9:03 "Feels like the trailer it pushing the truck around" "not at all" Proceeds to go a foot over the lane to the right then goes over into the left lane.
Total success! Zero bad. It’s the most versatile Jeep ever made. It’s a Jeep truck leaning more towards Jeep than truck. I have the Gladiator Overland with 3:73.1 and 35’s. It is the best mid sized 4x4 I have ever owned. Far better than the 2020 Toyota TRD I had !!! Could NOT be happier ! My Gladiator is also 2020 with 31000 miles ! Ps. I have a No-Bo 168 off road camper trailer. Perfect setup !!!
So ROman says it feels like the trailer is pushing the truck around and Andre says it's not while the video clip shows Andre failing to maintain his lane and smoke coming from the brakes... I think Roman was right.
Agreed. Although I think too much speed and towing at the limit was the cause. I gave this video of thumbs down because I wanted to hear more about these debility the how did the front end feel, was the steering light? Etc. More towing stuff not BS competitions.
people comparing this to a full size truck is stupid. its a midsize truck and pulls damn well for its size and compared to other trucks in its segment. you don't buy a gladiator for a work horse. you buy it to go off road, have a convertible fun vehicle, and to top it off it can tow a boat or other recreational things. Especially with the max tow package with 7650 lbs towing. NOT TO MENTION, they are pulling 7000 lbs up a damn mountain in thin air. this truck performed phenomenal for a mid size truck. don't be a hater for the sake of being a hater.
Andre was also letting the truck figure out which gear to descend in. Normally without a dedicated tow/haul mode, you would manually lock it in a lower gear for engine braking. The manual transmission would probably have done better downhill, but would've probably smoked the clutch going up.
Andre says "it feels pretty stable" video at 9:15 shows the Jeep using three lanes multiple times in a row ... I know the Gladiator is more about a do it all Jeep pickup, but using like this as a replacement for a full size pickup looks scary in this video to me.
Its not a full size truck.. its not going to perform like a fullsize truck. I still like it. I still want it. But i want a diesel and manual. And a WAYYYYYYYY LOWER price
Here's my take on the gladiator and why I justify buying one, I do more off-roading then I do towing, although I have a bass boat and other toys that I like to use and a truck would be nice to tow them with, which this truck can do every once in a while and will have no problem doing it. I enjoy the ride of the jeep and am very confident with its 4x4 capabilities, and can tow SOME toys if I need it. This truck is more of an overlanding rig then anything, which is why I got one. I don't mind TFL testing it like a truck, as this is what its advertised as, I just hope everyone understands that you're not gonna out tow a tacoma or colorado, but you will likely out perform the competition with the 4x4 capabilities, with the ability to tow small toys for camping and hunting trips.
Very astute take! I regularly tow at 4,600-6,500 lbs 26’ travel trailer, with my 2019 Colorado Crew Cab 4x4, V6, with more ease than that, of course I’ve never driven over the Ike, yet. But all over the White and Green Mountains of New England and Smokey Mountains of Tennessee, N. Carolina and VA.
American Sniper that’s such a typical response from a Hillary-supporting millennial lol. I bring up a valid point about you burning down the forest to prove how macho you are and that is what you come up with.
This test turned out exactly as I expected. The Gladiator was being shoved down the hill by the "max load" trailer and struggled trying to drag the weight back up the hill. I don't think this test proved as much as all it demonstrated was a "struggling Jeep" operating on the edge of all safety considerations. A 5000 pound load would have been better as then we could have truly compared the Gladiator Rubicon to the rest of the midsize trucks in Ike Gauntlet testing.
Would be very cool if you guys had a data logger to show the engine/trans temp and oil pressure graphs. If it could map out how many times it shifted that would be awesome also but would love to see those graphs
Actually, Andy, it didn't pull it up the mountain just fine. It was all over the road, crossing the lines on both sides, bad enough to get a ticket for failing to maintain lane if a cop had been there to witness it. That's just sad. The downhill braking was fairly impressive though.
I will put it into perspective for you. A truck that can tow on occasion and can off road better than most, but you wouldn't want to buy it as a regular tow pig.
jd5179 well if we’re being honest the main purpose of this vehicle is not to be towing constantly, especially much over 5000lbs. Its a Jeep with more cargo room.
Its not built to use as a tow truck,an off road truck that can tow if needed ! What I find is laughable is the 12 year old new Ranger that is more than a 1/2 ton truck lol..
@@01trsmar You don't consider it negligent for a mfg to put towing ratings like that on a rig and have none of the safety equipment to back those #s up?
@@scottleggejr nope, since certain states don't seem to understand that properly installing a high quality brake controller and frame mounted hitch bumper is just as good or in some cases better than buying a "tow package" consisting of a marginal at best receiver and a china-tier electric brake controller
@@ghost-jesus I hear what you're saying but I consider it negligent... This vehicle strikes me as FCA making a 'jeep with a bed' instead of designing and competing in the mid-size truck market. They forgot a few key pieces of the 'truck' aspect.
The suspension may be capable of handling 7000 lb trailers, but not the motor and drivetrain. Needs a diesel or Hemi, programmed trans, and proper towing package...
The diesel will be the only engine anyone will recommend for towing. Its clear the gasoline engine struggled badly. Its an OK engine for a truck that size but not for towing an additional 7000 pounds around!
I don’t see anyone in these comments acknowledging the mountain they are towing over. If they are not lying about how steep it is, the Jeep did great. This is the worst it will ever perform.
@@ge99ne This. Everyone is talking like they did this test on some gentle slope. This is the Ike Gauntlet. It's the steepest stretch of downhill road available. This extra-long Wrangler just handled that with a 7,000 lb trailer behind it. I'm not seeing a big problem here. Nobody is buying this as a hauling rig when they can get a 3/4-1 ton truck for that. What this proved is that it will _more_ than handle the loads and roads people are _actually_ going to put it up against.
Basically it proved what everyone should already know is that it shouldn’t be towing 7000 lbs just like any other midsize shouldn’t be. Especially if you live in a hilly or mountainous region. Maybe 5000 lbs. for the cost of these vehicles it should come with a brake controller and a tow haul mode. I have a hard time believing the trans is reading load. If that’s the case why do any trucks have tow haul mode
Alan Bowers I’m guessing you are a truck guy. It proves that manufacturers rate their vehicles higher than they should. I actually believe if you don’t have the rubicon a properly equipped gladiator says up to 7600. You watched it screaming up the Ike with 7000 so you think another 600 is ok. No but they say you can. We have an 18 wrangler rubicon same motor and trans, obviously different frame but it produces same power and there is no chance it has enough torque and power to be towing that weight. Maybe one time to help someone. Again I’m not beating up the gladiator I think it’s a wonderful truck. Im just being a realist
You bring up a good point. It is two different worlds towing out west at elevation with strong winds. Manufacturers should maybe give two different specs on their trucks. One for east of the Mississippi and another for west of the Mississippi.
The entire Jeep community: 'Can you add 10 inches to the cargo area and have a v8 option. Literally nothing else please' Jeep: 'Ok, so we basically put a jeep body on a v6 only, with leafsprings, half ton pickup chasis' Jeep customers: (visibly confused) 'So..hey..that's not..' Jeep: 'Slaps customers' Jeep customers: (Crying and paying $60k) 'Well, I guess it does say Jeep''
I have watched several of your videos and think you guys do a great job. I have a Gladiator, purchased my Rubicon in September , trading in my 16 unlimited 75 th anniversary . This is my 13 th new jeep product and other than my 08 Commander Overland, I think it does a decent job towing. I haven't towed more than 5500 lbs but compared to the 5 speed slushbox in the 16 , the 8 speed is a great improvement. In upstate NY we don't encounter the elevation as in the video, but if you're not in a rush it will get the job done. Its a Jeep thing !
7k rating but no tow haul mode or brake controller; not sure how they got away with that tow rating...I don’t care what size engine these midsized trucks have they shouldn’t be allowed to tow more the 5k....At some point the trailer is driving the truck not the other way around
And people have done it for years in what would today be considered mid size trucks with no "tow mode", no trailer brakes, and in many cases *gasp* no weight distribution hitch with minimal issues, its called operator skill, something that seems to be on the decline these days.
Except it every midsize truck from the last 30 years of had a tow haul mode button on the end of the shifter or on the dash somewhere including the four-cylinder automatic transmission Rangers
The Hemi from the Ram would have been the ultimate engine for power, efficiency and torque in this vehicle. They should offer 3 engine options, the 3.6 seen here, the 5.7 hemi from the Ram, and the top dog new diesel coming out.
Yeah, the old Jeeps in Europe got a Merc 2.7 V6 diesel. The new ones is getting a Fiat 2.2 L4 diesel. Both motors with solid reputations for reliability and efficiency. However they also charge us 60% more than the US for a Wrangler so nobody buys them.
Alan Bowers I see your point,what I am afraid of is people towing more than 3500 lbs without a trailer brake, which in a lot of states is illegal. If Jeep says that can tow 7000 lbs and doesn’t include a built in brake controller, frankly I think that is careless and unsafe, in my opinion.
Mike MacNeil it’s only recently though that any vehicle came equipped from the factory with a trailer brake controller. I’ve been towing for years and always bought my own controller.
Alan Bowers I guess you are one of the good ones. I just wonder how many people will think, my truck can tow 7000 lbs, who rarely, if ever tow at all, and throws max weight on the back without a trailer brake. But I guess anyone can over tow with any vehicle, no matter the size. So I get your point.
Reserve judgement for the Sport S Max Tow Package. Rubicon is Off Road Set up. also TFL should send all the mid-size trucks up the gauntlet with 6000 LBS and create an even comparison!
t4thfavor1212 Nope you’re wrong. they already tested the Ranger and it was two seconds slower than the Colorado with the V6. The Colorado also had slightly better mpg’s. That was the ZR2 which isn’t really set up for towing. The numbers would’ve even been better with the Z71 because it’s lighter and gets way better gas mileage then the ZR2.
@@Welcometofacsistube That's bit of a stretch. All trucks hold their value well. I'd be interested to see otherwise. Not apples to apples but Auto trader has 2010 3500hd trucks listed for between 20-30k, not work trucks. 2010 wrangler 4 door under or at 20k. *Not scientific research, first few results any distance.
Most of my towing is done during hotter months. Down south with high humidity. I'd like to see trans and engine temperatures on the mountain past durning summer time. I have a few 6% grades for two miles on my towing trips.
I'm towing a 22' boat about 5200 bs all loaded up with my Mojave with 2" lift on 35s. I live in mass where it's pretty flat and I'm real comfortable towing. I think my bigger tires and stiffer rear coils have greatly helped my towing ability. Overall very happy with towing but I wouldn't go much more than this. Cheers
This thing is designed to do moderate off-road, daily drive and pull a small trailer of 3k or less safely and controlled. It’s for people who will throw a few items in the back occasionally like some camping gear or a mountain bike. I’m sure this thing would do great in the snow for people who live in the mountains. This is not a tow rig, if you wanna tow buy a vehicle designed to tow, but than don’t expect to take that vehicle off-road.
Andre. Please check your numbers. 2019 TRD Pro payload is 1560, not 1000. Shows Gladiator is not great for towing. Would rather go with Tundra TRD Pro of Ram Powerwagon.
Depends on your cab and bed configuration and your package and engine. All the frames and axles / suspensions they make are rated for the same thing, anything they add on takes away from payload.
A Conneely -Huh? Not what I said... The tundra comes w/ either a 4.6 or 5.7L engine. The original question was about tow ratings. There are TWO different tow ratings for the two different engine options. Edit, the 5.7L engine is rated at 10,200 lbs.
I agree an apples to apples comparison would have shown better resaults. I like testing it to the limit but now the test cant be used to chart against the other brands.
Hello again Nathan&Andre’, once again great job. But I do have a couple pieces of advice. When you setup the WDH, that’s very similar to mine, that’s a Fastway E2, you are supposed to hook up to the trailer, then before drilling any mounting holes for the bar perch, that is when you need to crank both up as far as you can, then place the bars in the hitch mount, bring the bars over to the trailers chassis to locate the bar perch, then mark an drill the holes, still high enough to need the pry bar the WDH should come with. That’s how you get the most available weight distribution! I mention this due to the fact the truck/trailer still has sag at the hitch! Even though there are only two of you and the bed is empty! If mounted like I advised the combined truck/trailer profile would be totally level at the highest weight combination! The other bit of advice, you should have the 4 way flashers on when going under the speed limits, especially when under 45.
Would love if you guys did the supe ike tow test with the diesel gladiator, and a max tow Sport S. Also, for what it is i thought it did well. Those pentastars sound amazing for stock V6.
I see where y'all are coming from with all the "bads" but one thing to remember is that truck is made for off-roading, not towing. Obviously it has a tow rating but it is still not designed to have a big trailer behind it or have a lot of weight thrown at it. That's my opinion on the matter. Anyways keep up the great content. I always like watching y'all testing the new trucks being released
I had some after thoughts. It appears to me the trailer was loaded WAAAAY too tongue heavy. The water tote appeared to be all the way in the front of the trailer which if true would severely overload the tongue weight even with the weight distribution gizmo (I have never used one) and cause overloading of the Jeep suspension-leading to some rear end sway. It also appears to have been loaded to one side and not in the middle causing more instability issues. I wonder what the tongue weighed? They talk about the gross weight of the trailer but don't mention the tongue weight? Or did I miss that part? Since the tote was not completely full it would also cause sway due the the liquid sloshing around fore. aft and side to side. I'm not saying the Jeep is a leaf spring truck when it comes to towing but there may be some other things to consider when you see the movement of the Jeep they failed to mention verbally. Either way not bad for such a small displacement motor and rear coil suspension.
I'm glad is 60k.. I don't wanna see a contractor or a landscaper with that truck. With concrete or a lawnmower . That truck is to enjoy on Sunday off road
Tekonsha's pigtail listed for the 2014 Cherokee plugs into a connector on the left side of the steering wheel and operates my P3 controller perfectly, in my 2018 JLU Rubicon.
A truck with no tow haul mode and then to find out it doesn't grade shift.... that sounds like a serious mistake on jeeps part. still watching the video so we'll see how this goes.
@@ALMX5DP i agree. but there will be those that don't lol. TFL Truck, you ought to do that downhill again and manually shift that transmission... see how many brake hits you do!
Justin King yeah I always felt they needed to give viewers that figure. It would be a good litmus test for how the truck performs against a driver’s manual control.
I would suspect that the 4:10 gears are designed for the Rubicons tire size which I think it was mentioned that they were 285-70 x 17. This would keep them turning efficiently on the trails - more so then towing maximum load. Now the towing set-up was a good idea for safety - which enables the weight of the trailer being distributed over more of total length of the truck frame. And the trailer brakes were also good idea for safety as well. After watching this video my initial thoughts is based on wondering how the Gladiator would have done with a lower gear ratio - like a 4:56 or 5:10. Just to see if the gears would step up into 4th or maybe 5th gear and not rev the engine so hard. With the results of the Gladiator's towing at Maximum Load being shown here on TFLT, I don't think I would buy this vehicle for towing the kind of weight that was used in this video.
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Been over that stretch of road numerous times in a 3.6 pentastar Dodge Caravan with a 6-speed not towing anything and it is all you can do to maintain speed I know the Jeep is geared different and has a different transmission but that thing's still has to be absolutely on the edge of blowing up.
Remember that TFL nearly melted the Diesel Grand Cherokee on an Ike Gauntlet back in the days with Emmy. FCA is really going to need to work hard to have an adequate cooling solution in place for the EcoDiesel JLU to perform as we think it should.
@@SurelyYewJest While it was a real possibility, they would have edited that out and finished taping in the red one only filming it so you couldn't tell.
t4thfavor1212 Don’t know about that ? these guys have broken a lot of stuff on these trucks testing and have always filmed it. hey seem pretty honest. I just watched them break a driveshaft on a Ranger
@@jonsmith919 Andre went out of his way to not beat up on this truck, but it's clear that you shouldn't try to tow that much weight with it. At least not with that engine.
@@ALMX5DP no that jeep was begging for them to stop pulling that weight. It should not be pulling that weight. And free reving would be fine. But actually working that engine with that weight is pushing its LIMITS.
@@bluerocky1902 How so? You see videos of sports cars screaming for their lives on track and call it glorious. Just because this isnt a good sounding engine doesnt mean anything. Since we dont know oil, coolant or trans temps we have no idea how stressed that engine really was.
Put 7000 lbs on a regular V8 full size 1500 truck and its going to also have to work pretty hard to tow up a grade like that. The thing here is one would only tow about 45-50 mph instead of 60mph and the Jeep would be fine. That is the max amount to tow and a huge grade to tow on, neither would likely be the norm for most people.
I’d like to see that exact same test done with a Tacoma at the same time for comparison. Although it didn’t do phenomenal it is still a midsize truck and let’s not forget that it’s the most capable off-road while maintaining the highest towing numbers.
You guys seemed to be fair in your assessment of the towing capabilities. You praised its ride and handling and showed its limitations of not having trailer brake control and no tow/haul mode. Although this test is a little unfair with the steep grade, I think it illustrates that Jeep was pretty aggressive with its tow rating given the engine and the lack of supporting equipment. I bet if you put a 5,000 lb trailer behind a ZR2 and the Gladiator, the ZR2 would perform more confidently. Not to mention the diesel ZR2 would mop the floor with it in any trailering application. (That would be a fun video.)
I have a 2020 Wrangler Rubicon with FIVE THIRTY EIGHT gears, and it still struggles. The little n/a 3.6 is pretty gutless but a fairly bulletproof little motor. You can wring it out.
That may be, but this test is inherently about quality as much as it is about capability. Plus, this is a press truck, so your point is kinda moot since press vehicles get beat on anyways.
@@timsisco3742 -- Just last week I witnessed an early 1990's Ford Ranger 2WD pulling a 30' camp trailer over the hwy 26 pass at Mt. Hood. I kid you not. That's a 6% grade for 6 miles and they were traveling about 20 MPH. That little truck was screaming and the rear bumper was nearly dragging the ground. Those people were crazy!! I wonder about people sometimes........
The diesel will help with the towing. This demonstrates the most extreme towing situation you can ever do and the reality is most Gladiators will probably only be towing a boat or hauling mulch
No, Shawn. A really tough towing test would be on ordinary highway, not Interstate. Speed zones, traffic lights, etc. The issue here is that the Jeep was obviously over its towing capacity for power. Sounds like otherwise the chassis and handling were very good for a midsize truck and such a heavy load. For a long time I've been hammered by people on forums (who happen to love smaller trucks) because I think that this kind of work is for full size trucks, not midsize.
@@jimparker7778 I disagree completely. First this vehicle and all trims of Gladiator are rated to tow 7500lbs and they had 7000lbs loaded. Second you are saying driving on a U.S.Route with stop lights is more challenging than going up and down a 12,000ft mountain in a naturally aspirated truck?? I tow a 9000lbs travel trailer all over the east coast and midwest going up hills is far more taxing than city driving with stop lights
@@NukePooch1 how come the diesel wasn't rated for less towing in the Ram and that was against a V8. You saying the diesel with 420lb ft of torque won't be able to match the V6 with 260lb ft even if the diesel weighs a little more?
@@TheRamGuy thanks for your reply. I was referring to driving on a highway in really hilly country. The 3.6 is totally wrong for the guy who wants to use the Gladiator for towing.
I got the Gladiator, runs great, pulls 2 tons and gets me where I need to be. I do not tow all the time but when I need to, It dose it job.
9:03 "Feels like the trailer it pushing the truck around" "not at all" Proceeds to go a foot over the lane to the right then goes over into the left lane.
Right after that they tap the brakes and you can watch the Gladiator wiggle.
Total success! Zero bad. It’s the most versatile Jeep ever made. It’s a Jeep truck leaning more towards Jeep than truck. I have the Gladiator Overland with 3:73.1 and 35’s. It is the best mid sized 4x4 I have ever owned. Far better than the 2020 Toyota TRD I had !!! Could NOT be happier ! My Gladiator is also 2020 with 31000 miles !
Ps. I have a No-Bo 168 off road camper trailer. Perfect setup !!!
So ROman says it feels like the trailer is pushing the truck around and Andre says it's not while the video clip shows Andre failing to maintain his lane and smoke coming from the brakes...
I think Roman was right.
I have towed trailers for more than 30 years. I promise you that trailer was pushing that Jeep all over the place
That back end was bouncing around, Andre’s bias is pretty clear.
Exactly, that Jeep was along for the ride so to speak.
Agreed. Although I think too much speed and towing at the limit was the cause. I gave this video of thumbs down because I wanted to hear more about these debility the how did the front end feel, was the steering light? Etc. More towing stuff not BS competitions.
Sigh. That should be towing stability.
people comparing this to a full size truck is stupid. its a midsize truck and pulls damn well for its size and compared to other trucks in its segment. you don't buy a gladiator for a work horse. you buy it to go off road, have a convertible fun vehicle, and to top it off it can tow a boat or other recreational things. Especially with the max tow package with 7650 lbs towing. NOT TO MENTION, they are pulling 7000 lbs up a damn mountain in thin air. this truck performed phenomenal for a mid size truck. don't be a hater for the sake of being a hater.
That trailer took the Gladiator to pound town.
9:10 swerving in both adjacent lanes "it's pretty stable. So far I feel in control."
I just shot my drink out of my nose!!! 😂
@@stevenle1782 Someone commented below and I didn't notice it before but the brakes are smoking like George Burns in that clip too.
Yeah it got reamed lmao
Andre was also letting the truck figure out which gear to descend in. Normally without a dedicated tow/haul mode, you would manually lock it in a lower gear for engine braking. The manual transmission would probably have done better downhill, but would've probably smoked the clutch going up.
Andre says "it feels pretty stable" video at 9:15 shows the Jeep using three lanes multiple times in a row ... I know the Gladiator is more about a do it all Jeep pickup, but using like this as a replacement for a full size pickup looks scary in this video to me.
Was gonna post exactly the same, lol!
The funny thing is that it performed exactly like a 1/2 ton of 20 years ago. Really the gladiator should be hooked to a 25’ camper and not much more.
@@Ulfstigandr 25'? That's way too massive for a Jeep Gladiator. Weight might be do-able but the physical dimensions wouldn't be.
Its not a full size truck.. its not going to perform like a fullsize truck. I still like it. I still want it. But i want a diesel and manual. And a WAYYYYYYYY LOWER price
Here's my take on the gladiator and why I justify buying one, I do more off-roading then I do towing, although I have a bass boat and other toys that I like to use and a truck would be nice to tow them with, which this truck can do every once in a while and will have no problem doing it. I enjoy the ride of the jeep and am very confident with its 4x4 capabilities, and can tow SOME toys if I need it. This truck is more of an overlanding rig then anything, which is why I got one. I don't mind TFL testing it like a truck, as this is what its advertised as, I just hope everyone understands that you're not gonna out tow a tacoma or colorado, but you will likely out perform the competition with the 4x4 capabilities, with the ability to tow small toys for camping and hunting trips.
Very astute take! I regularly tow at 4,600-6,500 lbs 26’ travel trailer, with my 2019 Colorado Crew Cab 4x4, V6, with more ease than that, of course I’ve never driven over the Ike, yet. But all over the White and Green Mountains of New England and Smokey Mountains of Tennessee, N. Carolina and VA.
I tow 7100pb micro boost xlr just fine on west coast just fine. Had to add redarc brake controller and airlift 1000 bags for springs.
I think it's supposed to only tow one of those nifty 15,000 dollar "over landing" trailers so people can show off their rooftop tents and arb fridges.
So basically pussies who can't even cook with wood and use charcoal or even worse propaine grills
American Sniper because we all know how safe it is to cook with wood out in the wilderness lol 😂
@@GregKittle your picture is exactly the type of white yuppie that would buy one of this Fiats
American Sniper that’s such a typical response from a Hillary-supporting millennial lol. I bring up a valid point about you burning down the forest to prove how macho you are and that is what you come up with.
Couldn’t have said it better.
This test turned out exactly as I expected. The Gladiator was being shoved down the hill by the "max load" trailer and struggled trying to drag the weight back up the hill. I don't think this test proved as much as all it demonstrated was a "struggling Jeep" operating on the edge of all safety considerations. A 5000 pound load would have been better as then we could have truly compared the Gladiator Rubicon to the rest of the midsize trucks in Ike Gauntlet testing.
Yeah.. I wouldn’t trust anything
Above 5,000 pounds…
Would be very cool if you guys had a data logger to show the engine/trans temp and oil pressure graphs. If it could map out how many times it shifted that would be awesome also but would love to see those graphs
Who gives a shit! It pulled it up the mountain just fine. They checked the temps a few times and they were fine.
Actually, Andy, it didn't pull it up the mountain just fine. It was all over the road, crossing the lines on both sides, bad enough to get a ticket for failing to maintain lane if a cop had been there to witness it. That's just sad. The downhill braking was fairly impressive though.
@@crazyhass84 just fine lol. The thing sounded like it wanted to die the whole time up
they mentioned they had some data. wish they went over it in the video.
I will put it into perspective for you. A truck that can tow on occasion and can off road better than most, but you wouldn't want to buy it as a regular tow pig.
That engine is screamin....Tick Tock.....Kaaaabang...A lot of stress on the engine towing that much weight.
A truck with no brake control , struggles on max tow capacity and price of this thing is 60k? Lol
jd5179 well if we’re being honest the main purpose of this vehicle is not to be towing constantly, especially much over 5000lbs. Its a Jeep with more cargo room.
Its not built to use as a tow truck,an off road truck that can tow if needed ! What I find is laughable is the 12 year old new Ranger that is more than a 1/2 ton truck lol..
@@01trsmar You don't consider it negligent for a mfg to put towing ratings like that on a rig and have none of the safety equipment to back those #s up?
@@scottleggejr nope, since certain states don't seem to understand that properly installing a high quality brake controller and frame mounted hitch bumper is just as good or in some cases better than buying a "tow package" consisting of a marginal at best receiver and a china-tier electric brake controller
@@ghost-jesus I hear what you're saying but I consider it negligent... This vehicle strikes me as FCA making a 'jeep with a bed' instead of designing and competing in the mid-size truck market. They forgot a few key pieces of the 'truck' aspect.
It's already a bad sign when they are using another truck to get the trailer to location.
The suspension may be capable of handling 7000 lb trailers, but not the motor and drivetrain. Needs a diesel or Hemi, programmed trans, and proper towing package...
The diesel will be the only engine anyone will recommend for towing. Its clear the gasoline engine struggled badly. Its an OK engine for a truck that size but not for towing an additional 7000 pounds around!
I don’t see anyone in these comments acknowledging the mountain they are towing over. If they are not lying about how steep it is, the Jeep did great. This is the worst it will ever perform.
@@ge99ne This. Everyone is talking like they did this test on some gentle slope. This is the Ike Gauntlet. It's the steepest stretch of downhill road available. This extra-long Wrangler just handled that with a 7,000 lb trailer behind it. I'm not seeing a big problem here.
Nobody is buying this as a hauling rig when they can get a 3/4-1 ton truck for that. What this proved is that it will _more_ than handle the loads and roads people are _actually_ going to put it up against.
Basically it proved what everyone should already know is that it shouldn’t be towing 7000 lbs just like any other midsize shouldn’t be. Especially if you live in a hilly or mountainous region. Maybe 5000 lbs. for the cost of these vehicles it should come with a brake controller and a tow haul mode. I have a hard time believing the trans is reading load. If that’s the case why do any trucks have tow haul mode
Joe Sainato I think it proves that 7k is the max rated load just like Jeep said.
Alan Bowers I’m guessing you are a truck guy. It proves that manufacturers rate their vehicles higher than they should. I actually believe if you don’t have the rubicon a properly equipped gladiator says up to 7600. You watched it screaming up the Ike with 7000 so you think another 600 is ok. No but they say you can. We have an 18 wrangler rubicon same motor and trans, obviously different frame but it produces same power and there is no chance it has enough torque and power to be towing that weight. Maybe one time to help someone. Again I’m not beating up the gladiator I think it’s a wonderful truck. Im just being a realist
Joe Sainato only the sport tows 7600. The gladiator rows 7k
david olivares I know it my point was it’s screaming over working at 7000 now add another 600 it’s same motor and trans
You bring up a good point. It is two different worlds towing out west at elevation with strong winds. Manufacturers should maybe give two different specs on their trucks. One for east of the Mississippi and another for west of the Mississippi.
Looks neat, performs okay, waaaaaaaay over priced for what it is.
cuz your broke
@@truckcampertraveler7369 * Cheap
@@truckcampertraveler7369 60k for a Fiat midsized truck. I wouldn't buy this POS if it were 20k
@@johnwcyne8847 if it was $20,000 you still could not afford it. cheers!
@@truckcampertraveler7369 I drive a 40k Tundra...I'll take fries with my burger dogg
"It's pretty stable" as it sways from one side of the lane to the other.
Yeah, that was hilarious. Stable, huh? Well, it's all over THREE lanes of traffic..
🤣👍
Just asserting lane dominance.
they were lucky it wasn't windy
It sways like no other. I pull a 3400 lb travel trailer and the semi will have me everywhere.
“The engine changed its tone”... nah, it’s just blowing up!
It was pulling back timing to prevent detonation as the cylinder temps probably got quite high.
The entire Jeep community:
'Can you add 10 inches to the cargo area and have a v8 option. Literally nothing else please'
Jeep:
'Ok, so we basically put a jeep body on a v6 only, with leafsprings, half ton pickup chasis'
Jeep customers:
(visibly confused)
'So..hey..that's not..'
Jeep:
'Slaps customers'
Jeep customers:
(Crying and paying $60k)
'Well, I guess it does say Jeep''
Drew Smithson leaf springs? Lmfao it’s the same rear suspension as the coil sprung Ram.
@@kurtmuzio3077 Oh.. well my bad then. I swore I heard them say it had leaf springs.
I have watched several of your videos and think you guys do a great job. I have a Gladiator, purchased my Rubicon in September , trading in my 16 unlimited 75 th anniversary . This is my 13 th new jeep product and other than my 08 Commander Overland, I think it does a decent job towing. I haven't towed more than 5500 lbs but compared to the 5 speed slushbox in the 16 , the 8 speed is a great improvement. In upstate NY we don't encounter the elevation as in the video, but if you're not in a rush it will get the job done. Its a Jeep thing !
Tow this same setup with the 2019 Ranger, I'd love to see it. (Upvote this if you would also love to see it)
t4thfavor1212 ranger will do better with 10 speed and a flat torque curve
Clint Mullins I know and that’s why I want to see it happen.
@@t4thfavor1212 but its so ugly :(
7k rating but no tow haul mode or brake controller; not sure how they got away with that tow rating...I don’t care what size engine these midsized trucks have they shouldn’t be allowed to tow more the 5k....At some point the trailer is driving the truck not the other way around
It automatically senses when its towing
@@gradywilkerson123 That's "bullshitian" for "we didn't put one in because it cost more"
And people have done it for years in what would today be considered mid size trucks with no "tow mode", no trailer brakes, and in many cases *gasp* no weight distribution hitch with minimal issues, its called operator skill, something that seems to be on the decline these days.
Except it every midsize truck from the last 30 years of had a tow haul mode button on the end of the shifter or on the dash somewhere including the four-cylinder automatic transmission Rangers
Not that this is a great selling point but, these 1/4 ton trucks are doing the same work or more then the 1/2 ton of 20 years ago.
RIP headphone users when they drill into the trailer.
On another note, Andre is crazy about how that thing handled lol
The Hemi from the Ram would have been the ultimate engine for power, efficiency and torque in this vehicle. They should offer 3 engine options, the 3.6 seen here, the 5.7 hemi from the Ram, and the top dog new diesel coming out.
Jeep needs 3 options for the motor in this truck.
V8 towing 7,000+/-
Diesel towing 7,000+/-
The 3.6 v6 towing 6,200+/-
So another underpowered jeep... Dam it just put in a V8 and make everyone happy!
Or at least put in a high output EcoDiesel engine.
Yeah, the old Jeeps in Europe got a Merc 2.7 V6 diesel. The new ones is getting a Fiat 2.2 L4 diesel. Both motors with solid reputations for reliability and efficiency.
However they also charge us 60% more than the US for a Wrangler so nobody buys them.
Or a v6 turbo
I’d love to see a Cummins 4cyl common rail diesel.
I can't remember where I saw it but there's a reason they couldn't put a v8 in the gladiator
Yeah. you won't be able to do that too many time before she quits..
I see a lot of blown Transmissions in this trucks future
That thing, shouldn’t be towing more than 5000 lbs at best, ideally, 3000-3500.
Yup - over rated. I dont see how this passes j2807
Mike MacNeil 5000 maybe but a limit of 3500 would be a joke. I tow that with my tiny 4 banger Tacoma with ease.
Alan Bowers I see your point,what I am afraid of is people towing more than 3500 lbs without a trailer brake, which in a lot of states is illegal. If Jeep says that can tow 7000 lbs and doesn’t include a built in brake controller, frankly I think that is careless and unsafe, in my opinion.
Mike MacNeil it’s only recently though that any vehicle came equipped from the factory with a trailer brake controller. I’ve been towing for years and always bought my own controller.
Alan Bowers I guess you are one of the good ones. I just wonder how many people will think, my truck can tow 7000 lbs, who rarely, if ever tow at all, and throws max weight on the back without a trailer brake. But I guess anyone can over tow with any vehicle, no matter the size. So I get your point.
Reserve judgement for the Sport S Max Tow Package. Rubicon is Off Road Set up. also TFL should send all the mid-size trucks up the gauntlet with 6000 LBS and create an even comparison!
You can send anything anywhere you want, it won't change the results presented here.
That was a lot of prep work in that brake controller and weight distribution hitch to pull a trailer
"Thanks for letting us borrow this trailer, we drilled some holes in the tongue; hope you don't mind"
Do a 5600 lb test with the 3 horse trailer for comparison between the Gladiator, Tacoma, and Colorado.
AJ PARKER and ranger ?......
Colorado wins.....
Colorado wins with V6 or diesel
@@mikemissouri5152 Nope, Ranger would put it in the ground. Colorado is either underpowered, or too low on torque, depending on engine choice.
t4thfavor1212 Nope you’re wrong. they already tested the Ranger and it was two seconds slower than the Colorado with the V6. The Colorado also had slightly better mpg’s. That was the ZR2 which isn’t really set up for towing. The numbers would’ve even been better with the Z71 because it’s lighter and gets way better gas mileage then the ZR2.
I hope this channel never stops growing so much fun
I bought a new 3500HD for the price of a Mid level Gladiator. WHAT A JOKE!
And when you got to resell that Generic Motor Crap pos, the Jeep will be worth 10x more
@@Welcometofacsistube That's bit of a stretch. All trucks hold their value well. I'd be interested to see otherwise.
Not apples to apples but Auto trader has 2010 3500hd trucks listed for between 20-30k, not work trucks. 2010 wrangler 4 door under or at 20k.
*Not scientific research, first few results any distance.
@@Irvine860 never owned a Jeep wrangler i see
Try to take your 3500 up a hill without a road covered in large rocks.
@@narwahlssb this video is about towing, not rock crawling.
This is top notch Gentlemen. Excellent vid bodes well for Season 3...you guys are frickin awesome and getting better.
Most of my towing is done during hotter months. Down south with high humidity. I'd like to see trans and engine temperatures on the mountain past durning summer time. I have a few 6% grades for two miles on my towing trips.
That Gladiator kicks it all of the Tacoma, both in looks and performance! Plus you can take the doors off!
This poor little engine is so struggling. I feel this is over working the engine an soon failure.
craigsclocks I think It handled it just fine. The true measure would be knowing what the oil and trans temps were during the run.
craigsclocks, the sooner to buy a new one, my dear.
People who buy brand new jeeps have never even checked their own oil so when a failure does happen dealership bends them over
Engine is not up to the task of towing 5000lbs let alone 7000lbs
@@ALMX5DP Notice they checked it early, and then never mentioned it again? Yeah, odd.
I'm towing a 22' boat about 5200 bs all loaded up with my Mojave with 2" lift on 35s. I live in mass where it's pretty flat and I'm real comfortable towing. I think my bigger tires and stiffer rear coils have greatly helped my towing ability. Overall very happy with towing but I wouldn't go much more than this. Cheers
What was that Water/oil and Trans temp gauge at? That motor sounded like it was going to blow up!
This thing is designed to do moderate off-road, daily drive and pull a small trailer of 3k or less safely and controlled. It’s for people who will throw a few items in the back occasionally like some camping gear or a mountain bike. I’m sure this thing would do great in the snow for people who live in the mountains. This is not a tow rig, if you wanna tow buy a vehicle designed to tow, but than don’t expect to take that vehicle off-road.
Andre. Please check your numbers. 2019 TRD Pro payload is 1560, not 1000. Shows Gladiator is not great for towing. Would rather go with Tundra TRD Pro of Ram Powerwagon.
On the Toyota website for the taco, its 1200 for payload
Guys, Tundra has two engine size options I believe, hence the two different towing capacities and payloads.
@@Erin-Thor The Tundra is a full size truck
Depends on your cab and bed configuration and your package and engine. All the frames and axles / suspensions they make are rated for the same thing, anything they add on takes away from payload.
A Conneely -Huh? Not what I said... The tundra comes w/ either a 4.6 or 5.7L engine. The original question was about tow ratings. There are TWO different tow ratings for the two different engine options. Edit, the 5.7L engine is rated at 10,200 lbs.
It's no surprise the brakes smoked, towing 7k lbs with no trailer brakes.
Wish FCA would bring back a midsize work truck that can tow and haul like the Dakota with a modernized 4.7 V8 Magnum with the 8 spd transmission.
That’s a badass brake controller, very cool idea
Would like to see them do it with 5000 pounds to compare with the ZR2 and Taco. The ZR2 did it in 8 min flat and made it look easy.
I agree an apples to apples comparison would have shown better resaults. I like testing it to the limit but now the test cant be used to chart against the other brands.
Mike Missouri well if the zr2 did 5000 in 8 flat and this gladiator did 7000 in 9:50 mins thats pretty obvious.
Hello again Nathan&Andre’, once again great job. But I do have a couple pieces of advice. When you setup the WDH, that’s very similar to mine, that’s a Fastway E2, you are supposed to hook up to the trailer, then before drilling any mounting holes for the bar perch, that is when you need to crank both up as far as you can, then place the bars in the hitch mount, bring the bars over to the trailers chassis to locate the bar perch, then mark an drill the holes, still high enough to need the pry bar the WDH should come with. That’s how you get the most available weight distribution! I mention this due to the fact the truck/trailer still has sag at the hitch! Even though there are only two of you and the bed is empty! If mounted like I advised the combined truck/trailer profile would be totally level at the highest weight combination! The other bit of advice, you should have the 4 way flashers on when going under the speed limits, especially when under 45.
Would love if you guys did the supe ike tow test with the diesel gladiator, and a max tow Sport S.
Also, for what it is i thought it did well. Those pentastars sound amazing for stock V6.
That 8 speed is really nice if you pair it with the right engine. Our EcoDiesel loves it and it tows great. Boat is about 5000 lbs.
Why would you do this test with a Rubicon instead of the Sport/Sport S which are the only two models that support the MAX TOW rating of 7650lbs??
I see where y'all are coming from with all the "bads" but one thing to remember is that truck is made for off-roading, not towing. Obviously it has a tow rating but it is still not designed to have a big trailer behind it or have a lot of weight thrown at it. That's my opinion on the matter. Anyways keep up the great content. I always like watching y'all testing the new trucks being released
I had some after thoughts. It appears to me the trailer was loaded WAAAAY too tongue heavy. The water tote appeared to be all the way in the front of the trailer which if true would severely overload the tongue weight even with the weight distribution gizmo (I have never used one) and cause overloading of the Jeep suspension-leading to some rear end sway. It also appears to have been loaded to one side and not in the middle causing more instability issues. I wonder what the tongue weighed? They talk about the gross weight of the trailer but don't mention the tongue weight? Or did I miss that part? Since the tote was not completely full it would also cause sway due the the liquid sloshing around fore. aft and side to side. I'm not saying the Jeep is a leaf spring truck when it comes to towing but there may be some other things to consider when you see the movement of the Jeep they failed to mention verbally. Either way not bad for such a small displacement motor and rear coil suspension.
To summarize this video dont buy a pint sized truck to tow
Yes lol
As a Wrangler owner and overall Jeep fan... my wife has a jeep as well.. there is NOWAY in hell I would buy this at that price!
Agreed.
A small v8, a diesel, and the 3.6l would be great options in this truck.
Also needs tow mirror options and a brake controller and tow/haul
I agree the 5.7 would be awesome. The brake controller as stated will be available later in the year as prodution ramps up to full scale.
man that thing is loud in the cabin!
It's still a Wrangler, i.e. noisy and cold,
6:45 It reminds me of the early 80's Toyota trucks. Look how close they're sitting together.
Off road yes towing no 60.000 no way 👎👎
I'm glad is 60k.. I don't wanna see a contractor or a landscaper with that truck. With concrete or a lawnmower . That truck is to enjoy on Sunday off road
Tony Vega us Mexicans will do it count on it 😂 anything to try to stand out 🤦🏽♂️
Extreme off road ...NO Extreme towing ...No Extreme price...NO
@@rodgood I agree ..
@@tonyvega7268 Are we now gatekeeping on what people can drive based on their profession?
So a 3500 lb A frame pop up trailer would do really pretty well
@TFLTruck FYI: Tacoma TRD Pro Payload is 1175lbs.
Jorel Davis And the ZR2 is 1220lbs
Tekonsha's pigtail listed for the 2014 Cherokee plugs into a connector on the left side of the steering wheel and operates my P3 controller perfectly, in my 2018 JLU Rubicon.
A truck with no tow haul mode and then to find out it doesn't grade shift.... that sounds like a serious mistake on jeeps part. still watching the video so we'll see how this goes.
Justin King I suspect most if not all owners would soon use the manual transmission control to keep those downhill trips in check.
@@ALMX5DP i agree. but there will be those that don't lol. TFL Truck, you ought to do that downhill again and manually shift that transmission... see how many brake hits you do!
Justin King yeah I always felt they needed to give viewers that figure. It would be a good litmus test for how the truck performs against a driver’s manual control.
Yeah but they've already got the Jeep nuts lining up for them. Forget the facts right? 😂
@@EGGINFOOLS i admit i really like the gladiator, but for my use currently the unlimited rubicon was the better route. i still have my f150 lol!
I would suspect that the 4:10 gears are designed for the Rubicons tire size which I think it was mentioned that they were 285-70 x 17. This would keep them turning efficiently on the trails - more so then towing maximum load. Now the towing set-up was a good idea for safety - which enables the weight of the trailer being distributed over more of total length of the truck frame. And the trailer brakes were also good idea for safety as well. After watching this video my initial thoughts is based on wondering how the Gladiator would have done with a lower gear ratio - like a 4:56 or 5:10. Just to see if the gears would step up into 4th or maybe 5th gear and not rev the engine so hard. With the results of the Gladiator's towing at Maximum Load being shown here on TFLT, I don't think I would buy this vehicle for towing the kind of weight that was used in this video.
Yessssssssss It is 2020 Bright White Clear-Coat Jeep Gladiator 3.6L v6 285 Hp And 260 Torque Rubicon Crew Cab Short Bed 4wd Backup Camera 17-22-19 11 Brake Applications 9:54.00 Time Record 4.7 Mpg $60.419 Ulimate Compact Midsize Truck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Been over that stretch of road numerous times in a 3.6 pentastar Dodge Caravan with a 6-speed not towing anything and it is all you can do to maintain speed I know the Jeep is geared different and has a different transmission but that thing's still has to be absolutely on the edge of blowing up.
Going up hill
I'm giving her all she's got, Captain! She cannae take anymore.
Thanks for the review. I hope when the diesel comes out you can do another video to compare the gasoline version with the diesel version.
As an owner of a JLU, I cannot imagine making this powertrain pull 7k lb up a mountain. It needs the diesel.
Remember that TFL nearly melted the Diesel Grand Cherokee on an Ike Gauntlet back in the days with Emmy. FCA is really going to need to work hard to have an adequate cooling solution in place for the EcoDiesel JLU to perform as we think it should.
@@garyblatt8925 Its a whole new engine so hopefully they fixed it.
Very well done, gentlemen. Thank you for this tremendous important real world information.
Jeep should make partners with Cummins and shove a 4BT in it
I am all about heavy duty trucks but I would not expect that to do an amazing job on such a steep grade and high elevation
I really thought that motor was coming through the hood.
They are higher revving 6 cyl...bulletproof engines fyi !
Ya, as the former owner of a much older Pentastar-powered car, I was bracing for something really bad to happen on camera.
Tom S Lol for 10 min?
@@SurelyYewJest While it was a real possibility, they would have edited that out and finished taping in the red one only filming it so you couldn't tell.
t4thfavor1212 Don’t know about that ? these guys have broken a lot of stuff on these trucks testing and have always filmed it. hey seem pretty honest. I just watched them break a driveshaft on a Ranger
Hey TFL Team, Can you try to do an IKE gauntlet tow test on Lamborghini Urus?. Love to see how the Italian bull fairs.
ZR2 PAYLOAD IS MORE!! I said this the last time its 1249lbs.
I like that Gladiator, electronic brake control..I had no idea, gotta love technology.
Folks are right, with this lack of performance this truck is overpriced!
monzx3 why is the Russian guy not in a track suit?
Well don’t buy a rubicon then and it’s a small truck what do you expect smh
most vehicles are over priced. what else is new
@@jonsmith919 Andre went out of his way to not beat up on this truck, but it's clear that you shouldn't try to tow that much weight with it. At least not with that engine.
Andra is that trailer pushing you around. Andra: No not really. As you see the truck swerve back and forth across the lines.
If you want a toy, buy a gladiator. If you want a truck, buy a truck!
justinloughrie15 exactly, different vehicles for different applications. Still it’s good to know it can pull that load without too much trouble.
@@ALMX5DP You call that little trouble? That jeep was begging for its life.
@@bluerocky1902 revving an engine sounds like begging for it's life?
@@ALMX5DP no that jeep was begging for them to stop pulling that weight. It should not be pulling that weight. And free reving would be fine. But actually working that engine with that weight is pushing its LIMITS.
@@bluerocky1902 How so? You see videos of sports cars screaming for their lives on track and call it glorious. Just because this isnt a good sounding engine doesnt mean anything. Since we dont know oil, coolant or trans temps we have no idea how stressed that engine really was.
Soo happy to see my girl gets to go for a ride, and a lil vacation, thanks.
For that price give me a 5.7 Hemi! About the same gas mileage with the 3.21 and easily pulling 8000lbs
guys-- this helps me alot with my car buying decision-- really appreciate it.
Greatest channel ever on UA-cam 👌🏽💯
Good video. Please do this with a 6spd manual model.
Is that an overlanding vehicle in the background 6:16? Chance for a Super-Ike?
I caught that too, lets see the tow rating on that
Can't wait to see the diesel in action
What, no aftermarket add-on turbos, no non-factory tune to break the truck? Andre, you are disappointing us!
They do love putting their viewers vehicles in jeopardy with shoddy tunes for a few bucks. Let's see them tune a car that isn't theirs if it's so safe
Put 7000 lbs on a regular V8 full size 1500 truck and its going to also have to work pretty hard to tow up a grade like that. The thing here is one would only tow about 45-50 mph instead of 60mph and the Jeep would be fine. That is the max amount to tow and a huge grade to tow on, neither would likely be the norm for most people.
I missed the Ike gauntlet videos. Thank you TFL😍
Only comment with a heart because tfl dosent like the truth
I’d like to see that exact same test done with a Tacoma at the same time for comparison. Although it didn’t do phenomenal it is still a midsize truck and let’s not forget that it’s the most capable off-road while maintaining the highest towing numbers.
I had the 2020 Toyota 4 door TRD V6 auto. It flat out sucks compared to my 2020 Gladiator V6 8 speed auto. The Jeep is 5 times the Toyota was !!!
you should probably have your hazards on below 45mph
Totally beat you guys on the prodigy brake controller. I’ve been using it for 3 years now. Never had an issue.
You guys seemed to be fair in your assessment of the towing capabilities. You praised its ride and handling and showed its limitations of not having trailer brake control and no tow/haul mode. Although this test is a little unfair with the steep grade, I think it illustrates that Jeep was pretty aggressive with its tow rating given the engine and the lack of supporting equipment.
I bet if you put a 5,000 lb trailer behind a ZR2 and the Gladiator, the ZR2 would perform more confidently. Not to mention the diesel ZR2 would mop the floor with it in any trailering application. (That would be a fun video.)
I have a 2020 Wrangler Rubicon with FIVE THIRTY EIGHT gears, and it still struggles. The little n/a 3.6 is pretty gutless but a fairly bulletproof little motor. You can wring it out.
Yea it can tow 7000lbs but shouldn't. You just put 5000 miles worth of wear and tear on the engine and transmission with that run.
Walter Williams source for that statement?
What a stupid comment. 5,000 miles hahah sure bud
That may be, but this test is inherently about quality as much as it is about capability.
Plus, this is a press truck, so your point is kinda moot since press vehicles get beat on anyways.
@@SurelyYewJest You got a good point there.
This is the mid-sized version of the 6.4L Hemi in the Ram 2500 from a year or two ago. The only mid-sized gas truck as slow as the Colorado Duramax.
I missed this video. Just... WOW! What a pile of shit. I'd be pissed if I bought that truck and was humming along at 30mph and 2mpg.
The good news is you can do at least 5 pulls like that before you need a motor swap. All for just under 60k...what a deal!
If your pulling 7000 pounds even rarely up that kind of grade at that elevation what the hell are you doing buying any mid-size truck period.
@@timsisco3742 -- Just last week I witnessed an early 1990's Ford Ranger 2WD pulling a 30' camp trailer over the hwy 26 pass at Mt. Hood. I kid you not. That's a 6% grade for 6 miles and they were traveling about 20 MPH. That little truck was screaming and the rear bumper was nearly dragging the ground. Those people were crazy!! I wonder about people sometimes........
“It’s pretty stable” as the trailer is swaying back in forth across the line 😂
The diesel will help with the towing. This demonstrates the most extreme towing situation you can ever do and the reality is most Gladiators will probably only be towing a boat or hauling mulch
Gladiator diesel towing rating will be LESS than the V6. Sources say it likely will be rated 500 pounds less.
No, Shawn. A really tough towing test would be on ordinary highway, not Interstate. Speed zones, traffic lights, etc. The issue here is that the Jeep was obviously over its towing capacity for power. Sounds like otherwise the chassis and handling were very good for a midsize truck and such a heavy load. For a long time I've been hammered by people on forums (who happen to love smaller trucks) because I think that this kind of work is for full size trucks, not midsize.
@@jimparker7778 I disagree completely. First this vehicle and all trims of Gladiator are rated to tow 7500lbs and they had 7000lbs loaded. Second you are saying driving on a U.S.Route with stop lights is more challenging than going up and down a 12,000ft mountain in a naturally aspirated truck?? I tow a 9000lbs travel trailer all over the east coast and midwest going up hills is far more taxing than city driving with stop lights
@@NukePooch1 how come the diesel wasn't rated for less towing in the Ram and that was against a V8. You saying the diesel with 420lb ft of torque won't be able to match the V6 with 260lb ft even if the diesel weighs a little more?
@@TheRamGuy thanks for your reply. I was referring to driving on a highway in really hilly country. The 3.6 is totally wrong for the guy who wants to use the Gladiator for towing.
Is there a chance you may test a Sport S Max Tow variant to compare and contrast the difference with the Rubicon? 🤔