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  • Опубліковано 24 чер 2013
  • On this episode of The Art of Punk we hit head on with the art behind the legendary Dead Kennedy's. From the chaotic, surreal, madness, of collage mixed with political folly that blazed their LP's and gig flyers; to the razor edge ultra simplistic four simple line DK symbol. In San Francisco we corner founding Dead Kennedy's member Jello Biafra, and discuss his own warped inspiration for the many sleeves and posters created in the early days of the band. Back in Los Angeles we talk with pop surrealist artist Tim Biskup about how the DK's affected and twisted his own young mind, and Steve Olson graces us with a few words of wisdom. Finally we meet up with master collage artist, and designer of the DK's symbol, Winston Smith in his North Beach art studio, and talk about how he was drawn into the early Bay Area punk scene - and his long and creative artist relationship with the Dead Kennedy's and Jello Biafra.
    Created, directed, and Executive Produced by writer/author of 'Fucked Up + Photocopied', Bryan Ray Turcotte (Kill Your Idols), and Bo Bushnell (The Western Empire), The Art Of Punk traces the roots of the punk movement and the artists behind the iconic logos of punk bands such as: Black Flag (Raymond Pettibon), The Dead Kennedys (Winston Smith), and Crass (Dave King).
    In addition to profiling the artists, the series includes intimate interviews with former band members, notable artists, and celebrities who have been heavily influenced by the art of punk rock including Jello Biafra, Tim Biskup, Scott Campbell, Chuck Dukowski, Flea, Steve Olson, Penny Rimbaud, Henry Rollins, Owen Thornton, and Gee Vaucher.
    The filmmakers Bryan Ray Turcotte and Bo Bushnell take a unique approach to exploring the rich histories of these three seminal punk legends by focusing on the influential imagery and seeking out stories that have not been told yet through the artwork, which is integral to the importance and influence of each band.
    On June 11, 2013 The Art Of Punk debuts on MOCAtv with an episode on Raymond Pettibon and the artwork of Black Flag. The stories behind the art of the Dead Kennedys will debut on June 18, and June 25 will see the release of the Crass episode, all of which will be available at: / mocatv
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    DIRECTED BY:
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    BO BUSHNELL
    EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS:
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    EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS:
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    STARRING:
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    KEITH MORRIS
    CHUCK DUKOWSKI
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    FLEA
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 173

  • @senorpigeon9564
    @senorpigeon9564 4 роки тому +92

    So punks made memes before memes were a thing. This is the best fact I have heard all time.

    • @generalbacardi3863
      @generalbacardi3863 3 роки тому +2

      Yes. This is correct. However, punk normalized horseshit.

    • @lexscott2911
      @lexscott2911 3 роки тому +7

      Actually you guys, memes have heen around forever, I would argue cavemen are more deserving of the credit. What do ya think Lascaux is?

    • @recynd77
      @recynd77 2 роки тому +2

      @@generalbacardi3863 Sadly, you are 100% not wrong.

    • @hjillumi880
      @hjillumi880 2 роки тому

      oh fucking hell not this shit

  • @MyNameIsMrStuck
    @MyNameIsMrStuck 9 років тому +137

    Winston's observation about punk "movement" lasting longer than the peace love and hippie crap is pretty interesting. The observation that rage and hatred sticks longer than peace and love is pretty profound, even scary.

    • @mykneecapshurt
      @mykneecapshurt 7 років тому +6

      MUD_- it's observable throughout history, pretty much every large movement (good or bad) came to power and popularity through extreme opposition and hate towards the status quo

    • @buggs9950
      @buggs9950 5 років тому +11

      I'm not so sure the comparison should be peaces & love / rage & hatred. It's just different ways to rebel, that is, doing nothing vs doing everything you can to subvert and fuck with the system. In hindsight it would seem that yes, doing something makes more impact, surprise..

    • @canstermeat8171
      @canstermeat8171 5 років тому +9

      Exactly how hippies want you to think -- peace and love good, rage and hate bad, even though all of those are human emotions.

    • @thorazine8402
      @thorazine8402 3 роки тому +10

      Since when is protest and questioning authority equivalent with rage and hatred? SMH

    • @CyberDeity01
      @CyberDeity01 4 місяці тому +1

      It's really always been more of a modality type thing by way of generational eras, whereby oppression creates the need for a rise in in resistance; usually government or church, this time both...

  • @MrPeguin666
    @MrPeguin666 11 років тому +12

    lol "Nike Swooshtika"... I love Jello

  • @mandermpf
    @mandermpf 11 років тому +36

    The Germs blue circle is an excelent logo too.

  • @betazzo76
    @betazzo76 7 років тому +41

    this video is outstanding

  • @stumppuppettheatre
    @stumppuppettheatre 11 років тому +4

    There were quite a few punks who were trained artists and even more "fans" who were definitely outsider artists. Many of them did in fact do flyer art: David Brandt, Pusshead, Paul Votava III, Steve Humann. Several tattoo artists: Snickers, Mark Mahoney; also "fine" artists: Brian Tucker, John Denney, Phil Bower, Sue Tissue, Tim Armstrong; and photo/film creatives: Penelope Spheeris, KK Barrett, Nicole Panter, David Markey, Janet Cunningham, Ed Colver, Nikki Tucker, Jenny Lens, etc...

  • @thevaxxines
    @thevaxxines Місяць тому +1

    Some of the best album covers of all time!!

  • @felgfc
    @felgfc 11 років тому +8

    please keep up with this series!! The Art of Punk has some of the best content and approach I've seen in a while, congratulations MOCATV

  • @VioletDeliriums
    @VioletDeliriums 10 років тому +36

    2:39 This is such a funny story about the fake bands and venues! You would think that it would kill a scene to fake people out like that, but it's funny it sort of landed him a job making art for punk bands. It kinda validates the line of thought that says, "If you want to make something happen, just start a rumor."

  • @davemarriott9332
    @davemarriott9332 2 роки тому +2

    Great interview. Winston made a record cover for our band ‘Infested’ back in ‘95 in San Francisco. I remember going over to his house to meet him/talk about the cover....we went to his room and on the wall was the art piece of ‘In God We Trust’. I stepped back “there it is” I said, Winston said “yep it’s there”. Showed us the cover he worked up for ‘Helpless White Grub” with a 50’s style Ozzy n Heriot kitchen, fridge open, mother piecing out a worm pie to her waiting son with his bulging excited eyes....Fucking brilliant.
    One the nicest guys I’ve ever met and very honored to have worked with him. Glad to see he hasn’t changed...(I don’t think he ages)

  • @davidkoenig8592
    @davidkoenig8592 11 років тому +2

    Goodness, this series "The Art of Punk" is becoming the best thing I've seen in a very, very long time...Collage art is very difficult to pull off without it looking pretentious...Winston Smith did it the best. Very influential in my life...

  • @deanhumphries7878
    @deanhumphries7878 2 роки тому +1

    The Dead Kennedys Art work for there albums and single covers in an Art form on it's own, Love the Dead Kennedys. Respect from the UK.

  • @jamescourtney4655
    @jamescourtney4655 10 років тому +5

    Those Shriners are so funny!

  • @Electric.Spaghetti.Neon.Studio
    @Electric.Spaghetti.Neon.Studio 11 років тому +1

    Hell yeah! Pushead!!! Talk about an influential dude... today there are 10,000 artists drawing skulls because of him.

  • @devinrodriguez3530
    @devinrodriguez3530 Рік тому

    I love that Steve Olson shows up in all these punk docs love you Olson

  • @LetsGoMetsGo33
    @LetsGoMetsGo33 10 років тому +9

    the pistols (jamie reid, vivienne westwood), ramones (arturo vega), and clash (simmonon and jones went to art school, did a lot of stencils and paints onn clothes and backdrops) would be cool episodes too.

    • @squirrelguirrel7010
      @squirrelguirrel7010 6 років тому

      Cheetah Thunders. You are right, we’d be interested. Please go make those videos!

  • @victorschmidt3164
    @victorschmidt3164 5 років тому +7

    I always draw the logo on tables at school

    • @obiwaltkenobi575
      @obiwaltkenobi575 5 років тому

      lol, mee too, together with anarchist A, Squat N, Totalni Naszeni TN

    • @s.a.l.1974
      @s.a.l.1974 4 роки тому +1

      Me too, and black flag and jfa and poison idea and agression and void

  • @betapetrol
    @betapetrol 11 років тому +11

    MISFITS is coming!!

  • @JemalDiamond
    @JemalDiamond 11 років тому +1

    This is great. I had no idea my design, typography, and collage practice was being influenced by Winston Smith and other designers when I was thrashing around listening to this awesome angsty music back in the day.

  • @djashearman6453
    @djashearman6453 11 років тому +4

    Loved this series, any chance of more?
    Need a Rudimentary Peni one!

    • @peteormond3565
      @peteormond3565 11 місяців тому

      Might not be the easiest thing in the world to get an interview with Nick Blinko

  • @MxAxRxK
    @MxAxRxK 5 років тому +3

    I have that “let them eat jellybeans” record

  • @noahtavlin
    @noahtavlin 11 років тому

    love the series!!! more please

  • @kingobeast8528
    @kingobeast8528 11 років тому +1

    Don't know that one but here is one I have cherished for many years; "Streetart, the Punk Poster in San Francisco, 1977-1981"

  • @DrFrankenskippy
    @DrFrankenskippy 4 роки тому

    Zoinks! ... now that is a brill' POV of this great artist and of course Jello/the san fran punker scene

  • @i2ndsight
    @i2ndsight 6 років тому

    So glad to have made that historic introduction you guys!

  • @DanWasHereToo
    @DanWasHereToo 10 років тому

    Very interesting! I'm glad I stumbled upon this!

  • @dant8008
    @dant8008 3 роки тому

    Awesome series! Would love to see more!

  • @007KrausBean
    @007KrausBean 7 років тому

    On of the most iconic and the BEST logos ever.

  • @alanhansmannkurtcobain8811
    @alanhansmannkurtcobain8811 Рік тому

    Awesome. Great Art!

  • @yaronimus1
    @yaronimus1 6 років тому

    AWESOME GRAPHIC DESIGN!!

  • @svenjo72dpi
    @svenjo72dpi 11 років тому

    This is mos def the best music documentary ever!

  • @mandermpf
    @mandermpf 11 років тому

    Awesome! Love that logo!

  • @jesuspeaksfrench
    @jesuspeaksfrench 11 років тому +1

    Rudimentary Peni next would be sick!

  • @fredxmertz
    @fredxmertz 11 років тому +3

    "In God We Trust, Inc." is like a soundtrack to my life.

  • @jimhorwat
    @jimhorwat 11 років тому +1

    Awesome series! Very well done. Would love to see more...
    My vote is for D.I. They had an awesome logo - Mayan dog statue thing; very '80s O.C. skate-ish

  • @T9X78
    @T9X78 10 років тому

    Very cool....thx

  • @tyelland
    @tyelland 11 років тому

    Great story !

  • @dontgetmewrong2669
    @dontgetmewrong2669 8 років тому +11

    kinda strange that there is no dk music at the beginning

    • @zverina
      @zverina 7 років тому +8

      due to legal battles it seems you can either have Jello or the DKs in your doc, but not both.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Kennedys#Legal_conflicts

  • @carvinblack
    @carvinblack 11 років тому

    Awesome video!

  • @mandermpf
    @mandermpf 11 років тому +1

    I hope they make Misfits, Crass and Ramones episodes. Crime, FEAR and Bad Brains have great text logos too.

  • @rogeliogonzalez5293
    @rogeliogonzalez5293 10 років тому

    Love Winston. Love Jello. ~~~~ Simplicity contains the secret of genius. In other words; "Less is more.".

  • @cameraboynyc
    @cameraboynyc 11 років тому

    More please. You have to keep this series going, there are so many great logos left; Skank Man from Circle Jerks, Seven Seconds, Minor Threat ....

  • @saulgoodmanshellokittyphone
    @saulgoodmanshellokittyphone 7 років тому +1

    I'd love to see the collages made by Biafra

  • @meowmeow-cr5sn
    @meowmeow-cr5sn Рік тому

    "What if Crass was funny" is probably the best was to describe Jello

  • @crossfiretv3602
    @crossfiretv3602 11 років тому

    Yes Winston. Looking dope there bruv.

  • @betapetrol
    @betapetrol 11 років тому

    Love That Book! Viva La James Stark

  • @helenfreud2088
    @helenfreud2088 10 років тому

    this impact everyone

  • @RunningP123456
    @RunningP123456 11 років тому

    i would love to see that

  • @BRB2370
    @BRB2370 8 років тому

    awesome

  • @Electric.Spaghetti.Neon.Studio
    @Electric.Spaghetti.Neon.Studio 11 років тому +1

    I think the story of that poster warrants its own episode. Though I'm sure they passed over it in this one because it was Giger's art and not Winston's.

  • @samorenpalmer
    @samorenpalmer 6 місяців тому

    Dope

  • @Skeletonwitharaygun
    @Skeletonwitharaygun 11 років тому +1

    Can't wait for the misfits video. :D

  • @thesanfordmethod1905
    @thesanfordmethod1905 9 місяців тому +2

    Half of these bands , not all, wou;dn't even exist if it wasn't for Ray's artwork. Ray Pettibon is like the 5th beatle in many bands imo.

  • @rocketmatt1996
    @rocketmatt1996 11 років тому +1

    Also, the misfits should be next. The story behind the crimson ghost.

  • @pinkaerozeppelin
    @pinkaerozeppelin 11 років тому

    awesome icon

  • @jessesnyder5150
    @jessesnyder5150 8 років тому +2

    The symbol is the rune for grief and fear
    no
    B

  • @IanInfernal
    @IanInfernal 11 років тому

    Do Circle Jerks soon! The skanker man is rad.

  • @dasadopeboy
    @dasadopeboy 8 років тому +2

    i used it as my initials, fuckn cool

    • @heyphilphil
      @heyphilphil 7 років тому +6

      dasadopeboy
      That's Awesome Dickie Kooter!!! Awesome!!!

  • @GreatestPotential
    @GreatestPotential 10 років тому +2

    LARD saved my life.

  • @chriscameron9321
    @chriscameron9321 5 років тому

    Hate will still be there long after love has dissolved and left this world!

  • @freakgeek66
    @freakgeek66 11 років тому +3

    "What if Crass was funny?"... Then people would probably still like them 30 years later... like Black Flag.

    • @buzzardsinuses4780
      @buzzardsinuses4780 4 роки тому

      People don’t like Crass? I’ve never heard of them until I saw this video.

    • @soylentramen7795
      @soylentramen7795 3 роки тому

      "We're ruled by dangerous, mad people. What's funny about *that* for fuck's sake?"....

  • @sabbracadabra8367
    @sabbracadabra8367 2 роки тому

    The video pairs well with the Black Flag Raymond Pettibon video.

  • @Cheshire_Alchemist
    @Cheshire_Alchemist 10 років тому +3

    Yes, collage art can be deeply misunderstood as scrapbook art in the wrong hands, with the wrong attitude about what it can be...

  • @LetThePoorStarve
    @LetThePoorStarve 11 років тому

    Cool

  • @LetThePoorStarve
    @LetThePoorStarve 11 років тому

    NO kidding! How could they leave that out! That was HUGE obscenity case! Jello went on Oprah!

  • @noodledalight5
    @noodledalight5 11 років тому +5

    Bad Brains

  • @CarlosOrtiz-wi4kf
    @CarlosOrtiz-wi4kf 3 роки тому

    punk is live star time real music is power is love just day is punk.

  • @ellettcheyneArt
    @ellettcheyneArt 11 років тому +1

    tsol or adolecents next!

  • @LetThePoorStarve
    @LetThePoorStarve 11 років тому

    Minor Threat or Misfits next!

  • @tonykuchar3237
    @tonykuchar3237 11 років тому

    What is the title of the book being burned in the intro?

  • @dddsssaaaqqq
    @dddsssaaaqqq 4 роки тому

    Does anybody know which collage Winston talks about when he speaks about Niagara Falls?

  • @OccupyJordan
    @OccupyJordan 11 років тому

    Great vids, but nothing about H.R. Geiger and the Frankenchrist work?

  • @o.liveil7111
    @o.liveil7111 4 роки тому

    Jello is my punk rock grandpa

  • @gosoku2771
    @gosoku2771 6 років тому +1

    Circle One.

  • @eamonic
    @eamonic 10 років тому +2

    Anyone know what song plays at the end during credits?

    • @TheJajajajaja21
      @TheJajajajaja21 8 років тому

      +eamonic sounds like the band Fucked Up to me, not sure what song it is, though if you like it their whole discography should do you some good

    • @eamonic
      @eamonic 8 років тому

      Jacob Dunn Thanks you.

  • @z.833
    @z.833 3 роки тому +1

    Is it his real name? Or did he take it from George Orwell's 1984?

  • @turbomustang84
    @turbomustang84 5 місяців тому +1

    Best punk band ever and political but having the good sense to hate both sides .
    And east bay ray never got the respect for his screeching guitar that absolutely deserves it

  • @ghoulhellbilly2528
    @ghoulhellbilly2528 5 років тому

    im voming here once in a whice for couple of years, and i still dont know what's the music at 1:42

  • @frankdiscussion2069
    @frankdiscussion2069 9 років тому +12

    Why is Jello Biafra in a wheelchair??

    • @MyNameIsMrStuck
      @MyNameIsMrStuck 9 років тому +1

      Frank Discussion I'm assuming its not because he is crippled because it appears he is at a show.

    • @lowerclassbrats77
      @lowerclassbrats77 6 років тому +6

      Old high school football injury. 🤐

    • @D3lirium-ik7dg
      @D3lirium-ik7dg 6 років тому +3

      Frank Discussion His injury from his jock days caught up to him.

    • @sn1000k
      @sn1000k 5 років тому

      do you people not know about him being almost beaten to death?

    • @6AM_YT
      @6AM_YT 5 років тому +2

      He is being crushed by the weight of his own bullshit and ego.

  • @chainsawbarbarian
    @chainsawbarbarian 10 років тому +1

    You mean the Dead Kennedy's hexagram? Their logo is a 6 pointed shape that (with a "Y" in the middle is a 3D cube. ua-cam.com/video/exjnTvxkarA/v-deo.html Here's my video about hidden occult/freemason symbols on old punk rock records. A triangle up and a triangle down...the Star of David. Same as MOCA's spinning cube at the beginning of this vid. They are everywhere. Not calling it evil....just trippy. Crack a beer and please enjoy! PS.....the cube inside the circle makes the Masonic square and compass. Come be amazed, punkrockers!

  • @Lazarob12
    @Lazarob12 7 років тому +3

    Song at 4:50?

  • @mandermpf
    @mandermpf 11 років тому +2

    I disagree on fucking The Ramones, Its a great logo and iconography (though that one already heard that story). I am also interested in hearing about The Sucidal Tendencies graphic expression.

  • @betapetrol
    @betapetrol 11 років тому

    VIVA LA DEAD KENNEDYS

  • @betapetrol
    @betapetrol 11 років тому

    CRASS is up now!

  • @ElCazador66
    @ElCazador66 11 років тому

    Fuckin awesome

  • @RunningP123456
    @RunningP123456 11 років тому

    how did they not talk about the frankenchrist poster???

  • @zoomparker2154
    @zoomparker2154 Рік тому

    Which is better Jello or Jello free?

  • @manuelfong2648
    @manuelfong2648 7 років тому

    whats is the intro song

  • @ani9ikocug474
    @ani9ikocug474 8 років тому +3

    minor threat gamw

  • @radogguts6165
    @radogguts6165 3 роки тому

    I wish doom could have worked with gello

  • @baker3person
    @baker3person 9 років тому +1

    Whats the song at 2:35?

  • @KnoxHardGallery
    @KnoxHardGallery 11 років тому

    I dont understand why they don't use any of the music from the band they are featuring?!

  • @Inimbrium
    @Inimbrium 11 років тому

    |>|< forever!

  • @smashism
    @smashism 11 років тому

    Pushead next

  • @aandreaa0000
    @aandreaa0000 5 років тому

    ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆

  • @EWKification
    @EWKification 5 років тому

    Other than the logo no piece of art was displayed for more than a fraction of a second. This inadvertently undercuts the whole premise of the video, and the series, which is that the art associated with punk is worth looking at. Well, let me fucking look at it for at least one second then. Apparently whoever made the film didn't think it was worth looking at for more that a fleeting instant. That says really quite a lot. The whole point of a still image is that it stays still so your eye can wander around it. It's NOT just a frame in a movie to disappear in a tenth of a second.

  • @filibertovera4923
    @filibertovera4923 8 років тому +1

    HAHAHA I have a Dead kennedys Fillmore poster

    • @TheXitone
      @TheXitone 8 років тому

      +Vera666 its the way you tell it thats funny

  • @santiagoblanes6969
    @santiagoblanes6969 Рік тому

    "what if crass was funny" 😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @orphanstephen
    @orphanstephen 11 років тому

    Jello drinks Deschutes

  • @DasIstDochMalEinName
    @DasIstDochMalEinName 10 років тому

    interesting...
    ...not a single dead kennedys-song throughout the whole vid