I don't think they'd do Superior Spider-Man, I think it'd hit the same story beats as the symbiote, and that another hostile takeover of Peter would seem a bit derivative.
I think they’re gonna mix the clone saga and superior, having octavius clone Peter and put his brain in the clones body, maybe even wearing the white and green dr octopus suit with the mask
@@disrespect9376 I can see the concept of that working 100%, I just can't see it working in practice with what we've been giving from this universe so far, but that sounds like it'd be fun for a comic book run for 616 or something icl
I dont think Otto would reveal what their names are even if it wasnt Norman. He was only attacking Peter cause in his eyes its what he had to do but he does care for Peter and always will. Its why I dont see Superior Spider-Man happening He wasnt lying in the first game when he said Peter's secret is safe with him
I agree he definitely wouldn't tell anybody else, but not because I think he still cares for peter, but because revealing peter's identity would mess with Otto's plan, if he does plan to have peter's identity revealed it would be when he's out of prison and can control the situation as it escalates, I don't think Otto still cares for peter because he blames him for his current situation, not just being behind bars but also taking his arms, which are invaluable to him, because of that most of the hate Otto held for Norman was transferred to Peter (in the first game Otto blamed Norman for a lot of the troubles he faced), he still hates Norman but less so than in the first game. Also another factor that reduces the amount of hate Otto held for Norman was that he can relate to him now to an extent, because now both of their lives have been "ruined" by the Spider-Men.
I don't think they're gonna do Superior Spider Man for 2 reasons #1: Insomniac stated that the reason they didn't include the Black Suit in the first game is that they wanted to devote time and focus to doing that suit, and the story around it, justice. Similarly I believe they said at one point (I think before the game came out) that it'd omit Miles suit because it was being saved for when Miles became Spider Man. With this in mind, the fact that the Superior suit is included in Spider Man 2 would, by established logic, suggest they don't see the need to save the Superior suit for the 3rd game, indicating that they don't intend to use the storyline. #2: Spider-Man 2 gives us an epic, emotional battle between Peter and Miles because of the symbiote, from a gameplay perspective it would feel a little like just repeating the same formula to do Superior Spider-Man, just without Miles trying to reach out to him 'cause Peter isn't in there.
Well they obviously would create their own unique Superior Spider-Man suit. Otto created the Advanced Suit, so his Superior suit would be an updated version of that. They aren't going to use an unlockable suit in the actual canon story of the game.
i dont think its going to follow the same formula because if peter and otto were to switch minds, otto would have the memories of peter and understand why he does what he does. since otto is smart it would follow the story beats of what's the right thing to do vs whats the smartest thing to do. yes it may follow the kill vs spare rule. in this game we see the positive aspects of sparing a villain and giving them a second chance but what if this motif gets further pushed in spider-man 3 where you see mostly negative aspects of what sparing a life can do and how a second chance only allows them more opportunities to hurt people. also i dont beleive that peter parker would stay as peter parker since otto said it is going to be the final chapter. the final chapter he is refering to may be peter parker's story not miles, it would poetic if he took down the villian he helped create in the first game
The only thing I think that makes it not too canon is that Peter would definitely try and help miles in ATSV rather than every other Spider-Man because he even wished he could’ve saved Jeff
@@pio1483 I feel like the reeason why almost every Spidey is on Miguel's side is the information given to them (plus Miguel's experiences with canon events). All of them were told that if these events were prevented then everyone within a universe would be killed and so they are presented with a moral dillema, save the one person you care about or save everyone else. Due to the selfless nature of Spider-Man as a whole, I think they chose to save everyone else. Plus it gives them comfort knowing that the suffering they are going through and the loved ones they lost ultimately serve a greater purpose. Deep down, I feel like every Spider-Man wants to help Miles but they can't risk something so great.
@@disrespect9376 wtf yes? Spider-Man helps everyone he can, not that he tries to save every single one whether the math says he should or not. By the math alone saving the city instead of just May is exactly what most variants Spider-Man should and would do, bc they’re saving more people and they know some sacrifices have to be made. Especially as May is willing. But, what a Spider-Man would never do, is specifically choose not to save someone that they have the power to save bc some retard tells them the story has to go that way or their dimension will end. That’s a dumb plot element to begin with, but especially so bc most Spider-Men would not go along with that bs.
@@filomazing25_20 sure, but it’s a retarded story piece. The reaction works in the story, sure, but only barely-most Spiders would not go along with that easily, and a lone Miles variant wouldn’t be the only one. To go with Miguel’s idea is much too callous for Spider-Man
Seeing as how Insomniac didn’t put the symbiote suit in the first game, purely because they were planning on using it in the sequel, I doubt they’ll do the Superior Spider-Man arch in the next game, since the Superior Spider-Man suit is in this game
I figure it must’ve been Kraven himself. 1) We see in the map in game that Taskmaster is at least on their radar, he’s known by the Hunters. 2) He doesn’t hunt Taskmaster, or if he does we never hear about it, which to me makes it seem they’re on good terms, or at least not too worried about each other. 3) Kraven seems to have already made up his mind that Peter isn’t worth his time as a hunt, which suggests he had prior intel, that he could’ve gotten from Taskmaster
@pio5119 I thought that at first too, but it doesn't seem likely. They would've at least mentioned it at some point. As of now, my best guess is A.I.M., which is kinda lame since every time TM shows up in media, he's always working for them.
I think it's the avengers Spider-Man is in the avengers in many forms of media and taskmaster does say "they pay Six figures" It can mean just money but they're are six people in the avengers cap,hulk,iron man,black widow,thor,and hawk eye but that could only be just a coincidence To me I honestly think it's the avengers
The Black Cat mission was my favorite mission of the game so far, I loved how they tied Spider-Man to a new character to the universe especially such a magically strange one.
in regards to Point 4: I feel like you forgot that the sidemissions in the first game led up to the DLC missions. The Flame and Unidentified Target missions set up the DLC, not the third game. the 3rd game set up was in the main story, so Cindy's set up will be in the DLC, or a mid-game like Miles' standalone title, if not in the 3rd game.
I think Chameleon is more likely to be DLC than the continuation of "the Flame" storyline. Evidently, they're going to introduce Carnage. And if Venom deserved a spotlight in the main campaign, I feel like Carnage does as well. It'd be difficult to REALLY do Carnage justice in some DLC packs. If Insomniac is even doing DLC this time around.
@@callmeinsteadCarnage should be a three part DLC like Hammerhead. Carnage should not be the main villain. We just did a whole game about Symbioites we don’t need another. Green Goblin is clearly going to be the big villain of SM3.
this game was a definite 10/10 for me personally Definitely love all the world and universe building they’re doing with it, daredevil and carnage DLCS are both absolute musts in my opinion.
I don’t think they’re gonna do superior spider man simply because the skin is in spider man 2, if they had plans to do superior spider man they would have kept it out just like they did with the black suit in the first game
To add on to the idea that Doctor Strange isn't well known within this universe, on Jameson's podcast he says, "If magic is indeed real, then we must hope upon hope that someone out there is using it for good-" which basically confirms that the masses are not aware of Strange's existence.
Does anyone else not want Cindy to become Silk or is it just me? I like the character and would prefer this over spider Gwen happening, but I just think two spider people is enough right now.
Nah I think it’s fine imo 💙 Gwen has been used alot lately so it’s good another character gets the spotlight and more Recognition for people to see but we’ll see what happens 🙏🏻 I’m excited all the same for what they do
In this universe Doc Strange has never really needed a reason to team up or ask Peter for help But now The doors are open Also I think their doing the Superior Spider-Man story as well but I think they could pull a Spider-Man life story And have it be Miles who Gets his body stolen Otto probably wants Peter to suffer by taking his proteges body and making him feel how he felt. Betrayed it also would hurt Peter a lot more seeing this Happen To Miles and Norman probably is gonna want Peter to stay intact So he can make him suffer as well
I doubt they’d do the Superior storyline. For one, they made sure not to have any symbiote suits in MSM1 bc they wanted to save it for this one, but they put the Superior suit in this game; if they were doing that storyline next game, they’d likely follow the same principle and and save the suit for that one. For another, personally I really doubt they’d have enough time to set up, accomplish, and resolve that Doc Ock takeover in the space of one game. Unless maybe they establish the set up and maybe even takeover in a DLC before the next game
@@pio1483 Yeah I thought about that too but I really feel like it was because of the symbiote Abilities really fit the suits and I still think it could be Miles who gets his body taken
But, Insomniac spider was seen in the film walking across the many bridges in the main spider society lobby, so surely Miles knows about it as well; which then breaks the film because it centres around Miles not meaning to be Spider Man in any canon universe. Also imagine how Pissed off Miguel will be when he finds out three Spider People are in one universe haha
So we dont know exactly WHEN Peter finds out about Spider Society, its possible he’s been there since he found out and hasnt had a chance to tell Miles. It never says Miles isnt meant to be Spider-Man in any canon universe, just that specific one from the movie. And that theory is still off since Miles had other canon events, and neither his universe or Earth-42 started to collapse
Literally not true it was about THAT SPECIFIC MILES not supposed to be Spider-Man like Miguel said “ that spider wasn’t meant for you, if you hadn’t been bitten then your Peter would still be alive”
Wolverine is a prominent character in Web Of Shadows he gets taken over by a symbiote would be interesting if Insomniac has Wolverine tie into Spider-Man 2
The easiest reason why the avengers aren’t in New York is really because they’re off world avengers are just about always off of earth fighting in some crisis.
Mix the clone saga with this and have Otto make a clone body of Peter since his body is shutting down and he puts his mind in the clone. boom another spider person
My question is that why did Kraven attack and hunt those villains and also wouldn’t the Avengers go to New York City to help stop all those Symbiotes all over New York?
The Avengers honestly could be off Planet or In The Savage Land Or just on the other side of the world Just some examples Spider-Man also has quite the reputation so whatever there doing if they see what's happening they could be saying Spider-Man will take care of it and there's two now and the Kraven thing has been explained a lot in game and By the first reply 😭
If you think about it, the entire game takes place over what, a week? The entire symbiote shit was like what, 2 days max? I can totally believe the Avengers saw what was happening in New York and it was all over by the time they got home
Back during the clone saga, the first time Marvel did a symbiote invasion. The venom symbiote shrieked (due to Brock wanting the symbiote to leave him) and was like a beacon for other symbiote to come to earth. There was a page where some of the Avengers were taken by the symbiote, but neither Spider-Man or Scarlet Spider had to face the venomized heroes. So, some of the heroes in New York could have been taken in game, but Pete and Miles just didn't know and/or faced them cause the invasion was like two days at most, storywise.
The shadow of Otto's glasses makes the outline of the superior spider man eyes . I definitely think they're going to do some sort of superior spider man storyline
I actually hope Cindy doesn't beomce Silk, two Spider-People are enough and we already could possibly get Venom as a third Spider-Person. Besides focusing a 20 hour game on 3-4 protagonists would be a mess
@@markmagician2471 If it was a trilogy it would be a great ending But I think they'd send Miles off to an out of state college so it would just be Peter and Cindy
nah, the devs have confirmed miles is the mail spiderman in this universe, so again likely a way for Peter to go away with MJ and mayeb create a new silk story if shes in it, because the whole her being into peter clearly isnt gonna happen haha@@Gamecliparchives
6:42 The avengers do show up in other people's books, quite often actually. They've shown up in the X-Men, Inhumans, Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, you name it. What are you talking about?
5:04 this happens in the comics too when Peter needs help no one else isnt around best example when the Juggernaut was trying to kidnap Madam Webb and Spider-Man couldn't get no help
Yeah, after I made the video, I realized that it happens a lot more than I thought lol, a lot of times when Spidey asks for help, the heroes just happen to never be available
My thing is this: side quest reveals (Carnage, Chameleon, Possibly Miguel) are DLC teases and main story reveals (Superior Spider-Man, Green Goblin ((Red Goblin??)), and Silk) are teases for SM3
Silk and Peter always have Sx with each other😂😂 it got soo bad the writers stop adding her to the story 😂so ig in the insomniac world they made her young for a reason
One thing I want to add about the avengers not being in the game especially with an alien invasion. So I think that line from the first game about them being in the West Coast was referring to the Avengers game cause they were in the West coast in that game and since Spider-Man was a playable character in that game for PlayStation users, my guess is it was supposed to be the insomniac Spider-Man and it would’ve been a crossover putting the two in the same universe; but when the avengers game flopped insomniac wanted nothing to do with the avengers game and cancelled the crossover and the two being in the same universe. There’s not a lot of evidence to support this theory but I think it’s a valid one. Plus in the remastered version of the first game the line about the avengers in the west coast was removed and Spider-Man who was supposed to be playable for avengers in January of 2021 got delayed to December of that year and when he did his storyline was have finished in terms of cutscenes and gameplay missions, so could this have been because they had to change the Spider-Man in Avengers because insomniac changed their minds, cause they covered their tracks in the Spider-Man games by removing the line but left the tower in cause it’s cool of because they didn’t know if to redesign it or not
I pretty highly doubt they're gonna wait to use Carnage as one of the main villains in Spider-Man 3, or even just as a little side thing since Carnage is a headlining threat. They wouldnt make SM2 be about a symbiote threat and then make SM3 also be about a symbiote threat, but there are already symbiotes in SM2 so it would be much easier to make him a main threat of SM2 DLC. And the promise of Carnage would surely make the DLC more popular than a lesser known character. They havent really set anything else up in SM2 that would be appropriate for a DLC storyline besides Chameleon and Carnage. Green Goblin or Doc Ock's return would surely be reserved for a sequel that ties off a trilogy. It's possible Carnage and/or Chameleon could return in SM3 in a villain ensemble, but most likely they set up these characters the way they set up Black Cat and the Maggia in SM1, so they can appear in DLC that continues the story shortly after the events of the game. Chameleon is tied to Kraven and Carnage is tied to Venom so it only makes sense.
I dont think superior spider will be otto end game. Mainly because its an unlockable suit. We all wanted the symbiote suit in the first game but it wasnt optional in term of it having a bigger role in a laater game. So maybe otto plan is probably get his final revenge on norman
I don't think Carnage is going to be in the Sequal. I think it's more they're gonna put him in the DLC like they did with Blackcat giving her her own section.
I’m sorry to be annoying but Doc Ock doesn’t transfer his mind into Spider-man because he wants to prove he’s the better Spider-man he does it because it’s his final option as he was on deaths door transferring Peter into his body killing Peter. He starts to become Spider-Man because he enjoys the recognition but then it becomes more about responsibility and all that other stuff until they decided to drive his character into the side of a cliff
We did see Norman's personal lab in SM1, with that being how Miles got his powers, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to believe that's related to how Cindy gets her's
Not entirely sure why Insomniac decided to throw Cindy Moon into the mix. I mean... it'd definitely be cool to play as a female Spider person, but I think three is a bit much for these video games. Unless, of course, Peter is going to take more of a mentor role going forward... which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Temporarily taking time off? Sure. Permanent retirement? Dunno about that. It'd be a hard sell to couch Peter in favor of Cindy.
I bet in the third insomniac spiderman game, they will either show at the end of the game peter joining the spiderverse, or its gonna hint at it by him hopping through a portal, which could lead to a spiderman across the spiderverse videogame?
Would be crazy to see superheroes/super villains turned into venomized. Peter and miles are the only ones to save them with a little help from Silk or any other Spider variant
With the spider verse stuff I don’t think it’s our games version of spider man I think it’s just an alternate reality insomniac Spider-Man with events that are the exact same as ours but he instead gets recruited by Miguel. For the last point I highly doubt we get a superior Spider-Man game as the game would have to be rly long to be able to properly flesh out the storyline so I doubt they go that way
that's dumb, the movie literally called him 1048 and he was voiced by Lowenthal. Anyhow, this ain't the first time 1048 Peter was in the multiverse (Spider-Geddon) which the prequel comic of Spider-Man 2 refrences pretty explicitly
@@HighSlowTree Same for the other comic spider-men in the movie, as the scarlet spider is supposedly from earth 94, but since that earth already exists in the comics and this scarlet spider is clearly not the same as the one from earth 94 he is designated to earth 94b. Obviously this won't be an issue with insomniac spider-man as with all the crossovers hes been in, the writer of the video games (don't remember who, but just search this up) states that they're canon to the video games but knowing when it takes place can be confusing as the writer doesn't really state when these crossovers happen during the events of the 3 spider men games.
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also here's one that i've never seen anyone mention is that we DO actually see Mr. Moon before the end of the game in fact we first see him when Miles gets poisoned it's a very hard to notice thing but when we see Rio going in to the door theres a man with her in the EXACT same outfit as Mr. Moon we only see him fro mbehind but if you pay attention it's the same guy
Seriously the only thing I thought seeing Harry and wraith swing around like why doesn't Pete have a patent on his Webb swinging bro or his suit they just ripping him off. Let spider man be spiderman and make the others I dunno do like something different🤷♂️
If the next game is a Miles Morales centric game, then maybe Peter is missing because he’s involved in the Spider Verse. Maybe he shows up in the next Miles game, after joining the Spider Verse. Maybe they incorporate the Spider Verse in the next games somehow beyond a Spider Bot type of side quest.
Kinda hard to do the superior spiderman story line since scorpion is already dead so otto can't accidentally punch his jaw of to realise how much peter held back always
Honestly.. at least in the first game the Doctor Strange dialogue is an easter egg.. but I can totally see Mile's dialogue being more appropriate for in-universe like just not being in the know.. plus Felicia? She is a thief and is on the underbelly of the city being.. not a hero lol so it would make sense she would hear rumors of just.. some kinda artifact being in this mysterious building and go after it Questioning where the Avengers are? Yeah this is just one of those "Superman stays out of Gotham" tropes of it being a Spider-man game and they don't wanna bring in a lot of other heroes.. and it's not like before the MCU made comics way more popular.. back then they could pop up and it just be a cool thing, nowadays if they show up people will assume a lot more lol And I feel like the "they are never around" thing is also a nod to just it being a video game and again, they can't just casually show up without it being a big deal.. but honestly them having a lore reason of "they have existed for awhile already and just aren't in New York" kinda makes me now question.. where *are* they stationed typically in the Insomniac universe? Silk.. is it weird I think they could make it that the spider she gets bitten by is same as Miles? Just to keep with the "share a spider bite" part of the origin.. but like.. they probably won't give her electricity of course.. but maybe Peter will get to comment that he got the short end of the straw with powers lol (Mile's electricity and camouflage and then presumably Cindy's organic webs and maybe something else so she stands out with some flashy thing like Peter's tech/symbiote powers from this game) I doubt we would be getting Superior Spider-man since Otto still respects Peter and I doubt he would just wanna.. steal his body.. he isn't full blown megalomaniac as far as I know.. he still has some humanity and it'd be just weird if they pulled that in a third game (if Silk is involved too) since then it would almost be like introducing 2 new playable Spider people and that just seems like it would be too much if you had 3 total.. like having 2/3 being new styles of fighting, and none being the classic Spidey.. I doubt they would pull that... even if they do love tweaking origins and having their own continuity.. plus Otto didn't seem to be on his deathbed.. just tired and imprisoned BUT I do have an interesting idea... a side game like Miles' game... something that is in the interlude to do.. one of the many plot points they have set up from this game... like I know people may hate me for saying this but maybe handling Carnage in his own side game since.. this game was the dealing with symbiotes and it'd be weird to just have the very next main game just.. deal with another symbiote issue.. like we could even have Cindy start out much like Miles did in his game and then segue into an Insomniac Spider-man 3 (now honestly.. Carnage *is* a bit of a big thing to have Cindy deal with being fresh to the hero scene but I think they could work it out)
How about we solve the mystery of why Peter doesn't just give Harry the fucking Anti Venom Symbiote? Or why Rio's just back in the dating game only a year and a half after her husband fucking died? Or who the fuck hired Taskmaster?
@@giantmonkey28 dude, over the death of the father of your child? Some people take years just to get over a breakup, the fuck you mean. "Welp, it's been a year, time to find a new one" Jesus Christ.
i think canonically in Spider-man 2 the whole symbiote crisis only lasts for around a day or two max so theres a good chance that they got back to NYC just after the end of the crisis
i feel like superior while my favorite spiderman to ever exist next to ben and peter would be way to much to juggle since an "evil" spiderman just happened with the venom symbiote
I’m confused, is the free roam in the game after the post credit scene? You’d think that any mission where you go inside Miles’ would reference Cindy or her dad but I played the mission where you get all the Prowler starches, but nothing. I’m guessing free roam doesn’t exist in the campaign or something, and the Moon family is something in the main campaign, so idk.
The Avengers are actually helpful in the comics most notably Marvel Knights Spider-Man they (The Avengers) get Daredevil and The Fantastic Four to help Spider-Man with the Sinister Twelve. There’s other occasions where they helped Spider-Man fight the spider slayer in big time and in return of the Sinister Six (1990).
Actually, both the Spider-Verse movie and the Insomniac games are unconnected, and I’ll explain why. 1. Continuity when it comes to multiverse shenanigans and adapting source material is one hell of a headache. You think having a numerical filing system would be useful, but no. You get instances where in the comics the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon Spidey helps Miles Morales, but doesn’t know who he is. This would make sense, but in the season where Disney rebranded it into USM: Web Warriors and introduced Miles to the cast, they don’t know each other. So either this is a different Miles, or continuity could suck an egg. Something similar could be said with Into the Spider-Verse, where they establish everyone as their comic book universe designations (Peter B is 616, Miles is 1610, Gwen is 65, etc.) Normally this would be an open-shut case, but NOPE! In the 1610/Ultimates universe, Spidey dies at the hands of Green Goblin, not Kingpin. In Across the Spider-Verse we meet the Spider-Society, housed in Miguel O’Hara’s home of Nueva York. In the comics there is no Spider-Society. The 616/Main universe Peter never has a kid with MJ, and yadayadayada you get it. There’s also the small hiccup that we got MULTIPLE UNIVERSES CLAIMING ITSELF TO BE ANOTHER UNIVERSE. The MCU claims to be Earth-616, but it’s actually Earth-199999. There’s also the Spider-Verse Movie 616 with Peter B, but that can’t be because 616 is the comics universe where Peter doesn’t have Mayday. 2. In the movie Miguel’s AI (her name escapes me at the second) refers to 3 video game guys, one including my boi Lowenthal two Green Goblins. When Miguel’s AI says, “Another Video Game guy…” Lowenthal reacts with, “Are you referring to me?” It obviously is a joke, but that does open up a lot the question of why doesn’t the PS5 Spidey know he’s in a game and having an existential crisis? Look. I could go on and on, but I would be wasting my phone battery and everyone’s time. Apologies for all typos, my thumbs are enormous.
Maybe instead of the Superior Spider-Man story like folks suggest, I was thinking the Superior Octopus storyline instead since Otto still has his neurological disorder. And the Superior Octopus costume is not fully in the game, just a color swap of the Superior Spider-Man suit aka a reference
Did anyone notice when doing the photo mission w/ Peter, we took a pic of a guy with a table holding up a sign saying ”aliens aren’t in New Mexico they are in New York.” Loki came to ny with the chittari maybe?
It's already weird they're introducing Green Goblin so late in Spider-Man's career, I doubt they're going to make Peter actually Otto when Norman finally becomes the Goblin
Impossible, Taskmaster is too good to be tracked by Kraven as a simple prey, and he is good enough to escape at any time if his studies of his opponent are not enough to win Furthermore, he is an international assassin, the chances of him being in NY at the moment are 0 (he only appeared on the radar because he was there in the first game)
Silk will probably take Peter Parker's position as the second playable character. Peter will still be around with his Anti-Venom suit. I cant see them do 3 characters like GTA 5.
I don’t think we’ll see Superior for the same reason we didn’t get the black suit in SM1. If Insomniac was going to do Superior, we wouldn’t have gotten the suit as a skin in SM2
I don't think they'd do Superior Spider-Man, I think it'd hit the same story beats as the symbiote, and that another hostile takeover of Peter would seem a bit derivative.
True.
I think they’re gonna mix the clone saga and superior, having octavius clone Peter and put his brain in the clones body, maybe even wearing the white and green dr octopus suit with the mask
@@disrespect9376 I can see the concept of that working 100%, I just can't see it working in practice with what we've been giving from this universe so far, but that sounds like it'd be fun for a comic book run for 616 or something icl
superior octopus is better
If they did it I think it’d be with miles instead
I dont think Otto would reveal what their names are even if it wasnt Norman. He was only attacking Peter cause in his eyes its what he had to do but he does care for Peter and always will. Its why I dont see Superior Spider-Man happening
He wasnt lying in the first game when he said Peter's secret is safe with him
I agree he definitely wouldn't tell anybody else, but not because I think he still cares for peter, but because revealing peter's identity would mess with Otto's plan, if he does plan to have peter's identity revealed it would be when he's out of prison and can control the situation as it escalates, I don't think Otto still cares for peter because he blames him for his current situation, not just being behind bars but also taking his arms, which are invaluable to him, because of that most of the hate Otto held for Norman was transferred to Peter (in the first game Otto blamed Norman for a lot of the troubles he faced), he still hates Norman but less so than in the first game.
Also another factor that reduces the amount of hate Otto held for Norman was that he can relate to him now to an extent, because now both of their lives have been "ruined" by the Spider-Men.
I don't think they're gonna do Superior Spider Man for 2 reasons
#1: Insomniac stated that the reason they didn't include the Black Suit in the first game is that they wanted to devote time and focus to doing that suit, and the story around it, justice. Similarly I believe they said at one point (I think before the game came out) that it'd omit Miles suit because it was being saved for when Miles became Spider Man. With this in mind, the fact that the Superior suit is included in Spider Man 2 would, by established logic, suggest they don't see the need to save the Superior suit for the 3rd game, indicating that they don't intend to use the storyline.
#2: Spider-Man 2 gives us an epic, emotional battle between Peter and Miles because of the symbiote, from a gameplay perspective it would feel a little like just repeating the same formula to do Superior Spider-Man, just without Miles trying to reach out to him 'cause Peter isn't in there.
Well they obviously would create their own unique Superior Spider-Man suit. Otto created the Advanced Suit, so his Superior suit would be an updated version of that. They aren't going to use an unlockable suit in the actual canon story of the game.
i dont think its going to follow the same formula because if peter and otto were to switch minds, otto would have the memories of peter and understand why he does what he does. since otto is smart it would follow the story beats of what's the right thing to do vs whats the smartest thing to do. yes it may follow the kill vs spare rule. in this game we see the positive aspects of sparing a villain and giving them a second chance but what if this motif gets further pushed in spider-man 3 where you see mostly negative aspects of what sparing a life can do and how a second chance only allows them more opportunities to hurt people. also i dont beleive that peter parker would stay as peter parker since otto said it is going to be the final chapter. the final chapter he is refering to may be peter parker's story not miles, it would poetic if he took down the villian he helped create in the first game
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8:35 bro was NOT slick with that octopussy in the captions
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The only thing I think that makes it not too canon is that Peter would definitely try and help miles in ATSV rather than every other Spider-Man because he even wished he could’ve saved Jeff
Another reason ATSV’s story is hot garbage! Just about any Spider would help Miles, it’s Spider-Man’s whole thing to help everyone he can.
Wtf no? He literally let may die in order to save everyone else he’d be neutral at best
@@pio1483 I feel like the reeason why almost every Spidey is on Miguel's side is the information given to them (plus Miguel's experiences with canon events). All of them were told that if these events were prevented then everyone within a universe would be killed and so they are presented with a moral dillema, save the one person you care about or save everyone else. Due to the selfless nature of Spider-Man as a whole, I think they chose to save everyone else. Plus it gives them comfort knowing that the suffering they are going through and the loved ones they lost ultimately serve a greater purpose. Deep down, I feel like every Spider-Man wants to help Miles but they can't risk something so great.
@@disrespect9376 wtf yes? Spider-Man helps everyone he can, not that he tries to save every single one whether the math says he should or not. By the math alone saving the city instead of just May is exactly what most variants Spider-Man should and would do, bc they’re saving more people and they know some sacrifices have to be made. Especially as May is willing.
But, what a Spider-Man would never do, is specifically choose not to save someone that they have the power to save bc some retard tells them the story has to go that way or their dimension will end. That’s a dumb plot element to begin with, but especially so bc most Spider-Men would not go along with that bs.
@@filomazing25_20 sure, but it’s a retarded story piece. The reaction works in the story, sure, but only barely-most Spiders would not go along with that easily, and a lone Miles variant wouldn’t be the only one. To go with Miguel’s idea is much too callous for Spider-Man
Seeing as how Insomniac didn’t put the symbiote suit in the first game, purely because they were planning on using it in the sequel, I doubt they’ll do the Superior Spider-Man arch in the next game, since the Superior Spider-Man suit is in this game
Considering the Superior Spider-Man suit is unlockable in this game, I doubt it will be a storyline in the sequel.
I'm still dying to know who the hell hired Taskmaster to study and recruit Peter.
I figure it must’ve been Kraven himself.
1) We see in the map in game that Taskmaster is at least on their radar, he’s known by the Hunters. 2) He doesn’t hunt Taskmaster, or if he does we never hear about it, which to me makes it seem they’re on good terms, or at least not too worried about each other. 3) Kraven seems to have already made up his mind that Peter isn’t worth his time as a hunt, which suggests he had prior intel, that he could’ve gotten from Taskmaster
@pio5119 I thought that at first too, but it doesn't seem likely. They would've at least mentioned it at some point. As of now, my best guess is A.I.M., which is kinda lame since every time TM shows up in media, he's always working for them.
One theory says that it was Nick Fury who hired him, to see if Spiderman would be a good addition to The Avengers
@@pio1483 that's a damn good theory, seems like the most likely explanation as of now.
I think it's the avengers Spider-Man is in the avengers in many forms of media and taskmaster does say "they pay Six figures" It can mean just money but they're are six people in the avengers cap,hulk,iron man,black widow,thor,and hawk eye but that could only be just a coincidence
To me I honestly think it's the avengers
The Black Cat mission was my favorite mission of the game so far, I loved how they tied Spider-Man to a new character to the universe especially such a magically strange one.
in regards to Point 4: I feel like you forgot that the sidemissions in the first game led up to the DLC missions. The Flame and Unidentified Target missions set up the DLC, not the third game. the 3rd game set up was in the main story, so Cindy's set up will be in the DLC, or a mid-game like Miles' standalone title, if not in the 3rd game.
I think Chameleon is more likely to be DLC than the continuation of "the Flame" storyline. Evidently, they're going to introduce Carnage. And if Venom deserved a spotlight in the main campaign, I feel like Carnage does as well. It'd be difficult to REALLY do Carnage justice in some DLC packs. If Insomniac is even doing DLC this time around.
@@callmeinsteadCarnage should be a three part DLC like Hammerhead. Carnage should not be the main villain. We just did a whole game about Symbioites we don’t need another. Green Goblin is clearly going to be the big villain of SM3.
this game was a definite 10/10 for me personally Definitely love all the world and universe building they’re doing with it, daredevil and carnage DLCS are both absolute musts in my opinion.
I don’t think they’re gonna do superior spider man simply because the skin is in spider man 2, if they had plans to do superior spider man they would have kept it out just like they did with the black suit in the first game
Man what the fuck happened to taskmaster
Fell off a bridge
In the heal the world foundation a scientist talks about working with bees. I think that means Swarm is going to be in the next game
To add on to the idea that Doctor Strange isn't well known within this universe, on Jameson's podcast he says, "If magic is indeed real, then we must hope upon hope that someone out there is using it for good-" which basically confirms that the masses are not aware of Strange's existence.
Does anyone else not want Cindy to become Silk or is it just me? I like the character and would prefer this over spider Gwen happening, but I just think two spider people is enough right now.
Bout to start jumping the shit outta villains
It's a good way to get female suits
Nah I think it’s fine imo 💙 Gwen has been used alot lately so it’s good another character gets the spotlight and more Recognition for people to see but we’ll see what happens 🙏🏻 I’m excited all the same for what they do
I agree. Don't want any more of these new kids.
@@megamandrn001 I guess understandable lol but I hope it’s done well,all we can hope atm💙
In this universe Doc Strange has never really needed a reason to team up or ask Peter for help But now The doors are open Also I think their doing the Superior Spider-Man story as well but I think they could pull a Spider-Man life story And have it be Miles who Gets his body stolen Otto probably wants Peter to suffer by taking his proteges body and making him feel how he felt. Betrayed it also would hurt Peter a lot more seeing this Happen To Miles and Norman probably is gonna want Peter to stay intact So he can make him suffer as well
I doubt they’d do the Superior storyline. For one, they made sure not to have any symbiote suits in MSM1 bc they wanted to save it for this one, but they put the Superior suit in this game; if they were doing that storyline next game, they’d likely follow the same principle and and save the suit for that one. For another, personally I really doubt they’d have enough time to set up, accomplish, and resolve that Doc Ock takeover in the space of one game. Unless maybe they establish the set up and maybe even takeover in a DLC before the next game
@@pio1483 Yeah I thought about that too but I really feel like it was because of the symbiote Abilities really fit the suits and I still think it could be Miles who gets his body taken
@@jajo3203 hadn’t thought about Miles being taken, that could be interesting. Might add some much needed depth to his character
@@pio1483 Define depth
@@pio1483Miles has as much depth as Peter? Maybe not as many comic books, but that’s pretty based logic.
But, Insomniac spider was seen in the film walking across the many bridges in the main spider society lobby, so surely Miles knows about it as well; which then breaks the film because it centres around Miles not meaning to be Spider Man in any canon universe.
Also imagine how Pissed off Miguel will be when he finds out three Spider People are in one universe haha
So we dont know exactly WHEN Peter finds out about Spider Society, its possible he’s been there since he found out and hasnt had a chance to tell Miles.
It never says Miles isnt meant to be Spider-Man in any canon universe, just that specific one from the movie. And that theory is still off since Miles had other canon events, and neither his universe or Earth-42 started to collapse
Literally not true it was about THAT SPECIFIC MILES not supposed to be Spider-Man like Miguel said “ that spider wasn’t meant for you, if you hadn’t been bitten then your Peter would still be alive”
Wolverine is a prominent character in Web Of Shadows he gets taken over by a symbiote would be interesting if Insomniac has Wolverine tie into Spider-Man 2
The easiest reason why the avengers aren’t in New York is really because they’re off world avengers are just about always off of earth fighting in some crisis.
Maybe instead of taking over Peter's mind, Otto just makes a Spider suit for himself, becoming Superior Spider-Man.
Mix the clone saga with this and have Otto make a clone body of Peter since his body is shutting down and he puts his mind in the clone. boom another spider person
orrrrrr otto takes over miles ??
My question is that why did Kraven attack and hunt those villains and also wouldn’t the Avengers go to New York City to help stop all those Symbiotes all over New York?
why is that a question it’s stated obviously in the game plenty of times, he’s hunting them because he wants a worthy opponent to kill him
@@strand2530that's why he didn't care about miles
kraven hunting them is literally the plot of the game
The Avengers honestly could be off Planet or In The Savage Land Or just on the other side of the world Just some examples Spider-Man also has quite the reputation so whatever there doing if they see what's happening they could be saying Spider-Man will take care of it and there's two now and the Kraven thing has been explained a lot in game and By the first reply 😭
If you think about it, the entire game takes place over what, a week? The entire symbiote shit was like what, 2 days max? I can totally believe the Avengers saw what was happening in New York and it was all over by the time they got home
Back during the clone saga, the first time Marvel did a symbiote invasion. The venom symbiote shrieked (due to Brock wanting the symbiote to leave him) and was like a beacon for other symbiote to come to earth. There was a page where some of the Avengers were taken by the symbiote, but neither Spider-Man or Scarlet Spider had to face the venomized heroes. So, some of the heroes in New York could have been taken in game, but Pete and Miles just didn't know and/or faced them cause the invasion was like two days at most, storywise.
I agree Spider-Man 2 definitely happens before ATSV.
The shadow of Otto's glasses makes the outline of the superior spider man eyes . I definitely think they're going to do some sort of superior spider man storyline
I actually hope Cindy doesn't beomce Silk, two Spider-People are enough and we already could possibly get Venom as a third Spider-Person. Besides focusing a 20 hour game on 3-4 protagonists would be a mess
I think Peter will get killed in the 3rd game
@@markmagician2471 If it was a trilogy it would be a great ending
But I think they'd send Miles off to an out of state college so it would just be Peter and Cindy
@@Gamecliparchives What Peter trains Cindy if she has powers?
nah, the devs have confirmed miles is the mail spiderman in this universe, so again likely a way for Peter to go away with MJ and mayeb create a new silk story if shes in it, because the whole her being into peter clearly isnt gonna happen haha@@Gamecliparchives
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6:42 The avengers do show up in other people's books, quite often actually. They've shown up in the X-Men, Inhumans, Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, you name it. What are you talking about?
I doubt they'll do the Superior storyline, considering the Superior suit is an unlockable suit in the game.
Yes, it's as if the developers told us: "take it, because this will never be a story we will tell"
Its not exactly the first interaction with any other marvel character because in the intro to SM1 theres a note mentioning reid richards
Love this video and love the new Spider-Man two game
finally someone talking about how fucking sick it is that dr strange was in the game
I love the commentary and the ideas, amazing video! Keep it up!
I wouldn’t take what Peter and miles state in the first game serious Peter had said that sandman was possibly trapped in a small veil
5:04 this happens in the comics too when Peter needs help no one else isnt around best example when the Juggernaut was trying to kidnap Madam Webb and Spider-Man couldn't get no help
Yeah, after I made the video, I realized that it happens a lot more than I thought lol, a lot of times when Spidey asks for help, the heroes just happen to never be available
My thing is this: side quest reveals (Carnage, Chameleon, Possibly Miguel) are DLC teases and main story reveals (Superior Spider-Man, Green Goblin ((Red Goblin??)), and Silk) are teases for SM3
Silk and Peter always have Sx with each other😂😂 it got soo bad the writers stop adding her to the story 😂so ig in the insomniac world they made her young for a reason
One thing I want to add about the avengers not being in the game especially with an alien invasion. So I think that line from the first game about them being in the West Coast was referring to the Avengers game cause they were in the West coast in that game and since Spider-Man was a playable character in that game for PlayStation users, my guess is it was supposed to be the insomniac Spider-Man and it would’ve been a crossover putting the two in the same universe; but when the avengers game flopped insomniac wanted nothing to do with the avengers game and cancelled the crossover and the two being in the same universe. There’s not a lot of evidence to support this theory but I think it’s a valid one. Plus in the remastered version of the first game the line about the avengers in the west coast was removed and Spider-Man who was supposed to be playable for avengers in January of 2021 got delayed to December of that year and when he did his storyline was have finished in terms of cutscenes and gameplay missions, so could this have been because they had to change the Spider-Man in Avengers because insomniac changed their minds, cause they covered their tracks in the Spider-Man games by removing the line but left the tower in cause it’s cool of because they didn’t know if to redesign it or not
I pretty highly doubt they're gonna wait to use Carnage as one of the main villains in Spider-Man 3, or even just as a little side thing since Carnage is a headlining threat. They wouldnt make SM2 be about a symbiote threat and then make SM3 also be about a symbiote threat, but there are already symbiotes in SM2 so it would be much easier to make him a main threat of SM2 DLC. And the promise of Carnage would surely make the DLC more popular than a lesser known character.
They havent really set anything else up in SM2 that would be appropriate for a DLC storyline besides Chameleon and Carnage. Green Goblin or Doc Ock's return would surely be reserved for a sequel that ties off a trilogy.
It's possible Carnage and/or Chameleon could return in SM3 in a villain ensemble, but most likely they set up these characters the way they set up Black Cat and the Maggia in SM1, so they can appear in DLC that continues the story shortly after the events of the game. Chameleon is tied to Kraven and Carnage is tied to Venom so it only makes sense.
I dont think superior spider will be otto end game. Mainly because its an unlockable suit.
We all wanted the symbiote suit in the first game but it wasnt optional in term of it having a bigger role in a laater game. So maybe otto plan is probably get his final revenge on norman
I don't think Carnage is going to be in the Sequal. I think it's more they're gonna put him in the DLC like they did with Blackcat giving her her own section.
Same, because carnage would tie into the symbiote stuff of this game.
I think that ‘the final chapter’ Otto is talking about might be him revealing he’s been pulling the strings to Norman
Tbh I thought they would use carnage and chameleon for dlc rather the in the next game
they are most likely
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I hate how Silk got her powers
and that Bunker Bullsh"t
Not likely to happen in this universe
I’m sorry to be annoying but Doc Ock doesn’t transfer his mind into Spider-man because he wants to prove he’s the better Spider-man he does it because it’s his final option as he was on deaths door transferring Peter into his body killing Peter. He starts to become Spider-Man because he enjoys the recognition but then it becomes more about responsibility and all that other stuff until they decided to drive his character into the side of a cliff
We did see Norman's personal lab in SM1, with that being how Miles got his powers, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to believe that's related to how Cindy gets her's
i feel like they going setting up red goblin
What makes you think red goblin?
green goblin and carnage are both teased
@@bigmonkeyshaha sure but I’d be shocked if they gave a symbiote to Osborn. Idk though, it’d certainly be a bold choice, could be cool
Not entirely sure why Insomniac decided to throw Cindy Moon into the mix. I mean... it'd definitely be cool to play as a female Spider person, but I think three is a bit much for these video games.
Unless, of course, Peter is going to take more of a mentor role going forward... which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Temporarily taking time off? Sure. Permanent retirement? Dunno about that. It'd be a hard sell to couch Peter in favor of Cindy.
My bet for Cindy is that they do a Miles again and set her up in DLC then give her a small filler game and then make her fully playable in SM3
I bet in the third insomniac spiderman game, they will either show at the end of the game peter joining the spiderverse, or its gonna hint at it by him hopping through a portal, which could lead to a spiderman across the spiderverse videogame?
Would be crazy to see superheroes/super villains turned into venomized. Peter and miles are the only ones to save them with a little help from Silk or any other Spider variant
I think Carnage is going to be the main villain of the DLC
With the spider verse stuff I don’t think it’s our games version of spider man I think it’s just an alternate reality insomniac Spider-Man with events that are the exact same as ours but he instead gets recruited by Miguel.
For the last point I highly doubt we get a superior Spider-Man game as the game would have to be rly long to be able to properly flesh out the storyline so I doubt they go that way
that's dumb, the movie literally called him 1048 and he was voiced by Lowenthal.
Anyhow, this ain't the first time 1048 Peter was in the multiverse (Spider-Geddon) which the prequel comic of Spider-Man 2 refrences pretty explicitly
@@HighSlowTree Same for the other comic spider-men in the movie, as the scarlet spider is supposedly from earth 94, but since that earth already exists in the comics and this scarlet spider is clearly not the same as the one from earth 94 he is designated to earth 94b. Obviously this won't be an issue with insomniac spider-man as with all the crossovers hes been in, the writer of the video games (don't remember who, but just search this up) states that they're canon to the video games but knowing when it takes place can be confusing as the writer doesn't really state when these crossovers happen during the events of the 3 spider men games.
@kaishajacobye this doesn't work since there's nothing contradicting the games stop coping
@@HighSlowTree i literally just said this doesn't affect insomniac spider-man's universe. read the whole comment
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also here's one that i've never seen anyone mention is that we DO actually see Mr. Moon before the end of the game in fact we first see him when Miles gets poisoned it's a very hard to notice thing but when we see Rio going in to the door theres a man with her in the EXACT same outfit as Mr. Moon we only see him fro mbehind but if you pay attention it's the same guy
Seriously the only thing I thought seeing Harry and wraith swing around like why doesn't Pete have a patent on his Webb swinging bro or his suit they just ripping him off. Let spider man be spiderman and make the others I dunno do like something different🤷♂️
If the next game is a Miles Morales centric game, then maybe Peter is missing because he’s involved in the Spider Verse. Maybe he shows up in the next Miles game, after joining the Spider Verse. Maybe they incorporate the Spider Verse in the next games somehow beyond a Spider Bot type of side quest.
Kinda hard to do the superior spiderman story line since scorpion is already dead so otto can't accidentally punch his jaw of to realise how much peter held back always
Honestly.. at least in the first game the Doctor Strange dialogue is an easter egg.. but I can totally see Mile's dialogue being more appropriate for in-universe like just not being in the know.. plus Felicia? She is a thief and is on the underbelly of the city being.. not a hero lol so it would make sense she would hear rumors of just.. some kinda artifact being in this mysterious building and go after it
Questioning where the Avengers are? Yeah this is just one of those "Superman stays out of Gotham" tropes of it being a Spider-man game and they don't wanna bring in a lot of other heroes.. and it's not like before the MCU made comics way more popular.. back then they could pop up and it just be a cool thing, nowadays if they show up people will assume a lot more lol
And I feel like the "they are never around" thing is also a nod to just it being a video game and again, they can't just casually show up without it being a big deal.. but honestly them having a lore reason of "they have existed for awhile already and just aren't in New York" kinda makes me now question.. where *are* they stationed typically in the Insomniac universe?
Silk.. is it weird I think they could make it that the spider she gets bitten by is same as Miles? Just to keep with the "share a spider bite" part of the origin.. but like.. they probably won't give her electricity of course.. but maybe Peter will get to comment that he got the short end of the straw with powers lol (Mile's electricity and camouflage and then presumably Cindy's organic webs and maybe something else so she stands out with some flashy thing like Peter's tech/symbiote powers from this game)
I doubt we would be getting Superior Spider-man since Otto still respects Peter and I doubt he would just wanna.. steal his body.. he isn't full blown megalomaniac as far as I know.. he still has some humanity and it'd be just weird if they pulled that in a third game (if Silk is involved too) since then it would almost be like introducing 2 new playable Spider people and that just seems like it would be too much if you had 3 total.. like having 2/3 being new styles of fighting, and none being the classic Spidey.. I doubt they would pull that... even if they do love tweaking origins and having their own continuity.. plus Otto didn't seem to be on his deathbed.. just tired and imprisoned
BUT I do have an interesting idea... a side game like Miles' game... something that is in the interlude to do.. one of the many plot points they have set up from this game... like I know people may hate me for saying this but maybe handling Carnage in his own side game since.. this game was the dealing with symbiotes and it'd be weird to just have the very next main game just.. deal with another symbiote issue.. like we could even have Cindy start out much like Miles did in his game and then segue into an Insomniac Spider-man 3 (now honestly.. Carnage *is* a bit of a big thing to have Cindy deal with being fresh to the hero scene but I think they could work it out)
I think Cindy's origin was changed so Insomniac wouldn't have to animate the segs scenes for her and Peter
How about we solve the mystery of why Peter doesn't just give Harry the fucking Anti Venom Symbiote?
Or why Rio's just back in the dating game only a year and a half after her husband fucking died?
Or who the fuck hired Taskmaster?
What’s wrong with Rio dating, Jeff ain’t coming back anytime soon
@@giantmonkey28 it's the fuckin amount of time between, that's what's wrong with it
@@84everfan90 yeah, over a year that’s plenty of tkme
@@giantmonkey28 dude, over the death of the father of your child? Some people take years just to get over a breakup, the fuck you mean. "Welp, it's been a year, time to find a new one" Jesus Christ.
@@84everfan90 dating someone else would help her, staying alone raising her son for years wouldnt
Damn this was a really good video we need more unsolved mysteries from Spider-Man like where Eddie Brock or Gwen Stacy
A lot of people are saying that Cindy already has her powers, and intihar hinted at it for the next game or DLC,
If you ask me, I think chameleon is going to be the villain of silk's probable standalone game
An Insomniac Dr.Strange game would go so hard
A Miguel looking for Peter dlc would be sick
"Doctor Octopussy"
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i think canonically in Spider-man 2 the whole symbiote crisis only lasts for around a day or two max so theres a good chance that they got back to NYC just after the end of the crisis
I mostly excited about Silk and Gren Gorblin making an appearance
Gren Gorblin
Technically he had to know him because in the movie he had the advanced 1.0 suit in the movie
i feel like superior while my favorite spiderman to ever exist next to ben and peter would be way to much to juggle since an "evil" spiderman just happened with the venom symbiote
8:30 subtitles say doctor octo who?
I’m confused, is the free roam in the game after the post credit scene? You’d think that any mission where you go inside Miles’ would reference Cindy or her dad but I played the mission where you get all the Prowler starches, but nothing. I’m guessing free roam doesn’t exist in the campaign or something, and the Moon family is something in the main campaign, so idk.
My theory is carnage and chameleon are gonna be dlc, there we’ll probably see silk stuff happen like miles in city that never sleeps
The Avengers are actually helpful in the comics most notably Marvel Knights Spider-Man they (The Avengers) get Daredevil and The Fantastic Four to help Spider-Man with the Sinister Twelve.
There’s other occasions where they helped Spider-Man fight the spider slayer in big time and in return of the Sinister Six (1990).
Actually, both the Spider-Verse movie and the Insomniac games are unconnected, and I’ll explain why.
1. Continuity when it comes to multiverse shenanigans and adapting source material is one hell of a headache. You think having a numerical filing system would be useful, but no. You get instances where in the comics the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon Spidey helps Miles Morales, but doesn’t know who he is. This would make sense, but in the season where Disney rebranded it into USM: Web Warriors and introduced Miles to the cast, they don’t know each other. So either this is a different Miles, or continuity could suck an egg. Something similar could be said with Into the Spider-Verse, where they establish everyone as their comic book universe designations (Peter B is 616, Miles is 1610, Gwen is 65, etc.) Normally this would be an open-shut case, but NOPE! In the 1610/Ultimates universe, Spidey dies at the hands of Green Goblin, not Kingpin. In Across the Spider-Verse we meet the Spider-Society, housed in Miguel O’Hara’s home of Nueva York. In the comics there is no Spider-Society. The 616/Main universe Peter never has a kid with MJ, and yadayadayada you get it. There’s also the small hiccup that we got MULTIPLE UNIVERSES CLAIMING ITSELF TO BE ANOTHER UNIVERSE. The MCU claims to be Earth-616, but it’s actually Earth-199999. There’s also the Spider-Verse Movie 616 with Peter B, but that can’t be because 616 is the comics universe where Peter doesn’t have Mayday.
2. In the movie Miguel’s AI (her name escapes me at the second) refers to 3 video game guys, one including my boi Lowenthal two Green Goblins. When Miguel’s AI says, “Another Video Game guy…” Lowenthal reacts with, “Are you referring to me?” It obviously is a joke, but that does open up a lot the question of why doesn’t the PS5 Spidey know he’s in a game and having an existential crisis?
Look. I could go on and on, but I would be wasting my phone battery and everyone’s time. Apologies for all typos, my thumbs are enormous.
Otto is trying piss Norman off 😂
Maybe instead of the Superior Spider-Man story like folks suggest, I was thinking the Superior Octopus storyline instead since Otto still has his neurological disorder. And the Superior Octopus costume is not fully in the game, just a color swap of the Superior Spider-Man suit aka a reference
In across the spider verse you can see Ganke playing Spider-Man 2
I suspect the follow up for Doc Ock will be the DLC, and not in the next full game.
Yea, it’s not like Peter was making a joke
Peter was definitely joking
Dr Strange may not have even gone through his origin yet in this world.
It would be cool to do multiple stories through the dlc if they could this time, across the Spiderverse dlc, carnage dlc
Did anyone notice when doing the photo mission w/ Peter, we took a pic of a guy with a table holding up a sign saying ”aliens aren’t in New Mexico they are in New York.” Loki came to ny with the chittari maybe?
It's already weird they're introducing Green Goblin so late in Spider-Man's career, I doubt they're going to make Peter actually Otto when Norman finally becomes the Goblin
So happy im not the only one that thinks Superior Spider-Man could be a thing.
Another hero does show up in the game: Dr Foster who works at the EMF is the hero Goliath/Black Goliath
I thought that but it might not be him
Strange and Peter are linked by their creators. It’s why raimi referenced him aswell and later was interested in directing a strange movie.
Steve Ditko that is 😀
So was Taskmaster hunted by Kraven because he was on the radar at the beginning of the game
Impossible, Taskmaster is too good to be tracked by Kraven as a simple prey, and he is good enough to escape at any time if his studies of his opponent are not enough to win
Furthermore, he is an international assassin, the chances of him being in NY at the moment are 0 (he only appeared on the radar because he was there in the first game)
If this game took place before across the spider verse, that would explain why/how Ganke is playing it in that one scene
I thought that one of the side missions implied that Kraven had killed chameleon so I would have thought he wouldnt be in the third game surely
Didn’t someone watch Spiderman swing away from the penthouse ?
Silk will probably take Peter Parker's position as the second playable character. Peter will still be around with his Anti-Venom suit. I cant see them do 3 characters like GTA 5.
I don’t think we’ll see Superior for the same reason we didn’t get the black suit in SM1. If Insomniac was going to do Superior, we wouldn’t have gotten the suit as a skin in SM2
maybe instead of being bit by the same spider as Peter, Cindy was bitten by the same spider as Miles
There's also the thing that Miles also meets Delilah too so the question is still where is 1048 Miles in Spiderverse
Perhaps Peter is helping on the multiversal side while Miles focuses on their earth
Honestly that’s something that kind of bothers me about the spiderverse movies, the idea that there are zero other miles variants is just so weird
carnage is already gonna be the first dlc they release for this game.. idk about cindy moon.. maybe the next game, but thats gonna be years from now.
Do you guys remember dat old spiderman games where doctor octavio fuse whit carnage in the end of the game.
My guess is that we’re gonna get another interqual game like Miles Morales. That’s where Silk and maybe even Carnage will debut.
Doctor octopussy 💀 💀 ☠️
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