How Did the 2021 White Sox Fall Apart So Fast?
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The 2021 White Sox were one of the greatest teams in franchise history. Not even three years later, the 2024 squad might end up being the worst.
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Here for the pokemon music
I’m here for the Pokémon music and the baseball
I was wondering about that LOL. i did not expect that
I come for the baseball, I stay for the Pokémon lofi.
Gen 4 pokemon music is just as nostalgic as baseball
And power pros lol. My childhood coming back
The fact this team is so badly handled that it led their *TV play by play guy* Jason Benetti, a talented broadcaster, to leave for a division rival, in large part due to Reinsdorf being the egotist he is, shows just how far they fell so fast.
Pretty sure he was fired, not just him being so disgusted that he gave up.
@@sendAJtospace Its been reported differently since he still had time on his contract, either he left or was let go, but regardless of which it was over a burned bridge with management.
Its come out that he was bullied for his disability from other sox staff.
what sucks the most is, as a kid when asked what he wanted to do when he grew up, he said he wanted to be a white sox sportscaster, as long as he didnt have to look like harry caray... :(
@@TitimahhNot true any of this. We are friends with the benettis when we asked his parents when we went over to their house they simply said, "The Whitesox and Tigers made a mutual agreement to send Jason to the Tigers. The contract the tigers offered was way better than the one the Sox gave him." Quit spreading false information
Life long White Sox fan here: the main reason why it fell apart is because the owner Jerry Reinsdorf. He's cheap and doesn't like to take risks, Benintendi is the highest White Sox contract in team history at $75 mil. They didn't offer Bryce Harper enough, Machado etc. The rebuild started with the tear down and the restructuring was good, but it was KILLED by never signing a big name free agent vet to bring it all together, a superstar if you will, AND the firing of Ricky Renteria in 2020 for TLR. The team was built and brought up with Renteria at the helm. Not necessarily for him, but he was essentially the dad for these guys. Then bam Grandpa comes in to replace him and the vibe changes. How that 2021 team excelled at all is proof that there was talent there. With the right motivation, leader and environment, that '21 team could've been better and this video wouldn't exist. ...btw great video jolly felt good to watch something that wasn't 100% making fun of them
As an Angels fan, I feel you. Cheapo owners should be banned. We need guys willing to spend on player development (pitching labs and hitting labs), superstars, and treating minor league players like people.
All fax 📠
How does a bad owner account poor defence, players you already bought underperomring, and so on
@@zaneplatt3533 Not paying for good coaches is how. U can have really talented players, but if they have bad fundamentals, they are gonna make errors.
They realized they had the division locked at the end of May & coasted the rest of the year. LaRussa couldn’t keep them motivated for 162, & it caused them to come out completely flat in the playoffs
What La Rusa did to destroy Yermin Mercedes confidence and basiclly career is boderline criminal lol...
I wished they kept Renteria. Mercedes will probably be playing in 2024.
@@salvatorepulcrano9005
I’m cooked. For some reason I thought you meant Edgar.
Tony LaRussa killed their locker room. Idc that he’s not there anymore. That team died when he got mad about a 3-0 count home run hit by his own player
It’s called being old and the game passing you by
Tony didn’t kill the team, JR did when he didn’t resign Renteria as Manager
@@OGStuDogg they played so hard for rick, and most of the free agents refused to sign here after that
As a cubs fan I remember being really happy that both the cubs and sox were doing really well and leading their divisons. I remember buying tickets for the crosstown rivalry game after the trade deadline only for the cubs to start sucking and trading away almost every piece from their WS contention days. I hope the sox stay in Chicago and they get an owner that cares about the team.
you’re one of the few cubs fans who wants them to stay in chicago and likes when both teams are competitive, i mean throughout history these teams are rarely good at the same time for both to have world series ambitions in the same season, and i almost guarantee when this cubs team today falls apart that’s when the sox will be good again, it’s just a cycle of both teams going up and down at different times
I agree. Chicago 💪
@@youwereprettylasttimeisawy1227 they deserve to be in Chicago. I hope both the Northside and Southside prosper for the awesome years to come
2023 was the White Sox worst start to a season since 1948
So far
2024 for sure will be the worst season for the Sox since 1970
I interviewed with the White Sox for a ticket sales trainee position a couple months ago and I got rejected. Honestly I'm glad that they did.
Like when I applied for K-Mart and didn't get the job. Only to feel somewhat relieved when I noticed K-Mart was bankrupt and closing stores..
The Benintendi signing (on paper) made sense. The White Sox let Abreu walk because they already had too many 1B/DH types (Vaughn, Sheets, Burger, Jimenez). Signing Benintendi allowed the White Sox to move Vaughn (atrocious OFer) to 1B, where he'd presumably be a bit better or at least equal to Abreu defensively, and leaving the DH spot open for Eloy (which would hopefully keep him healthier). The White Sox upgraded two positions defensively. They probably should have been more wary of Benintendi's power decline in 2022, but it kinda made sense.
I was never really fully in on the White Sox core. I didn't think Cease or Giolito would ever develop into SPs at the time they were acquired. Offensively, almost all of the hitters they were developing were strict corner guys (Jimenez, Vaughn, Burger, Sheets, and to a lesser extent Moncada). Jimenez and Vaughn both had lowish walk rates, highish K rates, and really poor defense. There were no up the middle prospects except for Robert, who also had a really scary K:BB ratio. It just didn't feel like a team that was going to be assembled correctly, especially with ownership being unwilling to spend and management not being the savviest traders. They only spent on mid-range vets who were already on the older side (Grandal, Lynn, Keuchel, Graveman, Kelly, and I guess you could kinda put Hendriks in this category too). Those players all broke down over the lifetime of their contracts and ownership/management wasn't able/willing to do enough to replace them.
Hahn/Williams/Getz are all about 20 years behind the times. Even the '05 White Sox were a very "old-school" team and Hahn/Williams tried to recreate that lightning in a bottle until they got fired. They refused to compensate for flaws in players that even casual fans of today could recognize. They didn't account for the aging curves of players in the post-steroid era. They didn't account for guys like Tim Anderson, Yoan Moncada, and Andrew Benintendi only being useful players if they could consistently run an unsustainable BABIP. They failed to dumpster dive for players with useful traits who could be acquired for cheap and instead gave out big-ish contracts to relievers and put veterans like Elvis Andrus in the starting lineup. (I actually think the inability to find useful depth pieces to cover for the injuries that any team is going to experience was the main source of failure in this contention window. The White Sox started a lot of hopelessly bad players in the last couple years). They rightfully got rid of Hahn and Williams and replaced them with a guy who's only goal is to make the White Sox a retirement home for former Royals players/staff. I genuinely think they've been the most incompetently run team in baseball for at least the past 10 years
What he said
I look at it a bit differently. The ‘05 White Sox were pitching, defense, and the three run homer. But ever since then they’ve been half baked rosters exploiting a weak division and trend chasers.
Hiring rejected former KC Royals isn’t a winning game plan. I say that as a life long Royals fan
I noticed the same thing as another lifelong Royals fan. Nicky Lopez, Andrew Benintendi, Martin Maldonado, the list goes on
Can’t wait for them to hire Matheny
@@warlordofbritannia honestly Matheny wasn’t THAT bad (he wasn’t good but still)
My local team is the White Sox's Single A team. They're also bad.
The smart move at the deadline would have been to ship off Anderson for some rookie ball player or something.
Instead, the geniuses ship off Burger and Anderson gets to walk onto free agency. So, they lose a guy they could build around and get nothing from Anderson not being around. Genius White Sox moves
Burger is overrated as shit. Bro had 1/2 of a good season where he had a babip like 100 points higher than he had at all in his career before. Plus they had no where to play him given Benintendi Vaughn Moncada and Eloy
@@ryanjacobs836I'd take Burger and control thru 2027 over Moncada and his 20+million salary everyday, any day. Burger also had fun when he played, unlike the bored, entitled superstar wannabe Moncada
Anderson had 0 trade value last season. They would've been lucky to get a bag of balls for him at the deadline last year.
@@Gnar_Dogg with the amount of potential upside he has, a rental trade could have gotten them at least a rookie ball player.
Truly impressive how fast this team has collapsed but I know from personal experience this is due to ownership and being poorly run. Talent can rarely overcome that sort of stuff
Wake up babe new Happy Grape just dropped
In defense of Lenin Sosa, his OPS+ is still higher than Jose Abreu and he somehow continues to get starts.
I recognize pokemon music anywhere ‼️
Same!
Jolly is here putting on an absolute CLINIC with the background music choices
Life long fan. Many more bad years than good. This last two have just been brutal. Jason Benetti leaving was a harbinger. Throwing away Jake Burger another. Keeping Grifol another. They had the chance to have Bochy lead them, went cheap, and he goes to Texas and….World Series. We hire a rookie and struggle, keep him another year and 4-21 start. They are virtually unwatchable.
Really random but thank you for putting the music you used in the description, I've been looking for that Pokemon Colosseum track for YEARS before I clicked on this video
As a Sox fan who remembers all of this vividly I watched the whole thing anyway because I'm a masochist. Great stuff Jolly! Also this is a minor thing but it's a common theme in some of your work, sometimes you need to double check the pronunciation of player names lol it's Le-NEEN Sosa not LEN-in, BEN-it Sousa not Bin-ETT, and Kyle Stowers rhymes with Flowers, not Mowers. I hate to be that guy but it is important to get that right! I believe every team has a "Pronunciation Guide" page under the "Roster" tab on their official website with audio clips of every player saying their name which I find very helpful. Again just a minor critique though, I love your videos!
Thanks for making this man. It gets sad and tiring now with everything about them bad now. It was there to had, they were very good but it went away just as fast. I don't remember a team that was or could be as good as them and it just turn to shit so fast. Feels like we missed something special.
love when jolly grape uploads
You should do a video of what the white Sox team would look like today if they didn’t traded away everyone
knowing the sox, everyone would’ve just been injured or just like 2021 have a one off season
Maybe the most comedically timed WTF I've ever experienced. Thank you.
great video, legendary music 🥵
Gotta say, I love the Renegades hat on the desk
Great Video. Maybe it's because i'm not a White Sox fan but to me the collapse seemed to come out of nowhere at the time. On a more positive note the young Catcher Korey Lee seems to be pretty talented and i think Mike Soroka will be a solid starter in the future, don't know if that will happen this year but i think it will happen.
Love the music choice
hey jolly, as a diamondbacks fan i think it would be cool to relive an amazing 2011 season for ian kennedy. came up as a starter, had a few decent seasons before absolutely exploding in 2011, only to come back down to earth and bounce around as a reliever the rest of his career
Great video Mr. Olive! Shame you’re aligned with Jomboy though
Love the Pokémon soundtracks in the background in the last few vids!
I recognize Platinum music anywhere!
great video
Goated just for the background music
Some other things that went unmentioned that show how disastrous this organization is:
Oscar Colas flopping.
Korey Lee flopping.
Gavin Sheets flopping.
Andrew Vaughn never making the jump to being a big power bat.
Michael Kopech falling apart.
Jose Ruiz falling apart.
Aaron Bummer falling apart.
The Yermin Mercedes fiasco.
Lance Lynn & Keynan Middleton talking loads of shit about the Whitesox after getting traded.
Benintendi being insanely mid after getting paid.
Garrett Crochet constantly being hurt.
Luis Patiño constantly being hurt.
After finally firing Kenny & Hahn, they just promoted Chris Getz in-house, dooming this franchise to laughing stock status until they hit absolutely everything and start over
The Sox and Bulls will never take that next step until Jerry sells the team to someone who wants to win.
Missing piece is Tim Anderson 💀
That was Ricky Renteria’s team. Letting him go for LaRussa was baseball malpractice.
Cannot wait for the video on the lost potential that was the toronto blue jays
The Sox were terrible before TLR and terrible after he left.
I am Tony's Strongest Soldier: Fire Grifol and put Tony back in the dugout.
They had a bunch of players who could hit really well who couldn’t field and were way too injury prone. A bunch of DHs isn’t going to help you win in the long term.
Their roster construction was terrible even when they won in 2021
Amazing song choice
Somehow I missed the video of the fan calling for Engel, that killed me. 😂
Jerry Reinsdorf, boom saved everyone 16 mins. Haha, still great video.
Jolly please do a video on Jose Abreu’s amazing start to the season!
Never get the fan that called into a radio station and went on like a 6min uninterrupted rant. “Our best hitter is JAKE BURGER”.
They traded him for nothing!
I play MLB 9 innings and it's great.
Not sure if u already have but u should cover angels deadline last year, giving up 2 top prospects for a month of giolito/lopez plus the other moves was madness
Before even watching the video as a White Sox fan I know the answer. Pitching it's pitching 2020 short season they lost to the A's (Yes they were good then)because of lack of pitching as in a game 3 (If I remember correctly Dane Dunning threw 1 inning then Garrett Crochet was injured and left them scrambling) 2021 made it to the playoff's facing the Astros problem starters The Astros ate up Lance Lynn, then both Giolito and Cease started strong in the first but then pitched scared after that getting ahead but then would walk guys after starting the count 0-2/1-2 trying to get the Astros to chase junk and they did not. Inexperience not having the confidence to the kryptonite. 2022 Off field problems carried onto the field for T.A. 2023 I believe they had something like 49 blown leads so yeah and the pen had a near 5 era. 2024 just tears (Edit was wrong year typo)
Now to watch the video!
All I will say the Reds went 3-22 in 2022 so things can change fast
You have to do this years Marlins team because holy crap lol
As a Sox fan, I want to cry
HUGE sox fan here myself. Yes…how far we have fallen. Just glad I got to soak in as much of 2021 as possible and am very lucky I made the choice to go to both home playoff games in October. Good times….but god help us now
Still one of the sickest City Connect uni's out there
6:12 $44 million not $24 million
As a white sox and warehouse fan, man this video hurts. I thank you warehouse for providing alternate entertainment for me as this team is just so so painful and depressing.
Eterna city theme goes hard🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️
The only other time I’ve seen a negative OPS+ was the beginning of this season when Javy Baez had a -6 OPS+ before Tigers fans heckled him into hitting again
The owner's favorite player is David Eckstein. While other teams are trying to find the next Pujols or Griffey Jr, the Sox leadership is trying to find the next Eckstein. That's why fans like me are stuck watching Lopez, Vaughn, Benintendi, and Fletcher lose at a historic rates. Team is full of short, slow, and weak players.
Lance Lynn didn't lose all his value. A bunch of teams were interested in him and he knew he was going to be traded he said so on foul territory. There were a ton of articles about how teams were interested because of his high strikeout rate and hoping the home runs were a fluke. It was dumb, he sucked. Just cause you don't get strikeouts doesn't mean you're good and just cause you're getting a ton of strikeouts doesn't mean you're not bad. He was was worse than bad, awful with the White Sox and was about league average for the Dodgers with too many bombs. If this was 10 years ago he doesn't get traded.
Basically their core was never healthy together after 2020. And 2021 was coasting off of unsustainable randoms production (Hamilton Goodwin Yermin etc)
8:23 i knew what you were talking about instantly, this game was so painful to watch
man every clip of tony made me laugh or made me mad, he was so awful too
D/P/Pt music goes so hard
The Pokemon Diamond/Pearl soundtrack brings a lot of joy to me 😊😊
Was listening in the background and yet I knew what that game was vs the twins. Iconic moments in Byron Buxton history.
Aa a White Sox fan, its like a train wreck. I want to not watch the games but I'm always compelled to just to see how much worse it can get. The suspense is killing me.
Pokemon Colosseum OST? Ok, Jolly. You're a real one.
I'd imagine the balanced schedule starting in 23 didn't do them any favors either
I got engaged in 2021 at a White Sox game. The White Sox lost, but I'm not a Sox fan so it didn't bother me 🤣
Tony Larussa killed it all. Hahn had a handshake deal with AJ Hi ch to become the next manager and Reinsdorf overruled it and took Larussa. There was a post with Larussas face on it and AJs name lol. But at least the gram system is completely revitalized and there is finally hope once again. Just hope they actually spend money to supplement that
The Chris Sale trade was probably one of their only good moves. They were a team trending downward, and they got a hug prospect haul for a guy with 2 years of control left. The prospects have somewhat panned out, and you can't really blame them for injuries/the organization's larger failures
Feel like omitting that Reinsdorf (the actual problem and a longtime villain in MLB history) was too lazy to do a real GM search so he just promoted Chris Getz from within was a big miss
1. Never spending the money to go all in and build around the young team (this resulted in trading key players like Dane Dunning and Nick Madrigal for decent players on cheaper contracts)
2. Hiring a dinosaur team manager 10+ years removed from the game because he was buddies with the owner when there were 3-4 rock solid candidates that never even got an interview
3. One of the worst conditioning staffs/injury luck I’ve seen in the entire history of any professional sports
4. Massive lack of success with more recent prospects… and then hiring the guy who was in charge of player development to be our new gm lmao
That’s all I got. Being a White Sox fan these past couple years has been absolute BRUTAL and I don’t think anything will really change until the owner finally dies
OUCH!
Cleveland’s radio guy, Tom Hamilton, had such a great call for the Ramirez-Anderson card.
DOWN GOES ANDERSON! DOWN GOES ANDERSON!
Shut up. No one cares about the Cleveland announcers call. Don't you have some old hustler magazines that need your attention?
11:00 😮 JOLLY OLIVE!! This clip is from the wrong year?!?!?! Walker wasn't on the Phillies until 2023!!
The curse of throwing at Altuve in game 4 of the 2021 ALDS
Braves legend Reynaldo Lopez mentioned
I forgot How elite that staff was!! It's like looking at the 2019 Nats now... You're like " WTFF"?! Soto, Turner, Rendon ( cough cough) , Stras, Mad Max, Bryce, Reamealto, Werth, Bell, 2 other's im forgetting, Hudson ( who's starting to catch fire in LAD after sloppy start) etc. Besides Rendon probably, the Nats would be elite today. Tho Sox would still suck even if they had that rotation still. Lol
The 2021 white Sox are literally the 2018 bears
As a fan of the white Sox myself it’s an embarrassing season to watch but I will always stay loyal and I hope we find success in the near future but knowing this franchise that’s a unlikely dream
Tony La Russa happened
And the highest they can pick next year is 10th because they're a "large market" team
All because their owner won’t pay for players doesn’t mean they can’t
Salvador Perez hit 48 home runs in 2020 so the Grandal stat was incorrect
As a Tigers fan, I had a mighty solid laugh watching their downfall
Reminder: White Sox CANNOT pick inside the top 10 this year due to MLBs new draft lottery rules. LOL
It’s not hard to figure out. They let their leader go in abreu. They let don cooper ruin multiple first round pitchers in fulmer and burdi. They picked Zack Collins at catcher in round one and then put him behind guys. They put LaRussa in charge of a team that needed to be run by Ozzie. Team still needs to be run by Ozzie. And now the ownership is trying to see if they can complete the major league movie goal by having a team so bad they could possibly move them
Oscar Colas was the starting right fielder last year and going to be a star, and is mired in AAA for an organization that might be the worst in history. Lenyn Sosa. This org is rotten from the core.
This video makes me so sad 🥲 I had so much fun this year. Went to 9 games and I live three hours away. Even with the dumpster fire we are now I’ll never forget 2021
big pokemon platinum guy today
People said they were going to dominate every single year from 2019 to 2022 for literally no reason. I never understood it.
Jolly olive can u make another video of Royce Lewis
Hey Jolly, can we get a Johan Santana in his prime video? Please? Don't Mess with the Johan.
How did the Jolly Good Fellas go winless the entire Slapball season? These things just happen.
When is the Jolly Olive Pokémon Colosseum let’s play
No mention of the legendary radio caller?
Did they fall off or did they just over achieve for 1 year in a terrible AL central
Came for the baseball, stayed for the Pokemon music
The White Sox of 2024 is what we expected the A’s to be this year
What Reinsdorf has done to the White Sox is absolutely criminal. So sick of these billionaire owners deliberately tanking their teams because the cities they play in don't want to foot the bill for a new stadium when the one the team currently plays in is less than 30-years old. It's absolutely despicable.
It all starts with one man. And his name is Jerry.
The TRADE that 100% wrecked all of it in 2021,,,Nick Magridgal for Kimbrel. They had it man,,and bringing kimbrel with an already great rhythm bullpen,messed the momentum, the cohesiveness they had which is so frck'n crucial and underestimated,,,followed by losing a sparkplug in nick was perfect in a high powered lineup. I knew it right away!! Said something at work the next day and most laughed,,, well it turned out true, just self destructed their chance that year and the rest is history. They flew to close to the sun , tried to finesse and fine tune a great team. I was so ticked.. it took a while to get over the tatis jr. Trade now this ,,, kamikazi'd their season, and future. ... they had a fun team that year,, what ashame and i wished i was prooven wrong. . . Will have a looooong rebuilding procesq,, will lose alot of fans and i could see them moving team unfortunately.
Everyone trashed Larussa hiring but they looked better under him than any other time the last 5 years 😅
He intentionally walked Corey Seager with the bases loaded when they were losing. His favor of tradition over his guys played a part in sapping all the momentum out of Mercedes' career. It was a bad hire and they had this good season in spite of him and not because of him. The AL Central has been a trash division for years anyway that almost never fields more than one good team, which suggests whoever wins it tends to have an inflated record.
It was supposed to be Ricky Renteria's team. The reason they crashed out in '22 is because of TLR
Like a vampire he sucked the life and future also the fun out of this team
@@bmac4 say what you will, and I agree about the AL central always being pretty garbage, but I tell no lies. They did better under LaRussa than any season in like a decade.