REAL METAL Good Samaritan Prop Bullets! | HELLBOY
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- After assembling and painting the stunning Good Samaritan kit from Volpin Props, Bill decided it would be really fun to try and create new bullets using his metal lathe! He also includes replica packaging from the movie and amazing tiny details.
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Amazing build and honestly your lathe is perfect as is.
Adam Savage has a Shenwai Cheftain 15 x 40 not Southbend.
a little tip for whent turning brass or other matterial that likes to spat up in your face.
put the cutting tool upside down so it sprays down in the collecting bin.
really loved this build and it got me fired up to make a hollow keyhanger .
thank you for the entertainment and wisdom you share
Great build. Just a quick question, if you were going to paint over the colour printing on the card, why not stick the printed label over the painted side, leaving you with nice clean card on the reverse?
Are those DRO’s addons to the lathe?
I like how Hellboys bullets come individually wrapped in recyclable packaging, nice touch.
Isn't that fun?
Saving the planet means more than just fighting abominations from beyond space and time, aye.
@@punishedprops it feels like "different kinds of bullets for different foes. Vampires need x while demons or fairies need something else entirely.
I just surprised that they were so generic. I figured they would have cool product design down at the unspeakable horror ammo shop. I know they are screen accurate and government issue as per the lore but, imagine what they would look like if paintball companies carried them.
"it's all sanding?" *Bill with his many, many space guns* "always was"
Hahahahaha
“Might get a little loud” (metal bullet squeals in agony as a man peels his flesh with a sharp blade)
As he uses a parting tool at WAY too high a speed!
@@tzkelley With WAY too much stick out!
Tool stick out that is.
I love the different approach’s to the same problem from you and Adam. This is a much more approachable build with similar quality results.
Thanks so much!
Such a nice build with a lot of mesmerizing processes involved! The packaging really completed this build
Thanks so much!
Loved the video. Keep leaving in the multiple attempts to show:
1. No-one is perfect
2. How to deal with "almost there" attempts.
Thanks so much for watching!
I see Punished Props new video and the day is already better :D
We're so glad you enjoyed it!
A few tips for cutting off parts: a slower spindle speed will help reduce the deflection and that high pitch noise. You should also only have the cutoff tool sticking out of the holder barely longer than necessary to increase rigidity. A lubricant will also help a lot in cutoff operations to help reduce heat from the friction. Also, I don't know if your lathe is capable of doing it, but aligning the compound with the direction of the cut will increase rigidity even more. You were right in that the height of the tool itself is critical and should be at the center or just below the center of the part. It is important to know that high speed steel tools cut at a much slower speed than carbide as carbide likes to go fast given how hard and brittle it is as a material. All this will help extend the life of your tools. Excellent work though! It came out great!
Thanks so much!
Another great video. You do take pride in your work and it shows. Walk away, Bill. LOL, I sometimes have to remind myself that too.
Thanks so much for watching, and let things dry!!
7:59 the sped up “There we go!” was hilarious, i love watching you both work on these cool projects and hope a new big game that’s fallout levels of popular and awesome that can inspire future builds and costumes!!
Thanks so much for watching! We're really glad you're enjoying our content :)
0:38 the banterly call/shoutout to Mr. Savage made my day. i love to see youtubers i follow independently have a good friendship. warms my heart. thank you.
Thanks so much for watching!
Bill and Britt are AWESOME as always! Loved the vacuform packaging part of this video, I learned a lot!
As a children's wear graphic artist toiling away on designs at home during this pandemic, I thought I'd thank you for posting and sharing your amazing skills and creativity! I watch your videos while working and your creative spirit inspires me! Perhaps someday I too will endeavor to attempt some fabrication of this sort but to watch your process is therapy! Thank you and be well!
Hey that's fantastic! We're so glad to hear you're enjoying our content and it's helping you do your work!
There’s something to be said for anyone that can make awesome stuff from material. There is something even more to be said about someone who can make things using tools and material available to the common person on a budget.
Thanks for watching!
The whole thing looks great...and the acid etch looks RIDICULOUSLY AWESOME! Nice job!
Thank you so much!
"That's the shiniest thing ever!"
Does anyone wanna get Kyle Hill on that?
Thanks for watching!
That lathe is the cutest thing I've ever seen! 😂 Great job on that bullet, looks super clean! :)
Thanks so much!
Awesome build super impressed with the really crisp acid etch.
Thanks very much!
What a great project, nice work!!! It was really fun to watch you make the same prop as Adam but using different processes. And that blister pack is sweet!
Thanks so much! I really appreciate you watching!
YOU MADE MY FAVORITE CHILD HOOD MEMORIES THAT ME AND MY UNCLE WOULD WATCH IN EARLY MORNING SATURDAYS! THIS IS SIMPLY TO AMAZING!
That's wonderful!
Really nice work, it's fun to add every detail possible!
Thank you so much for watching!
The parting tool was sticking out way too far and you were running too fast. I could see the whole tool post bending forward!
One trick, if the chuck is bolt on, it to run the parting blade upside down and the spindle in reverse. If the cutter starts to bind, it now flexes out of the cut.
i agree with Paul way too much stick out and too fast for parting the parting tool should only stick out just enough to make it thru the part your cutting off. and same on the knurl tool too fast slow it down and oil on the knurls and a tooth brush constantly brush the knurls on the part it helps remove any tiny flakes of metal so they don't bind and mangle your knurls. also tighten your Gib screws on your cross slide and compound even if the machine was abused there no excuse to abuse the poor thing more. also when parting if you snug the compound slide gibs snug so it wont move it helps with the flexing and vibrations. just a couple of tips from a couple of old machinist. Mr Paul Compton impressive workshop you have and love the vintage bikes.
Thanks so much for the tips!
@@punishedprops I had a similar quick change tool post and swapped it to an all steel OXA wedge type tool post off Amazon. It was like getting a whole new lathe! The inexpensive aluminum piston type tool posts will cause you no end of frustration. It is seriously worth the money at about $120 to $200 right now. Even the cheapest one will make your life easier. The size you need is OXA and the number you are looking for is 250 - 000 for the post and the tool holders will say something like 250 - 001, 250 - 002 etc. If you see 250 -100 that is AXA and bigger than your machine can use. I mention this because they tend to have them in the same listing and it is easy to get the wrong one. "Real" machinists have great knowledge, but don't always know the hobby machine struggles. This is one of them. Good vid as always.
I agree with everything that Paul and John have said, and would suggest two other things.
1. The press bars on your carriage are too loose. The press bars hold the carriage on the lathe bed and are usually adjusted by screws underneath and a set screw on top. You may have to remove the compound, cross slide and apron to access the adjustment screws. Adjust the press bars until there is a slight bit of resistance to moving the carriage, but no binding.
2. Buy a carriage lock for the lathe. Position the parting blade for the cut and then lock the carriage before starting the parting operation. Here is an inexpensive carriage lock that should fit your lathe: littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=2977&category=
Bill I finally got my first 3d printer . Bed levelling is a pain in the but but the first prop I'm going to build on it is the Samaritan cause I love it as much as you do and you inspired me to embark on this mission you are a big inspiration of mine thanks for ever amazing video 😊
Heck yeah!! Have a blast and share what you make with us on Twitter: twitter.com/chinbeard
Do yourself a favour and get a feeler gauge. They are usually used to set spark plug gaps on cars, but they are great for setting the gap between the print bed and the nozzle. They are cheap too. Only one or two [insert monitory unit] from local auto store or online auction site.
Very nice! Always love it when I see a video from you guys. Also, level up on the lathe work!
Thanks for watching!
Thats awesome. I have been watching A.S.'s Samaritan builds and love his storage box, but i really like the idea of a couple vacu-sealed prepackaged bullets on a wall. Love the idea that that's how Hellboy gets them from the government.
Thanks so much for watching!
Wicked job! The backing card seriously sells the whole thing!
Cool, isn't it?
Awesome finished product and thank you for taking my mind off of the madness of the world and providing some escapism!
You're so welcome! We're glad you enjoy our content!
im so glad you work with Metric measurements, im a first year fabricator apprentice and i love making stuff, i do plan on making the mandalorian helmet you vid a video on awhile back but i can follow you process in your vids a lot easier than if you were using imperial measurements. thanks a lot :D
I try to use metric whenever I can :)
Ah, I love tuning in to "This Old Bill"
Life goals tbh
Amazing work as per usual! I remember Adam Savage saying brass likes to grab so I think you're little lathe did well, all considering 😀
Thank you so much!
Really like the real-time lathe work, seems like most youtube videos show it via a time-lapse, helps get a better feel for how much time/patience/precision is necessary.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@punishedprops I have to agree, seeing the project being worked on is so much better than a time-lapse with cheesy royalty free music dubbed over. I'm looking at you Tested.
Damn Bill , if you start doing some proper metal work , you'll be the most polyvalent Prop Builder out there !!
Finally someone who uses each and every tool available at his disposal and doesn't stick to a single material :D
I am a firm believer that every material has a thing it's best at and it's to your benefit to use them as needed! Thanks for watching :)
@@punishedprops You're welcome !
I wish i had the tools to work with metal , it gives such a "professionnal" , sturdiness and durability quality to props :)
The purity of your euphoria adds so much to the quality of this video. Thumbs up³ Please reckon that you are now publicly CD-Certified and that a CD-Certificate is much harder to get than a CE-Certificate as it cannot be bought with money.
Excellent way to start the year!
We're pretty stoked about it!
Painting the back of the card was a nice touch.
It did turn out kind of nice didn't it?
Not that I'm surprised - you both always put out quality end results. But that was beautiful.
Thank you so much!
Excellent Bill. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
there are ball cutting tools for lathes, its a cutter on a rotating joint. you can set the diameter you want. if you set a larger diameter than the size of the stock and drop the tool axis below the stock centre you can very easily cut that bullet shape. tool wise there are ones that replace the tool post and others that fit into the tool holders. its a really fun tool to play with
Ooh very cool, thanks for sharing!
Very good job there!! Can't get over it how real it looks 😮
I've also have a request: Can you do the mask of "Darth Revan" in the future? This would be awesome!
Have a nice day ^^
Thanks so much for watching!
Thanks for letting us know you're interested in that build! We have our current schedule worked out, but there could be room for this kind of video in future plans.
I bet Adam would love to get one of those sealed ones in the mail XD
Great idea, but posting bullet shaped objects through the US postal system right now in January 2021 might not be the greatest idea.
Unless maybe you want to meet a real FBI agent.
Not a big HBoy fan but wow.. you did a great job on this!
Very entertaining. Thanks.
Cheers!
Thank you so much for watching!
Looks soooo Great !
Looks like newly bought. ;- )
Looks so awesome :D Great work
Thanks so much!
I don't know how I missed the blister packs in the film lol I love that so much.
Totally interested in that PKD Blaster kit you have hanging back there...
Bill created his own version of the PKD, you can purchase the digital files from the website :)
That is SO cool. You rock.
Thanks so much!
I quite like the DRO, it looks like it's just a reformatting of the simple but very reliable, accurate, precise, and repeatable mechanism used in those cheap Chinese digital calipers. Big Clive did a teardown of one recently, and the mechanism is surprisingly elegant and robust.
Cool!
As a student learning machine trades using huge clausing lathes i really like how well that little bench lathe runs! If you had hss blanks you could have ground a general profile to use
Also quick note. We run all parting tools at 100rpm. Would probably go a but higher with aluminum but not much. And use lots of fluid!
Thanks so much for the tips! And yeah, this little thing runs surprisingly well, I've been enjoying it
Really fun little build! If you have not already, you should send some of the backing cards and blister packs over to Adam Savage to help him complete his collection. Also, I would use regular poster board that you can get at a dollar store for the backing, saves you from having to spray paint the backs.
Totally! We had the other cardboard laying around so we used it :) Thanks for watching!
Hey Bill, with a little finger drill and a 0.5mm bit at the point and two bottom corners of the bullet shape on the buck, you would get an imperceptible dimple and an assist with the spider webbing.
Thanks!
Bill : Wimpy little lathe
Me : Cordless drill in a black and decker workmate.
Mood
love the little lathe, I wish I had one, but quick and dirty they make brass shotgun shells
It's served me well :)
If you don't have the machinery, you can get 8 gauge brass shotgun shells (21.2mm internal diamter) and load up a cut down 20mm Oerlikon AA gun projectile. The projectiles are completely inert and even have a threaded tip so you can remove it. That was so they could put in the timer/fuse and explosive charge. I keep 1/16" d6 in mine. :)
Neat idea!
Good work Bill, when i am grown up i will have some day an lathe in my workshop.
uhhh i see u got a Ice Pick from Diresta, fancy
Yeah! Great goals!
Im waiting 4 years for you to completing the robot arm !
Fan-flipping-tastic . . . now i am off to purchase a mini lathe :)
Woohoo!!
If you are going to hang that by the hole, I'd recommend putting some plastic around the hole on the back side. Years of retail says only products with strong hanging holes stay on the hooks.
Thanks for the tip!
Awesome! I need one of those!
It's literally the best. I brought one home to play with
@@punishedprops i need both the bullet and the lathe ;)
Another hopefully helpful tip for the parting tool (or any cutting tool) and brass. Brass is very "grabby" so your cutting tools for brass should have very little back rake. The top edge of your tool should be flat and not have the relief cut or back rake. this will help a lot. I know tooling can get expensive but having a set of steels just for brass can be beneficial if you're cutting a lot of it! Thank you for your videos!
Hey thanks for the tip! We really appreciate you watching our content :)
Cut a soda can up for protecting your part from the jaws also works.
Great tip!
How often does one use an acid brush for actual acid? :)
I bet you have the technology to make a real wooden grip for that puppy too. :D
The one comment I was going to make was on the primer (in the bullet cartridge), but in your display model at the end the free cartridge looks more realistic with the primer looking to be of a different metal. With my fake bullets I've just drilled holes and dropped in steel pins for the primer, but what ever you did, seems to do the job. Is that one the prototype you made earlier? I may need to rewatch that.
Yeah I made that 2nd one with an aluminum insert while Britt was editing the video. I did indeed use the bullet I made in the Extra Credit Video from a couple weeks ago.
@@punishedprops Your grip IS made out of real wood. I had to go back to the build video to verify. You're so good at faking it I thought it might be painted resin. You tricked me. :D
As someone who has faked wood quite a bit, there is nothing that feels like the real thing. Even heavily varnished.
to help with drilling when you said it was sketchy, just run the chuck slower for that drill. you can get apps on your phone which helps find the correct spindle speed!
Thanks for the tip!
@@punishedprops it will come naturally with experience by the noise its making and you can tell. one more thing. make sure its sharp and ground down correctly!!
I had to make a lot of decorative bullets without CNC. It's a lot easier and quicker if you cut different angles (rotate the lathe compound) instead of cutting steps. So you just need to file away a minimal amount of material.
Oh cool, thanks!
@@punishedprops This answer was quick :D I made a drawing 5s ago: abload.de/image.php?img=anglestnkox.png
I was very surprised to see you glued permantly the aluminium bullet in the brass cartridge ! I had thinking that you glued only a strong magnet to stay the bullet in the cartridge able to take out and replaced by the green light one !
One brass cartridge but two bullets ( or more if you want) . Do you think make the beautyfull magazin that we can see on the picture seen on your computer ?
Not sure yet!
To get a better finish on MDF, I get the larger bottles of cheap super glue. Put super glue all over the surface, let it dry and then you can get a really nice sanded finish on your MDF 👍
Great tip!
I think Adam would freak out if you gave him the card and plastic! At least +7 bill points!
With your parting tool, slide it back further into the holder, you only want just enough protruding to reach the centre of the cut. Reduce your speed, increase your feed rate. When knurling, A LOT SLOWER. Like super slow, you are deforming the metal, not cutting it, so oil and super slow speed. When cutting and drilling bronze and brass, we break the cutting edge to have zero cutting angle, so these types of parting tools you would have one end ground for parting steel like you have, and the other end you would have for brass. Hope that makes sense.
Thanks for the tips!
Fantastic build. They look so shiny. I couldn’t remember this scene from the movie, so cool that Hellboy’s equipment comes in custom packaging.
Question regarding your Blade Runner files... what size grub screws should I use, it only says the M number, but doesn’t include the length on the hardware breakdown?
Oh those are mostly decorative. They're only about 5mm long.
Thank you Bill. Much appreciated. I finally got me a 3D printer, and once it is printing well, the Blade Runner PKD will be my first print project.
if you make another you might want to try to hollow out the casing and add some sand or small plastic pellets to simulate a powder charge inside. would feel very cool handling it! esp if it was one that wasnt in a blister pack
Totally!
Just a suggestion if you make any more of these to hang up you could use nitrogen to displace the air in the packaging as you seal it to prevent the brass from oxidizing over time.
Oh neat!
that looks great have a great day
very detailed
Thanks so much!
There is one prop that I think you guys would have a blast trying to replicate. It's a bolter pistol/rifle from the Warhammer 40K series. The personally I think a human shock trooper lazgun would be easier (or more manageable)
Thanks for the suggestions!
I can't recall if you've ever done any metal casting, but that might be a cool way to knock out a few of these bullets in single go.
We have! We've done some pewter casting, which was a lot of fun. Unfortunately we're not equipped for anything that gets hotter than that. ua-cam.com/video/Z2B4MY6L-2U/v-deo.html
Would look cool to put some black nail polish in those etchings if they are deep enough. Let it dry and wipe the surface with acetone to remove the excess.
Totally!
I think you may be running your lathe a little fast while using your parting tool, also use cutting oil or way oil, same goes for your knurling tool. Also I know this isn't a precision part, but it is good practice to do your id geometry before your od so you don't risk collapsing and barreling your walls.
Thanks so much for the tips!
I don't know much about vacuum forming. But, could you hit it with a heat gun, while it's still pulling to smooth some out?
I *could* but I'd risk heating one spot more than the other which can end up causing more problems than it's worth. It's best to get it all in one pull
I'm wondering something here. Are the spiderwebs coming from the friction with the base material? If so, can you lube the base material with olive oil?
Potentially. More likely than not it's from the shape of the buck
remarkable for the next package you do cut out for plastic they mount the on to the carboard the lettering over the top lol
Oh, this is so cool! These turned out spectacular, and the blister-pack was a great addition.
Thanks so much!
Curious: why did you make a template for the vacuform, instead of using the bullet itself? Is it as simple as the template being flat on the back? Or some other reason?
I wanted to protect the bullet and also the shape of the plastic bubble packaging isn't perfectly fitted to the bullet, it's a bit bulkier. So the buck I made replicates that slightly larger shape rather than the bullet itself.
@@punishedprops Thanks for the reply. I was sure you had your reasons. 🙂
I havent found one yet, but do you have a video on how to extrapolate a pattern from a pannel in a manga/frame in an anime or any show? Working on a cosplay and i couldnt find patterns for sale and im struggling to figure out how to make one.
I don't have one specifically for manga/anime, but in this video I talk a bit about the process of taking something from screen to real life: ua-cam.com/video/bFdIE_7j6nk/v-deo.html
as a former machinist, seeing the cut-off tool jumping like that gave me a bit of a heart attack lol
Haha, you knew what would happen :D
Whith the parting tool you should not go just straight but give a little relief on the sides. Cut a little bit, pull the tool back, move sideways a bit, cut again, now a little further, pull back, move sideways to the previous position, cut a little further and repet until you cut it all. That way only 2 edges of the tool will be cutting instead of 3
Thanks for the tips!
That tool post might be part of the problem, it doesn't look like it holds the tool holder very stable like a wedge-type post would. I like your sandpaper holder, I have one of those magazine racks but never thought of using them like that.
Thanks! I built it a while back and it's been SO handy!
Great build, but I have to wonder - how long can that cardstock back support a heavy chunk of metal like that?
Should be just fine long term if all it's doing is hanging. If it was being handled I might have used something more dense.
Do you have a speed control on that lathe? Or does it only have OFF and TOO FAST? :)
HAH! I can control the speed
Bil, you could have made some threads to the head and body and make it like a secret stash thing with the bullet head that screws into place
Fun idea!
I need to buy a lathe, also, this video is dope. I actually just finished printing my first ever gun prop, the Apex Legends Wingman.
That's awesome! Thanks so much for watching :)
@wxw133 Thats a great looking gun tbh, I might do that one next
"monstrous horizontal band saw" lmaoooo that the smallest horizontal band saw I've ever seen
It's a beast compared to my other ones XD
@@punishedprops XD
Might consider your profile steps you measure for the bullet being done in increments of how much you want to take off with each pass of the tool. For example, measure your bullet profile every 0.5mm so you can make each cut to a new point. You're making the cut anyway, might as well be to different points for a smoother curve.
Thanks for the tip!
That ring on the bottom is the primer
You should try to make big baby revolver I'm not telling what you should make it out of but given how huge it was in the movie...its been a while but something light....
little advice, turn the speed down on the lathe when using a parting tool, lot more cutting force because more of the tool comes in contact. somewhere around 200-300 rpm
Thanks!
@@punishedprops no problem! Also, if possible retract the tool back into the tool holder as much as possible, only have it sticking out as much as you need, really helps with the rigidity of a setup. I've broken quite a few parting tools and have learned from experience
@punishedprops DUDE! Oil that hinge on that bandsaw! HAHA! JK
It is rather squeaky isn't it XD
How do i design a cool modern laser gun/rifle prop that doesn’t look cheesy
Research! Collect LOTS of references of designs and styles you like - that will help you develop your own unique concept
Watching this and my wife has already said no about 500 times because she knows I'm gonna want a lathe now 😂.
They're pretty fun!
@@punishedprops they definitely are. I have used a wood lathe quite a bit but never metal. It's really one of those don't really need it but still want it kinda things.
Nice man
Thanks very much!
I love your channel!!!!!!!
Thanks so much! I really appreciate you watching!
@@punishedprops actually i just got a 3d printer and bought your blade runner pistol files.
Just wanna say i love what you do here and that I’m making foam props only because of you.
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yeesh, oil that saw's hinge Bill :D
But then my ears won't bleed! :P
@@punishedprops LOL