The whole 'invited to buy if you have already bought Porsches thing is absolutely why I disagree with Porsche following the wanky Ferrari customer mantra. Awful behaviour. The £100k instant premium proves that invite only decision doesn't work, and only fuels the 911 tax. Whatever happened to being the first come, first served? I don't want a car company to choose me to buy their car, I am the customer and I am always 'right'.
That seems to be only a UK thing. In germany for example, you can just order them at the normal rate. Some dealerships have allocations on offer. You can change the spec if you wish untill the deadline is reached before productionstart
It’s much more an issue with U.K. dealers than Porsche themselves although they could allocate more RHD U.K. cars as the demand is there. Maybe it’s to keep the residual values of their cars higher I really don’t know
They're doing that in the US too. Unless you're a really high end VIP you're not getting a 992 GT3 or GT4 RS. At least two dealerships i talked to said they're taking the rest of the allocations and loading them up and then it's FCFS
IMV Porsche should not limit the production of the GT3. Limit the RS, R, Weissach for the "wanky Ferrari customer mantra". I wonder whether we'll ever see an economic climate like in 2005 when an OPC begged you to buy a 996.2 GT3 with a discount!
Some UA-camrs have lambos and no knowledge about cars and content turned toward them showing off. They have millions of views. Harry posting incredible content and feedback for years, on amazing cars . This man has an incredible knowledge and is very honest in his reviews and has only half a million followers. I don't understand people .
It's the same reason why highest quality (best researched, best written) newspapers have far less viewers than tabloid trash. There are only so many people who look for - and can correctly interpret - facts.
100%. You have wankers like Marcus on Auto Focus. I enjoy some of his content regarding computers but he has absolutely no car knowledge yet tons of views and comments stating how awesome his reviews are. I don't get it.
You can tell the difference between a car influencer and someone who just loves real world use from their cars. Harry, I agree entirely although I'd be interested in your opinion on the touring minus roll cage and wing. Less downforce and rigidity has got to be some improvement. Jams May was also right, the Nurburgring makes good track cars, but poor road cars
Not entirely true, Nurburging is harshest track for cars, so a car capable in Nurburging will have decent road usability....... GT3 is still a (racing) car for the road experience, if you want the 50/50 it's the GTS model, here where Harry got it wrong, Porsche made GTS more towards track driving this generation which gave it that 50/50 sort of usability, GT3 is sort of 70/30 while GT3RS will be sort of 80/20...... So Porsche did provide all kind of cars for every customer
@@TRX25EX i concur. Also worth adding the 992 Turbo S is now more like a GTS in terms of ride and handling whereby previous gen are softer. So Porsche seem to be sharpening up the entire range
@@TRX25EX The GTS is turbocharged and therefore undesireable compared to NA GT3 option.and it has maintained the same niche as previous generations. As I said, I think he needs to test the manual Touring to see if that matches his expectations more.
@@aerorobnz GTS have that NA flat 6 feel and interior sound to it, of course not as good as GT3 engine but good enough for a 50/50 car..... As for Touring it's same as GT3 nothing will be different here, the problem is harshness as he said which can be fixed by getting GTS or Turbo S models that are known for that 50/50 in 992 generation, except Turbo provide that extra luxury also
Great review as always, this is the first road biased review that’s been done i feel. Which does point to the new cars downfalls, i’m sure a good set of dampers and adjustment could do the trick, but it’s not what you want from a brand new car. To be honest, i was more interested in the 997 gt3, i hope there’s a video of that coming soon :)
God what a brilliant review, no fuss, straight to the point. Harry’s one of the best if not the best today. Please don’t miss the last 10 seconds. What an ending!!
Given it can sometimes seem obligatory to award an instant five stars to anything that comes out of Weissach, really glad to hear Harry's candour in this video about the car's shortcomings on rural British roads. Glorious though that powerplant sounds!
I did notice a photographer at the side of the road and pondered what he might be photographing . A few moments later, I spotted a red Citroen BX and guessed that might have been it! Small world..
Long -time petrol head a collector here. Your excellent, mature, clear, concise, and information-packed review is truly a breath of fresh air. After watching your video I feel like I had a somewhat thorough presentation of the car. No stupid jokes, tattoos, sloppy attire, non-funny skits - just the car facts. Bravo !!!
I appreciate the honesty in this review. The pros and cons. Some reviews go on and on how great things are with no mention of real world issues, like the steering darting around due to the camber
Love this man's clear headed assessment. As someone who own's 2 Porsches, the Gt-3 is way too stiff and noisy for the average driver. Maybe it's great for the track, but it's really annoying on the road. And we have really good roads in Colorado. But even on good roads, you can't hear your self think, let alone answer a phone call.
Thank you for this provably accurate and brutally honest review of the 992 GT3. Your exposure of the 992 GT3 ridiculously low ground clearance due to the frames around the newly designed air flow vents successfully REDUCES the ground clearance by more than 1 inch from the already extremely low 991.2 GT3 RS. With only a 3" ground clearance, this low ground clearance seriously gives me second thoughts about owning a 992 GT3. The 3" ground clearance is absolutely un-drivable in any US city. That restaurant driveway would have been unnavigable even if the car had the front lift system! The hydrolic lift system only adds another 1" to the ground clearance. Prospective GT3 and GT3 RS owners should see this as a huge deal breaker. The other setbacks including the steering wheel movements and the noise, to me those are part of the experience of driving a more track focused model and I would enjoy that as part of the intense, visceral experience. But the 3" ground clearance issue is a huge deal breaker unless the front lift system adds at least 2" instead of 1". What are your thoughts on this?
As a person who has owned many cars ranging from r8s', 720s', 992 Turbo S', etc. All I can say is take a driveway near perpendicular and you will be fine. I currently have a GT3 on order with a March build date, and while I will say the 3 inch clearance is low, the FAL gives another 40mm of clearance; putting the car at the same front height as something like a new c63 or m4. Moreover, knowing a few people who got their hands on 992 GT3's already - none have posed it as an issue as long as your cautious entering roads
You’re a legend Harry, thanks for this honest review on the 992 GT3. Being based in the UK, and owning a 981 GT4… like you, 95% of my driving is on UK roads. The car has to suit the occasion, and I totally get your well expressed thoughts in this video. Merry XMAS!
Find the 981 GT4 way more rigid and harsher than the new GT3 , even ground clearance is about 3.5 cm better on the GT3 without the FAL , 9 vs 12.5 cm Would be great Max if you have a chance to try one and compare them
The GT3 is all about the engine and manual gearbox. I must admit this is the first review I have seen where it's been driven on ordinary roads. In Australia with it's coarse chip bitumen and heavily cambered roads this would be a nightmare. Condensation inside the lights on a Porsche? Can't open the engine cover? Thanks Harry for the excellent review.
That's the great thing about your content, you are not afraid to say it how it is. What more can we ask for in this day and age. Merry Christmas Harry, thanks for all your content & thank you for making a difficult year just that bit easier to endure. Cheers Si
It seems Porsche, like many companies now a days, became obsessed with Nürburgring lap times and forgot that for most people 99% of the miles will be on the road
That induction noise; almost emphasised by this being a road based review. Certainly brought a grin to my face when watching this video. Strange that the GT3 has been calibrated to be so harsh and focussed when they have headroom for that behaviour for the RS version. Still, a cracking car and one that I would love to be in a position to own one day.
This 992 GT3 looks as track-focused as the previous (991) GT3 RS, with slighlty better performance even. Incredible car... what will the 992 GT3 RS be? ;-) Edit: pretty much what Harry said at 22:10.
Harry is a true enthusiast. And highly knowledgeable and so detail oriented. Such a pleasure watching his superb videos on this and other channels. Fantastic quality.
Thank you for offering such a different perspective from all the other GT3 reviews out there. This car is clearly an absolute juggernaut on track but is quite heavily flawed as a road car
Tyrrells Classic Workshop just thanked Harry for his help to start up an YT, while testing Harry´s Espada. While I was watching Ian giving Harry´s Espada the beans, I go a notification about Harray´s Garage. We don´t deserve this kind of gold!
Great video Harry. I am lucky to have driven 5000 miles in my 992GT3 now and I’ve enjoyed every single minute. The suspension is harsh in both tge sport and track settings (on the road), but you can reconfigure “Sport” mode with “Normal” suspension. This delivers the best road setting I find. You then have the Sport engine map, Sport PDK mode and softest suspension. Set up like this, the car is a joy to drive down my local B roads.
Thats great info Mark it would be interesting to have had Harry’s thoughts based on having the suspension in the normal mode as opposed to sport or track he did look like he tried to find a softer setting however obviously didn’t dig deep enough into the set up settings
@@SS-oj4en there's not a lot of difference in the damper settings, Sport to Track just tightens them slightly. This car reviewed here is not representative of how 992 GT3s drive, but I think the Cup2 tyres haven't helped. Mine is on PZERO Corsa and it drives amazingly well, no tramlining (my M2 is worse), and cabin noise is not particularly bad either. Cruises effortlessly too.
Have we forgotten cars are meant to be used on roads not tracks and meant to be attainable without special permission🙁 As a car nut I find myself being turned off, the new breed of super cars and reminds me why I still love my 997 and 987.
Because Harry doesn't gush and squeal in every, single, car he drives like some reviewers, you tend to sit up and pay attention when he DOES get excited. Another great review!
We need a “Harry reacting to Acceleration” compilation! Your reaction, despite being accustomed to the fastest cars in the world, is always of surprise and it’s gold!
Harry that was so funny, about 15 minutes of semi-grumbling about ride comfort, lack of ground clearance, noise levels, the fact that it's not quite as usable as you'd like, condensation in the headlamps, then you put your foot down, screamed all the way to 9,000rpm and all of those grumbles just melted away, your face lit up and you were in love with it. Truly you are one of us, a proper petrol head! A very balanced and realistic final judgement though, quite refreshing to hear that viewpoint.
I don’t think I‘ve ever heard Harry saying that he was NOT looking forward to drive a car. Makes you wonder why he is the only one mentioning this. Maybe some youtubers have better cinematography, but Harry is the true car reviewer and the only opinion that actually bears any weight. Thanks for the video!
Those vents are the same on the 997 GT3 and RS… they are blocked for legal reasons (spray and grit/rock blast) but are easily open by removing the blank and work. 👍
GT3 is a legend, have driven 996 & 997 versions, the 996 is I think the epitome of the GT3. 140k and condensation in the lights… if it was mine someone at Porsche would certainly know about it in no uncertain terms!!
Having watched lots of reviews of this and other cars, I have to say, well done, such a great presentation and interesting details. This is truely how to do a road review.
Not that its a decision im lucky enough to make but the more i read and watch about the current lineup i really see the GTS in either AWD or RWD depending on the climate you live in as the all-rounder king of the lineup. Especially with a manual, an AWD GTS really gives you a unique proposition as a sort of "manual" 992 Turbo/S with probably 98% of the real world performance. Great review as always Harry!! have a nice holiday
Yes I watched a few video reviews of this car and the real world / life driving is hardly mentioned. Great move by Harry in waiting so he could get a road review.
Just changed from a GT3 (991.2) to a GT3RS (991.2), GT3 was great on the road, completed the nc500 with my wife with no issues. The GT3RS is too fussy, as this new 992, to the point it becomes distracting. Seriously thinking about getting back to the normal GT3! Love the reviews Harry.
Cracking content Harry. Your ‘real world’ reviews are so relevant to us in the UK where the roads are; at best; shockingly poor. The hype behind so many super cars hides the reality of day to day driving especially when you’re paying a six figure sum for the privilege! Like many I can only dream of getting my hands on a 992 GT3 but I grasp the thrill of the engine as I own a 991.1 GTS. The sound you experience as the engine revs rise is intoxicating. Keep up the fabulous work, all the best for 2022.
At last a real world view of the 992 GT3. Too track focused and harsh, I'm with you Harry the 911 Turbo S is the go to machine. This new GT 3 will only appear on track days and other times will sit in a collection. Thanks for a down to earth test and not one blinkered by boyish enthusiasm.
I've been avoiding every other UA-cam review of the 992 GT3 untill the GOAT, Mr Harry from the garage... Got his hands on one. Did not disappoint kind sir!!!!!
Great review. Rather have a Turbo S nowadays, which you can actually rake up the miles on. Besides, if you have to pay markup, a loaded Turbo S is actually cheaper than a base spec GT3! Arguably more of the same car for less money.
I love Harry's videos, I always learn something watching them. If I ever get back to the UK or he comes to Aus I would love the chance to talk to him for 5 minutes.
Great video again Harry. It is sad as the GT3 was always a road car that you could use on track and the RS was a track car you could use on the road. I have just finished reading EVO car of the year and they all felt the same about the Touring, which should be even more road biased, but I think it is the same set up. They did well not to chase ever higher power, but probably felt that the only way to ‘improve’ on the 991.2 was for a faster lap time. It’s a shame as GT3 have always been fantastic and very usable road cars
I owned a 996 GT3 and frankly it was less comfortable on the road than a 992 GT3. Neither the GT3 or GT3 RS have ever been satisfying daily drivers, except for very few hardcore owners. The RS always has more flash but almost never much faster on track. Like a fine instrument, any GT3 or RS will take a lifetime to master. And that's the point.
The best car reviews on current media full stop. You seem to talk far more sense than most of the other ‘Influencers’. I want to know what a vehicle is like in real world situations, not just melting tyres on a private track etc. Keep up the great work and have a wonderful Christmas.
Terrific review Harry , you are now the expert that remains independent and honest about car reviews after decades of comparisons to relate to. So refreshing compared to so many other so called ‘internet influencers’ who I personally don’t find any where near as knowledgable. Keep it up for all us true petrol heads 👍🏻
They nailed the 991.2 GT3. Both in performance and aesthetics. The 992 could be tamed with different dampers and springs. A proper "street" alignment would also do wonders. It's never going to be as pretty though.
The 992 GT3 Touring didn’t fare particularly well in EVO Car of the Year group test either. If they’d put the GT3 engine in the GTS, it would have solved the problem and created a nice road car with the special engine. Nice review Harry.
They also said the front end on the touring felt very different to the proper gt3 they tested a coupe of issues back. That gt3 also beat the McLaren 600LT and GTR Nismo, both ecoty winners. That review made it sound like the 992 GT3 is the most exciting thing ever. I wonder if the (adjustable) suspension on that car has several different set ups out in the wild, with some working much better on road.
Everyone else who’s reviewed the touring thinks it’s absolutely superb. The car they seemed to test didn’t behave in the same ways that others had experienced.
@@napalmhotdog4365 yes it’s odd the Touring in EVO that was tested in Scotland (and driven there and back) didn’t perform well, but it does now seem to corroborate with Harry’s views here. Very dependent on the type of road.
Sounds like Porsche engineers should incorporate your favourite bit of road for their road testing… Hopefully the engine gets used in a few other variants which are more suitable for road driving.
Thank you for another enjoyable Sunday watch Harry. It is so nice to see someone give an everyday perspective of owning such a special car, and to be able to freely speak your mind instead of being mesmerized by the engine or, even worse, brownosing Porsche, is really delightful.
I'm sure they have done a long test on road developing this GT3 but it needs to be extended to B roads aswell otherwise its unreallistic. Like you said, they have the GT3 RS for that.thanks for another great video Harry! Cheers from Portugal
i remember getting well pissed with condensated inside headlights on my 2008 GTD golf id spent good money on (in 2012) so id be furious with that on the porshe haha
They made this for journalists and for the Nürburgring times, not for the person that's supposed to live with it. I love the fact that it's N/A, sounds amazing!
This is the best review of the new gt3 by a mile. Harry you are The GOAT of this game of cars. Every time I see a youtuber using your piece of road for their videos makes me laugh.
Harry, the first video I saw with you was on drive tribe when you and Richard were reunited with the Ferrari 550. Since then I've really enjoyed your channel and your videos, so keep up the great content!
This has always been my dream car but now I wouldn’t want it, too noisy for driving on the roads. In fairness they’ll mostly be used on track but I always thought the RS was for that and the standard GT3 more road oriented.
I have to say I have similar thoughts. Has anyone done a review of how much the Touring spec changes these characteristics? I assume a ClubSport GT3 is the most “RS” of the GT3s? Am certainly curious, as from what Harry describes it doesn’t seem like this car would be an even tolerable daily.
@@skendler The touring is basically the same car. Personally I think the 992 GTS would be a much better choice as a pure road car (it's quicker than you would ever need and probably quicker than a GT3 in the real world). Although obviously it doesn't have that epic NA engine.
Hope you know how much we appreciate all your good work Harry. I have a 20 year old Lexus which refuses to die, 2 small kids and a hatred of Netflix so all that keeps me going sometimes is seeing what car you recommend I buy when I win the lottery. Right now I am thinking a Rapide.
I had a previous generation of 911 and I ended up selling it. Those cars are magnificient on a perfect country road but are a pain on a normal 'potholed' city street. Because of that I was using it only a few thousands miles per year.
First 911 I wouldn’t want to own. It’s an amazing track tool but these cars were build from the beginning to be a “do it all” road car. I’d have the GTS or Turbo S in a snap over this one and save a ton of coin. Still loved the review though, Harry!!
Thanks for everything you have posted in 2021. I look forward to seeing what's coming in 2022. In the meantime have a great, restful, Christmas and a happy new year.
Harry thanks for another great review ! i owned a 997 GT3 and I thought that was a hard ride (my Wife refused to go in it !). This sounds even harsher, so not a car for me. Ill stick with my 964 C2 !
I also had a 997.2 GT3 and after nine years of ownership came to the same conclusion! I now have a Turbo which is so much happier on the road plus my wife wants to go in it !!
Harry capture the owner perspective in his reviews and few journalist do that ,,,, there has been a debate about the harsh suspension in 992 GT3 and that is a serious set back ,,,,,thank you Harry for the review
Great real world review, something most of the car magazines completely miss as they test them on perfect circuits or roads around the Black Forest. I am sticking with my 991.2 gt3, think it’s the perfect compromise between fast road and a great circuit car, but not compromised on either. I guess whilst Porsche focus in lap times for each gt3 product the time was also ways going to come where it became too focused as a road car, and the 992 generation seems to be it.
@@harrysgarage it’s a keeper, and with no roll cage for better luggage, pdk, ceramics, and switched to Michelin PS4’s it’s a great all rounder year round.
Since I own a 991/2 Gen GT3 and having now driven the 992 GT3 there is no way I'd swap mine to get into the 992. This is the first GT3 I'd have to have transported to the circuit for track days if the journey was any more than 20 miles. It's not only the harsh suspension but the steering is too frenetic for me and the best bit which is arguably the engine is in all important aspects exactly the same in both cars. All this said a friend of mine swears by the 992 version but then he is a racing driver!
Great review as usual. I owned a 981 GT4 for about 3 1/2 years. Loved it, but sold it in April, wanted to have a less track orientated car. Have a 992 on order. Missing the GT4, but looking forward to a more comfortable road orientated Porsche sports car.
@@lollypop9580 Hi, I’ve had two 981 Caymans - a new base Cayman with PDK and then the GT4. Although the GTS is a wonderful car, I’ve never owned a 911 and it’s intended use is for touring etc. I do miss the GT4, sounds amazing, light weight carbon seats etc. Only 8000 miles when I sold it - it had 1800 miles when I bought it.
Those speedbumps should be banned, most normal folk just pile over them in suvs wheels either side at whatever speed they want but low cars get a free sump delete doing that 😳
So it's another 'race car for the road' with a familiar catch 22 - using it 10/10 on track means trailering it around, but then you have to wonder whether a track special car makes more sense 🤔
thanks for laying down the Porsche business model, Harry . best to you and yours for Christmas & the New Year - always look forward to Harry's garage & Harry's farm
I always thought the 996 GT3 & Cayman GT4 were both far too stiff for UK roads. Seems the 992 is even worse... is the 997.2 GT2 massively under appreciated in comparison?
The whole 'invited to buy if you have already bought Porsches thing is absolutely why I disagree with Porsche following the wanky Ferrari customer mantra. Awful behaviour. The £100k instant premium proves that invite only decision doesn't work, and only fuels the 911 tax. Whatever happened to being the first come, first served? I don't want a car company to choose me to buy their car, I am the customer and I am always 'right'.
That seems to be only a UK thing. In germany for example, you can just order them at the normal rate. Some dealerships have allocations on offer. You can change the spec if you wish untill the deadline is reached before productionstart
It’s much more an issue with U.K. dealers than Porsche themselves although they could allocate more RHD U.K. cars as the demand is there. Maybe it’s to keep the residual values of their cars higher I really don’t know
The car may be about a driving experience, but the business model is about flattering egos. It's a shite way to do business.
They're doing that in the US too. Unless you're a really high end VIP you're not getting a 992 GT3 or GT4 RS. At least two dealerships i talked to said they're taking the rest of the allocations and loading them up and then it's FCFS
IMV Porsche should not limit the production of the GT3. Limit the RS, R, Weissach for the "wanky Ferrari customer mantra". I wonder whether we'll ever see an economic climate like in 2005 when an OPC begged you to buy a 996.2 GT3 with a discount!
Some UA-camrs have lambos and no knowledge about cars and content turned toward them showing off. They have millions of views. Harry posting incredible content and feedback for years, on amazing cars . This man has an incredible knowledge and is very honest in his reviews and has only half a million followers. I don't understand people .
It's the same reason why highest quality (best researched, best written) newspapers have far less viewers than tabloid trash. There are only so many people who look for - and can correctly interpret - facts.
100%. You have wankers like Marcus on Auto Focus. I enjoy some of his content regarding computers but he has absolutely no car knowledge yet tons of views and comments stating how awesome his reviews are. I don't get it.
You can tell the difference between a car influencer and someone who just loves real world use from their cars. Harry, I agree entirely although I'd be interested in your opinion on the touring minus roll cage and wing. Less downforce and rigidity has got to be some improvement. Jams May was also right, the Nurburgring makes good track cars, but poor road cars
Not entirely true, Nurburging is harshest track for cars, so a car capable in Nurburging will have decent road usability....... GT3 is still a (racing) car for the road experience, if you want the 50/50 it's the GTS model, here where Harry got it wrong, Porsche made GTS more towards track driving this generation which gave it that 50/50 sort of usability, GT3 is sort of 70/30 while GT3RS will be sort of 80/20......
So Porsche did provide all kind of cars for every customer
@@TRX25EX i concur. Also worth adding the 992 Turbo S is now more like a GTS in terms of ride and handling whereby previous gen are softer. So Porsche seem to be sharpening up the entire range
@@TRX25EX The GTS is turbocharged and therefore undesireable compared to NA GT3 option.and it has maintained the same niche as previous generations. As I said, I think he needs to test the manual Touring to see if that matches his expectations more.
@@aerorobnz GTS have that NA flat 6 feel and interior sound to it, of course not as good as GT3 engine but good enough for a 50/50 car.....
As for Touring it's same as GT3 nothing will be different here, the problem is harshness as he said which can be fixed by getting GTS or Turbo S models that are known for that 50/50 in 992 generation, except Turbo provide that extra luxury also
Great review as always, this is the first road biased review that’s been done i feel. Which does point to the new cars downfalls, i’m sure a good set of dampers and adjustment could do the trick, but it’s not what you want from a brand new car.
To be honest, i was more interested in the 997 gt3, i hope there’s a video of that coming soon :)
God what a brilliant review, no fuss, straight to the point. Harry’s one of the best if not the best today. Please don’t miss the last 10 seconds. What an ending!!
IYO
What last 10 seconds?
Glad for the comment about the last 10secs!!
@@fotografkennethlund me with your mother
@@fotografkennethlund I know. What happened in the last 10 seconds?
Given it can sometimes seem obligatory to award an instant five stars to anything that comes out of Weissach, really glad to hear Harry's candour in this video about the car's shortcomings on rural British roads. Glorious though that powerplant sounds!
Noisy, uncomfortable, tramlines for fun....and still people pay over the odds for one. Should listen to Harry before buying.
Harry still the main man , a presenter who knows what he’s talking about, never biased, just honest appraisals.
@20:56 I wonder who that could be in a beautiful red Citroen BX GTI 16v
Ha, more youtubers use that road than I've had Hot dinners
I did notice a photographer at the side of the road and pondered what he might be photographing . A few moments later, I spotted a red Citroen BX and guessed that might have been it! Small world..
@@harrysgarage GETTING SMALLER
So it was Harry's "favourite piece of road" I spotted in one of your recent videos.
The BX being described as beautiful, very much proves the "eye of the beholder" proverb.
Long -time petrol head a collector here. Your excellent, mature, clear, concise, and information-packed review is truly a breath of fresh air. After watching your video I feel like I had a somewhat thorough presentation of the car. No stupid jokes, tattoos, sloppy attire, non-funny skits - just the car facts. Bravo !!!
I appreciate the honesty in this review. The pros and cons. Some reviews go on and on how great things are with no mention of real world issues, like the steering darting around due to the camber
Dear Harry,
You are the pinnacle of any honest review of a beautiful vehicle 🙏🙌
Love this man's clear headed assessment. As someone who own's 2 Porsches, the Gt-3 is way too stiff and noisy for the average driver. Maybe it's great for the track, but it's really annoying on the road. And we have really good roads in Colorado. But even on good roads, you can't hear your self think, let alone answer a phone call.
Yeah, he's spot on!!!
991.2 was better for the road
I don't think the average driver will be purchasing a Gt-3...
No good to me, I want to be able to hear my music!
@@JJR_77 I think that’s down to the crazy lack of available allocation in the UK, don’t know about the USA.
Possible to get a full review of the 997.2 GT3 as sort of a "modern classic" and how it feels/drives compared to current cars?
Thank you for this provably accurate and brutally honest review of the 992 GT3. Your exposure of the 992 GT3 ridiculously low ground clearance due to the frames around the newly designed air flow vents successfully REDUCES the ground clearance by more than 1 inch from the already extremely low 991.2 GT3 RS. With only a 3" ground clearance, this low ground clearance seriously gives me second thoughts about owning a 992 GT3. The 3" ground clearance is absolutely un-drivable in any US city. That restaurant driveway would have been unnavigable even if the car had the front lift system! The hydrolic lift system only adds another 1" to the ground clearance. Prospective GT3 and GT3 RS owners should see this as a huge deal breaker. The other setbacks including the steering wheel movements and the noise, to me those are part of the experience of driving a more track focused model and I would enjoy that as part of the intense, visceral experience. But the 3" ground clearance issue is a huge deal breaker unless the front lift system adds at least 2" instead of 1". What are your thoughts on this?
As a person who has owned many cars ranging from r8s', 720s', 992 Turbo S', etc. All I can say is take a driveway near perpendicular and you will be fine. I currently have a GT3 on order with a March build date, and while I will say the 3 inch clearance is low, the FAL gives another 40mm of clearance; putting the car at the same front height as something like a new c63 or m4. Moreover, knowing a few people who got their hands on 992 GT3's already - none have posed it as an issue as long as your cautious entering roads
Merry Christmas to you Harry and to all your family. Thank you for all the great videos this year.
You’re a legend Harry, thanks for this honest review on the 992 GT3. Being based in the UK, and owning a 981 GT4… like you, 95% of my driving is on UK roads. The car has to suit the occasion, and I totally get your well expressed thoughts in this video. Merry XMAS!
Fellow 981 GT4 owner here! I think the 991.2 GT3 is the peak and my dream car. Adore the GT4 though!
Find the 981 GT4 way more rigid and harsher than the new GT3 , even ground clearance is about 3.5 cm better on the GT3 without the FAL , 9 vs 12.5 cm
Would be great Max if you have a chance to try one and compare them
Harry's reviews are some of the best
The GT3 is all about the engine and manual gearbox. I must admit this is the first review I have seen where it's been driven on ordinary roads. In Australia with it's coarse chip bitumen and heavily cambered roads this would be a nightmare. Condensation inside the lights on a Porsche? Can't open the engine cover? Thanks Harry for the excellent review.
I've driven GT3s in Aus and NZ and they're fantastic. Yes, they're firm. But you could absolutely daily a GT3
Nice to see a genuine road review! The 992 is growing on me but I still prefer the 991 visually for sure!
Same
The 992 is very 959 in stance for me. I like it somedays more, usually not though. Very bulky.
Some nice 991 touring for sale in germany. Low milage. 10-15.000 km. I would gladly give one a loving good home…🤤
For sure, the 991 gen is the by far the best looking gt3 (and best sounding too)
@@salvi1398 some of the sound difference is down to the EEC noise and emission regulations on the 992 so not attributable to Porsche.
I recently sold my 991.1 RS and deposited on a Turbo S, as like you I mainly do road driving I am really pleased to hear your praise for the Turbo S
That's the great thing about your content, you are not afraid to say it how it is. What more can we ask for in this day and age. Merry Christmas Harry, thanks for all your content & thank you for making a difficult year just that bit easier to endure. Cheers Si
There's a reason Porsche wanted you to test drive it on track, Harry. Another great video and review, many thanks and Happy Christmas!
The speed at which the car kicked down and took off is truly frightening
Why do we watch Harry. Complete honesty.not someone who is stuck up a manufacturers rear like some UA-camrs,
Another epic video, Merry Christmas Harry and Family ❤️
Even though the answer is: it's pretty awful as a road car.
It seems Porsche, like many companies now a days, became obsessed with Nürburgring lap times and forgot that for most people 99% of the miles will be on the road
That induction noise; almost emphasised by this being a road based review. Certainly brought a grin to my face when watching this video. Strange that the GT3 has been calibrated to be so harsh and focussed when they have headroom for that behaviour for the RS version. Still, a cracking car and one that I would love to be in a position to own one day.
Awesome sound.
This 992 GT3 looks as track-focused as the previous (991) GT3 RS, with slighlty better performance even. Incredible car... what will the 992 GT3 RS be? ;-) Edit: pretty much what Harry said at 22:10.
I love this GT3 for its raw, driving on the edge, NA engine power, but I'd most likely lean towards an optioned up 911 Turbo
Harry is a true enthusiast. And highly knowledgeable and so detail oriented. Such a pleasure watching his superb videos on this and other channels. Fantastic quality.
Thank you for offering such a different perspective from all the other GT3 reviews out there.
This car is clearly an absolute juggernaut on track but is quite heavily flawed as a road car
Tyrrells Classic Workshop just thanked Harry for his help to start up an YT, while testing Harry´s Espada. While I was watching Ian giving Harry´s Espada the beans, I go a notification about Harray´s Garage. We don´t deserve this kind of gold!
Both amazing channels and free entertainment to us !
Great video Harry. I am lucky to have driven 5000 miles in my 992GT3 now and I’ve enjoyed every single minute. The suspension is harsh in both tge sport and track settings (on the road), but you can reconfigure “Sport” mode with “Normal” suspension. This delivers the best road setting I find. You then have the Sport engine map, Sport PDK mode and softest suspension. Set up like this, the car is a joy to drive down my local B roads.
Thats great info Mark it would be interesting to have had Harry’s thoughts based on having the suspension in the normal mode as opposed to sport or track he did look like he tried to find a softer setting however obviously didn’t dig deep enough into the set up settings
So did you pay the £100k premium, or were you one of the lucky ones allocated the car?
@@SS-oj4en there's not a lot of difference in the damper settings, Sport to Track just tightens them slightly. This car reviewed here is not representative of how 992 GT3s drive, but I think the Cup2 tyres haven't helped. Mine is on PZERO Corsa and it drives amazingly well, no tramlining (my M2 is worse), and cabin noise is not particularly bad either. Cruises effortlessly too.
Have we forgotten cars are meant to be used on roads not tracks and meant to be attainable without special permission🙁
As a car nut I find myself being turned off, the new breed of super cars and reminds me why I still love my 997 and 987.
First and only UA-camr to be honest about the new GT3! Everyone else is just fuelling the hype.
Glad to hear my TVR isn't the only car with water in the lights! I find the 992's fake manual gear stick a bit cheesy. The engine is epic!
Harry, you explained my fears exactly...
It is perhaps one step too extreme in being a 50/50 road/track car.
Very good video, as always !
*to being a 50/50
It is NOT extreme being 50/50 as it's a GT3 which is what the car is about :) The most extreme part is getting in to the carbon buckets seats.
Because Harry doesn't gush and squeal in every, single, car he drives like some reviewers, you tend to sit up and pay attention when he DOES get excited. Another great review!
We need a “Harry reacting to Acceleration” compilation! Your reaction, despite being accustomed to the fastest cars in the world, is always of surprise and it’s gold!
Harry that was so funny, about 15 minutes of semi-grumbling about ride comfort, lack of ground clearance, noise levels, the fact that it's not quite as usable as you'd like, condensation in the headlamps, then you put your foot down, screamed all the way to 9,000rpm and all of those grumbles just melted away, your face lit up and you were in love with it. Truly you are one of us, a proper petrol head! A very balanced and realistic final judgement though, quite refreshing to hear that viewpoint.
I bloody knew it was you filming! I'm in the last van at 20:02 😂
Also spotted JayEmm stood on a corner down the road from there!
Honest car reviews are a very rare thing. Thank you Harry for providing substantial in-depth analysis.
Loved this! Thanks for another 12 months of automotive experiences! Have a great Christmas - thanks Harry!
I don’t think I‘ve ever heard Harry saying that he was NOT looking forward to drive a car. Makes you wonder why he is the only one mentioning this. Maybe some youtubers have better cinematography, but Harry is the true car reviewer and the only opinion that actually bears any weight. Thanks for the video!
Those vents are the same on the 997 GT3 and RS… they are blocked for legal reasons (spray and grit/rock blast) but are easily open by removing the blank and work. 👍
So nice to have an honest review of halo GT3 on road ..excellent
GT3 is a legend, have driven 996 & 997 versions, the 996 is I think the epitome of the GT3.
140k and condensation in the lights… if it was mine someone at Porsche would certainly know about it in no uncertain terms!!
Most light units aren’t sealed now.
I've owned 2 cayman's and they both had condensation in the lights as well. I think it's a case of "they all do that sir"
@@gbgt2 is this with the newest generation? my 987.2 has never had that issue and it's ten years old.
@@romulus_ Yes both were 718 (S and GTS 4.0 which is my current car)
Having watched lots of reviews of this and other cars, I have to say, well done, such a great presentation and interesting details. This is truely how to do a road review.
Not that its a decision im lucky enough to make but the more i read and watch about the current lineup i really see the GTS in either AWD or RWD depending on the climate you live in as the all-rounder king of the lineup. Especially with a manual, an AWD GTS really gives you a unique proposition as a sort of "manual" 992 Turbo/S with probably 98% of the real world performance. Great review as always Harry!! have a nice holiday
Finally a honest review. Most journalists are too scared to mention 911 dislikes.
Yes I watched a few video reviews of this car and the real world / life driving is hardly mentioned.
Great move by Harry in waiting so he could get a road review.
Just changed from a GT3 (991.2) to a GT3RS (991.2), GT3 was great on the road, completed the nc500 with my wife with no issues. The GT3RS is too fussy, as this new 992, to the point it becomes distracting. Seriously thinking about getting back to the normal GT3! Love the reviews Harry.
Do it, I have kept my 991.2 gt3 and it’s a great road car
Cracking content Harry. Your ‘real world’ reviews are so relevant to us in the UK where the roads are; at best; shockingly poor. The hype behind so many super cars hides the reality of day to day driving especially when you’re paying a six figure sum for the privilege! Like many I can only dream of getting my hands on a 992 GT3 but I grasp the thrill of the engine as I own a 991.1 GTS. The sound you experience as the engine revs rise is intoxicating. Keep up the fabulous work, all the best for 2022.
What a monster. I could never live with that ride quality and if had the choice, would much prefer a plain vanilla 911 Turbo.
Harry has such knowledge and wisdom on cars and is such a natural on camera.
At last a real world view of the 992 GT3. Too track focused and harsh, I'm with you Harry the 911 Turbo S is the go to machine. This new GT 3 will only appear on track days and other times will sit in a collection. Thanks for a down to earth test and not one blinkered by boyish enthusiasm.
I've been avoiding every other UA-cam review of the 992 GT3 untill the GOAT, Mr Harry from the garage... Got his hands on one. Did not disappoint kind sir!!!!!
Great review. Rather have a Turbo S nowadays, which you can actually rake up the miles on. Besides, if you have to pay markup, a loaded Turbo S is actually cheaper than a base spec GT3! Arguably more of the same car for less money.
Harry your honesty is remarkable and refreshing
I love Harry's videos, I always learn something watching them. If I ever get back to the UK or he comes to Aus I would love the chance to talk to him for 5 minutes.
Great video Harry! Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the 991.2 GT3 compared to this. And/or maybe some other older GT cars. :)
His comments are clearly in relation to GT3’s of the past and 991.2 being the latest after the current; pretty clear the 991.2 was a better road car.
the honest reviews that this channel gives is worth a lot to the buyer and also the car maker compared to other channels
Great video again Harry. It is sad as the GT3 was always a road car that you could use on track and the RS was a track car you could use on the road. I have just finished reading EVO car of the year and they all felt the same about the Touring, which should be even more road biased, but I think it is the same set up. They did well not to chase ever higher power, but probably felt that the only way to ‘improve’ on the 991.2 was for a faster lap time. It’s a shame as GT3 have always been fantastic and very usable road cars
I owned a 996 GT3 and frankly it was less comfortable on the road than a 992 GT3. Neither the GT3 or GT3 RS have ever been satisfying daily drivers, except for very few hardcore owners. The RS always has more flash but almost never much faster on track. Like a fine instrument, any GT3 or RS will take a lifetime to master. And that's the point.
The best car reviews on current media full stop. You seem to talk far more sense than most of the other ‘Influencers’. I want to know what a vehicle is like in real world situations, not just melting tyres on a private track etc. Keep up the great work and have a wonderful Christmas.
Wow, steamed-up lenses. Are those a cost option on a Porsche? I got them for free on my Tesla 🙂
Terrific review Harry , you are now the expert that remains independent and honest about car reviews after decades of comparisons to relate to. So refreshing compared to so many other so called ‘internet influencers’ who I personally don’t find any where near as knowledgable. Keep it up for all us true petrol heads 👍🏻
They nailed the 991.2 GT3. Both in performance and aesthetics. The 992 could be tamed with different dampers and springs. A proper "street" alignment would also do wonders. It's never going to be as pretty though.
the dampers already are adjustable, aren't they? Should be possible to tune it more for the street without replacing any parts
Wow I was really surprised by the sound when Harry floored it a little at 15:32. Amazing !
The 992 GT3 Touring didn’t fare particularly well in EVO Car of the Year group test either. If they’d put the GT3 engine in the GTS, it would have solved the problem and created a nice road car with the special engine. Nice review Harry.
They also said the front end on the touring felt very different to the proper gt3 they tested a coupe of issues back. That gt3 also beat the McLaren 600LT and GTR Nismo, both ecoty winners. That review made it sound like the 992 GT3 is the most exciting thing ever. I wonder if the (adjustable) suspension on that car has several different set ups out in the wild, with some working much better on road.
Everyone else who’s reviewed the touring thinks it’s absolutely superb. The car they seemed to test didn’t behave in the same ways that others had experienced.
@@napalmhotdog4365 yes it’s odd the Touring in EVO that was tested in Scotland (and driven there and back) didn’t perform well, but it does now seem to corroborate with Harry’s views here. Very dependent on the type of road.
Eco did a car of the year 2021?
@@porsche911fan2 yes, in the current issue of EVO magazine.
Great commentary, most of the shots were nicely framed and in focus.
Sounds like Porsche engineers should incorporate your favourite bit of road for their road testing…
Hopefully the engine gets used in a few other variants which are more suitable for road driving.
German performance cars have been way too stiff for decades.
Thank you for another enjoyable Sunday watch Harry. It is so nice to see someone give an everyday perspective of owning such a special car, and to be able to freely speak your mind instead of being mesmerized by the engine or, even worse, brownosing Porsche, is really delightful.
I'm sure they have done a long test on road developing this GT3 but it needs to be extended to B roads aswell otherwise its unreallistic. Like you said, they have the GT3 RS for that.thanks for another great video Harry!
Cheers from Portugal
Get a 992S or a Boxster GTS 4.0 for enjoying B roads. Manual if you are able. Drive your GT3 on B roads to get to the track.
Wonderful review Merry Christmas from down under 🇦🇺 Harry & family 🌲👍
What we’ve all been waiting for!! 👌🏼👌🏼
Fantastic video. Harry is just the most enthusiastic, articulate, and knowledgeable guy. Legend 👏🙏🏼
i remember getting well pissed with condensated inside headlights on my 2008 GTD golf id spent good money on (in 2012) so id be furious with that on the porshe haha
So many journalists just rave on about the 9000 red line. Love your honest review.
Condensation hasn't cleared in the tail lights in a week? Man I'd be pissed
Probably the best ad I’ve seen for a 997 GT3, lol. Thanks for the content as ever Harry. Happy New Year!
About time for a new Harry's Farm vid??? :)
They made this for journalists and for the Nürburgring times, not for the person that's supposed to live with it. I love the fact that it's N/A, sounds amazing!
This is the best review of the new gt3 by a mile. Harry you are The GOAT of this game of cars.
Every time I see a youtuber using your piece of road for their videos makes me laugh.
Harry, the first video I saw with you was on drive tribe when you and Richard were reunited with the Ferrari 550. Since then I've really enjoyed your channel and your videos, so keep up the great content!
Great observations, fantastic car but I'd not choose it over a Turbo S.
i would have both
My favourite car guy in my favourite car. What a joy to watch. Thanks for all you do for your fans Harry. Merry Christmas to you and yours
This has always been my dream car but now I wouldn’t want it, too noisy for driving on the roads. In fairness they’ll mostly be used on track but I always thought the RS was for that and the standard GT3 more road oriented.
I have to say I have similar thoughts. Has anyone done a review of how much the Touring spec changes these characteristics? I assume a ClubSport GT3 is the most “RS” of the GT3s? Am certainly curious, as from what Harry describes it doesn’t seem like this car would be an even tolerable daily.
@@skendler The touring is basically the same car. Personally I think the 992 GTS would be a much better choice as a pure road car (it's quicker than you would ever need and probably quicker than a GT3 in the real world). Although obviously it doesn't have that epic NA engine.
Hope you know how much we appreciate all your good work Harry. I have a 20 year old Lexus which refuses to die, 2 small kids and a hatred of Netflix so all that keeps me going sometimes is seeing what car you recommend I buy when I win the lottery. Right now I am thinking a Rapide.
First one I know of to mention the harshness. Never afraid to tell the truth. This is what separates you from the rest, Harry. Cheers to you.
Another great review from Harry. What an absolutely beautiful place to live as well.
I had a previous generation of 911 and I ended up selling it. Those cars are magnificient on a perfect country road but are a pain on a normal 'potholed' city street. Because of that I was using it only a few thousands miles per year.
The engine song is like the sound track from the movie Le Mans. Thx for sharing!!
First 911 I wouldn’t want to own. It’s an amazing track tool but these cars were build from the beginning to be a “do it all” road car. I’d have the GTS or Turbo S in a snap over this one and save a ton of coin. Still loved the review though, Harry!!
turbo s is more expensive though lol
Thanks for everything you have posted in 2021. I look forward to seeing what's coming in 2022. In the meantime have a great, restful, Christmas and a happy new year.
Harry thanks for another great review ! i owned a 997 GT3 and I thought that was a hard ride (my Wife refused to go in it !). This sounds even harsher, so not a car for me. Ill stick with my 964 C2 !
Your father did so much for the cinéma. 👍
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I also had a 997.2 GT3 and after nine years of ownership came to the same conclusion! I now have a Turbo which is so much happier on the road plus my wife wants to go in it !!
Harry capture the owner perspective in his reviews and few journalist do that ,,,, there has been a debate about the harsh suspension in 992 GT3 and that is a serious set back ,,,,,thank you Harry for the review
Great real world review, something most of the car magazines completely miss as they test them on perfect circuits or roads around the Black Forest. I am sticking with my 991.2 gt3, think it’s the perfect compromise between fast road and a great circuit car, but not compromised on either. I guess whilst Porsche focus in lap times for each gt3 product the time was also ways going to come where it became too focused as a road car, and the 992 generation seems to be it.
That version of GT3 is mega. No way would I swap it into the 992 GT3, unless I'm mainly going to drive it on track. PDK suits it perfectly too.
@@harrysgarage it’s a keeper, and with no roll cage for better luggage, pdk, ceramics, and switched to Michelin PS4’s it’s a great all rounder year round.
@@harrysgarage Yes, but the manual...mmmmmmmm!
Since I own a 991/2 Gen GT3 and having now driven the 992 GT3 there is no way I'd swap mine to get into the 992. This is the first GT3 I'd have to have transported to the circuit for track days if the journey was any more than 20 miles. It's not only the harsh suspension but the steering is too frenetic for me and the best bit which is arguably the engine is in all important aspects exactly the same in both cars. All this said a friend of mine swears by the 992 version but then he is a racing driver!
This is the best review I've seen of the 992 GT3 to date. Proper.
Great review as usual. I owned a 981 GT4 for about 3 1/2 years. Loved it, but sold it in April, wanted to have a less track orientated car. Have a 992 on order. Missing the GT4, but looking forward to a more comfortable road orientated Porsche sports car.
A bit too Big the 992 ? Was the 982 gts not an option ?
What type of 992 ?
@@hpman911 Hi Jonathan, I’m getting a base 992 in GT silver with sports exhaust, Carrera Classic wheels, sports chrono, sunshine roof, Bose etc.
@@lollypop9580 Hi, I’ve had two 981 Caymans - a new base Cayman with PDK and then the GT4. Although the GTS is a wonderful car, I’ve never owned a 911 and it’s intended use is for touring etc. I do miss the GT4, sounds amazing, light weight carbon seats etc. Only 8000 miles when I sold it - it had 1800 miles when I bought it.
@@marklawrence9416 Great enjoy!
Great video, always enjoy your honest and simple style. Finally subscribed to the channel after watching for years.
Those speedbumps should be banned, most normal folk just pile over them in suvs wheels either side at whatever speed they want but low cars get a free sump delete doing that 😳
They delay emergency response vehicles too. Should have done away with them long ago.
Love the balanced review with a focus on 'real world' driving/ownership. Great videos, please keep them coming 👍
So it's another 'race car for the road' with a familiar catch 22 - using it 10/10 on track means trailering it around, but then you have to wonder whether a track special car makes more sense 🤔
thanks for laying down the Porsche business model, Harry . best to you and yours for Christmas & the New Year - always look forward to Harry's garage & Harry's farm
I always thought the 996 GT3 & Cayman GT4 were both far too stiff for UK roads. Seems the 992 is even worse... is the 997.2 GT2 massively under appreciated in comparison?
Yes