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Man rick was right, those dinosaurs really fucked the season up by closing that rift
No doofus jerry 😔
The writers did*
God i fucking hate the meta bullshit of "hey look isnt this really annoying? Well now its justified because i mentioned its annoying. If its on purpose its good right?"
How so? Another could be opened just as easy as the first...
Yeah I didn’t really like that dinosaur
@@JEvans-wy9ln doofus jerry is inside the central finite curve
So basically, it's an excuse to refuse crossovers with other shows.
💀
Such as gravity falls😉
So which show evil morty a will appear in?
They did do one with the Simpsons lol
@@something-better And Space Jam 💀
The reason Rick created the Finite Curve was to trap Prime Rick in a bubble, so that way C-137 doesn't have to literally search the entire Multiverse for him.
But still he has to look into infinite universes, although some infinites are bigger than others. Think of it like this, The Central Finite curve is like enclosing the numbers 1 to 2, and the rest of the real numbers are the multiverse. Of course, there are still an infinite amount of numbers outside 2 and 1, but between 1 and 2 there’s also an infinite amount of numbers, like 1.1,1.001,1.0001 and so on.
@rzovlogs "Sets parameter on searching infinity".
@@rzovlogsBut it'll still increase the probability of finding him.
@@shriyanshpandey112 well yeah, as Aristotle said, some infinites are smaller than others
rick prime invented protal travel and porbably the central finite curve, he explained it to c-137 in his backstory “once I give you this technology you become the smartest thing in every conceivable universe, a god” - rick prime
Im still convinced that the reason C137 Rick contributed to the creation of the central finite curve, is not because it keeps the Ricks on top, but because it quarantines the Ricks from the remainder of the multiverse. Hes so depressed and self destructive because hes the only Rick who knows hes imprisoned, and its a prison of his own creation.
infinity - infinity is still infinity its not a “quarantine” if the inside and outside are both infinite in size
@@JamMonsterFrfo dont overthink the show where the dude turned himself into a pickle.
The show writers didnt care about how infinity works.
@@JamMonsterFrfo It's a quarantine if the two infinities do not overlap. Like the set of all odd integers, and the set of all even integers. Both infinite, but never the twain shall meet.
Yet C137 Rick isnt the protagonists of the show. Thats just the universe he pretends to be from.
I'd have thought he helped make it to ensure the Rick he was chasing couldn't escape
It's explained that the barrier was to trap Prime Rick. I'm sure his ego is involved too, but just as easily you could say the barrier could be meant to protect the universes with God-like Ricks from God-like threats in non-Rick forms.
Interesting theory but then I wonder how prime rick was residing outside the curve in the latest episode
I remember the doofus jerry
And you can bet there are bubbles out there that consists of apex Jerries, apex Beths, apex Summers,
I think they left the curve before the Dinosaurs patched it up.
The fact the Dinosaurs were smarter than Rick says a lot.
Rick is the smartest mammal, not being
The dinosaurs are definitely not smarter lol
@@Alex_agamer
Yea, probably more advanced, but I don’t think they are “smarter”
Heck, Rick manage to counter their technology given enough time.
Dinosaurs were essentially off the grid. Rick didn't realize they were present.
Rick Dinoproof himself in like 1 day. He is ALONE when dinosaurs are a literal society. Who is smarter?
Evil Morty played the Citadel for a while. I'm sure he got the information about the Central Finite Curve by utilizing the Rick he had under control.
Dictatorship amiright?
He stole the schematics from c137
@cain7925 my best guess is that he realized that if there were truly a fully infinite amount of universes, then Rick couldn't possibly be the smartest in all of them, and couldn't possibly be the only one to have interdimensional portal travel, but he didn't know about the curve until he scanned C-137's brain. (Though he probably scanned his, "evil", Rick's brain before finding out C-137 knew more)
@@eeeeee8762We also got a hint about the Central Finite Curve very early on, when Rick and Morty fled the bug monster universe. Rick said something along the lines of "We have to be careful, there aren't too many more worlds with these parameters". But that's impossible in a truly *infinite* multiverse, there would be an unlimited amount unless something was limiting the multiverse.
Remember the Portal guns got restarted do you think evil Morty came back because once the Portal guns restarted, everyone went back to their own universe
omg this is genoius
Only if it’s possible to reset him whilst he’s already outside of the curve
I imagine probably not, since no one can exit the finite curve, even with portal guns, its logical to assume no one outside of the curve can enter it either, which means there is some sort of dimensional wall there, which would then also prevent evil morty from coming back unless he or someone else punched a new hole into the curves boundary, otherwise we would have peooooobably seen him again cuz i imagine he would be pretty mad...or maybe he is hiding? EH im sticking to the original idea above xD
No, i dont think he would, because its only affect people in the curve...
But the curve is destroyed, thats why the dinos came so it would affect evil morty too...
My brain 😵
@@tone541 spell genius right
So is Doofus Rick still the most dominant one in his universe because everyone else there is even dumber?
It seems like the only thing that makes him a doofus is just because he's actually nice and content with simple things, not that he's actually less intelligent than the other ricks.
Fr was just thinking that I think they just made this shit up along the way tbh
@@-Kagura_Bachi- probably
Yes
Yep
“Somehow Evil Morty learned about the central finite curve”
They mentioned it in the Simple Rick’s commercial
Probably the best explanation I've seen for this
I hope we witness an episode of that morty that escaped rick verse.
He didn't, everyone got returned to thier universe or origin remember
@@FowardSlash_IMAGINE oh shit I just realised, Evil Morty lost his freedom when everyone got returned... Must've gotten pissed, or he has a backup ship because there is still a hole
@@FowardSlash_IMAGINE it only affects people inside of the central finite curve
@@FowardSlash_IMAGINEhe didnt use Rick Tech for his portal gun, thats why the portal was able to go to another dimension when the finite curve got no scoped
@@FowardSlash_IMAGINEno because he already escaped. or we’ll find out soon i guess
Well, he didnt just leave the central finite curve. He DESTROYED it.
No, he did not destroy it. He just left.
@@somedudes6455 there was literally a scene where he destroyed it
@@jeffsmith3422 except he didn't destroy it, he destroyed the citadel but the central finite curve was fine.
@@somedudes6455 there is literally a moment where we see the curve begin to explode
@@jeffsmith3422 that wasn't the curve exploding. That was just Morty leaving it.
I suppose this makes sense on why they can even label their universes. They would just lose meaning to count them. But if there is a finite amount of them, it now makes more sense.
There are still infinite universes but those are part of a bigger infinite
You can still count infinite things... there are such things as countably and uncountably infinite.
I've been saying for a year that all The Avengers need to beat Kang is their own Central Finite Curve lol. Create a barrier around all the universes where Kang was born and block them off from the rest
i dont think they could create a version of that that kang dosnt just destroy like nothing
So you may already know this but this is pretty cool. Rick is based on Doc Brown from Back to the future, but he's also Reed Richards from the F4.
Reed Richards created a pocket dimension called the Council of Reeds in order to solve all the problems of the universe with all the other dimensional versions of himself and Kang is Reed Richards descendant, so he also did that to ape his (great great etc..) grandfather's idea. Except that from a publication standpoint, the council of Kangs predates the council of Reeds,
SO:
The council of Ricks is based on the council of Reeds which is based on the council of Kang's which (in universe) is based on the council of Reeds
If the RaM multiverse is truly infinite, than there should be an infinite number of universes in which Rick is the apex entity.
Rick also should have had no problem finding a replacement universe.
Have you seen the show?
I'm gonna blow your mind right here but a subset of infinity (the smaller R&M universes) can still be infinite. There's an infinite number of universes where Rick is the apex entity despite there being an infinite number of universes where he is not.
@@GaussianEntity So, it should be named the Central *Infinite* Curve, then, right?
Why is it named the central "finite" curve if, in reality, there is an infinite number of universes that reside in it where Rick is the apex entity?
I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm just genuinely confused
@@wontonschannel The curve is finite, but the space contained in it is infinite. Trust me, it makes more sense if you're familiar with higher level math lol. I could give you an example of weird paradox-like things like this: Gabriel's Horn.
@@wontonschannel Think of the central finite curve like a filter that sperrates running water, now imagine that water being an infinite amount, the filter seperates the infinite dirt from the infinite water. In this situation, there are two infinities but what separates the two infinity isnt infinite.
Plus thanks to Rick C-137 restarting the portal travel, it enabled him to trap Rick Prime, its wasn’t just a means to keep certain things out(like those aliens Evil Morty fought), but it became a prison for Rick to use against Rick Prime.
Central finite curve is the Rick and Morty version of source wall, it's to draw a line between what materials you can and can't use. A guideline for the writers.
Partially correct. Once morty was outside the curve, travel to dimensions outside of the curve became possible only if you had Morty's portal gun. This is shown when after the crack in the curve was fixed, morty was able to portal into the curve and then back out at the end of that episode
I think Rick created it to separate universes where Rick is the most dominant person from the universe's where Rick chooses not to be that all because a rick that killed our Rick's family for turning down his offer.
Rick built the central finite curve so that other Ricks who chose not to go with multiverse travel and chose to live with their family peacefully would have that wish
All ricks are the same age, they would’ve been met with the same incident at the same time
My thoughts exact
in the simple rick ad they actually say hes from outside the curve
"Don't give him that. He basically made a whole thing about leaving Twitter, he's not evil"
THIS IS SO HELPFUL. AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. THANK YOU.
Calling it. Morty is gonna come back with every Morty that started out just as smart as Rick. Maybe some kept Rick as a sidekick. Maybe some killed their Rick off. But evil Morty will have a army of dangerous Mortys.
But Evil Morty doesn't want revenge.
He says it himself, He only wants to escape "the infinite crib of some infinite fucking baby"
And that the reason he's even named Evil Morty is because he's sick of Rick's absurd dominance over every universe inside the Central Finite Curve.
I like this explanation much more. The show is Rick AND Morty. It's never just morty. But for him, it is now.
@@donutlovingwerewolf8837 agreed. But just like Rick recently found out, he thinks is kill switch is doing nothing. Which usually resolves it self. But when it comes to a cosmic force like another Rick…or Morty, it’s only able to be fixed by another Rick or Morty. The federation never stopped the citadel. Rick did. No agency stopped the decoy madness. Government knew, didn’t wanna get into it.
So I guess my theory is Rick is gonna have no other choice. Him and Morty will face off against a Morty and Rick pair.
The Central Finite Curve: Addressing *why* the Mary Sue manages to get away with everything and everyone's fine with it.
Thank you. Quick. Precise. No BS.
Wasn’t it also created so that he could find Rick prime
Yes and No. The best way to skim through infinity is to limit the search. So he got the citadel to help him build it just so it would limit the amount of searchable universes. Whereas the other Rick's probably thought it'd be best to only stay in universes where they were the most powerful.
In one of the comic books rick and morty visit a universe where mortys are like ricks and ricks are like mortys and they have a council of mortys
This was difficult to understand a bit, but I watched it another time and now I get it. It’s a cool concept if you think about it
SOOOOO FUCKING AWESOME!!!!! It's GENIUS how the series breaks its own truths without feeling plot device or forced.
If you have ever seen Noein then it might help you understand a bit better. Basically there is a point where one of the characters is blinking through the multiple universes and she is talking to the traveler who tries to explain that she might be able to find a universe where her father didn't leave her Mom but it wouldn't have anything to do with the current version of her or the path she was currently on.
They built a wall around infinity…..I can’t even wrap my head around that
Some infinites are bigger than others. The Rick and Morty multiverse contains all sets of infinities. The central finite curve just separates one set of infinity from the others
@@nightmarexgaming120this makes me happy I didn't major in math
Is there ever an explanation for doofus Rick in relation to the central finite curve. It always bugged me
Here’s the best explanation but you won’t like it (continuity error)
@@nsramen3624 yep, I figured, lol
Well doofus Rick is still extremely smart, he just has a mental disability. I wouldn’t be surprised if his universe is either filled with people who worship him or filled with idiots
Maybe doofus rick is the smartest in his doofus verse
@@MattyDawnshot true
Evil Morty was still in the Finite Curve as clearly showed in the episode where Evil Morty joined C-137 Rick and finally killed Rick Prime.
Now turn that circle into a tube and you get the "they built a wall around infinity" line
Wow, you explained that way better than the show ever did, thank you
To rock and Morty goes so deep, like after the first season of just dark humor it progressively started to get more and more crazier, but that’s why I love it
Some infinites are bigger than others.Think of it like this, The Central Finite curve is like enclosing the numbers 1 to 2, and the rest of the real numbers are the multiverse. Of course, there are still an infinite amount of numbers outside 2 and 1, but between 1 and 2 there’s also an infinite amount of numbers, like 1.1,1.001,1.0001 and so on.
Technically if it's infinite, there's an infinite amount of universes where Rick is and isn't the apex entity
Some infinites are bigger than other. Think of it like this, The Central Finite curve is like enclosing the numbers 1 to 2, and the rest of the real numbers are the multiverse. Of course, there are still an infinite amount of numbers outside 2 and 1, but between 1 and 2 there’s also an infinite amount of numbers, like 1.1,1.001,1.0001 and so on.
“They built a wall around infinity”
There’s still a solid 50/50 the dinosaurs didn’t actually re-seal the central finite curve, considering we still saw Evil Morty being able to travel through it with his portal gun afterwards.
When you think about it, the dinosaurs were protecting the rest of universes when they closed the curve, trapping all Ricks in a place where they couldn't hurt the rest of infinity.
I don’t know if they realize it but it uses a mathematical concept of differently sizes infinities. Meaning that some infinities are bigger than others and some are smaller than others. The central finite curve belongs to a lower order of infinite universes that the multiverse as it encompasses the infinite infinity while the central finite curve encompasses something called the ironically enough countable infinity.
not sure how infinity works
so is infinity something a concept and let's say one infinite is number 1
and the other is 2
they are both infinite but one is higher is that how it works
or is just something that keeps re appearing called infinite? no matter the time
so like
every 5 seconds you get 1 pizza
while it is small it is infinite?
@@hodayfa000h vsauce has a good video on it
@@hodayfa000h Think about it - there are infinite numbers between 1 and 3 but none of them are 4
Dude just wanted to leave and is called evil
He's evil for the lengths he went to in order to leave.
If an African-American slave killed millions of other slaves as well as millions of free men to escape slavery themselves, they would be evil too.
The motivation doesn't justify the means.
@@me-myself-i787 would you not do the same in his position
@@jatehews2665I can pretty reasonably say that no I wouldn't murder thousands of innocent people to "be free". In no small part because its entirely unnecessary to achieve said freedom.
EM could have just built his station somewhere random and likely would have been fine.
@@AlphaOmega1237evil Morty wasn’t even looking for freedom he could have fucked off anywhere he wanted specifically a place with no ricks and did anything to get there
@@kuugando6689 he already got rid of the rick from his own universe to begin with too
great video lot of people dont undersatnd this it helps a lot of people
It was me! I traveled to the Finite Curve with my Super Speed by glitching the universe by using my Reverse Speed Force! Then I told Evil Morty about it! But that isn't all! I'am probably gonna delete this message because I don't want Rick to come after me.
damn you thawne.
My question is does that mean theres other finite curves for other people.
A FINITE CURVE WHERE JERRY IS THE SMARTEST BEING?!??
If they decided to make one
Probably since infinity is infinite
Another way to illustrate it would be representing the multiverse as a cartesian plane with an infinite diagonal line from the middle mapping out several points in the plane, the points represent the CFC
That green circle should cover at least 99.9% of the red circle.
Wait dinosaurs? Wth seems super random at the end. Can someone explain?
Season 6 Episode 6. There were some super intelligent dinosaurs that showed up and were solving problems. Then a fair amount of events happened and they did each other "favors" to a degree. I'm unsure how to word it correctly but I am for certain that Season 6 Episode 6 is the correct one to find it.
They are basically a deus ex machina for the lazy writters so they can go back to the status quo
the dinosaurs existing makes no sense in the curve
They aren’t in the curve anymore, not sure why he said that in the vid
The Dino’s sealed a hole between the multiverses, they didn’t fix the finite curve which was completely destroyed by Morty
The Dino’s are, like you said, a being smarter and more powerful than Rick (he may have countered their telepathy but he still ran after throwing the rock) and so are from outside the central finite curve
Thank you bro, I didn't understand it the first time I watched it
A universe without Rick and Morty? Sounds like a dream to me...
Actually, dude they just repaired the rift. They didn’t repair the finite curve if Rick says the curb is repaired, it’s considered to be repaired, but until we get actual confirmation it is halfway repaired, but not the way how the other Rick’s would like it to be so there is still a possibility that evil Rick will want to repair it and trap Rick in there so that way he won’t mess with evil, Rick stuff, and keep him out of his business.
I've seen this idea used for imagining a world without colonialism. Puts a different spin on this episode
Reasons for a dimensional lock out:
1: Ricks working together to Trap rick prime, who as we know killed ALL versions of their wife.
2: we saw how chaotic it is outside the CFC random portal jumping people everywhere. Even multiversal collisions where each portal is killing other versions of the same people infinitely.. outside the curve is not safe.
Eye patch morty had to shield himself off to survive.
3: only ricks actively use IDPT, some beings are known to have it, but even the dinosaurs only appear after the curve breaks.
It took so long to understand but I just kept rewatching it and finally got it😁 Great explanation bro👍
OK then answer that question! :
When he trapped all the universes were rick is the most dominant person, how is there Doofy rick?
My assumption is that everyone in the universe he belongs to is just as doofy as him. Or even more so. So he’s still the most superior in his universe, he’s just a pearl in a sea of diamonds.
@@Keanuthelegend actually pretty convincing answer you got there! It's like everybody in his universe is eating shit but he's the only one who doesn't eat diarrhea
@@Keanuthelegend Doofus Rick's universe was shown in more depth in some comics that are cannon to the show. In the comics it shows that his universe has a Jerry that is basically rick. As in hes incredibly high intelligence and has a ton of power, way past doofus rick. So I don't think they were really thinking about the finite curve back then, so he's more of an outlier.
If your interested in hearing more about the comic you can find a rundown of it in a youtube video titled "Jerry Smith Who Became God"
In the comics he fights c-137 Rick and beats him up multiple times, aswell as thinking ahead past Rick and disarming his bombs. This Jerry never met a Rick before yet instantly was able to outsmart him and think past him.
Rick C-137 even has to admit defeat and call in the council to deal with him since he cant do it.
And then Jerry within seconds, takes full control over the council.
@@Keanuthelegend doofus Jerry: am i a joke to you?
whats even better is they never specified that its about Ricks in general that had to be the smartest in that curve. i believe they meant Rick-137 specifically.
the finite curves is all the universes where 137 would be the smartest being in existence.
I remember watching a scientist react to the first season and saying "it should be an infinite curve, if its following multiple universes theory" and then season 5 brought it up and how rick built the finite curve
There’s a thing like this in Star Wars where it’s called the barrier because the far outlanders are actually not from the Star Wars universe and they’re possibly the reason for the barrier
But what about doofus rick
He is still the smartest rick in his world you have to understand that infinite mens all possibly are there in his world average IQ is about 50. This is just speculations but him beating the smaters in his own univers is also a possibility.
Thanks for just repeating, almost verbatim, What we already learned in the show really needed that.
"Non-sigma Ricks"? Lmao kinda cringe bro
What??
@@xsju it's just cringe idk what more you want
@@ross719 i dont think he meant it in that way 😐
@@xsju what other way is there?
The Central Finite Curve is basically its own sub-multiverse within the rest of the infinite multiverse, and since Ricks put a wall around infinity, the number of universes where Rick is the smartest is still infinite, which I gotta say… separating the multiverse is pretty damn impressive
Technically speaking, as long as Rick is the most dominant being in crossovers they can technically happen still
Because Evil Morty was likely just made to be a sidekick, he finally betrayed and killed his Rick, scanned his mind then scanned a buck of other Rick minds until he figured out how to leave.
The technically the doofus dimension should be outside of the curve because it’s the universe where jerry is the most dominant over a rick
should be the case but doofus jerry was introduced way before the CFC was so it’s just a plot hole. the same thing can be said for evil morty as well, he is the most dominant in his universe so he should be outside of CFC.
The story and lore for this show is honestly insane
I don’t think people realize the “Central Finite Curve” literally says in the name that there is NOT an infinite amount of universe contained within, meaning the universes where Rick is the smartest is not infinite. Makes sense then as to why Rick is hesitant with swapping universes and how he used to stress how limited that action was.
Thank you for making this short and straightforward.💯
So thats why the dinos are back, mind blown right there
this is really helpful thank you
The CFC is a prison Rick created to keep Rick Prime from escaping. Because some of infinity is a smaller place to look through than all of infinity.
The Doylian explanation is that it's the line where the writers have decided "okay this is the absolute farthest we'll stretch reality"
Perfect explanation. 😊
I feel that other curves or barriers could exist, since there are universes where Rick isn’t the smartest, there could be some equivalent to a citadel of ricks, but being another person and they could make one
Imagine outside the finite curve is all Mortys being the Apex without ricks
The rift is closed, but they left it open for too long, enough time for anything to get into get in.
I bet that Rick himself would spit on the "Sigma" concept tbh
Yeah those skull feet, I wish I could have heard them sing.
"its the drunk crashers that get us in trouble"
also the portal gun shoots green portals which can only travel in the finite curve while evil morty uses yellow portals that are universal
The best explanation !!
This would have been better represented if the red circle went to the border of the square, and the green circle was just the dots in the middle, with the circle being purple to represent the finite curve.
I love the idea that the Evil Morty coukd have gone into any of the dimensions outside of the finine curve but somehow ended up in a blender dimension
He's going to find the finite curve where he's the apex of those universes 😂
Well it just means that in Morty’s universe Rick can die for real or be outsmarted by something smarter.
technically, the easter egg with fords items falling through one of the random portals shows that gravity falls is in the central finite curve
You must not forget that the green area is also infinite, so theres an infinite amount of universes where rick is the smartest being but there's also a bigger infinite amount of universes where he's not
With that intellect and power rick is a god
Rick and Rick prime existed and the universe went: ok you are now supreme
Im pretty sure the central finite curve is completely destroyed, as we saw on Evil Morty's hologram when he checks after escaping. So now EVERY conceivable universe is now open to our Rick and Morty. The dinosaurs just patched the unstable rift across dimensions and the space between them. Rick and still go to any universe now with the portal gun with the central finite curve gone
Don't forget, he was immediately killed off too.
As a fun fact there's probably infinite central finite curves cause if Rick can everyone can
I believe you got it almost correct cuz we have seen Rick's that are completely stupid. The finite curve what would be the realities where the Rick's exist at all. All of the realities where he doesn't exist or left out
I think a line in the middle of the screen wouldve shown it better, since there are an infinite amount of universes where rick is the smartest and an infinite amount where he isnt
The reason why ricks like doofus rick exists is because his universe is in between the purple and green lines
When you look at it the 3 most OP characters in the series are our (the shows main) Rick, then Rick Prime, and Evil Morty. Evil Morty seems to be at the same level as the main show Rick. And Rick Prime mentioned how the only 2 Rick's in existence to actually invent portal travel were himself and the shows main Rick, meaning they are clearly the two most intelligent and powerful of all the Rick's in existence. Our main Rick has shown himself to be far superior to literally every Rick in existence, and eventually even killed Rick Prime...with Evil Morty providing some major help but he wouldn't have done so unless our main Rick was actually worth helping to Evil Morty which Morty mentions when he acknowledges that this Rick is "a little different". Evil Morty doesn't seem to be any smarter than our Rick but he does reign in errant emotions and doesn't get distracted like our Rick which means he simply achieves what he sets out to do without any of the extraneous nonsense and does it much quicker and more direct than Rick does. I think if they really fought to the death that they'd be at a stale mate, or eventually just decide its stupid to fight each other.
But even though our Rick is THE Rick at the top, he's influenced by our Morty and when Morty truly wants/needs something Rick does whatever he can to make sure it's done, which makes main Morty also crazy OP by virtue of having the most OP Rick looking out for him.
I mean the existence of even one if those curves means that there are an infinite number of other curves outside of that one. Leading to an absolute collage of vendiagrams that interlap with different variables.