Japanese Music Notation (shakuhachi music)

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  • @danielthrasher
    @danielthrasher 5 років тому +848

    My man's gotta hit 'em with the lick within the first 5 seconds of a video

    • @georgerussell2947
      @georgerussell2947 5 років тому +17

      L I C C

    • @CptCascadia
      @CptCascadia 3 роки тому +2

      hey daniel

    • @metaZen
      @metaZen 3 роки тому +11

      if I ever see him in public I will instinctively sing out " ba da bam ba dam ba daa"

    • @chicken_punk_pie
      @chicken_punk_pie 3 роки тому +1

      @@metaZen I say it "bum ba dum ba dum ba dum"

  • @OscarGeronimo
    @OscarGeronimo 5 років тому +3387

    "It takes a lifetime to learn the shakuhashi... so the earlier you start, the longer it takes."

    • @professorpancakes6545
      @professorpancakes6545 5 років тому +91

      That's a fantastic quote! Where's it from?

    • @Spaghettaboutit
      @Spaghettaboutit 5 років тому +64

      Oh Yeah 16:17 he says it ~

    • @professorpancakes6545
      @professorpancakes6545 5 років тому +37

      Spaghettaboutit thank you, I'm an idiot lol, must have zoned out at the end

    • @Joyweathertalks
      @Joyweathertalks 5 років тому +61

      That's such a good quote. It really is such a stoic/monkish thing to say haha

    • @bonniejunk
      @bonniejunk 5 років тому +1

      @@Spaghettaboutit
      16:22

  • @AlhassanGuitar
    @AlhassanGuitar 5 років тому +3793

    Lmao from Arabic this phrase is literally translated to licking the jazz

    • @MisterManDuck
      @MisterManDuck 5 років тому +344

      More like 'lick of the jazz', given the ordering of Arabic syntax/grammar/what have you.
      Or 'the lick of Jazz' rather. 'The' in Arabic doesn't have the strictest 1:1 to English.

    • @AlhassanGuitar
      @AlhassanGuitar 5 років тому +53

      @@MisterManDuck but لعق is a verb, no?

    • @kinocomix
      @kinocomix 5 років тому +72

      Depends on how you say it, it could mean both

    • @raulperez2308
      @raulperez2308 5 років тому +352

      oh yeah baby lick that jazz

    • @jordanmiles106
      @jordanmiles106 5 років тому +57

      Raúl Pérez lol this is such a derp ending to this convo

  • @hidehitosatoh
    @hidehitosatoh 5 років тому +766

    Thank you for always interesting topics.
    In Japan, shakuhachi is almost extinct.
    It may be reimported if it rises overseas.
    I am very happy!
    thank you so much.

    • @tokyotoad81
      @tokyotoad81 5 років тому +12

      Is it really so? Several years ago I went to a fabulous gig by a shakuhachi player (I don't remember his name though but he is Japanese) and jazz pianist Naoki Nishi in Asagaya Jazz Festival. In terms of other traditional instruments, I passed by a street gig by a trio of, shamisen, guitar, and double base in the same jazz festival in a few years later. Also a couple of years ago, jass pianist Dairo Suga did a concert in Mito employing a number of musicians each specializing in jazz and traditional Japanese instruments. I often go to rakugo performances and kabuki plays, where traditional music instruments are vital and yose/theatres are usually almost fully packed with audience enjoying both performance and music. When I joined an open mic event, amateur shakuhachi players played traditional tunes (, while I did storytelling in traditional format). Some of my friends play shamisen, biwa as well (while I shun string instruments as I have not recovered from my high school days trauma of failing to play F chord on folk guitar, but I dream of learning shamisen some time in future).Perhaps, shakuhashi and other traditional Japanese insturments may be almost extinct, just around you, I think....

    • @OfficialTigerino
      @OfficialTigerino 5 років тому +8

      tokyo toad again, “near extinct”

    • @Pancake020
      @Pancake020 5 років тому

      I wish that it was when I heard no rythem

    • @songfulmusicofsongs
      @songfulmusicofsongs 5 років тому +1

      I think you often hear it in anime. Perhaps it's a similar sounding instrument, I don't know...

    • @wannabikkit
      @wannabikkit 5 років тому +2

      @@gideonroos1188 Wagakki Band uses it, along with koto, shamisen, and western instruments.

  • @Sammie_Sorrelly
    @Sammie_Sorrelly 5 років тому +823

    Awesome video. Zac is a badass on that instrument, and it's surprisingly rare to see a video on something Japanese that doesn't fall victim to exoticism on some level - whereas this has a really nice sense of maturity in that regard, which I think comes with more genuine cultural receptiveness.

    • @Javo_Non
      @Javo_Non 5 років тому +3

      What kind of exoticism do you mean?

    • @Sammie_Sorrelly
      @Sammie_Sorrelly 5 років тому +150

      @@Javo_Non Obsessing over how weird and different things are and emphasising niche things that *are* weird and different to suggest that they are the norm. Constructing a certain limited perception of a "Japanese mindset" and applying it universally, like Japanese people collectively are hardworking to a fault, they're all sad and want to die, they all have an innate brilliance with aesthetics, they're all totally selfless and have no individuality or individual will, and using this to "explain" Japanese things (of course, not generally all those things at once but frequently one or more is implied).
      Obviously there are things which are different between Japan and the west, but a lot of western perception of Japan and its culture consists of poorly-understood kernels of truth extrapolated into clumsy stereotypes and used to make authoritative statements from a place of no real experience.

    • @matty9460
      @matty9460 5 років тому +92

      @@Javo_Non Basically it's nice to see someone interested in/explaining an element of Japanese culture without being a weeb

    • @10e999
      @10e999 5 років тому +7

      well put. I agree.

    • @ObsidianMirage
      @ObsidianMirage 5 років тому +2

      What if I told you, through a close family member who studied Japanese culture/language at a collegiate level and went there on many trips, that what you said in your explanation of exoticism is exactly what it's like over there?
      Exoticism by definition is characteristics of a country.

  • @Tantacrul
    @Tantacrul 5 років тому +67

    That sheet music so lovely and ornate looking, I just want to frame it and keep it nearby.

  • @evanwilliams8908
    @evanwilliams8908 5 років тому +2036

    These videos always make be feel simultaneously smarter and stupid.

    • @primordial.sounds
      @primordial.sounds 5 років тому +87

      They make me feel better informed but humbled by all that I have yet to learn.

    • @mademsoisellerhapsody1868
      @mademsoisellerhapsody1868 5 років тому +3

      same

    • @numnut1516
      @numnut1516 5 років тому +4

      That is called learning. It is a strange feeling. I’m still not used to it.

    • @wadecarefully
      @wadecarefully 5 років тому +4

      Zoli Marosan jeez dude tell us how you really feel

    • @wadecarefully
      @wadecarefully 5 років тому +10

      Zoli Marosan I disagree with that analysis. I thinks it’s just a certain sense of humor that you don’t like. I personally find the videos funny and informative. His videos aren’t FOR beginners. They’re not for people trying to learn an instrument, they’re for people who want to learn about abstract topics in music. They used to be about learning bass, but even he joked about them not really being good videos for that. the “how to not suck” videos might apply, but you have to willingly submit your music to him for him to judge it. But I’m sure I’m just a twat as well.

  • @lrowlands53
    @lrowlands53 Рік тому +14

    I play shakuhachi because it is grounding and focusing, like deep meditation. To say it is a blissful and exquisite way to be with music is an understatement. My mentor in Japanese music, Associate Professor Hugh de Ferranti aptly describes shakuhachi music as ‘painting with sound’. Thanks for the video Adam. Zac is a great ambassador for shakuhachi as well as being a fine player.

  • @AdamNeely
    @AdamNeely  5 років тому +275

    Thanks Zac for talking to me about Shakuhachi! This interview was about 2 hours long, and there was a lot I had to cut out, so there might be more Shakuhachi content out there in the future. Check out Zac's music, and stay tuned for the full album! ua-cam.com/video/434xCyCSXBg/v-deo.html
    Oh, and definitely check out his transcription of Giant Steps on the Shak!
    ua-cam.com/video/6I8mFQYCPbA/v-deo.html

    • @LeeGee
      @LeeGee 5 років тому +2

      Please.

    • @telecasteroil
      @telecasteroil 5 років тому +3

      This was super fascinating, I'd like to see more!
      I like the concept of no theme and the focus on tone .
      The selflessness of the music , the fact that it's not about
      you, we need more of that in the west.

    • @MrMoonCraft
      @MrMoonCraft 5 років тому +8

      Release the full interview

    • @ArielBenichou
      @ArielBenichou 5 років тому +1

      We need more Shakuhachi!
      thanks for the video!

    • @0neirogenic
      @0neirogenic 5 років тому

      Please do more with the shakuhachi

  • @elijahminiuk2058
    @elijahminiuk2058 5 років тому +587

    Me: Do you know how to vibrato?
    Adam's Friend: _SHAKES HEAD_

    • @Prajnana
      @Prajnana 5 років тому +49

      Of course, you can perform breath vibrato on shakuhachi, but that is not a traditional technique. Blowing the appropriately colored tone requires one to very precisely control the breath through the flute. This is accomplished by integrating the air flowing from deep within the lungs, out through the throat, mouth cavity, curve of the tongue, past the skillfully puckered lips and at a very precise angle across the utaguchi (the shak blowing edge). Any subtle change in the flow or shape of the breath stream (which might result from breath vibrato , for example) can, therefore, result in an undesired or unsatisfactory change in tone color, especially on certain notes.
      One may surmise that the shakuhachi is a primitive instrument. Mechanically it truly is simple, BUT, It is an extremely difficult instrument to play (even poorly!), but in capable hands, like Zak's, it can produce a huge range of emotional feelings. This is an excellent demo from which I learned much. Thanks! :-)

    • @elijahminiuk2058
      @elijahminiuk2058 5 років тому +11

      r/whooooooooosh

    • @Prajnana
      @Prajnana 5 років тому +31

      @@elijahminiuk2058 Exactly! I'm sill a novice at playing shakuhachi. When first starting, it took me hours of practice before I could even get a semblance of a note out of it. I really admire Zak's technique, control and tone, plus his knowledge of the music is motivating!

    • @xander1052
      @xander1052 5 років тому

      @@elijahminiuk2058 its r/woooosh ya nub

    • @xander1052
      @xander1052 5 років тому +18

      @@Prajnana I love how you entirely just reversed Elijah's pointing out of you missing his joke into talking more about the instrument, which is far more interesting than the joke.

  • @jimlapbap
    @jimlapbap 5 років тому +460

    Fun fact, the name Shakuhachi has to do with the length of the instrument. 尺(shaku) is about 30cm/1 foot and 八 (hachi) which is “eight” (寸(sun, 1寸= about 3cm/1.2inches/a 10th of a 尺)). So, you could say that it translates to the "1.8 feet."

    • @JariSatta
      @JariSatta 5 років тому +47

      その通りです。It is also slang for bj.

    • @jimlapbap
      @jimlapbap 5 років тому +7

      Fantastic. I wonder what Tsugaru shamisen is slang for.

    • @6884
      @6884 5 років тому +8

      japanese subways sound much more interesting now

    • @BethCarmichael628
      @BethCarmichael628 5 років тому +1

      @@JariSatta Are you being funny or is that really true?

    • @JariSatta
      @JariSatta 5 років тому +7

      @@BethCarmichael628 本当です。Hontou desu. It's true.

  • @lyricmomoschatzi8781
    @lyricmomoschatzi8781 5 років тому +408

    Please do one on Indian music! I recently got into Karnatic compositions and Hindustani raga. It's beautiful.

    • @DarthLore00
      @DarthLore00 5 років тому +16

      @@bryanleigh6497 Maybe he wants other people to know about it though and feels that Adam could explain it better than him? Perhaps.

    • @kungfuasgaeilge
      @kungfuasgaeilge 5 років тому +3

      Hey, that would mean another collab with Ben Levin, for sure! Do it Adam!

    • @meesterboo
      @meesterboo 5 років тому +2

      Lyric Momo Schatzi YES i would LOVE to see him do a video on indian music!!

    • @laubowiebass
      @laubowiebass 5 років тому +1

      I second this . I love classic ragas

    • @danballe
      @danballe 4 роки тому +1

      Adam gave us a glimpse of Indian music in his 18th century theory music vid. it is one of my favorite vids he has released.

  • @chickenbeforeegg
    @chickenbeforeegg 5 років тому +933

    Adam is the really cool home room teacher and Zac is the really cool substitute teacher.

    • @memedreams8558
      @memedreams8558 5 років тому +7

      I want Adam to be my personal bass teacher so I can actually become good at my instrument

    • @011001er
      @011001er 4 роки тому +8

      And what a time to be alive, that we get to be their students.

    • @auburnsmith5610
      @auburnsmith5610 4 роки тому +3

      Zac looks like budget PewDiePie

    • @hickorymccay2994
      @hickorymccay2994 4 роки тому +4

      Zac is the guest that your teacher brings in.

    • @hickorymccay2994
      @hickorymccay2994 4 роки тому +2

      It's like Mr. Rogers

  • @Corredor1230
    @Corredor1230 5 років тому +79

    Debussy on Shakuhachi was one thing I didn't expect but I'm glad I heard today.

    •  5 років тому +1

      Juan Pablo Corredor Juan Pabloooooo!!!

    • @Corredor1230
      @Corredor1230 5 років тому +1

      Paula Sofía Contreras Oyeeee que coincidencia!!

  • @mikesimpson3207
    @mikesimpson3207 5 років тому +293

    The way he described the more traditional Shakuhachi monk music (no real beat, no real theme, used for meditation) makes me think of old Western plainchant. Plenty of differences between the two naturally, but there does seem to be a kinship of purpose there.
    Also, hearing him break out in Debussy made my day.

    • @IONATVS
      @IONATVS 5 років тому +24

      chants in general have a “however long it feels right for it to take” approach to time and rhythm. Studies of the old-style “squiggly line” neums do seem to show a bit more of the specific rhythmic and accentual nuances (including embellishments) common to cantors and choruses singing Gregorian chants in the medieval period, but these were still clearly in a very free-time context.

    • @nochannelmusician769
      @nochannelmusician769 5 років тому +7

      I know when he broke out playing Debussy I was like “hey some music I actually know!”

    • @GiacomodellaSvezia
      @GiacomodellaSvezia 5 років тому +1

      It takes imagination and a sense of humor to make that musical leap.
      I understand Debussy liked gamelan, so I wouldn't be surprised if I learned he appreciated Japanese music as well.

    • @paavobergmann4920
      @paavobergmann4920 4 роки тому

      hmm....that comparison made me think of Sami joik for some reason. Some of those also just go along, until they are suddenly over.

  • @dill_peanuts_
    @dill_peanuts_ 5 років тому +47

    Never thought I’d hear Prelude à l’àprès-midi d’un faune on a shakuhachi... This video is amazing!

  • @PostApocolyptica
    @PostApocolyptica 5 років тому +194

    Well, you certainly don't get interesting material quite like this from Duolingo. Thanks, Adam! EDIT: I wasn't expecting Zac to demonstrate "Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune", but it was quite pleasant all the same.

    • @TAP7a
      @TAP7a 5 років тому +1

      Oh my god that would be amazing

    • @gustavertboellecomposer
      @gustavertboellecomposer 5 років тому +1

      Ohhhh right that's where it was from. For a moment I was thinking it was from one of ravel's preludes or maybe Stravinsky's firebird. I think Stravinsky has a similar melody in one of his pieces??

    • @imdone8243
      @imdone8243 5 років тому +1

      Duolingo killed my father :(

  • @kengonagaoka1968
    @kengonagaoka1968 5 років тому +52

    Pretty incredible stuff. I learned a lot, I’m japanese and have never come across this type of notation. Such a different philosophy of music

  • @tannerbobanner9453
    @tannerbobanner9453 5 років тому +638

    ADAM! You forgot to censor the sheet music!! UMG is in their way right now.... XD

    • @cc12yt
      @cc12yt 5 років тому +7

      xd

    • @stevesynan3910
      @stevesynan3910 5 років тому +88

      Sorry man, but you said the word “Forgot”, did you forget about Dre? That word has already been used in that song, be prepared for a heavy lawsuit coming from UMG.

    • @Daniel-hx1yu
      @Daniel-hx1yu 5 років тому +7

      Steve Synan lmao? « Be prepared »? We know Disney gonna sue you. Periodt

    • @NormanBEnz-dt3hr
      @NormanBEnz-dt3hr 5 років тому +10

      @@Daniel-hx1yu Did you really just use the registered trademark "Disney" (all rights belong to the Walt Disney company) in the composition of an original sentence without crediting the owner of the term? Bold move, hope you have a good lawyer!

    • @ZaleARogers
      @ZaleARogers 4 роки тому

      UMG could never own something as beautiful as the shakuhachi music.

  • @martifingers
    @martifingers 5 років тому +10

    So much to admire here in terms of musical skill and knowledge. But perhaps best of all is the attitude of both participants. Zac is amazing while Adam's genius (apart from the editing process - perfectly done I would guess from the large amount cut out) is to stand back for the most part only intervening to add clarity and help understanding. Another exemplary video.

  • @markmalinowski5951
    @markmalinowski5951 5 років тому +56

    I don't have a Shakuhachi but now I'm inspired to do more quarter tones with the open holes on my clarinet

    • @steve7745
      @steve7745 4 роки тому +2

      I know I'm a bit late, but you haven't looked into it at all I'd highly recommend looking at indian music played using clarinets. I'm a big fan of Shankar Tukar, western trained clarinetist who fell in love with indian music and learned to translate the technique to the instrument, really exposed me to quarter steps and alternative tonal systems

    • @markmalinowski5951
      @markmalinowski5951 4 роки тому +2

      @@steve7745 Thank you! His slide technique is perfect too! These days the clarinet is much underappreciated. Also for a death metal twist on clarinet check out Caleb Canatheviphth 👹

  • @sachionang
    @sachionang 4 роки тому +28

    I actually do Japanese Dance, and from years of listening to traditional Japanese music, there is a very strong emphasis on strong and weak beats!

  • @aylbdrmadison1051
    @aylbdrmadison1051 5 років тому +13

    16:30 This is how you continue to learn and get better all the time. It's not about mastery, because once you *think* you have mastered anything, you have completely blocked anymore growth in that area. This works the same for everything from music, cooking, relating to people, learning a language, learning about love, or any type of job there ever has been or will be.

  • @stevetrujillo324
    @stevetrujillo324 5 років тому +8

    I've always felt so safe and confident with the contentment of the phrase "Music is a universal language", and while I still believe that, this video diagnoses anxious feelings within.
    Just in the same way that there's not so much (if any) of that "home", or at least progressive repetition and understanding we seek for in Western music.
    Like with his river analogy, I would like to say that the cultural style we've adapted to is in search of an ocean or sea, where they're just enjoying the ride. They're getting the most fullness out of a meditation rather than expecting to be done soon, or occupied by the worry of a time, effectivity, or gratification limitation.
    You'll hear so much that life is all about the journey, and the freedom; and doing good deeds isn't about reconciliation or what you get in return but about the karma and just that (for lack of better phrasing) warm feeling we get inside. Again that *freedom of guilt and surplus of positivity/optimism. I think that odyssey-like perspective is definitely one way the Japanese / eastern Asian music would have a more insightful take on music.
    Props to you if you read the whole way through, hope you gained any minimal alternative perception:)

  • @PugCuber
    @PugCuber 3 роки тому +11

    One of my dad’s friends plays Shakuhachi. It’s super cool
    also, the thing at 5:16 is called a grupetto

  • @Joyweathertalks
    @Joyweathertalks 5 років тому +2

    I never even thought about how traditional Japanese music would be notated differently despite being Japanese. Weirdly that was what took me for a ride the most. It was also really cool to hear about the difference in how the music is used as well as the purpose of it. So much good stuff!

  • @jexalinne5959
    @jexalinne5959 5 років тому +82

    This makes me appreciate the Sekiro soundtrack all the more, thank you!

    • @chaoticgood9297
      @chaoticgood9297 5 років тому +4

      Damn it, you just reminded me of the Twitter "outrage" Sony caused by having a western sakuhachi player (officially recognised as a master, Cornelius Boots) on the Ghosts of Tsushima E3 presentation.

  • @theawesomebrick
    @theawesomebrick 5 років тому +5

    It was really interesting to hear that bit about there being a kind of "gravity" pulling forward in tempo and down in pitch, it really reminded me of the idea of how tension and release can be found as basic concepts of almost any music, regardless of culture. Keep up the interesting content, Adam!

  • @gungy_vt
    @gungy_vt 5 років тому +399

    "This one is called Zan Getsu"
    BANKAI.

    • @Matt.Craine
      @Matt.Craine 5 років тому +2

      Beat me to it

    • @stephen0793
      @stephen0793 5 років тому +1

      I know right!

    • @lebro4401
      @lebro4401 5 років тому

      *BANZAI*

    • @visionaeon
      @visionaeon 5 років тому +4

      BAN-KAI! *Number One starts to play*

    • @Rhaegar19
      @Rhaegar19 5 років тому +7

      Sadly, "zan" in this case means "lingering" rather than "cutting" moon.

  • @beep8771
    @beep8771 5 років тому +3

    13:45
    We kinda have that with guitar tabs. An E on 12th fret on string 6 sounds very different from the "same" E on second fret on string 4.

  • @Superphilipp
    @Superphilipp 5 років тому +176

    In fire bending, power comes from the breath!

    • @FunnelCakeRyan
      @FunnelCakeRyan 5 років тому +8

      Scrolled down to look for an Uncle Iroh reference. Was not dissappointed.

    • @Ryuma_MO
      @Ryuma_MO 5 років тому +8

      "Did I ever tell you how I got the nickname 'Dragon of the West'?"

    • @onkelpappkov2666
      @onkelpappkov2666 5 років тому +9

      Why are you still watching these stupid shakuhachi videos? We need to set course immediately and capture the Avatar so I can restore my honor.

    • @livedandletdie
      @livedandletdie 5 років тому +1

      Well in all Martial arts breath is what gives power.

  • @GabrielPerboni
    @GabrielPerboni 5 років тому +14

    Hey! That was really cool!!! I hope you do more non-American stuff in the future, not only eastern but also Latin music, Brazilian, african, etc

  • @peepeeland
    @peepeeland 5 років тому +7

    Super cosmic next-nevel shit. Thank you for sharing. Even being Japanese and listening to Japanese music my whole life, this helped me with seeing shakuhachi in a new light.

  • @Invisible_Hermit
    @Invisible_Hermit 5 років тому +1

    The end of this video was indeed the most inspirational part. I'm 56 years old, and just started playing this marvelous instrument several months ago. With limited eyesight, some of that notation presents quite a challenge for me, so I'm glad to hear that playing it from the heart is more or less the idea. As a Buddhist, I can only hope that maybe I'll be halfway decent in a few lifetimes! LOL. Thank you for this brilliant and informative tutorial.

  • @activistarts7722
    @activistarts7722 5 років тому +35

    Brain Ritchie of the Violent Femmes is another Jazz Shakuhachi player who I got see live. Unforgettable experience. There are more players than you think, you have to dig amongst the old music, like Reikan Kobayashi & Kominato Akihisa. The earliest cross over artist that I know of is John Kaizan Neptune with records from the 70's.
    Rich and unexplored history of pushing the shakuhachi outside its traditional limits. Even my teacher plays western classical interpretations on her flute.
    Finally, thanks for doing a video on this fabulous instrument and as a student playing for 3 years, this video helped me understand a lot of concepts I still struggle with after just finding a teacher a few months ago. Zac Zinger is well on his way to becoming a certified master , scares me cuz I'll never reach his skill level lol

    • @Copperhell144
      @Copperhell144 4 роки тому +3

      Every single artist you mentioned is on Spotify with a few songs, except Kominato Akihisa who only has one song. So thank you for the name drops, lol

    • @activistarts7722
      @activistarts7722 4 роки тому +2

      @@Copperhell144 Thanks for reading and keep flutin!

  • @MichaelBogaMusic
    @MichaelBogaMusic 5 років тому +8

    Damn you can feel he's so passionated about it. That was a dope video, thanks guys!

  • @codymccormick7317
    @codymccormick7317 5 років тому +152

    Oh thank God you uploaded. I was starting to have Neely withdrawals

  • @GwazaJuse
    @GwazaJuse 5 років тому +2

    This is your best episode for me. Please do more of these with different musical traditions.

  • @EllissDee4you4me
    @EllissDee4you4me 5 років тому +6

    I love how he just busted out that Debussy flute solo to demonstrate vibrato.

  • @AlecStory
    @AlecStory 5 років тому +1

    The tone color / key issue is really interesting! Some of the videos by the folks over at orchestra in the age of enlightenment talk about the same issue - without complex compensating key systems, flutes and other instruments have the same problem, so different keys really do have different feelings. We've largely lost that today.

  • @AntonioKowatsch
    @AntonioKowatsch 5 років тому +3

    The odd thing is that I already knew all of this.
    When it comes to traditional Japanese instruments I'm very well educated.
    The thing that I'm currently discovering for myself is Maqam music. You should do a video about that next. It's truly beautiful and unique.

  • @jennw6809
    @jennw6809 5 років тому +2

    Wow, fascinating. I got a chance to study Javanese Gamelan and it's also an incredibly different concept about what music "IS" and where it resides (in the instruments) and how to notate it and interpret the notation. Would love more videos along these lines!

  • @prateekgautam5514
    @prateekgautam5514 5 років тому +4

    that painting in the background is just....wow!!!

  • @2357y1113
    @2357y1113 5 років тому

    Hi Adam, question for your next Q+A:
    What is jazz about? What is the culture of and the feeling associated with jazz? Rock and punk are about aggression and rebellion, pop music is about fun and accessability, rap is about the struggles and realities of poor neighbourhoods. I'm not saying that these genres are only about these things but just as a general idea of what I mean by my question. The only thing I can come up with, as it seems to me, is that jazz is "the musician's music". I think that to most people "real" jazz (i.e. no background music) sounds disorienting and unpleasant, whereas I as a hobby musician can at least appreciate the immense mastery needed to do all these crazy musical ideas in jazz, even if I don't understand them. I'd like to hear your thoughts. Awesome content, greetings from Germany :)

  • @resena7234
    @resena7234 5 років тому +24

    For your Q+A:
    Hi Adam! Totally AMAZING video, pliiiis add more "ethnomusicology-oriented" videos in the future! This one it made me think a lot about this: in the past video you talked a lot about music notation as a mean of expression, as a language with a grammar. So, if music is a language, are there different possible experiences in reading music, without playing the music written? I mean reading music as alphabetical texts: the medium remains the same, but our mental disposition toward the text and our experience as readers can change if we are confronting with a novel, a scientific research, or a political pamphlet. If this is the case, does the musical genre change the experience of reading music, beside the reproduction of notes? Cheers from Italy!

  • @subversiveasset
    @subversiveasset 5 років тому +1

    aaahh this was so interesting! And when he played those miyako-bushi scales, it gave me STRONG vibes of Japan's theme from Civ 6 (Lullaby of Itsuki)

  • @williamwoodward2632
    @williamwoodward2632 5 років тому +6

    I enjoyed this immensely as the Shakuhachi is awesome and one of my fav instruments

  • @divaldorocha7837
    @divaldorocha7837 5 років тому +1

    The philosophy, in the end, was beautiful! Japanese make saying like we do poetry! They are so sweet and full of wisdom.

  • @eliash2827
    @eliash2827 5 років тому +7

    I’ve been waiting for this since yesterday. Happy to see it uploaded!

    • @Superphilipp
      @Superphilipp 5 років тому +1

      I've been waiting for this since 2005!

    • @aweirdbloke7758
      @aweirdbloke7758 5 років тому +1

      Well, I’ve been waiting since the lick was first played.

  • @c64cosmin
    @c64cosmin 5 років тому +2

    This kind of natural and instinctual approach to learning different skills, in the Japanese culture, is ubiquitous. Especially the "easy to grasp, hard to master" way of teaching. You can go in depth, talking about the culture and the historical choices for hours, indifferent of the certain skill chosen. I studied Japanese language and played a little bit of Go and as I can see, the shakuhachi seems to be the same. Simple, yet like a life long journey.

  • @devinmin9894
    @devinmin9894 5 років тому +23

    Giant step(su)
    That's a perfection

  • @yuvalne
    @yuvalne 5 років тому +1

    In the 1940's in Israel there was a problem, because the popular music at the time was that of a semi-bigband ensemble with a singer who sings in Hebrew. You can see scores from the time where the entire notation is flipped, as if you were reading it looking through a mirror, and so you can then write the lyrics without having problems with left to right notation.

  • @ILDTSM
    @ILDTSM 5 років тому +8

    Hey Adam, questions for your next Q&A:
    Have you ever rejected a gig because you felt that you are not technically proficient enough to play for the gig?
    What are your thoughts on playing with a click on stage? I am a drummer in church and I really struggle to do that because not everyone is on monitoring headphones and can hear the click. As a result, when I pull the band back to follow the click, it can get very distracting for the singers and it appears that I have bad time.
    Do you prefer in ear monitoring? Or monitor speakers? How do you ensure that you don't get hearing damage?
    What suggestions can you give to a young song writer that have very little chord knowledge? I write songs, but I feel that as a drummer there is a limit to how much I can produce myself.
    Questlove, the drummer from The Roots once said in a video that the sloppier he delivers his breaks/beats the more heartfelt and human it is. What are your thoughts on that? What differentiates a sloppy drummer and a drummer that purposefully tries to be sloppy?
    I see certain drummers like Ringo Starr and Charlie Watts, they certainly don't have the best technique when it comes to their instruments. However, they are among the most iconic drummers in popular music. Did that lack of technique actually made them unique? What other musicians do you like that doesn't have the best technique?

    • @fran6b
      @fran6b 5 років тому +1

      For the sloppiness in drumming, check out a recent video in which Adam explain the song Drunk for is band Sungazer. It explain pretty much that concept of sloppiness in drumming.

    • @absurdistcat
      @absurdistcat 5 років тому

      These are all great, I'd love to see him answer them.

  • @SyncrisisVideos
    @SyncrisisVideos 5 років тому +1

    That's a great phrase! It's a skill that takes a lifetime, so the earlier you start the longer it takes.

  • @Kigit42
    @Kigit42 5 років тому +11

    Adam really likes his dutch angles

  • @CarlMichaelAyotte
    @CarlMichaelAyotte 5 років тому

    I've watched thousands of Shakuhachi videos in the last 10 years, this may have been the most informative and concise. Thank you!

  • @matteogenerani5097
    @matteogenerani5097 5 років тому +58

    5:22 “Gruppetto” the italian name for the “turn” ornament (“gruppetti” is the plural)

  • @ConwayBob
    @ConwayBob 5 років тому

    Thank you for another refreshing side-trip, Adam.
    Shakuhachi music is beautiful in its simplicity, and the Japanese katakana notation matches its simple beauty in visual terms. Although learning to read this notation "sideways" could be a little easier for many of us Westerners who are accustomed to reading left-to-right, top-down, I suspect that learning to read the Asian vertical top-down, right-to-left arrangement of symbols could be more fruitful in the long run. About 15 or so minutes of Zen meditation before each practice session might help.

  • @MohamedTarek-lz3hi
    @MohamedTarek-lz3hi 5 років тому +209

    LMFAO لعق الجاز isn't an accurate translation its just hilarious that way

    • @osaze2708
      @osaze2708 5 років тому +5

      Mohamed Tarek i know it doesn’t make any sense😂

    • @ThatWeirdCellist
      @ThatWeirdCellist 5 років тому +5

      Licking the jazz is how I read it.
      That, or I completely misread it.

    • @axo4947
      @axo4947 3 роки тому

      Lick the neighbor

  • @kjell159
    @kjell159 5 років тому

    I feel flattered,
    I saw/listened to your collab with Zac Zinger! ;)
    I also watched your videos before you two guys got together to make great music, so that's pretty cool to see you got interested in shakuhachi.
    You seem like a broad minded, intelligent guy when I watch your videos. I'm not a professional musician and I have no formal musical education, but I learn some stuff here and there from you for sure.
    Funny thing, most shakuhachi players say that learning to sight read shakuhachi ('Japanese katakana') notation in the ro tsu re - traditions of most schools (Kinko ryu, Tozan ryu, etc.) is easier then learning western musical notation.
    Which I have personally experienced to be the case as well. Even though I do not speak, understand or can read Japanese, I do can read shakuhachi music.
    Only the details, 'flavourings' like muraikis, certain particular 'ataris', certain holes being closed or opened for certain sounds;
    are usually only really clear when someone else or a teacher lays it out for you, it is pretty detailed 'music'/breathing exercises/meditations.
    Shakuhachi 'music' is really about timbre/sound color, rather then rhythm and melody.

  • @videogamingmusician9844
    @videogamingmusician9844 5 років тому +4

    This is an awesome video, and I hope it inspires a lot of people to pick a shakuhachi up. Honestly do it! Such a cool instrument to play.

  • @mudkiptm1951
    @mudkiptm1951 5 років тому +2

    As someone whose been learning japanese for a few years, this is really cool to learn.

  • @samuelwnovak
    @samuelwnovak 5 років тому +4

    He made Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun sound even more otherworldly, damn.

  • @CharlesEBusa
    @CharlesEBusa 2 роки тому

    Play the first 3 notes in a music store and they'll kick you out XD.
    Great video, as always, Adam!

  • @prarobinson
    @prarobinson 5 років тому +79

    As a shakuhachi player, I approve this video :)

  • @kvn95ss
    @kvn95ss 5 років тому +2

    The closing remarks are really inspiring!

  • @igsoblechero
    @igsoblechero 5 років тому +48

    Watching this video I see A LOT of conceptual similarities with Western pre-Baroque music and, specifically, Gregorian chant. For example, rhythm was also kind of free, although you also had some indications, but nothing to do with our current concept. And harmony was irrelevant, with monks singing at unison. Have these similarities been studied? Do you think there's a common pattern on how music started to evolved in unrelated cultures the same way it happens with human language?
    Thanks for your videos! You always inspire me much further about music and general knowledge. Cheers!

    • @forrcaho
      @forrcaho 5 років тому +6

      I've been reading this book called _Comparing Notes_ by Adam Ockelford, and while I'm hesitant to recommend it because it's written in a convoluted style, he does suggest that the ontogeny of musical development (how a child develops a sense of music growing up) parallels the phylogeny of musical development (how human civilizations have developed their sense of music over time). If this is true, then we would expect parallels between ancient musical traditions that have developed in different cultures -- for example, melodic unison being the common style before harmony appears.

    • @everab1209
      @everab1209 3 роки тому

      Pentatonic scale sure has something to do with it. It's the easiest scale you can get out making a flute. Here in south America the first flutes and music seems to have been pentatonic.

  • @dd376ers
    @dd376ers 4 роки тому +2

    3:32 didn't feel like a "guest" in the Kakariko Village theme from Breath of the Wild xD awesome video man

  • @ibji
    @ibji 5 років тому +9

    @7:39 he says, so if you were to play it straight from the page, you'd miss all the subtleties from hearing it...so basically it's just like western notation.

  • @bidaubadeadieu
    @bidaubadeadieu 5 років тому

    Adam, this is one of my favorite videos that you've ever made! I love learning about music, and instruments and styles from around the world, especially how different they can be from the Western world where I grew up. Thank you!

  • @mariokirwant3232
    @mariokirwant3232 5 років тому +3

    Hey Adam,
    Actually, in violin is preferent to play the same note some way than another because of timber, especially when you play fingering instead of playing with free strings because it is "softer" and you also can make more vibrato. So at least in violin as the shakuhachi, the timber is as important as the tone.

  • @IanMainBliss
    @IanMainBliss 3 роки тому

    oh that's awesome. Very nice work! Amazing to catch a westerner learning a japanese skill and enjoying it so much. Have fun!

  • @gabrielmorton7030
    @gabrielmorton7030 5 років тому +10

    The miyajo-bushi scale is identical to the Ethiopian Ambassel scale

  • @jppagetoo
    @jppagetoo 5 років тому

    I have never seen that sideways S notation before. It is called a "Turn". It has different meanings depending on placement or inversion. I learned musical notation coming from a choral music background so maybe that explains why I haven't seen it before. I learned something today! Thanks Adam.

  • @MisterManDuck
    @MisterManDuck 5 років тому +532

    For those that don't know, that was 'the jazz lick' in Arabic. :p
    ARAB NATIONS REPRESENT.

    • @AlhassanGuitar
      @AlhassanGuitar 5 років тому +42

      جملة الجاز would be more appropriate and would have a better meaning in Arabic music context, as in the video it translates to licking the jazz, while جملة الجاز would translate to the jazz sentence in Arabic it means jazz lick. greetings from Iraq :)

    • @matthewtorbert9211
      @matthewtorbert9211 5 років тому +8

      Thank you for this vital piece of information

    • @jon.wilson
      @jon.wilson 5 років тому +17

      You gotta lick the jazz

    • @MisterManDuck
      @MisterManDuck 5 років тому +7

      ​@@AlhassanGuitar
      Sure, going with 'Jumlat Al-Jazz' (no Arabic keyboard) is more proper but I disagree with that notion because prescriptivism has it's place, and it's not here.
      'The Jazz Lick' is, at it's heart, inherently more colloquial than proper and I'm okay with playing a little fast and loose with language when the need arises.
      If you want to go with the 'proper' meaning, then go for it. But it doesn't capture the feel of 'the jazz lick' by being that proper, and nobody would really get what you're talking about. It would serve as a good translation of the 'jazz *phrase*' better than *lick*, and kills the joke.
      And "La'aq" is a fine substitute for the the noun version of 'Lick', it can work as either noun or verb. Conveniently enough, just like the word 'Lick' itself.

    • @MisterManDuck
      @MisterManDuck 5 років тому

      @@St0ckwell I think he was going more for translation than transliteration.

  • @DovidM
    @DovidM 5 років тому

    Tony Scott (a Jazz clarinetist) released a LP in 1964 on which he plays shakuhachi in what some call the first New Age album. The album is called “Music for Zen Meditation”, and one of the tracks was sampled by Four Tet.

  • @racenicolia29
    @racenicolia29 5 років тому +56

    For a Q+A
    I recently herd a piece called big trouble by a group called man man (really good). The guitar in the A section is like completely in a different key or something but why does it work so well though.

    • @IcarusRuthven
      @IcarusRuthven 5 років тому +5

      Ives' "George Washington Bridge" has some of that at points, meant to evoke the different levels of traffic going in opposite directions on the eponymous bridge.
      Assuming I got the title and composer right, I mean.

    • @charliejenkins100
      @charliejenkins100 5 років тому +2

      Thank You for this comment. Just discovered them. Just the right amount of weird for me.

    • @BudCharlesUnderVlogs
      @BudCharlesUnderVlogs 5 років тому +3

      Race Nicolia Pro tip, make sure the guitar isn’t in the same key

    • @HeyZeus096
      @HeyZeus096 5 років тому

      Man Man is so fucking good.

  • @yponeko
    @yponeko 5 років тому

    Wow. I own a Shakuhachi since 3 years, but i learned more usefull things about it after this last 16min !
    Definitly motivated me to get back practicing ^^ thanks for the lesson Sensei !

    • @yponeko
      @yponeko 5 років тому

      also i was doing volume tremolo all the time ... DUH

  • @macleadg
    @macleadg 5 років тому +19

    Western classical string music often includes string indications (“sul G”) or bowing indications to produce a specific tone color (“sul tasto”). A good example is Bach’s Partita #3 in E for solo violin. The note E is (later A) is insistently repeated, but you alternate between an open string and a fingered note of the same pitch, producing a sort if illusion of melody (a similar idea was later termed “kleinfarbenmelodie”). To my novice mind, these seem similar to the tone indications in shakuhachi notation.
    Can anyone confirm or deny this observation?
    Also, if I decide to study jazz shakuhachi, will I automatically become the second best player in the world? lol

  • @arenard765
    @arenard765 5 років тому

    The miyako-bushi scale makes me think a lot about Mulatu Astatke's ethiopian jazz ! Great video, thank you Adam and Zac !

  • @riparia2702
    @riparia2702 5 років тому +50

    For an Q and A:
    Dear Adam, how many bassguitars do you have and can you show them to us and tell their story?

    • @lifeontheledgerlines8394
      @lifeontheledgerlines8394 5 років тому +3

      I think he has 4.
      His gear is all listed here: equipboard.com/pros/adam-neely/#

    • @richsackett3423
      @richsackett3423 5 років тому +1

      @@lifeontheledgerlines8394 I don't know what it equipboard is but it's not correct. Adam's been playing his Dingwall a lot.

  • @fireemblem2770
    @fireemblem2770 5 років тому

    As someone who has been studying Japanese for over 5 years, your pronouncing of Japanese words is spot on!

  • @ryofurue
    @ryofurue 5 років тому +2

    Interesting that "korogashi" actually means "to turn"! You turn the notes. Thanks for the illuminating video.

  • @paulpaschulke8636
    @paulpaschulke8636 5 років тому

    Thank you very much, Adam!!
    As a composer and also a music theorist, this is the extremely high-quality, and for me in this case still completely unknown, exciting content that I am looking for [on yt].

  • @Seralzae
    @Seralzae 5 років тому +5

    Man, seeing Adam make these kind of videos make me feel giddy as a musician that mainly dabbles in Japanese traditional Music
    The lack of the concept of "tempo" is actually pretty common in other Japanese instrumental works too
    Japanese traditional music has a lot of that "empty space" too
    Modern and western influence has of course changed many aspects of the music now, which has its own appeal

  • @charlesdouglas9019
    @charlesdouglas9019 4 роки тому

    THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! I started playing classical guitar again and started relearning the traditional song Sakura. I know I can play it in the classical Western standard notation as written in the sheet music, but I know there must be a much more authentic "phrasing" to play the piece! (I'm not sure phrasing is the most accurate term to use, but I think you understand what I mean!) Even though the roots of the style of music Sakura and the Koto is based on is different than the style Shakuhachi is based on, this video gave me starting points to direct my research into playing better! And for that, I appreciate you!

  • @stephen0793
    @stephen0793 5 років тому +8

    Incredible! More non-Western music content please! Sincerely, an anthropologist (do the oud next!)

    • @TheMrVengeance
      @TheMrVengeance 4 роки тому

      I can no longer see/hear that instrument referenced without thinking of Bill Bailey. 😄

  • @evilotis01
    @evilotis01 5 років тому

    "The earlier you start, the longer it takes." Words to live by. This video was absolutely fascinating! Thank you ❤️

  • @verandi3882
    @verandi3882 5 років тому +6

    Globalism confirmed
    First the hilarious arabic translation, then the japanese instrument played by an american then an italian symbol in notation, and eventually a piece made by a french composer on a Japanese instrument , Adam is truly a man of culture , amazing video and very informative

  • @goudagirl6095
    @goudagirl6095 4 роки тому +1

    this reminds me of what I've read about the Yoshida Brothers who took the art of playing the shamisen, a very traditional and loved Japanese instrument, to a "whole nutha level."

  • @iswearitwasntmeeee8607
    @iswearitwasntmeeee8607 5 років тому +3

    Ah I had no idea this notation existed .-. I really want to see him doing a video on simplified notation as well that’ll be cool ^

  • @ibieldahuk
    @ibieldahuk 5 років тому

    Marvellous! I loved the video. I hope to see more of them exploring different cultures and it would be great if a native of that same culture could be the interviewed. Thanks, Adam!

  • @chrisischauer56
    @chrisischauer56 5 років тому +3

    I’d love to hear the “Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune” flute solo played by an actual Shakuhachi with orchestra! 14:44

  • @HaliPuppeh
    @HaliPuppeh 5 років тому

    I think this is in my top 5 favorite videos of yours, Adam. This was absolutely fascinating as a composer.

  • @charliewilson8950
    @charliewilson8950 5 років тому +216

    Adam: *Doesn't censor the japanese sheet music*
    UMG Monks: NONIIIII??

    • @tomlobur111
      @tomlobur111 5 років тому +27

      *nani?

    • @jame254
      @jame254 5 років тому +2

      また言ってを??

    • @markusschultz4637
      @markusschultz4637 5 років тому

      what does Nonii mean?

    • @LaughingOrange
      @LaughingOrange 5 років тому +7

      @@markusschultz4637 assuming it was a typo of "nani" it would translate to "what".

  • @SorenAraujo
    @SorenAraujo 5 років тому +1

    Off to listen to some traditional japanese music now. Thanks!!!

  • @rammsteinrulz16
    @rammsteinrulz16 5 років тому +3

    First introduction to the shakuhachi:
    Linkin Park - Nobody's Listening
    Still in love with it today

  • @stradybluesy4750
    @stradybluesy4750 5 років тому

    13:38 It's very interesting, because bowed instruments classical notation, takes fingering in account, in order to render different timbre effects.
    In orchestras, a whole section (v1, v2, violas or celli...) has to agree on how they will finger and bow a phrase, to be sure that the whole section is rendering the same type of sound.
    And if you listen carefully to the first notes of the main theme of Tchaikovsky 's violin concerto (Dmajor), you'll notice that it is always fingered in order to have a gentle glissando and a slightly muted timbre on the second note, a sixth higher than the first one. And it is intersting to notice that this effect works exactly where it is played on the instrument, and already disappears a whole step higher or lower.
    As always, excellent work ! Teaching me so much !

  • @octubre_lilaka
    @octubre_lilaka 3 роки тому +6

    Damn, I feel like the shakuhachi in bossa nova would be amazing

    • @AreEnTee
      @AreEnTee 3 роки тому

      😱😱😱🔥🔥🔥

  • @marselmusic
    @marselmusic 5 років тому

    I’m not even kidding when i was 13 i used to think of this things on the daily but i gave up yet two years later you start going into all these things, couldn’t have been more blest!