, I can only imagine what that ABLR would do, sleeker, longer, higher BC, and going quite a bit faster
I think it would be a great all around bullet!
2750 is fine!
Great upload.
Australia
@@glennllewellyn7369 I appreciate it, thanks
There are guys with way more experience with the 7-08 than me that have killed a pile of elk and mule deer with the 150 ELDX and Big Game as well. Excellent balance of speed, BC, and recoil. ELDX expands reliably down to 1800 FPS, so you can stretch its legs if you're capable of shooting longer ranges.
I like ELDX, but I prefer bonded bullets.
Nosler accubond is the end all be all imo! I reload about 15 different hunting calibers
If you like maximized penetration and exit wounds, then the AB and partition are excellent choices. However, if you like maximum wound channels and like a fragmenting style bullet and best possible BC, the VLD, ELDM, ELDX, and TMK are fantastic. Totally personal preference depending on how you want your bullets to perform.
Win 760 will give you more velocity and maintain or improve accuracy.
That’s within minute of deer, elk , moose, if it’s for hunting your good mate, cheers Yogi ✌️🇦🇺
@@rosalindstewart7013 I agree, thanks!
My thoughts are your 3rd shot is always out of group, so your barrel is warmed up an causing a slit flyer, let it cool a bit before 3 rd shot, see what happens...
That’s right about where you should be with a 22.4” barrel. You might be able to cheat by going over book max and get closer to 2800, but it’s not worth it in my opinion. Stick with what’s most accurate. Deer won’t notice the 75 FPS difference. Those bullets are good for expansion down to about 1500 fps, so you’re good for expansion and energy out to about 700 yards as it is. If you’re dead set on speed, you can try a slightly faster powder if you’re using a compressed load of Ramshot Hunter. Superformance, StaBall 6.5 or HybridV 100 might get you closer to 2800+ with the 150’s, but honestly I think you have a winner as it is.
I appreciate it, thanks
You're like me, the average Joe DeerTag. I don't need to cloverleaf my groups to fill a freezer with deer, pronghorn, or elk meat.
Not a benchrest shooter, so I don't invest too heavily in accuracy over velocity. A healthy dose of both with my handloads, and I'm good.
I’m happy with MOA
@@hopefulballistics
You and me both, chief. 👍🏿
Just buy nosler loaded ammo then
I have a love/hate relationship with my chronograph.
It's nice to watch velocities and performance and pressure signs but sometimes we look at numbers and start thinking the wrong thoughts.
Do you load up and pick and chose from selected nodes ?You may find 2, 3 or even possibly 4 and could chase the next node as you may get the accuracy with the speed you desire prior to pressure signs.
I know we can't post photos here but looking back at some of my data you can watch group tests close, open , close and open and even close again.
Have you considered ladder test method to also find these nodes? Saves on initial trigger time for sure I've found.
As for the 7/08 it's a gem to load for and to use on almost all N.American game.
W760 and H4350 have given me decent results over the years.
I have used ladder tests a few times. I probably don’t put in the work that many do. I’m happy with MOA groups or better, and SD velocities around 10 or under. My main focus is getting the desired velocity I want without pressure. This to me keep is fun to see the potential of the cartridge and load. But if the sd or group size is bad I scrap it.
Never even thought Ramshot hunter in 7/08 but very consistent velocities there. Even tho you didn’t hit your target velocity I would be satisfied with initial test run.
Good call, thanks
I’ve just about given up on any Ramshot powders. Won’t hit the velocity or accuracy as their Hodgdon counterparts in multiple caliber and projectiles I’ve tried them in
Not saying they can’t. I’ve just not had luck so reluctant to keep trying
I’ve had a different experience with TAC and Big Game. I got good velocity in those two.
@@hopefulballistics glad you’re getting good results! Certainly cheaper and more available than most of the hodgdon stuff.
I haven’t used hunter but I’ve used TAC and found CFE223 gives better results all around over TAC. At least in my load ups.
Awesome work with the 7-08!! Definitely an underdog that doesn’t get the credit it deserves
Never had accuracy out of hunter powder.
@@AlaskanBallistics I appreciate it
Same
Keep it, try 140 grain for more speed
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Try that bullet with the StaBall6.5 powder to get 2900
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I'm not completely sold on the Hunter powder choice at this point..might not be the best if you're in a hurry to get to the target. Sometimes slowing down a little bit gets the wink if it likes hitting the same spot.
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Only ABLRs I've tried in anything so far is in 6.5PRC. They did ok at 1 MOA but I didn't work with them a lot. Too many projects ongoing at the same time. I have several in various cartridges but have yet to start with them. I've heard quite a few times ABLRs are quite finicky to load.
@@Accuracy1st I’ve heard that too. This is my 2nd go around with ABLRs. I would MOA is the best I got.
Accubonds fly great ! They love to be close to the lands not seated deep at all
@@jonah-n8l Accubonds or Accubond LONG RANGE?
Where does this burn rate fall in with H4350? I Only had H4350 on hand at the time to try with the 162gr Hornady AMax bullets, that I only tried because I have 500 of them still. lol I ended up with a finished velocity of 2825 with a 11 SD. Not single digit SD but I shot this load out at 500 yds and it still holds a 2.2" groups actual at 500 yds. with 100 yd groups being in a cloverleaf with all 3 shots overlapping, not just touching... I'm not 100% but I did read that the Ramshot powders are a little temperature sensitive.
@@dougroope8040 a little slower than the 4350’s.
I like Hunter made in Belgium
Right on
Question:
I've seen you do this on a lot of your videos. When you create the two tests loads to verify pressure, how exactly do you load them?
They’re just lower powder charges, nothing else different.
Are you jumping the bullets out that far because you need the powder space? If not I’d play around with your coal. I’m getting 2720 out of my tikka t3x With 45grns of h380 with the 150 grn ablr at 2.880 coal .68 in groups 100yrds
@@brentbridges6692 I always start 20 thou off the lands unless it’s a monolithic bullet, which is 50 thou.
@ thanks for the info! I’ve been wanting to try the accubond lr 150’s with reloader 17 and ram shot big game but have not been able to find the powder (reasonably priced)
Use staball 6.5
Thanks
Did you get to 49.5 grains of powder yet? It seems your velocities are on par with most powders listed on the Hodgdon site. The highest speed I saw with a 150 was using Staball 6.5. What are the differences in numbers with this bullet at it's best accuracy/velocity, taking into account the BC compared to the 162 grain bullets you loaded at their higher velocity but lower BC?
With the ABLR being softer and designed to open easier and faster than the AB, I'd take that most accurate load you shot and be done with it unless you plan on trying different powders. I looked at the Nosler book and Reloder 19 also did well. For whatever reasons I've had quite a few cartridges get better velocities in a rifle I'm shooting with a powder listed that is slower in their manual. For example, you possibly could get better speed if you try Reloder 19.
@@Accuracy1st I’ll discuss through email
Are you shooting downhill?
Just curious. I see goall the time.
A little down hill, yes.
No experience with 7mm-08 or Ramshot powder but try something different first. Just curious if you're able to magazine feed with the ABLR? They look like a long OAL.
@@warrenpolidori5541 I’m using long action magazines and a long action bolt stop. Feeds perfectly and easily.
@hopefulballistics Ah, yes now I do recall you made that change. Good call!
A 5 s.d. is awesome, anything under 20 is good to go. Powder charge is perfect, work on seating depth for accuracy now. Reference erick cortina for this. - RED
@@REDs_Reapers thanks
See that all the time.
Nope I think you should scrap it all ! send me the load data and the rifle and I will dispose of them for you .... sarcasm ! I think it is looking very promising check it some more but check again in the temperature you will hunt in and the elevation also.. hunting weather is when you'll need to test it . hopefully I am making sense
Definitely makes sense
A 200 yds you wouldn't even be on paper so that is not a good grouping
Wouldn’t be on paper, what are you talking about?
@@hopefulballistics nvm I was looking at the small target but if you were shooting at the middle at 200 you would hit it
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I dont see why you utubers are so obsessed with velocity your groups got bigger the faster you pushed them..the 7mm08 is a 300 yd gun for game hunting.you should be able to get point blank 300 yd zero with your first load so save your barrel a little wear and go hunting.Unless your one of these u.tube long bomb at game clowns then your vids will get the three dots from me
Simply put I enjoy it and it’s what I want to do. The point is showing what the 7mm-08 is capable of.
@@hopefulballistics I get what your saying it is fun.The only advise I would give you is right it all down as you do it.Life happens and you get into other things and you wind up with a bunch of boxes of bullets with 5 to ten used out of it and you'll be wondering now where the hell did I get these trust me on this one
Happy??? You hav an Tika.....maximum .5 inc gruop.... you ned to work now......
Yep I’m happy
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@@cw2a thanks for watching and commenting
Truly hope you enjoy that rifle.
BUT- I am sure as heck not seeing that "legendary" Tikka accuracy the Tikka fanbois rave about online..My 308 Ruger Anerican shoots that well. So did the Savages you have shot in this channel...
@@JamesClark-lw6sw well it is brand new, we will see if it breaks in.