McLaren 570S vs Audi R8 V10 Plus vs Porsche 911 Turbo S: supercar track battle!

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • Since 2012 McLaren's line-up has ballooned from one car to eight - and one of the latest arrivals is the 570S. Based on similar carbon fibre underpinnings to its stablemates, the newcomer is designed as a supercar you can live with day to day.
    However, the McLaren isn’t the only high-performance car that’s easy to live with. The Porsche 911 Turbo S has always been the ultimate supercar for all seasons, and now there’s a revised version with even more performance and a host of interior tweaks. Audi’s sensational R8 V10 Plus completes our trio of mouth-watering machines; it combines jaw-dropping looks and top-notch quality with thrilling handling and a sublime engine. Which of our trio takes the spoils? Steve Sutcliffe hits the track to find out...
    McLaren vs Audi vs Porsche group test: aex.ae/29xg4D6
    McLaren 570S review: aex.ae/1W4MWZE
    Audi R8 V10 Plus review: aex.ae/1HSKeOh
    Porsche 911 Turbo S review: aex.ae/1Krcgyr

КОМЕНТАРІ • 769

  • @AntoineMardhel
    @AntoineMardhel 8 років тому +231

    These three cars are so desirable, the audi might be sllower but it's NA, the porsche is an absolute weapon and is practical, and the Mclaren... well it's a freaking Mclaren ffs.
    They're all gorgeous, I'd have all three.

    • @CageyJ0nnY
      @CageyJ0nnY 8 років тому

      Well said my friend!

    • @jlue1993
      @jlue1993 8 років тому

      Well said Sir !!

    • @goguhu
      @goguhu 8 років тому

      Good summary ... and if you want the TS or R8 to be faster ... put on the same tires as the S570 :)

    • @Amidat
      @Amidat 8 років тому +5

      True... Interesting that in GT3 racing - the RWD version of the Audi R8 dominates both of these cars in the series they compete in. Audi always "plays it safe" with their road cars.

    • @goguhu
      @goguhu 8 років тому +3

      Amidat Where do you get that information from?
      Also the 570S and 911 TS are not GT3 cars ... that would be the 650S GT3 and 991 GT3 R/RS/RSR (but don't think many/any are running those yet ... so most 911 R8 has been up against would have been the 997 GT3).

  • @utm4219
    @utm4219 8 років тому +56

    I am a huge 911 fan, but cannot ignore the fact that R8 comes with NA V10 Engine which means it is rare and sounds way more orgasmic than both 570S and Turbo S, is cheapest and just a second slower than these Turbocharged monsters. They have done a very good job!

    • @utm4219
      @utm4219 8 років тому +1

      Yeah. The technology is proven and the quality is second to none.

    • @Danial0152
      @Danial0152 8 років тому

      it's not rare if you look on the used market, E60 M5 and older R8 are cheap to buy now

    • @chrisanderson2204
      @chrisanderson2204 4 роки тому +2

      Well on most tracks the R8 and Turbo S beat the 570S

    • @robbrooke3097
      @robbrooke3097 4 роки тому +2

      UT M r8 is fabulous!
      I’d take it all day
      I run a old s8 v10 and it just makes you smile
      Thanks
      R

    • @sebyfloristean9514
      @sebyfloristean9514 4 роки тому +1

      @@chrisanderson2204 if the track is wet the mclaren can't get that time again

  • @v_alexiadis
    @v_alexiadis 8 років тому +16

    Some great driving right there! I must admit if I had to choose just one it would probably be the R8. Love the V10 and that interior!

  • @back2back22
    @back2back22 8 років тому +95

    So they're all within a second difference from one another, so basically u can go for the one u like the most.

    • @Speednote10
      @Speednote10 8 років тому +43

      Yup, sadly everyone on the internet thinks that if a car is 0.2sec faster than another round a track that automatically makes it much, much better and the obvious choice if you had to buy one of them..

    • @bagdaduk
      @bagdaduk 8 років тому +1

      +Speednote10 are you saying it doesn't???

    • @Speednote10
      @Speednote10 8 років тому +7

      ***** No, of course not. I'd definitely get the Mclaren over the 911 even though I don't really like it. Those 0.2sec of extra perfomance will make all the difference on my sunday blasts down my favourite road.

    • @Speednote10
      @Speednote10 8 років тому +4

      ***** Well I'll get two then.

    • @maxjtj31
      @maxjtj31 8 років тому

      +Speednote10 salty

  • @elliotjames158
    @elliotjames158 8 років тому +60

    loved the test! I think the r8 sounds best tho, even if it wasn't the fastest

    • @thefridgeman
      @thefridgeman 8 років тому +4

      normal aspirated engine and a V10. Should sound like the god's music

    • @elliotjames158
      @elliotjames158 8 років тому

      thefridgeman and it does

    • @Amidat
      @Amidat 8 років тому

      Audi has a more powerful and more torque-y turbo V8 engine that it puts in it's RS cars... They stay with this "relatively low torque" V10 to not make their Lamborghini subsidiary look bad. That is what held back the R8 in this - the lack of torque.

    • @thefridgeman
      @thefridgeman 8 років тому +1

      Audi wont put yet a turbo engine in R8 because a turbo engine response sucks when compared to a normally aspirated one. And in a sports car you need that. Torque is good for lazy people who do not want to shift or company car's users who want to try something else beside a diesel.

    • @Amidat
      @Amidat 8 років тому

      All of the competition moved to turbos... Mclaren - Ferrari - Porsche..

  • @palinex
    @palinex 8 років тому +14

    The Turbo doesn't seem to be in Sport Plus. Doesn't have the wing up nor the flap on the front bumper out!

  • @davecom3
    @davecom3 8 років тому +22

    He's pushing these cars hard! Great to watch and great video. One of your best autoexpress

    • @12389h
      @12389h 8 років тому +20

      lol I agree, Sutcliffe is a damn hooligan!

  • @lm658
    @lm658 8 років тому +31

    570S>650S when it comes to looks imo.

    • @benkrapf
      @benkrapf 8 років тому +1

      And day-to-day usability. No more glitchy software, easier ingress/egress, better stereo...

    • @Wishwader
      @Wishwader 8 років тому

      +Ben Krapf no more glitchy software? Can you expand on that? They still use that sluggish Android-based infotainment system right?
      I'd go for the 650S over this any day. Suspension is in a different class.

    • @alexlam24
      @alexlam24 8 років тому

      Two completely different time periods. The 650S is getting replaced next year anyways

    • @streamcnoremorse3323
      @streamcnoremorse3323 8 років тому

      I like 675 rear. ))

    • @hasanal-habbobi4018
      @hasanal-habbobi4018 7 років тому +1

      I don't like the back of it..... it looks weak especially in comparison to the 488 gtb.. huracan and 675lt. front is amazing tho

  • @Curse_Plays
    @Curse_Plays 8 років тому +33

    I can kiss McLaren designers for designing that art...

    • @nastyscorp
      @nastyscorp 8 років тому +2

      arey you kidding me, 570S is nowhere good as 650s or above .

    • @Curse_Plays
      @Curse_Plays 8 років тому +4

      +nakul singh lol that's your choice

    • @Curse_Plays
      @Curse_Plays 8 років тому +2

      +nakul singh who said 570 looks better than 675.....I just mean this car is sexy af

    • @Curse_Plays
      @Curse_Plays 8 років тому

      +Vaibhav Kumar 650*

    • @nastyscorp
      @nastyscorp 8 років тому

      +Vaibhav Kumar yeah,. but I don't find it good looking as much as 650s. R8 is the ugliest 😂😂😂

  • @mituc
    @mituc 8 років тому +19

    In addition to the cars being tested in their OEM configuration and the 570s having Pirelli Corsa tires as a consequence, it was the only one car biting the asphalt with only two wheels, so this is as fair as it can possibly be.

    • @benkrapf
      @benkrapf 8 років тому +1

      Yeah, all the Deutcheheads on here complaining about tires always leave out the fact that the 570s hooks it all up through just the rears.

    • @Dgannt
      @Dgannt 8 років тому

      But it's also a lot lighter. Don't forget that. It's more of a track car than a sports car, like the other 2. Mclaren 570 GT is more of a sports car and comparable to these 2. But a Mclaren being fast is no news. It's the one thing they always concentrate on, rather than making desirable sports cars. Hence why they lose value so fast.

    • @mituc
      @mituc 8 років тому

      +Fast Er
      The 570s is just a sport GT car like the the other two. The lightness comes from its nature. And the grip is proportional with the coefficient of friction and mass distribution (including here the number of wheels which can pull if you refer to traction) rather than weight. Weight however helps comfort and at low speeds may help traction under some circumstances (also at low speeds), while lightness doesn't really. So the comparison between the 3 looks fair from pretty much any angle you look at it.

    • @lorenzomar9669
      @lorenzomar9669 8 років тому

      Also keep in mind that the tires on the 570S are significantly narrower than those on the 991 - 225 fronts and 285 rears. 20 mm of tread makes a difference. If people want to switch tires, then use the same sizes. Wait for the understeer.

  • @47ambrose42jpm
    @47ambrose42jpm 8 років тому +318

    Think of how fast the 911 would be if it had racy tires like the McLaren

    • @RacingEnigma
      @RacingEnigma 8 років тому +85

      Think how fast the McLaren would be if it had 4WD like the Porsche...

    • @Wishwader
      @Wishwader 8 років тому +12

      I expected the 911 to do better. It's the most expensive one. If the 911 couldn't even beat the McLaren on a relatively slow track it would have no chance on a faster track where the McLaren range shine. The 911 should have been fastest given it should have better traction in slower corners, as with all 4wd.

    • @InitialDAmine
      @InitialDAmine 8 років тому +72

      doesn't make sens at all, you get 4wd you get weight with it, the tires can be changed easly not to mention that from factory you can get optional tires, changing car layout is another story

    • @nazhif1
      @nazhif1 8 років тому +16

      That would make the McLaren considerably heavier and upsetting the weight distribution

    • @Alex-FFM
      @Alex-FFM 8 років тому +28

      a AWD would make the mclaren slower because it would be much heavier etc. The porsche would be faster because having the engine in the rear and awd is a deadly combination. Thats why the Porsche would definitely beat this mclaren with track tyres. Thats just a fact. a sticky tyre makes a car about 4-6 sec faster on a 1 min track. This are tyre manufacturer informations! .... so just make a calculation about how much faster the porsche would be ;)

  • @timmietz
    @timmietz 8 років тому +10

    Thank you to this test! Loved it.

  • @coureurdebois
    @coureurdebois 8 років тому +39

    ugh, so hard, its so close between 911 turbo s and 570s... but the 570s is rwd and v8 so im going with the 570s. plus its sexy af

    • @jortepap
      @jortepap 8 років тому +7

      I love Porsches but that turbocharged flat 6 sounds like a vacuum cleaner.
      I like GT3's and other NA models like Cayman GTS and Carrera GTS soooo much better. They not as fast in straight line but more fun and they sound incredible.
      And the 570S yes.. its a fantastic car. Its a shame though that the rear window on the 570GT looks soooo much better because the 570S is a better supercar

    • @Maximan166
      @Maximan166 8 років тому

      And it's cheaper

    • @coureurdebois
      @coureurdebois 8 років тому

      +Engideer true even better

    • @coureurdebois
      @coureurdebois 8 років тому

      +Jort Rinket i feel you with the sound, but i have alway been a huge turbo fan

    • @theunknown4772
      @theunknown4772 8 років тому

      But how can you beat the sound of an N/A high revving V10... I hate how the 570S sounds like... Too flat plane like and not like the P1 or 12c ....

  • @ssaini5028
    @ssaini5028 8 років тому +74

    This is a Porsche victory by a wide margin, its the heavier GT car with less power and street tires

    • @thelarry383
      @thelarry383 8 років тому +15

      this makes zero sense. You're taking all self inflicted handicaps porsche put on the car and somehow it's better? Mclaren made the better car.

    • @thimble288
      @thimble288 8 років тому +4

      you're both right

    • @ssaini5028
      @ssaini5028 8 років тому +9

      Light Yagami how is the McLaren a better car? Considering its power to weight advantage over the other two cars it should have won by a larger margin. The 911 does it all while being the most luxurious

    • @TheCarxpert
      @TheCarxpert 8 років тому +14

      lmfao, brainwashed Porsche fanboys make me laugh so much! Even if the Porsche fell to pieces, they would still think they are better??
      Put them all on a proper high speed race circuit and the McLaren would be off into the distance. Tight chicanes suit 4WD, but the 570S beat both of them.
      McLaren is king, Porsche is history.

    • @ssaini5028
      @ssaini5028 8 років тому +5

      Viking Power sorry the 918 says otherwise, GT3RS...all much better cars and hold their value unlike McLaren's.

  • @Alby911
    @Alby911 8 років тому +40

    The argument amongst the children here is laughable. One would think that they've driven all three cars extensively with elite skills.
    Sorry, but being good at Forza doesn't give you the license to rubbish any of these cars. All three are fantastic in their own right.

    • @bench175
      @bench175 6 років тому

      "All three are fantastic in their own right." um okay. we all knew that.

    • @robcharlton4486
      @robcharlton4486 5 років тому +1

      Well said!

  • @DrewsTurbo
    @DrewsTurbo 8 років тому +1

    All are amazing, but how could you walk past the Turbo S?
    Collapsed-lung acceleration, AWD for any road and any weather, 2+2 seating, massive build quality, GT ability to blast across Europe and destroy a race track too.
    Astonishing car.

  • @aliwoh
    @aliwoh 3 роки тому +2

    “It’s so fast through the chicane”
    Because you drove straight over it!

  • @salimbatel6571
    @salimbatel6571 8 років тому +29

    Mclaren vs Audi vs Porsche = Steve sutcliff Wins

  • @TheRabzHimself
    @TheRabzHimself 8 років тому +1

    Fantastic video! Now for the road test where we find out which is the best real world vehicle?

  • @abidmalik3345
    @abidmalik3345 8 років тому +3

    My preference in 123
    1:Turbo S
    2: R8
    3:mclaren

  • @wilkomertens
    @wilkomertens 8 років тому +1

    Awesome video Sutcliffe! Keep up the great work, It was a really entertaining to watch!

  • @Popdaddy88
    @Popdaddy88 8 років тому +2

    Why is he not in the running for Top Gear host? I've always loved his reviews

  • @nazhif1
    @nazhif1 8 років тому +73

    Its not really fair for the 911 since it was the first to go round the track when it was still wet. 911 + P zero Corsa + dry track = win for the 911

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 8 років тому +14

      Steve did say that the track line was dry. If you can't believe them on that statement alone, you might as well disregard any automotive comparison from here on out.

    • @PeskyWabbit.
      @PeskyWabbit. 8 років тому +1

      +Alan Bowers he said "it's pretty much dry" then said it's dry, so you'll have to excuse his skepticism about weather it's the truth or not. I can definitely see how a possible wet or damp spots on the track could affect that

    • @theunknown4772
      @theunknown4772 8 років тому

      It's not a track car so don't expect much from it

    • @mrbdzz
      @mrbdzz 8 років тому +1

      +Danny Contreras Wow, such ignorance

    • @theunknown4772
      @theunknown4772 8 років тому

      +mrbdazz I know right

  • @ComproOroBarcelona
    @ComproOroBarcelona 8 років тому +1

    What an astonishing machine the Porsche. A "grand tourer" with four seats and street tires that destroys anything in the track, what an engineering achievement.

  • @d0718
    @d0718 8 років тому +2

    I love all three, but I'd still get the R8 if it's just a weekend car or 911 otherwise. Lap times are all good, but it's all about the emotions and experience you get, and that's where it becomes hard to beat the naturally aspirated V10

  • @imhs81
    @imhs81 7 років тому +1

    always supporting Sutcliffe wherever you are!!

  • @NitoNova
    @NitoNova 8 років тому +2

    I would've chosen McLaren before I knew the results purely on style. It's freakin amazing looking.

  • @goddersgti
    @goddersgti 8 років тому

    For me, Sutters is by far the best and most genuine car journalist out there, Harris is up there too. Great comparison, thanks

  • @billystutz55
    @billystutz55 8 років тому +2

    Steve is my fav of all the car reviewers

  • @richardjones2620
    @richardjones2620 8 років тому

    Having a kid, the only option is the Porsche! I test drove the 991.1 Turbo S and it was incredible. Can't wait to try the 991.2!

  • @user-hj2se6qr6f
    @user-hj2se6qr6f 8 років тому +206

    fit that porsche with p0 corsa and it will smoke 570s

    • @SL-ws8rl
      @SL-ws8rl 8 років тому +7

      He's not butt hurt, we just want a fair comparison 570 is also lighter so it has an advantage there to.

    • @f0rg0rr
      @f0rg0rr 8 років тому +18

      Fit the 570S with AWD and it will some the 911 Turbo

    • @bagdaduk
      @bagdaduk 8 років тому +2

      fit the Mclaren with 4 wheel drive and it will smoke the 911

    • @bagdaduk
      @bagdaduk 8 років тому

      ***** adds weight but.it would still be lighter than the heavy 911

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 8 років тому +8

      All your arguments are pointless and prove you know nothing of vehicle dynamics nor automotive journalism.

  • @TrailRecon
    @TrailRecon 8 років тому +5

    All amazing rides! McLaren for speed & Audi for style in my opinion.

  • @swimmerthon
    @swimmerthon 8 років тому +3

    Ok so who the hell was the camera man who decided to straight line the Chicane 😂
    I'd get out of his way seems like you were holding him up

  • @ganoostermoppy4325
    @ganoostermoppy4325 8 років тому

    Here comes the tyre train everybody, I struggled to keep up with those laps and that trail car going off course put a shiver down my spine, fucking brilliant test!

  • @TYAC_TPE_SF-Bay
    @TYAC_TPE_SF-Bay 8 років тому +3

    What is filming the follow-up shots? It went through lawn like it was nothing but bumped around on tarmac.

    • @courier007
      @courier007 8 років тому

      drone?

    • @VirusTornado
      @VirusTornado 8 років тому

      Yeah I was about to comment about that

    • @peterrayner6544
      @peterrayner6544 8 років тому +1

      looked like an rc car , then they just used a stabilization effect on premiere pro.

  • @johnbohan3900
    @johnbohan3900 5 років тому +1

    Bought a 570S one year ago and love it more every day. Fast, comfortable and extremely stylish......what else could I ask for

    • @ozelusus
      @ozelusus 4 роки тому +2

      How is the reliability of the car?

  • @honerakrawi7032
    @honerakrawi7032 7 років тому +2

    The Porsche would smoke the Mclaren if it had the Corsa on. I do a lot of racing. The tyres are one of the absolut key elements for a better lap time. Super impressed with the Porsche.

  • @jupitersamjk
    @jupitersamjk 8 років тому

    GREAT REVIEW AUTOEXPRESS!

  • @GAGKEvo
    @GAGKEvo 8 років тому +163

    i don't care what people say... i'd still take that beauty turbo s over the other two

    • @campanmarius5241
      @campanmarius5241 8 років тому +1

      Yes !

    • @RxSwolldier
      @RxSwolldier 8 років тому +3

      yea the 570s performance was unexpectedly fast but they mclaren are of formula 1 pedigree anyway... id take a couple tenths of a second off for the everyday usability and beauty of the 911turbo s anyday as well.

    • @lorenzomar9669
      @lorenzomar9669 8 років тому +3

      Depends on what you want. My 991 Turbo bored the hell out of me in daily traffic. Yes - super comfortable, etc., but so was my Range Rover Sport. The 570S on the other hand feels alive and engaging even rolling in traffic at 35 mph.

    • @Kaisuke971
      @Kaisuke971 8 років тому +1

      Porsche just won LeMans twice, and already were on the market decades before McLaren made their first car. Stop making excuses.

    • @GAGKEvo
      @GAGKEvo 7 років тому

      nickys34 listen kid, everybody have different opinion on how a anythings looks (cars, motorcycle, a person's face, art, music, etc)... some people will say something is ugly some people will disagree, so if you can grow up and try to respect other's opinion, that'll be great for you

  • @Xnocturnus
    @Xnocturnus 7 років тому +1

    Great compare of these three!!

  • @storck08
    @storck08 8 років тому +10

    McLaren for me please. It's just so special, carbon fibre tub, same engine as the P1 and McLaren name... one of the best F1 teams ever. I love R8's engine, styling is cool too, but that's it. It could be a more interesting car if it was RWD, but we all know it will never happen. And the 911 Turbo. I'd rather have the GT3 myself. Turbo for me is just a 911 on steroids. Yes, it's a capable and practical car, but two other car here are much more special.

    • @flacjacket
      @flacjacket 8 років тому

      Not the same engine as the P1, the P1s engine is completely unique compared to their other cars it doesn't share a single component. Even the block has a different part number because it is made of a different alloy.

    • @storck08
      @storck08 8 років тому

      My mistake, I thought the engine block is the same and the internals are obviously different on the P1, thanks for clearing this up!

    • @nyikomalongete3814
      @nyikomalongete3814 6 років тому +1

      Spoke too soon...R8 V10 RWD currently in production.

    • @-Ninnux-
      @-Ninnux- 6 років тому

      Nyiko Malongete Well when you wrote your comment his comment was already 10 months old.

  • @davieman3443
    @davieman3443 8 років тому +12

    I'm glad the McLaren won here. being light and having a fine tuned chassis is the way to go. the Germans are too heavy with their sophisticated 4wd systems. more important than lap times, Steve said the McLaren felt most like a track car out of the 3, which makes it a clear winner for me.

    • @utkarsh4386
      @utkarsh4386 6 років тому

      Davie Man you know, I would pick the Mclaren if it had a naturally aspirated engine

    • @lukepallis5129
      @lukepallis5129 5 років тому +1

      gt3 would be the ultimate winner here

  • @honerakrawi7032
    @honerakrawi7032 7 років тому

    I am a amateur race driver. Driving in endurance racing for years. And I can tell you that we once tried Michelin Cup 2 tiers and lost around 2 seconds per lap, compared to our R- tiers. Nothing changes the outcome of the lap time as using track orientated tiers. Don't understand why they do these comparisons with different tiers? I am super impressed by the Porsche. If it would have the same tiers as the McLaren it would have done far better.
    Some of you argue about AWD vs RWD. As a race driver I prefer RWD. It makes the car lighter and more nimble to drive. Sure on a wet track a would prefer the AWD.
    But in my book this race goes to the Porsche.

  • @YachtReport
    @YachtReport 8 років тому

    Rather than saying how the McLaren won, I'd have pointed out how the 911 did so well when it's a Grand tourer not a track car. Incredibly close times though. If you did another lap in each the outcome could have been completely different.

  • @Trinibadman96
    @Trinibadman96 8 років тому

    Are there any channels on UA-cam where they test all the cars on the same tires?

  • @Ak47ram
    @Ak47ram 8 років тому

    Kudos on the chase cam. Well done!

  • @bb57365
    @bb57365 Рік тому

    All with equal rubber would have been a lot different. Like to see apples to apples in these comparison tests, as possible. All great rides.

  • @bcurrall09
    @bcurrall09 8 років тому

    What a machine that Mac is, top work Steve

  • @DreamFearless
    @DreamFearless 7 років тому +1

    Can't wait for the gt2 RS to start smoking everything

  • @marcnobel3938
    @marcnobel3938 8 років тому +1

    Amazing that the Porsche would be still the faster can when you would change to same set of tires. Than it would be also better in dry conditions than the McLaren. In all other conditions it is already better (rain, dirt, normal roads, daily driving, comfort, ...). Same happened when they test the GT3 RS vs the 675LT ... With way better race tires the McLaren was just 0,006 seconds faster. With same set of tires this would change drastic, so that the Porsche would be about 1,2 to 1,5 seconds faster per lap.

    • @alfamonk
      @alfamonk 8 років тому +5

      "better"? you talk like you've thoroughly tested both cars in all conditions. The cars are so close in lap-times that it comes down to subjective preference.

  • @utm4219
    @utm4219 8 років тому

    I can almost see Jenson Button's face on that McLaren's front end, which is a good thing!

  • @talibmwamba7696
    @talibmwamba7696 8 років тому

    you guys should do a drag race with these cars

  • @0079supersaiyan
    @0079supersaiyan 7 років тому

    +Auto Express Have you got the full racing laps of each cars with vbox telemetry data overlay? Quite annoying to see a fast lap with no data of what the cars are doing!

  • @CarLifeOfficial
    @CarLifeOfficial 8 років тому

    what a fantastic showdown!

  • @grecoconduris6716
    @grecoconduris6716 8 років тому

    What case car went through the grass?
    Also, the 570S's tyres are grippier, but they also look narrower, are they?

  • @takarlor12
    @takarlor12 7 років тому +1

    I have never seen a car more stunning than that Mclaren :o

  • @stevielowe2853
    @stevielowe2853 8 років тому

    damm that mclaren ( like all mclarens) is one awesome car ..well done on a well deserved win yet again

  • @HTownDom
    @HTownDom 8 років тому

    What I am not able to wrap my head around is why are people complaining about tires the Michelins strapped to the Porsche are more or less the same as the Corsas. You wanna upgrade how about use the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s also found on the 918. They were good enough to beat the P1. But that would mean upgrading the 570s to a set of Trofeos or Trofeo Rs as found on the P1. I still think the 570s would win because it's so much lighter. People are saying the Porsche would get 3 seconds over the 570 if it had the same tires. Are you kidding me?! 3 seconds on this small track is monumental. That would be like 20 seconds at the Ring and we know damn well the McLaren isn't 20 seconds slower. If the Porsche were faster it maybe by a tenth of a second or two and that's a big IF!

  • @rousseau327
    @rousseau327 8 років тому +22

    The thing with 911s is...theres always the GT3 and GT3 RS

    • @JulioArreaga
      @JulioArreaga 8 років тому +27

      Big McLaren fan, but I believe the 918 has proven to be faster than the P1 on a few occasions. For example, I'm pretty sure MotorTrend tested them both at Laguna Seca and the 918 had the faster lap.

    • @w-james9277
      @w-james9277 8 років тому +3

      And I believe the P1 has been proven faster on a few occasions as well.

    • @JulioArreaga
      @JulioArreaga 8 років тому +4

      W-James Oh totally, my point was that the P1 isn't completely dominant over the 918

    • @rousseau327
      @rousseau327 8 років тому +12

      ***** Yes, but the GT3 and GT3 RS are in the same ballpark price point of the 570S and R8 V10 Plus, and the GT3 isn't exactly an uncomfortable car either. How much does a 675LT cost again? LOL so quick to jump the gun

    • @rousseau327
      @rousseau327 8 років тому +10

      ***** You could have said "I'm ignorant and I have money" and been done with it, instead of waste yours and my time.

  • @w-james9277
    @w-james9277 8 років тому +23

    Allot of Porsche fanboys complaining about the tyres. The Turbo S and 570S were both on the tyres they come with. The Porsche is AWD and has the same tyres you would fit on a 918. The 570S is lighter and more track focused. Its a worthy winner and just happens to be sexy af.

    • @ComproOroBarcelona
      @ComproOroBarcelona 8 років тому +2

      Get your information right. The 918 uses Pilot Sport Cup 2 not Pilot Supersport which is the one used by the Turbo and the R8.

    • @ComproOroBarcelona
      @ComproOroBarcelona 8 років тому +1

      +john m I've tracked both in F1 Barcelona circuit, and there is 2sec difference in the firsts laps, after few more laps, the Supersports performance comes down like crazy.

    • @w-james9277
      @w-james9277 8 років тому

      If Porsche offered the Corsas then they'll use them. But they don't, so they used what Porsche supplied them with.

    • @992turbos8
      @992turbos8 5 років тому +1

      I’m sure you will tag me as a fanboy as I own the 991.2 Turbo S,
      That being said tires make a huge difference here’s the difference the PSS on the Porsche and Audi have a tread wear of 200 designed for more everyday use, even moving up to the Cup 2 treat wear is 120 much softer tire and grippier there so much more then the PSS. Now the P0s Corsa ( PZC4 ) have a tread wear of 80 and is considered a track only tire with super soft sticky tires. There trying to say Race tires over street tires are the same but there not.
      In this style of comparison the whole test is is Invalid as to meany variables.

  • @cbyrne08
    @cbyrne08 6 років тому

    Why do comparisons like this if you aren't going to use the same (or at least same class) of tires on each vehicle?

  • @WiiiRRRttyy
    @WiiiRRRttyy 8 років тому

    The video did not mention that the Porsche and Audi use fatter broader tyres. They made it sound like the Mac had a tyre advantage but if anything it is the other way around.

  • @radost0514
    @radost0514 8 років тому

    good review ! as always and people are complaining about tires...but the sir told us! that they test them as brand new ...and mclaren just came with that tire....if Porsche uses ''CORSA'' tire it will be faster .....and dont forget that this cars have fully adjustable suspensions ....so there is even more time in the suspesion settings

  • @daveybaby10
    @daveybaby10 8 років тому

    McLaren are amazing,there's not a bad car in there entire range and the fact they've achieved all this quality in 5 yrs makes it even more astounding,great to see a British car brand beating the established Marques

  • @eddiejones1728
    @eddiejones1728 8 років тому

    3 awesome cars driven hard an very well by an experienced driver , the truth is that 90percent of people who will buy them will and can't drive them like this so let's just enjoy the experience of them doing wat they do . Also very good vid keep it up

  • @sevach
    @sevach 8 років тому

    Why the Porsche isn't in sport plus mode with it's wings extended?

  • @H.Ash9
    @H.Ash9 8 років тому

    3 great cars. Cool test.

  • @honerakrawi7032
    @honerakrawi7032 8 років тому

    This shows how extremely good the Porsche is, with the Trefeo tires it would have won and this is with the weight disadvantage...I am a amateur racing driver and know how important the tires are and you could argue that if the 570s had four wheel drive then it would have won, but it is not that easy making a great four wheel drive system is very complicated and ads weight and it can be a disadvantage having a four wheel drive car on the race track so who says it would be better for the 570s with the four wheel drive...change tires takes minutes making a four wheel drive system that works perfectly takes generations of cars.

  • @mieguistumas
    @mieguistumas 8 років тому

    I love all of them, it would be a hard choice. On the other hand, god damn can he drive and speak at the same time :D Just a superb performance from Steve both as a journalist and a driver

  • @rcp2bTube
    @rcp2bTube 6 років тому

    That's some proper driving. Cheers

  • @markj4909
    @markj4909 4 роки тому

    I have a 570S. Why do you have an orange 570S in some shots, but a yellow in others? I doubt it's sun reflection or shadows ....

  • @TheOwn3r
    @TheOwn3r 8 років тому

    Put the same P Zero Corsa tires on all 3 cars and run them around the track again. Results would be different. You can't say one car is faster than the other if one has a much better rubber on.

  • @OMRI1234567890
    @OMRI1234567890 8 років тому +1

    love his reviews!

  • @gianniperra5037
    @gianniperra5037 3 роки тому

    What would be the time if the Audi had some Corsa tyre?
    The Pzero are the worst tyre on track

  • @ibizalover2000
    @ibizalover2000 8 років тому +3

    Reading the comments on here, i can't believe how butthurt Porsche fanboys are for having lost against a well superior car. Take a walk, come back next time with a better car.
    Sometimes, I feel like porsche fanboys are worse than GTR fanboys. Sad.

  • @null_foo
    @null_foo 8 років тому

    Put the Turbo in Sport mode next time, Sport + to make it more fun.

  • @bbgt6299
    @bbgt6299 8 років тому

    top test from Steve as usual - although Tires become such a big differentiator - they need to be the same on all 3 cars in order to do a test. Then 570S tends to have over 600 hp in real life. I'd still say the 911 is overall winner taking it's all year around Qualities but for those who want something more flashy the Mac package is hard to beat

  • @sw1000xg
    @sw1000xg 8 років тому +10

    Whether or not the MCLaren is the fastest, if it had AWD would it still be faster and if it was heavier would it still be so good, put the sticky tires on the Turbo blah blah blah. The fact is the 570 is brand new! The Turbo S is YEARS old. OK, they updated the platform, but have been since the Turbo was first itorduced IT SHOULD BE GOOD! You Porsche fanboys are fucking pathetic. They have spent billions researching in to improvements over the years. Barely updated the look of the car with just a few tweaks and such. But you lot, think the Turbo S just came out of no where 5 minutes ago and took diwb every other car! Lets see the 570 in 40 years time how BRILLIANT it would be...

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo 8 років тому

      the bigger fact everyone's forgetting is british bias.
      you can 100% sure there's some of that here. like always.

    • @sw1000xg
      @sw1000xg 8 років тому +2

      *****
      SO when the Germans win it's not biased? They win because they keep remaking the same car time and time again!

    • @ramstameldiablo6992
      @ramstameldiablo6992 7 років тому

      sw1000xg See what you've said there? I can tell you that you're the fanboy over here

    • @robcharlton4486
      @robcharlton4486 5 років тому

      ​@@GraveUypo You're absolutely right. There is almost always bias in every opinion... ALMOST. I have had the privilege of driving the 911 on a track day, the v10 plus as a hire car, and I have just chosen the mclaren 570s spider as my next hire car, which is what brought me here.
      Right now I would opt for the Naturally aspirated R8... Instant power delivery, fantastic brakes, capable of oversteer when pushed, nicley planted. Only downside which I could tell is the electric steering being a little less communicative than I'd like. The Porsche is very fast and capable, but failed to spark any emotion.
      However, on paper I would always opt for the Mclaren out of the 3 and not because of the aforementioned British bias, but because of it's characteristics; RWD, lightweight, agile, hydraulic steering, and you have to work for it... it's a drivers car!
      If the Germans or any other nationality had built a car with these characteristics it would not change my opinion of the car. I make up all of my opinions objectively, as I'm sure many others do.
      It's most likely your slight disliking of the British which pushed you to make such a comment in the first place.

  • @edhv0
    @edhv0 7 років тому

    A new king has born. Mclaren has everything: performance, looks, doors, exoticness, price!... the 570s is not a sports car, is a super car... a wolf in sheep skin. I don't really think there's a question here about which is the best car, it comes to loyalty to a brand to choose a car. F1 genes... nothing in the world can beat that.

    • @sharjeel.k126
      @sharjeel.k126 7 років тому

      Behd131 a king with heavily modified nissan engine, better tires, less weight, less practical and only a smidge faster than an outgoing versatile 911 turbo.

  • @ralphsmallblock4367
    @ralphsmallblock4367 7 років тому

    How long will corsas last on the heavier 911 turbo s not a practical track car like the mclaren 570S.

  • @buleonabike650
    @buleonabike650 7 років тому

    is this the same track the grand tour uses?

  • @gabecalandrino4320
    @gabecalandrino4320 4 роки тому

    So you go on a track and the put the turbo s in comfort mode and not sport plus?

  • @Pine360
    @Pine360 7 років тому

    Hey Auto Express, I'm a new subscriber and I was wondering if you could add a few things to your already superb videos.
    I'd love to know at what speed you start each lap just to get an estimate for comparisons. I'd also love to see the G's that each super car pulled around the bends of your track. I hope you take these thoughts in consideration for your upcoming videos and thank you for the great content!

  • @correzzana1992
    @correzzana1992 7 років тому +3

    All 3 lovely !!
    BTW the TIRES make a huge difference here, Porsche with Pirelli's Corsa has the greatest performance

  • @foesfly3047
    @foesfly3047 4 роки тому

    Cool watch-- is it a Glashutte Original? I've been considering a Sixties model lately.

  • @HEKTIC458
    @HEKTIC458 8 років тому +1

    The 570S would be my pick if i was spending my money. I love that Porsche though, its a monster.

  • @minibus1351
    @minibus1351 8 років тому +60

    ok so in conclusion the porsche wins. with same tires obviously.

    • @xPUR3xSHOTZx
      @xPUR3xSHOTZx 8 років тому +13

      But stock, the Porsche doesn't come with those tyres so you cannot complain. McLaren put those tyres on even though it made the car more expensive, which shows up the Porsche as it's the most expensive yet does not come with them

    • @juffurey
      @juffurey 8 років тому

      but the 570s is only rwd so the grip is probably still not as good. though, that means it weighs a lot less.

    • @Executiveinvestments-
      @Executiveinvestments- 8 років тому

      +Russell 2/10's of a second isnt "showing up" anything. But nice try fanboi.

    • @PedroFTeixeira
      @PedroFTeixeira 8 років тому +1

      Yep... agreed.
      Porsche decided to go with a more confortable tire, Mclaren with a more "racy" tire.

    • @meatpunch3473
      @meatpunch3473 8 років тому +2

      In conclusion the Porsche lost. It has AWD vs RWD on a damp track. What's your point, you degenerate moron

  • @charlesdrevet5861
    @charlesdrevet5861 8 років тому

    Nice video but the porsche does'nt seems to be in sport plus mode because the rear spoiler is down.

    • @stevesutcliffe1274
      @stevesutcliffe1274 8 років тому +3

      They were all in their optimum configurations when the lap times were taken Charles, promise, even if there are some shots where the 911's rear wing isn't out. We do the times, and then we shoot them; and then we shoot them some more. And maybe at some point during the latter the 911's Sport Plus button hadn't been pressed. Hope that makes some sense, cheers, Steve

    • @charlesdrevet5861
      @charlesdrevet5861 8 років тому

      All right thank you for your answer, love your videos , keep it up. Cheers, Charles

  • @foesfly3047
    @foesfly3047 4 роки тому

    I was surprised the McLaren was faster than the 911. I expected it to be just behind the Porsche but ahead of the Audi. Having owned two 911s in my 56 year life, I believe McLaren are currently the best looking cars on the planet. Please let me know when they reach Porsche levels of reliability and 'reasonable' maintenance costs... if that ever happens, I will buy a 4 or 5 year old model (I hope).

  • @JoJoJoker
    @JoJoJoker 8 років тому +2

    6, 8 or 10?

  • @Groagun
    @Groagun 8 років тому

    I'm genuinely surprised. I'm not a Porsche fan/lover but expected the turbo S to walk away wit this. Good on McLaren.

  • @gazzabrownhigh8891
    @gazzabrownhigh8891 7 років тому

    What a fantastic sports car the 570S is and bargain entry level into the McLaren brand but for a real SUPERcar the 650S spider is the one to have

  • @AndyOjoks
    @AndyOjoks 7 років тому

    this is too entertaining.

  • @JoJoJoker
    @JoJoJoker 8 років тому +1

    O.2 seconds faster, could totally feel it!

  • @evanescent0311
    @evanescent0311 7 років тому +1

    hardest $200k question I can think of.

  • @Shadowboost
    @Shadowboost 8 років тому

    The turbo's tires still needed to be warmed up, aka same type of tire as the 570S. And the 570S intentionally is setup for less traction to make it more fun to drive. It was never designed to dominate the track like the 675LT

  • @aliancemd
    @aliancemd 7 років тому

    I only heard his accent and instantly knew that McLaren will win...
    It won because:
    1. British show
    2. If they wanted to make a fair comparison they would of put the same type of tires on all of the cars. On such a track, sticky tires is the most important...
    Taking this into consideration, McLaren was definitely 2-nd or 3-rd in reality.

  • @paulj5975
    @paulj5975 6 років тому

    Not a fair comparison at all! Porsche had the bigger wheels with 305 rear tyres. 570 had the only size wheel they come with but with corsa tyres! The R8 was hindered by have the smaller wheel option with narrower tyres.

  • @IndianaJono
    @IndianaJono 8 років тому

    I understand the argument that the McLaren comes fitted with super-sticky tyres from the factory and therefore should be tested as such, however, in the interests of fairness it might have been advisable to run the same tyres on all cars and THEN state that it is infact one of them that comes with those tyres as standard.

  • @elicohen5073
    @elicohen5073 7 років тому

    very nice steve. This job is fucking sick.