@@professoreisner1851 That would be awesome! A little window in the corner of your screen with Tom Scott just talking about something completely random.
06:09 for those who don’t work doing creative roles, you’d be surprised how often the brief is ‘we don’t care, just make it work’ and give someone junior a couple of hours to make it happen
that's honestly how i did a lot of my work at college. i also did fail half my classes the second semester of the one year i attended but that's not important
@@yama123numbercauseytdemand4 It does indeed. I see this all the time in IT. You're wondering why some web site is a pain to use, or is doing weird things, or some company has mangled or lost your data? A lot of the time, "Just make it work," by which the manager means, "Just make it _look like it works,"_ is the issue.
1:28 you did a nice attempt simulating 480i by pixelating yourself to 240p, but my internet decided this video was best served to me in 144p, so I could not notice the difference either way!
This leads to an interesting afterthought: how long until web video content starts streaming with post-processing "AI" metadata for sharpening live on the receiver end? Nvidia does this real-time for ray-traced content (games etc.) and it could be entirely plausible that in 2-5 years such a solution could be widespread (unless the approach is sabotaged by patents greed). Perceptual quality per bit transferred could go up quite a bit for the human observer. (Why "web content"? Because there you don't really have to live on basis of oldest common supported solution from 15 years ago or so.)
@@foobar1500 That's more or less how lossy video compression works already - most of what you see is an 'AI' reconstructing frames from metadata hints. The main constraint for rolling it out in a video codec is being able to make a small, low power hardware decoder for things like smart phones.
5:52 - Some of the shots, mainly the outside shots were recorded onto film, because the cameras were much more compact and portable than the TV cameras. In those moments you see no interlacing, because film cameras introduce no such artefact. On the other side, when it was possible, scenes were shot with the bulk TV cameras. This resulted in interlacing. Finally, the transitions between the film cameras and TV cameras are made entirely onto tape, so that's why the one side is interlaced, but the another - not.
This is really cool, but also sort of sad. Almost like “taping Over” history. Would be nice to have an option on the UA-cam Playback window to switch between the old video and new one.
Also would be nice if they didn't get preferential treatment. For YEARS I've been trying to replace one of my old videos with a HQ rerender. And keep the views/likes/comments/video ID... But youtube vehemently denies all possibility of editing our videos. Yet music labels can do it!? Unfair.
@@x3ICEx I mean, there are good reasons as to why UA-cam would want to avoid giving everyone the power to change their videos whilst keeping all their views, comments, and IDs, but I get the frustration.
In case you aren't aware, they recently remastered some of the old Star Trek shows by re-importing the original films and recreating all of the old effects using CG. The result is incredible, as you'd expect from film, but the amount of work that must have went into trying to match every scene shot for shot and trying to recreate every painted effect with digital effects is unfathomable to me. I'd love to see you do a video about this!
Unfortunately some of the shows were shot directly to tape which is why we can't have remastered version of Voyager for example. Technology Connections did a video on this.
Antoine Chauvet Technically TOS was always shot on film, they just added effects to that to “modernize” it and try to make it appealing to new viewers. TNG on the other had, they HAD to do what D2W describes by redoing all the SD-only effects.
I've seen some of these, and those CG effect substitutions are awful, takes me right out of the show. 1960s sets and costumes, BAM, modern CG ship and planet.
“If you are gonna change the historical record it does seem a terrible option to make it worse” no one has ever described the controversy around the Star Wars remasters better
if you want, you can look for the "despecialised edition" it's a fan remaster based on fixing up the official remaster, combined with laser-disk footage and original theatre release film.
@@NotAMinifig There are other options too, like "4K77" and its counterparts which, instead of cobbling together footage from various sources, track down original theater run film prints and scan them in at 4K resolution.
@@sawspitfire422 I expect you would start with a good VPN, and then pirate it. If it's openly available anywhere, it will be shut down before too much time passes.
There's also the future-proofing aspect of remastering. If you're going to do this to say, Smash Mouth's video, then what about in the future when someone wants to tart it up again? If the current remastered version becomes the norm, they might no thave access to the original. This has been a big problem in audio for years. Look at the Universal masters fire that they kept quiet for years. Buying a new CD from any of those old artists can NEVER EVER be using the original or close to because they've gone for ever. As a Beatles fan, I'm eternally grateful for the efforts they've made to preserve their stuff, but I feel bad for others who have not had the same amount of care and love and future proofing.
Media preservation is one of the most important issues facing the film, tv, music and even video game worlds, but it seems few people actually care about it. As more people will want to enjoy media from the past it will be harder and harder to find what you are looking for, even if you can find it, it may be altered. Think of how little we were able to save ripped from VHS tapes. Countless commercials, cartoon bumpers, original airings of shows are now lost to time or inaccessible to the average person. We have to do our best to preserve media in its original form, with all of its quirks of the era and then if creators wish, they could create a separate remastered version that enhances the viewing experience for modern viewers. But never, and I mean never stretch, crop or pan and scan 4:3 video into widescreen.
Kingdom Hearts is a great example of this. A lot of the original art assets were lost so when doing the HD Remaster they did not have access to them. Thankfully in the modern era, digital recording as well as storage availability means that this problem won't be propagated much further
Fun fact: Apollo launched in the 60s/70s were filmed on film but then scanned to display on tv all over the world. And since then, the images of Apollo launches we see are those bad quality scans from the 80s... Until someone decided to scan the original films again and put them into a movie: Apollo 11
Hell, if Tom's going to do a video about shitty editing, he's going to make sure it doesn't have shitty editing! But yes, I was really impressed, too. I wonder what the pros think… including whoever remastered that Smashmouth video. 😉
@@junks345 Hank is a ministry of the Government of the Democratic Republic of the Congo. It is responsible for the exploration, production, refining, distribution, marketing, import, export, and conservation of petroleum, natural gas, petroleum products, and liquefied natural gas in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Anyone else notice the '"I only wore red t-shirts for 10 years" - Tom Scott reveals his fashion secrets' in the 'Remasters the way it was meant to be seen' part? Love the easter eggs by William Marler.
The aspect ratio change is what really annoys me about these remasters. Some crop the 4:3 video to a compromise ratio like you see here, while others simply crop the entire frame to 16:9. In either case, you have less lines, lost detail, and the picture quality is arguably worse than it was if they had just left it at 4:3.
4:28 on the right side of the screen: "I only wore red t-shirts for 10 years - Tom Scott reveals his fashion secrets" and 4:38 "I only wore red t-shirts for 10 years - Tom Scott reveals harrowing ordeal"
4:34 The animator has a good ol message for us in the "article". Got a little chuckle. Hats off to his team, they're killing it with production quality
5:20 and up: I recognize that as ghosting, which happens in Sony Vegas Pro with its default setting of "Smart Resample", which is GOD AWFUL because it looks like it wants to melt frames together. It was supposed to make movements seem smoother, but it just doesn't work. When you simple select "Disable Resample" it is fixed.
I studied music technology and I remember one of the most frustrating things when trying to work out how something had been recorded, was the way all streaming platforms had remastered mixes of music, bounced into mono instead of stereo and vice versa. Rebalancing and removing some instruments. It truly is re-recording history and it still makes me... uneasy?
Tom said a few years ago: "Every once-in-a-while I forget how complicated those VFX heavy videos are. Then I plan out another one, record it, send After Effects to hell and swear to myself, not to do this again." I think, this is one of those videos.
The previous evening, in a pub: Bartender: "You know, Tom, I really liked that clip of 'All Star', but the remaster... it's a bit off, innit?" Tom: "I might have some words on that issue, yes."
I hate the general attitude of “this should theoretically be better, so let’s do it and permanently replace the old thing. Doesn’t matter if you liked the old thing, you HAVE to consume the new thing now.”
There's another important aspect to allowing music videos to go HD: UA-cam only has low quality audio for anything under 720p, despite (potentially) having a higher quality version of it in their database. Even if all they did was upscale the video, you're still getting access to a higher quality audio stream, which is arguably very important for a *music* video.
I thought youtube has 'reencoded' the whole website to DASH audio video streams since around 2016? It's opus 128-140 kbps vbr for all resolution except 240p and 144p. Some videos have 192kbps aac for whatever reason but you need to use youtube-dl to stream it.
"Technology Connections" has also made a video about this when Last Christmas was remastered, you (I mean the viewer, but Tom is also welcome) should totally watch it if you want more in-depth explanations
It really annoys me when classic 4:3 ratio TV shows are 'remastered' and put on Netflix or something and changed to 16:9. Sometimes even critical parts of the show can get cut off the top and bottom!
Reminds me of what they did on VHS with pan and scan, they had to guess the most important parts of the scene and chop it down. Made the dinner scene in Popeye even more claustrophobic and confusing, poor guy didn't even get to eat anything.
That 70s Show was designed to be both 16x9 and 4x3... doesn't quite work all the time, but it's not bad. But let's ask Disney about The Simpsons shall we? What a fustercluck that is.
A different thing that often annoys me with aspect ratios is when a video is in 4:3, but is rendered in 16:9 so that it is windowboxed, with bars on both the top, bottom, and sides, on my 5:4 monitors. I want the originals; my monitors are in an aspect ratio which they actually fit!
The amount of easter eggs in this video proves Tom has never lost his sense of humor. "6 child actors who grew up to be older than they were before" got me.
I deliberately tried to stay away from too many All Star puns. Thanks to CuriosityStream for sponsoring, and for helping to pay for all this animation! The free trial offer has now ended, but you can get access to them, to Nebula and my original series, for only $2.99/month here: curiositystream.com/tomscott
4:29 “It is I! William Marler! The animator! I’m coming up with this nonsense to make it look like a real article but no one will notice it’s nonsense, will they?!” 😂😂😂 love your work
"It's sharper, sure. It's just not better." Reminds me of David Bowie's refusal to play in a Coldplay song. "Well it's just not a very good song, is it?"
@@AmunRa1 which song? Coldplay seemed to me a sort of band that was the link between older types of rock and the more minimalistic music lots of pop singers put out. Some often simple musical repititions or just lyrics that don't really have any heart behind them, coldplay often seemed to straddle that fence.
That double image, or person in two positions at once, looks like what used to be a common accident in telecine or deinterlacing work where the fields were out out sequence so that the odd field from one frame was merged with the even field from the previous frame (or vice versa).
5:43 There are lots of deinterlacing algorithms. Each with different strengths and quirks. Some of them give artifacts like that. So I guess they just chose a suboptimal algorithm for the content.
Shrek has taken over All Star so much in the public consciousness, that I legitimately didn't know that it was a tie-in to Mystery Men. This is coming from someone who loves Mystery Men.
The Human League - Don't You Want Me, deserves at least Full HD conversion and as it was shot using 35mm film, the source quality should be sufficient for that. I hope the reels have not been destroyed, as they are nearly 40 years old now. Now we only have a low quality packed-all-to-hell YT upload of it and even the video's theme is emphasising filmmaking so film quality (or at least near) version would be the ultimate tribute to it.
Omg I could listen to you talk about anything for hours on end. You make things that sound dreadfully boring on paper sound like the most interesting thing in the world, and you are exceptional at explaining things so that anyone can understand it. And the editing and animations in this video are absolutely amazing. Massive praise to you and everyone else involved in this video.
There are 10 types of people in the world: 1) Those who understand binary 2) Those who don’t 3) Those who didn’t expect this joke to be in ternary 4) Those who expected this joke to be in ternary because they watched that Numberphile video . . . n) Those who realise this joke has been generalised into base-n
@@Lord_Skeptic n=>10 would suggest you assign a number greater or qual to 10 to the variable n, which would impossible, as this is a comparison. The additional sign always precedes the equal sign, no matter if in maths or in CS. So LessEqual is = or ≥ or GE @Lead Nitrate 10 in base-anything(n) is 0 * n^0 + 1 * n^1, which always results in n for base-n. You confused this with 'what is 10_10 in base-n' (which is A) instead of 'what is 10_n' (which is n). This is true for base-16 as well (obviously). 29_10 = 1 * 16^1 + 13 * 16^0, where 13_16 is the symbol D. This gives you 29_10 = 1D_16 So this works for any base-n. The only problem for base-273 would be to find enough symbols to represent every single number. Don't forget that base-16 includes the numbers 0-15, as base-10 only includes the numbers 0-9. It does not include itself. So F is 15, not 16. 16 is indeed 10.
I was 12 when George Lucas’s special edition versions of Star Wars were released. Aside from a few questionable choices (Mos Eisley intro and concert at Jabba’s palace), I found them to be altogether nice upgrades. It’s only now that I’m older that I see the value in trying to maintain the aesthetic of the original production. When you watch 4K scans of the original Star Wars trilogy without any digital effects added, you gain an even greater appreciation for the painstaking efforts the original crew endured to bring the story to life.
Ok, this was actually really quite interesting, and I’m happy to see a new big green screen video from you, especially since I get to see all of your fun little Easter eggs hidden everywhere, like comments saying “My comment doesn’t quite fit” when they’re clipped at the bottom, etc...also, I had no idea about all of these issues with remastering until now, so it was quite interesting to learn. Anyways, great video as always Tom, and I can’t wait to see what you cover next!
Tom, I think it's worth mentioning that a "remaster" is for copyright purposes, a new work of art. Remastering has been used to effectively extend the copyright protection for many older "products". The effect is giving cash cows (Pink Floyd albums, Star Trek TOS) an artificial extended life. It's playing games with copyright law. Lawyers and accountants push these products. It's against the spirit of the law, and it is only for money.
If an album was originally mastered for vinyl and you put it straight on CD without remastering it, it will sound like mush While record companies do love to milk their cash cows, it's a bit of stretch to say that there's no valid reason to remaster an album
i might have scrolled down just to find a comment like this. yep. they also did it to sc1 with resolutions/fullscreen. gotta rebuy it to get 1080p back!
@@genyakozlov1316 A family friend of mine has a CD with the theatrical 1977 version burned onto it. I prefer it to any later version any day of the week. It's true to what people saw in theaters
There’s also the fact that Disney’s Cinderella has had way too much screen and design alterations, even when it’s supposedly been remastered so many times.
5:18 One of the reasons here is probably: *_Variable Framerate._* That thing that so-called "professional" video editing software still does not support at all to my knowledge. All you need to do when combining videos with different framerates is play each clip at its own native framerate within the output video. Something that has been supported in all good video formats/containers for many years.
MPEG 2 video files can be spliced together with nothing more than cat filea.mpg fileb.mpg filec.mpg >output.mpg or in DOS copy /b filea.mpg+fileb.mpg+filec.mpg output.mpg
The weird doubling you've put down to deinterlacing looks similar to when you use After Effects Frame blending to artificially increase the frame rate of a video. I wonder if the deinterlacing process has reduced the frame rate (because each deinterlaced frame is effectively half a frame) and then they used frame blending to make it up to 50fps?
There's a Park Bench video over on the channel Matt and Tom where they briefly explain why they probably wouldn't redo Two drums and a cymbal, but I can't find it.
@@luuexists I think that's "Breaking the News" and they do have a much higher quality copy of the masters (although falling short of HD) so this can be done.
What annoys me most is that youtube allowed them to upload new files, and keep the old URL. They should've gotten new URLs. UA-cam URLs used to be sacred. Like an archive ID. If it says uploaded in 2009, you know the file is from 2009, and not replaced later on. And all the reactions, likes, and comments come from that original video. I hope this is a one time thing with HD music videos.
I had a DVD with the last concert of Tarja Turunen in Nightwish. It was filmed interlaced on magnetic tape. What i did is separated odd and even frames, filled in empty lines with approximation of neighbouring lines, and merged frames together. What I get is a nice and smooth 50fps video without any deinterlacing artifacts or poorly interpolated frames. So a magnetic tape is better if you want to restore a temporal information (frames) and film is better if you want to restore spatial information (resolution).
I am so grateful to be alive today. My girlfriend saved my life last night. This is a selfie I took in the emergency room after having a severe allergic reaction to almonds. I went into anaphylaxis, meaning my face, my lips, my eyes, my tongue, and my throat all started swelling up rapidly, making it almost impossible for me to breathe. I also had a rash all over my entire body, and I was extremely red. Staying alive had never felt more difficult. At one point, my nasal passage was completely blocked, and it was getting more and more difficult to breathe. They shot me up with Benadryl, steroids, they gave me a breathing tube, and even other stuff that I can’t even remember, and it caused all of the swelling and the rash to go away. Because this was a severe allergic reaction, I need to continue taking steroids and Benadryl for the next week, because it is possible that the allergic reactions could come back at any point over the next week. The steroids and Benadryl make me feel like a zombie, and I really want to take care of my health, so this will be my main focus over the next week. I want to thank my amazing girlfriend, who made the decision to take me to the emergency room the second I started feeling itchy. I was hesitant about going, because I didn’t even want to believe this was actually happening. If it weren’t for my girlfriend driving me to the emergency room only minutes after eating the almonds, there is a good chance that I wouldn’t have made it according to the doctor. This has been without a doubt the hardest few days of my life, but I also look at them as the most important few days of my life. These moments have reminded me about what’s really important in life, and it has made me so grateful to even be here on this earth. I will be prioritizing my health over the next week, and I’ll post updates about how I feel. Thank you all for being patient during these difficult times. This week has been NUTS (too soon for jokes? 😅)
Alanis Morissette had all her videos from Jagged Little Pill rescanned to 4K and they’re glorious. Most of Madonna’s music videos were shot on film yet no effort has been made to rescan the film elements in 4K instead ‘upscaled’ versions are replacing the SD versions on UA-cam.
Enjoy your content make a two drums and cymbals fall of a cliff remastered
Yes, do it please
Then make a very well edited 7 minute video about why you shouldn't have remastered it
@@YetAnotherGeorgeth : Then a 20 minute Park Bench episode talking about both the remaster and the "why you shouldn't have remastered it" video.
*no badgers or blenders were harmed in the making of this video*
Please
I just love the thought of having a "Tom Scott" window in my editing software.
Like Microsoft Clippy, but more helpful and interesting
Red Tee Buddy
just let Tom talk about anything on your screen
@@professoreisner1851 hello professor
@@professoreisner1851 That would be awesome! A little window in the corner of your screen with Tom Scott just talking about something completely random.
06:09 for those who don’t work doing creative roles, you’d be surprised how often the brief is ‘we don’t care, just make it work’ and give someone junior a couple of hours to make it happen
Me in a creative industry with not enough money and way too many ego's... And having been *that* intern...
that's honestly how i did a lot of my work at college. i also did fail half my classes the second semester of the one year i attended but that's not important
@@spencykings3182 and you almost got kicked out that one year for the animal house like toga party you threw? but that's not important now....
I have a distinct feeling that this (,,We don't care, just make it work!'') applies to more than just the creative roles sector.
@@yama123numbercauseytdemand4 It does indeed. I see this all the time in IT. You're wondering why some web site is a pain to use, or is doing weird things, or some company has mangled or lost your data? A lot of the time, "Just make it work," by which the manager means, "Just make it _look like it works,"_ is the issue.
2:00 I love how the editor's software has to have a window for Tom Scott
So underrated, can't believe I missed that!
Is Tom Scott the new Clippy?
@@CaveyMoth maybe
@@CaveyMoth Tom Scott isn't a nuisance, I would *gladly* have him take over my computer programs
OH NO EDITING SOFTWARE ATE TOM SCOTT
1:28 you did a nice attempt simulating 480i by pixelating yourself to 240p, but my internet decided this video was best served to me in 144p, so I could not notice the difference either way!
This leads to an interesting afterthought: how long until web video content starts streaming with post-processing "AI" metadata for sharpening live on the receiver end? Nvidia does this real-time for ray-traced content (games etc.) and it could be entirely plausible that in 2-5 years such a solution could be widespread (unless the approach is sabotaged by patents greed). Perceptual quality per bit transferred could go up quite a bit for the human observer. (Why "web content"? Because there you don't really have to live on basis of oldest common supported solution from 15 years ago or so.)
@@foobar1500 That's more or less how lossy video compression works already - most of what you see is an 'AI' reconstructing frames from metadata hints. The main constraint for rolling it out in a video codec is being able to make a small, low power hardware decoder for things like smart phones.
5:52 - Some of the shots, mainly the outside shots were recorded onto film, because the cameras were much more compact and portable than the TV cameras. In those moments you see no interlacing, because film cameras introduce no such artefact. On the other side, when it was possible, scenes were shot with the bulk TV cameras. This resulted in interlacing. Finally, the transitions between the film cameras and TV cameras are made entirely onto tape, so that's why the one side is interlaced, but the another - not.
The classic "film outside, video inside" effect, albeit less dramatic than in, say, the '70s.
This is really cool, but also sort of sad. Almost like “taping Over” history. Would be nice to have an option on the UA-cam Playback window to switch between the old video and new one.
Also would be nice if they didn't get preferential treatment. For YEARS I've been trying to replace one of my old videos with a HQ rerender. And keep the views/likes/comments/video ID... But youtube vehemently denies all possibility of editing our videos. Yet music labels can do it!? Unfair.
@@x3ICEx UA-cam bends over backwards for anything with money, that's why they're censoring comments for the Chinese government
@@x3ICEx That seems like a bad idea for both people and record labels
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@@x3ICEx I mean, there are good reasons as to why UA-cam would want to avoid giving everyone the power to change their videos whilst keeping all their views, comments, and IDs, but I get the frustration.
In case you aren't aware, they recently remastered some of the old Star Trek shows by re-importing the original films and recreating all of the old effects using CG. The result is incredible, as you'd expect from film, but the amount of work that must have went into trying to match every scene shot for shot and trying to recreate every painted effect with digital effects is unfathomable to me. I'd love to see you do a video about this!
It's been like 10 years since they remastered TOS. And yes, they did an impressive jobs on most shots.
Unfortunately some of the shows were shot directly to tape which is why we can't have remastered version of Voyager for example. Technology Connections did a video on this.
Antoine Chauvet Technically TOS was always shot on film, they just added effects to that to “modernize” it and try to make it appealing to new viewers. TNG on the other had, they HAD to do what D2W describes by redoing all the SD-only effects.
And then theres the travesty of BtVS's remaster.
I've seen some of these, and those CG effect substitutions are awful, takes me right out of the show. 1960s sets and costumes, BAM, modern CG ship and planet.
Rest in peace Steve Harwell, you made our childhood memorable
The thumbnail aged very quickly
Hearing Tom saying “Demon child” is something I never knew I needed.
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Ben thank you so much both of you
Same with him laughing
As of posting this reply, this video has 666k views
@@zuzanalovitt1325 you're welcome : )
Tom, your edging closer to a frame by frame breakdown of the smash mouth video. Which I am 100% behind.
@Painted Dead Tom Scott and Hank Green should collaborate on this.
“It does seem a terrible option to make it worse.”
Well, the media men beg to differ
Judging by the blur in the VHS picture
This is genius and made my day Xd
@@criptych the films we roll are getting really slim
@@FriskDrinksBrisk the nostalgia's getting warm so we might as well sell
Democrats love to make things worse
“If you are gonna change the historical record it does seem a terrible option to make it worse” no one has ever described the controversy around the Star Wars remasters better
if you want, you can look for the "despecialised edition" it's a fan remaster based on fixing up the official remaster, combined with laser-disk footage and original theatre release film.
@@NotAMinifig There are other options too, like "4K77" and its counterparts which, instead of cobbling together footage from various sources, track down original theater run film prints and scan them in at 4K resolution.
Free Hat!
@@tituslafrombois1164 where would you find such a video? Is it online?
@@sawspitfire422 I expect you would start with a good VPN, and then pirate it. If it's openly available anywhere, it will be shut down before too much time passes.
There's also the future-proofing aspect of remastering. If you're going to do this to say, Smash Mouth's video, then what about in the future when someone wants to tart it up again? If the current remastered version becomes the norm, they might no thave access to the original. This has been a big problem in audio for years. Look at the Universal masters fire that they kept quiet for years. Buying a new CD from any of those old artists can NEVER EVER be using the original or close to because they've gone for ever.
As a Beatles fan, I'm eternally grateful for the efforts they've made to preserve their stuff, but I feel bad for others who have not had the same amount of care and love and future proofing.
Media preservation is one of the most important issues facing the film, tv, music and even video game worlds, but it seems few people actually care about it. As more people will want to enjoy media from the past it will be harder and harder to find what you are looking for, even if you can find it, it may be altered. Think of how little we were able to save ripped from VHS tapes. Countless commercials, cartoon bumpers, original airings of shows are now lost to time or inaccessible to the average person. We have to do our best to preserve media in its original form, with all of its quirks of the era and then if creators wish, they could create a separate remastered version that enhances the viewing experience for modern viewers. But never, and I mean never stretch, crop or pan and scan 4:3 video into widescreen.
Kingdom Hearts is a great example of this. A lot of the original art assets were lost so when doing the HD Remaster they did not have access to them.
Thankfully in the modern era, digital recording as well as storage availability means that this problem won't be propagated much further
Fun fact: Apollo launched in the 60s/70s were filmed on film but then scanned to display on tv all over the world. And since then, the images of Apollo launches we see are those bad quality scans from the 80s... Until someone decided to scan the original films again and put them into a movie: Apollo 11
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i want to watch that so bad but that film is not released anywhere it seems. such a shame
@@danielhuang2488 pirate bay genius
@@danielhuang2488 AppleTV for 4k, most other major streaming services in HD
They destroyed or "lost" all the original film. Why do you think they would do that, hmmm?
My goodness... I love all the visuals and effects that are used for demonstrations. Thank you for always putting so much effort in teaching.
@Maike Nothing is more enjoyable to watch than something someone talented enjoyed making.
Hell, if Tom's going to do a video about shitty editing, he's going to make sure it doesn't have shitty editing! But yes, I was really impressed, too. I wonder what the pros think… including whoever remastered that Smashmouth video. 😉
I just realised, Tom heard the Hank's plan to analyse every shot in the remastered version of All star, and this is the warning not to do that!
Can someone get this video to him?
Image if Hank hadn't given up on the that endeavour(´∵｀)
Who the eff is Hank?
@@junks345 Hank is a ministry of the Government of the Democratic Republic of the Congo. It is responsible for the exploration, production, refining, distribution, marketing, import, export, and conservation of petroleum, natural gas, petroleum products, and liquefied natural gas in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
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Anyone else notice the '"I only wore red t-shirts for 10 years" - Tom Scott reveals his fashion secrets' in the 'Remasters the way it was meant to be seen' part? Love the easter eggs by William Marler.
thank you for pointing this out!
Can someone just give the editor a hug. Goddamn that’s some high quality.
A second in I could already tell the editing was great. This Milliam Warler guy is awesome.
Sometimes a bit unnecessary, but definitely high quality.
best video editing ever!
@@SpaceTimeBeing_ "Well you see, sometimes in life, things don't turn out the way you expect."
-Tamago2474
Tom Scott wanted to flash on the music video editors
“It’s sharper, sure” YOU HAD ONE CHANCE TO SAY “but it ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed”
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The aspect ratio change is what really annoys me about these remasters. Some crop the 4:3 video to a compromise ratio like you see here, while others simply crop the entire frame to 16:9. In either case, you have less lines, lost detail, and the picture quality is arguably worse than it was if they had just left it at 4:3.
Yes, it is a major pet peeve for me when the original aspect ratio is messed with, and the frame rate sometimes gets choppier.
4:28 on the right side of the screen: "I only wore red t-shirts for 10 years - Tom Scott reveals his fashion secrets" and 4:38 "I only wore red t-shirts for 10 years - Tom Scott reveals harrowing ordeal"
His video editors are amazing
"5 child actors that grew up to become older than they were before"
this just killed me
Perception 10
Have you read the articles below those headlines? Quite entertaining.
@@andreaoak Milliam Warler reads the comments too :D
If you're interested, Technology Connections made a video going into further depth on this topic.
Was literally about to make this comment
What up?
@@TotoDG nice name
Thank you! I knew I'd already seen this somewhere.
What's the link?
The rewatchability of these videos is incredible
I know right! I can always so see Tom again when I’m bored
Unlike the replaced music videos
4:34 The animator has a good ol message for us in the "article". Got a little chuckle. Hats off to his team, they're killing it with production quality
5:20 and up: I recognize that as ghosting, which happens in Sony Vegas Pro with its default setting of "Smart Resample", which is GOD AWFUL because it looks like it wants to melt frames together. It was supposed to make movements seem smoother, but it just doesn't work. When you simple select "Disable Resample" it is fixed.
I studied music technology and I remember one of the most frustrating things when trying to work out how something had been recorded, was the way all streaming platforms had remastered mixes of music, bounced into mono instead of stereo and vice versa. Rebalancing and removing some instruments. It truly is re-recording history and it still makes me... uneasy?
Tom said a few years ago: "Every once-in-a-while I forget how complicated those VFX heavy videos are. Then I plan out another one, record it, send After Effects to hell and swear to myself, not to do this again." I think, this is one of those videos.
He's got an animator now to do that part. The silhouet in front of the screen at 6:16 is him making a cameo.
@@Jeroen_Ech nice catch! Real Cameo!
The previous evening, in a pub:
Bartender: "You know, Tom, I really liked that clip of 'All Star', but the remaster... it's a bit off, innit?"
Tom: "I might have some words on that issue, yes."
A virtual pub, actually
Tom:Here's a QR code it will explain everything.
I remember pubs.
😭😭😭
I hate the general attitude of “this should theoretically be better, so let’s do it and permanently replace the old thing. Doesn’t matter if you liked the old thing, you HAVE to consume the new thing now.”
We have a winner!
same with software updates, subscription models... etc
@@FrozenBusChannelyou can archive diloftear tho
(I meant software but that misspelling is too funny to correct)
@@Xnoob545 sadly some companies deliberately disable the functionalities, even though you can still install them
I'm looking at you, ROCKSTAR
There's another important aspect to allowing music videos to go HD: UA-cam only has low quality audio for anything under 720p, despite (potentially) having a higher quality version of it in their database. Even if all they did was upscale the video, you're still getting access to a higher quality audio stream, which is arguably very important for a *music* video.
Finally here's an explanation that makes sense! :-)
I hope someone splices it and uploads it on another platform
yes why the hell choose youtube then?
I thought youtube has 'reencoded' the whole website to DASH audio video streams since around 2016? It's opus 128-140 kbps vbr for all resolution except 240p and 144p. Some videos have 192kbps aac for whatever reason but you need to use youtube-dl to stream it.
@@hobrin4242 Because that's where people are searching it
"Technology Connections" has also made a video about this when Last Christmas was remastered, you (I mean the viewer, but Tom is also welcome) should totally watch it if you want more in-depth explanations
Ooooh, I very much enjoy Technology Connection video style; I must check this out, thanks!
I was wondering why the deja vu was driving me nuts
you (I mean you, but tom is also welcome)
Just discovered Technology Connections last week. It's a great channel.
@@dame-e-in1258 Welcome to the group of people who listen to a guy talking about toasters for hours. ;)
Rest in peace Steve Harwell
The Smash Mouth - All Star remaster was clearly the Shrek movie.
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Had a stroke?
@@shellygavaller8442 r/hadastroke
@@cassio_real r/ihavereddit
@@lewdwe1596 r/yeahido
It really annoys me when classic 4:3 ratio TV shows are 'remastered' and put on Netflix or something and changed to 16:9. Sometimes even critical parts of the show can get cut off the top and bottom!
Reminds me of what they did on VHS with pan and scan, they had to guess the most important parts of the scene and chop it down. Made the dinner scene in Popeye even more claustrophobic and confusing, poor guy didn't even get to eat anything.
@@geoffreywilson7008 Then there's Back To The Future which was framed to be filmed in both 4:3 and 16:9 ratios within the same camera
That 70s Show was designed to be both 16x9 and 4x3... doesn't quite work all the time, but it's not bad.
But let's ask Disney about The Simpsons shall we? What a fustercluck that is.
I’m not even hardcore videophile but the aspect ratio abomination really triggers me too
A different thing that often annoys me with aspect ratios is when a video is in 4:3, but is rendered in 16:9 so that it is windowboxed, with bars on both the top, bottom, and sides, on my 5:4 monitors. I want the originals; my monitors are in an aspect ratio which they actually fit!
The years stopped coming.
Safe to say we can probably expect a wave of "wHo'S hErE bEcAuSe Of ToM sCoTt" esque comments on the smashmouth video for the next few days
those comments will probably get drowned out by already constant flow of shrek meme comments
Edit:Nevermind if you sort by new its already begun
Not just smash mouth it's the same with Last Christmas.
Smashmouth doesn't need Tom Scott to get viral-level traffic.
ya
At least it’s not gonna be as bad as “who’s watching in 2020”
Tom, I just want to thank you for including captions for all your videos. We so appreciate it!
And good quality, too!
Its very helpful, especially when ur eating loud food
@@thefunkiestswag so true!!
RIP Steve Harwell 😢 Such a shame this shite remaster of the All-Star music video is part of his legacy
Your pfp is absolutely perfect
@@Pangloss6413 Is that a furry character?
@@HOTD108_It’s Ralsei, from Deltarune.
The amount of easter eggs in this video proves Tom has never lost his sense of humor.
"6 child actors who grew up to be older than they were before" got me.
It's the editor (not Tom himself; check out the rest of those "articles"), but he's definitely hilarious, yes! 😄
I fail to see the humour
I don't get it
2:00 Reticulating splines...
I'm annoyed I didn't get to find out the rest of the BSOD text hidden behind Tom...I suspect there's a quality joke in there that we only half see...
Is nobody going to talk about how amazingly edited this video is
You just did
I was just about to mention it haha
Amazing editing.
Why?
Awful audio
I deliberately tried to stay away from too many All Star puns. Thanks to CuriosityStream for sponsoring, and for helping to pay for all this animation! The free trial offer has now ended, but you can get access to them, to Nebula and my original series, for only $2.99/month here: curiositystream.com/tomscott
The Easter eggs in this video are the best
Hi
Why in the world does this only have 29 likes
@@davel1722 Probably because it was posted about two months after the video was uploaded
Pin this!
I need a greenscreen version of Tom saying "That's not a clear, high-definition picture, that's some kind of demon child" for... reasons...
I think I know what you need it for... now I want it too
"How dare you!?"
“it’s sharper, sure. but it’s not better” you really missed the opportunity to say “but it’s not the sharpest tool in the shed”
No
No
No
No
No
4:29 “It is I! William Marler! The animator! I’m coming up with this nonsense to make it look like a real article but no one will notice it’s nonsense, will they?!” 😂😂😂 love your work
"It's sharper, sure. It's just not better."
Reminds me of David Bowie's refusal to play in a Coldplay song.
"Well it's just not a very good song, is it?"
"It's sharper, sure. It's just not the sharpest tool in the shed."
It's important to note that David Bowie's refusal was about the quality of the song in particular, and not of Coldplay's music in general.
@@AmunRa1 which song? Coldplay seemed to me a sort of band that was the link between older types of rock and the more minimalistic music lots of pop singers put out. Some often simple musical repititions or just lyrics that don't really have any heart behind them, coldplay often seemed to straddle that fence.
This is like George Lucas going back and editing the original Star Wars trilogy and adding bad CGI
At least Lucas had the original films and not a poor quality VHS version of them.
Oh wait...
What? They really did that? I've never watched it but it's really weird. Usually they restart from zero.
You better shut up or they'll make us another re-re-master with Jar Jar Binks in it. DO YOU WANT THAT?
Jar Jar Binks jokes, really got dated in 2009 !
I tried to change my screen quality when Tom made himself more pixelated
Hahahaha
you’re hd that’s why
I always watch videos at max quality when im using WIFI
@@arandomsupra who doesn't
Petition to get Tom a Netflix special
Rohan Sangani please
YES YES YES YES YE SSYE SYE SYS EYSVESYFBUQA
netflix doesn't deserve him
Yes. It would be really good, something like Vox's series, maybe on tech, lamguage, or something else
Seconded
4:37 - “I only wore red T-shirt’s for 10 years”
There’s tons of Easter eggs in this video
"Tom Scott reveals harrowing secret" is what got me
5 child actors who grew up to be older than they were before
I can't see them because I am in 144p
"Top 2 ways to confuse people who don't understand binary, number 10 will surprise you!"
Hahaha
Well, Rest in peace Steve Harwell. No one is ever gonna forget you
It wouldn't be a tom scott video without a pinned comment from 4 hours ago..
WAIT SIX DAYS???
Once it was a month ago
we've had months before
There was once when it was 1 week ago
Never question the ascended ones
Not a real comment :/
That double image, or person in two positions at once, looks like what used to be a common accident in telecine or deinterlacing work where the fields were out out sequence so that the odd field from one frame was merged with the even field from the previous frame (or vice versa).
The interlacing “combing” effect on his hands at 3:50 when he’s talking about interlacing. Master editing job 🙌🏻
5:43 There are lots of deinterlacing algorithms. Each with different strengths and quirks. Some of them give artifacts like that. So I guess they just chose a suboptimal algorithm for the content.
A.k.a. underpaid editor.
Stop at 4:36 and read!
William Marler, I see and recognize your effort in animating this and want to thank you for it.
Same! It's excellent work, and I don't just mean the Easter eggs! :D I wonder if that's his actual cameo in the "underpaid VFX editor" scene...
Shrek has taken over All Star so much in the public consciousness, that I legitimately didn't know that it was a tie-in to Mystery Men. This is coming from someone who loves Mystery Men.
The fact that you actually referred to TVL correctly as "lines" and not "pixels" made me incredibly happy.
The Human League - Don't You Want Me, deserves at least Full HD conversion and as it was shot using 35mm film, the source quality should be sufficient for that. I hope the reels have not been destroyed, as they are nearly 40 years old now. Now we only have a low quality packed-all-to-hell YT upload of it and even the video's theme is emphasising filmmaking so film quality (or at least near) version would be the ultimate tribute to it.
It definitely deserves it but tracking the reels can be a real hassle, if they're still intact there's no guarantee they could be found
@@gwennifergracie-mclauchlan5675 a reel hassle then
@@mmixlinus perish for that pun
@@M50A1 Yes.. I'll die my best
Gives me similar vibes to putting animation in the 60fps thingy
Omg I could listen to you talk about anything for hours on end. You make things that sound dreadfully boring on paper sound like the most interesting thing in the world, and you are exceptional at explaining things so that anyone can understand it. And the editing and animations in this video are absolutely amazing. Massive praise to you and everyone else involved in this video.
"Top 2 ways to confuse people who don't understand binary, number 10 will surprise you!"
Nice.
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who know binary. Those who don't.
And those who thought this was a binary joke.
There are 10 types of people in the world:
1) Those who understand binary
2) Those who don’t
3) Those who didn’t expect this joke to be in ternary
4) Those who expected this joke to be in ternary because they watched that Numberphile video
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n) Those who realise this joke has been generalised into base-n
@@Lord_Skeptic
n=>10 would suggest you assign a number greater or qual to 10 to the variable n, which would impossible, as this is a comparison. The additional sign always precedes the equal sign, no matter if in maths or in CS.
So LessEqual is = or ≥ or GE
@Lead Nitrate
10 in base-anything(n) is 0 * n^0 + 1 * n^1, which always results in n for base-n. You confused this with 'what is 10_10 in base-n' (which is A) instead of 'what is 10_n' (which is n).
This is true for base-16 as well (obviously).
29_10 = 1 * 16^1 + 13 * 16^0, where 13_16 is the symbol D. This gives you
29_10 = 1D_16
So this works for any base-n. The only problem for base-273 would be to find enough symbols to represent every single number.
Don't forget that base-16 includes the numbers 0-15, as base-10 only includes the numbers 0-9. It does not include itself. So F is 15, not 16. 16 is indeed 10.
For all bases n; 10 = n.
Never revisited so much of my college math in the comments section of a video about music video editing before.
I was 12 when George Lucas’s special edition versions of Star Wars were released. Aside from a few questionable choices (Mos Eisley intro and concert at Jabba’s palace), I found them to be altogether nice upgrades. It’s only now that I’m older that I see the value in trying to maintain the aesthetic of the original production. When you watch 4K scans of the original Star Wars trilogy without any digital effects added, you gain an even greater appreciation for the painstaking efforts the original crew endured to bring the story to life.
Ok, this was actually really quite interesting, and I’m happy to see a new big green screen video from you, especially since I get to see all of your fun little Easter eggs hidden everywhere, like comments saying “My comment doesn’t quite fit” when they’re clipped at the bottom, etc...also, I had no idea about all of these issues with remastering until now, so it was quite interesting to learn. Anyways, great video as always Tom, and I can’t wait to see what you cover next!
So, as always: If companies kept the hq source material:
Great.
Otherwise:
Not. so. much...
Tom, I think it's worth mentioning that a "remaster" is for copyright purposes, a new work of art. Remastering has been used to effectively extend the copyright protection for many older "products". The effect is giving cash cows (Pink Floyd albums, Star Trek TOS) an artificial extended life. It's playing games with copyright law. Lawyers and accountants push these products. It's against the spirit of the law, and it is only for money.
If an album was originally mastered for vinyl and you put it straight on CD without remastering it, it will sound like mush
While record companies do love to milk their cash cows, it's a bit of stretch to say that there's no valid reason to remaster an album
Pink Floyd? Those albums are protected for 120 years already. The only reason to remaster is to.. remaster for digital media.
"If you're gonna change the historical record, it does seem a terrible option to make it worse..."
Warcraft III remaster in a nutshell
i might have scrolled down just to find a comment like this. yep. they also did it to sc1 with resolutions/fullscreen. gotta rebuy it to get 1080p back!
well it was remastered by Activision, Not Blizzard so a shoddy job was expected. If only we still had old Blizzard.
Star Wars Original Trilogy Special Edition in a nutshell
Dark Souls 1 would like to join that club
RIP STEVE
Digital noise reduction is a nightmare for movies and music videos, making everything waxy and smooth with ghosting
The Beatles' 1965 video for 'Paperback Writer' is another fine example of how good 35mm film can look.
Yep. That’s just a straight transfer from film, though, because it predates videotape editing.
35mm film is far superior to even the highest digital quality (4k/8k).
"If you are going to change the historical record, it does seem a terrible option... to make it worse."
George Lucas: *shifts nervously*
*cries in SW fan*
New CGI wasn't the best, but I can't bother watching the original version when additional scenes massively improve the narrative.
@@genyakozlov1316 i agree
@@genyakozlov1316 A family friend of mine has a CD with the theatrical 1977 version burned onto it. I prefer it to any later version any day of the week. It's true to what people saw in theaters
Was looking for a SW/Lucas reference, was not disappointed!
I wonder how this ties into the “remastered” animated Disney movies. I’ve seen comparisons where the colors are completely different
There’s also the fact that Disney’s Cinderella has had way too much screen and design alterations, even when it’s supposedly been remastered so many times.
The editing on this is phenomenal, props to you Tom!
4:30 the Easter eggs in this are top notch - for the record, yes we did
Holy Crap. The level of editing and composing in this video is just astounding.
5:18 One of the reasons here is probably: *_Variable Framerate._* That thing that so-called "professional" video editing software still does not support at all to my knowledge. All you need to do when combining videos with different framerates is play each clip at its own native framerate within the output video. Something that has been supported in all good video formats/containers for many years.
MPEG 2 video files can be spliced together with nothing more than cat filea.mpg fileb.mpg filec.mpg >output.mpg or in DOS copy /b filea.mpg+fileb.mpg+filec.mpg output.mpg
"5 child actors who grew up to be older than they were before"
Top 2 ways to confuse people who don’t understand binary, number 10 will surprise you!
lmao, from "Dylan W"'s comment's reply
rest in piece steve
I too remembered this video after I read the news
Technology Connections did a video on this topic also for anyone interested.
The title should have been
"Why some remastered music videos look awful (Remastered)"
That'll be in 20 years, actually.
3:20 bottom comment says: "My comment doesn't even fit!"
thank you william marler very cool
Hahaha more people need to see this
“That guy playing the piano looks familiar....
I can clearly read it when you said it, but how did you do it?
“AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY-OH”
@@Guztav1337 maybe it's clearer on pc?
I'm very sad you didn't begin this with "Somebody once told me"
He's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
The weird doubling you've put down to deinterlacing looks similar to when you use After Effects Frame blending to artificially increase the frame rate of a video. I wonder if the deinterlacing process has reduced the frame rate (because each deinterlaced frame is effectively half a frame) and then they used frame blending to make it up to 50fps?
If tom scott said "no idea why" that means it really is stupid
Can you remaster your _"Two drums and a cymbal"_ video!? ❤
There's a Park Bench video over on the channel Matt and Tom where they briefly explain why they probably wouldn't redo Two drums and a cymbal, but I can't find it.
@@luuexists cymbal*
What about the Remove Fingerprint with Pineapple video?
@@luuexists I think that's "Breaking the News" and they do have a much higher quality copy of the masters (although falling short of HD) so this can be done.
@@aditsood9369 Ah, thanks for pointing that out!
What annoys me most is that youtube allowed them to upload new files, and keep the old URL. They should've gotten new URLs.
UA-cam URLs used to be sacred. Like an archive ID. If it says uploaded in 2009, you know the file is from 2009, and not replaced later on. And all the reactions, likes, and comments come from that original video.
I hope this is a one time thing with HD music videos.
I had a DVD with the last concert of Tarja Turunen in Nightwish. It was filmed interlaced on magnetic tape. What i did is separated odd and even frames, filled in empty lines with approximation of neighbouring lines, and merged frames together. What I get is a nice and smooth 50fps video without any deinterlacing artifacts or poorly interpolated frames. So a magnetic tape is better if you want to restore a temporal information (frames) and film is better if you want to restore spatial information (resolution).
Where can I watch your version?
4:54 the beginning of Tom Scott’s breakdown over what happened to All Star by Smash Mouth
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED. NOT WHAT I DESERVED.
Rest in peace Tom, you made the world a smarter place
It is now time to rant about that "remastered" Rick Astley video that's been trending today.
I fing hate that one. How can people enjoy these, they look terrible
@@lol-ih1tl they love high framerates. they really love that soap opera effect
A lot of the problems with that are from the low bitrate of the source.
Never gonna give you up
@@RGC_animation never gonna let you down
can i just say that tom is one of the coolest people? i mean seriously, he's accomplished so much.
I am so grateful to be alive today. My girlfriend saved my life last night. This is a selfie I took in the emergency room after having a severe allergic reaction to almonds. I went into anaphylaxis, meaning my face, my lips, my eyes, my tongue, and my throat all started swelling up rapidly, making it almost impossible for me to breathe. I also had a rash all over my entire body, and I was extremely red. Staying alive had never felt more difficult. At one point, my nasal passage was completely blocked, and it was getting more and more difficult to breathe. They shot me up with Benadryl, steroids, they gave me a breathing tube, and even other stuff that I can’t even remember, and it caused all of the swelling and the rash to go away. Because this was a severe allergic reaction, I need to continue taking steroids and Benadryl for the next week, because it is possible that the allergic reactions could come back at any point over the next week. The steroids and Benadryl make me feel like a zombie, and I really want to take care of my health, so this will be my main focus over the next week. I want to thank my amazing girlfriend, who made the decision to take me to the emergency room the second I started feeling itchy. I was hesitant about going, because I didn’t even want to believe this was actually happening. If it weren’t for my girlfriend driving me to the emergency room only minutes after eating the almonds, there is a good chance that I wouldn’t have made it according to the doctor. This has been without a doubt the hardest few days of my life, but I also look at them as the most important few days of my life. These moments have reminded me about what’s really important in life, and it has made me so grateful to even be here on this earth. I will be prioritizing my health over the next week, and I’ll post updates about how I feel. Thank you all for being patient during these difficult times. This week has been NUTS (too soon for jokes? 😅)
@@heidshows9618 wtf
@@heidshows9618 you literally just copied wtf
@@heidshows9618 Uh-
I love the technique of making his own image suffer the tech failures he's talking about. Kudos. Very well done.
Alanis Morissette had all her videos from Jagged Little Pill rescanned to 4K and they’re glorious. Most of Madonna’s music videos were shot on film yet no effort has been made to rescan the film elements in 4K instead ‘upscaled’ versions are replacing the SD versions on UA-cam.
Dude remaster “we flew a kite in a public place”
I am still waiting for a full music video
I love the smash mouth BSOD (blue screen of death). Made my day.
They recently re-uploaded some of AC/DC's old music videos as 4K film scans and they look fantastic.
5:56 Tom Scott becomes eminem
Those artifacts are from simple field blending when deinterlacing instead of using a motion compensated deinterlacer.
Man the algorithm has a bad sense of humor