Subaru Crosstrek Oil Filter Showdown: USA vs Japan

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  • @hamishbarnes7083
    @hamishbarnes7083 4 роки тому +124

    Cheers for the 100% throttle crank to build oil pressure trick! I will be switching to DIY oil changes for my next on my 17 WRX.

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +9

      Glad to help

    • @jasonbeallie5535
      @jasonbeallie5535 4 роки тому +2

      Does that work for Subarus with push button start?

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +13

      @@jasonbeallie5535 it should operate just the same, as long as the throttle is fully pinned to the floor.

    • @jasonbeallie5535
      @jasonbeallie5535 4 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the tip 👍.

    • @edwardtan4631
      @edwardtan4631 4 роки тому +2

      Is that really needed? Doesn't the oil in the filter just drain back down when the engine is off? If that's the case would it be wise to do the this everytime, especially when the car has been sitting dornan few days?

  • @charger19691
    @charger19691 4 роки тому +22

    I still say that the blue Subaru filter is a slightly modified version of the FRAM 7317 oil filter that you can get just about anywhere. For what it’s worth, I talked to a Fram engineer one time years ago when Allied Signal was involved with them, and he told me about the black adhesive / sealer they use on the Fram extra guard and tough guard oil filters back then and he assured me that the stuff is tough as nails. It permeates into the filter media and the fiberboard end caps and reinforces them. Is it as tough as metal end caps? No. But it can handle a tremendous amount of heat and abuse. Also, the blue filters are designed to last the recommended service intervals in Subaru maintenance schedule. And also they maintain engine warranty requirements on factory warrantied Subarus. So believe it or not, the blue filters work and they work well. Also, the bypass valve is manufactured and set to open for Subaru specs. I personally don’t go past 3,000 miles with the blue filter, but I’m a oil change fanatic. So if you use the blue Subaru filters, don’t sweat it, as long as you change them regularly. They are not a filter to “push to the limit”. Also, NAPA Gold Oil filters are excellent quality. I’ve used them too and recommend them.

  • @HugoHardinge
    @HugoHardinge 4 роки тому +8

    I've had my Crosstrek for over 3 years now and it's just hit 83k km. I haven't ever really thought about switching oil filters, but I'm convinced that the Japanese ones are so much better quality. The USA seems super cheap, and I don't want that cardboard fiber in my oil anymore! Thanks for the info and tips! Love the vids!

    • @Backs4more
      @Backs4more 2 роки тому +3

      We get Japanese made Subarus in the UK and we just do not see the issues that seem to occur in the US. First time I heard about CVT issues was on this channel after 12 years of Subaru ownership. Same with windshield cracks, oil consumption and other issues.
      We also have much longer service schedules with a service and oil change at 12,000 miles or 12 months.

  • @trustgtr33
    @trustgtr33 4 роки тому +9

    had my 2013 xv for 6 years and 65k miles without a single drop of oil consumption, did my service at 5k miles though with ultra 5w40..tokyo roki filters

  • @vincentrobinette1507
    @vincentrobinette1507 4 роки тому +20

    If you open the hood on a brand new Subaru, you will see the Japanese filter on the engine. When you go back to the dealership for an oil change, you will likely see the US made Blue filter.

    • @bearcam9746
      @bearcam9746 3 роки тому +1

      had a blue filter on 2019 impreza with 10 miles on it

    • @AaronMal1978
      @AaronMal1978 2 роки тому +2

      @@bearcam9746 your Impreza was built at SIA in Lafayette.

    • @victormaciasjr.1615
      @victormaciasjr.1615 Рік тому

      Not always the case I purchased a 21 WRX and the dealer has been using the black filters on my car. After watching this video I’ll be asking to make sure it stays that way. That blue looks like trouble the way it looks so cheaply built.

  • @Snakeplisskin440
    @Snakeplisskin440 4 роки тому +5

    I've been using the black Japanese filters on my EZ36 since I got it at 35k miles. Now at 115k. All my oil analysis came back with great results.

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +1

      Yup, the H6 oil filters have always been the black Japanese filters. They never made a blue US filter for the H6.

  • @WilloW0024
    @WilloW0024 4 роки тому +42

    Lol at "they really need to stop hiring 200 lbs gorillas for lube tech."

  • @mossmiller
    @mossmiller 4 роки тому +8

    I always try to use Tokyo Roki, best filter made for Subaru (and Mazda, as well). Thanks for the lead to that dealer in Houston, good deal at $18 for a twin pack including shipping. Previously, the only place I could find them was through Parts Souq, a dealer in Dubai. Their prices are low, but shipping is expensive to the US, so five filters averaged $12 each. Subaru filters have a higher bypass pressure than other brands, not sure if this matters but prefer to stay with OEM. My 13 Impreza not burning extra oil, now at 80K miles.

    • @tianalosado5506
      @tianalosado5506 2 роки тому

      You don’t burn extra oil with the Tokyo Roki’s? I’ve always had the problem in my Crosstrek and even did an oil consumption test that came back fine 🤷🏻‍♀️ maybe I should switch to that filter instead

  • @kodessa
    @kodessa 4 роки тому +10

    Thank you for the advice on checking the oil after every fill up. I'm going to start doing that from now on.

    • @meticulouselectronics
      @meticulouselectronics 4 роки тому +2

      I miss when the pump jockey would check oil for you. I used to have a blast watching them trying to pop the hood on my 79 trans am.

  • @duolccmjohn
    @duolccmjohn 4 роки тому +6

    Thank you for your videos, I have a 2019 Subaru Crosstrek. I love the car, My whole family has Subaru vehicles and your information helps.

  • @DR-nc8nc
    @DR-nc8nc 4 роки тому +8

    Thanks for the tip I just ordered a few of the black filters. I hope that these remain available If not I will goto Wix XP filters.

  • @davidrobinson6495
    @davidrobinson6495 4 роки тому +67

    15:01 for filter comparison

    • @chinnerz2
      @chinnerz2 4 роки тому +4

      David Robinson your doing God’s work David.

    • @forgedsteelwrench9249
      @forgedsteelwrench9249 4 роки тому +3

      I truly appreciate ppl like you😎.

    • @MAN-hk9wq
      @MAN-hk9wq 3 роки тому +1

      You’re the man

  • @jimren5638
    @jimren5638 4 роки тому +7

    Why do some people think they need to tighten oil plugs and filters as tight as they can possibly get them? Amazing.
    Quite a difference between those filters. I'll use the Japanese ones for sure. Thanks.

  • @shehryarjawed6917
    @shehryarjawed6917 2 роки тому +3

    This is the definition of a perfect DIY video! Well done and thank you for the information! Now to check out more of your videos.

  • @ontariobill1
    @ontariobill1 4 роки тому +6

    2009 Subaru Legacy 2.5i with 386500 km no oil leak or burning, EJ253

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +3

      As it should be. 👍🏻

    • @JKD6991
      @JKD6991 4 роки тому

      ontariobill1 2008 Impreza 2.5i 51,760 miles no leak , no burning either!

  • @frankschefer9625
    @frankschefer9625 3 роки тому +2

    I love your videos. I have purchased two crosstrek’s for my kids. I am all about maintenance. They are 2017’s with 20k miles . Both are certifiedSubaru vehicle’s. We have had them a year and have never seen an oil change light . I change the oil every 3 months. I have service the front and rear differential. I will do CVT at 30k

  • @Mong0thepawn
    @Mong0thepawn 4 роки тому +3

    I will never use Fram filters! I put one on my wife's 2009 Forester many years ago and the rubber gasket blew out shortly after starting the engine for the first time after the oil change. Lucky for me I caught it before the engine ran out of oil. If I can't find the Japanese made filter for my FB25, I will use the Mobile 1 filters that I have been using on the EJ253 engines.

  • @michaeloborn3683
    @michaeloborn3683 4 роки тому +2

    Ever since I watched your oil filter comparison video I have been buying the Mazda filter for my 2000 Outback!

  • @jackdolphy8965
    @jackdolphy8965 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the super clear and informative video. I just did a first oil change on a 2022 Outback, used a 1/2” breaker bar to gently crack the drain plug open. A regular 3/8 drive seemed not easily up to the task. I suppose the crush washer adds a bit of resistance to winding the plug out. Your comparison of the filters was revealing! I’d like to see a comparison of used oil out of the same vehicle from 2 consecutive changes with the different filters - for sure an over the top comparison, and expensive especially if the two used oil amounts were analyzed by a lab. Anyways many thanks for a great channel.

  • @igypop.
    @igypop. Рік тому +2

    there are certain traits in this video that show this guy is a seasoned service person; reading out part numbers, not holding onto oil canisters, subtly double checking everything, cleaning up after every move, etc..

    • @JerseyJeff84
      @JerseyJeff84 2 місяці тому

      I was thinking that too. He has started to become my go-to for all things Subaru, since I purchased an Impreza.

  • @kostadinustavalkov1902
    @kostadinustavalkov1902 4 роки тому +4

    Just received my filters from your link and it's a real deal, ordering more now . Thanks a bunch Mr.Subaru 🙏

  • @CharlesAndCars
    @CharlesAndCars 4 роки тому +10

    It would be nice to see a comparison of a Purolator PL Series filter with the Japanese filter to see how it compares.

  • @mikef2492
    @mikef2492 4 роки тому +3

    Appreciate breaking down both filters I had no idea the difference was MFG locations! I’ve always been getting the black one and my friends keep telling me to switch to this blue one and well I’m glad I didn’t lol I didn’t know that trick but def gonna try it on my 17 WRX

  • @kamikazeslammer
    @kamikazeslammer 2 роки тому +3

    I love how you left the footage of the difficulty taking out the oil drain plug. It's seriously the reason I won't let Subaru touch my oil, even for free. I shouldn't need a 2 ft breaker bar to remove it...

    • @kamikazeslammer
      @kamikazeslammer 2 роки тому

      @@441meatloaf yes, the only people who have ever changed my oil was Subaru when they did it accidentally and me, who does it every few months without issues removing the drain plug. When Subaru factory or service does it, I have to pull out the breaker bar.

  • @barovelli
    @barovelli 4 роки тому +4

    I got one of those funnels for my birthday. Like seen in the video, it holds the bottle while you open another. Used to use some loose wobbly funnel I had to hold and hold the bottle. Little luxury.

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage 4 роки тому +25

    That funnel looks nice, but the price is painful! XD
    Overall, the Japanese filter is definitely higher build quality.
    I think the biggest difference is how well it would tolerate overdue changes.
    Eventually the cardboard and plastic in the USA filter will degrade.

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +6

      Yup. Definitely 👍🏻

    • @kennymiller138
      @kennymiller138 4 роки тому +2

      @Todd Jones yeah your totally right. I'm on 208,xxx on my 03 outback with every 3k oil changes with basic conventional oil and ebay 3 packs of oem American made subaru filters. So far so good with the past many changes. And numerous past cars in similiar shoes. High milage cars have had the funniest personalities XD.
      By the way MrSubaru, are you knowledgeable on the dual range transmissions Japan sold on the 4cyl N/A ones? I just swapped my 5sp oem to a low milage dual range oem imported one and wondered if these are still considered weak transmissions in the subaru 5 speed world? Not sure how internals and strengths compared to eachother. My oem one hot over hauled with some replaced bearings and spit out metal shards again 20k after the overhaul. Hence the low milage dual range now in it.

    • @MarzNet256
      @MarzNet256 2 роки тому +4

      I use a mobil 1 quart bottle with bottom cut off. Screws right into oil fill hole on my 2006 Matrix. You might give that a try.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 2 роки тому

      @@MarzNet256 Hahaha that's awesome!

  • @scottwilson8497
    @scottwilson8497 4 роки тому +9

    Thanks for the tip about circulating oil w/o starting engine. Will give that a try next oil change

  • @lukegong2890
    @lukegong2890 4 роки тому +1

    I have never paid for an oil change in 40 years of car ownership. Never had problems with 200 lb gorilla issues with filters or drainage plugs. Every time after getting work done on my lug nuts, I have had to loosen up and re-torque them so I can do a spare tire change on the road side. Unfortunately the lug nuts get over tightened by most shops, dealer or independent shop. My local Costco tire mechanics do seem to torque the wheels correctly.

  • @Marcohrx
    @Marcohrx 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for showing and making this type of videos. I have a 2018 Forester and im not planing to use that blue filter anymore.

  • @kristianhermann5971
    @kristianhermann5971 4 роки тому +3

    Agreed, those JPN filters are way better quality 👍 The crank tip seems unnecessary though. You're still moving the pistons and valve train over with the starter until the oil pressure builds. Since the starter turns the engine slower, this process takes longer vs just starting. Given the oil pump runs off the crank, in theory the same number of revolutions are needed to pressurize the system. Therefore the wear in both scenarios may actually be the same. By cranking longer though, you are causing more wear to the starter.

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому

      Cranking at 100-200 RPM wears much less than 1,500-2,000 RPM.

    • @kristianhermann5971
      @kristianhermann5971 4 роки тому

      Fine, but because the same revolutions of the oil pump are needed to build pressure and it's flow rate is RPM-dependent, wear is the same in both scenarios. One just takes longer.

    • @acquacow
      @acquacow Рік тому +2

      @@kristianhermann5971 it's not a wear thing, it's a preventing combustion so that the bearings on the rods and crank don't take a beating with no oil pressure to support them. The piston walls are already coated with oil and don't rely on oil pressure for protection.

  • @Bill_Me
    @Bill_Me 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for these Vids Mr. Subaru. I bought a 2013 Crosstrek with 166,000 miles on it...8 weeks and 1000 miles later I had to replace the Valve Body LoL. Put AMSOIL 0W20 Signature Synthetic in it and Amsoil Ea Oil filter. mileage increased by about 3 mpg👍.

  • @18magicMARKer
    @18magicMARKer 4 роки тому +5

    you should take the filter and see how long the filter material is there between the two.

  • @jmanc6941
    @jmanc6941 3 роки тому +1

    i have crosstrek and didn't know about the priming procedure. thanks for the tip.

  • @dalebabbitt6185
    @dalebabbitt6185 4 роки тому +3

    Good video, thank you!!! The older I get the more a lean towards OEM. I have a couple of Fords right now and I always get the Motorcraft oil filters. Construction, materials, dimensions and tolerances all play a role. It's not that much more money. Thanks again!!!

  • @warnerr5061
    @warnerr5061 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you 1000 times for the standard diy oil change and oil filter comparison. Already got the jdm oil filter on my eBay watch list ready for the next oil change.

  • @vasonar
    @vasonar 4 роки тому +1

    Another nice clean job. Speaking as a regular viewer, I wish you had a shop in my area Mr Subaru..

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому

      I wish!

    • @flat4forlife588
      @flat4forlife588 4 роки тому +2

      You know how many times I say that when I watch his videos. Good mechanics, let alone good subaru mechanics are hard to find.

  • @2098elk
    @2098elk Рік тому

    Very interesting. Thank you. Just purchased a 2023 Crosstrek.

  • @wizeguiz
    @wizeguiz 4 роки тому +11

    The Blue Fram/Honeywell are crap. Since I bought my 2019 Crosstrek , I do not take it to the dealership for oil changes. I use a local mechanic who uses Auto Extra oil filters made by WIX. Just saying. Cheers!

  • @iAnormal13
    @iAnormal13 4 роки тому +4

    It would be nice to compare the Mazda oil filter to the Subaru black oil filter. Nice video!

  • @natecurrier
    @natecurrier 4 роки тому +7

    I’ve never seen anyone prime the oil filter, by cranking the engine for a bit. I assume that’s unnecessary, but probably a best practice. Good vid as always 👍🏻

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +10

      I always prime the oil system or prefill oil filters. When you don't do it, you know it, especially on the timing chain engines. The older EZ30D's chains rattle like crazy on first start after an oil change if you don't prime them. Their chain tensioners are tensioned with pressurized engine oil. If you start them with no oil in the pump/filter, it can take 5-20 seconds for the oil to prime, pressurize, and supply the chain tensioners. During this time the chains slap around. I'd rather take a few seconds more to make sure they don't.

    • @MarktheRude
      @MarktheRude 4 роки тому

      @@MrSubaru1387 If I remember correctly Allen from Subie Recycler had a EJ-engine fail to build up oil-pressure because they pre-filled filter with oil. Certainly it's a once in a blue-moon chance but still, it may cause head-ache when it does. ua-cam.com/video/FbvNIZ2NVCU/v-deo.html

    • @is300Gang
      @is300Gang 4 роки тому +2

      @@jamesmatthews304 the 17 Forester actually had a design change to the condenser for leaks. The accumulating tank in the passenger side of the condenser would leak out of the bottom of it. I've replaced a TON on those along with evaporator cores on the Forester/Impreza chassis. I know @mrsubaru1387 made a video about the CVTs and service, but as someone who drains a CVT 3 or 4 times a week, I REALLY recommend 40k mile service interval and an ADDITIONAL transmission fluid cooler. Subaru CVTs get waaaaaay too hot, quickly degrading the fluid. Me personally(I'd never own a CVT vehicle) I would add that additional cooler and change fluid early. Or you can let the trans blow before 100k and fuck technicians like myself. 🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @xobaby3862
      @xobaby3862 4 роки тому +1

      SubieN8 I have a question here. Any idea about doing this on a push-start car? I tried, she cranks about 3 times and starts regardless, albeit with a weak push.

    • @natecurrier
      @natecurrier 4 роки тому +1

      Carter O'Leary yes this works on a Push to Start. Keep your foot on the brake, press the accelerator to the floor and hold the start button down the entire time.

  • @bmoosethemaker5610
    @bmoosethemaker5610 Місяць тому

    Oil filter can still be primed upside down, fill it and let it soak in then install, it will be the same as if you were starting the car in the morning after it’s drained all out, it’s the reason it’s on top of engine, you wouldn’t want it upside down near the bottom of the motor, where cranks at, turbo car might benefit from disconnecting ignition before starting though.

  • @laine9450
    @laine9450 4 роки тому +3

    So proud I am finally caught up on all my MrSubaru1387. It was one big marathon

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +1

      I bet is was! Wow!

    • @laine9450
      @laine9450 4 роки тому +1

      @@MrSubaru1387 I discovered your channel when i found a Subaru 2004 Outback with an EJ251 with a blown headgasket. $400 canadian. I've been watching your videos since.

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +1

      Glad to have you!

  • @ArtemLokhovitskiy
    @ArtemLokhovitskiy 4 роки тому +2

    Exact story with the Honda's oil filters. The original ones that are A01 are better than A02 which is basically Fram. Now there are rare Part No.: 15400-RTA-003 which are superior over the A01 and A02

  • @shuba097
    @shuba097 4 роки тому +5

    I run WIX filters on everything I own... a bit expensive but I think its worth it!

    • @bobmcl2406
      @bobmcl2406 4 роки тому +1

      Wix got bought out by Mann (German oil filter supplier). I hope their quality remains as high as it previously was.

  • @-keyys-
    @-keyys- 4 роки тому +1

    Subaru better step it up on the oil filters, Big difference!!!! Thanks awesome vid!!!!

  • @rockbay79
    @rockbay79 4 роки тому +11

    Thanks for sharing about the oil priming process. At present, my Forester is under the original service warranty. However, once it is completed, I will be changing the oil and filter myself. My wife and I drive very little. Last year we placed 2400 miles on the Forester for one year of use. This is more than half of the recommended 5000 miles. My question is, will it be permitted to change the oil and filter every year with this sort of low annual mileage? Thanks!

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +16

      It would be advisable to change the oil at least once a year, regardless of the mileage.

    • @is300Gang
      @is300Gang 4 роки тому +1

      @@MrSubaru1387 agreed

    • @Hillwatch
      @Hillwatch 2 роки тому

      I would do it twice at least, once in the spring and once in the fall. The temperature fluctuations can affect oil degradation. Even if the car sits you should change it annually. I shoot for four times a year (once a season) on my car that I run a synthetic blend, but I also drive a lot. In fact, I was reading an article from an aviation magazine that recommended running engines at least once a week to prevent rust accumulating from the moisture in the air and any that might have collected in the oil pan.

  • @scaber
    @scaber 4 роки тому +1

    Subaru OEM filters have a higher bypass valve psi. I read that Subaru filters have a 23 psi bypass valve vs 12 psi for many aftermarket filters. Wix recently increased their bypass valve psi to 27 on their Wix 57055 filter.

  • @mylesemery7347
    @mylesemery7347 4 роки тому +1

    I used to use the AA130 filters on my father's 11' forester N/A when the dealership had them. I went to the dealership the other day and they gave me a filter that is half the size of the AA130.

  • @sean2525
    @sean2525 Рік тому +1

    That's a cool trick to prime the oil system! Will that work on my 2023 Outback 2.5 with push button start?

  • @ranger178
    @ranger178 3 роки тому +2

    when i went to dealer for a filter they had two choices a black or blue model they said the blue was for regular engine and the black for the higher performance models

  • @miriamvivo4279
    @miriamvivo4279 4 роки тому +5

    I use the denso or black oil filters from japan on my ej257. Much higher quality than the lousy subaru blue filters.

    • @jrbay1
      @jrbay1 4 роки тому

      Are use the den so filter also it does my Subarus and all of my Hondas

    • @Trident_Euclid
      @Trident_Euclid 4 роки тому

      Here we use Mitsubishi brand oil filters. Never heard a complaint about them. I cut them every oil change and the components looks high quality.

  • @colonelcasey87
    @colonelcasey87 4 роки тому +4

    At least Subaru still had some brains back then by having a thick 17mm oil drain bolt. The newer ones are a thin 14mm bolt that's ridiculously easy to round off when you have 200 lb gorillas as lube techs!

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +1

      True. I miss the old 17 mil plugs. Was surprised when I saw the 17mm on this car. Figured it would be the 14mm.

  • @ericbangs5116
    @ericbangs5116 4 роки тому +5

    I am going to look into getting on of those funnels!

  • @mbwisc3737
    @mbwisc3737 3 роки тому +1

    I have a 2021 Subaru Forester and was wondering how the push button start would effect filling the oil filter with the cold start? My first Subaru, so I'm loving your videos!

  • @dp5383
    @dp5383 3 роки тому +1

    Did not know the crank trick! Thanks for this! And ugh.. just bought a case of the blue filters. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @stevemcrichards8768
    @stevemcrichards8768 2 роки тому +1

    There is a clear quality of construction difference between those filters.
    The fact that Subaru commissioned there oil filter to FRAM is insulting because I do not like FRAM because they are not a quality company. When you design your filter material as cheaply as possible and is held together by cardboard which will disintegrate and find its way into critical engine bearing components that smacks of a company that does concern themselves more about making money off of marketing and volume more than the actual quality of the products selling the brand.
    Two good alternative oil filter brands that I like for FA20, FB25 and FA24 are MAHLE and DENSO but, clearly the best choice is the Tokyo Roki black case, Japan made filter.
    Thank you for your insight and I will use the link

  • @felixf5211
    @felixf5211 4 роки тому +1

    I like how you have a solvent in a pressurized container. I'm gonna do that, too.

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +1

      Way cheaper than buy cans and cans of aresol brake parts cleaner.

  • @JeffreyHall-n9s
    @JeffreyHall-n9s Рік тому

    The 2011-12 Forester, which had the first of the FB engines, had a Tokyo Riki 15208AA130 Black Filter and used 5.5 US quarts (5.1 liters). Later models of the Forester used the Tokyo Riki 15208AA160 Black Filter and then US Fram filter. Subaru Canada continues to say that it is the correct filter for the 2011-12 Forester but the dealers continuing mix it up; after every oil change at the dealer I have to open the hood and make sure they put in the right filter and fill the oil to the full mark.

  • @RIPSAWONE
    @RIPSAWONE 3 роки тому +1

    My 2016 Crosstreck came with black Japan. Running 0W-20 Mobile 1 15,000 oil. Blue OEM filter. Changes at anal 3335, , 14,260, normal for me and I know too long for Subie recommendation18,875 and 23,207. Those last two do to time. The 23,207 do to COVID19 took two years to get to. So in a way, a good test on the check valve.
    I sawed the filter carefully with a fine-tooth hack saw. Obviously that the check was functioning. Oil poured out of the outer case. I had let it drain a while but it has to seep thru filter material. The check appears to me to be neoprene rubble. It was in excellent condition and very flexible to seal. The endplates are fiber material like phenolic. Not really cardboard. They were in good condition and sealed on each end. There are 49 pleats counting metal crimped outer one. Apx 2 3/8 long. Each folds out to apx. 1 1/8 long. Looking thru them into a strong light shows the dim light of a typical filter material. That's almost 131 sq inches of filter material.
    The o ring seal sets the filter apart from your typical FRAM auto part store. I really see no problem with the filter.
    Interesting but Hondas 15400-PLM-A02 is just about identical. Except the 14 flat wrench end is 1 MM smaller. Sorta wonder if they would be interchangeable. Bet FRAM won't tell me that but I'm going to ask.
    No oil consumption. My 05 CRV was changed once a year from new. Same oil. Sometimes almost 14,000 miles. At 110,000 I checked valve clearance and replaced plugs. Cam timing was dead on. The exhaust valve was off maybe .0015 loose. Intake was in tolerance. Under valve cover other than a little yellow stain was clean. If a Japanese car can't go 15,000 on Mobile 1 Gold 15K oil, it has a design flaw. My 07 Civic has 180,000 and looks the same under the valve cover at 150,000 when I finally got around to checking it and replacing plugs. The Civic does have porosity in the block. It started leaking antifreeze at 105K. I used the light-duty Bar's tablet-type sealer. It took a second dose but after about 10K of keeping an eye on it, it sealed it.
    Honda dealer wanted $5000 to fix it. It was 5K and a few months out of the extended warranty. That cost them a car sale when I needed a car.

  • @AaronMal1978
    @AaronMal1978 2 роки тому +3

    Both filters meet SBR's standards for performance...otherwise they wouldn't allow them to be used in the factory.

  • @124marsh
    @124marsh 4 роки тому +1

    BTW, Thanks for the Tip of using Brake Parts Cleaner to clean up around the drain plug.

  • @MMichaelSingh
    @MMichaelSingh 4 роки тому +4

    I've done research and found out that the Mazda N3R1-14-302 filter is almost identical to the 160 filter. Black and looks just the same with a Mazda logo. It is made in Japan by Tokio Roki, has the same thread/pitch, diameters, and bypass spring pressure. A smidge longer though from what I have read in reviews. In the reviews on Amazon, many many Subaru owners (WRX guys) are saying it has good success vs the 15A. What do you think?

  • @JoseHernandez-tz6xl
    @JoseHernandez-tz6xl 4 роки тому +1

    K&N oil filter with Pennzoil Synthetic 5W30 oil.No bullshyt. on a 14’forester xt.

  • @royphillips9584
    @royphillips9584 3 роки тому +2

    Good day to you. I have a 2013 Subaru Cross Trek with 60,000 miles .i live in south Florida, where the temp never get below frezzing. Ive been running 0w20 should i switch over to 5W30?

  • @ironman1518.
    @ironman1518. 4 роки тому +4

    Thank YOU Mr. Subaru, YOU da Bomb! NEVER knew of the floor the pedal to just turn the engine over; Thank You! How does the Mobil 1™ Extended Performance Oil Filter M1-110A oil filter compare to the Japanese Subie OEM? Where/how can one buy the Japanese filter? Thank you for all u do!

    • @shadowdestined2992
      @shadowdestined2992 4 роки тому

      Fred J. I’ve used the M1-110A on my 2013 XV Crosstrek the past 4 oil changes. It does fine. Where I live it goes from 0*F to 100*F. Engine always runs fine, mpg’s are good too if you’re worried about that. The whole “you need 23psi pressure” thing is a myth. Just go with what you want. I know at Walmart the Mobil 1 filter is cheaper than the subie filter online. Which is why I get the Mobil 1 filter

    • @rangersmith4652
      @rangersmith4652 4 роки тому

      I didn't know that either. I wonder if Subaru tech know it. I wonder if they bother to employ it.

  • @andybiggs4374
    @andybiggs4374 4 роки тому +5

    Clearly Fram need to up thier game of they are allowed to brand them Subaru! As long as it is changed regularly, they'll get you by.

  • @mikefennema5561
    @mikefennema5561 2 роки тому

    Toyota Canada used to sell rebaged Fram filters as Toyota. I always had issues with the drain back valve failure part way through the oil change. Since they went back to genuine Totota filters, no more drain back valve issues.

  • @jiggs49us
    @jiggs49us 3 роки тому

    We just bought a 2020 Forester for my wife and I'm in a new learning curve since our last Subaru was 2002 Outback with the old 2.5 (god I loved that car). So on the "filter on top" engines - is it best leave to leave the oil filter in place and drain the oil from the pan until empty (which also appears to drain the oil filter) then remove the oil filter and refill the engine oil? I also did not know about the non-starting oil priming trick to get full oil pressure before actually starting the engine - which is brilliant in itself. Thank you for these clear, concise Subaru maintenance videos. New subscriber here for sure.

  • @meticulouselectronics
    @meticulouselectronics 4 роки тому +4

    Most lube techs either apply jb weld to the drain plug, or leave it so loose you end up leaking all the oil out. There is no winning, unless you do it yourself, or have a trusted MECHANIC do the oil change.

  • @johnvillano9809
    @johnvillano9809 3 роки тому

    Mazda Tokyo roki filter supposedly fits.... keep a blu one in the trunk for switching out in case of warranty work is needed it’s on top of the engine and takes 2 seconds To switch out

  • @XaviarCraig
    @XaviarCraig 4 роки тому +2

    As my extended warranty is ending soon (@90K miles) on my '14 STI, this definitely gives me some things to think about. So far it's been solid. Been running it entirely stock and all oil/filter changes are done at the dealer(warranty reasons). The oil level goes down about 2-ish mm on the dipstick from oil change to oil change so I dont think that is much.

  • @kevingallineauii9353
    @kevingallineauii9353 4 роки тому +2

    This is why I only use a NAPA gold made by WIX. Arguably the same or better quality to the Japanese filter. If I buy a few and send you one will you do a comparison?

  • @doh1976
    @doh1976 4 роки тому +4

    Glad i went with good aftermarket filters the past 100k miles

  • @MrACP
    @MrACP 2 роки тому +1

    This video is about a year old, do you still think WIX XP is a better product then these two, also oil priming on my 2021 Ascent doesn’t work.

  • @RoverTheDog1
    @RoverTheDog1 Рік тому

    Just got a new Crosstrek and my Subaru factory oil filter was made in...The Philippines

  • @flat4forlife588
    @flat4forlife588 4 роки тому +1

    My 2016 legacy has no oil consumption issue (52K miles) but does has a coolant consumption issue with no leaks. The car always smell like antifreeze after long drives but no leaks I can find or see visually. I do have to add antifreeze a few times between oil changes, not a ton but the overflow is usually low. Just one of the many gremlins I have. Might be trading in the next few months for a base forester or 2.5ltr crosstrek when they hit lots. Any thoughts on the coolant issue? I am ready for some extra ground clearance for winter and makes oil changes easier. Had a 2013 impreza that had the oil consumption issue that subaru notified owners about and was not letting them tear apart the engine to redo the piston rings as the people in NY care barely chew bum and walk at the same time so I traded it. Wasn't a bad car to be honest. I liked it better than the legacy I have. Idiots over tightened the drain bolt and filter, totally not surprised, people are idiots.

  • @TraceyAllen
    @TraceyAllen 4 роки тому +1

    I like cartridge type filters, cheap and you can see what you are getting.

  • @wscott9779
    @wscott9779 4 роки тому +2

    I guess it depends on your dealership. The one I take my WRX (2017) only puts the black Tokyo Roki filters in my car.

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +3

      The WRX still only has the black Japanese filters, like the EZ30D and EZ36D filters.

    • @wscott9779
      @wscott9779 4 роки тому +3

      @@MrSubaru1387 thanks. Glad they are putting the correct filter in. Only using dealer while under warranty. That way there can not be any questions if I have to make a claim under warranty.

  • @redlywaxer
    @redlywaxer 4 роки тому

    My dentist here in Greer SC had way too much oil consumption (no leaks) on 5W-30 in his 2012 Outback 3.6 so 5 years ago he jumped way up to Mobil 1 15W-50 (that he was using in his old air-cooled Porsch) and experiences no consumption or leaks during his 10,000 mile oil changes. I just replaced his spark plugs and valve cover gaskets. He is having his torque converter and transmission valve body replaced due to a shudder during lockup. At 160,000 miles he finally replaced his trans fluid the first time and 4000 miles later now he was feeling bad shudder during TC clutch lockup. Apparently this is a common issue on these Jatco made automatics.

  • @NVRRVN
    @NVRRVN 4 роки тому +1

    I use Royal Purple oil filter for both my FA20DIT WRX and Forester XT. I'll try K&N Gold Series next time(the one with the nut on top for easy removal).

  • @camrsr5463
    @camrsr5463 4 роки тому +4

    check your air pressure every time you fill up too!

    • @rangersmith4652
      @rangersmith4652 4 роки тому +2

      Not really. You should check air pressure when the tires are cold. Most fill-ups will be on warmed-up tires.

    • @camrsr5463
      @camrsr5463 4 роки тому

      true, I guess I live way to close to a gas station. haha!

  • @Thelby1
    @Thelby1 3 роки тому +1

    The Bolt head oil drain plug on my 2021 Crosstrek Sport 2.5L is a 14mm. When did they change from the 17mm to a 14mm? Or is it the 2.0L is a 17mm?
    30.8 ft. lbs. isn't much, but I did run into the same problem that the factory put the drain plug on with what seemed like a hundred lbs of torque.
    Thanks for the video. It is a Big Help!!

  • @jamesbruno5896
    @jamesbruno5896 4 роки тому +1

    Cool comparison, thanks for posting!

  • @cslapler007
    @cslapler007 3 роки тому +1

    Haha right when I saw the size ratchet you were using trying to get the drain bolt out, and the fact that a shop did the last oil change, I figured you would have to get bigger tool. That's my soapbox too, anytime I get oil done anywhere that bolt is way too tight and it's ridiculous!

  • @hallkbrdz
    @hallkbrdz 4 роки тому +1

    No Fram made filters for my OBXT. I use the Mazda TR filters as they are easily sourced and are much better quality.

  • @sneakyfoz3692
    @sneakyfoz3692 4 роки тому +1

    How good are the screw on oil filler funnels? Chuck the oil jug in the funnel and send it! I have used one for the last few years absolute god send and for those bitchin about the price, it’s paid for itself with one DIY oil change vs paying someone else to do it.

  • @djgonzo007
    @djgonzo007 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the link to the JDM filters! Just ordered a pair for my ‘17 Outback 2.5 Limited. Gonna try this on my next oil change when I switch back to Idemitsu 0w20 from Mobil 1. I’m noticing a bit of oil consumption, about 1/3 quart in 2500 miles. Interestingly, the oil consumption was more noticeable after a 1600 mile road trip with a lot of 80+ mph freeway driving. Hoping the switch to Idemitsu will solve the consumption issue as you suggest in a previous video.

  • @JenniLudes
    @JenniLudes 4 роки тому +2

    Always enjoy these...even the simple stuff. I'll have to get some of the Japanese filters for my 2016 Crosstrek. And see if I can find them for my 2019 STI as well. Question...my Crosstrek is Pushbutton start, so can't manually limit the cranking time to 30 seconds (and you have to have your foot on the brake to engage the pushbutton). So how do you prime with pushbutton start?

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +1

      Left foot on brake. Right foot pin throttle to the floor. Hit starter button to start engine cranking over. Hit button again to stop engine cranking. Remove right foot completely from gas pedal to start engine normally.

    • @JenniLudes
      @JenniLudes 4 роки тому +1

      @@MrSubaru1387 Thanks. I thought it might be something like that but didn't want to send that push-button start into a panic, ha! (not really a fan of the push-button start anyway)

  • @NECRO98
    @NECRO98 3 роки тому +2

    Rx-8 Roki from Mazda dealers will fit EJ 2.5

  • @mrkn625
    @mrkn625 3 роки тому +1

    I figured out sometime back the blue Subaru oil filters were made by FRAM, that's why I quit using them.

  • @CarsSimplified
    @CarsSimplified 4 роки тому +1

    I think part of the trouble getting the oil drain plug off the first time ever is more due to the paint on the threads of the drain plug. I suspect the pans get painted on the inside with the drain plug already installed, and the paint gets down the threads a bit, sealing like threadlocker. There is definitely some sort of coating on the tip of the drain plug both in the video and on my 2018 Crosstrek.

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому

      First time? This car is a 2013 with 209,000 miles on it.

    • @CarsSimplified
      @CarsSimplified 4 роки тому +2

      Ah, oops. You said first oil change on the Crosstrek at the beginning of the video and I assumed it was a low mile example. Just got recommended this video after watching a different video about a Crosstrek's first oil change!

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +1

      No, first change under my ownership. Lol

  • @dlambro
    @dlambro 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the Crosstrek videos, they're really useful. Any chance you could show how to do a brake fluid flush and bleed on the Crosstrek? Since there's an ABS system, I'm not sure if this is something a DIYer can do, but I'd sure like to know.

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +4

      Sounds like a good idea for a video. 👍🏻

  • @johncosta2392
    @johncosta2392 4 роки тому +1

    I always enjoy your videos. Would you show a link where i may purchase your disposable rags and orange gloves. Thank you.

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому

      amzn.to/2XsJmOA - Wypall shop rags
      amzn.to/2UnVkar - SAS Astro Grip gloves.

  • @waynes.2983
    @waynes.2983 4 роки тому +1

    I always use the black filters. Done all oil changes on my.2015 wrx since it was new & the filters are always drained empty when i take them off. Even though i drove the car 10 minutes before to heat the oil.

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому

      The WRX uses a different filter. Always has been a black Japanese made filter on the FA20DIT.

  • @ayske1
    @ayske1 4 роки тому +1

    What are your thoughts on Subaru's upper engine cleaner and fuel additive? Do you believe they're a must for every service?

  • @GingaWave
    @GingaWave Рік тому

    Where at in SC! That’s where I’m at, would love to bring my Wilderness by

  • @aquaclean
    @aquaclean 2 роки тому +1

    I didn't"t know the throttle crank trick, thank u for that. I also need your help to find a oil filter Tokyo Roki for 2015 Crosstrek, ebay and other auto parts don't have it.

  • @rodneywk1
    @rodneywk1 Рік тому +1

    wow.. never knew about priming the oil system. Thank you!! It seems to make sense after doing an oil change, but is that something you might want to do when starting the car first thing in the morning or after sitting for an extended period of time?

    • @twiki1963
      @twiki1963 Рік тому

      I *think* the check-valve in the filter keeps some oil in there upon shutdown. Only prime when you have a new, dry oil filter.

  • @britonmarrett796
    @britonmarrett796 3 роки тому

    Great video! I'm supposed to change my impreza 2017 oil. Just to get the procedure correct, are you recommending that I floor the gas pedal for how long before starting the car? Or must I floor the gas pedal whilst starting the engine? Referring to the information at 12:30

  • @cajunaggie9815
    @cajunaggie9815 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for another great video. Just a quick question. Would your remote starter button work on this newer model? The US anti-drainback valve looks to be Buna rubber which is cheaper than what looks like silicone on the Japanese model.

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387  4 роки тому +1

      No. You'll have to use the ignition.