Music score editions & my little music library
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2022
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Some recommendadtions:
- Henle: always Urtext, editions with and without fingerings, very readable
- Breitkopf: most of the time Urtext, sadly no preface, best (and only truly good) editions for page-turning
- Bärenreiter: good for piano concertos especially, always Urtext, not the best paper quality but perfectly fine
- Editio Budapest: good for Liszt
- Edition Peters: most of the time not urtext but editions by famous pianists (which is good for comparisons), they manage to print a lot of music into one book
- Schirmer: actually white pages!!!, sadly not too much variety
- Schott: good for more contemporary music, their suggestions at the end of the books are also fantastic bc they have some very obscure unknown music printed
I'd add this: Italian editions (Ricordi, Curci...) are usually... how can I say... odd, somewhat bizarre. Note fonts are average, page turns well it depends, can be good or horrible. Generally they have quite bad reputation and I must admit it's generally deserved. Nevertheless one can get some interesting idea for interpretation there. For example, Casella's revision of Bach's suites it's far from philological but it contains good indications for the student.
Ah, you left out Wiener Urtext and Universal edition. And Busoni breitkopf
@@danielandforok Breitkopf Bach (edited by Busoni)
@Claude-Achille Debussy I am surprised you dont like Busoni.(but still he gave his opinion about Bach, which we may or may not agree with).... What about Mullgelini edition of Bach 48?
@@lorenzomorgoni524 Ricordi and Curci has Casella as editors, and some other older masters..... surprised you find their edition ODD.....
Happy Mother’s Day by the way 😜❤️ which are your favorite editions to work with and why? Tell me in the comments!😊
I like schimers edition.
I don’t know if that’s how you spell it though
I don't know if you've already made a video for the play la campanella by litzt, if not, could you please make one for this 1 min 10 min 1h challenge
In my opinion Henle is the best one. Bärenreiter, Breitkopf and Peter's are also very good. Ciao! Tommaso
I mostly have Edition Peters, they are well sized and spaced and laid out well for timing page turns (which I didn't realise until I tried the same piece out of a "collection of" book where the page turns were all mid-phrase)
I want to get WTK Book 1 but I think I'll get the Henle version as it seems the most well put together book.
I am a champion for Wiener Urtext, first of all I love the signature of the composer and the color, it has some of the more interesting fingerings, usually unconventional- and has some of the best research!
Wiener Urtext followed shortly by Henle. Just noticed recently, that Wiener Urtext bindings are just perfect in my opinion. You get a new book, open it, and it stays open just perfect. I mean even with big books like one of the Beethoven Sonatas. Also the Cover is really good. Noticed that after I had a Peters edition where the cover didn't liked to be put in my backpack. It is not horrible, but just inconvinient.
I also enjoy all the explanaition in the Wiener Urtext, and I enjoy the cover.
Henle is in all this points just a little bit less good. Not much, I really like to work with Henle, but I enjoy Wiener Urtext more.
On thing I think is interesting about Henle is the difficulty score you get. Since it is also online I always will look it up, and after learning a piece, check if it was really easier/harder. I am sure there are also many other ways to judge the difficulty, but I am now familiar with Henle, and they have judged many pieces, so I go for it.
Annique:
When the printing is too small, like the Ossia, photocopy it at 150% or so then cut and paste (by hand) to make a bigger score.
If the section is not long of course.
Also, I get most of my music spiral bound. Not sure about Germany but most small print shops do this cheaply. It’s so much easier to play from lie-flat scores.
Thanks for showing how is being a classical musician. As someone who likes classic music but is not a professional player (not even a good one) it's a very interesting content.
May you make a video showing what kind of things you write in your scores? I am curious about the notes you write in the challenge videos.
just to give you an idea they usually are fingering things
I love your passion your knowledge and experience 🎹🎶👍
Glad to see you mark your scores up. I usually try not to, but then some passage will force me to put fingerings in there a little bit, then I see that it would be much easier to remember if I did a harmonic analysis, then I end up putting the rest of the difficult fingerings in, then I practice some more and see better ways to do the harmonic analysis. Which brings me to my main point, a good mechanical pencil with an eraser that actually works is really helpful if you’re going to mark up a score. They also write thinner than a standard No. 2 pencil.
j adore tes video tu joue tellement bien continue et merci pour cette video
Super Brava e Simpatica 😍😍😍❤️
I was at a monthly piano meet up this morning which is hosted by the music shop in town.
Afterwards I was stood in front of the shelves of sheet music wondering this exact thing.
I wanted to buy Book one of the WTK but there were maybe 20 different editions ranging from £7 to £25.
I've got a few Edition Peters, not intentionally, in the past and they are quite clear and well printed and laid out. I also got a Schimer book of McFarren excerises which is ok, but quite basic.
I think I'll go for Henle with fingerings.
Urtext es la que más uso, pero como tú dices, me gusta comparar ediciones para tener más alternativas de fraseo, articulaciones, digitaciones, etc.
Saludos y buena práctica. 😉
Hi this is really helpful!
Just subscribed, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
Henle rocks. I love everything I have from them.
Loved this, I'm very interested in Sheet music and yes I buy a lot of it and the Henle scores are my favourite but Bärenreiter, Schott and Breitkopf also make excellent ones.
Delightful!
I really love watching your videos and your playing of course is top-notch and so thoughtful ! How many concerti do you have in your repertoire and how do you decide on learning a new piece like the Moskowsky concerti which one rarely gets to program.
I mostly use Alfred Editions, which are published in the United States. Many of them are edited carefully and, most of the time, they are based on the composer's original intentions. Editorial work is always shown in a different color (light grey), so that you know that it's coming from an editor. I also use Schirmer editions. Some of them are good and some of them have a lot of additional accidentals and things which are not necessary. It really depends on what you are playing. For Chopin, I like the Paderewski edition because of the note size and the clean pages.
3:48 Wow, a Soviet score of Mozart's 13 piano concerto (probably from IMSLP mentioned above)
Please make a video on which publisher is generally best or recommended for which composer!
Can you play The Lark by Glinka for a 1 minute, 10 minute, 1 hour challenge?
Love that peice
henle' editions are definitely my no.1 choice 🤩 The only thing bad is sooooo freaking expensiveeee
It would be very good if you made a video on how to read music score or tips on reading music score, like a very basic video.
I love Henle Editions!!
Thank you for the imslp info! I am just about to start looking for online resources, as I don't have a sheet music shop nearby (and you don't always know what you get when ordering a book online).
I like mostly Henle. Peters for Mozart concertos. Paderewski for Chopin. On IMSLP, I usually will print off the Breitkopf and Hartel edition :)
One of the most elusive editions (i only read the abridged versions) of Beethoven's 32, is the edition by Russian Goldenveizer.
Usually, I buy Schirmer Editions, because Henle is expensive to me, but i have been thinking about starting to buy Henle, editions because ik the Urtext is what i would love to have. ~🥖
Can you make a video about the additional annotations and markings pianists usually do in their scores? Apart from the obvious like fingerings for example
Personnellement je privilégie les éditions bien imprimées, lisibles, et surtout avec les doigtés. J'achète surtout du Henlé, mais pas que.
Je télécharge aussi beaucoup à partir de la bibliothèque de Musescore (payant mais pas très cher). De temps en temps IMSP bien-sûr.
I am a complete noob with piano playing and I have a few books. Most of them are henle editions because the notes are big and I like that all my scores are written in the same style. In my Chopin Henle books there are quite a lot of comments and dynamics, whereas in my Bach's two-part inventions from Henle, there is literally none. Not that I care too much as an amateur, but you can see that these Henle editions only put in stuff that is historically accurate
Also, I just like having these henle books because I like collecting the music I love. Henle is all round praised and the books have clean looks, which is reason enough for me to just go for them
Henle is great, but I really recommend avoiding their editions with fingerings. They get famous professional pianists to do them, which is great, but I personally almost always disagree with them and most of the time they're more irritating than helpful. best thing about Henle is of course that you will always get Urtext and at least a preface. The all-around best publisher might be Breitkopf, but they pretty much never include any Bemerkungen or a preface.
@@pianobern69 thanks for your comment. Henle fingerings are indeed sometimes very obnoxious!!! I also talk about it with my teacher sometimes and he says the same thing. For amateurs it wouldn't change a lot, but for professionals these weird fingerings will make the music sound a bit more crispy. Pure min-maxing basically yeah
In my country we use a lot of Ricordi (originally an Italian publisher, I think)
Here in Brazil, and specifically in my region (the state of Pernambuco), we practically have no access to original editions of sheet music. This is due to the high prices and the scarce availability. Sheet music is not sold in bookstores, and I only know of one national website that sells them. Almost everyone here uses photocopies or homemade prints. Those who have original editions practically don't use them, given their high cost. I took a bookbinding course, and I print and bind my own editions. I have also been doing it for some of my friends.
interesting you mentioned the Kalkbrenner so often lul cause that concerto was the way i found this channel in the first place (id call myself a Kalkbrenner simp tbh... a lot of his stuff (esp. the early year to mid-year pieces) is really cool hehe)
finally a classical musician ive seen pronouncing all the composers name right
Henle urtext are one of my favourites go to. I’m still within Grade6-7, but I’d always like to browse through henle books
It totally depends on the composer. For Chopin, it’s best to get both the Polish Ekier’s and Cortot’s.
Where did you get the boxes/crates to hold your scores? I would love to get something that fits them so snugly!
I personally like to look at Henle scores' previews and engrave them myself on a notation software, but not always. Just for the ones that look crazy to the eyes…
You can play Rach III, Ossia? Wow!
IMSLP and similar resources only, but for me this is enough.
In the Ossia, they have to make it extra difficult, so it's not enough that it's difficult to play, it has to be difficult to read too!
Sa fait toujours plaisir de vous voir 😃
watching while my tuner is here tuning my piano 😆
I’m curious what edition you use for Chopin etudes. It looks like you use Ekier, but I wonder if you also use any other editions (I also find Cortot’s editions useful, for the exercises and the fingerings).
I also prefer Ekier (second Polish) than the Paderewski (first Polish) edition.
Echt schönes und interessantes Video! 👍 Ich habe bislang nur Noten von Henle und Schott. 😊
I've bought every edition under the sun...but for me the best were "Dover"(probably out of business)...they were ridiculously affordable and have held up well...have you tried downloading on an I pad?...its a great way to magnify the music if you need to.
Dover is still very much in business, and still maintaining an impressively deep catalog of mostly-off-copyright editions by some of the best editors.
How long is your new Boston piano, and did you feel a difference switching from the C2 you had?
Henle and baerenreiter are the best!
Henle and then Schirmer as a close second. I love Henle but I wish their covers were a little more durable. Probably so they can sell the plastic cases. Ah, well... Henle is still top. But Schimmer Performance Editions are also fantastic. Alfreds is highly recommended.
Is it Debussy in the background? One of the preludes? It sounds familiar… Great video and sending love from the Vadstena academy in Sweden!
It’s a few pieces out of his childrens corner! :)
The first piece
Doctor gradus and parnassum is the name of the piece
☺🤗 buenos dias...
❤️🔥
Debussy gradus ad parnassum in the background 😃😃
Any reason for not using apps for the scores?
I think you have a future in music 🌞
Have you done chopins nocturne in E flat major (1min, 10min, 1hour?)
Henle, Barenreiter or Peters (only the urtext ones) for most repertoire, choice depending on most recent scholarship.
Chopin: Chopin National Edition
Beethoven Sonatas: ABRSM
Other than that, Wiener Urtext.
Peter's Arrau Beethoven edition (while not an urtext) is certainly a MUST USE and to be use alongside with the great Schnabel edition.
I wish I knew about IMSLP before creating 3 Musescore accounts and cancelling before the trial expired
Are you going to do the Unravel song?
Can you please do "Liebestraum No. 3" by Franz Liszt (1min, 10min, 1h Challenge)
Are your scores sorted chronologically?
For me the best is Henle!
You remind me of Jessica Biel if she was half Filipino 😍
Which Czerny exercises would you recommend for an advanced piano player?
I can play the 1st Chopin Ballade and Skrjabin 8/12 pretty well but I always skipped finger exercises hahahah
Warte warum schreibe ich auf englisch lol egal
Bin halt etwas verwirrt weil es so viele Versionen gibt (op. 800 oder so)
I’d recommend his Op. 299, Op. 636, then Op. 740 in that order. It gets progressively harder and you should play through 299 and 636 in preparation for the Art of Finger Dexterity. Careful when playing through them, not to injure yourself. (Speaking from experience T-T)
Can you play Liszt transcendental etude no. 12 in a challenge?
When I was a kid (1950s, 1960s) there was no online buying. So you bought what waa available at the music store. I don't like the Schirmer editions, but I am familiar with them. I learned too much Mozart, Beethoven, etc. with those editions. Is it worth the extra expense for me to buy the Henle editions?
Schirmer Mozart is terrible, but Schirmer Beethoven (Bulow) is great. There are Schirmer Beethoven concertoes which is excellent too.
Oh, yes, Schirmer Ravel is edited by great Gaby Cassedeus.
@@user-jj8kg5ef2t I guess I'll order the Henle edition of Mozart today. Beethoven and Brahms still cause too much pain and weakness in the right hand. My hand has survived nearly one year of mostly Mozart after 16 years away from the piano due to the hand injury. I'm working on 7 Mozart sonatas with the Schirmer edition, which I decided to use only because it was already so familiar to me in past decades.
holly crap! did you see how worn those beethoven sonatas were? She must have worked reallllly hard on those. I think i'm going to think twice before i get one of those. unless it's opus 49.
Can you play Chopin etude op 25 no. 5 “wrong note”? For the 1 minute, 10 minute and 1 hour challenge.
She's already played it so it wouldn't be new to her
During the last years I stopped completely playing from printed scores. I prefer so much playing from the Tablet, no longer forgotten or aging scores who fall apart…
What concerto did she say she played that she didn't find the scores?
I like Schott's Wiener Urtext editions as much as I like Henle.
Henle Verlag.👍
Hallo Annique, ich hätte eine Idee für deine 1 min. 10 min. 1 std. Videos, den Radetzky Marsch
played love dream? if not, can you shoot the challenge in 1 minute 10 minutes 1 hour?
Can you please play moonlight sonata 1st movement by beethoven witj 1min 10min 1hour challange?
Important to me:
The binding must lay open easily, and flat. Perfect binding is a disaster, as the glue holds individual pages to face each other, forcing you to forever bend or crease the pages ineffectually every time you use the book, until the glue breaks. Soon after that (a years-long process) the pages just fall out of the book or the whole book breaks in half, really annoying when you're carrying it within a stack of other books. Sewn is better than staples, but neither last forever. Nothing does. (I know because I'm forever years old.)
I dislike scores that place notes on the opposite staff/clef for no good reason, perhaps just to avoid a few ledger lines. It makes it harder to read. Schirmer is the biggest offender of this infraction, and the binding issue too.
Some room between notes and staves for my own annotations and fingerings is unnoticed when it's there, frustrating when it isn't. I do prefer scores that are sensitive to page turns' location and quantity, but it's a balance. A quick scan before purchase can reveal how much care was taken over everything else by this one thing. Is this really a score for practical use? Also, conventional size is better than extra large pages, as it's harder to turn pages quickly and it messes up the bookshelf if it fits at all.
I like books to have a really good table of contents. The kind with a fragment of music are the easiest to use, and the kind with a list of opus numbers and no keys are the hardest.
Я русская, хоть ничего не понимаю, но очень интересно
a little surprise..... i thought you would go into details like, for bach, what editions you recommend, for Haydn, for Beethoven etc.....
And, i am a little surprise when you show your Rach-3, you seems to mark more note (eg C, E F etc) rather than fingerings...... just an observation.
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Just as long as the scores aren't Kalmus editions... 😝
I bet all of those books cost so expensive 😭
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You didn't say anything about fingerings, did you?
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Hey stalker, I just played the piano after my taper.
Liebestraum 1 min 10 min 1 hr???
Schirmer editions are pretty poor. Especially Bach. Cheap though. Henle is the way to go.
Schirmer Bach 48 is edited by Czerny.
@@user-jj8kg5ef2t Czerny's editions (for Beethoven sonatas) are... Well, garbage. I don't want to be harsh. But they contain serious issues regarding authenticity. He put out multiple editions of the same sonatas that conflict. With no word as to which should be used. This is discussed in detail by Norduin. Czerny is a good resource dont get me wrong. But he has to be taken with a grain of salt as it is likely he made decisions to gain popularity. Not made decisions because "thats what beethoven did."
@@MegaMech Oops, that is my point..... While not TOTALLY reliable, it is nonetheless, Czerny's opinion, and i think he is certainly representative of that period, a little after beethoven, a little before Mendelssohn..... and i dont think we can question he is a landmark in pianism.
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I love your videos! However, I don't think it's very tasteful to ask for a "thumbs up and subscribe" every time. I feel like people will do that regardless of you asking in every video... :)
I couldn’t even bare looking at those scores! Too small
@Heart of the Keys You really must wear shoes during your videos because it is disrespectful otherwise. Thank you.
Wearing your shoes in the house is disgusting, spreading the outside filth inside your home.