Man. I remember my first instructor. It was horrific. He was constantly on edge and got upset pretty quick. I endured that for about ten hours. After that I told him to look for someone else. The second instructor was much, much better. But I never had an instructor like this student. That would`ve been awesome. This instructor knows how to calm down the student and get his attention. Polite and competent. Now, and I can see that everybody here agrees, that`s how it should be.
Yeah it makes it tough to learn when your instructor is wound up. Glad you didn’t just accept it like a lot of student do. If your not clicking with your instructor then try another don’t settle if you can help it. I actually have had a few students that don’t like how I teach/instruct, but it’s all about the student learning so I don’t take offense (to each his own.) Thank you for the awesome comment ! I appreciate it !!!
I did that, too! On my very first lesson I did the death grip with both hands in level flight at 1200ft when a sudden hearty gust of wind blew the tail upward and nosed us down a bit. That spooked me for a moment--it was actually my first time in a small plane in anything more than calm winds.
Very good flight instruction (not to mention cool headed on that last landing). Good video for anyone interested in taking flight lessons. Flying the aircraft is actually very simple. It's the very heavy multitasking that makes it challenging to the new students. But no worries, it soon becomes easier when your internal copilot (muscle memory) begins to control the aircraft, allowing you to concentrate on other important things. But yes at first it is overwhelming (airspeed, course corrections, hold altitude, bank angle, RPM's, traffic, trim, course, attitude, engine guage scan....).
You sound like the flight instructor I wish I would of had back when I first took a couple flying lessons more years ago than I want to think about. Who knows, maybe I would have kept it up and fulfilled a dream and got my license! Fun video! I'll keep watching, thanks!
Do it man!!! Never too late!👍👍...I had my private pilot for 10 years, then finally got my instrument and then commercial . Best thing I could have done . Plus o learned so much
My thoughts exactly! I also quit after a while (10 hrs) partially because I had a young instructor with very little patience and personality. It was over 30 years ago and it still bothers me to this day that I never went back. Now I can't afford it.
LOL,,, Oren says, it was UGLY but I didnt touch a thing.. LOVE IT... Hes an amazing instructor. I brought him to TN twice to instruct me on my landings that I was struggling with using a local instructor..
Although yoke input is needed while taxing in windy conditions. I would suggest having this student sit on his hands during taxing for a while. The yoke is not a steering wheel. 👍🏽
i wish you still made videos like these. I'm prepping for my ppl and this is really helping me calm my nerves. its really showing me what to expect with no filters. thank you for posting this!
Hey Rosemary thank you for watching. Don’t stress you’ll do great ! Fly more and have fun. I have 5 terabytes of video ! I just got new editing software and my braces come off next month ( so i can do voice overs again). Ill try to get videos up on a regular basis this year ! I need to hire a editor lol. Ill see if I cant make another landing video asap (they seem to be the most popular anyway). Here is a list of private pilot check ride prep. I go over it a few days before my students go on their check-rides. Maybe see if you have a local “cheat sheet” or “gouge” also. docs.google.com/file/d/1JwwTS3Ct0HreG-zxvsBfZrg_mKuWVh0r/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword
Having the student flying in the round out controlling drift and touchdown and manipulating power over a long distance is extremely helpful. I love requesting long landings on an non busy 10,000 foot runway.
Yeah the power out “plop” over and over again is not really teaching them how to land but how to time the Cessnas landing so it’s soft. Where as using power your landing the plane when you want not just when the plane quits flying. Just be careful with the slow flight down the runway, there’s a reason the ACS says 1500 ft. I always tell my students not to do it on their own. It’s a great teaching tool though and you don’t see many instructors that even know to use it.
Sometimes I ask student to move hands from a control column during ground roll for better understanding that it is not used for directional control on the ground.
Hmmm I'm actually gonna try that. Can't keep their hand on the throttle or focus on the pedals... So they will only get to touch those and I have the yoke for this takeoff lmfao
From all the comments below I feel like I was blessed with a great primary instructor - a young kid right out of Embry Riddle who had patience, a calm and calming demeanor, Brian Longen, who was a fantastic instructor. My recurrent instructor is every bit as good, Dustin Showalter! I'm very lucky and wish all new pilot wannabees could be as fortunate. When I started IFR training I already knew what a good instructor is and how they should conduct themselves so when I got a complete jerk of an instructor for IFR I fired him after 1 lesson and found a good one. I never did finish IFR but I'm not dead yet so maybe it's still a possibility.
I've only set foot in a private plane once, and it was as a passenger. I felt like throwing up the entire time thanks to a *really* windy day. So as someone with effectively 0 experience flying planes, even *I* have to agree with the other commenters. He seems like a great instructor even to someone like me with no experience whatsoever! Somebody press Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, we need like, at least a hundred more of this guy!
Wow. This was beyond helpful to me. Thanks! Learning to fly and land in a sim. I successfully landed in grass without knowing how to land, took off again, then crashed trying to land on the actual run way. lol. This helped me understand how to use flaps and confirmed how fiddly this plane is. Subbed. It also gave me anxiety. :)
I get stressed all the lights off using headset in my sim at home. sims are good training tools ! Have fun and landing in sims can be harder then real life ... not enough feedback. Sims are all visual so its challenging to land.
Remember my first landing, was a bumpy weather, not a perfect center line, but it was landing you remember for all of your life. I had an awesome instructor as this one, very calm and knows exactly what to say and what to do to make you become kickass pilot! And the best thing he teach me is "You can always go around"! It's way better to G/A in case of something and be able to fly the bird again, just use this. Not looking good even if you are on glideslope and centerline, but your feeling is not the best, just, go around!
Great advice! “You can always go around” Student can get in the mindset that go arounds mean they are failing when in fact it shows they are in control and making good decisions. I like to see go arounds ! Thanks for watching!
My first takeoff was behind a FedEx DC10 in Memphis and my first landing on that flight was in front of a FedEx DC10. The takeoff didn’t bother me but seeing that huge plane to my left as I turned final scared the crap out of me.
Being a pilot is my dream and I could learn something from your videos about flying so thanks and keep up the good work also your a great flight instructor
Thank you! You won’t regret getting your pilots license! (Your bank account might regret it, but you won’t lol ). I have a student that pretty much taught him self to land watching my videos. He hired me after watching all my videos over and over and surprisingly he learned a lot from them all I had to do was work on his confidence to implement it and tweak a little here and there.
Don’t use videos for learning purposes for flight it might help knowing what knots is or what altitude is if u want to learn u need to learn and be there yourself be in that seat flying that plane taking off and having an instructor
I think Rob Schneider said it best ....” You can do it! “ . Thanks for watching and best of luck ! Good landings or bad landings just have fun and fly more !
wow i would love to have a flight instructer like that he is very nice and he can fly well which means he must have a very experienced and good flight instructer
Second flight and he's landing? Wow! I am on my 4th flight and I have been taking off but haven't landed yet. That might be coming soon though. Great instructor!
Thanks ! He struggled later don’t worry lots of bad landings in later lessons lol. Landings are harder when you try to land. The Cessna 172 should get half the credit for most landings anyway ( the good half at that). Thanks for watching! Stay light on the controls and as you flare keep building back pressure until it looks like takeoff ... maybe a 1/4 or less of the runway will be visible over the cowling. As you build back pressure you also have to build right rudder pressure to keep the nose straight. Also don’t “ try to land” just burn off the airspeed just above the ground until it sets down gently. Now forget all that ...fly more and have fun !
Excellent instruction. I had a crabby old guy that made no bones about it that he was doing it because he couldn’t retire, and he made it pretty obvious he didn’t want to be there. Almost no instruction other than “rudder, watch the horizon, speed etc” I got they my solo and stopped. Wanting to get back to it.
My first landing was perfect, I got lucky, and my CFI made sure that there were no crosswinds at all that day. The next few were a little rough. I never spilled his coffee though.
You also might listen to LiveATC.net .Radio calls are usually the hardest part for new pilots ... that or landing lol 😂. Don’t worry about it for the first flight though.
Sweet! We have a new restaurant on the field now so come back anytime! I did hear a rumor that they didn’t serve breakfast though (which is my favorite fly in meal), and crazy if it’s true!
It was set for takeoff and it’s pretty much the same for the rest of the pattern. Once you climb to pattern altitude and level off with2300- 2000 rpm and the plane slows to 90-80 the trim won’t be needed. Then when you reduce to 1500 and add 10 degrees of flaps and pitch down to hold 90-80 it will stabilize and you won’t need trim. It works all the way through the pattern with the takeoff trim setting. Give the aircraft time to settle after making your changes and then trim off any pressure. Don’t trim before changing power of flaps or while turning and let it adjust for a 5 count after making all your changes. Also don’t fist 👊🏻 the yoke ... hard to feel the pressure. Have a light grip or just use finger pressure.
Nice video. Thank you. Notice that the PUT has his index finger over the throttle friction nut. I am a novice but found I had this problem where the friction nut kept tightening. Eventually figured it out. Now try to keep my finger against but never over the nut. Thanks again.
I have never flown a jet ... but I have sat in the cockpit of a few. As soon as I sat down and looked at all the dang buttons flying jets seemed pretty complicated.
@@NEROAviation I've flown both, and a jet with a HUD is incredibly easy to land. When I went from jets to GA, it was like stepping into a different world. Like anything else, you get used to it and then it becomes second nature.
Bigger planes look more stable during flight. That is due to size and much higher landing speed. The controls are much less responsive, and you have much less margin for error when landing airliners. You have to anticipate and always start correcting in advance. Smaller GA planes, look bumpy and feel like they are about to go out of control. But in fact, they self correct, much easier to steer, have much larger margin for error during approach. Think it as docking a small boat vs a big ship in a wavy sea :)
Ali Jaffery yaw is a bitch on airliners, and it almost feels like the Cessna is flying you, not you flying it. It is almost as easy as driving a car on a Cessna, whereas an airliner requires much more concentration and yaw awareness during approach
Sure, most students that have sim time before flying do pretty dang well. They know how to read and find the controls and aren’t over whelmed on the first few flights.
Hello Mr CFII. On take off roll, at what airspeed (or what point) should one begin to build back pressure to avoid the side swings that occurred on the first take off? I have been having a problem with these minor swings especially in windy conditions.
Just a CFI... CFII is an instrument instructor. I like to build back pressure little by little as the controls “come alive “ . Air is moving over the control surface as you start your takeoff roll ... try to feel it. Usually about 40 knots You should feel the controls easily. And the plane wants to fly soon after. At about 40 knots ( in a Cessna ) you should be building back pressure to the same point you hold for climb out pitch angle ... if your going further than that your wasting motion and pulling the plane off the ground and then your fixing the issue by pushing forward. When I fly I try to limit wasted motion and look for ways to minimize my control inputs in order to improve my own piloting. best of luck! If it’s real windy that’s a matter of experience and you’ll just have to learn to ride the wind.
172 you rotate at 55 level the nose until speed builds up and climb out at 75. Purchase a POH for the plane you're training in and read it. CFI's not only expect you to do a little studying on your own it will vastly cut down on the time you spend getting your license.
You do use the peddles to steer on the ground and they keep your turns coordinated in flight. On the ground depending on the aircraft design it maneuvers your front wheel and allows for breaking each main wheel independently. The peddles also moves your rudder left and right which helps in flight with keeping cordinated in turns by countering Adverse Yaw. The rudder is also super helpful when fighting a cross wind and keeping your aircraft flying straight down the center line on landing. If you were being sarcastic lol also as that’s a pretty common comment for students at around lesson 5 or so when the instructor realizes he/she hasn’t emphasized rudder use enough and the student has their feet doing nothing. If it wasn’t sarcastic good thing you caught it now some pilots never really get rudder use if they miss it in primary training they can stay “lazy” about it. It’s a Dpe pet peeve. Thanks for watching !!!
You should have enough trim that your not fighting the controls on final and can almost let go of the controls. For flare your still going to need to use a bit of muscle though. I personally don’t like trimming enough to reduce the pressure during flare as it leaves the trim set a bit funky for a go around if one is needed. You might notice that the trim for flaps up and full power on climb out is pretty much the same as for full flaps and power set to 1100 and pitching for 65 on final.
We all did it lol. Hopefully you have it down now ... don’t grab the yoke and it just goes away usually. Also don’t over think it ... the more I think about to steering the harder it is, lol.
I checked at 3:55 and didn’t see what you were commenting on ? We were at about the right speeds ( maybe a bit slow even) for both the base turn and the final turn and I didn’t hear us talking about it. I would rather be too fast than too slow in a turn so I might defend it lol. Thanks for watching and I’ll check it out again if you link a different time ... we were on the ground at 13:55 so ? Turns on the ground should be SLOW! But I didn’t see it then either.
We use the Jeppsen syllabus... and wouldn’t normally work the pattern on lesson two but weather was too low to do much else. Totally depends on how well the student is handling it. If he had trouble we would have flown around close to the airport , done some basic stuff and called it a day.
@@NEROAviation lucky student, our local flight school wouldnt let me touch a take off until lesson 5, and landing around lesson 15, Im doing the LAPL here in the UK which is 30hrs min
Not sure I can do all this ...oh just recalled. .... actually qualified some years back. Point being, it looks harder than what it is ...but you need lots of practice for the sensations to become 'normal'
I'm curious, why does he need to keep his hand on the throttle after takeoff? It makes sense you'd keep it there while still on the runway or while landing in case you need to abort, but once you just got off the ground, I can't imagine a reason why you'd need to urgently cut throttle.
I tend to keep it there until climb out is over. It has a way of backing out a little and losing a few hundred RPMS is not uncommon. For training I keep it there most of the time just to guard it from instructors doing engine out training too much.
Also add rudder as needed to keep it from drifting left as you build back pressure on the yoke. Looking outside at the pitch and edges of the runway in peripheral vision helps. Great comment thanks!
Suction cup to the top of the front window. I have a 12inch arm on my suction mount and it works well with the go pro. Just make sure you get the hands in the video ! I have deleted a lot of boring video that just shows the front panel and the view out the window.
Great instructor. Letting the student learn by talking through it. One question sir, didn't see or hear any use of the trim. I saw you using trim in part one video but not in the pattern.
I teach the student to use it to remove pressure “ when needed “ When flying the pattern like I teach you won’t need to trim much at all. The trim for level flight is much the same as it is with 40 degrees flaps and a pitch of 65 kts and power set to about 1100. It’s also the same trim setting for takeoff. It works in most planes not just 172s (granted different power and flap settings) Not trimming is common error for students but on the flip side trimming at the wrong times and then re-trimming is a common error for more advanced pilots. “Set the plane where you want it and trim off excess pressure” You should be able to let go of the yoke without seeing a big change in pitch at pretty much any point in the pattern. Thanks for mentioning trim, good point I should have had mentioned it at least a little! I’ll try to post a video on trim and patten work.
I was starting to think the same thing, but then heard him talk about trim at 8:38. It is actually helpful for the new student if the instructor trims as it relieves him of one step, which is easily taught at a later date with no lag in overall instruction. This instructor has good technique so who am I to express otherwise. This student was well above average in his second flight abilities. I thought I was superhuman when I soloed after my eighth hr of instruction. But then again I was 17 and ready to take on the world.
Man. I remember my first instructor. It was horrific. He was constantly on edge and got upset pretty quick. I endured that for about ten hours. After that I told him to look for someone else. The second instructor was much, much better. But I never had an instructor like this student. That would`ve been awesome. This instructor knows how to calm down the student and get his attention. Polite and competent. Now, and I can see that everybody here agrees, that`s how it should be.
Yeah it makes it tough to learn when your instructor is wound up. Glad you didn’t just accept it like a lot of student do. If your not clicking with your instructor then try another don’t settle if you can help it.
I actually have had a few students that don’t like how I teach/instruct, but it’s all about the student learning so I don’t take offense (to each his own.)
Thank you for the awesome comment ! I appreciate it !!!
Just looked at the student's death grip and turning the yolk as if that turns the airplane on the ground. We all were there, lovely!
Where was the egg yolk? On the yoke?
I did that, too! On my very first lesson I did the death grip with both hands in level flight at 1200ft when a sudden hearty gust of wind blew the tail upward and nosed us down a bit. That spooked me for a moment--it was actually my first time in a small plane in anything more than calm winds.
The ol’ white knuckle death grip. Three fingers is the goal.
If that was only his second flight he's doing pretty well that's a sign of a great instructor
Thanks! He did awesome !
NERO AVIATION Yes I agree, great instructor talks the student through well.
Newbies only vocabulary is, "OKAY.... Riiiight.... yup, Riiiiiiiiight. :)
Uh huh
Bobby cuz if you used more words the plane would crash due to being task saturated 😂 what you want to say is What the heck are u talking about?
When I start my lessons I’m going to say.... “if you say so!!!”
Say what??
haha steering the yoke on the ground that made my day
Awesome instructor. Very patient, and willing to let the student land "poorly" so that he can learn to do it well.
This instructor is fantastic! Calm and collective and giving all the right info
Very good flight instruction (not to mention cool headed on that last landing). Good video for anyone interested in taking flight lessons. Flying the aircraft is actually very simple. It's the very heavy multitasking that makes it challenging to the new students. But no worries, it soon becomes easier when your internal copilot (muscle memory) begins to control the aircraft, allowing you to concentrate on other important things. But yes at first it is overwhelming (airspeed, course corrections, hold altitude, bank angle, RPM's, traffic, trim, course, attitude, engine guage scan....).
I took a flight lesson in the same type aircraft. Ours had the glass panels though.
You sound like the flight instructor I wish I would of had back when I first took a couple flying lessons more years ago than I want to think about. Who knows, maybe I would have kept it up and fulfilled a dream and got my license!
Fun video! I'll keep watching, thanks!
You can still do it tho.
Do it man!!! Never too late!👍👍...I had my private pilot for 10 years, then finally got my instrument and then commercial . Best thing I could have done
. Plus o learned so much
It's never too late. Flying can be a great hobby (although expensive). Don't give up on your dreams.
My thoughts exactly! I also quit after a while (10 hrs) partially because I had a young instructor with very little patience and personality. It was over 30 years ago and it still bothers me to this day that I never went back. Now I can't afford it.
I want that instructor. What a calm and great person to learn from!
That’s one chill instructor. Mine was good, too. Miss those days!
LOL,,, Oren says, it was UGLY but I didnt touch a thing.. LOVE IT... Hes an amazing instructor. I brought him to TN twice to instruct me on my landings that I was struggling with using a local instructor..
This was amazing to watch, I love the analogies, practicality yet keeping it light hearted but serious at the same time. Perfect instructor
Great instructor and amazing landings for lesson two.
Death grip white knuckles on the yoke. Been there done that! Lol
Just did my demo ride in a 172 yesterday. Watching this is great review and prep for my next lesson. Thank you so much for sharing.
Awesome ! Have fun !!! Thanks for watching !
Although yoke input is needed while taxing in windy conditions. I would suggest having this student sit on his hands during taxing for a while. The yoke is not a steering wheel. 👍🏽
Awesome instructing buddy. You just taught this guy to land like an airliner.
I’m taking that as a complement lol .
Thanks for watching!
Wow! Second flight! More like 8th flight. Y'all are both great!
Great instructor letting you fly the plane and instructing throughout.
I love the instructor and the student.
How fun! Looking forward to Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 after watching this (getting a little too old for the real thing)
What's the update on the availability ?
i wish you still made videos like these. I'm prepping for my ppl and this is really helping me calm my nerves. its really showing me what to expect with no filters. thank you for posting this!
Hey Rosemary thank you for watching. Don’t stress you’ll do great ! Fly more and have fun.
I have 5 terabytes of video ! I just got new editing software and my braces come off next month ( so i can do voice overs again).
Ill try to get videos up on a regular basis this year ! I need to hire a editor lol.
Ill see if I cant make another landing video asap (they seem to be the most popular anyway).
Here is a list of private pilot check ride prep. I go over it a few days before my students go on their check-rides. Maybe see if you have a local “cheat sheet” or “gouge” also.
docs.google.com/file/d/1JwwTS3Ct0HreG-zxvsBfZrg_mKuWVh0r/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword
Having the student flying in the round out controlling drift and touchdown and manipulating power over a long distance is extremely helpful. I love requesting long landings on an non busy 10,000 foot runway.
Yeah the power out “plop” over and over again is not really teaching them how to land but how to time the Cessnas landing so it’s soft. Where as using power your landing the plane when you want not just when the plane quits flying.
Just be careful with the slow flight down the runway, there’s a reason the ACS says 1500 ft. I always tell my students not to do it on their own. It’s a great teaching tool though and you don’t see many instructors that even know to use it.
Sometimes I ask student to move hands from a control column during ground roll for better understanding that it is not used for directional control on the ground.
Yeah, treating the yoke like a steering wheel can be a tough habit to break.
Hmmm I'm actually gonna try that. Can't keep their hand on the throttle or focus on the pedals... So they will only get to touch those and I have the yoke for this takeoff lmfao
From all the comments below I feel like I was blessed with a great primary instructor - a young kid right out of Embry Riddle who had patience, a calm and calming demeanor,
Brian Longen, who was a fantastic instructor. My recurrent instructor is every bit as good, Dustin Showalter! I'm very lucky and wish all new pilot wannabees could be as fortunate. When I started IFR training I already knew what a good instructor is and how they should conduct themselves so when I got a complete jerk of an instructor for IFR I fired him after 1 lesson and found a good one. I never did finish IFR but I'm not dead yet so maybe it's still a possibility.
I've only set foot in a private plane once, and it was as a passenger. I felt like throwing up the entire time thanks to a *really* windy day. So as someone with effectively 0 experience flying planes, even *I* have to agree with the other commenters. He seems like a great instructor even to someone like me with no experience whatsoever! Somebody press Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, we need like, at least a hundred more of this guy!
Thank you !
I’ve just started my flying lesson.
The instructor is great 😊😊👍👍
excellent instructor, not freaking out the student.
Wow. This was beyond helpful to me. Thanks! Learning to fly and land in a sim. I successfully landed in grass without knowing how to land, took off again, then crashed trying to land on the actual run way. lol. This helped me understand how to use flaps and confirmed how fiddly this plane is. Subbed. It also gave me anxiety. :)
I get stressed all the lights off using headset in my sim at home. sims are good training tools !
Have fun and landing in sims can be harder then real life ... not enough feedback. Sims are all visual so its challenging to land.
Wow what a crazy landing! But he did it.
Fantastic instructor
What a beautiful and clean Cessna!
I like these instructors
Remember my first landing, was a bumpy weather, not a perfect center line, but it was landing you remember for all of your life.
I had an awesome instructor as this one, very calm and knows exactly what to say and what to do to make you become kickass pilot!
And the best thing he teach me is "You can always go around"! It's way better to G/A in case of something and be able to fly the bird again, just use this. Not looking good even if you are on glideslope and centerline, but your feeling is not the best, just, go around!
Great advice! “You can always go around” Student can get in the mindset that go arounds mean they are failing when in fact it shows they are in control and making good decisions. I like to see go arounds !
Thanks for watching!
My first takeoff was behind a FedEx DC10 in Memphis and my first landing on that flight was in front of a FedEx DC10. The takeoff didn’t bother me but seeing that huge plane to my left as I turned final scared the crap out of me.
Well I got nervous there for a second. For a second lesson that was good. I just love those C-172s. They are so nobile.
Yeah, C172s are pretty amazing! Forty plus years of student landings and they are still flying great!
@@NEROAviation Thanks you Nero
I like the confidence of the instructor... "That was all you!" and it wasn't down the line landing.
Being a pilot is my dream and I could learn something from your videos about flying so thanks and keep up the good work also your a great flight instructor
Thank you!
You won’t regret getting your pilots license! (Your bank account might regret it, but you won’t lol ).
I have a student that pretty much taught him self to land watching my videos. He hired me after watching all my videos over and over and surprisingly he learned a lot from them all I had to do was work on his confidence to implement it and tweak a little here and there.
Don’t use videos for learning purposes for flight it might help knowing what knots is or what altitude is if u want to learn u need to learn and be there yourself be in that seat flying that plane taking off and having an instructor
Thank you. I'm really grateful for your videos I fly at Thun and find these extremely helpful in my student endeavors!!
Good job! Great instructor!
I remember this all so well ...
It cracked me up so hard 5:10😂😂😂 But I feel you man. I feel you as a fellow CFI. I was like “nooo......pppeeee right rudder right right right...!!!!”.
Lol 😂 thanks for watching! Got a little squirrelly there for a second.
One of the best Cessna 172..
I hope my first landings on this sunday are as good as these.
I think Rob Schneider said it best ....” You can do it! “ .
Thanks for watching and best of luck ! Good landings or bad landings just have fun and fly more !
Any landing where the wheels are on the ground is a good landing! LOL
Glenn Anderson and, how did it go?
wow i would love to have a flight instructer like that he is very nice and he can fly well which means he must have a very experienced and good flight instructer
Wow! This is an excellent instructor! JA
Second flight and he's landing? Wow! I am on my 4th flight and I have been taking off but haven't landed yet. That might be coming soon though. Great instructor!
Thanks ! He struggled later don’t worry lots of bad landings in later lessons lol.
Landings are harder when you try to land. The Cessna 172 should get half the credit for most landings anyway ( the good half at that).
Thanks for watching!
Stay light on the controls and as you flare keep building back pressure until it looks like takeoff ... maybe a 1/4 or less of the runway will be visible over the cowling. As you build back pressure you also have to build right rudder pressure to keep the nose straight.
Also don’t “ try to land” just burn off the airspeed just above the ground until it sets down gently.
Now forget all that ...fly more and have fun !
Awesome video. You should be proud!
Great instructor
Fun. Thanks!
Practice.. practice.. practice!!!
If I ever take flying lessons that's going to be me wanting to (over)correct for every little bump in the air--while gripping the yoke like a vice!
Thanks for upload..good job
Good flight instructor!
I didn't get to see all the video but the instructor is very good his job.
Excellent instruction. I had a crabby old guy that made no bones about it that he was doing it because he couldn’t retire, and he made it pretty obvious he didn’t want to be there. Almost no instruction other than “rudder, watch the horizon, speed etc” I got they my solo and stopped. Wanting to get back to it.
Get your private! It’s totally worth it!
Awesome for your second flight. I just did my first and completely bombed 😂
I’m sure it wasn’t that bad... and if a student does too well I have to show them all the wrong ways anyway. Just have fun and keep at it!
Awesome I’ll check it out !
wow.. I am nervous just watching.. I can't imagine how my first flight will be... Good flying
Hopefully you’ll have a blast ! Have fun !
Great instructor!
The student was fishing on the controls because he is not into trimming the airplane. Over control is typical to a new pilot, awesome work guys!
Yeah that’s right there is no mention of trimming the airplane at any moment or through the video ! Maybe that comes with the time
Awesome.
That’s my home airfield! I’ve been doing my flight training across the way from you at Spana
Its an awesome area to learn in ! So many awesome landmarks, cool airspace , and airports all over! Say hi to Colton
I did my first landing a couple months ago, let just say I slammed the ground.
Enjoying your videos man thank you.
Everyone slams a few landings. I have had more than my fair share of hard landings. Keep at it!
My first landing was perfect, I got lucky, and my CFI made sure that there were no crosswinds at all that day. The next few were a little rough. I never spilled his coffee though.
No need for Trim? Auto trim?
Fantastic instruction. Learning a ton from listening and watching
Can't wait 'til im old enough to fly
Nice, I'm enjoying watching this video, Your CFI is really good.
Thanks ! I’m actually the CFI so lots of videos on the channel like this one!
Thank you for watching and the complement !
I NEED to fly again!
Get out and do it! I miss flying after only a few days.
Dang I hope I pick it up as easy as this kid. First flight on monday! (I've got 5 un logged hours at the controls so itll hopefully be easy)
Just have fun ! You’ll do great !
You also might listen to LiveATC.net .Radio calls are usually the hardest part for new pilots ... that or landing lol 😂. Don’t worry about it for the first flight though.
@@NEROAviation that's a great tip thanks. I'm flying out of a rather large towered airport so that will probably be helpful.
Excellent
2nd flight ? Damn that’s a good instructor!
I don’t believe it.
My instructor said that i will probably get to do my first solo in a couple months on my 16th birthday.
Awesome !
Hey I bounced that runway just last week!
Sweet! We have a new restaurant on the field now so come back anytime! I did hear a rumor that they didn’t serve breakfast though (which is my favorite fly in meal), and crazy if it’s true!
Doing take offs n landings already?
What happened to the trim?
It was set for takeoff and it’s pretty much the same for the rest of the pattern. Once you climb to pattern altitude and level off with2300- 2000 rpm and the plane slows to 90-80 the trim won’t be needed. Then when you reduce to 1500 and add 10 degrees of flaps and pitch down to hold 90-80 it will stabilize and you won’t need trim. It works all the way through the pattern with the takeoff trim setting.
Give the aircraft time to settle after making your changes and then trim off any pressure. Don’t trim before changing power of flaps or while turning and let it adjust for a 5 count after making all your changes.
Also don’t fist 👊🏻 the yoke ... hard to feel the pressure. Have a light grip or just use finger pressure.
Oh man, reminded me of my first time taking off. Cool instructor!
Good job 👌, My instructor was yelling at me on my first landing 🤦♂️
I don’t expect it could have been too bad. First landings are always fun!
Nice video. Thank you. Notice that the PUT has his index finger over the throttle friction nut. I am a novice but found I had this problem where the friction nut kept tightening. Eventually figured it out. Now try to keep my finger against but never over the nut. Thanks again.
Thanks ! I usually teach putting a finger on the throttle friction lock so I’ll keep an eye/add a warning in the future.
Is it just me, or does anyone else think it's easier to fly an airliner like a 777 or A380 versus the GA planes like the Cessna 172?
I have never flown a jet ... but I have sat in the cockpit of a few. As soon as I sat down and looked at all the dang buttons flying jets seemed pretty complicated.
Nope jets are more complicated
@@NEROAviation I've flown both, and a jet with a HUD is incredibly easy to land. When I went from jets to GA, it was like stepping into a different world. Like anything else, you get used to it and then it becomes second nature.
Bigger planes look more stable during flight. That is due to size and much higher landing speed. The controls are much less responsive, and you have much less margin for error when landing airliners. You have to anticipate and always start correcting in advance.
Smaller GA planes, look bumpy and feel like they are about to go out of control. But in fact, they self correct, much easier to steer, have much larger margin for error during approach.
Think it as docking a small boat vs a big ship in a wavy sea :)
Ali Jaffery yaw is a bitch on airliners, and it almost feels like the Cessna is flying you, not you flying it. It is almost as easy as driving a car on a Cessna, whereas an airliner requires much more concentration and yaw awareness during approach
Can i do the same in simulador ?
Sure, most students that have sim time before flying do pretty dang well. They know how to read and find the controls and aren’t over whelmed on the first few flights.
Don't worry about messing up your radio calls, I do it every so often too as a newish private pilot. Just make sure you correct yourself.
Kaimine08 same
Same i just stop with that transmission and start again from the beginning.
Awesome
Hello Mr CFII. On take off roll, at what airspeed (or what point) should one begin to build back pressure to avoid the side swings that occurred on the first take off? I have been having a problem with these minor swings especially in windy conditions.
Just a CFI... CFII is an instrument instructor.
I like to build back pressure little by little as the controls “come alive “ . Air is moving over the control surface as you start your takeoff roll ... try to feel it.
Usually about 40 knots You should feel the controls easily. And the plane wants to fly soon after. At about 40 knots ( in a Cessna ) you should be building back pressure to the same point you hold for climb out pitch angle ... if your going further than that your wasting motion and pulling the plane off the ground and then your fixing the issue by pushing forward.
When I fly I try to limit
wasted motion and look for ways to minimize my control inputs in order to improve my own piloting.
best of luck!
If it’s real windy that’s a matter of experience and you’ll just have to learn to ride the wind.
172 you rotate at 55 level the nose until speed builds up and climb out at 75.
Purchase a POH for the plane you're training in and read it. CFI's not only expect you to do a little studying on your own it will vastly cut down on the time you spend getting your license.
for a cessna 172, about 55 knots
I thought you used the pedals for the rudder to steer on the runway?
You do use the peddles to steer on the ground and they keep your turns coordinated in flight.
On the ground depending on the aircraft design it maneuvers your front wheel and allows for breaking each main wheel independently. The peddles also moves your rudder left and right which helps in flight with keeping cordinated in turns by countering Adverse Yaw. The rudder is also super helpful when fighting a cross wind and keeping your aircraft flying straight down the center line on landing.
If you were being sarcastic lol also as that’s a pretty common comment for students at around lesson 5 or so when the instructor realizes he/she hasn’t emphasized rudder use enough and the student has their feet doing nothing. If it wasn’t sarcastic good thing you caught it now some pilots never really get rudder use if they miss it in primary training they can stay “lazy” about it. It’s a Dpe pet peeve.
Thanks for watching !!!
awesome instructor! my landing wouldve been much worse lol
How much trim is needed for landing?
You should have enough trim that your not fighting the controls on final and can almost let go of the controls.
For flare your still going to need to use a bit of muscle though. I personally don’t like trimming enough to reduce the pressure during flare as it leaves the trim set a bit funky for a go around if one is needed.
You might notice that the trim for flaps up and full power on climb out is pretty much the same as for full flaps and power set to 1100 and pitching for 65 on final.
I have 4 hrs and i am steering the yoke while taxiing . My CFI is working with me to break that habit.
We all did it lol. Hopefully you have it down now ... don’t grab the yoke and it just goes away usually. Also don’t over think it ... the more I think about to steering the harder it is, lol.
Thanks for watching !
You’ll be soloing in another 20hrs or so ! Crazy how much you learn ! Have fun !
Is it just me or were they defending very fast in that 30 degree turn at 3:55
I checked at 3:55 and didn’t see what you were commenting on ?
We were at about the right speeds ( maybe a bit slow even) for both the base turn and the final turn and I didn’t hear us talking about it.
I would rather be too fast than too slow in a turn so I might defend it lol.
Thanks for watching and I’ll check it out again if you link a different time ... we were on the ground at 13:55 so ? Turns on the ground should be SLOW! But I didn’t see it then either.
taking off and landing on lesson 2 ???
We use the Jeppsen syllabus... and wouldn’t normally work the pattern on lesson two but weather was too low to do much else. Totally depends on how well the student is handling it. If he had trouble we would have flown around close to the airport , done some basic stuff and called it a day.
@@NEROAviation lucky student, our local flight school wouldnt let me touch a take off until lesson 5, and landing around lesson 15, Im doing the LAPL here in the UK which is 30hrs min
Where is the school located?
KPLU . South of Seattle Wa (about 30 miles ).
Not sure I can do all this ...oh just recalled. .... actually qualified some years back. Point being, it looks harder than what it is ...but you need lots of practice for the sensations to become 'normal'
Good advice !
“Have fun & fly more “ is pretty much all I usually say for a debrief. It’s amazing how much students learn in less than 100 hrs!
that was awesome
I'm curious, why does he need to keep his hand on the throttle after takeoff? It makes sense you'd keep it there while still on the runway or while landing in case you need to abort, but once you just got off the ground, I can't imagine a reason why you'd need to urgently cut throttle.
I tend to keep it there until climb out is over. It has a way of backing out a little and losing a few hundred RPMS is not uncommon. For training I keep it there most of the time just to guard it from instructors doing engine out training too much.
thanks!
Even I felt the pressure on the take off
On the flair When you say hold it there you mean the yoke needs to slowly be pulled back in order to compensate for the loss of air speed. Thanks
Yep talking about the pitch attitude of the aircraft.
Also add rudder as needed to keep it from drifting left as you build back pressure on the yoke.
Looking outside at the pitch and edges of the runway in peripheral vision helps.
Great comment thanks!
Full stop was I was thinking too lol
Great video! Just wondering how you hook you hook up your GoPro, do you stick it on a mount then tape it to the ceiling of the plane?
Suction cup to the top of the front window. I have a 12inch arm on my suction mount and it works well with the go pro. Just make sure you get the hands in the video ! I have deleted a lot of boring video that just shows the front panel and the view out the window.
Great instructor. Letting the student learn by talking through it. One question sir, didn't see or hear any use of the trim. I saw you using trim in part one video but not in the pattern.
I teach the student to use it to remove pressure “ when needed “ When flying the pattern like I teach you won’t need to trim much at all.
The trim for level flight is much the same as it is with 40 degrees flaps and a pitch of 65 kts and power set to about 1100. It’s also the same trim setting for takeoff. It works in most planes not just 172s (granted different power and flap settings)
Not trimming is common error for students but on the flip side trimming at the wrong times and then re-trimming is a common error for more advanced pilots.
“Set the plane where you want it and trim off excess pressure” You should be able to let go of the yoke without seeing a big change in pitch at pretty much any point in the pattern.
Thanks for mentioning trim, good point I should have had mentioned it at least a little! I’ll try to post a video on trim and patten work.
I was starting to think the same thing, but then heard him talk about trim at 8:38. It is actually helpful for the new student if the instructor trims as it relieves him of one step, which is easily taught at a later date with no lag in overall instruction. This instructor has good technique so who am I to express otherwise. This student was well above average in his second flight abilities. I thought I was superhuman when I soloed after my eighth hr of instruction. But then again I was 17 and ready to take on the world.