Super fun how modern the old 9.3x62 looks compared to the rest of the field 😁. I came up with a warm handload with a 250 grain AccuBond, awesome combo. Even out of a short 20 inch barrel the .494 G1 BC still gets the max point-blank range to 220 yards with a corridor of +- 2“
Great video! I have a Re-barreled Left Hand M77 in 9.3x62 and have used it the past 3 years to take Blacktail, Black Bear and Big Bodied costal Roosevelt Elk with Excellent Results. I also have a Ruger African in 375 Ruger which i plan on using this year for Deer, bear and elk, just to mix it up a bit. Both cartridges are easy to handload for and getting good accuracy and consistency have been pain free. I sort of view the 375 Ruger as the modern incarnation of the 9.3x62, with both being designed to be used in inexpensive, no frills rifles to hunt anything on the planet at standard ranges. AJ
I’m currently practicing and developing a load for my m77 in 9.3x62 for an elk hunt in a couple months. Used a 6.5x284 last year. Worked fine. But I think the 9.3 would be more “decisive.” Hope I can get good enough to get some range 400yds or so. My 6.5 shot last year was at about 425yds.
I love the old 9.3x57mm, lots of good memories. I think you are right the Husqvarna are the main folks to chamber them in any kind of number. I have seen several custom rifles in them over the years. I know Blaser made R93 barrels in them and I think I have seen at least one R8 barrel in the cartridge. Great Video.
An entertaining and educational video! I was familiar with some of the cartridges but not all. In his “COMPLETE BOOK OF RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS” Jack O’Connor wrote that if he was allowed to have just one rifle to hunt the world over it would be a 375 H&H Magnum. Of course he went on to say that if he was allowed a second rifle it would be a 270 Winchester.😅 I have a Husqvarna 9.3x62 that I got from a gentleman who grew up hunting in Africa where his father was a government game ranger. Now he lives in the states, arranges African Safaris and still hunts in Africa. He told me that he had taken 3 Cape Buffalo in recent years with the 9.3x62 that I got from him. It was one of his extra rifles. Interestingly, during one of our conversations he said that his two favorite rifles for hunting the world over are the 300 Winchester Magnum and the 375 Weatherby Magnum. He likes the Weatherby because you can accurately shoot the standard 375 H&H cartridge in the Weatherby and then you have perfectly fire formed brass for the Weatherby. Happy hunting boys and girls!😊
Knew a man who used an older double 9.3x72R which has similar ballistics to our old .38-55. I have used a 9.3x74R O/U and the 9.3x62 is a long time favorite which I've used on a a variety of big game. Other friends were impressed with mine hence acquired their own. I had a .376 Steyr but traded it as I favored the 9.3x62. I also have used the .375 H&H and it's such a classic I simply favor it over the other .375's. I did have a .375-06 but this before I got the 9.3x62 which again I favored. In my younger days I had a 9.5x57 Mannlicher Schoenauer which I did like for wild boar as an example. Used the 9.3x57 and 9x57 as well.
I like my 35 whelen. Pretty similar in ballistics as the 9.3x62 But I wouldn’t shoot either of those if you don’t load your own ammo, in America at least
I went with the .375 Ruger and really like it. My only issue is getting brass. Now that Hornady has created the 6.5, 7mm and 300 PRC cartridges based on this case it seems to be using up all the production.
With reference to the Steyr Scout Rifle & what Copper invisioned. I believe the ideal version would be a krag jorgensen action either rebarreled/ rebored & chambered to 303 british. I had one in 6.5x55 with both iron sites & 2-7 see thru mounted revolver scope (i.e., midway up the barrel.) As soon as you brought it up to sholder, your eyes were in line with either sight choice.
Very informative, thank you. Had you done a little editing to represent each cartridge and a few stills to highlight the various topics, I'm sure many interested people less aware of your topic than some, would surely have been more able to finnish the video with more knowledge retained. Just a thought.
My favorite is the 370 Sako Magnum (9.3x66). Why? Good power plus rifles that hold 5+1 (6) cartridges...the smaller bullets mimic the trajectory of the 30/06. 250gr Nosler AB at 2700 fps (4046 Ft/lb), 286gr Swift at 2550 fps (4129 Ft/lb), and 320gr Hawk at 2400 fps (4092 Ft/lb). Many handload the older 9.3x62 to similar power levels. These are over SAAMI pressure spec, but the mfg of factory ammo is usually around 38k to 44k in pressure. Safely low for older rifles, so there's usually some decent room for improvement in newer rifles. Sako simply made a new cartridge with the 370 to keep things safe, but modernize the older 9.3's to higher a pressure standard. And for reference, the rim to shoulder length is .249" longer (powder space) than the 30/06 or 35 Whelan, and .158" longer than the 9.3x62....
The Swiss P also means that 338 Lapua rifles could be rechambered to 500 Jeffery with only a barrel swap, and the 9.3 Brenneke is awesome in the SVDK and Tigr 9.
I had a .376 Steyr in a very light Steyr bolt action. I shot it 14 times. It was very accurate but I attribute that rifle to some shoulder damage I still suffer from even after surgery. Probably would have been better if that rifle had weighed 10 lbs instead of about 6.5.
Love my ruger African in 375 ruger, kicks less than my tikka hunter 270 and hits with the authority of an absolute hammer, and even loaded with 260gr nosler accbounds you get a serious 400-600 yard gun. I think the trajectory is similar to a 180 gr 30-06?
Any idea what your Ruger African weighs fully loaded with scope, full magazine, etc.? You're pretty close with the 30-06 trajectory comparison. Shooting as flat as a 30-06 with 50% more kinetic energy at 300 yards is pretty impressive!
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog never weighted it but it’s around 8.5-9.5 pounds full equipped. It’s funny I typed that comment and you stated the same thing later in the video awesome. Yes definitely a lot of energy!
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog Hey just wondering the general barrel life of a 375 ruger? I know it’s a lot of powder but it’s not necessarily overbore by any means. I’m thinking it’d be pretty similar to a 30-06 barrel life, couldn’t really find any information on this anywhere probably because if you can afford to shoot out a 375 barrel then you’ll be fine 😂 thanks
We have over 3,000 rounds through our Ruger Guide Gun in .375 Ruger and it's still going strong. Not sure what the barrel life is of the cartridge, but it's more than that!
I don’t think Cooper would have hated the 6.5CM. He would have recognized it as an ideological descendant of the 6.5x55 and a good choice for jurisdictions that ban military cartridges like 308, and for women and children. In person, and I only met him twice, he was more flexible than in his writing.
Missing the .375 flanged (rimmed) magnum NE. I just bought 60 Hornady cases. This came out with the .375 H&H belted. The flanged is slightly longer than the belted. I will use it in a T/C single shot for cape buffalo. Flanged shoots 300 grain at the recommended 2400 FPS. Flanged is better cycling than belted for T/C.
Do you happen to know the 375 Swiss P H2o Case volume / capacity? I'm guessing similar to the 378 weatherby, but I can not find that information anywhere.
Can you do a best of big bore? 375-50? I want to book a safari with you guys in the next 5 years...I have to start with buying a big bore! (A want not a need lol)
My notice didn't the 45 calibers. You left out like the most popular one, the 4570 and in this 1, you left out the 375 Gibbs. Which I guess somehow is slightly more than the three seventy five shy tech
As far as I know, the 375 Gibbs is not a SAAMi or even a CIP standardized cartridge, which is why I did not include it in this video. I did not include any 45 caliber rounds in this video because it's a video about 9.3mm and 375 caliber cartridges.
Overall I appreciate your video but I think you did a disservice to the .38-55 Win. and .375 Win. Calibers. Although, at the end of the day, they are not as sturdy as some of the other 375s, they are not as week as you portrayed them. You need to go back and examine the Buffalo Bore offerings for these calibers. They give great performance with minimal recoil. With Buffalo Bore ammo, you can take elk, moose and grizzlies under 150 yards. Although the .375 does not have a light load for cowboy action, the .38-55 does. And so, you have cowboy loads, deer loads, and moose/grizz loads. The .375, just deer loads and moose/grizz loads. You are right saying most factory loads for these calibers are for whitetails but if you put better ammo in rifles chambered for these, you get quite a thumper with recoil less than .444 Marlin, .450 Marlin, and .45-70 Govt. with moose/grizz ammo (not anemic 405 grain Rem. CoreLokt). So, why not use them? There's really no reason to avoid them.
Thanks for your comment. You're right in that I should have included some of the Buffalo Bore offerings for the 38-55 and 375 Win in this episode (same with some of the other cartridges). However, while I admit I may have been too rough on the 38-55 and that it's certainly more capable with that heavy Buffalo Bore ammo than is the case with the very sedate loadings from other companies, I did specifically state the 375 Winchester is a great heavy hitter at close range for deer, hogs, black bear, elk, and moose in this episode. What more did you want me to say? And what else could a guy reasonably do with the 375 Winchester using more powerful Buffalo Bore ammo that he couldn't do with those other factory loads I mentioned?
338 Win Mag is a higher velocity loading that will shoot a smaller diameter and (usually) lighter bullet faster. So, it will have a flatter trajectory and will probably retain more energy at longer range. But I'd say the 9.3x62 is probably a harder hitter up close. Details will vary depending on the exact load you're talking about here though.
9.3x62 case has basically the same dimensions as the 30/06 case using a .366 cal bullet and is very similar in ballistics to the 35 Whelen that uses the 30/06 case and .358 cal bullets.
9.3X64 is dead in the USA. Cases are only made by RWS and ammo and cases are not imported. Cases cannot readily be made from another ( grind belt and rim down on 300WM type case and then reform). The .376 Steyr cartridge is in itself a good design. Forget the scout rifle idea. Use it in a regular Mauser type action with a magazine box that allows not having to shove bullets too far into the case and a proper length barrel and rifle weight you end up with a setup that shoots a 300 grain bullet at 2400 fps--the sweet spot. Just what Dr. Kevin Robertson says you should load your .375 H&H to......but with LESS recoil.
Superior ammo has brass and reloads the 9.4 X64. My model 70 in that caliber shoots 250 accubond at 2800 286 Nisler partition at 2600 and 320 grain woodleigh at 2435. All loads shoot 1/2 inch groups
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Super fun how modern the old 9.3x62 looks compared to the rest of the field 😁. I came up with a warm handload with a 250 grain AccuBond, awesome combo. Even out of a short 20 inch barrel the .494 G1 BC still gets the max point-blank range to 220 yards with a corridor of +- 2“
100%! That 250gr AB is a great bullet, especially out of the 9.3!
my 9.3x62 Norma Vulkan 0-150m works decent, actually. Old caliber or not, same stuff as .35 Whelen
yup. this is a serious and under understood hunting cartridge for north american game.
Great video! I have a Re-barreled Left Hand M77 in 9.3x62 and have used it the past 3 years to take Blacktail, Black Bear and Big Bodied costal Roosevelt Elk with Excellent Results. I also have a Ruger African in 375 Ruger which i plan on using this year for Deer, bear and elk, just to mix it up a bit. Both cartridges are easy to handload for and getting good accuracy and consistency have been pain free. I sort of view the 375 Ruger as the modern incarnation of the 9.3x62, with both being designed to be used in inexpensive, no frills rifles to hunt anything on the planet at standard ranges.
AJ
Glad you enjoyed it! You're a man after my own heart with the 9.3x62 and 375 Ruger! Two great cartridges!
I’m currently practicing and developing a load for my m77 in 9.3x62 for an elk hunt in a couple months.
Used a 6.5x284 last year. Worked fine. But I think the 9.3 would be more “decisive.” Hope I can get good enough to get some range 400yds or so.
My 6.5 shot last year was at about 425yds.
Left handed M77 in 9.3!?! Man after my own heart! Sounds like a great rifle. What bullet are you using on black bear and deer?
I love the old 9.3x57mm, lots of good memories. I think you are right the Husqvarna are the main folks to chamber them in any kind of number. I have seen several custom rifles in them over the years. I know Blaser made R93 barrels in them and I think I have seen at least one R8 barrel in the cartridge.
Great Video.
An entertaining and educational video! I was familiar with some of the cartridges but not all. In his “COMPLETE BOOK OF RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS” Jack O’Connor wrote that if he was allowed to have just one rifle to hunt the world over it would be a 375 H&H Magnum. Of course he went on to say that if he was allowed a second rifle it would be a 270 Winchester.😅
I have a Husqvarna 9.3x62 that I got from a gentleman who grew up hunting in Africa where his father was a government game ranger. Now he lives in the states, arranges African Safaris and still hunts in Africa. He told me that he had taken 3 Cape Buffalo in recent years with the 9.3x62 that I got from him. It was one of his extra rifles. Interestingly, during one of our conversations he said that his two favorite rifles for hunting the world over are the 300 Winchester Magnum and the 375 Weatherby Magnum. He likes the Weatherby because you can accurately shoot the standard 375 H&H cartridge in the Weatherby and then you have perfectly fire formed brass for the Weatherby. Happy hunting boys and girls!😊
Glad you enjoyed this video!
Knew a man who used an older double 9.3x72R which has similar ballistics to our old .38-55. I have used a 9.3x74R O/U and the 9.3x62 is a long time favorite which I've used on a a variety of big game. Other friends were impressed with mine hence acquired their own. I had a .376 Steyr but traded it as I favored the 9.3x62. I also have used the .375 H&H and it's such a classic I simply favor it over the other .375's. I did have a .375-06 but this before I got the 9.3x62 which again I favored. In my younger days I had a 9.5x57 Mannlicher Schoenauer which I did like for wild boar as an example. Used the 9.3x57 and 9x57 as well.
Good deal all around. Thanks for your comment!
If the Winchester Model 70 in 375 H&H was the old school one gun to hunt the world, a Ruger Guide Gun in 375 Ruger should be its successor.
You may well be right...
Haven't seen any for sale in Canada though.
My 6.5x55 Mauser Carbine is a Husquevarna. Outstanding shooter for an old MilSurp even with a 2 out of 3 barrel rating. They know how to make a rifle.
I like my 35 whelen. Pretty similar in ballistics as the 9.3x62 But I wouldn’t shoot either of those if you don’t load your own ammo, in America at least
Big fan of your podcast!!
Thanks!
I love my Ruger Hawkeye in .375 Ruger. Just got the rifle back from the gunsmith, stock has been replaced and bedded with a Boyds.
Good deal. Boyds makes great stocks and I think you made a good choice with your rifle, caliber, and stock combination!
I went with the .375 Ruger and really like it. My only issue is getting brass. Now that Hornady has created the 6.5, 7mm and 300 PRC cartridges based on this case it seems to be using up all the production.
Yeah, getting factory ammo isn't a problem, but getting brass is. And buying factory ammo for brass is an expensive proposition!
I just got a used sako 85L Bavarian 24 inch barrel in.375 h&h. Great video! Haven't shot it yet.
With reference to the Steyr Scout Rifle & what Copper invisioned.
I believe the ideal version would be a krag jorgensen action either rebarreled/ rebored & chambered to 303 british.
I had one in 6.5x55 with both iron sites & 2-7 see thru mounted revolver scope (i.e., midway up the barrel.)
As soon as you brought it up to sholder, your eyes were in line with either sight choice.
Very informative, thank you.
Had you done a little editing to represent each cartridge and a few stills to highlight the various topics, I'm sure many interested people less aware of your topic than some, would surely have been more able to finnish the video with more knowledge retained.
Just a thought.
Glad it was helpful! And good idea for the future!
I have a 376 Steyr rifle in the Pro Hunter configuration. I love it. It shoots the 270 grain loads best. I don’t think it is offered anymore
2-barrel shotgun/ rifle guns are often referred to as “Cape Guns” originally used by homesteading Boers
My favorite is the 370 Sako Magnum (9.3x66). Why? Good power plus rifles that hold 5+1 (6) cartridges...the smaller bullets mimic the trajectory of the 30/06.
250gr Nosler AB at 2700 fps (4046 Ft/lb), 286gr Swift at 2550 fps (4129 Ft/lb), and 320gr Hawk at 2400 fps (4092 Ft/lb).
Many handload the older 9.3x62 to similar power levels. These are over SAAMI pressure spec, but the mfg of factory ammo is usually around 38k to 44k in pressure. Safely low for older rifles, so there's usually some decent room for improvement in newer rifles. Sako simply made a new cartridge with the 370 to keep things safe, but modernize the older 9.3's to higher a pressure standard.
And for reference, the rim to shoulder length is .249" longer (powder space) than the 30/06 or 35 Whelan, and .158" longer than the 9.3x62....
The Swiss P also means that 338 Lapua rifles could be rechambered to 500 Jeffery with only a barrel swap, and the 9.3 Brenneke is awesome in the SVDK and Tigr 9.
I had a .376 Steyr in a very light Steyr bolt action. I shot it 14 times. It was very accurate but I attribute that rifle to some shoulder damage I still suffer from even after surgery. Probably would have been better if that rifle had weighed 10 lbs instead of about 6.5.
Yikes!
Love my ruger African in 375 ruger, kicks less than my tikka hunter 270 and hits with the authority of an absolute hammer, and even loaded with 260gr nosler accbounds you get a serious 400-600 yard gun. I think the trajectory is similar to a 180 gr 30-06?
Any idea what your Ruger African weighs fully loaded with scope, full magazine, etc.? You're pretty close with the 30-06 trajectory comparison. Shooting as flat as a 30-06 with 50% more kinetic energy at 300 yards is pretty impressive!
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog never weighted it but it’s around 8.5-9.5 pounds full equipped. It’s funny I typed that comment and you stated the same thing later in the video awesome. Yes definitely a lot of energy!
Great minds! 😎
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog Hey just wondering the general barrel life of a 375 ruger? I know it’s a lot of powder but it’s not necessarily overbore by any means. I’m thinking it’d be pretty similar to a 30-06 barrel life, couldn’t really find any information on this anywhere probably because if you can afford to shoot out a 375 barrel then you’ll be fine 😂 thanks
We have over 3,000 rounds through our Ruger Guide Gun in .375 Ruger and it's still going strong. Not sure what the barrel life is of the cartridge, but it's more than that!
The 376 Steyr made for Jeff Cooper is the only one that is marked Dragoon, if I recall my trip to his gun room accurately.
I don’t think Cooper would have hated the 6.5CM. He would have recognized it as an ideological descendant of the 6.5x55 and a good choice for jurisdictions that ban military cartridges like 308, and for women and children. In person, and I only met him twice, he was more flexible than in his writing.
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There is also the 9.3x57 Mauser. Norma loads a 235 grain bullet at 2,362 FPS.
Watch the video and you'll see I didn't actually forget the 9.3x57...
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog Sorry, I was just looking at the photo.
All good!
in belgium we call a combination gun with 2 barrels (1shotgun and 1 rifle barrell) a mixed
Very interesting, thanks!
I feel like im the only guy on here who's going to get the 'mean girls' reference. 😂 Thanks for that!
Haha, glad you enjoyed that!
Missing the .375 flanged (rimmed) magnum NE. I just bought 60 Hornady cases. This came out with the .375 H&H belted. The flanged is slightly longer than the belted. I will use it in a T/C single shot for cape buffalo. Flanged shoots 300 grain at the recommended 2400 FPS. Flanged is better cycling than belted for T/C.
Sorry, you do mention this cartridge.
No worries. Just didn't have one to put in the photo
Do you happen to know the 375 Swiss P H2o Case volume / capacity? I'm guessing similar to the 378 weatherby, but I can not find that information anywhere.
And the sadly forgotten one 9,3*70Dwm ,based on a .404 case in late 1920s . .375 RUM decades prior -
Not familiar with that one
Could you do a 35 whelen vs 9.3x62 comparison? I heard they have similar ballistics.
Can you do a best of big bore? 375-50? I want to book a safari with you guys in the next 5 years...I have to start with buying a big bore! (A want not a need lol)
Sounds good on all counts!
My notice didn't the 45 calibers. You left out like the most popular one, the 4570 and in this 1, you left out the 375 Gibbs. Which I guess somehow is slightly more than the three seventy five shy tech
As far as I know, the 375 Gibbs is not a SAAMi or even a CIP standardized cartridge, which is why I did not include it in this video. I did not include any 45 caliber rounds in this video because it's a video about 9.3mm and 375 caliber cartridges.
Overall I appreciate your video but I think you did a disservice to the .38-55 Win. and .375 Win. Calibers. Although, at the end of the day, they are not as sturdy as some of the other 375s, they are not as week as you portrayed them. You need to go back and examine the Buffalo Bore offerings for these calibers. They give great performance with minimal recoil. With Buffalo Bore ammo, you can take elk, moose and grizzlies under 150 yards. Although the .375 does not have a light load for cowboy action, the .38-55 does. And so, you have cowboy loads, deer loads, and moose/grizz loads. The .375, just deer loads and moose/grizz loads. You are right saying most factory loads for these calibers are for whitetails but if you put better ammo in rifles chambered for these, you get quite a thumper with recoil less than .444 Marlin, .450 Marlin, and .45-70 Govt. with moose/grizz ammo (not anemic 405 grain Rem. CoreLokt). So, why not use them? There's really no reason to avoid them.
Thanks for your comment. You're right in that I should have included some of the Buffalo Bore offerings for the 38-55 and 375 Win in this episode (same with some of the other cartridges). However, while I admit I may have been too rough on the 38-55 and that it's certainly more capable with that heavy Buffalo Bore ammo than is the case with the very sedate loadings from other companies, I did specifically state the 375 Winchester is a great heavy hitter at close range for deer, hogs, black bear, elk, and moose in this episode. What more did you want me to say? And what else could a guy reasonably do with the 375 Winchester using more powerful Buffalo Bore ammo that he couldn't do with those other factory loads I mentioned?
And what about the 9.3x82?
Did you miss the 9.5 x 57?
9:13
How does the 9.3x62 compare to the 338 win mag?
338 Win Mag is a higher velocity loading that will shoot a smaller diameter and (usually) lighter bullet faster. So, it will have a flatter trajectory and will probably retain more energy at longer range. But I'd say the 9.3x62 is probably a harder hitter up close. Details will vary depending on the exact load you're talking about here though.
9.3x62 case has basically the same dimensions as the 30/06 case using a .366 cal bullet and is very similar in ballistics to the 35 Whelen that uses the 30/06 case and .358 cal bullets.
375 Taylor fan
Tell me more about the 375 Taylor
9.3X64 is dead in the USA. Cases are only made by RWS and ammo and cases are not imported. Cases cannot readily be made from another ( grind belt and rim down on 300WM type case and then reform). The .376 Steyr cartridge is in itself a good design. Forget the scout rifle idea. Use it in a regular Mauser type action with a magazine box that allows not having to shove bullets too far into the case and a proper length barrel and rifle weight you end up with a setup that shoots a 300 grain bullet at 2400 fps--the sweet spot. Just what Dr. Kevin Robertson says you should load your .375 H&H to......but with LESS recoil.
Not a bad idea you have with the 376 Steyr. It was a good concept, but I think it was just poorly executed.
Superior ammo has brass and reloads the 9.4 X64. My model 70 in that caliber shoots 250 accubond at 2800 286 Nisler partition at 2600 and 320 grain woodleigh at 2435. All loads shoot 1/2 inch groups
9,3x64 Brenecke? 😄😄😄
Did you watch the video? Or just look at the photo?
Seems like the 375 Dakota is pretty much nonexistent
I think you're right
Neck 300 PRC up to 375
Doing that would probably give results similar to the 375 RUM.
You forget 9,3x 64
Did you actually watch the video? Or just look at the photo?
Overloked. Sorry
All good!
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