Everything Wrong With Back To The Future Part III
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2020
- Ever since we sinned the first two... many of you have been demanding we sin the third and final Back to the Future movie, Back to the Future III.
And it's a pandemic, and no new movies have been released in a while, and we are looking for things to sin so we thought... hey, why not appease that group of folks clamoring for the sins of Back to the Future III?
So we did it. Sue us.
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11:47 Marty: "Great Scott!"
Doc: "I know, this is heavy"
That should have been worth a sin off.
Role reversal is always worth a minus sin.
I still laugh at it every time
It was pretty unoriginal if you ask me
@@danbam3411 We're not
And stop being so "Judgey!"
@@METVWETVyawn still unoriginal
Marty: “Listen, you got a back door to this place?”
Bartender: “Yeah, it’s in the back.”
One of the best lines in cinematic history
Always loved that line lol
What about,
principle Rooney "what's the score?"
Bartender "nothing to nothing."
Rooney "who's winning?"
Bartender "the bears."
Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Not the BEST but yea
M U 😂
Nah, the best line is in 'Police Squad'.
"Hey, who are you, and how did you get in here?"
"I'm a locksmith, and I'm a locksmith".
Tbh, the repeated scenes are part of the charm of these movies! I don't care if it doesn't make sense, I love every minute!
Proof you could brake the rules as long as it works
Exactly. This channel became WAF.
I love how that train didn't stop after plowing a DeLorean. Truly the conductor must have known he was in a movie and that it was okay to break protocol!
You can't just stop a train, even if an accident happens, it's too dangerous to slow down and takes too much time.
@@Xurreal Oh I didn't know that lol
@@moonwalkerkop4479 it's actually US law.
But then we never see a hint of that anywhere surrounding this event either, so I guess everyone musta thought they were in a movie too. I mean, at least one scavenger or nosy Nancy or random crazy person or railway engineer should be to the collision point by the time Marty makes it back to the Doc's arrival.
No matter how I try not to, I keep finding more sins. Help me!
@@Xurreal Biggest sin: The guitar Marty uses in BTTF 1 wasn't invented until '58.
@@moonwalkerkop4479 ooo damn that's a good one!
The thing that is its own ancestor, like Fry is his own grandfather.
Producers: 2
Paradoxes: 0
Love the irony of this channel giving out sins for recurring jokes.
Ex Machina
seeing how many videos get sins for the same old cliche' of opening credits...
That's racist
And now they have a logo!!!
I like these vids and most of the jokes, but I hate that he makes a joke and sins the movie because of it. It isn't really the movie sinning, it is just him making a joke based on what is happening in the movie.
"This franchise is 67% Marty yelling over the sound of loud noises"
Jeremy nailed it with that one.
*insert obligatory "you again" or "why are you everywhere" comment*
Oh you. You, with your unfunny comments. You, manipulating the algorithm to get likes and subs.
just a random fat cop from gta 4 in real life they’re unfunny to YOU. Many people find their comments funny and actually enjoy seeing him and his other
@@doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802 Can you tell me how I can manipulate it to get more likes Thx for answer :P
@@itriggerpeople4433 You forgot the, "We meet again," comment.
4:37 He can't send Marty back the same day or two weeks earlier because then the letter wouldn't get written and they wouldn't find the DeLorean and the grave.
They would still have the letter it would just become blank
@@ilovecowsyupyupyup No, because the letter would never be sent.
The letter would be blank just like the picture in the fire movie or the fax in this one
@@ilovecowsyupyupyup Marty would have disappeared cause doc never sent the letter and Marty’d have never found the car
@@Tony-je8fs this is the problem with time travel in movies
Clara knew where they were going to be based on the map that she found in Doc's blacksmith shop.
He indicated in the model the area in which they were going to be working.
That's how in the hell Clara knew where to go.
Yeah! Makes sense
Yeah he labeled the abandoned silver mine
Well said
Thank you, some else who gets it.
Seriously, whoever writes these sin videos is a fucking idiot.
Tannen family teachings: 'when you grow up, you'll look for a guy named McFly and bully him til his death'
I know right lmao. Sucks to be on the McFly side, I mean dam bullied for 130 years that we know of.
Marty Mcfly to the rescue
But why? It was "Clint Eastwood" who bested Buford
Ariel Gershon and yet, 70 to 100 years later, they still hated the McFlys
Remember that Tannen was looking for Seamus in that first scene at the saloon.
Not usually a big fan of callbacks in movies but callbacks are literally the thread that knits this trilogy together. It's part of the whole charm.
bro the repeating cliches are one of my favorite things about bttf its absolutely iconic I love it so much
It is. No one ever complained about the same running gags in Star Wars or Indy.
By the third one they got incredibly boring and tiresome
I really appreciate Cinemasins attempt at trying to acknowledge sin 192 with timeline inconsistencies. But I love this series too much to even try and solve that 😂
Yeah, my solution was to gasp, stand up, and point at the screen saying, "Shut up! You're ruining the movie!"
16:10 - 16:29 - I can answer Jeremy's question here, the 2015 middle-aged Marty in Bttf 2 only existed from the way the time-line was laid out at that particular point. Marty at that point had returned from his experience in 1955 but had not yet learned the consequences of the drag race with Needles. While in 2015, Jennifer had just heard the story for the first time and Marty knew nothing of it yet.. So without Marty at that juncture knowing the outcome of the drag race with Needles and no Jennifer warning him about it, he raced Needles, smashed into the Rolls Royse, got sued and lost, permanently crippled his hand so he couldn't make a career with his guitar music, and ended up at a dead-end career getting bullied by co-worker Needles while knowing that Marty gives in easily to what Needles wants just like he did in the drag race in 1985, and then Marty gave in to him again in 2015 when pushing him to break company rules, thus getting him fired and disrupting his life even further. But now after the events of Bttf 3, Jennifer and Marty know better, he refuses to race Needles, and the unfortunate chain of events that followed no longer happen, and the turmoiled middle-aged 2015 Marty we saw will no longer exist. Now that Marty's decisions have changed, we leave Bttf 3 no longer knowing where Marty will be in 2015. It's basically up to us to figure out for ourselves, he could've now become a successful musician, or his life could've fallen into ruins in some other way, we'll never know.
@@iceyplayz3388 yeah, Jeremy is sometimes funny, sometimes he makes good points, but other times he talks too much, and sometimes he's wrong about what he said. He didn't know the answer to a question many of us viewers I'm sure already know, see my above reply.
Paradox: After old Biff returned to 1955 Marty and Doc cannot travel to the 1985 that Biff made: They no longer exist. Doc goes to an asylum and the DeLorean time machine is never created. This negates both the initial accidental trip to 1955 and all subsequent time travel. This includes old Biff's trip from 2015.
The fact that it took almost 5 years to complete the EWW BTTF trilogy and that it took a global pandemic to slow the release of new content to sin is in indeed a sin.
David Erato I’m sitting here like. Holy shit this is new
My phone says u commented this 2 hours ago...
@@jacobspeck mine too
David Erato how did you comment this 2 hours ago if this Video came out 7 minutes ago
It says 2 hours ago because patreon members get early access.
So glad the people who own the rights to Back to the Future aren't letting anyone make a sequel.
It's something Hollywood doesn't seem to understand.
The sequel was a Taletell adventure game. it was pretty good.
AncapFTW There were also comics (which I think are still in production) and an animated series.
Some director actually told Zemeckis they were thinking about shooting a remake. And Zemeckis replied “over my dead body”. Smart decision
AncapFTW TellTale Games did a Back to the Future game?!
@@thecatfather857 I think it was them. I know there's a BTTF adventure game. I played the first two episodes of it. I think there are 4.
The cowboys in the saloon were 60s western actors.
And the cemetery didn't stop existing, the headstone disappeared.
I think he missed the little boy at 17:16 Trying to tell someone that he needs to pee. Because I think He Would have counted a sin for that
What is he doing. I really don't know he does a come here gesture and points to his crotch or scratches himself...
@@SonographicTendencies That is exactly what he's doing. Look at his face in the scene. He really has to go.
Don’t take this joke serious:
It’s hard to miss the bomb “Little Boy” that destroyed Hiroshima!
Can never unsee that after someone told me about it years ago
@@sorphin He's trying to be funny
"they severely underestimated the boredom of people in 2020"
well he's not wrong
I'd be less bored with a flying car that can run on 3 items of trash.
@@thomaslane1547 Especially in California. Trash is A LOT cheaper than gasoline.
Even if you pointed out a million sins and plot holes I'd still absolutely love those movies.
It’s funny to see people argue about the timeline of all of this when really we can all agree it’s extremely confusing
You're really gonna sin the waking up scene? That's one of the best cliche's of this series
His sins aren’t serious
@@fart648 I know. I'm just playing along
Phoenix 24 ok
@@fart648 haha you let him off lightly there bud
It's cinemasins......
2:49 - Also, Japanese products _were_ cheap shit in the 50s, whereas the 80s were when Sony blew up and Japanese stuff was awesome. This joke works perfectly fine.
Certainly. And he is referring to Japanese PRODUCTS, not Japanese native people or heritage... so no racist context.
@@ohc1492 TIL everyone who had a Hyundai in the 80s is racist against Koreans.
Now japan is known for anime :(
Wtf happened japan?
Hello World - Anime that is a lot better than what the US animation industry is putting out, that’s for damn sure.
Additionally, Japanese brands in electronics and automobiles are still household names. There’s just more competition than there used to be.
It’s also post WW2 bias.
I love how he sins the fact that mad dog didn't go for a headshot but at this time and even still in today's world headshots were known to not be effective but shots to the chest with a revolver or other rifle were known very well to be effective and it was common place in duels to shoot at the chest because it takes very little time and effort to just draw your pistol and nail a full sized man in his chest as in a duel you need to be fast
Also missed foreshadowing from part 2, where the western playing in background shows Clint Eastwood pulling off the same stunt
The part where you asked "did she just ride around hoping to find them and luck out" about Clara, that's easily explained. She went to Doc's shop and saw the planning diorama. Remember, it had geographic locations marked out and such, ergo she'd know where they will be. At least, she knew the general area and when she arrived at the tracks and saw the abandoned cars she knew they had the engine then heard the steam whistle and followed that.
No joke was made about the kid who was pointing to the camera that he needed to pee... bummer
fr
Verne motioning that way, was to get the camera man to move in closer to the shot.
Don’t think it was about having to pee. There have been jokes for years about it being something pervy.
The Giz
Yeah, which is why he immediately points to his crotch.
So damn strange man haha wtf
5:06 Doc knew the cave was there. He chose this area so Marty would have a place to store the time machine.
He’s manipulating the scene again. Padding the sin count bro.
Doc even says "there's a cave (such and such distance) away from where we are that would be a good place to hide the DeLorean" (paraphrasing)
We all know that, but the sins aren't really worth anything
The cave should contain the DeLorean Doc had there in 1885. Marty should have found it there amd now there should be two DeLoreans in 1885.
Here's another sin: What are the odds that the bear didn't tamper with the Delorean while it stayed parked in its cave? Not to mention, how did they retrieve the car without any trouble from the bear?
Especially considering the DeLorean was leaking gasoline everywhere and apparently bears are attracted to the smell.
Different cave. The one with the DeLorean was part of an abandoned mine.
@@iczorro He means the little cave that Marty temporarily hid in when escaping the Indians. The one that had the bear inside.
@@iczorro also shouldn't the DeLorean still be in the cave where doc hid it? So there should be 2 time machines.
two things have always bothered me about this movie
1. Doc passed out and Marty took him home, he had no time to find the pieces of the letter, much less put them together again
2. Once 1955's doc sees his own grave, he must keep that information for when he becomes 1985's Doc and (as he himself said it) pay the 80 dollars and avoid death.
oh, and Clara, she bothers me too
Pieces of the letter? What are you talking about?
@@nthgth marty wrote a letter to Doc,warning him about the lybian attack.
Then Doc tore said letter to pieces, then back in 1985, it was shown that he had taped the letter back together.
i agree with the letter marty wrote to doc plothole
he was supposed to tape it back up but marty intervened way too soon
how was 1955 doc going to know if he was gonna get shot by the libyans in 1985???
(paradox) unless marty tells him before he left for 1885 off camera
as for the 2nd thing
it was stated clearly in the 3rd movie during the festival scene
the wound would kill him by suppertime monday
doc does get shot that night of the festival while with clara
doc then realizing it was after he wrote the letter to marty he gave clara detailed information to his tombstone and a specific burial location for 1955 doc and marty to find before his imminent demise in 1885
I've rewatched the scene where Doc rips up the letter a few times, and I think you can just see him put the pieces in his pocket. he doesn't throw them on the floor as they get interrupted by the tree breaking the cable.
you can see at about 3mins ua-cam.com/video/CjTEwuWJI80/v-deo.html
@@boo453 true …i did the same thing and he does put it back in his pocket
Its for unexplained reasons before the timelines were disrupted
However marty coming back from 1985,2015,alternate 1985 and to his time he was for sure needing to live on to avoid further paradoxes and made sure to tape it up
“Finally, inner peace” - master Oogway
Itchy nose.
now what!
Kai, old friend
Master oogway
"Noodles, don't noodles."
Funny that Marty’s great-great-grandmother on his father's side looks exactly like his mother, when the two were not blood relatives.
Wow. Very good point. Never thought or seen that before
He points that out at 5:58.
I think the joke is that the men in his family like to go for women who look like Lorraine, lol
Either there’s no continuity in this move or Hill Valley has a SERIOUSLY bad incest problem
@@elliot7753 It's possible that Seamus took his wife's surname instead of her taking his upon marriage. While that happens on occasion in the current age, however, I highly doubt it would happen in 1885, especially considering the status of women back then.
4:37 Sending him back _before_ he writes the letter would be extremely dumb because then he’d risk altering the very circumstances that led to him finding the buried Delorean.
11:54 This is the stretch of track that leads to the unfinished bridge, so no train is going to deliberately travel down there.
14:05 She saw the model.
The only reason he went back is because Doc died, so by saving him, there's no reason to go back. Doc should always die just like the movie Time Machine.
I'm 46 and grew up with the Back to the future trilogy, we all knew there were some serious plot holes but it was only ever meant to be a bit of good fun. Enjoyed watching you video tho as you even pointed out some things I had missed!!
Doc: "Destroy the time machine!"
Also Doc: *makes a time machine train*
Also Also Doc: finds a duplicate of The Delorian created when lightning hit it in BTTF Part 2 and decides to hang out in the Prohibition era
At least the Delorean looked vaguely like a car and could be parked in a garage to hide it, where the hell are you going to put a train?
@@nslouka90 in a train yard
Doc just wanted an excuse too have a train
Like seriously who can say they own a train
@@YOURMOM53100 I own a train
another sin: doc Brown didn't give Marty his skateboard back
The brutality
The writer's of the movie said the technology in the hoverboard was what doc used to make his train time machine. Otherwise he would have been trapped 100 years in the past. So good thing he didn't.
It's fine. According to the intro to the animated series which plays after BTTF III he either gets a new one or actually gets it back.
But by the time Marty trains back to 1985, Doc had already hidden the BTTF2 Time machine in the mine. So back in 1885, Doc still had a mostly-built Delorean. With the electronics from the hoverboard, he could probably fix the time device enough to work, and repeat the train stunt to bring it to the future at 88mph. Eventually, of course, he'd have to go back and re-bury the Time Machine to avoid a paradox. But Doc would know that. Of course, that also raises the question of why he didn't put the hoverboard in the car when he buried it for Doc-1955 to find. Maybe he did. We never got a good look at the circuits and stuff Doc was using.
@@RedHeadKevin oh damn. so there was 2 deloreans in 1885 for bttf3 ? How the hell did I never think about that? He had a whole SECOND TIME MACHINE full of spare parts???
Clara knew where Doc and Marty would be because of the model in the shop. How she knew exactly *where* that was after only being in town for a few days is a puzzle though.
She could ask someone, it's what was a thing before GPS.
Didn't he tell her he's got a blacksmith shop in town? Didn't she go there to have her telescope looked at? Didn't... I don't have a third thing.
At Movie Sin Timer, 1:14 Marty doesn’t doesn’t say “we had a hover conversion done”…he says “well you had a hover conversation done…”
Sin for you, CinemaSins!!
"No" on the new actor for a villain. Wilson's Buford Tannen is the most entertaining thing in the movie. His voice alone ..!
" I said DRAW " !
@@ledsith "..... No!"
@@owens.studios "I thought we could settle things like men!"
@@timcunningham8615 you thought wrong dude 👉💥
And in Everything Wrong with Part II when you see Mad Dog Tannen on the screen outside Biff Tower they actually say "this is the great foreshadowing you get by making the sequel at the same time"! Sin for inconsistency.
11:53 no a train wouldn't have come through there. Because the ending of that track was at an unfinished bridge. No train would have a reason to go down that track.
Except in the future it would be an active train line
The railway builders when they travel down the track to work on the bridge but see the Delorean: 👁👄👁
@Jangler333 what’s that dumbshit flag u got there
There’s a split track where the straight line takes off somewhere else
Well spotted
You forgot to remove a sin for how in the hell did they have Seamus slap Marty with no cuts after he crashed into that fence? It still trips me out to this day.
17:17 the little one really has to go! He beckons to the crew then points you know where! 🤣🤣🤣
I always enjoyed that history keeps repeating itself with the chase in the town square. It kind of made "time" a character in the movie too.
ZZ Top was so outdated at this point they got sinned twice, at two different points.
I remember 11 year old me, sitting in the theater thinking it was really cool that ZZ Top was in this movie
They weren't that outdated. ZZ Top actually had an album in 1990 that received a fair amount of radio play.
ZZ Top was always cool. Mostly because of their beards and awesome album covers. Their image is what kept them somewhat relevant. But yeah ZZ Top was still selling records at a decent pace when this came out. I think even most millennials know who ZZ Top is. They are recognizable and I guess they figured because of the Western theme of the movie, they would fit in. Though they started out in Houston, which isn't that Western. Though one of the members lives where I live (Las Vegas) now.
I think there's kind of been a change. When I was in high school (1993-1997), some people my age thought it was odd that my dad and I went to see the Rolling Stones.
Now, it seems like older bands are really cool. You see tweens in Target ads wearing Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin and Motley Crue t shirts. I know people in their early 20's who went the last the ZZTop was in town
Another sin was left unsinned at the end of the movie. The fusion device from the future was left in the wreckage of the DeLorean so that it could have been found, reversed engineered, and the future altered by a much earlier creation of this device that when it was in the original, unaltered time line.
Not to mention the flux capacitor and the hover components. But we didn't see what happened once the credits rolled. Marty and Jennifer were still there, they could have disposed of the more sensitive components.
@@axebomber2108 yeah I'm sure that Marty dragged them all back to Doc's garage
The chances of someone thinking those items were important and doing that seems very low. At the most, they'd assume some amateur scientist had modified the car, but they wouldn't think whatever they did was significant enough to tear apart and reverse engineer.
8:40 I have always wondered this too. But the reason is actually very simple: They were just moving the DeLorean from the cave to Doc's shop.
Did I just yell "Finally!" so loud that my neighbours asked me to be quiet and bashed at the wall? Yes, yes I did.
The next step is to watch this. The step after is to murder your neighbors for being uncultured swine.
Could be worse, you could have cinemasins as your neighbors. Or be cinemasins next to your neighbors.
Should've said yes yes I did
Your neighbors have issues.
You, sir, just made my day. 1 sin removed! (reverse-ding)
1:28 "Well YOU had a hover conversion done in the early 21st century.... " ... No credit stealing here...
14:05 ... She saw the "not quite to scale" replica of Doc's plan in his shop... That's how she knew to come here...
Also Doc pulled the horn, so she also heard were the train is.
Also, she met them in that area , when she almost died. So she's familiar with where they are....
The gravestone being destroyed should cause a paradox. If its destroyed, Marty would never go back in time to save Doc, so it'd never be destroyed
Marty's line "Why do we always have to cut these things so damn close?" should have been a sin off, not an extra sin! Hilarious bit of self-aware script writing.
Also, another sin off for the brilliant (for the time) compositing work in most scenes between Seamus and Marty. To balance out the awful Doc/Clara hoverboard shot.
4:42 The reason they choose the next day after sending the letter is elementary, if Doc didn't send the letter then they would be unaware that he was in 1885, hence a paradox would happen. One way or another Doc would have to send the letter.
Marty could have just gone back to sometime right after Doc got there, they could have buried the DeLorean, wrote the letter and mailed it, then left 1885 before Doc got any attachment to it.
@@pioneertech-w5o But what if giving the letter to western union at a different time lead to it getting lost and never delivered to Marty in 1955?
@Noseberg Shekelstein Doc wouldn't have left gas in the Delorean if he did it would rust out the fuel tank and do damage to other engine parts.
@@TheAtkey But what did he do with the gas? Did he just dump it somewhere? That's careless. He should have at least saved it.
Doc probably didn’t want to risk messing up the timeline by leaving petrol laying around for anybody to find it and accidentally set themselves alight
While you made a lot of good points, why would you sin Clara knowing where to find Doc Brown? After she went back to town she went to his shop looking for him, saw the model and realized where they were going and why.
And of course she's good on a horse. I'm sure most people were before cars were invented since wagons are slower and more limited in where they can go.
Thank you I know cinemasins
Use the exuse of because we are assholes we can get away
With mistakes but there is also just ignoring a in movie explanation
CinemaSins is really BS sometimes. I know it's supposed to be "satire" but the "it's satire" thing just feels like an excuse. When some of the stuff you're saying is true, some of is literal lies, and other parts are just weird off-kilter "jokes", and you tie the entire thing together under the loose umbrella of "satire" the entire thing just feels really sloppy and flippant. CinemaSins used to be good, but they've really let their structure fall to the wolves in recent years
@@monkeysaru3957 Well, I dunno. Satire is supposed to criticise and ridicule things using irony, sarcasm and sometimes parody or parroting (at times making it look like strawman fallacy). CinemaSins is just humor, they aren't criticising anything, if they're satirizing/parodying anything that'd be film critics themselves. They're supposed to be too nitpicky, weird with their judgement and sometimes plain wrong, it's all part of the comedy. What they're meant to show, if anything, is how self-assured fucks known as critics claim there are all sorts of wrongs in any movie based solely on their bias. But first and foremost they're meant to make us laugh. It's fine if you don't like their humor, but don't take anything they say in sins videos seriously.
saying most people back then could jump from a horse onto a moving train would be like saying most people today could jump from a car to a moving train.
it takes a skilled horseman to even get a horse next to a moving train. he probably needs to train the horse first, doubt the average horse would get close to a train.
@@MrYfrank14
It's also like assuming that most people nowadays can drive a car - skillfully too !
@Jeff Holinski
Yes, back then horses were the main way to transport, but it doesn't mean that anybody could ride a horse. Especially a woman. And even if someone can ride a horse, it doesn't mean they can ride it as fast and as skillfully... Riding a horse at full speed is very dangerous and scary, not everybody can do it at all.
Sooo many of the same observations I've had when watching this over the years. ESPECIALLY the fact that it would have been far better to bring Clara to the future with them rather than leaving her in 1885! Also, I think a sin should have been removed when Jeb said, "Everybody everywhere will say Clint Eastwood is the biggest yellow belly in the west!" That's the best line in the movie. 😄
The best part of this movie is if you pause it when Seamus is saying that Marty could have backed away there's a scene where all of the on screen characters except the baby blink.
11:16
Holy shit youre right
I'm always with you on your sins, but as a genealogist, I have to say that when it comes to tombstones and families being connected in the same towns it's not that uncommon. I can tell you that tombstones can be VERY descriptive, especially in the late 1880s - 1910s. As for the Tannens knowing the McFlys through generations and decades, I wouldn't completely dismiss it. I live in a town in Southern California (like Hill Valley was) that my family was living in from the 1880s to current, 5 generations, and our families intertwined with a lot of other families that are still connected to this day. May seem far-fetched, but not as much as you think.
@RuleofVicus Which two presidents
@@bryangolphin3839 obama and trump
@RuleofVicus I'm a decendant of god
@RuleofVicus but were those two presidents also friends just like you two?
Make sense. Some of my great ants and uncles went to the same high school as my grandfather. They were very surprised to find that out at my parents' wedding.
Took 5 years to finally sin the entire trilogy that’s a personal sin itself
Ding
Theres another one coming out! "CONFIRMED" ua-cam.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/v-deo.html
just a random fat cop from gta 4 in real life Thank you! This is brand new! How did you find this? ;)
Similar story with all the other sagas. How long for Hobbit and Rings? When will they finish sinning all the Star Wars, DC and Marvel storylines? How much longer after Fast and Furious 9 releases this year and the final tenth one Vin said he planned the series to go to until those are finished? Did he finish the Lion King, Aladdin, Harry Potter and others yet?
@@javathehunt790 With the power of Raid: Shadow Legends
Aumjaya Kishatriya They did finish Harry Potter, and Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them.
You can literally see one of Buford's men throwing his gun belt to the deputy in the clip where you say only Buford turned in his weapons. Good job :-)
10:30 we literally see his goons tossing their weapons on the table 💀
"You know what they say: 'Nothing drops those panties faster than a few well-timed Jules Verne quotes'." I lost it there and nearly shot coffee out of my nose!
And shit as well
Biggest sin is what Emmett's son does in the background at the end of the film. Period.
Oh you’re talking bout Verne pointing at his crotch?
Poor kid had to pee, and that was the take they went with.
I've never noticed him before, until paying attention to him in this video. It appeared he has developmental disabilities. Perhaps he was a nephew of a producer or something.
MrMalchore or his parents sold his soul
17:16 ?
I always wondered about Clare. She has no place in the present they would have left her in. Not dying would have created a massive butterfly effect. Who knows what changes her or her children would have made to the timeline.
I'd say the chances of random people dying or being born at some point in history are very unlikely to make noticeable changes to the world.
You missed where doc told marty not to wear the shoes, that he shouldn't even be wearing them in 1955, but then he says what about that floating device. These are a great watch, i don't mind any of the sins in BTTF 1 2 or 3, love them all
At the end of the movie when Marty goes in reverse in that dangerous way to avoid racing, it’d be hilarious if that was the accident that hurt him so he couldn’t play guitar in the future.
oooohhhh after all that and destiny was waiting...
Pretty sure it's suggested that it was supposed to be that race that damaged his hand.
Haha right, or if the quick spin gave him a neck injury or something. Darkly funny.
@@hufflepunk9562 after he crashed into the Rolls, he punches the driver and injures his hand. It’s explained in the 2nd film.
Maybe the school fired Clara for being in love because teachers had to be single and abstinent.
Back then especially in frontier towns, the school only had one teacher and that person also ran the school.
Sadly that's entirely plausible. Even today people sometimes get fired from jobs, usually illegally, on the basis of their relationships. Though it's often very difficult to prove one was illegally fired from a job.
The "you can do it" line at the very end was genius
Also, when Clara pulls the string on the train, it immediately hits the emergency brakes and comes to a grinding halt! Did trains have an emergency brake cord for passengers to pull in 1885?
He needed to go back AFTER the letter was written to ensure it WAS written and the delorean was already hidden, as to not pollute the timeline that left them with most of a time machine to go back in time at all.
I was looking for this. Also, that DeLorean in the mine could not have been tampered in any way shape or form or that will screw things up.
The sin is that Marty could've done the following:
- Set the time machine for two weeks earlier
- Bring his copy of Doc's letter with him
- Have Doc write the letter verbatim from Marty's copy
- Post date the letter to the 1st, and give it to Western Union
- Destroy Marty's version of the letter from the future to remove it from the past
(Doc will have already stored the
DeLorean by this time)
@@Flashback1981 Meh, If Marty is gonna bring the letter with him, Doc doesn't even need to re-write it. Marty tells Doc about Western Union giving him the letter in 1955, where to hide the Delorean, etc... and Marty could've very well gone back to the day after Doc arrived in 1885 several months earlier.
@@Vaporvice84 If Marty brings the letter with him, this 70-year old piece of paper showing considerable age, plus being rained on when he read it during the storm, it will be 140-years old by the time Marty receives it again. Then 210 years old the next time Marty brings it back to give to Doc.
Eventually Marty wouldn't be able to use the letter again due to age and wear, possibly being unable to even read it, and never going back to save Doc.
This leads to a paradox:
Letter -> Marty DOES go to early 1885 -> Doc mails old letter again -> Eventually Marty can't read letter -> Marty DOESN'T go to early 1885 --> Letter
Simultaneously, Marty DOES and DOESN'T go to 1885
Then it's all Schrödinger.
@@Flashback1981 OK fine, Marty brings the letter anyway and has Doc re-write it verbatim.
He didn't remove a sin for the callback to PT II with the breastplate in the shootout, like the movie wealthy Biff watches in his hot tub? Also - Marty watched that whole Clint Eastwood scene in PT 2 before coming up to Biff?
Or he just watched the Clint Eastood film?
And the sin about “could have been shot in the face” is tactically incorrect. Unless you’re a top-notch gunslinger, in a stand-off you’re aiming for the best odds of hitting the target...center mass. To waste your first (and maybe only) shot on a headshot is foolish at best. So, expecting Mad Dog to aim for the chest was correct.
@@qdllc which is the same reason why people generally don't try to aim for arms or legs when shooting someone, which is why a lot of cops are trained to use their gun as a last resort (or at least should be trained to do so), as you said, shooting at a smaller target means they're less likely to hit.
Shooting at an arm is much easier to miss than a torso
@@qdllc Still doesn't preclude the fact that he could have been shot in the face.
@@sfmc98 But it was a recreation of the original scene, and Ramón always aimed at the heart.
One of the things that always bothered me about this movie was after Marty made it back to 1985. After the train hits the Delorean that noise would have had everyone in the surrounding neighborhood gathering around to see what that huge noise was. When Marty and Jennifer were walking around looking at the damage, there should have been tons of people there as well.
THAT'S what bothers you??? Wow
@@matthewfonseca8466 Yup. It's one of a few things.
@Power106Fan Agree with you with Doc showing up in the daylight. I didn't even think about those booms at the McFly house when Doc shows up. The entire neighborhood would have been out.
14:55 "Hoverboards become capable of flight" was the sin we were hoping for. Greenscreen is crazy obvious, so I have to sin you.
He said there was a coffee machine, where is it?
@@jayceanderson7083 The Mr Fusion.
The long and short answer: nothing is wrong with the back to the future franchise
Too few movies?
frozenaorta there’s enough movies back to the future 4 is the one of the few movies that should never be made
@@BaronVladHarkonnen This is true. I was just making a joke I guess, because I love the franchise. But a 4th movie would be a crime.
I see you, Indiana Jones.
@@BaronVladHarkonnen Wait there was a fourth one?
Lol... If only that were true.
Missed sin: the Doc’s creepy son.
Wasn't the kids actor deaf
Yeah the dirty wee fecker pointing at his dick.
Apparently he just had to piss.
He’s a child. Children do weird things.
The flared nostrils, beckoning motion, and fact that he’s staring at Elizabeth Shue suggest something much more sinister than a need to ‘piss’.
14:15 As someone who lives near train tracks, I need to say trains travel at all hours of the day and night. Before I got used to them, the trains running kept me awake at night with their whistles.
0:47 Doc's scream being different than the first film makes sense in universe. Since 1985 Doc interacted with 1955 Doc, the timeline was altered so it's not surprising young Doc's behavior would be slightly different.
"Nothing drops panties like Jules Verne's quotes" made me laugh for 5 minutes straight!
Shakespeare. That's where it's really at with the lady pals.
You'd be surprised how much science turns the science girls on. I absolutely MELT when a guy demonstrates scientific knowledge.
8:05 In the first movie, the big plot point was the time machine aspect, but otherwise, it was just an ordinary Delorean that ran on ordinary gasoline. The car could get to the required speed, but the tricky part was simultaneously getting the required power for the Flux Capacitor. If the car ran on plutonium instead of gas, then when the plutonium was used up in the jump to the past, the car wouldn't be able to drive at all. The end of the first movie and the second movie added Mr. Fusion for the flying component and a plutonium replacement for the time travel. In the third movie, there are not any issues with the time travel component on the DeLorean Marty uses to get to the past, but the tricky part is getting the required speed, and that's where gasoline, which wasn't an issue in the previous movies, comes into play.
Exactly as I always say 1 and 3 have opposite problems. In 1955 they had all the gasoline the could want but no power for the flux. In 3, they had all the garbage (power for the flux) but no gasoline.
This guy would be excellent at CinemaWins
And this is what kinda bugs me..doesn't the Delorean Doc buried in the cave have gas in it? They both know where it's at, it's not like they couldn't go in there and drain it then leave it boarded up again
Sometimes I think he dosen't put to much thought into his Sins, as a matter of fact, like a quarter of the sins in these videos is simply because they don't wanna think about it for more then a few seconds
My biggest complaint about this...gasoline was available in 1885! It was a byproduct of kerosene production, since it was a smaller carbon chain from the heavier kerosene, it used to be dumped into rivers, and then used as a stain remover for clothing, sold in every general store at the time.
Since Oil was discovered in Titusville, PA in 1859, they could have had all the gas they wanted for next to nothing!
17:17
I can't believe he didn't mention the boy pointing to his groin.
Was going to write the same thing!
I thought he would as that would be right up his alley.
We will never know why that kid that
I love everything about all the BTTF movies. I love that they repeat, i love that they are the same but different, i love that all the characters are played by the same people. These are perfect movies and since i list watched this 5 months ago i have probably watched all 3 10-15 times each, usually i start at 1 and let them play through, i do that on my cat date nights. You really don't sin them too hard but i think they are perfect. I notice more flaws than most people i'm sure, things that don't make sense, but they are simply the best movies i've ever watched.
2:58 Cinemsins miss; "Better come take a look at this cliché."
When you mentioned it'd be better for them to take Clara with them as her being alive already messed with the timeline, I literally had to say "thank you!"
David Prov Judging by the movie itself, the only real contribution Clara made to the timeline was falling into Shonash Ravine and getting it renamed. Since her LIVING past that event didn’t really change anything in 1985 (except who the ravine was renamed after), what are you talking about?
@@what0080 Well, when she died she wasn't there to do anything or talk to anyone. Now that she's alive she can do things she wouldn't have done, which might change history. The same way Doc changed the life of Clara simply by being there to save her and not fall to her death.
The thing is, if Clara goes with them wouldn’t there be 2 Clara’s in the timeline they’re going? It is either that, or Clara would have her timeline straight shooting into the future, which would mean she would always stay with Doc because departing from him would literally generate another timeline in which they aren’t together, which I guess would be romantic to have such a connection between Doc and Clara..man, I’m thinking about this more than the guys who made the movie
It wouldn’t have been though...🤦♂️
Yes. He should have invited her to the future with them, she doesn't believe him, same argument, same outcome. Wasted opportunity to respect a woman in an 80's macho movie although she got more respect than Elizabeth Shu's throw-away Jennifer..
11:30 just noticed this for the first time after seeing this movie 300 times. They obviously did green screens to get his two versions on the same screen, but when Maggie is talking to Marty not even close to looking at each other! She also a few seconds before this very obviously looking back and forth and not seeing anything. Marty starts moving and she still looks where he was for a couple seconds lol.
Nobody caught that Clara was mentioned in Doc's obituary, meaning somehow she already survived the crash into the ravine which she was destined to. So it means somehow even without Marty's intervention and trying to find a way to speed up the Delorian, Doc was going to randomly run into Clara in the desert. Not only so, but by rescuing her the 1st time and supposely Doc dies, it means Clara lived on and probably had children thus polluting the timeline.
Of course knowing this, the most puzzling is that Doc is a scientist, so he would already know that taking Clara with them is the RIGHT thing to do, b/c Clara's existence is polluting the timeline. So why did Doc first decide not to take her? He's a bad scientist who understands very little about temporal mechanics.
"Nobody caught that Clara was mentioned in Doc's obituary, meaning somehow she already survived the crash into the ravine which she was destined to. So it means somehow even without Marty's intervention and trying to find a way to speed up the Delorian, Doc was going to randomly run into Clara in the desert."
No, it means that Clara dying in the ravine was part of the original time line that the movies started off with but that time line and her death was already changed when Doc went back to 1885 and agreed to pick her up at the town meeting prior to Marty even showing up. What we saw in the movie was Doc getting a reminder of what he already agreed to do but when Marty showed up it created yet another time line branch that changed things yet again.
--------original time line where Clara died (Clayton Ravine)
\
\---Doc to 1885 creating a new off-shoot timeline where he picks up Clara so she never needed saving and he gets a tombstone (probably stayed Shonash Ravine)
\
\---Marty to 1885 creating off-shoot time line of Doc's timeline where Doc now forgets to pick-up Clara so she has to drive herself again but now they happen to be nearby - as she does so and they manage to save her ( now Eastwood Ravine)
@@olinorth - Nice! I didn't take it that meeting Clara meant he was going to pick her up. However, that does explain why she was on the wagon when Hubert said she would be coming at the train station. So basically Marty briefly restored the timeline before they ran into her again in the desert.
Love is fate, huh?
His inconsistency with his paranoia of space-time continuum interruption was the most frustrating part of this movie when he very blatantly contradicts himself.
"Why does shamus care?"
See Irish in american history, they had a very tough lot, helping out another irishman was basic survival in a country that hated them on every level
But did he think that "Clint Eastwood" was Irish? That's not an Irish name and he didn't have an Irish accent.
He felt a kinship to him. That was pretty obvious from how he acted.
@@roguishpaladin I don't know the American history as much, but for what I can understand McFly doesn't strike me as an Irish name either
That's the biggest load of crap I've ever heard 😂
@@roguishpaladin Neither did Seamus XD
17:17 - No sin/removal sin for the kid doing the hand gestures?
Marty has to go back the day after the letter because if he goes sooner then he might run into Doc before he wrights the authentic letter.
17:16-sin for not doing another take so we don't have to see the kid communicating that he has to pee.
Missed sin: The train that destroyed the De Lorean never stopped. Ding!
Nice!!
It can take a train a very long time to stop once it gets moving.
@@henrynorcrossii3363 I know, but as far as I can tell it never even put on the brakes.
Also, the whole crash aftermath felt phony -- there were other cars waiting at the crossing, and houses all around, yet not one person came over to check out the crash and see if anyone was hurt. I know, it's just a silly time-travel comedy, but that kind of broke my suspension of disbelief. :-)
@@raydunakin thankfully, I was like 12 when this came out so it didn't matter much then. You're right though.. The cops swarm when a rolls royce that runs a stop sign is hit, but a train kills someone? Nah, we good 😅
If you were a train driver and you wrecked a Delorean, would you really let that affect your deadline lol?
Missed three sins:
1. Clara pulls an "emergency cord" to stop the train, which wouldn't have existed on that train.
2. When the locomotive is uncoupled, the train has knuckle couplers, which wouldn't have been in use at the time.
3. The train hits the Delorean without stopping. As soon as the crew saw the car on the tracks, they would have thrown the train's brakes into emergency braking. They wouldn't have stopped in time, but they wouldn't have just kept going.
They never do any research to find any actual mistakes most of the stuff coming out of Jeremy’s mouth in these videos is a load of bullshit
@@BaronVladHarkonnen And yet you insist on coming here and helping to support the videos by commenting and responding to comments. If you really didn't like this stuff, the smart thing to do would be to leave.
Renato Corvaro I never said I didn’t like it I like cinema sins picking out his mistakes is part of the fun for me
@@BaronVladHarkonnen Fair enough. Too many haters in the comments, I get confused. My apologies.
The train also appeared to have air brakes, which didn't become more common until after that, no?
I have to ask questions that other fans of the series might be able to answer. When Marty is in the town of Hill Valley in 1885 I am sure that tall, mature Australian eucalyptus trees can be seen in the background. People from gold rush towns like Ballarat and Bathurst came to California. They planted eucalyptus trees. Demand for the tree as a building material didn’t explode until the 1870s.
Was this something that the film makers overlooked?
It’s just that the trees in the movie looked much older than 15 - 25 years.
Doc: *stuck in 1885*
Also Doc: *returns to 1985 to see Marty with a giant time train that runs on steam, has a flux capacitor and can fly*
Me: "ok"
No sin for the fact that Doc is ALWAYS yelling his lines regardless of his proximity to whoever he's talking to?
He's a mad scientist .. They don't whisper 😂
Also I'm not sure Christopher Lloyd is capable of saying multiple words in the same tone. EVEN his COMMERCIALS are ALL done IN different TONES!! lol.
I'm getting really annoyed that he sins some of the best parts of this movie. When Marty says "great Scott" and Doc says "I know this is heavy" I loved it. It's not a sin to have clever writing.
Yeah but then again it's for fun.
The moment you take Cinema Sins seriously is the moment you need to stop and rethink your life. It's not a serious channel - its clever shitposting and I think you might have fallen for it.
To quote the narrator "We are assholes and none of this matters."
CinemaSins is really BS sometimes. I know it's supposed to be "satire" but the "it's satire" thing just feels like an excuse. When some of the stuff you're saying is true, some of is literal lies, and other parts are just weird off-kilter "jokes", and you tie the entire thing together under the loose umbrella of "satire" the entire thing just feels really sloppy and flippant. CinemaSins used to be good, but they've really let their structure fall to the wolves in recent years
@@Pepingco There's a bullshit copycat channel called 'everything wrong with cinema sins (insert movie title)' and it's garbage. The guy claims he likes Cinema Sins then get's all serious when trying to 'sin' their videos, what's worse is he tries to criticize Jeremy in an almost aggressive way.
@@monkeysaru3957 Probably is still as original as it can be though considering there are literally ten of thousands of movies in existence. What started out as what you could imagine to be a joke, turned into quite a large following. Granted it's probably not for everyone, but it's a tough gig trying to make people laugh over and over again.
4:09=He only says "Great Scott" in the first movie three times.
17:17 blonde kid makes the “come here” signal then points at his groin
I actually saw an explanation for that. The kid was trying to tell the director he had to pee and it accidentally got left in the scene.
"If you want, you can buy a revolver inside the festival..." You know, I ran across something similar in real life. At a county fair, you couldn't get through the front gate if you had one of a few types of items and had to either return it to your car or permanently surrender it. Like knives. Now, get past the gate and go only so many feet to the sales area. All the switch blades and cutting utensils that money could buy. So...these things really do happen. Guess if you are honest enough to drop that family antique knife into a disposal box, then you are honest enough to carry around a new knife with no threat of doing anything harmful with it.
Airport Security: You can't bring in any water
Airport Stores: $6 for water
TSA will confiscate your nail clippers. Then the store on the other side of the gate will sell you a new pair. It's stupid.
@@cjxgraphics Ah but those are *approved* nail clippers
there's no guarantee that the set you brought from home isn't a set made by terrorists to give everyone horrible hangnails
remember AIRPLANE?
I'll take the third bomb from the left.
10:30 This sin is false. You can literally see the gang throw their gun belts on the table.
CinemaSins literally makes up "flaws" in a move that aren't true a lot of the time and then pretends that that's them making a joke. How is slicing a movie to make it look bad then criticising it for non-existent plotholes a "joke"? This is why I'm giving up on CinemaSins, they've become absolute rear-water lately.
@@monkeysaru3957 good. Glad more and more people see this
HAIRCUT I think he should've sinned the fact that the deputy and the marshal don't check Buford's hat for any firearms.
MrRandomTV1000 Just saying.
I searched and found this comment... thank you!
when the train plows into the delorean, it dosen't even slow down or stop !!!! it just keeps going as if nothing happened .
As someone who is familiar with steam locomotives there are several aspects of the locomotive delorean scenes that do not represent the realities of steam technology. 1) As the locomotive falls off the uncompleted bridge the driving wheels of the locomotive would have speed up immensely as it fell. This locomotive like most has no governor, the load on the engine would have decreased and it's engine rpm would have risen dramatically. 2) In the movie they used pyrotechnic fireworks to represent the locomotive hitting the bottom of Eastwood ravine, it wouldn't have looked like that with little missles flying around. 3) The presto logs that doc brown made would simply not have been able to have any kind of instantaneous effect on the locomotives boiler. Heat transfer takes time. 4) The final prestolog also would not have made the boiler explode how it did, the smoke stack doesn't hold that much pressure. 5) It's very unlikely that a steam locomotive would both blow up like this and continue to operate.
13:18 Not only is this homage to a Clint Eastwood film, but it is a very accurate way of using armor. When wearing ballistic armor, guess what it covers? That exact area.
Because not only does it contain most vital organs, but it is the most common target. Even trained military personnel with rifles are taught to shoot at center mass to increase the chance of a hit. A pistol, with it's shortened range, being fired from the hip (which lowers precision), would take immense skill to hit the head from that distance when trying to outdraw someone else. While it wouldn't be impossible, the smart shot is for the chest to guarantee a kill or to at least heavily wound so you can finish them off.
Also, the real sin of that scene is dumb ass biff punching something that bullets didn't work on
@@CheZfrmdaWestWisc Bufford Tannen wasn't as smart as Biff.
Not to mention that homage was set up in the 2nd movie's alternate '85.
@@Pazstruke was about to mention that. I was thinking about how much part II set up for part three because they were written at the same time.
Marty had a photo of the tombstone. When he devised his plan, he already knew if it was going to work or not
"Why did he re enter on the train track if the train can fly? did he know Marty was going to be there at that exact moment?
Well, considering Doc told him what time to go back to, and where they were going... Yes, he knew where he was going to be lol
Yeah, but Marty had since been home, got his truck. Then picked up Jennifer. Then drag raced Flea. There's gotta be a couple of hours in that time since arriving back in 1985
But he didn't though. Because Marty came back, reconnected with Jennifer, backed out of the drag racing challenge and THEN went back to the tracks.
Doc would have no clue what time he would come back to meet up with him.
@@exZell Unless.. This is the 10th or so time Doc has been in that moment in 1985. :P
Dash Rendar which would totally explain why Doc has Einstein already.
Doc probably already asked the Marty from 2015 for the approximate time that he returned to the tracks with Jennifer.
17:17 Yo whats that little kid up to tho? Those are some suspect hand motions💀💀💀💀
I'm surprised for the sin in the show down scene. Earlier in the film not only is it a Clint Eastwood film that Biff is watching when Marty storms in, but it's specifically the scene where Clint uses a piece of iron as a hidden bulletproof vest; something that Marty will remember when in that situation...
Sin 7 isn’t eligible:
“Yeah, well YOU had a hover conversion done in the early 21st century.”
That's the way I always heard it too... But I can hear it the other way now as well.
Yea just watched with captions... Yeah well YOU HAD a hover conversions... Is what is said... But sin still applys.. If you want to know why watch Every thing wrong with Cinemasins 😄😂
I'm Italian, I can confirm that this "error" slept in a lot of foreign dubbings, including ours.
I remember perfectly that in the Italian dub Marty said (translated) "WE made the hover convertion done in the early 21st century" and even as a kid I asked myself why Marty used the we like he wanted to boast himself in front of the younger Doc
Definitely says "you". Technically he says "ya had" but still definitely not we
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