@@worlds_okayest_pilot_421 stating a fact like that in this context isnt really a "know it all" move. And it was just a little phonetic slip up, it happens. Im sure he usually spells "brakes" correctly.
You have probably learned about this in the meantime ... train brakes are kept open by pressurized air. As soon as the air hose breaks anywhere on the train, the air will get out and every car will automatically engage the brakes. The crew then has to walk along the train and find the damaged hose to repair it.
Excellent video!! Whenever I hear a train goes into the emergency it makes that irritating squeaky noise! But it's rare when train goes into emergency!
Probably a hose blew. It's the most common cause. That's why they carry spare parts and tools. Quick repairs are time savers. Or there could have been something happened a few miles in front and had to get stopped in a hurry.
I enjoyed the video. For an emergency stop it was relatively smooth. Back in 1972 I was on Amtraks train the Super Chief. We were outside Pasadena, CA , going about 90 mph when we hit a truck at a grade crossing. The engineer put the train brakes into emergency. The car I was in was near the end of the train that was 20 cars long. I tell you it was a very violent stop. I felt those brakes go on hard and there was a tremendous bang and jolt as the coupler slack ran in.Was very exciting!!!!
All good scenarios. But why were the danger signals, flashing "X" signals responding? BEFORE the train went into emergency stop.?? Or did i miss something.
Most likely a broken air hose, or possibly PTC activation if the train was speeding. Or a PTC malfunction causing an unexpected e-brake application. It happens from time to time.
@@JimLiElevators Air hoses are what connect the train's brake lines between the cars. Air compressors in the locomotive provide air pressure that charges the "train line" in the entire train, and also pressurize three reservoirs on each car. Air pressure in the train line keeps the brakes released. When the air pressure in the train [air] line is reduced by a certain number of pounds per square inch (by the engineer making a reduction on his brake valve), the brake reservoir on each car releases the same amount of air pressure into the brake cylinder and applies the brakes. When the engineer makes an emergency application of the brakes, instead of the usual 10-20psi "service reduction", the entire 70-90psi (depending on whether it is freight or passenger) is released. A device called A "triple valve" on each car senses any reduction in train line pressure, and releases that pressure to the atmosphere while permitting an equal amount of air into the brake cylinder. When there is an emergency application, ALL the train line's air is instantly released to the atmosphere. Under normal circumstances, this is the result of the engineer throwing the train into emergency, but if one of the two air hoses between two cars breaks/ruptures, it will also cause an emergency application of the brakes since all of the train line's air pressure is suddenly released. This is a safety device; if a coupler breaks and the train physically separates, the instant the air hoses separate both halves of the train will go into emergency. When an air hose breaks, the conductor has to walk the entire length of the train until he finds the broken air hose, at which time he can replace it. Every locomotive carries several spare air hoses for this reason.
@@JimLiElevators it is a hose that runs from car to car that support the brakes.when the trains need to slow down it will activate some brakes.but in this case the E-brake activated all brakes.The cause was as others said,a PTC error,or a air hose hanging too low.
@@JimLiElevators train brakes need air pressure to remain off. That air is carried from car to car in an air hose. If the hose breaks then there’s no not air pressure and all the brakes get applied because of the lack of air pressure.
FYI when a train goes into emergency automatically, it comes to a quick stop. The brakes cannot be released and the train's brake pipe recharged until the cause, a broken air hose, uncoupling, a derailment or collision is inspected and corrected. Then the train line is recharged and the train can then proceed. The emergency brake can be applied manually by either the Engineer or the Conductor as well.
They can happen for many reasons. Popped air hose, cars accidentally uncoupling (which would pop the air hose), sensitive brake systems, train brake applied too quickly. There’s so many different reasons
I'm a retired engineer with the UPRR and sometimes when u set an air appl u might have a car with a 'hairtrigger' brake valve (what we call a dynamiter) which puts u in emergancy.....finding that car can be a pain!
Hey question. I wanted to join the railroad but I was worried from what I saw not into able to really have a social life. Am I able to still visit my friends often while being an engineer or will I rarely get to see them?
I'll never forget that sound. In our small town, we have a festival every year, celebrating the local agricultural product. There was also a rather high speed section of UP track that ran parallel to the highway on the other side of the city park. One of the developmentally handicapped residents in the home that bordered the park had somehow gotten away from the facility and disappeared into the crowd at the festival. She had made her way to the train tracks, as she loved to wave at the trains as they went by. Most of the UP Engineers knew of her and gave her a blast of the air horns as she waved to them. I remember this time he laid on the horns, a long solid note about a mile out. People began to watch the train. And there she was. Right dead center between the rails, waiving at the train. About a half mile out, he applied emergency braking, but it was too late. It was a heavy consist of Canadian wheat, headed for the mills to the south...
I was on Amtrak once and we had hit a bunch of deer! the 203 OLS was leading off which is kinda ironic, anyways, we got thrown into emergency and man It was a hard stop.
Recently I saw a train go into emergency braking when an air hose coupling drooped too low between the cars. When it got to a certain road crossing, and the gap the normally is between the tracks is suddently replaced by a pavement section, it smacked the droopy coupling and ripped it apart. This stuff happens every so often. Don't get too excited by it.
Also fun fact i live near Sugar Land. And trains Mainly UP tend to just stop for no apparent, reason but it seems like the air hose broke somewhere on the train.
Well seeing that no accident occured it could have either a coupler broke, an air hose disconnected.... Or PTC caused the emergency stop. Seeing that the train already passed a signal at a high speed a PTC caused emergency stop is possible. PTC sometimes acts up
I recently caught Norfolk Southern 350 go into emergency while railfanning Raleigh on Veterans Day, must have not prepared a switch to go to track 2 which is supposed to do that. There was no damages when I chased it east and didn't record there, the reason I thought the train went to emergency was I thought there were multiple wheel bearing issues that might derail the train, but it wasn't. It moved like a minute ago and it finished crossing through.
Air hose , valve bodies , accidental , etd problems . So many issues . Get out and start walking . This is my route to Temple Tx or back to Galveston Tx
Any number of things could've caused them to go into emergency stop. A knuckle arm could snap causing one of the cars to uncouple the trains onboard computer could've detected a hydraulic leak coolant problems in the engine it could've been a number of any item that could cause an emergency stop
Ive only been recording trains since about august and ive seen one, Im now suprised how early into my recording of trains career i got to see a train go into emergency,
The same thing happened in malaysia too, after getting off an ktmb class 93 at senawang station, i went up the stairs as the train departed but then suddenly heard a loud hiss that scared the crap outta me, and the next second i saw the train stop, the train took a while to get moving again
Yeah - the train brake hose (charged at 90 psi) uncoupled between 2 cars - the hissing sound - and the train brake is automatically applied full hard! Train probably did not hit anything/anybody!
Imagine if the railroad crossings were so far apart from each other when the freight train goes into emergency stop. There would be a major detour if that happened.
So good. I like this video very much because it's very interesting. Thank you. You are very confident. Very interesting experience. Always beautiful and beautiful. I like too.,.,’
Emergency happens alot for 1# off line by satellite 2# if a knuckle breaks 3# hot box detection 4# engine over heat 5# any train hit by vehicle or pedestrian 6# low air #7 equipment = Miscellaneous, very common Occurrence
Definitely a rare moment that you managed to catch! Glad everyone and everything was okay.
That loud hiss was an air line breaking when that happens each car is designed to automatically apply breaks including the engines.
Such a know-it-all, yet doesn’t know the difference between “brakes” and “breaks”
@@worlds_okayest_pilot_421 stating a fact like that in this context isnt really a "know it all" move. And it was just a little phonetic slip up, it happens. Im sure he usually spells "brakes" correctly.
Or autocorrect error
@@ryans413 That loud air hisssing was actually the air being dumped, applying the brakes in full emergency
You have probably learned about this in the meantime ... train brakes are kept open by pressurized air. As soon as the air hose breaks anywhere on the train, the air will get out and every car will automatically engage the brakes. The crew then has to walk along the train and find the damaged hose to repair it.
dang that would suck
thats gonna be a painful long walk
Air brake issues can cause this as well.
I like your channel
I really enjoyed your enthusiasm! :)
Excellent video!! Whenever I hear a train goes into the emergency it makes that irritating squeaky noise! But it's rare when train goes into emergency!
Probably a hose blew. It's the most common cause. That's why they carry spare parts and tools. Quick repairs are time savers. Or there could have been something happened a few miles in front and had to get stopped in a hurry.
I enjoyed the video. For an emergency stop it was relatively smooth. Back in 1972 I was on Amtraks train the Super Chief. We were outside Pasadena, CA , going about 90 mph when we hit a truck at a grade crossing. The engineer put the train brakes into emergency. The car I was in was near the end of the train that was 20 cars long. I tell you it was a very violent stop. I felt those brakes go on hard and there was a tremendous bang and jolt as the coupler slack ran in.Was very exciting!!!!
On freights Emergency braking is an experience. especially if you pull a knuckle
All good scenarios. But why were the danger signals, flashing "X" signals responding? BEFORE the train went into emergency stop.?? Or did i miss something.
Broke an air hose. Any number of things can put a train into emergency. Great video.
Most likely a broken air hose, or possibly PTC activation if the train was speeding. Or a PTC malfunction causing an unexpected e-brake application. It happens from time to time.
You don’t mind telling me what an air hose is? Someone was asking me about that and I don’t know what it is at all to be honest.
@@JimLiElevators Air hoses are what connect the train's brake lines between the cars. Air compressors in the locomotive provide air pressure that charges the "train line" in the entire train, and also pressurize three reservoirs on each car. Air pressure in the train line keeps the brakes released. When the air pressure in the train [air] line is reduced by a certain number of pounds per square inch (by the engineer making a reduction on his brake valve), the brake reservoir on each car releases the same amount of air pressure into the brake cylinder and applies the brakes.
When the engineer makes an emergency application of the brakes, instead of the usual 10-20psi "service reduction", the entire 70-90psi (depending on whether it is freight or passenger) is released.
A device called A "triple valve" on each car senses any reduction in train line pressure, and releases that pressure to the atmosphere while permitting an equal amount of air into the brake cylinder. When there is an emergency application, ALL the train line's air is instantly released to the atmosphere.
Under normal circumstances, this is the result of the engineer throwing the train into emergency, but if one of the two air hoses between two cars breaks/ruptures, it will also cause an emergency application of the brakes since all of the train line's air pressure is suddenly released.
This is a safety device; if a coupler breaks and the train physically separates, the instant the air hoses separate both halves of the train will go into emergency. When an air hose breaks, the conductor has to walk the entire length of the train until he finds the broken air hose, at which time he can replace it. Every locomotive carries several spare air hoses for this reason.
Probably not PTC, PTC is usually a penalty application at a service rate.
@@JimLiElevators it is a hose that runs from car to car that support the brakes.when the trains need to slow down it will activate some brakes.but in this case the E-brake activated all brakes.The cause was as others said,a PTC error,or a air hose hanging too low.
@@JimLiElevators train brakes need air pressure to remain off. That air is carried from car to car in an air hose. If the hose breaks then there’s no not air pressure and all the brakes get applied because of the lack of air pressure.
Get yourself a scanner and you'll be able to hear what's going on. The Uniden Bc125at Is a great little scanner.
FYI when a train goes into emergency automatically, it comes to a quick stop. The brakes cannot be released and the train's brake pipe recharged until the cause, a broken air hose, uncoupling, a derailment or collision is inspected and corrected. Then the train line is recharged and the train can then proceed. The emergency brake can be applied manually by either the Engineer or the Conductor as well.
They can happen for many reasons. Popped air hose, cars accidentally uncoupling (which would pop the air hose), sensitive brake systems, train brake applied too quickly. There’s so many different reasons
That was strange. I'm glad everyone is okay.
it could be anything from a signal suddenly changing to red and you have to just dump the brakes
I know nothing about signals, but the brakes can apply if the signal changes after the train passes it? How does that work?
Sounded like a air hose came loose.
This was uploaded on my birthday! Wow!
I had a card that sounded like that when I put on the brakes lol
I'm a retired engineer with the UPRR and sometimes when u set an air appl u might have a car with a 'hairtrigger' brake valve (what we call a dynamiter) which puts u in emergancy.....finding that car can be a pain!
Anytime u have a question about this stuff just ask away.
Thanks. I appreciate it! :D
We call it a kicker in Canada
We call them kickers at our railroad. Only had one so far
Hey question. I wanted to join the railroad but I was worried from what I saw not into able to really have a social life. Am I able to still visit my friends often while being an engineer or will I rarely get to see them?
Nice catch of BNSF 7678, the leader. The H2 ES44DC is becoming an increasingly rare sight on BNSF
I'll never forget that sound. In our small town, we have a festival every year, celebrating the local agricultural product. There was also a rather high speed section of UP track that ran parallel to the highway on the other side of the city park. One of the developmentally handicapped residents in the home that bordered the park had somehow gotten away from the facility and disappeared into the crowd at the festival. She had made her way to the train tracks, as she loved to wave at the trains as they went by. Most of the UP Engineers knew of her and gave her a blast of the air horns as she waved to them. I remember this time he laid on the horns, a long solid note about a mile out. People began to watch the train. And there she was. Right dead center between the rails, waiving at the train. About a half mile out, he applied emergency braking, but it was too late. It was a heavy consist of Canadian wheat, headed for the mills to the south...
Yikes
Oof
What town did this happen? Sounds familiar
Its was actually airhose breaking or coming loose
If the air hose was broken the emergency brakes would be one and that will stop the train
I was on Amtrak once and we had hit a bunch of deer! the 203 OLS was leading off which is kinda ironic, anyways, we got thrown into emergency and man It was a hard stop.
Recently I saw a train go into emergency braking when an air hose coupling drooped too low between the cars. When it got to a certain road crossing, and the gap the normally is between the tracks is suddently replaced by a pavement section, it smacked the droopy coupling and ripped it apart. This stuff happens every so often.
Don't get too excited by it.
I thought the train cars separated
No, I didn’t see any railcars separated.
First time seeing a train go into emergency I take it? Lol
3:50 more than a second lol.
Right time, right place
Also fun fact i live near Sugar Land. And trains Mainly UP tend to just stop for no apparent, reason but it seems like the air hose broke somewhere on the train.
Well seeing that no accident occured it could have either a coupler broke, an air hose disconnected.... Or PTC caused the emergency stop. Seeing that the train already passed a signal at a high speed a PTC caused emergency stop is possible. PTC sometimes acts up
Broken coupler? I didn't see any railcars separate at all after driving through the entire train.
@@JimLiElevators Oh... Well then it was most probably a PTC related emergency stop.
Sometimes the uncoupled half still has enough momentum to slam into the first half.....scariest thing ever
Probably not a PTC issue, PTC is usually a penalty application at a service rate.
I wonder what he had to Pull the emergency brake
Glad everyone safe
That train stopped pretty fast. I'm seeing comments talk about PTC. Idk much about trains but what is a PTC?
PTC is positive train control.
I’ve never seen that coming. But I’m glad everything is okay.
I use to be a UP Engineer and I ran this route many days. Through “knuckle Hollow” on the way to San Antonio.
Most likely a broken air hose somewhere throws it into Emergency or PTC
I'm surprised he was going that fast. Sugarland has a dense population
I recently caught Norfolk Southern 350 go into emergency while railfanning Raleigh on Veterans Day, must have not prepared a switch to go to track 2 which is supposed to do that. There was no damages when I chased it east and didn't record there, the reason I thought the train went to emergency was I thought there were multiple wheel bearing issues that might derail the train, but it wasn't. It moved like a minute ago and it finished crossing through.
Whoa That Was Uncalled for
Cool video :) and thank god no one was injured (including the train’s crew)
Air hose , valve bodies , accidental , etd problems . So many issues . Get out and start walking . This is my route to Temple Tx or back to Galveston Tx
You were on this train?
I always love how people's imaginations run wild when something odd happens.
Any number of things could've caused them to go into emergency stop. A knuckle arm could snap causing one of the cars to uncouple the trains onboard computer could've detected a hydraulic leak coolant problems in the engine it could've been a number of any item that could cause an emergency stop
Hydraulic leak?? Coolant problems. No man. No
I just notice railfan on the left corner of your screen on the next crossing, by the the stop sign
What timestamp was it? I didn't see any.
@@JimLiElevators 1:06
I had this happen before with 4x3x0 mixed freight train. Mostly the defect went off
That’s strange,I haven’t seen that happen before when I was in sugar land, that’s super weird
Ive only been recording trains since about august and ive seen one, Im now suprised how early into my recording of trains career i got to see a train go into emergency,
Once a freight train hit a car when I was railfanning and it went into emergency
An air hose probably bursted. Its really common to happen.
I saw heard that exact sound on a csx recently and the train also went into a immediate stop
It took 53 seconds for the train to stop 😲
I'm sure we all know that.
No it did not it took 58 seconds
The same thing happened in malaysia too, after getting off an ktmb class 93 at senawang station, i went up the stairs as the train departed but then suddenly heard a loud hiss that scared the crap outta me, and the next second i saw the train stop, the train took a while to get moving again
And no where close to a mile, lol
@@rob7047 took over 1/3 based on the number of cars that went past after brakes were pulled, but it was still less than half a mile I'm sure
Yeah - the train brake hose (charged at 90 psi) uncoupled between 2 cars - the hissing sound - and the train brake is automatically applied full hard! Train probably did not hit anything/anybody!
Apt description of long train snaking down a railway while hissing from a leaking hose. Scarry and enough to get your attention.
Oh that not good
Right
Yea reminds me too when I was on my regular day of railfan unitill a CSX train going into something like this but by a knuckle break
The train got knuckle breaks
Pretty wild
Awesome video
Pretty decent stop. Only took 27 cars to do it.
Imagine if the railroad crossings were so far apart from each other when the freight train goes into emergency stop. There would be a major detour if that happened.
You never seen a train stop before
I live not too far from a BNSF line.
It has blown an some airhose
The definition of Fail-Safe, it failed but It was safe
I bet something snapped on one of the train cars
More than likely a kicker…
Your good I shock my phone camera too
So good. I like this video very much because it's very interesting. Thank you. You are very confident. Very interesting experience. Always beautiful and beautiful. I like too.,.,’
Seriously bro, your reaction to the train coming to a stop is laughably embarrassing. You're acting like the train overturned and exploded.
I love bnsf
Emergency happens alot for 1# off line by satellite 2# if a knuckle breaks 3# hot box detection 4# engine over heat 5# any train hit by vehicle or pedestrian 6# low air #7 equipment = Miscellaneous, very common Occurrence
How long have you been a railfan cant you tell when a train goes into emergency stop
Probably like a little over more than four years.