How the churches are disappearing in Catholic villages in the Netherlands
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- Experts predict that many churches in the Netherlands have to close in the coming years. The church in the village of Kilder, a small village in the east of the Netherlands, has been for sale for almost two years. The future of the parish and its parishioners is still uncertain. How do the villagers of Kilder feel about this? The Dutch Catholic weekly Katholiek Nieuwsblad visited a yearly feast of the ceremonial shooting club in Kilder to take a closer look.
Let's pray for the Church in the Netherlands. Dutch missionaries had brought Catholicism to my country.
What a sad situation. I hope the parishioners can save their beloved Church
While 100s of new churches are built in India everyday, My story begins like this, I see the Lord's hand from the time of my conception in my life, My Mom wanted to abort me, I was saved due to the efforts of a Doctor who is a Catholic Nun, All my childhood memories are flooded with how I searched for God, I was very much involved in all religious activities but I still did not have the real peace in his heart. I often wondered, “After all these religious ceremonies which I am performing every day, am I in right relationship with God? Is he drawing closer to me? My earliest encounter with Christ was big image of the Sacred Heart, I always felt called by Him, During classes and even at break I used to look at Him, the day His eyes met mine, He never left me, I still was a stauch Hindu, I wanted to overcome my karma by performing devotional rituals, but fear of death and reincarnation had overcome me, the words of Christ to Martha has set me free " I am the Resurrection", I followed Jesus right from I was 11, I was hated by my family and relatives for my faith in Him, but the Lord was gracious enough to take me into His fold when I was 16, I was baptized along with my Mom and maternal Grandmother into the Church. Jesus my Savior, my King my all in all changed my life, there is no meaning to life without Him.
chutye, fake story mat bata.
Pax et bonum!!! Greetings from Brazil!
@ABHISHEK RAJU okay ricebag, I know that Indian Christians only convert for money, not devotion.
Yesu Yesu mera susu susu😂
Jesus my Savior, my King my all in all changed my life, there is no meaning to life without Him.! it is same to me.
"I was very much involved in all religious activities but I still did not have the real peace in his heart. I often wondered," it is correct for me also
amen. jesus is the lord. im a fellow catholic from SRI LANKA...
As an Orthodox Christian from Brazil I'm very sad with the symptoms of the moral decadence of the West. In one century probably 50% of the population will be atheist, 40%Islam and 10%Catholics. Very sad. Stay strong brothers
Symptomps? It is happening now. Not a symptomps anymore.
You think the church wasn't decadent? Everyone regardless of ideology looks at the past with rose colored glasses.
이것은 실제로 좋은 일일 수 있으며 교회에 대한 경각심을 불러일으키는 신호입니다.
Pius XII liturgical mutilations and Vatican 2 are among the reasons for our decline.
Trist! Foarte trist !😢
As Indonesian Catholic, i want to say Thank You for Dutch Missionaris who come to Indonesia, and make several Province in our country is Catholic.
@@A.Baskoro-pl7zx Itu lah yang namanya Dinamika Kehidupan Mas ... Ini semua karena yang namanya Sekulerisme.
@@A.Baskoro-pl7zx Bahkan sekarang di Belanda. Eustanasia di izinkan untuk anak umur dari 1 - 12 Tahun. Seperti kehidupan itu tak ada artinya.
@@oriole3032 Ngomong apa kau ?
@@oriole3032 Hati Hati kalau kau nak cakap. Apalagi sudah berkaitan dengan "Disaster" yah. Disaster itu tidak memandang Golongan Agama dan RAS.
@@milky7588 that’s also true but from what we heard its easy to be a murtad there even though its an Islamic country with the most muslims in the world.
I think the saddest part of this is that the people who were going to Mass won't go to another village. I don't know the logistics/practical situation in this particular village, perhaps the next closest parish is far away.
But if the next village has Mass, (or let's assume it is otherwise very easy to go to Mass elsewhere if one desired) and these people won't go, it means that they don't actually believe anything that the Church teaches, or in the true presence. It seems more like a civic pride thing than actually believing. They're just going through the motions on Sunday - which is probably why younger generations don't want anything to do with Church. The older generation doesn't actually believe, why would the younger generation?
I almost can't blame them - many modern liturgies are horrible. They focus too much on the congregation and too little on God. We hand out the Holy Eucharist, which we believe is the body and blood of Jesus Christ, like it is Halloween Candy. The lines for confession are short, but lines for Communion are long. No wonder people don't take their faith seriously.
Blaming the liturgy is way too simplifying (although I do like the latin mass myself better too). Cardinal Eijk quoted an author from the 1940s in lifesitenews that going to church and being catholic was more of an identity and community thing in a largely protestant country where catholics were discriminated against. People didn't really feel a deep bond to the beliefs of the church. So when the demonic wave of secularism swept the west starting from the sixties, the rootless faith of the people fell apart.
Makes me really think, maybe the vast majority of churchgoers in the past centuries weren't true believers either? Who knows.
@@VillePelkonen-dg6wxthis is part of why I've been conflicted between staying Catholic or becoming Orthodox. The Orthodox liturgy is unchanged and the believers of the Eastern Orthodox faith seem to take their faith much more seriously. I'm still unsure though.
@TruLuan I hear what you are saying because I've had the same temptation. But it's a VERY bad idea just because the orthodox outer appearance looks nice. Here's why:
First of all Vatican II in Lumen Gentium in paragraph 14 teaches that those who know the catholic church to be established by Christ and do not wish to join it or remain in it cannot be saved.
Also, disloyalty and lukewarmness of the church's members is not a new thing. Imagine if you jumped into the protestants side during the deformation. Althoigh your local clergy and congregation might be corrupt, do you imagine saving your soul by that?
Or imagine a prophet of the old testament starting to leaving the people of Israel because of witnessing the religious and moral corruption of them. Leaving the boat in a time of crisis is NOT the solution.
Abandoning the boat in a time of crisis has never saved ANYONE. Just staying loyal even if you have to do it alone has. It has even produced saints like st. Benedict. St. Padre Pio who wasn't happy with the new liturgy said to a nun who was thinking to leave her order for the same reason "They are wrong and you are right, but you must obey".
If you can though, maybe look into another parish (because there can be great differences between them) or even seeking out the latin mass in an FSSP parish for now?
@@VillePelkonen-dg6wxWell said thank you. However, technically speaking, the Catholic Church also says to be saved one needs to live by the apostles Creed, have your sacraments, and receive the Eucharist. The Catholic church even acknowledges that the sacraments and the worship by the Orthodox are valid. And the Orthodox also have a lineage that goes back to Christ as well. I think that paragraph from lumen gentium is referring to someone who switches to protestantism or another religion like Muslim or Buddhism. I could be wrong though.
My understanding on the Vatican II document on ecumenism is that despite it acknowledges the apostolic roots of the orthodox church, they are still without full communion with the mystical body of Christ the church, hence they are called "separated brethren". Therefore, to put yourself from the church headed by the legitimate successor of st. Peter to a community with less communion doesn't seem like a step towards God. To be less in communion with the Mystical Body, is to be less in communion with Christ.
It is indeed very sad to know that religion is disappearing from the Western countries. These countries are really in the grip of devil.
Maybe build a mosque
@@binyamina8850 According to my understanding I think that religion is gone forever from the Western countries & now the whole world wants to be westernised which is spiritually dangerous for those countries where religion is still alive.
@@michaelshylock8269 yep
@Metal 1974 You should try to suppress your ego. Your ego is blocking you from seeing the wholeness of truth in spirituality.
No need to feel sad. If you know what kind of hell the 30-year Religious War, burnings of heretics, and witch hunts can be, then you will count your blessings to live the in the Age of Reason when Europeans are a lot more reasonable. Just look at what the Irish had to endure in their Catholic theocracy in all but name in recent memory and you will feel a lot happier to embrace life with people of reason.
Europe is sick because it has forgotten Christ, and the USA is not far behind...
Lol
That sickness brought us more prosperity, health and less crime.
Awful times.
@Comment Warrior the Jesus Christ follower. ☦️ ✝️
I mean, they're 7th in HDI.
The US is 17th.
With very few exceptions the US rarely breaks top 20 on most things that matter to me.
Quality of life and all that.
I mean, the US is the only one in the top 20 with a life expectancy lower than 80.
@Comment Warrior the Jesus Christ follower. ☦️ ✝️
Ah, you're not aware how it works is Sweden.
Let's begin simple.
1 person rapes 5 women, each 5 times.
How many rape cases is that?
1? 5? 25?
In Sweden it would be 25. Each case of rape is seen as a count towards rape.
Abused wife raped every day for a year is 365 cases of rape.
In most other countries this is not the case.
Not only that but if you know more than one language you would know that direct translations are often not possible or not an exact fit.
For example, is using a dildo to penetrate a woman against her will rape?
In the UK this wouldn't be the case, it literally requires a vagina and penis over there for it to count as rape.
A woman can not rape a man in the UK penal code because she doesn't have a penis. Equivelant punishment is of course a thing, it will just be registered under "sexual assault" or something similar.
The above issues don't only apply to rape but to every form of crime when compared between countries.
The Rape and Sweden is just a big outlier on this.
But things like "breakins", "assault", etc. can easily be defined very differently from country to country.
Is yelling at somebody assault? Might be defined like that in some countries.
Some will divide up assault in many different words, depending on level of the crime.
Stats are all well and good but when Sweden has 1/20 as many people in jail and 5 times the homicide rate, which puts the US on par with Kenya it makes your claim seem rather silly.
@Comment Warrior the Jesus Christ follower. ☦️ ✝️
Again, check your sources.
Trustpilot has it rated at 83% bad.
Wikipedia has this to say,
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It's basically "the sun" of Germany.
And again, you're 5 times more likely to get killed in the US.
That's a stat that's relatively consistent between nations as well because, you know, murder. little chance of it being seen differently in different countries.
I will pray for you every day. You cannot lose your church. Our lady Will protect you.
Lets build a mosque
We are church, not the building...they can do simple gathering or else.
@@binyamina8850 fuck off
Has your prayer been answered?
@@binyamina8850 Alla is gay and Mohamed is his bitch
Irony
Hundread years ago, missionary from Dutch bring Catholic faith to Indonesia. Nowdays, even we are minority in this country our community is stronger and loyal to the Church in the other hand Europe is falling.
They will make the church full again when covid-19 never ends
Thats true broo the whole christian population itself in netherlands has fallen to 5 million whereas in Indonesia the Christian population has risen than 32 million , so Indonesia has 6x more christian population than the netherlands itself
Because they are too smart that they don't care about religion anymore
@filiPines province of China ✝
Its a trend now that the people from poor country bcoming Christians and the intelectual people from the West embracing Islam.
It's NOT a proud thing to be an atheist... Leaving Christianity is equal to wilting Dutch culture.... Revivalism of Christianity is same as revival of Dutch culture!
Sorry, dutch culture is paganism
@@choerry-mh8xt was paganism.... Not now....
Dutch culture has nothing to do with Christianity. They aren't Christian.
Greetings one god, greetings 25 messengers and greetings 124000 prophets.
@@choerry-mh8xt was paganism*
I can not believe the people would not go to another church to worship God. Doesn't look Like they were going to church for the right reasons to begin with.
I think you're right. Sounds as though most of them have a sentimental attachment to the church in town. But we should be willing to drive many miles to get to Mass, even if it's in a bland auditorium.
BUT...worship is a heart attitude & isn't only about being in a church building. In fact..the Lord said:'you draw near with your mouth but your heart is far from Me'.
Maybe people are weary of religiosity..traditions of men. Maybe we need to look at who Christ really is..get into the Word of God for ourselves..like: John 1-3, Colossians 1:14-18 , 1 Peter 2, Revelation 1 and Romans!
@@yvonnerahui8729 what this video shows is that the people where not going to church to worship God. There were going as a community event. Who would not be willing to drive 30 miles to worship God?
beware ! the closing of churches, the lof faith and belief in Almighty God,the cold and careless state of the clergy, brings ro mind the prophetic words of Our Lord Jesus Chrisr:’And will not God vindicate His elect, who cry to Him day and night? ………..and neverthe less, when the Son of man comes, will He find. faith on earth?’ Luke 18.8 He warned us , and He is watching…….Pray and repent , and return to your fine lovely Church.
Extremely sad to hear. Vatican II watered down everything in the church and the Netherlands is a prime example. With supposedly only 4% now attending weekly Mass in the Netherlands, the majority of young people have been brought up to believe absolutely nothing, except instant gratification. My maternal side was originally from Roermond and until the 70's everyone there in our extended family went to Mass each week. Equally, we looked forward to joining our friends, neighbours, and countrymen in meeting our beliefs, and obligations. We were a stronger country, and society, because of it.
Do you seriously think young people would be attracted to the Tridentine Mass, which is recited in a language people do not understand, and portions of which are in "low tones" (e.g. the Canon, including the Consecration) which are not audible to congregation? Another thing to keep in mind is that the Netherlands has been largely a Protestant country for several centuries now.
Google Sedevacantist+ Resistance-SSPX chapels. Contact Bishop Markus Ramolla,he has traditional Catholic Priests in Europe validily Ordained in the traditional Rite.
I returned to the church as a young man and I was attracted to the Tridentine Mass. My whole life is touched by my connection to the traditional faith now. It only took a few months for me to understand the latin of the most important parts of the Mass, and for the rest of the Mass I have a missal with Latin and English. I pray all through the day and spend lots of time on spiritual reading every single day. I wish there was a TLM every day near me, and if there was I would be there every day. I do go to the NO on weekdays but I can't stand how the priest puts his mask on at different times and uses hand sanitizer during the consecration, it is very cringe and distracting to see him do that. I also find the female servers and Female Extraordinary Ministers distracting at the local NO. The most Blessed Sacrament which is the body of Our Lord should only be touched by priests with exception only for actual extraordinary circumstances. Wanting Mass to be over a few minutes sooner is not an extraordinary circumstance, it would be better for the congregation who have received or are waiting to receive to be still and pray during that time.
In response to your question, I can say that from my experience as well as other young men at my parish it is certain that some young men are attracted to the Tridentine Mass. I hope that one of the TLM Societies will purchase this old Church and bring the true faith back to this community.@@JohnParks-zc1pn
@@JohnParks-zc1pnyes
I don't mean to be rude & actually went with my Nana to Catholic services when young.
I don't blame young ones not knowing the Father through Jesus Christ..we have only shown them hypocrisy & traditions of men..and like Jesus said to the Pharisees. They were like whited sepulchers but full of dead men's bones.
Catholicism is such a lie and full of ugly ugly secrets..what they did to young girls who went off to be a sacrifice more or less for their families. Horrific what's been in their dungeons. So it's founded on corruption..like some others too.
There's only ONE way to the Father & that's through Christ who is 'the way, the TRUTH & the LIFE'. John 14:6.
Time is short before the Tribulation of Revelation..are you prepared? Jesus is the Ark of our Salvation! It's only by faith in Christ & His shed blood that we can be forgiven & cleansed!
😢 so sad. As a believer I hope the people of the village still stand strong for their faith. Please don't fall into the world of deception created by evil. Sending prayers for the young people there 🙏
I am Dutch and basically the south is Catholic the south borders belguim and some German states which is Catholic and the north is Protestant
And 'the Bible Belt' in the middle of the country, which still is traditional protestant.
Jesus my Savior, my King my all in all changed my life, there is no meaning to life without Him.
unga bunga
Indeed. If you hear His voice and SEE Him, you are not of this world, but one of the elect. Holy, Holy, Holy.
HELLO LOO YEAH
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Here in Belgium I search the Latin Mass............and what a difference, filled with large
young families and young ppl.
It is out and out only praising God;
no guitar playing, applauding and shaking of hands (do after Mass)
You receive Holy Communion on the tongue only by the priest, while kneeling.
Only boys are altar servers...........the ultimate true traditional Mass
that this pope (and we have to pray for him) is trying to stop.....;; Why?
You luke warm catholics come back and fight ; we are born for combat and to evangelise.
As Donald Trump said "our priests and bishops have failed us by staying in the confines and not going out to save souls"..........to keep us in a state of grace.
What culture is entering the seminaries and coming out of the seminaries?
THE LATIN MASS makes all the difference to help to be truly Catholic
In fact, archbishop Eijk has the controversial policy to close churches even where parishioners offer to keep the church open...
Parishoioners need to obey their Cardinal, that is also Catholic. It is for the cardinal to decide!
Contact Bishop Markus Ramolla,he has validily Ordained traditional Catholic Priests in Europa. Saint Bernard helped depose anti-Pope Anacletus. The law of obedience is relaxed when the law become evil.
딜레마:
너무 많은 자유 - 분열과 진아친 자유해석
너무 많은 강요된 순종 - 그들은
단지 머물지 않고 교회는 시들어 버립니다.
Then, the Archbishop is only seeing money, & is not concerned with the spiritual needs of people who live in small towns.
Sick Europe :(
The subtitles should have been in a darker color.
I am not a catholic but this one is sad.......
But how it's possible? If this church has full audience during mass... Why the archdiocese is going to close this temple? How awful.
Probably because of a lack of priests. Consolidation of small parishes into larger churches in the cities is quite common here sadly. Many villages often share one priest
@@Bellg Are you from Holland?
@@akshayachu3964 Technically no, but much of my family is from there and I live in a walking distance from the border between the netherlands and the country in which I live, Belgium. why do you ask?
@@Bellg your first comment. It seems like you know much about Netherlands.
Are you a Catholic? May I know that?
@@akshayachu3964 The situation in the Netherlands is the same as in Belgium, perhaps even a little worse since it's actually a mostly protestant nation (although now most people are not christian anymore).
I myself am not Roman-Catholic, I am looking to become an Eastern Orthodox Christian, moslty because the Catholic church in my country just isn't very good anymore.
Unfortunate, but Not surprised; since 1900 Dutch Catholics have declined from 33% to 12% of the population, but Protestants have done far worse, declining from 60% to 10%. The once-powerful Dutch Reformed/Calvinist Church is moribund.
We need a revival of the Catholic-Protestant-Orthodox faith.
We neeed it ur right
Like we need a bullet in our head.
Protestantism caused this. Heck no. It needs to die off for good, Catholicism must get rid of modernism and Orthodox need to return with Catholicism.
No
@@christiankhoury9343 Why not Protestant? (I'm Eastern Orthodoxy by the way.)
Religion has caused problems. Yes. Atheism has caused problems. Yes. Only Jesus can save us, precisely because our religions and good works will never be enough. Hope this helps someone. ✝❤🙏
People forget that the Netherlands of all countries was the absolutely most enthusiastic in diving head first into the changes of Vatican II and implemented them to a degree that was much more severe than the documents intended not to mention the notoriously watered down Dutch Catechism that was enforce there for decades.
I know what’s next: 😢Islam. I’m so sorry for Europe. 😢 It’s heartbreaking 💔 to see how that young man says, “I don’t care”. How selfish!
Islam sucks but so does Christianity
세속주의는 승리하지 못할 것이다. 미래에는 역시적 기독교가 부활하든가, 안이면 아리우스적 ‘기독교‘가
승리할 것입니다.
He doesn't know, these boys are kind of simple
Receiving Holy Communion "tongue only" is more Holy. It feels spiritual, Come Holy Spirit! Save churches!!!!
Het gaat niet om een kerk, maar de vraag is of je gelooft in het werk van Jezus. Dat hij je zonden vergeeft en je een kind van de Vader mag zijn. En helaas wordt dat in Nederland steeds minder. 😢
Zonder de Kerk was het geloof allang weg... je hebt je gemeenschap nodig.
Het gaat zeker ook om de Kerk, Jezus kwam hier om een Kerk te stichten en hij wil dat wij allemaal samen één Kerk zijn.
Ik zal bidden voor het Vaderland! Dat we allemaal weer terugkeren naar Ons Lieve Heer 🙏
A lot of people don't attend any more because they are finally fed up with the watered down religion that Vatican II had brought about.
Is it a problem of Vatican 2 or a bigger problem of Modern Western Theological Thought? The Protestant Churches of Western Europe are also imploding. Western Christianity Protestant/Roman Catholic has made a wrong turn and soon both the institutional structures of Roman Catholicism and Protestism will be destroyed in the next generation.
Sorry to read about this .
I was born again in the 70s , I've never doubted the reality of CHRIST JESUS ever since .
My country SOUTH AFRICA is blest with faithful leadership in the church. Always fasting and praying.
In the end it's upto me , to read and believe the BIBLE.
Pietermartzburg kzn South Africa ❤🕊🇿🇦
They should ask why the mosques are full to overflowing. Don't sell out to modernity, stay firm, stay faithful.
You don’t know what you have until it’s gone.
There was a point in the 60s and 70s that the USA, with the exception of Poland, was the West's most religious country. In many ways it still is. but we seem to be going the way of the Netherlands in particular and the Benelux countries in general. Canada has bottomed out completely. One common element is the fact that religion and God seem to be be simply irrelevant. Neither seem to have either meaning or importance in the lives of many. The Benelux countries, who sent many absolutely dedicated missionaries throughout the world, like the amazing St. Joseph Damien de Veuster of Molokai'i, seemed to simply collapse under the pressure and shock of the loss of faith among their countrywo/men, and they simply gave up. The same in Canada. They simply were at a loss on how to open the doors of faith in an increasingly secularized world. In all fairness to the clergy, worldwide we are all bewildered by the phenomenon and are at a loss to know what to do. In the USA and in Canada, we are seeing sinister results which should call us to consider the reasons for these black holes that are appearing in our socio-cultural reality - socio-culturally generated black holes that are crushing lives into nothingness and meaninglessness with their seemingly infinite, destructive gravitational pull, or at best we are all caught in the the inescapable event horizons of these black holes, mindlessly, listlessly and endlessly orbiting this gravitational nothingness. We may look like normal human beings, but we're not. We've been turned into two dimensional caricatures of human persons. Worse yet, we are the hapless victims that have been reduced to aberrant, pathetically deformed zombies to be force stuffed into the one dimension of the binary, one-zero world, of computers, celluar phones and tablets.
I found the church close to the Haterseweg (Nijmegen) was full with devoted Catholics in mid sixties. But it was last century. I am wondering what happen with the church now? I can't revisit it due to my age.
Tuhan Yesus Memberkati umat katolik di Belanda. Amin
Salam dari Indonesia...
And yet the soul still requires Sacramental Grace and we all die. The elderly at that Novus Ordo Church are the only ones who remember the Catholic Faith prior to Vatican II. Return to the Faith of your fathers. The Vatican II Conciliar Church is the death of Catholic life and practice.
Holland had some great saints. Henri Nouwen was also a man of God from Holland. The Dutch did impose communion in the hand and their catechism which watered the faith
St.Lydwine of Scheidham is another great catholic Nederland Saint Neil.
Greetings from New France brother.
@@Thomas-lg6jx Titus Brandsma (1881-1942), as well, Thomas.
@@costernocht Not to sound disrespectful to St.Titus .....as he suffered aplenty.
But did he willingly have his body supernaturally actually split into 3 distinct parts that any doctor would say how does this person be able to still exist without dying.
It could be a punishment for the horrible communion in the hand and the rejection of the Traditional Catholic and Apostolic (holy Tridentine) Mass.
We will pray for you.
It is very sad that people there don’t identify as Catholic Christians first and residents of Kilder second. As Catholics we are members of the family of God. They are willingly closing off avenues of grace by refusing the go to Mass anywhere else. The celebration of the Holy Eucharist is what Mass is about, it is where our Lord lives. It is like saying I don’t want to go to heaven, I want to stay in Kilder…🤷🏼♂️. Very sad.
If the changes to the Mass had not been made in the 1960s and 70s, you would not have this decline in Catholicism throughout the West. The New Mass lacks the reverence the Traditional Mass has and, as a result, devotion and love for the Catholic Faith has slowly disappeared over the decades. If Catholics want their religion to grow, they need to return to Tradition.
Maybe they can give the church to the FSSP, if there are no Tridentine masses in the nearby area.
There is one coming to Lobith next year, close by. I'm going to attend that. But these people see the Church only as a community house and don't bother going to the next village...
Joseph van Haren .
If you could read the Nicene Creed in the Traditional Mass , that,s how believing , practicing Catholics profess their faith . How very sad that the faith in the Netherlands has so declined ,since the 1950,sand 60,s , and I suppose we can't blame the young generation , but the hierarchy of the Catholic Church who with their heretical and modernist ideas turned their back on Sacred Tradition and changed theTraditional Latin Mass and recommended the Church to conform to the world and caused many priest and religious to leave'.
Catholicism dissappeared from Netherlands long before Vatican II, when calvinists under Wilhelm of Orange and the other corrupt calvinist nobles took power and created the dutch republic. Also, not like Netherlands was as devoted as other parts of Europe, why do people think Calvinism was so easily accepted and almost no opposition to it raised? Dutch, if ever catholic, were clearly tepid and lukewarm catholics, reason why they later adopted an easier religion and now are atheists.
Simply not true. catholicism may have lost its place in the government but to say that all of the Netherlands "lost" catholicism since Willem of Orange is just not true at all. The South of the country was STAUNCHLY catholic until the modernists took over (just like any other place in the west). My grandmother and all her family lived traditional catholic lives. went to a catholic school organized by nuns, went to mass (the traditional mass that is) every sunday and often daily and lived a fully sacramental life within the church. so don't talk bad about all of the Netherlands. thank you.
@@Bellgkeep the faith hugs.
St.Lydwine of Scheidham pray for catholic Nederlands.
I was born in the Netherlands, 10 days before the WW2 started, in the province of Limburg to say that Catholics were lukewarm in the 1940- 1960 is far from the true’s. We often went to daily Mass before school, prayed as a family before meals and every night we prayed the Rosary. My parents took their faith very seriously. I had from grade 2 a very personal and strong relationship with Jesus, I am now 83 and without my saviour and Lord along with the Father and the Holy Spirit I would be lost. I put my trust in in Him, He is always been there during 42 years of nursing and all the years of our family’s good and bad times. I know he was there when my husband passed 27 years ago. I will always Love Him, He said “ My yoke is easy and my burden is light “.
@@annarenneberg9699 God bless you Anna for keeping the true faith Christ who is God gave us & poking that slimy heretic twit William of Orange in the eye.
@@BellgYes, but from testimonies of other Dutch Catholics I have been told that the faith was just mechanical for them. At the first sign if a challenge they just dropped the cross like it was nothing. It was truly tragic.
Church is NOT A BUILDING. AND STATUES. LORD WILL RAISE UP PEOPLE TO WORSHIP HIM IN TRUTH AND SPIRIT
You go to church to worship Jesus and fellowship with others. It's not a social club.....very sad.
Yes, it's a shame
All these young men without meaning, direction, hope... I have a mixture of remorse, sympathy and disdain for them. Poor Holland. But maybe the coming times will bring you back to GOD. May He bless that beautiful country.
If your Community really care about the church that's being sold then I have an answer for you. Buy it !!!! Get together with members of the local community get a few lawyers have a collection of money from the community and by the church. An any priests under that Bishop take them out....
They are losing their faith in GOD.Money and easy life makes you run away from GOD.When clamity takes over then only GODS help comes handy.
The young no longer have a moral compass .
This brings devastation to any society.
What has happened since? Did they get to keep their church? I can't find out on Google
It says on wikipedia they only do catechesis and pastoral care there
I Was Born in 1968, baptized by Dutch Priest...that the last generation of dutch priest in Indonesia..R.I.P father Holtus C.M
The Church needs to do some serious thinking & the thinking needs to be such that encourages creative means to permit small congregations to continue to function for ordinary worship (which should be extra-ordinary) & for local customs/traditions. Dutch communities need to interact with the Church Bishops, all the way to the Pope to open their eyes to these needs. Reaching out to the youth of your community is essential, if you are to have a congregation that is not almost exclusively elderly. That is what needs to be done, without going the dreadful route of becoming "Christian Nationalists." Your community may be small, but your needs are valid. Dutch Catholics are a valid & important part of the cultural & spiritual landscape, if you want it. It will take work. There will be no shortcuts.
What happened to the church?
Forgive them Lord, for they know not what they do. Remove the scales from their eyes and reveal your glory to them again, as in days of old. They have lost their way.
In Jesus' name, Amen
Why not turn them into something usefull.............. like public toilets.
I cannot speak for the Netherlands, but speaking for where I live, it’s not that people don’t want all these commitments anymore. It’s that the Church isn’t asking for more commitment from us any way. Prayers for the Netherlands! 🇳🇱 ❤️
I don't understand why not go to a different village to go to church what's the problem? It's not about the villages about God
I feel like it's more a cultural identity for them
Indeed. Here also in my place catholic is declining because of poor/lack knowledge and faith. Others are Go to other sectors because they feel they are important there. 😢😢
Shame my heart goes out to those elderly people who was deceived in believing that they have to Repent to a Priest instead of to God Almighty and Jesus Christ Alone. John 3:3,John 14:16-17.
What happened to this church finally? Is it sold?
Yes, They did
@@HB-ej6iq pity!! Thank you!!!
Jesus Christ Mary mother Joseph foster father pray for us
Nothing fails more miserably than prayers
@@karllarsen8797 I don't care if you talk crap to me, but respect others. you are only here because you feel insecure about your disbelief and want to draw attention.
Dios es amor, proveerá
I'd like to see them under Islam, their attitude" it is not import to me" is leading Europe to it.
Very Very sad
This is heartbreaking.
I here in America there joining them up into one massive layout why I do not understand.😢❤
As a Muslim
I feel really bad because I love christianity and Christian people ❤
We believe in the same God!
Garbage, your false god is unitarian, God (in who we believe) is Trinitarian. Not the same at all. Plus, you shouldn't feel bad, your religion will soon become the majority in the Netherlands and that should make you and all of your fellow muslims happy.
No we don’t
@@matthewelesterio6869 then you have absolutely no knowledge about your own religion
Read some books
@@generallouay2234 Well first of all we believe the trinity and we believe Jesus is God. Therefore we do not believe in the same God. Our God’s name is Yahweh whereas your God’s name is Allah
@@matthewelesterio6869 this is probably the information you got from your father or a Bible from your local church
Which are 95% of the time fabricated and edited based on what people prefer
Read an orginal copy of the Bible and you'll find out that this whole trinity thing is a lie and never mentioned in the Bible
Also Jesus have never said he was God himself
Fewer and fewer people accept religious traditions that have no reality and don't make a difference in one's personal life. God has left His WORD which is infallible and it's not the Vatican. Salvation is in the Jesus Christ of the Bible and in Him alone not by good works, sacraments and the saints. I was baptized a RC but only became a child of God at the age of 22.
The Catholic Church is irrelevant in Europe. Christianity had a good run. The populace received the blessings that came with Christianity, while Africa, Asia and other continents muddled along. The people grew less reverent, more secular, and now it's a post-Christian continent. Time will tell how this will work out.
Catholic Dutch Church sould always Unity one God so many church around world as Christians Church.
Vatican II at it's best.
This is before Vatican II. Calvinism and Capitalism finished off what little of Catholic was in the Netherlands.
Netherlands was majority protestant you doofus lmao
In fact Protestantism has declined so much that Catholicism is now bigger than all protestant churches combined
Most that go are now elderly, doing what they've done their whole life. More and more of the younger generations are turning away from them
They lost their faith in God, because they gave up waiting for him to do something about abortion. The good news is that God has begun to do something about abortion. Christians just don't know about it yet.
Enlighten us...
Europe once took the gospel to the world. Now they are discarding their faith. Its not a surprise though. Read the Bible.
People need to read the bible themselves and follow JESUS and not the Roman Catholic cult.
Weren't the Dutch that inventend a new catechism, giving up traditional morals and doctrine?
The Pope even published a new catechism in part to reafirm what was always the doctrine and morals of the Church after what the Dutch high clergy did.
1:01 21 leden zijn te zien, zonder die Celebranten, en van dien 21 leden hebben 12 witte of grauwe hare of een plek zonder hare.
Church is the place where the most beautiful qualities of God is worshipped, please expand the area of church and enjoy playing, singing, dancing, yoga,meditation, laughing and also praying. The Qualities that God loves when enjoyed by its followers, the Church will be more respective for everyone....... Amen.....
Is ANYONE surprised? We're losing these grotesque corporations in favor of sanity.
The Dutch are a people after God's own heart.
Interesting their more concernéd about losing a building than losing their relationship with God .
Can Catholic enter HEAVEN?
But overall the Nederlands is majority a Catholic country
Nowadays people are fed up religion but coming towards Dharam which have no boundness of anything you can be atheist and question ur faith God and everything even u can make ur own God also tapasya sadhna purity of soul there are no boundaries in Sanatan dharam u can question everything u can be gay lesbian transgender anything n believe me u will have no pressure from religion or religious praction of Sanatan scriptures that u r curse or it's against religion or anything thing , also Sanatan traditions are favour vegans there is no killing of any living being Hinsa or violence has no place that why Sanatan sees God in sun moon Earth trees river animals mountain as a form of God and do respect everything like their own God proud to be sanatani Hindu love respect care no harms to believer or disbelver athiest agnostic but only support to every creature
Jullie hebben geen kerk meer maar hebben er een dorpshuis van gemaakt.
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Not at all Indonesia was muslim before to be colony of Netherlands.
It's best to hear the voice of the Lord yourself by quietly reading the Holy Bible and meditating.
Ask the Lord to help you understand what you are reading about. (Not like the Ethiopian eunuch, Acts 8:26).
Acts 5:29 We ought to obey God rather than men.
Acts 11:18 Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life.
Romans 10:13 For whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
(Look up the following verses).
Luke 13:1-5
Luke 5:32
Proverbs 28:13
Acts 11:18
The Church is the living body of those who are "Born Again". The Book of Ephesians tells us that.
Do shy away from the doctrines of Catholicism. When you are born again, you will know. Thank you.
Sex scandals did not help
You need good bishops ..to guide the people
"people are stupid, they need to be guided"
-you
@@γιουργια Did I mention "stupid"???
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Lord i ask you to please let help me mske msny friends during introduction week or introductie week in hbo snd like 5 to 8nfriends would be good IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT AMEN
Please prayer my family Health Mother name padma
You need to make the intellectual effort to use the basic functions on a scientific calculator. Have you? You need to study the positions of the cities on the world map. Did you? You need to realise the statistics on it are 'scri[pture. Do you?
You should donate to the orthodox church because they keep the traditions.....
The Roman Catholic Church never abandoned tradition but the people there have because of lack of formation and lack of will to go to Mass. Just like during Soviet times the orthodox people abandoned their faith while the orthodox church never changed during that time. Selling the church to orthodox schismatics isn't the answer because the church will still be empty.
@@G1CAAAAEO I must agree
@@G1CAAAAEO Orthodox is just a bunch of sedevecantist
@@crowbirdryuell Says the schismatic...
원래 계약에서 실제로 내용을 변경한 사람은 누구입니까? 게임이 시작된 후 규칙을 바꾸는 것과 같습니다.
Your god's will, remember?
Maybe the older churches should be repurposed as museums or historical landmarks
†
Saya bangga sekarang banyak orang belanda telah sadar bahwa menyembah manusia itu salah !
Yes Christians worship a man.
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Who is god?
Jesus
Is Jesus the son of Mary?
Yes
Who created Mary?
God.
Who is God?
Jesus
Jesus was a born child.
Yes
Who is his father?
God.
Who is God?
Jesus.
Jesus is a servant of God?
Yes
Who is God?
Jesus.
Jesus died on the cross?
Yes
Who raised it?
God.
Who is God?
Jesus
Jesus is the messenger?
Yes
Who sent it?
God.
Who is God?
Jesus.
Did Jesus worship while on earth? Yes
Who does he worship?
God.
Who is God?
Jesus.
Does God have a beginning?
No ....
Then who was born on 25 DEC? Jesus.
Who is God?
Jesus.
Where is God?
In heaven
How much is there in heaven? There is only one God.
Where is Jesus?
He sat to his father's right.
Who is God?
Jesus.
So how many of them are in heaven?
There is only one God
Then how many seats?
One
Where is Jesus?
Sit next to God.
Then how do they sit?
In one chair
This is only understood by those who have a holy spirit.
Who is God?
Jesus.
Think and act ..
Your right