Always felt the hype was too much to match the talent with McLemore. Sacramento reached on him way too high and his career suffered in that circumstance.
Paul McPherson who was all-state in Lake Shore high School in Chicago, went to DePaul with Quinton Richardson, went to Denver and Phoenix Sun's, Won Magic Johnson 1-on-1 MTV Tounamment, READ WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM NOW 😮😮😮
I was literally about to type this. They’re one in the same. Both athletic, with good shooting mechanics, similar builds and even hair styles now 😂🤣😂. Both also have been scouted as having low motors and bad work ethics
I saw him play in person in high school several times in St.Louis. He and Bradley Beal were in the same graduating class. He made ESPN top 10 with a dunk in a summer league game before his Senior year.
Please do Lamont Murray next, had hops, perfect size for a SG, had decent handles, can shoot, played for bad teams like the clippers and cavs, was solid in the 90s to the early 00s.
Anthony Edwards is what McLemore should've been. I almost think they're exactly the same player, but one is a superstar and other one just has never had any consistency in anything.
Edwards has better handle and good enough weights to punish his opponent in the post. McLemore did not have the same level of ball handling and he was rather slender though muscular
I was wondering if you ever got around to him. I remember this brother man. Amazing. He had stupid hops and a really nice jumper. It boggles the mind how he and other guys from Kansas during this time never had a successful career in the league. Do you think you could do Perry Ellis sometime?
Without the benefit of knowing how things turned out, I thought Ben McLemore and Bradley Beal were similar players coming out of college. Both 6'3"/6'4". Both were off the ball guards known for their shooting. The irony is both are from St Louis. Both are the same age. But Ben had to sit out a year because of his high school transcript so Bradley got drafted out of college a year before Ben. Bradley got drafted to a team where he could develop and have the green light(Washington). Ben going to the Kings over the course of the years he was there didn't have such freedom. What a difference a year can make on the landscape of the league and who a player gets drafted to. Great video @stuntedgrowth !
Kevin Martin didn't have a growth stunt. Drafted in the late 1st round, he really overachieved his draft slot. His skinny frame made it difficult for him on the defensive end and his court vision and passing skills were sub par. But he was a gifted scorer who was extremely efficient from inside and beyond the arc. Along with his ability to draw fouls and shooting nearly 90% at the stripe, he was a borderline all star player during his prime. Unfortunately his skinny frame couldn't withstand the grind and bumps of the NBA, which is why he was injury prone
Ngl, Bill Self can get guys to the league(Embiid, Wiggins) but some of those guys at KU unfortunately didn’t succeed due to their own faults, injuries or development by teams not having guys understand that every play won’t be a home run. The Kings during the late 2000s-early 2020s(pre-2022/23) were some dogshit teams. Management fucked some of those guys over
One of the best SG’s you’ve ever done - detailed on why he didn’t make it both on/off the court. Would love to see one on Ricky Price, Duke SF 1994-1998. Looked like the next great Duke wing after Grant Hill only to end his career in Coach K’s doghouse. Why?
Honestly, that's probably what happened - he looked unique but wasn't really NBA ready Watching him in college he was definitely over drafted Trey Lyles for example was a similar type of unique but he actually did more than just look unique
You should do videos on Jay Edwards and James Blackmon. Both were stars from the same high school as Zach Randolph in Marion, IN and both played in the NBA for a second. Love these videos man
I have been waiting one on Omari Spellman. The man is made for Stunted Growth. Had crazy potential and even was picked above Jalen Brunson. It turned out that the only season he played well was his second year at Villanova, which also happened to be the only season he was able to maintain his weights. Even in Korea, where he won one Championship, his weight issue led him to getting cut very next year
This shows the importance of coaches! A coach is like a team psychologist. You can be talented but coaches are the ones who can see things that players can't see and believe!
One-and-done stories like Ben's are why I always wonder if some guys should stay longer at school. Situation matters, and maybe he could have been a bit better had he stayed longer at Kansas and taken a bit more time to develop. But I guess when you're a lottery pick with immediate millions and (usually) four years to prove yourself, that doesn't exactly matter to most on that level🤷🏾♂️
Had he come back for his sophomore year, they'd have him, A. wiggins and Embiid. He came back to Lawrence during the playoffs his rookie season and he was at the same bar I was. NBA was on tv and it was the game where Dame ended the Rockets' season. I asked him if he thought Dame was that dude. He gave me this look like "how dare you ask me that." Some other stuff happened that night too, but I'm not tryna be a chatty patty. But it was a weird exchange. I could see he was already kinda upset about how his career was going
as a Kansas fan who watched him play several times, one thing that stood out to me was that he didnt have great handles....he wasnt gonna break guys down off the dribble and get to the rim very often..his scoring came from 3s, oops and other set plays
Fox's sophomore year was the justification sac needed to have that patience with him. Mclemore never had a season close to that to deserve that patience.
While it’s understandable that he prefers development-friendly coaches, he needed to understand the NBA is a business and that defense is just as important as offense. What good is scoring on folks if they all score back on you all the time?
It never the media saying he could be the ray allen of his class because of his shooting and athleticism. Dude looked,walked & moved like a star nba okayer
And people get mad at players for having a bad attitude. Of course having a bad attitude isn’t the best way to handle any situation but let me throw away your prime years and see how you react.Players have literally been working their whole lives fo get to the NBA.
DeAndre Jordan went to Christian Life Center when I was in HS and we’re in our division. Our first matchup he was academically ineligible to play and we won. A few years later on my little brothers team they play Ben at CLC and Ben was ineligible and we won 😂
1) Ben McLemore was great at Kansas. Ray Allen was goat at UConn. No comparison. 2) I'm surprised that the Players Union didn't block George Karl's induction to the Hall. Karl was toxic to a lot of folk. 3) With all that said, as a pro, you are responsible for your own development, regardless of organization (Kings) and/or coaches, good (Malone) or bad (Karl).
Another player that didn't live up to everyone's expectation. I kind of compare him to Michael Beasley who had a lot of talk going around the draft but never really showed up that anyone talked about.
@@stillsearchin3457 no disrespect I’m saying recent I went against Beal and Ben and Ben lil bruh as well bj young and cam and Jayson Tatum but Ben and Beal just different
Sacramento kings fans will never forget our pizza guy Benny Mac. Also shout out ray mccallum in the beginning walking on the court with him when they got drafted to our weak ass team 😊
Hinkie was the worst in this draft. Two shots to get Giannis and whiffed on both. Hinkie was all about “assets” and tanking so you’d think a raw prospect like Giannis would have been the type of player the sixers could have reached on
True but Giannis was so unknown at the time. Hindsight is always 20-20 and it’s easy to say the Bucks’ front office was genius for picking him. However, it really was just a gamble that paid off tremendously. It’s hard to really blame teams for not seeing what kind of player Giannis would eventually become.
Always felt the hype was too much to match the talent with McLemore. Sacramento reached on him way too high and his career suffered in that circumstance.
Do more players Do Pierre Jackson from Baylor or Keifer skyes Wisconsin Green Bay
Paul McPherson who was all-state in Lake Shore high School in Chicago, went to DePaul with Quinton Richardson, went to Denver and Phoenix Sun's, Won Magic Johnson 1-on-1 MTV Tounamment, READ WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM NOW 😮😮😮
I agree it was a reach at 7. He could have been a solid rotation guy if he went later or waited another season
Whoever scouted him fucked up they said he was a shooter and I knew Ben we played on the same HS team he never was a shooter
Cam Reddish gives me big Ben Mclemore vibes.
I was literally about to type this. They’re one in the same. Both athletic, with good shooting mechanics, similar builds and even hair styles now 😂🤣😂. Both also have been scouted as having low motors and bad work ethics
Cam is way better in defense though
Spot on
Good comparison
@@arpeeh21and can actually dribble
McLemore was a bucket on 2k though
😂😂 if only he could get a max contract from NBA 2K
Nahh frrr bro was gettin me hella assists
Definitely a 2k 13-16 scoring machine
Him, Gerald Green, igoudala. Those dudes with the perfect height, right amount of athleticism, and best jump shot that you could time perfectly .
@@youngblood4127 bruh I can’t remember what 2k it was but the one with igoudola on the nuggets bruh was godly constant 50pt games in play now
Idk why I deadass was thinking bout Ben McLemore yesterday and here we are 😭
Ben McLemore came to my mind few days ago and then this video appeared on my YT algorithm today.
Loool pause but he’s one of those dudes idk why, he’s popped in my head randomly too. He was underrated.
I saw him play in person in high school several times in St.Louis. He and Bradley Beal were in the same graduating class. He made ESPN top 10 with a dunk in a summer league game before his Senior year.
Please do Lamont Murray next, had hops, perfect size for a SG, had decent handles, can shoot, played for bad teams like the clippers and cavs, was solid in the 90s to the early 00s.
"Lamond Murray" 👌🏿
Anthony Edwards is what McLemore should've been. I almost think they're exactly the same player, but one is a superstar and other one just has never had any consistency in anything.
Facts 😂
ant more athletic
@@gohansawyer3907 Ben McBucket had a slightly higher vert
@@gohansawyer3907 i know athleticism doesnt = only vert btw
Edwards has better handle and good enough weights to punish his opponent in the post. McLemore did not have the same level of ball handling and he was rather slender though muscular
I remember they labeled him the next "Ray Allen" coming out of Kansas. That was unfair expectations to put on him..
Been waiting on this one. That one season at KU he had was special. I remember people saying he was Ray Allen with bunnies
Ray had bunnies though..
@@themovements6189facts they forget you ray could put u on a poster
So...just ray Allen then?
Ask T-Mac about Ray Allen's...bunnies 😂😂😂
Just say you didn’t start watching hoop until 2010 😂
Crazy I forgot this man existed.....wow
I was wondering if you ever got around to him.
I remember this brother man. Amazing. He had stupid hops and a really nice jumper.
It boggles the mind how he and other guys from Kansas during this time never had a successful career in the league.
Do you think you could do Perry Ellis sometime?
Without the benefit of knowing how things turned out, I thought Ben McLemore and Bradley Beal were similar players coming out of college. Both 6'3"/6'4". Both were off the ball guards known for their shooting. The irony is both are from St Louis. Both are the same age. But Ben had to sit out a year because of his high school transcript so Bradley got drafted out of college a year before Ben. Bradley got drafted to a team where he could develop and have the green light(Washington). Ben going to the Kings over the course of the years he was there didn't have such freedom. What a difference a year can make on the landscape of the league and who a player gets drafted to. Great video @stuntedgrowth !
Beal learned to create his own shot and kept his jumper. Ben always needed another guy to create the shot or lay up for him
I thought this dude was going to be what Anthony Edwards has become.
Do Kevin Martin as a Growth Spurt !!((Sacramento Kings)) next !!
Kevin Martin didn't have a growth stunt. Drafted in the late 1st round, he really overachieved his draft slot. His skinny frame made it difficult for him on the defensive end and his court vision and passing skills were sub par. But he was a gifted scorer who was extremely efficient from inside and beyond the arc. Along with his ability to draw fouls and shooting nearly 90% at the stripe, he was a borderline all star player during his prime. Unfortunately his skinny frame couldn't withstand the grind and bumps of the NBA, which is why he was injury prone
Kevin martin drafted late first round, had plenty of season where he avg 20+ ppg that doesnt scream bust career to me
@@royalace2271he was also 1 dimensional he did nothing but score he will get u 25 but give up 30
Out of all the Kings picks, you ask for the one actually over performed?
He did good 👍🏼 made hella 💸 😂😂😂
Damn Ben was a bucket back inna day on 2k, Mike Malone a real one too
Great video,Sir. Now, let's discuss that Sherman Douglas video 😊😊😊😊
Ngl, Bill Self can get guys to the league(Embiid, Wiggins) but some of those guys at KU unfortunately didn’t succeed due to their own faults, injuries or development by teams not having guys understand that every play won’t be a home run. The Kings during the late 2000s-early 2020s(pre-2022/23) were some dogshit teams. Management fucked some of those guys over
One of the best SG’s you’ve ever done - detailed on why he didn’t make it both on/off the court. Would love to see one on Ricky Price, Duke SF 1994-1998. Looked like the next great Duke wing after Grant Hill only to end his career in Coach K’s doghouse. Why?
I was a freshman at KU when McLemore played. he was cold there for that season
Man, thanks so much for this. ☮️🙏🏽
Diddy, usher, meek mill smh we got to talk my boy
Lol @@Chineseguyfromtwitter
I clicked on this video so fast.
You should do one about Austin Daye. Dude had a unique game that never seem to pan out...
Honestly, that's probably what happened - he looked unique but wasn't really NBA ready
Watching him in college he was definitely over drafted
Trey Lyles for example was a similar type of unique but he actually did more than just look unique
JT, have done vids on Frank Mason III and Quin Cook? If so could you re-post them? If not could you produce them?
You should do videos on Jay Edwards and James Blackmon. Both were stars from the same high school as Zach Randolph in Marion, IN and both played in the NBA for a second. Love these videos man
James Blackmon wasnt a stunted growth
Welcome back dawg 👊🏽
Arrested this morning 😮
I have been waiting one on Omari Spellman. The man is made for Stunted Growth. Had crazy potential and even was picked above Jalen Brunson. It turned out that the only season he played well was his second year at Villanova, which also happened to be the only season he was able to maintain his weights. Even in Korea, where he won one Championship, his weight issue led him to getting cut very next year
This shows the importance of coaches! A coach is like a team psychologist. You can be talented but coaches are the ones who can see things that players can't see and believe!
One-and-done stories like Ben's are why I always wonder if some guys should stay longer at school. Situation matters, and maybe he could have been a bit better had he stayed longer at Kansas and taken a bit more time to develop. But I guess when you're a lottery pick with immediate millions and (usually) four years to prove yourself, that doesn't exactly matter to most on that level🤷🏾♂️
He was a 2 and done he didn't play his freshman year at Kansas
@@andrebryant5081 he was a redshirt freshman. That's all that matters to the NCAA and the pros
With millions of dollars on the line...living in poverty, with so many people depending on you...would you?
Kansas HARDLY develops players
You have Chalmers, Wiggins and Embiid...everyone else just doesn't do anything
Stanley Johnson too
Bro had potential didn’t really show it in the nba sadly
Had a solid stint as a spot up shooter with the rockets and that was about it
@@bpswank429 yes
@@bpswank429 yea sadly
@@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578 his new legal name is Ben Mclebust
Had he come back for his sophomore year, they'd have him, A. wiggins and Embiid. He came back to Lawrence during the playoffs his rookie season and he was at the same bar I was. NBA was on tv and it was the game where Dame ended the Rockets' season. I asked him if he thought Dame was that dude. He gave me this look like "how dare you ask me that." Some other stuff happened that night too, but I'm not tryna be a chatty patty. But it was a weird exchange. I could see he was already kinda upset about how his career was going
Can you do a growth spurt video on Giannis or Jokic
He did Jokic own already
Do one on Randy Foye
Man, I wanted him so bad in that draft. I remember the young Ray Allen comparison and I was enamored.
as a Kansas fan who watched him play several times, one thing that stood out to me was that he didnt have great handles....he wasnt gonna break guys down off the dribble and get to the rim very often..his scoring came from 3s, oops and other set plays
Def one guy I was 100% sure was gonna be a all-star. Like for sure. My biggest miss ever lol
Been peeping your channel for a few years bro!! Weekly staple. Don’t know you’ve done Samardo Samuels yet. Big Louisville fan, been trash trash 😂.
Do Pokuševski, the white Durant.
Ja, Kaiser Franz. I want it too
bro is NOT the white Durant
This kid had soo much game I loved watching him play at KU
This hurt my heart to watch, def thought he was a ray allen prototype
Do Justin Reed From Jackson Mississippi. Played at Ole Miss. Was all SEC all 4 years.
Steve Logan🗣️let’s get it maaaaan!
Yo JT, we need one on John Wallace and Chris Lykes.
Dfox really came into his own in his fourth year. Mclemore had some solid games but the Kings haven't shown him the same patience.
True but De’Aaron Fox showed signs of stardom in those first three years. Ben McLemore’s career never really got off the ground.
Fox's sophomore year was the justification sac needed to have that patience with him.
Mclemore never had a season close to that to deserve that patience.
Do Micheal Carter Williams next
You gotta make a video on Jared Harper, 5’ 10 guard was a beast in auburn but never got a shit in the nba even though he kinda looked decent in stints
Remember Jalen Rose compared him to Brandon Roy pre injury. Smh
5:06 Can anyone identify these shoes please? I’d love a pair.
The Kings really had a lot of stunted growth candidates
Historically
Don't get that franchise, never developed anyone until very recently
Jeremy Richmond who played for Waukegan High School and played one year for Illinois before going undrafted
Do a stunted growth video on Dell Curry
Do Johnnie Flynn
How 'bout a couple from back in the day? Fennis Dembo and Derrick Chievous!
How went to wellston high school first before it closed down
I forgot about Ben that quick. Damn.
Tony Massenburg……. first player to win a NBA title (2005 Spurs) after playing for twelve different NBA Franchises from the early 90s to mid 00s…..
Hooped with Ben damn near everyday his redshirt year. I got all my off-ball movement from him #RockChalk #KUCMB4L
I feel like this is somebody who still could play with Denver in particular
Do one on Robert Sacre.
Man. This headline speaks to me. I thought he would be the biggest stud from that draft and he ended up being nothing.
While it’s understandable that he prefers development-friendly coaches, he needed to understand the NBA is a business and that defense is just as important as offense. What good is scoring on folks if they all score back on you all the time?
6'3" they listed him at 6'6"🤯🤯🤯
It never the media saying he could be the ray allen of his class because of his shooting and athleticism. Dude looked,walked & moved like a star nba okayer
It's crazy how many ppl jist ignore fundamentals and make it to the league based off talent
the question is: If Khawi Leonard was drafted by the Kings and not the Spurs? would have been the same player?
Yes as long as Khawi invest in his jump shot
Yes you can’t teach dawg
Nope.
And people get mad at players for having a bad attitude. Of course having a bad attitude isn’t the best way to handle any situation but let me throw away your prime years and see how you react.Players have literally been working their whole lives fo get to the NBA.
You should do Josh Howard.
Nahhh I ain’t letting y’all call fam a bust; after his younger brother passed he wasn’t the same on the court.
His jumpshot was nice. Even late in his career for the Lakers
Eric Paschall
DeAndre Jordan went to Christian Life Center when I was in HS and we’re in our division. Our first matchup he was academically ineligible to play and we won. A few years later on my little brothers team they play Ben at CLC and Ben was ineligible and we won 😂
Going from Coach Malone to Coach Karl is da definition of goin backwards. Idk how Karl kept getting jobs when he was notoriously bad w players
Do Jodi Meeks
He was Andrew Wiggins before Andrew Wiggins
cam reddish
Ray Allen
Third video requesting a stunted growth vid on Justin Patton.
1) Ben McLemore was great at Kansas. Ray Allen was goat at UConn. No comparison. 2) I'm surprised that the Players Union didn't block George Karl's induction to the Hall. Karl was toxic to a lot of folk. 3) With all that said, as a pro, you are responsible for your own development, regardless of organization (Kings) and/or coaches, good (Malone) or bad (Karl).
I can imagine had B-Mac been more closer to 6'5 than 6'2, the Kings would've invested in him being their guy.
Another player that didn't live up to everyone's expectation. I kind of compare him to Michael Beasley who had a lot of talk going around the draft but never really showed up that anyone talked about.
Mclemore seems like he's been around forever.
Naw, that white R&B singer blew up from that Microsoft commercial.
Do Sherwood Brown.
Every bucks player after 2008 Micheal redd oj mayo jabari Parker Larry sanders really until Giannis flourished it’s nothing but content
Now do BEN SIMMONS next…
What happened to Nik stauskas
Couldn’t shoot
And when that’s pretty much your best trait…. Yeah not much time in the league
Chris Duarte next 🔥
How u don’t put George Karl as one of the reasons
Honestly whoever scouted Ben should be fired that was the first mistake. When did he become a shooter? Thats ridiculous
Him and Beal are the best St. Louis hooper ever
Larry Hughes was cold too
@@stillsearchin3457 no disrespect I’m saying recent I went against Beal and Ben and Ben lil bruh as well bj young and cam and Jayson Tatum but Ben and Beal just different
Sacramento kings fans will never forget our pizza guy Benny Mac. Also shout out ray mccallum in the beginning walking on the court with him when they got drafted to our weak ass team 😊
I always mix mclemore, maccallum, and garret temple together
@@rudyardganuelas6254 nvm I guess some of us do forget 😂 they were all just as weak so I don’t blame you lol
Do Isaiah hicks next
Just 6'3 wont get it without development skill set 4-6 days a week. Gotta lock in
Kings during that time were such a terrible organization. Malone is now a champion coach and it was clear then that he should’ve stuck around
You should do Thomas Robinson 🔥
Kansas doesn't develop players well
A could've sworn he did one on T-Rob already.
He ain't last cuz he 1 dimensional. What else can he do besides score. That's y he overseas Js
Hinkie was the worst in this draft. Two shots to get Giannis and whiffed on both. Hinkie was all about “assets” and tanking so you’d think a raw prospect like Giannis would have been the type of player the sixers could have reached on
True but Giannis was so unknown at the time. Hindsight is always 20-20 and it’s easy to say the Bucks’ front office was genius for picking him. However, it really was just a gamble that paid off tremendously. It’s hard to really blame teams for not seeing what kind of player Giannis would eventually become.
I Remember Kawhi Took The Ball From Him On Back To Back Plays 🤣🤣😩
Boy Ant Edwards plays how I thought Ben was gone be
Him Evans and cousins would have been 🔥
It's funny because people rip the Kings for their bad picks and the bad picks blame The Kings for their failure
Ben is 6’5