@@MrLTiger don't make it too obvious you abandoned education as soon as you could lmao or are you still at the age that you still think teachers are non-humans who sleep in coffins all summer long?
Luciano's growth is probably the biggest thing in this series. He may have been arrogant, and even impatient at times, but he was smart enough to take in new lessons. This was one of those rare times he almost let his anger get the better of him, had he not listened to Meyer, it could have gotten ugly. Having these experiences with people, even people he thought he could trust, ended up being big learning curves for him, and unlike many others, he was lucky - no pun intended - that he did not end up in Rothstein's bad books.
Everyone was in character so nicely here. Rothstein generally kept his cards close to his chest but I feel like Charlie's little explosion here would have been nicely met by the following exchange: Charlie: "You didn't lift a finger. You sit behind your desk... MAKING PHONE CALLS!! I'm out there in the real world!!!" Rothstein: "Would you like me to make a phone call to decide what happens to you next?" But to not engage him is also very potent. Charlie is out on a limb here, he doesn't have much to stand on if Rothstein doesn't engage him. Charlie is 100% in the right, but Rothstein doesn't have to explain himself to Arnold, Arnold simply benefits from the fact that Charlie can't do anything about it in the moment.
@@podshoh22 it makes plenty of sense. The concept of betrayal is 2 fold. It’s not only just disappointment but it’s that someone who is supposed not disappoint you, actually does it.
"All this time I thought I had some Civilizing effect, but there is only so much you can teach a person, until you reach the limits of his capabilities" - Rothstein
A lot of what made Luciano was the people around him.. he was a little bit of Arnold Rothstein, a little bit Paul Kelly, a little bit Masseria.. plus he initiated marinsano's plans for a family layout.
@@bryanl3452 that's very true, it's like he absorbed the current affairs and new ideas of the time and was fortunate enough (or talented enough) to put them into place successfully. A lot of people died before the mob became what it became, it was a very long process
Because he's angry but extremely aware of who he's talking to. A perfect foil for Lucky who gets angry and doesn't give a fuck about who he's talking to.
On the surface Rothstein is well-spoken and has good manners. BUT, you can see it in his eyes, his sociopathic and murderous nature are boiling just underneath that skin. Unreal acting and my all-time favorite BE character by far.
I agreed maan!;) and i personaly love the guy that plays myer lansky... In this scence. I just soo love how myer lansky uses his brain right away in situations like this.... Speaking truthfuly. In real life. Is true. Myer lansky was short. But hes heart aannd mind. Was unlimited. Maan!;) thats why he lasted for soo long. He always uses hes best weapon. Hes mind!;) no gun no nife. Just hes mind. .. He was a brilliant man!;)
@@The_OneManCrowd if Jimmy wanted him dezth he would have been death. A.R. his money is why they tolerate him, and A.R. know how to play with it. But he is no real gangster. Nor a tragic figure. Luciano outsmarted him at the end with Lansky.
I don't know why, but I found Rothstein's facial expressions hilarious when Charlie was yelling at him XD He was like "Did you srsly learn NOTHING from me?"
Mayer showing his Genius, knowing the situation they are in "Charlie if you don't shut up we are both dead, YES!?". Showing his manipulation skills. Making Charlie think clearly right away and make him understand they have 2 take it and there is no other option. All with just saying YES! Charlie also turning his anger into despair. That was the breaking point when Charlie realizes his loyalty 2 Rothstein means nothing. Its every man for himself & Power Great acting by this 2 guys in this scene
You're honestly telling me that you think he was a "genius" for that? you're telling me you think meyer was a genius because he knew they were cornered? really? I mean, he had plenty of "genius" moments in the show but this is not one of them.
@@patrickstarshooter5221 just now seeing this. He's genius for knowing what words exactly to get through to Luciano. When you end a question with yes. You are already manipulating the other person into agreeing with you. You've answered for them. Instead of thinking about what you say before, they are thinking about the confirmation. It no longer feels like being told to calm down, or being told this is the outcome, it's being told, you already agree with me and this is your decision, you just haven't come to it yet. It resets what their mind is focusing on. It reshifts the focus from AR to do I agree with my friend. Which is why that, shit he's right face was there. It is a genius tactic, don't think it's not just because the guy who brought it up was bad at explaining it.
@@bolch88bb8 The flash back scenes were a little bit off putting to start with but they work toward an excellent ending, which made them all worth while. It was great imo EDIT: Got to the end before catching any spoilers and I really enjoyed it. I wish the show got a longer running though, and we got to see the years in between season 4-5 spread over a few more seasons. But considering this is the hand they were dealt, one more season, only 8 episodes, they did a sterling job,.
This scene sets up everything in season 5 perfectly it makes lucianos rise so much more satisfying they try to make him a villain but you cant help but root for him
Robert Fernandez yes it was around but Luciano is the one who created the Commission and the 5 Families with the governing rules that is still around today.
no erick, you are wrong. He simply abolished the title of 'boss of bosses' and made a ruling panel of top leaders from around the country to take votes on important matters. he didnt fucking "invent" the mafia. it has been a round for hundreds of years in italy and since the late 1800s in the USA.
He always understood business better. He knew the distinction between legitimate business and illegal business and put himself right in between. (In real life, not the show)
Like Nucky told Meyer "I can't do business with a man who's too obsessed with winning". Or so hyper egotistical that he's not even willing to allow his students to progress out of his tutelage upon their own prosperity.
I can't be the only one who finds Michael Stuhlbarg's eyes absolutely fucking stunning. On a more serious note, his performance as AR has got to be one of my favourites in the whole show.
+ELSingleton22 Yes...when I first started watching Boardwalk Empire and saw the character Rothstein, I thought he looked vaguely familiar. Finally I realized this was the meek little mathematics professor in "A Serious Man'...what acting chops Stuhlberg has.
Tony Soprano’s father said it right....never be a degenerate gambler. He was right. As smart as Rothstein was....he never learned that. Like Wild Bill he took a bullet at the poker table.
Really like the A.R./Luciano patnership. Hope they don't dissolve it any time soon. Arnold really scares me though (2nd only to Mr. Rosetti). I mean, we've been exposed to the violent nature of other men in the show save for A.R.'s. His cool demeanor is obviously meant to disarm his opponents but - still waters run deep. I think he also has to think 5 steps ahead to stay in the game and stay cool. I think Lucky worships him but hates his patient approach to deals. I love their many contrasts.
That doesn't really explain him and Meyer since they never betrayed each other. And A.R. also is betraying Meyer here too. Doesn't really fit with what Joe said.
Probably because Masseria betrayed Charlie so he'd be more willing to take the insults. But Charlie was going behind Rothstein's back so insulting him is not getting even. It's a new offense.
It's basically short for "You agree with me, don't you?". It's a rhetorical trick to say something and get the other person to think about it like it's their own idea.
Luvie1980 it's a part of his character, but not by accident. He doesn't say it out of habit; he says it purposefully every single time for a specific reason. Psychology works wonders.
@@CronoXpono That's actually not what really happened. If you remember, Lucky and Meyer came to Rothstein first with this deal, all the way back in season 2 actually. They told him that they were planning of going into the heroin business and they were the reason why A.R. realized just how much money there was to be made with heroin. Then in season 3 they wanted to expand their operation and asked A.R. to invest 100,000 $ ( which is like over 2,000,000 $ in today's money ) but Rothstein refused, telling them that he likes the idea but the time is not right. It's because he knew that Lucky won't just sit on his ass and wait for Rothstein to decide when the time is right, A.R. knew that the only man Lucky could turn to for financial backing and protection was Masseria, he counted on Lucky and Meyer going to Masseria and he already planned to screw them over and get in business with Joe "The Boss" Masseria. He used Lucky and Meyer to 1. Get into heroin business. 2. Get into the heroin business with their heroin thus not having to invest his own money. 3. Form an alliance with Masseria and in the process remove Lucky and Meyer from the entire thing, thus preventing them from getting too powerful to one day rival him ( which he failed to do as we all know ). In short, A.R. was a piece of shit in this show... and probably in real life as well.
@@MrDarkkamui You really over complicated that. AR didn't give a flying fuck about Joe. He was trying to teach them a valuable lesson on the street and business. Remember he was their mentor in real life.
"All this time I thought I had some Civilizing effect, but there is only so much you can teach a person, until you reach the limits of his capabilities" - Rothstein regarding Charlie You need a better scout team Mr. Rothstein.
He told them not to try the Heroin thing, but they thought if they borrowed money from his rival Masseria they could strike out on their own. Rothstein suspected this and had their heroin taken by corrupt cops under his control after they spent all the money and there was no way for them to get it back. He then used the captured heroin to force Masseria to end any potential hostility between them. So without costing him a penny he was now going to make a ton of cash in the drug business and he's nipped a potential gang war in the bud and reminded his two underlings that he is not someone to be trifled with.
Meanwhile things like Evil Dead and Supernatural just go on and on and on. It's a damn shame we didn't get more Boardwalk. There was so much potential in the years between 4 and 5
I love this scene, the way that the older generation of Jewish/italian gangsters seem to "teach" the younger generation about race, Rothstein essentially tosses Charlie aside for Meyer because hes too hot blooded and not as calculated about business, meanwhile Masseria feels bad for Charlie being used by Rothstein the way he looks like at Lucky when he says "he set me up" and is almost like "I told you, you cant trust these people," and then at the end of this scene and next season, seemingly everyone goes back to their "place" The jewish kid with the jewish gangster and Lucky with Masseria. And AR/Masseria think they taught a lesson. Meanwhile Lucky and Meyer didnt care at all about Race, they looked beyond it and secretly started working to set up the biggest criminal organization of all time.
I think a younger Siegel before he got to Hollywood would win. He was definitely a crazy motherfucker mentally. He was also in great shape physically by working out daily.
"Sit behind your fuckin' desk, makin phone calls! I'm out there in the fuckin' world." My feelings towards every school administrator I ever had.
🤣🤣
grow up kid. there is more to the world than school
@@MrLTiger OP sounds like a teacher, not a student.
@@MrLTiger don't make it too obvious you abandoned education as soon as you could lmao
or are you still at the age that you still think teachers are non-humans who sleep in coffins all summer long?
Your school administrator made their own phone calls?
Luciano's growth is probably the biggest thing in this series. He may have been arrogant, and even impatient at times, but he was smart enough to take in new lessons. This was one of those rare times he almost let his anger get the better of him, had he not listened to Meyer, it could have gotten ugly. Having these experiences with people, even people he thought he could trust, ended up being big learning curves for him, and unlike many others, he was lucky - no pun intended - that he did not end up in Rothstein's bad books.
Everyone was in character so nicely here. Rothstein generally kept his cards close to his chest but I feel like Charlie's little explosion here would have been nicely met by the following exchange:
Charlie: "You didn't lift a finger. You sit behind your desk... MAKING PHONE CALLS!! I'm out there in the real world!!!"
Rothstein: "Would you like me to make a phone call to decide what happens to you next?"
But to not engage him is also very potent. Charlie is out on a limb here, he doesn't have much to stand on if Rothstein doesn't engage him. Charlie is 100% in the right, but Rothstein doesn't have to explain himself to Arnold, Arnold simply benefits from the fact that Charlie can't do anything about it in the moment.
"The saddest thing about betrayal is that it never come from your enemy."
DUH
Depends on if your girl sleeps with them, that's a double 🤔 😬🤬🌋🚄🚆☄🔥🌊🌀🌑
@@the__________ makes no sense lol
@@podshoh22 it makes plenty of sense. The concept of betrayal is 2 fold. It’s not only just disappointment but it’s that someone who is supposed not disappoint you, actually does it.
@@podshoh22 you guys are making the same point, he just has a weirder way of explaining it.
"All this time I thought I had some Civilizing effect, but there is only so much you can teach a person, until you reach the limits of his capabilities" - Rothstein
Yessir Yessir he was wrong about Charlie.
They had no idea who Luciano was going to become. A fucking icon. Even the government had to show this man respect because of how slick he was.
A lot of what made Luciano was the people around him.. he was a little bit of Arnold Rothstein, a little bit Paul Kelly, a little bit Masseria.. plus he initiated marinsano's plans for a family layout.
@@bryanl3452 that's very true, it's like he absorbed the current affairs and new ideas of the time and was fortunate enough (or talented enough) to put them into place successfully. A lot of people died before the mob became what it became, it was a very long process
Also Lucky Luciano did a lot of good for this country during WW2, but you won’t read about that in any fucking history book.
@@DennisBTV nor should you, the guy murdered people for profit and personal gain, that’s a cross for anyone in this world much less a gangster loser.
@@DennisBTV Why should you read about supporting individuals in a history book? That's so stupid :D
" if I may enquire, how did you obtain that?" Angry yet eloquent
Because he's angry but extremely aware of who he's talking to. A perfect foil for Lucky who gets angry and doesn't give a fuck about who he's talking to.
Rothstein showed Lucky a lesson in the underworld business. Amazing how Lucky later became a legend in that same business.
Failure is the best teacher.
Luciano becomes more than Rothstein and Masseria could ever dream.
A man living in exile?
Better than two dead men
Living in exile with money and power that is
+Tyrion Dosh but meyer becomes the silent perfect gangster.
because that's where his influence sways power.
Michael S. is sooooo good as Rothstein. He was made to play that role. Just incredible.
bmillerdrums I think the casting was spot on with all the characters
On the surface Rothstein is well-spoken and has good manners. BUT, you can see it in his eyes, his sociopathic and murderous nature are boiling just underneath that skin. Unreal acting and my all-time favorite BE character by far.
bmillerdrums Totally agree
I agreed maan!;) and i personaly love the guy that plays myer lansky... In this scence. I just soo love how myer lansky uses his brain right away in situations like this.... Speaking truthfuly. In real life. Is true. Myer lansky was short. But hes heart aannd mind. Was unlimited. Maan!;) thats why he lasted for soo long. He always uses hes best weapon. Hes mind!;) no gun no nife. Just hes mind. .. He was a brilliant man!;)
@@The_OneManCrowd if Jimmy wanted him dezth he would have been death. A.R. his money is why they tolerate him, and A.R. know how to play with it. But he is no real gangster. Nor a tragic figure. Luciano outsmarted him at the end with Lansky.
I don't know why, but I found Rothstein's facial expressions hilarious when Charlie was yelling at him XD
He was like "Did you srsly learn NOTHING from me?"
CAUSE THIS A HEROIN I PAID FOR WITH MY FOCKIN MONEY....BELONGS TO HIM.
*eroin
Fakan
-Meyer
-MAH-YAH
Haha! You can perceive the disdain and mocking in his voice.
Charles Ferdinand exactly lmao
"You can always file a complaint with the Department." The LOOK on Lansky's face!
The weird thing of that is there no assumption they because of that now are dead man walking
In this scene, when Luciano loses his temper , in his voice you can see why he transformed from street Gang leader to the commission boss
Mayer showing his Genius, knowing the situation they are in "Charlie if you don't shut up we are both dead, YES!?". Showing his manipulation skills. Making Charlie think clearly right away and make him understand they have 2 take it and there is no other option. All with just saying YES!
Charlie also turning his anger into despair. That was the breaking point when Charlie realizes his loyalty 2 Rothstein means nothing. Its every man for himself & Power
Great acting by this 2 guys in this scene
You're honestly telling me that you think he was a "genius" for that? you're telling me you think meyer was a genius because he knew they were cornered? really? I mean, he had plenty of "genius" moments in the show but this is not one of them.
That's not genius that's very fk obvious
@@elchicano1746 what very fucking obvious?
@@patrickstarshooter5221 just now seeing this. He's genius for knowing what words exactly to get through to Luciano. When you end a question with yes. You are already manipulating the other person into agreeing with you. You've answered for them. Instead of thinking about what you say before, they are thinking about the confirmation. It no longer feels like being told to calm down, or being told this is the outcome, it's being told, you already agree with me and this is your decision, you just haven't come to it yet. It resets what their mind is focusing on. It reshifts the focus from AR to do I agree with my friend. Which is why that, shit he's right face was there. It is a genius tactic, don't think it's not just because the guy who brought it up was bad at explaining it.
@@elchicano1746 It's called Common Sense
1:57 Lucky approaches Joe and then goes for AR. That says quite a lot I think.
“I sorry. I neva know your’ah name’ah.” “Meyer...” “Maya...” Funniest part in the entire series.
Idiot Savant lol it was so condescending
He tries to speak like a Sicilian?
@@bobfg3130
I think it’s more how condescending and dismissive Joe is toward Lansky.
"Mai-yah"
Lansky is stellar. I've never seen this actor before but he impresses.
Most underated show of our time!
donnibrasko1 I agree ! It’s my Favorite show next to Sopranos
Ausla Davis
You're just mad because Jimmy got whacked for being an ungrateful snake.
season 5 sucked balls with the fucking flash backs for nuckys life...but still this is POWERHOUSE acting from EVERY actor
@@bolch88bb8 The flash back scenes were a little bit off putting to start with but they work toward an excellent ending, which made them all worth while. It was great imo EDIT: Got to the end before catching any spoilers and I really enjoyed it. I wish the show got a longer running though, and we got to see the years in between season 4-5 spread over a few more seasons. But considering this is the hand they were dealt, one more season, only 8 episodes, they did a sterling job,.
First couple of seasons were gold then the writing got gradually more and more lazy
Michael stuhlbarg steals every scene he's in!
This is the moment when Charles Lucky Luciano decided to kill Masseria.
"YES!"... I love when Meyer says that.
What an amazing cast, all such fascinating performances in their own right
Ted Cruz is an amazing actor
Lucky's voice is amazing!
He worked for that!!!!
DobryMoorzan i
Realy??? Why? Please tell me? Im intread!;)
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You should hear the actor who plays Lucky voice is real life. Talk about your 180.
This scene sets up everything in season 5 perfectly it makes lucianos rise so much more satisfying they try to make him a villain but you cant help but root for him
Luciano wasn't being careful, learned from it though... Then became the founder of the American mafia.... Beautifully done son!!!!
Andrew Johnson The American Mafia was around before Luciano.
Luciano founded "the commission" which is the modern American Mafia
Robert Fernandez WRONG
Robert Fernandez yes it was around but Luciano is the one who created the Commission and the 5 Families with the governing rules that is still around today.
no erick, you are wrong. He simply abolished the title of 'boss of bosses' and made a ruling panel of top leaders from around the country to take votes on important matters. he didnt fucking "invent" the mafia. it has been a round for hundreds of years in italy and since the late 1800s in the USA.
Meyer always talking sense, always in control.
Yeaaa i agreeed!;)
He always understood business better. He knew the distinction between legitimate business and illegal business and put himself right in between. (In real life, not the show)
Lucianos face at 1:49, worth 1000 words.
I think this show is the goat! A thing of beauty! Everyone should bow to its greatness! And still underrated
“I’m out there in the fucking world”, very powerful line.
Facts.
I felt him on that!
Like Nucky told Meyer "I can't do business with a man who's too obsessed with winning". Or so hyper egotistical that he's not even willing to allow his students to progress out of his tutelage upon their own prosperity.
"In exchange for what?"
"Free World Series tickets."
I can't be the only one who finds Michael Stuhlbarg's eyes absolutely fucking stunning.
On a more serious note, his performance as AR has got to be one of my favourites in the whole show.
+ELSingleton22 Yes...when I first started watching Boardwalk Empire and saw the character Rothstein, I thought he looked vaguely familiar. Finally I realized this was the meek little mathematics professor in "A Serious Man'...what acting chops Stuhlberg has.
One of the few gangster shows that almost equaled The Godfather.
Rothstein thought he was the winner in all of this little did he know he was getting fucked over on all sides
Chucky Masciano how come?
Duncan W. Lievi its specilated AR was killed by Lucky
@@gas467 no it isnt
Tony Soprano’s father said it right....never be a degenerate gambler. He was right. As smart as Rothstein was....he never learned that. Like Wild Bill he took a bullet at the poker table.
Luciano gets the last laugh
Best scene in the show!!!! Arnold rothstein is the best character on the show!
character? You know these were real people, right?
Loved meyer! "We are dead. Yes!"
Rule number one dont under estimate the other guys greed!
Luciano goes Gyp Rosetti on AR.
Maaseria figured out he had to be partners with the govt so they all can get what they want . This guy is intelligent !
Really like the A.R./Luciano patnership. Hope they don't dissolve it any time soon. Arnold really scares me though (2nd only to Mr. Rosetti). I mean, we've been exposed to the violent nature of other men in the show save for A.R.'s. His cool demeanor is obviously meant to disarm his opponents but - still waters run deep. I think he also has to think 5 steps ahead to stay in the game and stay cool. I think Lucky worships him but hates his patient approach to deals. I love their many contrasts.
😂😂 always cracks the hell up how masseria says Meyer. "Maayya"
The beginning of the end for Joe the Boss!!
Great job Ivo Nandi did for the role of Joe Mazzeria
Charlie’s face at 3:10 says it all 😂
I thought the one dude was walking in with a cell phone in his hand for a second🤣
Lol.time traveler
I WUYUKKED FUH THAYT!!!!!!!
Hahahaha!!
So did AR literally just meet with them to rub in their face that he conned them?lol
"a buy-in at the world series of poker"
"wassssaaaaa deeeeeeeeissssss"
Lmao at how Joe the Boss says “Meyer”
AR is like Nas.
Meyer and Charles and Bugsy are like Migos.
Amazing actor - such great range. Played very milquetoast characters in Fargo and Steve Jobs
Fargo the movie or tv?
@@johnnyf8227 tv
I wish they put Rothstein’s death on screen.
I know s5 was a rushed mess
A great scene
Epic, Awesome clip !! Era-Biopic of what it took to thrive & survive. 👍👍
Meanwhile Charlie becomes boss of bosses and even has Joe the boss killed
In other words he knew how to speak and resolve the problem...
i thought masseria didnt do business with jews
He warned lucky that one day Arnold will betray him. Everyone sticks to their own kind. Lucky learned it first hand.
jeisa Jeis found the white dude.
@@semyaza555
Im a white dude. Fuck off.
That doesn't really explain him and Meyer since they never betrayed each other. And A.R. also is betraying Meyer here too. Doesn't really fit with what Joe said.
Straight up OG move
AR's last lesson for Charlie before he became the prince of darkness.
What was the lesson
That thing of yours became "that thing of ours" without you becoming one of us !A fucking offer meant to be refused !
He learned from both and made it netter
Spark the conversation, what do y'all think will be the story behind these guys next season? Who's your favourite character? Comment below
Vincent Piazza was soooo hot as Luciano.
this show deserved atleast another 5 fucking seasons. fuck HBO
Charlie = gets angry at Masseria, Meyer lets it go
Charlie = gets angry and starts coming at Rothstein
Meyer: Ok, boundaries are being crossed!
Probably because Masseria betrayed Charlie so he'd be more willing to take the insults. But Charlie was going behind Rothstein's back so insulting him is not getting even. It's a new offense.
I thought they would do a sequel with lucky in it still waiting
I’m out here in the fkn world
Hmmm...I note that in the background, it is a British royal coat of arms on the wall. I guess that might be in the pre USA building they were in.
I think Luciano's stage trick is that he can make his hair unkempt any time he wants
AR and Mayer were my favourites of the series. Reasonable men.
The whole series was well done. Really showed what it was like back a hundred years.
If we wanted reasonable characters we’d be watching Mad Men instead of BoardWalk Empire.
and the 5 families of la cosa nostea will soon begin....
Why does Meyer say yes after every question?
It's basically short for "You agree with me, don't you?". It's a rhetorical trick to say something and get the other person to think about it like it's their own idea.
Jakob Lindner I know what it means. I just wonder why he always says it. It's like a bad habit with him (the character).
Videos4N11 I thought it was just part of his character.
MEMEBOY22 gfP
Luvie1980 it's a part of his character, but not by accident. He doesn't say it out of habit; he says it purposefully every single time for a specific reason. Psychology works wonders.
What's Griffin the Archanan doing in this scene?
The Look Rothstein gives Masseria when he cussed 😂😂😂
why lucky kills all the bosses takes over
I like Mazerati. Nice accent.
Most important NY scene so far
Ironically Rothstein never learnt a valuable lesson himself about treachery and grudges....
Didnt anybody tell Luciano that the woyking man is a sucka'
He wasted all his talent....
Mayaaa
can someone explain exactly what Rothstien did and the point he was trying to prove ?
If I remember correctly, he found they were going behind his back so he set them up to lose big.
@@CronoXpono That's actually not what really happened. If you remember, Lucky and Meyer came to Rothstein first with this deal, all the way back in season 2 actually. They told him that they were planning of going into the heroin business and they were the reason why A.R. realized just how much money there was to be made with heroin. Then in season 3 they wanted to expand their operation and asked A.R. to invest 100,000 $ ( which is like over 2,000,000 $ in today's money ) but Rothstein refused, telling them that he likes the idea but the time is not right. It's because he knew that Lucky won't just sit on his ass and wait for Rothstein to decide when the time is right, A.R. knew that the only man Lucky could turn to for financial backing and protection was Masseria, he counted on Lucky and Meyer going to Masseria and he already planned to screw them over and get in business with Joe "The Boss" Masseria. He used Lucky and Meyer to 1. Get into heroin business. 2. Get into the heroin business with their heroin thus not having to invest his own money. 3. Form an alliance with Masseria and in the process remove Lucky and Meyer from the entire thing, thus preventing them from getting too powerful to one day rival him ( which he failed to do as we all know ). In short, A.R. was a piece of shit in this show... and probably in real life as well.
@@MrDarkkamui a thinner and blanco Prop Joe.
@@MrDarkkamui You really over complicated that. AR didn't give a flying fuck about Joe. He was trying to teach them a valuable lesson on the street and business. Remember he was their mentor in real life.
@@MrDarkkamui fukin oath bro u nailed it. ar was a rat piece of shit
Maya getting all the attention lmao
MA-YA
"All this time I thought I had some Civilizing effect, but there is only so much you can teach a person, until you reach the limits of his capabilities" - Rothstein regarding Charlie
You need a better scout team Mr. Rothstein.
I don't understand this scene. AR nicks their drugs and sits there smug?
And with 2 crooked cops to make sure they have the upper hand
He told them not to try the Heroin thing, but they thought if they borrowed money from his rival Masseria they could strike out on their own. Rothstein suspected this and had their heroin taken by corrupt cops under his control after they spent all the money and there was no way for them to get it back. He then used the captured heroin to force Masseria to end any potential hostility between them. So without costing him a penny he was now going to make a ton of cash in the drug business and he's nipped a potential gang war in the bud and reminded his two underlings that he is not someone to be trifled with.
@@ShadowSonic2 wow, I'm gonna rewatch. It took a while.... but I got there 😂 thx brother 👍👍👌
Lucky got PLAYED here he was furious.
I’m out there in the fucking world
Most decent series need to end at around 3-5 seasons. Boardwalk is one of the few that could have gone on a few more.
Meanwhile things like Evil Dead and Supernatural just go on and on and on. It's a damn shame we didn't get more Boardwalk. There was so much potential in the years between 4 and 5
I've always wondered what the real guys would think of these characters. I think the real Rothstein would haved enjoyed his character in the show
Those tamales look delicious.
I love this scene, the way that the older generation of Jewish/italian gangsters seem to "teach" the younger generation about race, Rothstein essentially tosses Charlie aside for Meyer because hes too hot blooded and not as calculated about business, meanwhile Masseria feels bad for Charlie being used by Rothstein the way he looks like at Lucky when he says "he set me up" and is almost like "I told you, you cant trust these people," and then at the end of this scene and next season, seemingly everyone goes back to their "place" The jewish kid with the jewish gangster and Lucky with Masseria. And AR/Masseria think they taught a lesson. Meanwhile Lucky and Meyer didnt care at all about Race, they looked beyond it and secretly started working to set up the biggest criminal organization of all time.
Lucky served Lansky. They were always less powerful than the Jews. There is no Italian mafia without them.
Just a side note I was wondering who would win Buddy Siegel or Vito Genovese I know they almost had a fight but Costello cooled them down
I think a younger Siegel before he got to Hollywood would win. He was definitely a crazy motherfucker mentally. He was also in great shape physically by working out daily.
And this is what got rothstein killed
its from the season 3 finale, margate sands
E yu, I sorry, I never know your name