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I can’t believe I seen this thumbnail for this video. I truly do feel like he’s wrong about the first descendent. It’s a really good game. And people need to remember the game is still just getting started give it so like middle of season, two and three and watch how much a pop off
why didn't you wait a couple of week until the next season dropped to try the game? Your already really late to the game no harm in waiting until the update.
I agree with most of what you said. But when you said the blueprints didn't drop from hardmode? That's just wrong. Basically, Amorphus materials in hardmode can be used to get every BP except Hailey- who drops from invasions. The materials in HM generally offer better drop chances for pretty much every BP or part than their NM counterpart. Just use the Access tab. If they aren't showing up, it's probably because you didn't unlock the correct boss yet. I've unlocked a couple characters- Regular Freyna I got in like four hours? Ultimate freyna took about four days (not litteraly days of playtime- just four days of regular grind.). I've met people who got U.Freyna in about 5 hours. Honestly, I don't have enough info to guess at the drop rates. I can actually cook up an Valby and an Enzo right now- got their parts grinding other things- but descendant slots are limited and getting more costs money so I'd rather just get the ultimate variants. Which leads me to the cash shop. It's a total rip off at every level. But I think you covered that well. The community is full of dopes, tbh. First everyone was complaining about Bunny- then U Freyna.... But the actual strongest character in the game is Luna. By far. A Buff Luna build with a crit team can down what is currently the strongest boss in the game in under twenty seconds- beating the next fastest non-Luna team by about five minutes. It's not like She's worse in instanced content either.
TFD is a perfect example on how appealing character designs can help your game punch above its weight. Without the fan service it wouldn't have survived the 1st month and now its probably around for a couple more years.
@@GeorgeNoiseless Have you seen what warframes actually look like? I don't think a sizeable chunk of people are playing the game because they saw Mag's ass or something.
I play both games: Warframe and The First Descendant. Warframe has 10+ years of advantage, of errors and learning, that in the end worked for many players - game has it's flaws, but is fun and succesful. TFD is inspired by many looter shooters ( WF, Destiny) - devs work hard and love the game, same as WF devs never gave up. It still is raw, but with potential for something different, that allures me as WF player, sth that I lack in WF yet as a game similiar in a sense. Now, I've reached Hard Mode gameplay and bosses, first Ultimate Descendants, 400% dungeons, Invasion missions, and I can't wait for Season 2. Game has potential, maybe is not something amazing now, but I've learned from Warframe you don't gave to start great, you just have to fight and be consistent in what you make. I wish both games the best.
It's crazy how people have this primal need to align with a tribe "WF rules! TFD sucks!" when one game has been out for 4 months and the other has been around for 10 years. Appreciate your take.
My issue is mainly with Nexon. The gameplay will likely improve over time, the story will get better, so on and so forth. But it's a Nexon game. The monetization _will not_ improve, and that is by far the worst part of the game.
The issue with the “but WF started out rough and had years of updates” is that WF released when looter shooters were in their infancy. DE had to figure a lot of the kinks themselves. So it’s understandable it took that time. TFD released when looter shooters are a well tread path. They should not need 10 years of updates to get this in a good state. They had plenty of others to look at to avoid a lot of problems. And potential? Please. This is just a korean knock off looking to cash in.
Bro they literally copied warframe but somehow dind't think to copy the improvements Warframe got over the years? This 10 year game argument is so fucking r*tarded I can't even.
I have no prob with hot chicks in commercials, bring it on, I say. Just sell me the product at one price, not try to gouge cash constantly out of me. Funny how all these `Freetoplay` game have no problem with hot girls everywhere but you can't get a one-pay standard AAA game with hot chicks everywhere.
@@MartinOReilly-mb4um Probably because games focus on the game not coomerbait? CP77 is the most sexualised non pornograhpic game on the market made by a western studio but it's tied to it's story and world. They are a thing, you're just looking for something to complain no? looking up a games rule34 is probably ironically actual research into how many people find game characters... "hot" freaks.
I have around 500h in TFD. I've enjoyed my time spent while playing, I do not regret ever playing the game. Would I recommend the game to others tho? Now that's a different story. Game still needs a lot of QoL and content.
I'm here with you. I just started last month, 120+ hours in and am having fun. I jumped into Destiny 2 really late in it's life and think that the systems in that are trash. It feels disjointed because the original parts of the game were sunset long ago so theirs no teaching of the grindy systems whereas TFD just rolls you through it during the campaign. I think a better comparison is Diablo 4. I think the campaign for both are passable but the grind afterwards is worthless in D4 but I can tailor my endgame in TFD.
I find TFD super fun and the most played game of the year for me. I played Warframe years ago and gave up. I tried it again later and again gave up again. I tried it again about a year ago and tried to like it but it just wouldn't click. I also played Destiny 2 and gave up. TFD just clicked from the first moment and hundreds of hours of of playtime, is still very interesting. Yes it's a new game and needs content... but the developers proved already that they listen to the players...
the first time I loaded into a big zone and saw the little floating tech things that load rando open world missions, I was like "you cannot be serious with this"
@@MightyManotaur22 I honestly love this design too. It's strange, everything people hate about the game I found revolutionary and a hopefull new standard...
First descendant has 100k more more peak players but warframe has 5x more concurrent players nowadays, it really was popular for its first month and then the boobies could just not keep people interested
When all people were using to promote the games were the female outfits i knew this game was washed. I tried it anyway and by god was it boring. Didnt even last 30 minutes.
Now if only all those players First Descendant lost would hop onto Warframe! Maybe once 1999 comes around and we have human waifu skins they'll be more inclined.
"Alternative to Warframe"?? I think you're mistaken, maybe "alternative to Destiny 2". I don't think there's as many players tired or "upset" with Warframe as there are with Destiny2
I've dumped thousands of hours into both and yeah, Warframe never really let me down at any point. Wanting for more content sure, But never actually upset with the state of it. But with destiny it was a roller coaster with far too many ups and downs, always feeling like the lowest of lows and the highs only got less and less high until it eventually all just stagnated. I'm glad I left like 2 weeks after final shape and haven't gone back
idk if youre being intentionally stupid or not but he i’ll explain it anyway. he says this game is an “alternative to warframe” because it has a lot more in common with warframe than destiny 2. if he said this was an alternative to destiny 2 it would be wrong because it doesn’t have enough similarities with destiny 2 to be considered an alternative.
it's closer to warframe than destiny. outside of the space theme it was 2 very different games. one was first person the other 3rd person, the modding aspect is definitely like warframe
I thought I was crazy when I immediately bounced off at launch yet so many seemed to love it. I’m happy for them but this world, the characters, the design felt so empty. None of the style that’s conveyed in warframe, none of the lore and mystery of early Destiny or even the core fun that anthem had. It’s a jack of all trades and mastery of none of them and therefore felt shallow. Glad people still enjoy it tho and hopefully it can last for those that do
@@AlphaAceEXI mean people like a good grind. The success of the Korean MMO is pretty much proof of that. The game doesn’t even have to be that good to qualify: it just needs to be good enough to justify the massive time sink required, and have an aesthetic that panders to its base (anime tiddies)
Most of this is fair, but I haven't spent anything other than buying the passes and I have all the base descendants and four ultimates. The drop rates are fine if you don't constantly go for one drop - because guess what it's possible to roll a die over and over again without getting a six. The game only gets really interesting when you have fully kitted out characters - mod clear Freyna or Bunny, boss killers like Lepic and Hailey. The game is still in the early stages but the way the devs communicate and respond with changes is super nice too. Looking forward to the new stuff in season 2 in a few weeks.
Ah yes it only gets good after playing like a couple hundred hours...... Why would anyone do that??? There are plenty of games that are just......good. Without having to develop Stockholm syndrome. Also the drop rates cannot be good, if they are 1. BS and 2. So BS as to be almost statistically impossible, especially when it's been shown to have those scenarios appear far more than what would be the case on average.
Yeah when even Korean players who just accept total bullshit in most other games are warning you to stay away from Nexon games you should run away screaming.
I am guessing you haven't played Warframe or any other pay-2-skip online game. You shouldn't expect fairness from any game that moves the goalposts depending upon how much you're willing to pay.
It's not that I don't like a game marketing with sexy characters. It's that the sexy characters make me wonder why they're not marketing it as a good game.
Because it's a Nexon game. It was pushed out to be a shit cashgrabby warframe rip-off with a vindictus reskin and now that the game is actually doing numbers the devs are scrambling hard to come up with actually worthwhile content to be added in season 2
@@deathgorilla782 Then you clearly never played Warframe. Warframe sucked for its first like, two years. And even after it became a good game, it still wasn't great. It took around FOUR years begin having a coherent narrative. It took almost that much time to make Melee a functional system. It was routinely billed as "the space ninja game" but barely had any space ninja due to the fact the original mobility system was a dogshit meme. I remember playing it for about two hours the week it first dropped. Uninstalled it after I got stuck in a mission that got decided it would be a funny prank to not generate a pathway to the exit. Looked it up, turned out this was a rather continual occurrence. Decided this wasn't worth my time and moved on. Came back a few years later and ended up playing the game for almost a decade and putting in 2.5k hours. Quit before Deimos because I got tired of their new "content island" philosophy to game design. A game can start rough and become something phenomenal with time. The problem is just that we're so swamped for choice these days that its hard to have any desire to burn time on a "mid" experience. Wheras when say, back when Warframe was exceedingly undercooked, there weren't that many F2P action PVE games, so even though it sucked, people stuck with it off the hope of potential. Nowadays, if the same kind of game sucks, people will just say "Just go play Warframe instead", making it harder for fresh blood to have a chance. Warframe's not unique in that regard, either. PoE sucked too.
I'm an OG Warframe Player, started playing day 1 when there was only limited map tile sets and a handful of frames. Every once and a while I pop back to check it out to, but just don't have the patients to figure out what has happened. I'm enjoying my time with The First Descendant and I would suggest, since it's free to play - just try it out and not listen to anyone's opinion on it. It has a lot more going on than vanilla Warframe did and if we are lucky, it will continue to get meaningful updates much like Warframe and make it a better game. The vast majority of Austin complaints about the game echo that of the community and the Dev's have begun to address most of them. Season two sounds like it will be addressing some of the more core issues, including better on boarding of new players and loot drop guarantee's. That all being said, it doesn't appear Austin had the stamina to get to end game. I'm not even sure he finished getting through hard mode, unlocked any of the unique weapons, an ultimate descendant or transcendent mods. This is a very surface level review and not a fair one, especially throwing in some conspiracy theory on drop rates. That being said, if you didn't like the campaign that's is 100% fair (it's pretty generic), however I don't believe it's fair to review the full game on just that aspect; Did Austin even complete Bunny's story, what hard mode Colossi did he get to, was he able to run any of the 400% dungeons? Again, since it is free to play and you can achieve everything without buying a single package, I would suggest trying it out - you may have a difference experience than poor Austin did :)
yeah i did feel like the review is leaning towards the unfair side a bit, the game is FTP and its designed to be played on the long run, and the grind is pretty fun and not as bad is he painted out to be. its also a bit unfair to not talk about the devs communication, in games like this players care alot about devs communication and knowing if thier investment is worth it, and the devs communicate pretty regularly and listen alot to players feedback. i wish he did some research in that regard anyway its a free to play game, if they keep supporting it eventually word of mouth is gonna work just like warframe
I'm sure this dude just played through half of the normal mod then gone to complain! I will never listen to those UA-camrs! If I liked the game, I'll keep playing! If didn't like the game, just go play something else!
Pretty much this. The game has problems but the devs acknowledged literally every single problem already and made it clear that they're working towards most of them. It's a free game with insanely good devs. And I loved Warframe (don't play it now) but everyone suddenly started acting like it was some perfect masterpiece after TFD showed up. It really isn't. *Warframe has a ridiculous amount of problems itself. Some that TFD has too. The game is actually really good. People are just complaining about TFD for the sake of complaining. That's all the internet is these days.
This is what we wanted. Someone who's played warframe from Day-1 can give us a better idea about how things might look like for a game during its infancy. Most of the warframe purists joined the game when the game had been out for a while with loads of contents to grind and improvements that the OG players did not have. I am enjoying TFD and loving every second of it. The devs are very responsive which makes me respect the whole thing even more
I enjoy this game. It’s simpler than Warframe and didn’t feel as overwhelming to me as a beginner tbh. Warframe has so much shit going on at all times and none of it is explained well. I still don’t understand what’s going on in that game. That being said, Warframe is much more fun to play.
I bounced off Warframe fairly quickly because I found the gameplay loop of looter-shooters to just not be engaging for me personally. With that said, while I did play it, going outside the game to find tutorials was mandatory. YT tutorials quickly fill in the gaps that the game doesn't explain, and one can be off to the races.
Played both games. Warframe is definitely simpler than first descendant. In terms of resources to grind for, blueprints to acquire, relics for opening prime frames, levelling etc. both games have a problem with relaying info to players but Warframe has it better organized and with fewer unnecessary layers to big you down. Warframe also allows you to minimize grinding via trading with their premium currency so let's say you have a bunch of blueprints you don't want but really want a prime frame you don't have, you can trade those blueprints for silver and use that silver in the marketplace to trade with someone that does have theme blueprints or the relics to acquire that specific item. TFD completely lacks this while also taking several times longer to acquire those blueprints/materials to craft said item.
@@spakentruthi disagree except for the part about trading and the grind. You can only trade unnecessary parts for tokens in tfd, hopefully trading with players becomes a feature eventually. In general I find tfd much easier to navigate (although not perfect) because warframe’s menus are very weird and disjointed. For example, weapons and warframes are in the codex but in order to see what resources are required to build you have to go to…equipment? I was very confused by this initially because that’s where I would think to go for things I own and as a new player I owned nothing but the starting gear. On top of that, they won’t tell you where exactly to find resources, only the planet. Tfd on the other hand will let you know exactly where to find what based on region and even the specific mission. This makes the grind in tfd more manageable in a way, but yes the droprates are pretty asinine. A pity system is being implemented in the next season though so that will likely help a bit.
This is why I got into tfd, it was just easier. When I first played Warframe, I didn't understand anything. Plus the fact that making one thing like a weapon would take days, whereas I'm tfd you can have one researched within 24 hours. There was too much going on in Warframe, there was events and a bunch of planets. Tfd imo is just more simple and beginner friendly, with the built in access info and the fact that most things that you research take less that 24 hours to finish. So you can just research something before you go to bed and have it done whenever you get back on.
I honestly think at some point having some of the settings too high becomes a problem. I don't get some of the things he is talking about after I lowered some of the settings.
Played 300+ hours of this game but couldn’t agree more with everything you’ve said. I think the campaign is a slog but the build crafting at the endgame is a lot of fun and satisfying when you get the build you’ve been working towards because you notice how much more powerful you are in game.
Kinda funny how I feel like the rewiew is being overly harsh over most aspects of the game, but also cant say is unfair. I played the beta, and was pretty much hooked by boss fights and how most of descendants plays in the game. Turns out, when game fully released, they opted for the most predatory way possible of monetization. Making acquire anything such a chore, obviously designed to force people to spend (a large amount of) money for a single item/character So, honestly, f**k Nexon and their s****y game
As a Warframe fan, I hated this game. It's basically Warframe, if abilities felt weaker, color palettes were one time use, DE never backed down from questionable monetization choices they made in the past, never learned how to have a unique art direction, charged money to do Nightwave challenges, made cosmetics solely for the horny players, and decided to randomly lie to me about how rare something was (for some reason). Also, i'm a bit late to this so I'll go a little easy on the comment you made about Warframe towards the end, but I don't think people want an alternative to Warframe at all. The game is in it's best state currently, with 1999 part 2 coming after the new year, so arguably it's *still* on the up and up. I think the thing is people want a live service like Warframe ON TOP of Warframe, because it's so easy to engage with. So they just want Warframe, maybe with a better onboarding process.
I have been playing Warframe for over ten years so The First Descendant was a nice alternative for awhile. I agree with nearly everything in this review but I am still enjoying it. My problem is this game needs more content in the end game and more engaging daily content. Warframe has Sorties, Steel Path Incursions, Deep Archemedia, Netrcells, Arbitrations, Sanctuary Onslaught and Duviri/The Circuit. That is not including Railjack, Fishing, Archwing and other activities. But that is a result of over a decade of development. So I am willing to wait for TFD to beef up. It's a nice side game I can put 10 minutes into then do something else. The developers have been making many changes to the game based on player feedback such as coloring base skins and allowing you to purchase bundled items separately. I was skeptical of Nexon as well but the devs do DAILY QnA after they get off work on Discord. Player requested changes have made it into the game already. But I totally understand why it's not clicking for many. But I love Warframe and the systems in TFD are so familiar it's comfortable. As for the drop chances, yes, they feel like bull crap. I unlocked everything free to play but some drops were painful to get. There is a Vendor that sells drops now for the currency you get from doing hard infiltrations and that will help newer players. But he wasn't there when I grinded everything and it was rough. Not the worst grind; ACTUAL Korean MMOs are MUCH worse.
Basically, it's Warframe without good writing, compelling characters, ship to ship combat, a good story, fair monetization, good UI, unique art, gameplay variety, player trading, dojo building, good environments, good customization... all while being more grindy. Not saying it's a bad game but it's just a major downgrade.
An empty generic world, very corridor designed where you walk from destiny patrol to destiny patrol till you reach a dungeon is a game design I can sort of overlook. The major turn off are the skins and overly sexualization. Now don't get me wrong, I am a girl and I love being a girl. I often wear provocative clothing as it makes me feel good about myself. I am far from a woke person as I would celebrate our bodies by framing it in the best way possible instead of hiding it. But in TFD you have only two options: a skin tight sniny bathing suit/bikini or panda onsie for every single female skin, or Bulky though armor and panda onsie for the male characters. Droning out every form of identity. And as someone who studies marketing I get it, sex sells. But are people this desperate? A good designer should understand that their are so many beter ways to make "sexy"skins then just skin thight thong bikini's. As someone who often dress provocative I know that the right clothing that shows but doesn't tell is so much more effective then just running around in your undies =.=! Combine the skins with the super generic world design and gameplay shows exactly the purpose of this game. It's not about the story, the gameplay but to sell you skins.
You're sure you're checking all the tabs in the shop? Cause in the "Premium Skin" category currently there's a variety of costumes and not a single skimpy one.
I got my money's worth out of this game, that is to say, I spent nothing. Played the heck of this for like a month and half but after that I dropped it and didn't look back. It is fine for what it is, the scummy store stuff can mostly be ignored and you can just play it. I unlocked most of the characters and oodles of weapons. As a free to play game it is fine for a month or so, after that I wouldn't spend money or keep playing it though. Personally I would say it was a 7/10 depending on your level of grind tolerance that could go up or down a notch. Decent time-filler if you are between games.
Played both games (Warframe and TFD). I couldn't fathom how long it took in Warframe to actually get to the interesting shit. TFD, even if it is more or less a Warframe clone, has proven far more entertaining in the gameplay department for me. Also yes, the character designs. Though both games have good designs (I'm a character artist, I prefer whatever Korea's doing).
i heard it took a few or so years for Warframe to get Decent before it started to keep on getting better and such, The Fisrt Descendant is only like, 6 months old and id hope it last long enough for me to try it and like it and get to end game for a while. But for now, I'm debating on playing.
Warframe's early game is abyssmal. WF fans gloss over it but it is insanely slow. TFD gets the player up and running much faster imo. Much more clearly defined paths.
"Pay for convenience" microtransactions are building a maze where a corridor should go in order to sell tickets to use the side tunnel that goes straight to the exit.
I am 100% glad you reviewed this late. I now realize that I will never watch a review for a game or take anything a reviewer says seriously until I play the game myself. Which is sort of the point of a review. I agreed with some things you have said. The game is certainly not perfect. But I see a lot of potential, and the devs are tirelessly taking in feedback to improve the game. I am playing the game an absolute ton. Again, thank you. Will never watch another review again until I give a game a shot myself. First time I've ever thumbs down a skill up video.
I can tell that he never really gave the game a fair chance nor did he do the adequate research. If he did he would know that the devs are in the process of addressing many of the issues the players have - unlike Bungie - which ignored its players in spite of how vocal we were.
I tried The First Descendant with 2 friends and I am thankful for one thing: after playing it for 2 hours; I downloaded Warframe after a year and half away from it. This game reignited my love for Warframe.
Ever since the community manager took over as the game director I’ve never seen the game in a better state with its player base, there’s no longer any questionable reworks, we don’t hear the Devs arguing with the player base over balance changes and overall it feels like both the player base and the Dev team are on the same page. Don’t get me wrong Steve was fantastic as a director, amazingly ambitious and always trying to push what was possible but at times it felt like his vision for the game didn’t align completely with the game he actually made.
Warfrake did something similar to the color thing until someone spent $20k on a random color generator in one night. They refunded their money and completely changed their business model and now they're the most beloved game devs in the industry.
well, I agree with some things, but I must admit that I unlocked all characters and weapons to the maximum level without using cash (about 500 hours). For me, the biggest advantage of this game is that the developers really listen to the players and constantly improve it. I don't remember the last time I had so much fun. I realize that this is not for everyone and I'm surprised how absorbed I was :) I can't wait for the next season :)
If a studio made a F2P game where the number of ways they push monetization is as varied as the gameplay customization, you better hope they listen to players. The bigger challenge comes from it being "live-service", and retaining players for a long enough period to recoup costs and make profit. How much longer will they continue these QoL improvements and add-ons? Will each update be impactful enough to keep the remaining player base engaged? How often will the events they have be meaningful, and how many will just be a cop out that just pushes more monetized "limited time", FOMO content? Warframe may have started in a rougher state, QoL-wise, but they maintained clarity and communication with the community this whole time. Let's hope TFD can live up to those expectations.
@@LastRookie no game does, hell not warframe, not destiny, players are fickle and will move on, but will they come back? I left warframe came back and left a gain, same with destiny 2. Warframe broke a lot of things in its game and honestly when i was i last time it was a different game than what i played and a lot of the things i spent time, energy and money on were useless now. At some point i may try again, but TFD has given a better looking game, small stories in between Reyna and bunny, and a bunch of varied characters to start with. Most people complaining haven't spent a lot of time on the game or are complaining about skins not the actual game or gameplay.
@@BrianJackson-d1o 'how many people have come and gone from warframe' Brah, don't put salt on my wounds, DE literally banned my entire country from playing the game, I had 6000 hrs on that game, and don't get me started with the updates, 80% of the time new updates were unplayable.
People making the argument that first descendant cant be compared to Warframe given the games' timelines but people are quick to forget that Warframe started with practically nothing. Nexon is a multi billion dollar corporation with multiple years in the industry, watching the industry, and is a massive company, and the game went through numerous alphas (which I played two of). There were easy to fix things in the alphas which players begged them to improve but, the game released with the same tepid and clunky mechanics. And also became wholly monetized, like with the colors system -- obviously alpha rewards are scaled differently, but there was a clear vision where shaders would be earnable and infinitely usable on any character and skin, even if you havent bought one. Like, clearly this game is just a cash grab and they don't actually care about the player experience when the same seemingly random enemy scaling is present, the same poor boss designs and watery abilities. I wouldve loved to like the game but theres just something so... hollow, about it. It doesn't respect you, as a player.
as a first descendant main playing since beta, i assure you this review is 100% accurate. it just so happens im a runescape veteran, so doing the same thing over and over is kind of my cup of tea. the beautiful characters are easy on the eyes, and the gameplay at endgame is satisfying as hell (ever killed 20+ enemies every few seconds?) great game for a certain taste, perfectly fair review.
i tried out this game because people kept comparing it to warframe, but it feels like all the bad aspects of WF were dialed up to 11 while the good parts were mostly discarded, it felt boring more than anything else
If they had just ripped 80% of the ideas from Warframe and had a player market this game would’ve done well Truly snatching defeat from the jaws of victory I gave it a try and uninstalled after a few hours
Completely lost me with the bullshit monetization. I refuse to pay $5 for a 1 time reskin. Even if they completely remove it in the future I wont be giving this game or company the time of day
You respond like this, but the game kinda depends on people spending money on it. The more bullshit monetization you put in it, the higher the chances or alienating even the people thar used to spend on your game becomes. @@28Elmar
How to fix The First Descendant for me. 1. Let me farm slots for Descendants. 2. Fix drop rates. Make guarantee drop after certain tries. 3. Every single skin in game and recolor, you can get for free.
I'm a 2k hours Warframe veteran and I got 300 on TFD already. Most of your observations ring true. Much like historical Warframe, this game can be jank incarnate. The environments are boring, the story is absolute trash, I muted the music long ago, the bosses are hella uninspired... but I found the same kind of enjoyable grind I did in Warframe. I've gotten every single weapon and descendant I wanted just from playing solo and I've only had to give a few bucks to increase my character slots, just like in Warframe. The game has a loooong way to go before I would even begin to recommend it to the general gamer population but devs ARE making constant improvements and I've already gotten plenty of hours of free enjoyment from it. I would say its worth testing for people that are completely familiar and enjoy the Warframe grind.
its little hilarious putting this review this late online..cause they are working on drop rates.. i got everything pretty easy in the game..cause how strong you depends on mods.. really funny..😂 i mean destiny has shittier cashcrap than this. sidenote: update is out, i got the new descendant almost complete in a few hours and will start research tomorrow..and i also have the dog almost ready
Day one beta Destiny and Division gamer and casual Warframe player. I don’t know skill up. TFD is my go to since launch. Story isn’t great. One could argue none of the looter genre really does that well. What it does have is a nice place between Destiny and Warframe. Warframe movement is a turn off for me but the build craft was amazing. Destiny build variety is non existent unless you like subtle shades of DPS only. TFD scratches both itches for me. I can build characters that never engage in DPS and are still hella useful and player power fantasy is absolutely through the roof with no nerfs in site (Freyna anyone?) The Destiny grind and throttles were the most insulted I’ve ever been as a player. In TFD, you can work at your own pace and the end result is god like. What more can I ask from a looter?
These Korean games that are just extremely mediocre combinations or shameless rip offs of mechanics from superior games but garbage-tier gooner character designs are getting old
Fair point and agree with you on most parts. I have put nearly 200 hours in the game, it is fun but not the top dog in the looter shooter genre, it still needs adjustment and new contents. Dev teams are actively communicating with players and take feedbacks to shape it in a better way and I'm very satisfied with the way it's going. It has a great potential and going in the right direction. They have planned some nice adjustments such as balancing some under-rated characters to make it more fun to play, add more free cosmetics, make costume that are not a unique costume able to share across every characters in your account, QoL in term of target grinding, etc. So, give them more time and I believe it will keep getting better and better And yeah, even though cash shop is not affecting your progression, it's quite expensive, I hope they would lower the skin/costume price because it's something most people would buy a lot.
it's fun for me. Just running around, shooting some bad guy, collecting blueprints, admiring ass, making new characters. it's simple and fun. Yeah sometimes the drop seems suspicious, bummer, and the shop price is crime to humanity, but in the end i got everything i need without spending money while having fun
been a long time since I sat through a whole skill up vid and oh yeah 100% agree as someone who played this game ever since it's 1st BETA and till to the point where I just uninstalled the game after it's season 1 sh** show. they did have a few things that they did better than WF, especially when it came to loadouts and forma on a single unit. but as a whole, big nope.
Its an okay game, I´ve logged about 250 hours in the last two months (barring destiny 2 stuff) and I think its a fine game. Not good, great, bad, or horrible. Just fine. And as such its already been deleted.
It's really disappointing that not only is it clear that Austin didn't even get far into the game (despite making valid points in regards to its earlier sections), but neither do the people who are shitting on it in the comments. Just an infinite feedback loop of people who don't know what they're talking about and patting themselves on the back over it. It's sad.
This is the part that Kills me. Its a FREE game that people Refuse to try but will go on endlessly about how bad it is. Then there are the people who spent a few hours with the game and bounced off. You mean the Tutorial??? Games like tfd and Warframe cannot possibly be understood or appreciated in the 1st few hours. and Austin didnt even unlock a character, arguably the best part of the game is playing a new build on a new character.
Warframe was the poster child of "it gets better after 100 hours" so hearing a comparison of the two games when you haven't played that long is kinda ironic. However... this IS a Nexon game, so I'm inclined to trust you and take a wait and see approach with this game rather than jump in any time soon.
Its Free and absolutely worth trying. Season 2 is about to launch so now would be a perfect time. I started playing at launch and like pretty much everyone else who started at launch have unlocked Everything in the game. Its grindy sure but its not "Cheating" you. There IS however (Anecdotally) something in the code that decides you arent getting that Specific piece you are looking for (RIGHT NOW). You can run a mission 50 times and it wont drop BUT if you go farm something else for a while and come back and try to get to get that Exact same piece the next day, it'll drop on 1st or 2nd try like Nothing. Happened over and over to me but a little patience goes a Long way. The different characters (That Austin didnt try) are so fun and unique. Kyle for example has a skill that lets him fly into the air with a jetpack and divebomb onto enemies with a superman punch to the ground that does massive Aoe damage. Its great. The game isnt perfect and its not for everyone but there is definitely something there to enjoy if you put in the effort
I remember playing this when it first came out and felt it was a decent mmo action time killer with pretty good gunplay, traversal and enemy variety. The story and lore was somehow both undercooked and overcomplicated. I hated the color cosmetics being locked behind paywalls and yeah the character part drop rates were garbage compared to warframe. Also nice shout out to Remnant 2. That game is underrated with the crazy amount of hidden but fairly easy to unlock items.
I totally thought I wouldn't like this game going in, since I really didn't like either Destiny or Warframe. But unlike those 2, I actually found this game fun to play. I don't know why, it just clicked for me.
I have 9000 hours in Destiny and haven't touched it since finishing Final Shape. I downloaded TFD and have been enjoying it. The devs are really open with the community about what they are working on and make changes people actually want.
You know what game used to be like that? Warframe, yeah, ironic, being a very good release until devs got too ambitious to actually remember to deliver a finished and well put together product. At this point, with many, MANY live service games going under the radar by singleplayer made by indies and double A with 80% less budget, i don't trust enough a live-service developer who can maintain a consistent behavior towards its fanbase to make an ideal game and doesn't get too greedy in the way, even less when the main selling point of its game are outstandingly hot girls with weapons and nothing else
@@CinobiteReacts Bungie devs actively hate their player base. They tell the gaming media that they're "afraid" of them and refuse to be "bullied" into making changes players want. Bring back Sparrow League Racing? No, because they don't want to. Allow for rerolling perks? If you can't craft the gun, tough. Oh, and BTW, let's not ignore their recent scandal with perk rolls, or how the game is currently a buggy mess (see the Halloween event this year?).
@@CoercedJab 1- You have only 10 days of this +400% mission i dont know if they stay after season change 2 - sadly YES we where bored to death and play it only becouse all ppl say that after campain you do one more mission and you unlock this +400% missions .... and dont get me wrong i dont care about XP simply they give 4X enemy on the same map and its AWSOME you finalny dont run all over empty maps but you kill hordes of enemy +250 in each room !!
I can see why people don't like the game but i actually like playing the game and watching the devs actually try to make the game better over time for the players
Me personally i enjoy it. As a casual player i got to a point now that i have unlocked and made all weapons and descendants Paying only maybe 10 euro i think for couple of Descendant slots. I did buy every season and some skins because i enjoy the game and i want to support the game but you can do it most for free. There is also a lot of changes happening start of next season that fix the issues you mentioned in the video. The amount of changes the Devs have made just by listening to the players in this 6 months was just amazing. I haven't seen something like this in any other game (at lest what i played).
I put two hours of multiple game sessions in the game. I really can’t play more than one mission, because it was spongy and extremely hollow. I really wanted to like it but I’m obviously not it’s target audience. My brother in law liked it.
Never disagreed so hard with a review before, everything said in this video is outdated and for the most part not even remotely true anymore. There's still room for improvement ofc but the game is great. Characters are very easy to grind for (less than 2-4 hrs) as well as weapons. This is definately one of those cases of don't listen to the game reviewer.
I'm having a great time with the game. Would I recommend it to others? I would. But I can see why it's not for everybody, and that's ok. What you'll get is a game that can be grindy, but still fun (especially the new 400% missions, and colossi fights), fairly stable no matter how much is going on on-screen, and supported by a dev team that genuinely cares to make this game even better over the coming years. They listen to feedback and make constant changes, even if players mess up in the first place (like when they introduced the new shop, and players went ahaed and sold ALL their blueprints, even though the button clearly said that all would be selected, the devs reverted it and gave the blueprints back). I think that the game can have a bright future once it has caught up to warframe in years.
I acknowledge that playing video games are a time wasting hobby. I only play single player games with a story. If I am going to waste time, it better be worth it and I am not going to do it with these generic shooters and CODs and similar fps. These looter games are basically for players with addicted tendencies.
He gave a gacha game ZZZ with terrible monetization good review. You can totally play First descendant without spending. Gameplay is more enjoyable than ZZZ's button mashing. I guess Nexon didn't paying enough for the review like Hoyo does.
As someone who has about 250 hours in the game the droprates are ok. People who say they did hours for a 20% and not getting it are either the 0.0001% extremely unlucky or just cant seem to understand the basic concept of time and think a couple min equates to hours.
I have to agree with this. I know my experience doesn't reflect everyone elses but it seems like the loudest voices complaining about drops are the same ones insisting on instant gratification in looter shooters among other trivial game designs.
Its a good fanservice game but the monetization, boring story and gameplay makes me stay away and just enjoy whatever good fanservice content available on youtube
TFD did one thing for me: rekindled my love for warframe. Was away from years, after a month in TFD, decided to come back. So, I guess, thank you, TFD.
I played this game in it's "public beta" and I knew after 5 hrs, that this is a worse version of Destiny 2, designed to keep you in a boring loop, to make you spend money in the shop.
200 hours in and I know that it's not a good game I just wanted to grind for the characters. It is barren of actually engaging content and has baffling design choices in gameplay, encounters, and endgame progression plus an incredibly flawed matchmaking system that exacerbates the hardest fights available. It is appealing on the surface level with polished Unreal 5 graphics and graphically impressive fanservice but aside from that there's nothing actually "fun" about this game. Everything is just a task to grind and the only positive I can have is that the interface is genuinely great and user friendly for the ease and convenience it provides. It kinda has to be since grinding is the only thing to do in this game and making it even somewhat difficult would turn away its most dedicated players.
I played a lot of TFD when it launched, and personally I really enjoyed my time with it. Eventually, I dropped off - but only after killing all of the available bosses (at the time) and only in favour of other games. If I had the time I'd still play it and I still have it installed on both PC & Xbox since the game features cross-progression. The devs have been amazing with quickly implementing player feedback (which apparently is the main reason they even bothered with jiggle physics - the community wouldn't shut up about it) and they've only made positive changes to the game from any of the updates that I've seen. The monetisation isn't great, but it's a F2P game and none of the purchases are necessary. You can unlock everything in-game through a bit of grinding and I didn't find it to be an intolerable one (though I know many do). The game definitely isn't for everyone, but I don't regret the many many hours I put into it, and still plan to return at some point in the future.
If you already played 500 hours and you go watch a video about a game review that comes months after the game launched, you gloating means you formed an opinion way before this review came out. How did you get here and commit such obnoxious behavior?
You never know how you will feel until you play. I love looter shooters but they can’t be free to play. The grind for me in these games is unacceptable. That’s why my favorite looter shooters have been Borderlands 3 and Outriders.
@@Granhier someone making a comment like the OP is a comment about a valid concern? No, OP is gloating that he liked a game that a reviewer didn't and or doesn't recommend. If op's word choice was different I wouldn't have said anything but it did trigger me to call out bad behavior
@@Omegacalgar It's a valid concern to feel that people who know nothing about the game are writing it off, yes. Especially when the review is demonstrably lacking.
I normally quite enjoy Skill up videos. but some of the points in this video just don't do the game's justice. I've unlocked every single character without spending anything and the drop rate is not as hard as some might say. people just don't do the grind effectively. The game actually probably had the best Devs compare to any other devs out there as they have shown facts that they listened to their community. Throughout the months that's been out, they have addressed everything we as a player complained about.
@@Russian_engineer_bmstu Do DE address almost every piece of feedback and implement practically all of it within a week or so , does the studio director sit in the game community discord answering peoples questions and asking what we want from the game? If the answer is no then DE is worse than Magnum.
The game just got way better after season 2 update. It's easier to grind ultimates now. And the addition of dog is just a massive quality of life improvement.
@KalePunk268 what are you even talking about? Nobody said you're a bot. Why so defensive? Lmao. Now that you said it. You're a waste of my time. Get lost. Bot 🤣🤣🤣
It could be better, I've been pushing them for the ability to crouch behind cover, and a slide to retain movement speed and compliment the grapple hook, but they aren't moving on that.
@@Alyrael I doubt they will do the slide given it is integral to Warframe and there is only so much you can imitate without starting to get into trouble.
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Well Austin likes Veilguard, so... i'll take his reviews with a spoon of salt.
I can’t believe I seen this thumbnail for this video. I truly do feel like he’s wrong about the first descendent. It’s a really good game. And people need to remember the game is still just getting started give it so like middle of season, two and three and watch how much a pop off
why didn't you wait a couple of week until the next season dropped to try the game? Your already really late to the game no harm in waiting until the update.
@@jasoncalder4563 I 100% percent agree
I agree with most of what you said. But when you said the blueprints didn't drop from hardmode?
That's just wrong.
Basically, Amorphus materials in hardmode can be used to get every BP except Hailey- who drops from invasions. The materials in HM generally offer better drop chances for pretty much every BP or part than their NM counterpart.
Just use the Access tab. If they aren't showing up, it's probably because you didn't unlock the correct boss yet.
I've unlocked a couple characters- Regular Freyna I got in like four hours? Ultimate freyna took about four days (not litteraly days of playtime- just four days of regular grind.). I've met people who got U.Freyna in about 5 hours. Honestly, I don't have enough info to guess at the drop rates. I can actually cook up an Valby and an Enzo right now- got their parts grinding other things- but descendant slots are limited and getting more costs money so I'd rather just get the ultimate variants.
Which leads me to the cash shop. It's a total rip off at every level. But I think you covered that well.
The community is full of dopes, tbh. First everyone was complaining about Bunny- then U Freyna.... But the actual strongest character in the game is Luna. By far. A Buff Luna build with a crit team can down what is currently the strongest boss in the game in under twenty seconds- beating the next fastest non-Luna team by about five minutes. It's not like She's worse in instanced content either.
The First Descendant is an S+ tier ad for Warframe
Absolutely. It made me return to warframe after a 4 year break 😂
Warframe is just as bad lmao
@@RezaQin that's cope. Warframe is infinitely better
@@RezaQincope detected
@@RezaQinCome on do your research instead of opening your mouth and exposing yourself for being ignorant and stupid.
TFD is a perfect example on how appealing character designs can help your game punch above its weight.
Without the fan service it wouldn't have survived the 1st month and now its probably around for a couple more years.
Doesn't Warframe already have _those_ designs, except in greater variety?
Wouldn't this just be settling for less in every way...
@GeorgeNoiseless
Where the fck has WarFrame hot korean waifus?
@@GeorgeNoiseless Have you seen what warframes actually look like? I don't think a sizeable chunk of people are playing the game because they saw Mag's ass or something.
@@GeorgeNoiseless Bro don't talk about something you haven't played lmao
You go in for the character designs, then you realize the classes are actually fun to play too.
I play both games: Warframe and The First Descendant. Warframe has 10+ years of advantage, of errors and learning, that in the end worked for many players - game has it's flaws, but is fun and succesful.
TFD is inspired by many looter shooters ( WF, Destiny) - devs work hard and love the game, same as WF devs never gave up. It still is raw, but with potential for something different, that allures me as WF player, sth that I lack in WF yet as a game similiar in a sense. Now, I've reached Hard Mode gameplay and bosses, first Ultimate Descendants, 400% dungeons, Invasion missions, and I can't wait for Season 2. Game has potential, maybe is not something amazing now, but I've learned from Warframe you don't gave to start great, you just have to fight and be consistent in what you make.
I wish both games the best.
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It's crazy how people have this primal need to align with a tribe "WF rules! TFD sucks!" when one game has been out for 4 months and the other has been around for 10 years. Appreciate your take.
My issue is mainly with Nexon. The gameplay will likely improve over time, the story will get better, so on and so forth. But it's a Nexon game. The monetization _will not_ improve, and that is by far the worst part of the game.
The issue with the “but WF started out rough and had years of updates” is that WF released when looter shooters were in their infancy. DE had to figure a lot of the kinks themselves. So it’s understandable it took that time.
TFD released when looter shooters are a well tread path. They should not need 10 years of updates to get this in a good state. They had plenty of others to look at to avoid a lot of problems.
And potential? Please. This is just a korean knock off looking to cash in.
Bro they literally copied warframe but somehow dind't think to copy the improvements Warframe got over the years? This 10 year game argument is so fucking r*tarded I can't even.
This game is like those 90's commercials where they put a hot chick doing whatever product they wanted to sell you. It just works
"Hey dudes, do you like hot women? Yeah? Well, hot women love a guy who drinks some cold beer, buy lots and lots of our beer today."
TDS deto
I have no prob with hot chicks in commercials, bring it on, I say. Just sell me the product at one price, not try to gouge cash constantly out of me. Funny how all these `Freetoplay` game have no problem with hot girls everywhere but you can't get a one-pay standard AAA game with hot chicks everywhere.
@@MartinOReilly-mb4um Probably because games focus on the game not coomerbait?
CP77 is the most sexualised non pornograhpic game on the market made by a western studio but it's tied to it's story and world. They are a thing, you're just looking for something to complain no?
looking up a games rule34 is probably ironically actual research into how many people find game characters... "hot"
freaks.
sounds like you are afraid of women 😂
I have around 500h in TFD.
I've enjoyed my time spent while playing, I do not regret ever playing the game.
Would I recommend the game to others tho? Now that's a different story. Game still needs a lot of QoL and content.
I'm here with you. I just started last month, 120+ hours in and am having fun. I jumped into Destiny 2 really late in it's life and think that the systems in that are trash. It feels disjointed because the original parts of the game were sunset long ago so theirs no teaching of the grindy systems whereas TFD just rolls you through it during the campaign. I think a better comparison is Diablo 4. I think the campaign for both are passable but the grind afterwards is worthless in D4 but I can tailor my endgame in TFD.
@@oGRYzkisex sells well huh?
Where do you get 500 hours damn
@@alexgrant2006by playing the game
@@ThundrCh1ckn nobody cares about sunset shit trash take
I find TFD super fun and the most played game of the year for me. I played Warframe years ago and gave up. I tried it again later and again gave up again. I tried it again about a year ago and tried to like it but it just wouldn't click. I also played Destiny 2 and gave up. TFD just clicked from the first moment and hundreds of hours of of playtime, is still very interesting. Yes it's a new game and needs content... but the developers proved already that they listen to the players...
holy shit, "Destiny patrols: the game" was exactly my argument as to why i couldn't stand to play this game
the first time I loaded into a big zone and saw the little floating tech things that load rando open world missions, I was like "you cannot be serious with this"
Meanwhile it's exactly the reason for why I love this game where I bounced off of Warfarm
It's ironically my favorite thing about it. Pick up, play 10 min, bounce.
@@MightyManotaur22 I honestly love this design too. It's strange, everything people hate about the game I found revolutionary and a hopefull new standard...
@@jeffcarrier9808”New standard” hell no.
First descendant has 100k more more peak players but warframe has 5x more concurrent players nowadays, it really was popular for its first month and then the boobies could just not keep people interested
The devs know warframe is a much better game so they had to add half naked women so the gooners would download their game lmao
The thing about horny gaems is that the horny needs to be a skin on top of a good solid game otherwise it wont stay around long
When all people were using to promote the games were the female outfits i knew this game was washed. I tried it anyway and by god was it boring. Didnt even last 30 minutes.
and put alien asscheek on nsfw tag is wilding 😂😂😂😂😂
Now if only all those players First Descendant lost would hop onto Warframe! Maybe once 1999 comes around and we have human waifu skins they'll be more inclined.
"Alternative to Warframe"?? I think you're mistaken, maybe "alternative to Destiny 2". I don't think there's as many players tired or "upset" with Warframe as there are with Destiny2
That’s funny cuz Warframe is objectively a worse version of Destiny
I've dumped thousands of hours into both and yeah, Warframe never really let me down at any point. Wanting for more content sure, But never actually upset with the state of it. But with destiny it was a roller coaster with far too many ups and downs, always feeling like the lowest of lows and the highs only got less and less high until it eventually all just stagnated. I'm glad I left like 2 weeks after final shape and haven't gone back
idk if youre being intentionally stupid or not but he i’ll explain it anyway. he says this game is an “alternative to warframe” because it has a lot more in common with warframe than destiny 2. if he said this was an alternative to destiny 2 it would be wrong because it doesn’t have enough similarities with destiny 2 to be considered an alternative.
I will never forgive destiny or bungie for sunsetting my S1 IB armor
it's closer to warframe than destiny. outside of the space theme it was 2 very different games. one was first person the other 3rd person, the modding aspect is definitely like warframe
Obviously I understand how insensitive “Austin fucking hates: The First Descendant” would be as a title…but think of the funny.
Wut
" "This game is fucking dogshit" said Austin calmly in a gentle tone"
accurate though, and hes not wrong
why is saying 'fucking' or hating something insensitive, again? That makes zero sense.
@@matthewcarroll2533 It could hurt somebody's feewings if you insult a fucking product made for coomers
I thought I was crazy when I immediately bounced off at launch yet so many seemed to love it. I’m happy for them but this world, the characters, the design felt so empty. None of the style that’s conveyed in warframe, none of the lore and mystery of early Destiny or even the core fun that anthem had. It’s a jack of all trades and mastery of none of them and therefore felt shallow. Glad people still enjoy it tho and hopefully it can last for those that do
I mean people still play maple, nexon knows their market ig
it’s objectively an inferior game to warframe
I bounced off exactly the same as you. Couldn't deal with it. Particularly the story and voice acting. Just, eughhh
@@AlphaAceEXI mean people like a good grind. The success of the Korean MMO is pretty much proof of that. The game doesn’t even have to be that good to qualify: it just needs to be good enough to justify the massive time sink required, and have an aesthetic that panders to its base (anime tiddies)
@@jolt187LOL
Most of this is fair, but I haven't spent anything other than buying the passes and I have all the base descendants and four ultimates. The drop rates are fine if you don't constantly go for one drop - because guess what it's possible to roll a die over and over again without getting a six. The game only gets really interesting when you have fully kitted out characters - mod clear Freyna or Bunny, boss killers like Lepic and Hailey. The game is still in the early stages but the way the devs communicate and respond with changes is super nice too. Looking forward to the new stuff in season 2 in a few weeks.
All of it is fair. Their micro transactions are predatory
You roll a dice 40 times what is the chance you never hit a 6?
The chance is 0.000680378%
@@phillipharrison886 and?
Ah yes it only gets good after playing like a couple hundred hours......
Why would anyone do that??? There are plenty of games that are just......good.
Without having to develop Stockholm syndrome. Also the drop rates cannot be good, if they are 1. BS and 2. So BS as to be almost statistically impossible, especially when it's been shown to have those scenarios appear far more than what would be the case on average.
@ and they have a document history of lying about drop rates
It's a Nexon game. They're always grindy because they're going sell you short-cuts.
There’s a reason we call Nexon Donxon, which means Money-Xon in Korean lol
Yeah when even Korean players who just accept total bullshit in most other games are warning you to stay away from Nexon games you should run away screaming.
That's most games with a grind
not grindy enough. everything is so easy to get
I am guessing you haven't played Warframe or any other pay-2-skip online game. You shouldn't expect fairness from any game that moves the goalposts depending upon how much you're willing to pay.
It's not that I don't like a game marketing with sexy characters. It's that the sexy characters make me wonder why they're not marketing it as a good game.
Because it's a Nexon game. It was pushed out to be a shit cashgrabby warframe rip-off with a vindictus reskin and now that the game is actually doing numbers the devs are scrambling hard to come up with actually worthwhile content to be added in season 2
It is a good game. Only been out like 5 months lol.
@seanguinn I feel like 5 months is enough time to fix a good game with a few flaws
@seanguinn, let's be honest TFD survived mainly because of the A$$et 😂, gameplay is ok but the story is mediocre.
@@deathgorilla782 Then you clearly never played Warframe. Warframe sucked for its first like, two years. And even after it became a good game, it still wasn't great. It took around FOUR years begin having a coherent narrative. It took almost that much time to make Melee a functional system. It was routinely billed as "the space ninja game" but barely had any space ninja due to the fact the original mobility system was a dogshit meme.
I remember playing it for about two hours the week it first dropped. Uninstalled it after I got stuck in a mission that got decided it would be a funny prank to not generate a pathway to the exit. Looked it up, turned out this was a rather continual occurrence. Decided this wasn't worth my time and moved on. Came back a few years later and ended up playing the game for almost a decade and putting in 2.5k hours. Quit before Deimos because I got tired of their new "content island" philosophy to game design.
A game can start rough and become something phenomenal with time. The problem is just that we're so swamped for choice these days that its hard to have any desire to burn time on a "mid" experience. Wheras when say, back when Warframe was exceedingly undercooked, there weren't that many F2P action PVE games, so even though it sucked, people stuck with it off the hope of potential. Nowadays, if the same kind of game sucks, people will just say "Just go play Warframe instead", making it harder for fresh blood to have a chance.
Warframe's not unique in that regard, either. PoE sucked too.
I'm an OG Warframe Player, started playing day 1 when there was only limited map tile sets and a handful of frames. Every once and a while I pop back to check it out to, but just don't have the patients to figure out what has happened. I'm enjoying my time with The First Descendant and I would suggest, since it's free to play - just try it out and not listen to anyone's opinion on it. It has a lot more going on than vanilla Warframe did and if we are lucky, it will continue to get meaningful updates much like Warframe and make it a better game.
The vast majority of Austin complaints about the game echo that of the community and the Dev's have begun to address most of them. Season two sounds like it will be addressing some of the more core issues, including better on boarding of new players and loot drop guarantee's. That all being said, it doesn't appear Austin had the stamina to get to end game. I'm not even sure he finished getting through hard mode, unlocked any of the unique weapons, an ultimate descendant or transcendent mods.
This is a very surface level review and not a fair one, especially throwing in some conspiracy theory on drop rates. That being said, if you didn't like the campaign that's is 100% fair (it's pretty generic), however I don't believe it's fair to review the full game on just that aspect; Did Austin even complete Bunny's story, what hard mode Colossi did he get to, was he able to run any of the 400% dungeons? Again, since it is free to play and you can achieve everything without buying a single package, I would suggest trying it out - you may have a difference experience than poor Austin did :)
yeah i did feel like the review is leaning towards the unfair side a bit, the game is FTP and its designed to be played on the long run, and the grind is pretty fun and not as bad is he painted out to be.
its also a bit unfair to not talk about the devs communication, in games like this players care alot about devs communication and knowing if thier investment is worth it, and the devs communicate pretty regularly and listen alot to players feedback. i wish he did some research in that regard
anyway its a free to play game, if they keep supporting it eventually word of mouth is gonna work just like warframe
I'm sure this dude just played through half of the normal mod then gone to complain!
I will never listen to those UA-camrs! If I liked the game, I'll keep playing! If didn't like the game, just go play something else!
Pretty much this. The game has problems but the devs acknowledged literally every single problem already and made it clear that they're working towards most of them. It's a free game with insanely good devs. And I loved Warframe (don't play it now) but everyone suddenly started acting like it was some perfect masterpiece after TFD showed up. It really isn't. *Warframe has a ridiculous amount of problems itself. Some that TFD has too. The game is actually really good. People are just complaining about TFD for the sake of complaining. That's all the internet is these days.
Copium especially since they stole so much from Warframe and still didnt get it right.
RIP
This is what we wanted. Someone who's played warframe from Day-1 can give us a better idea about how things might look like for a game during its infancy.
Most of the warframe purists joined the game when the game had been out for a while with loads of contents to grind and improvements that the OG players did not have.
I am enjoying TFD and loving every second of it. The devs are very responsive which makes me respect the whole thing even more
I enjoy this game. It’s simpler than Warframe and didn’t feel as overwhelming to me as a beginner tbh. Warframe has so much shit going on at all times and none of it is explained well. I still don’t understand what’s going on in that game. That being said, Warframe is much more fun to play.
I bounced off Warframe fairly quickly because I found the gameplay loop of looter-shooters to just not be engaging for me personally. With that said, while I did play it, going outside the game to find tutorials was mandatory. YT tutorials quickly fill in the gaps that the game doesn't explain, and one can be off to the races.
Played both games. Warframe is definitely simpler than first descendant. In terms of resources to grind for, blueprints to acquire, relics for opening prime frames, levelling etc. both games have a problem with relaying info to players but Warframe has it better organized and with fewer unnecessary layers to big you down. Warframe also allows you to minimize grinding via trading with their premium currency so let's say you have a bunch of blueprints you don't want but really want a prime frame you don't have, you can trade those blueprints for silver and use that silver in the marketplace to trade with someone that does have theme blueprints or the relics to acquire that specific item. TFD completely lacks this while also taking several times longer to acquire those blueprints/materials to craft said item.
@@spakentruthi disagree except for the part about trading and the grind. You can only trade unnecessary parts for tokens in tfd, hopefully trading with players becomes a feature eventually. In general I find tfd much easier to navigate (although not perfect) because warframe’s menus are very weird and disjointed. For example, weapons and warframes are in the codex but in order to see what resources are required to build you have to go to…equipment? I was very confused by this initially because that’s where I would think to go for things I own and as a new player I owned nothing but the starting gear. On top of that, they won’t tell you where exactly to find resources, only the planet. Tfd on the other hand will let you know exactly where to find what based on region and even the specific mission. This makes the grind in tfd more manageable in a way, but yes the droprates are pretty asinine. A pity system is being implemented in the next season though so that will likely help a bit.
This is why I got into tfd, it was just easier. When I first played Warframe, I didn't understand anything. Plus the fact that making one thing like a weapon would take days, whereas I'm tfd you can have one researched within 24 hours. There was too much going on in Warframe, there was events and a bunch of planets. Tfd imo is just more simple and beginner friendly, with the built in access info and the fact that most things that you research take less that 24 hours to finish. So you can just research something before you go to bed and have it done whenever you get back on.
TFD is no better than at explaining mechanics either. I learned everything from UA-cam. The game itself is awful at explaining things
The shimmering effect at 4:15 is because of Lumen, Ue5's "meh" gi and reflection system, and not because of eye adaptation aka auto exposure.
I honestly think at some point having some of the settings too high becomes a problem. I don't get some of the things he is talking about after I lowered some of the settings.
Are they using software lumen and not hardware lumen??
Its always so jarring to listen to an Austin review and then BAM! Skill up jumps out of the bushes to do a pre-recorded ad read.
Played 300+ hours of this game but couldn’t agree more with everything you’ve said. I think the campaign is a slog but the build crafting at the endgame is a lot of fun and satisfying when you get the build you’ve been working towards because you notice how much more powerful you are in game.
I like how much the bad guy looks like SkillUp.
When does the Space Marine 2 jiggle physics patch drop?
Kinda funny how I feel like the rewiew is being overly harsh over most aspects of the game, but also cant say is unfair. I played the beta, and was pretty much hooked by boss fights and how most of descendants plays in the game. Turns out, when game fully released, they opted for the most predatory way possible of monetization. Making acquire anything such a chore, obviously designed to force people to spend (a large amount of) money for a single item/character
So, honestly, f**k Nexon and their s****y game
As a Warframe fan, I hated this game. It's basically Warframe, if abilities felt weaker, color palettes were one time use, DE never backed down from questionable monetization choices they made in the past, never learned how to have a unique art direction, charged money to do Nightwave challenges, made cosmetics solely for the horny players, and decided to randomly lie to me about how rare something was (for some reason).
Also, i'm a bit late to this so I'll go a little easy on the comment you made about Warframe towards the end, but I don't think people want an alternative to Warframe at all. The game is in it's best state currently, with 1999 part 2 coming after the new year, so arguably it's *still* on the up and up. I think the thing is people want a live service like Warframe ON TOP of Warframe, because it's so easy to engage with. So they just want Warframe, maybe with a better onboarding process.
I'm desperately trying to make a joke about Skillup being a guest star on Austin's channel but its 4:30am rn and I've got nothing
I can’t wait for this channel to be like fantano’s.
Hahahahahaha
I have been playing Warframe for over ten years so The First Descendant was a nice alternative for awhile. I agree with nearly everything in this review but I am still enjoying it. My problem is this game needs more content in the end game and more engaging daily content. Warframe has Sorties, Steel Path Incursions, Deep Archemedia, Netrcells, Arbitrations, Sanctuary Onslaught and Duviri/The Circuit. That is not including Railjack, Fishing, Archwing and other activities. But that is a result of over a decade of development. So I am willing to wait for TFD to beef up. It's a nice side game I can put 10 minutes into then do something else. The developers have been making many changes to the game based on player feedback such as coloring base skins and allowing you to purchase bundled items separately. I was skeptical of Nexon as well but the devs do DAILY QnA after they get off work on Discord. Player requested changes have made it into the game already. But I totally understand why it's not clicking for many. But I love Warframe and the systems in TFD are so familiar it's comfortable.
As for the drop chances, yes, they feel like bull crap. I unlocked everything free to play but some drops were painful to get. There is a Vendor that sells drops now for the currency you get from doing hard infiltrations and that will help newer players. But he wasn't there when I grinded everything and it was rough. Not the worst grind; ACTUAL Korean MMOs are MUCH worse.
Basically, it's Warframe without good writing, compelling characters, ship to ship combat, a good story, fair monetization, good UI, unique art, gameplay variety, player trading, dojo building, good environments, good customization... all while being more grindy.
Not saying it's a bad game but it's just a major downgrade.
Don't forget the occasional banger music track that Warframe offers. I *still* listen to 'We All Lift Together' and 'Sleeping in the Cold Below.'
So basically, it's like when warframe just launched interesting
@@meganclare7 Except it's over a decade late to the party. Concord made the same mistake, just without the gooning factor.
Warframe has also been around for like a decade at this point
Good UI? Warframe? I may think warframe is better than tfd in a lot of metrics but c'mon now. 😂
An empty generic world, very corridor designed where you walk from destiny patrol to destiny patrol till you reach a dungeon is a game design I can sort of overlook. The major turn off are the skins and overly sexualization.
Now don't get me wrong, I am a girl and I love being a girl. I often wear provocative clothing as it makes me feel good about myself. I am far from a woke person as I would celebrate our bodies by framing it in the best way possible instead of hiding it. But in TFD you have only two options: a skin tight sniny bathing suit/bikini or panda onsie for every single female skin, or Bulky though armor and panda onsie for the male characters. Droning out every form of identity. And as someone who studies marketing I get it, sex sells. But are people this desperate? A good designer should understand that their are so many beter ways to make "sexy"skins then just skin thight thong bikini's. As someone who often dress provocative I know that the right clothing that shows but doesn't tell is so much more effective then just running around in your undies =.=!
Combine the skins with the super generic world design and gameplay shows exactly the purpose of this game. It's not about the story, the gameplay but to sell you skins.
You're sure you're checking all the tabs in the shop? Cause in the "Premium Skin" category currently there's a variety of costumes and not a single skimpy one.
I got my money's worth out of this game, that is to say, I spent nothing. Played the heck of this for like a month and half but after that I dropped it and didn't look back. It is fine for what it is, the scummy store stuff can mostly be ignored and you can just play it. I unlocked most of the characters and oodles of weapons. As a free to play game it is fine for a month or so, after that I wouldn't spend money or keep playing it though. Personally I would say it was a 7/10 depending on your level of grind tolerance that could go up or down a notch. Decent time-filler if you are between games.
Korean game. The only red flag you need to never touch it.
Played both games (Warframe and TFD). I couldn't fathom how long it took in Warframe to actually get to the interesting shit. TFD, even if it is more or less a Warframe clone, has proven far more entertaining in the gameplay department for me.
Also yes, the character designs. Though both games have good designs (I'm a character artist, I prefer whatever Korea's doing).
i heard it took a few or so years for Warframe to get Decent before it started to keep on getting better and such, The Fisrt Descendant is only like, 6 months old and id hope it last long enough for me to try it and like it and get to end game for a while. But for now, I'm debating on playing.
Warframe's early game is abyssmal. WF fans gloss over it but it is insanely slow. TFD gets the player up and running much faster imo. Much more clearly defined paths.
_TDF is a breath of fresh air..._
_And way fun to play & grind_
_...Than Raid Shadow Legends !_
This is one of those youtube npc comments lol
@KalePunk268 You might be one too I can't lie.
xD
"Pay for convenience" microtransactions are building a maze where a corridor should go in order to sell tickets to use the side tunnel that goes straight to the exit.
I am 100% glad you reviewed this late. I now realize that I will never watch a review for a game or take anything a reviewer says seriously until I play the game myself. Which is sort of the point of a review.
I agreed with some things you have said. The game is certainly not perfect.
But I see a lot of potential, and the devs are tirelessly taking in feedback to improve the game.
I am playing the game an absolute ton.
Again, thank you. Will never watch another review again until I give a game a shot myself.
First time I've ever thumbs down a skill up video.
I can tell that he never really gave the game a fair chance nor did he do the adequate research. If he did he would know that the devs are in the process of addressing many of the issues the players have - unlike Bungie - which ignored its players in spite of how vocal we were.
I tried The First Descendant with 2 friends and I am thankful for one thing: after playing it for 2 hours; I downloaded Warframe after a year and half away from it. This game reignited my love for Warframe.
Ever since the community manager took over as the game director I’ve never seen the game in a better state with its player base, there’s no longer any questionable reworks, we don’t hear the Devs arguing with the player base over balance changes and overall it feels like both the player base and the Dev team are on the same page.
Don’t get me wrong Steve was fantastic as a director, amazingly ambitious and always trying to push what was possible but at times it felt like his vision for the game didn’t align completely with the game he actually made.
@@Unoriginal1deas they're both easily my fav people in the industry.
Warfrake did something similar to the color thing until someone spent $20k on a random color generator in one night. They refunded their money and completely changed their business model and now they're the most beloved game devs in the industry.
well, I agree with some things, but I must admit that I unlocked all characters and weapons to the maximum level without using cash (about 500 hours). For me, the biggest advantage of this game is that the developers really listen to the players and constantly improve it. I don't remember the last time I had so much fun. I realize that this is not for everyone and I'm surprised how absorbed I was :) I can't wait for the next season :)
If a studio made a F2P game where the number of ways they push monetization is as varied as the gameplay customization, you better hope they listen to players.
The bigger challenge comes from it being "live-service", and retaining players for a long enough period to recoup costs and make profit. How much longer will they continue these QoL improvements and add-ons? Will each update be impactful enough to keep the remaining player base engaged? How often will the events they have be meaningful, and how many will just be a cop out that just pushes more monetized "limited time", FOMO content? Warframe may have started in a rougher state, QoL-wise, but they maintained clarity and communication with the community this whole time. Let's hope TFD can live up to those expectations.
@@LastRookie no game does, hell not warframe, not destiny, players are fickle and will move on, but will they come back? I left warframe came back and left a gain, same with destiny 2. Warframe broke a lot of things in its game and honestly when i was i last time it was a different game than what i played and a lot of the things i spent time, energy and money on were useless now. At some point i may try again, but TFD has given a better looking game, small stories in between Reyna and bunny, and a bunch of varied characters to start with. Most people complaining haven't spent a lot of time on the game or are complaining about skins not the actual game or gameplay.
Meanwhile people: "bUt wArFrAmE iS bEtTeR" knowing well that Warframe has 13 years of content under it's name.
Just let the devs cook.
@@deadlyrobot5179 sad part is they have no clue how many people have come and gone from warframe or how much warframe broke trying to get it right
@@BrianJackson-d1o 'how many people have come and gone from warframe'
Brah, don't put salt on my wounds, DE literally banned my entire country from playing the game, I had 6000 hrs on that game, and don't get me started with the updates, 80% of the time new updates were unplayable.
People making the argument that first descendant cant be compared to Warframe given the games' timelines but people are quick to forget that Warframe started with practically nothing. Nexon is a multi billion dollar corporation with multiple years in the industry, watching the industry, and is a massive company, and the game went through numerous alphas (which I played two of). There were easy to fix things in the alphas which players begged them to improve but, the game released with the same tepid and clunky mechanics. And also became wholly monetized, like with the colors system -- obviously alpha rewards are scaled differently, but there was a clear vision where shaders would be earnable and infinitely usable on any character and skin, even if you havent bought one. Like, clearly this game is just a cash grab and they don't actually care about the player experience when the same seemingly random enemy scaling is present, the same poor boss designs and watery abilities.
I wouldve loved to like the game but theres just something so... hollow, about it. It doesn't respect you, as a player.
as a first descendant main playing since beta, i assure you this review is 100% accurate. it just so happens im a runescape veteran, so doing the same thing over and over is kind of my cup of tea. the beautiful characters are easy on the eyes, and the gameplay at endgame is satisfying as hell (ever killed 20+ enemies every few seconds?) great game for a certain taste, perfectly fair review.
2:24 I, very hard, disagree.
i tried out this game because people kept comparing it to warframe, but it feels like all the bad aspects of WF were dialed up to 11 while the good parts were mostly discarded, it felt boring more than anything else
So early warframe
Also stop comparing a 10 year old game to a 4 month old game
@@Forsakenruler If you had to pick between a heart surgeon with 4 month experience and 10 year experience at the same price, which one would you pick?
@@DawnAfternoon how old is the the one with ten years experience and how many did the one with 4 months do
@@Forsakenruler A 35 year old heart surgeon with proven track record of over 10 years vs. a 25 year old with questionable track record of 4 months.
If they had just ripped 80% of the ideas from Warframe and had a player market this game would’ve done well
Truly snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
I gave it a try and uninstalled after a few hours
Another thing about prime access you can buy the parts for the prime warframe and weapons very cheaply on the market
You couldn't when the game first came out.
@@TrackMediaOnly you really think nexon will ever allow the players have control over prices? if they did I would be surprised
@@Anteatereatingants Apparently they are working on trading though, We'll see how it goes
@@Anteatereatingants Its already confirmed that all items in a bundle will also be sold separately in about two weeks.
Completely lost me with the bullshit monetization. I refuse to pay $5 for a 1 time reskin. Even if they completely remove it in the future I wont be giving this game or company the time of day
Oh no! anyways...
You respond like this, but the game kinda depends on people spending money on it. The more bullshit monetization you put in it, the higher the chances or alienating even the people thar used to spend on your game becomes. @@28Elmar
How to fix The First Descendant for me.
1. Let me farm slots for Descendants.
2. Fix drop rates. Make guarantee drop after certain tries.
3. Every single skin in game and recolor, you can get for free.
1: YES
2: They're working on a pity system for players that don't have everything
3: YES
I'm a 2k hours Warframe veteran and I got 300 on TFD already. Most of your observations ring true. Much like historical Warframe, this game can be jank incarnate. The environments are boring, the story is absolute trash, I muted the music long ago, the bosses are hella uninspired... but I found the same kind of enjoyable grind I did in Warframe. I've gotten every single weapon and descendant I wanted just from playing solo and I've only had to give a few bucks to increase my character slots, just like in Warframe.
The game has a loooong way to go before I would even begin to recommend it to the general gamer population but devs ARE making constant improvements and I've already gotten plenty of hours of free enjoyment from it. I would say its worth testing for people that are completely familiar and enjoy the Warframe grind.
Endgamers:- "What da feck u onbout??" 🤨
its little hilarious putting this review this late online..cause they are working on drop rates..
i got everything pretty easy in the game..cause how strong you depends on mods..
really funny..😂
i mean destiny has shittier cashcrap than this.
sidenote: update is out, i got the new descendant almost complete in a few hours and will start research tomorrow..and i also have the dog almost ready
Day one beta Destiny and Division gamer and casual Warframe player. I don’t know skill up. TFD is my go to since launch. Story isn’t great. One could argue none of the looter genre really does that well. What it does have is a nice place between Destiny and Warframe. Warframe movement is a turn off for me but the build craft was amazing. Destiny build variety is non existent unless you like subtle shades of DPS only. TFD scratches both itches for me. I can build characters that never engage in DPS and are still hella useful and player power fantasy is absolutely through the roof with no nerfs in site (Freyna anyone?)
The Destiny grind and throttles were the most insulted I’ve ever been as a player. In TFD, you can work at your own pace and the end result is god like. What more can I ask from a looter?
These Korean games that are just extremely mediocre combinations or shameless rip offs of mechanics from superior games but garbage-tier gooner character designs are getting old
Fair point and agree with you on most parts.
I have put nearly 200 hours in the game, it is fun but not the top dog in the looter shooter genre, it still needs adjustment and new contents.
Dev teams are actively communicating with players and take feedbacks to shape it in a better way and I'm very satisfied with the way it's going.
It has a great potential and going in the right direction.
They have planned some nice adjustments such as balancing some under-rated characters to make it more fun to play, add more free cosmetics, make costume that are not a unique costume able to share across every characters in your account, QoL in term of target grinding, etc.
So, give them more time and I believe it will keep getting better and better
And yeah, even though cash shop is not affecting your progression, it's quite expensive, I hope they would lower the skin/costume price because it's something most people would buy a lot.
We all know why the people who play this game- play this game.
Just play Warframe.
Why would anyone want to do that
@@OMEKS_1 Because it's just TFD but much better
TL;DW version: Just play Warframe instead.
it's fun for me. Just running around, shooting some bad guy, collecting blueprints, admiring ass, making new characters. it's simple and fun. Yeah sometimes the drop seems suspicious, bummer, and the shop price is crime to humanity, but in the end i got everything i need without spending money while having fun
Last time came this early was when the First Descendant came out
been a long time since I sat through a whole skill up vid and oh yeah 100% agree as someone who played this game ever since it's 1st BETA and till to the point where I just uninstalled the game after it's season 1 sh** show.
they did have a few things that they did better than WF, especially when it came to loadouts and forma on a single unit. but as a whole, big nope.
Its an okay game, I´ve logged about 250 hours in the last two months (barring destiny 2 stuff) and I think its a fine game. Not good, great, bad, or horrible. Just fine. And as such its already been deleted.
It's really disappointing that not only is it clear that Austin didn't even get far into the game (despite making valid points in regards to its earlier sections), but neither do the people who are shitting on it in the comments. Just an infinite feedback loop of people who don't know what they're talking about and patting themselves on the back over it. It's sad.
This is the part that Kills me. Its a FREE game that people Refuse to try but will go on endlessly about how bad it is.
Then there are the people who spent a few hours with the game and bounced off. You mean the Tutorial???
Games like tfd and Warframe cannot possibly be understood or appreciated in the 1st few hours.
and Austin didnt even unlock a character, arguably the best part of the game is playing a new build on a new character.
Warframe was the poster child of "it gets better after 100 hours" so hearing a comparison of the two games when you haven't played that long is kinda ironic.
However... this IS a Nexon game, so I'm inclined to trust you and take a wait and see approach with this game rather than jump in any time soon.
Its Free and absolutely worth trying. Season 2 is about to launch so now would be a perfect time.
I started playing at launch and like pretty much everyone else who started at launch have unlocked Everything in the game.
Its grindy sure but its not "Cheating" you.
There IS however (Anecdotally) something in the code that decides you arent getting that Specific piece you are looking for (RIGHT NOW). You can run a mission 50 times and it wont drop BUT if you go farm something else for a while and come back and try to get to get that Exact same piece the next day, it'll drop on 1st or 2nd try like Nothing. Happened over and over to me but a little patience goes a Long way.
The different characters (That Austin didnt try) are so fun and unique.
Kyle for example has a skill that lets him fly into the air with a jetpack and divebomb onto enemies with a superman punch to the ground that does massive Aoe damage. Its great.
The game isnt perfect and its not for everyone but there is definitely something there to enjoy if you put in the effort
I remember playing this when it first came out and felt it was a decent mmo action time killer with pretty good gunplay, traversal and enemy variety. The story and lore was somehow both undercooked and overcomplicated. I hated the color cosmetics being locked behind paywalls and yeah the character part drop rates were garbage compared to warframe.
Also nice shout out to Remnant 2. That game is underrated with the crazy amount of hidden but fairly easy to unlock items.
I totally thought I wouldn't like this game going in, since I really didn't like either Destiny or Warframe. But unlike those 2, I actually found this game fun to play. I don't know why, it just clicked for me.
Same for me, I actually mentioned this in my recent video!
I have 9000 hours in Destiny and haven't touched it since finishing Final Shape. I downloaded TFD and have been enjoying it. The devs are really open with the community about what they are working on and make changes people actually want.
Right! Unlike destiny who constantly kill the player experience, TFD gives players what they want
You know what game used to be like that? Warframe, yeah, ironic, being a very good release until devs got too ambitious to actually remember to deliver a finished and well put together product. At this point, with many, MANY live service games going under the radar by singleplayer made by indies and double A with 80% less budget, i don't trust enough a live-service developer who can maintain a consistent behavior towards its fanbase to make an ideal game and doesn't get too greedy in the way, even less when the main selling point of its game are outstandingly hot girls with weapons and nothing else
@@CinobiteReacts Bungie devs actively hate their player base. They tell the gaming media that they're "afraid" of them and refuse to be "bullied" into making changes players want. Bring back Sparrow League Racing? No, because they don't want to. Allow for rerolling perks? If you can't craft the gun, tough. Oh, and BTW, let's not ignore their recent scandal with perk rolls, or how the game is currently a buggy mess (see the Halloween event this year?).
Thank you for talking about the rate manipulation lawsuit in this video. People forget that Nexon is a scummy company waaaaaaay too often.
Quoting my Wife "First desentant is fun only on +400% missions" rest of game is a we both agree is a chore like watching paint dry .
I haven’t even reached that yet and I think it’s fun. You’re telling me yall didn’t have fun for most of the game but kept playing anyways lmfao
@@CoercedJab 1- You have only 10 days of this +400% mission i dont know if they stay after season change
2 - sadly YES we where bored to death and play it only becouse all ppl say that after campain you do one more mission and you unlock this +400% missions .... and dont get me wrong i dont care about XP simply they give 4X enemy on the same map and its AWSOME you finalny dont run all over empty maps but you kill hordes of enemy +250 in each room !!
and even those missions get old very fast.
@@kz3dart they did confirm 400% are here to stay it’s just invasion mission that are going
Freyna and bunnies kills everything.
I can see why people don't like the game but i actually like playing the game and watching the devs actually try to make the game better over time for the players
"But is doesn't hurt" wise words my friend.
This is a late review. Being playing for months. Can't recommend it to everyone but it is fun
Me personally i enjoy it. As a casual player i got to a point now that i have unlocked and made all weapons and descendants Paying only maybe 10 euro i think for couple of Descendant slots. I did buy every season and some skins because i enjoy the game and i want to support the game but you can do it most for free. There is also a lot of changes happening start of next season that fix the issues you mentioned in the video. The amount of changes the Devs have made just by listening to the players in this 6 months was just amazing. I haven't seen something like this in any other game (at lest what i played).
I put two hours of multiple game sessions in the game. I really can’t play more than one mission, because it was spongy and extremely hollow. I really wanted to like it but I’m obviously not it’s target audience. My brother in law liked it.
Never disagreed so hard with a review before, everything said in this video is outdated and for the most part not even remotely true anymore. There's still room for improvement ofc but the game is great. Characters are very easy to grind for (less than 2-4 hrs) as well as weapons. This is definately one of those cases of don't listen to the game reviewer.
@KalePunk268 I didn't though? Lmao
don’t lie we all know you were just waiting for them jiggle physics before trying it out 😂
Playing this game just showed me how much i appreciate Warframe
11 years to get there, but it hasn’t even been a year with the first descendant.
I'm having a great time with the game. Would I recommend it to others? I would. But I can see why it's not for everybody, and that's ok. What you'll get is a game that can be grindy, but still fun (especially the new 400% missions, and colossi fights), fairly stable no matter how much is going on on-screen, and supported by a dev team that genuinely cares to make this game even better over the coming years. They listen to feedback and make constant changes, even if players mess up in the first place (like when they introduced the new shop, and players went ahaed and sold ALL their blueprints, even though the button clearly said that all would be selected, the devs reverted it and gave the blueprints back). I think that the game can have a bright future once it has caught up to warframe in years.
I acknowledge that playing video games are a time wasting hobby. I only play single player games with a story. If I am going to waste time, it better be worth it and I am not going to do it with these generic shooters and CODs and similar fps. These looter games are basically for players with addicted tendencies.
While I love Warframe, let's not pretended it isn't loaded to the brim in artificial time gates and grind.
100% better than this game.
@@Rizingfz08 go away shill
He gave a gacha game ZZZ with terrible monetization good review. You can totally play First descendant without spending. Gameplay is more enjoyable than ZZZ's button mashing. I guess Nexon didn't paying enough for the review like Hoyo does.
lets be honest, we all know why ppl play this game, its NOT because of gameplay. (not all but most of ppl)
It’s a mobile game just on a console
As someone who has about 250 hours in the game the droprates are ok. People who say they did hours for a 20% and not getting it are either the 0.0001% extremely unlucky or just cant seem to understand the basic concept of time and think a couple min equates to hours.
I have to agree with this. I know my experience doesn't reflect everyone elses but it seems like the loudest voices complaining about drops are the same ones insisting on instant gratification in looter shooters among other trivial game designs.
I’ve been playing this since launch. It’s a fun game to play IF is isn’t your main game.
Its a good fanservice game but the monetization, boring story and gameplay makes me stay away and just enjoy whatever good fanservice content available on youtube
TFD did one thing for me: rekindled my love for warframe. Was away from years, after a month in TFD, decided to come back. So, I guess, thank you, TFD.
The Beta was so bad i Finished it and never came back
Drop rates are more than fair in this game tbh
Had the same thoughts in my recent video glad to see I’m not alone with this 🔥
First Desendant is what a mobile game would be like on Consoles wirh good graphics.
Game was good for about 60 hours. Then it just became too repetitive and to rely on rng was just exhausting.
I played this game in it's "public beta" and I knew after 5 hrs, that this is a worse version of Destiny 2, designed to keep you in a boring loop, to make you spend money in the shop.
200 hours in and I know that it's not a good game I just wanted to grind for the characters. It is barren of actually engaging content and has baffling design choices in gameplay, encounters, and endgame progression plus an incredibly flawed matchmaking system that exacerbates the hardest fights available. It is appealing on the surface level with polished Unreal 5 graphics and graphically impressive fanservice but aside from that there's nothing actually "fun" about this game. Everything is just a task to grind and the only positive I can have is that the interface is genuinely great and user friendly for the ease and convenience it provides. It kinda has to be since grinding is the only thing to do in this game and making it even somewhat difficult would turn away its most dedicated players.
Got the platinum and got out, looter shooters are like casinos - quit when you're ahead
Bro Nexon's supposed to farm you not the other way around 😭
I played a lot of TFD when it launched, and personally I really enjoyed my time with it. Eventually, I dropped off - but only after killing all of the available bosses (at the time) and only in favour of other games. If I had the time I'd still play it and I still have it installed on both PC & Xbox since the game features cross-progression. The devs have been amazing with quickly implementing player feedback (which apparently is the main reason they even bothered with jiggle physics - the community wouldn't shut up about it) and they've only made positive changes to the game from any of the updates that I've seen. The monetisation isn't great, but it's a F2P game and none of the purchases are necessary. You can unlock everything in-game through a bit of grinding and I didn't find it to be an intolerable one (though I know many do). The game definitely isn't for everyone, but I don't regret the many many hours I put into it, and still plan to return at some point in the future.
"That's Nexon quality!"
got everything in tfd without spending a cent lol
It's literally warframe but without the confusion. Tbh i like it more
I played The First Descendant for a good bit and it felt pretty generic and rough. Then I played Warframe again and I never looked back
500+ hours in and I have maxed out all 7 Ultimate Descendants. Glad I didn’t listen to the critics and tried the game for myself!
If you already played 500 hours and you go watch a video about a game review that comes months after the game launched, you gloating means you formed an opinion way before this review came out. How did you get here and commit such obnoxious behavior?
@@Omegacalgar Same way anyone else did? Watched SkillUp videos before and it got recommended?
Any other questions to discredit valid concerns?
You never know how you will feel until you play. I love looter shooters but they can’t be free to play. The grind for me in these games is unacceptable. That’s why my favorite looter shooters have been Borderlands 3 and Outriders.
@@Granhier someone making a comment like the OP is a comment about a valid concern? No, OP is gloating that he liked a game that a reviewer didn't and or doesn't recommend. If op's word choice was different I wouldn't have said anything but it did trigger me to call out bad behavior
@@Omegacalgar It's a valid concern to feel that people who know nothing about the game are writing it off, yes.
Especially when the review is demonstrably lacking.
I normally quite enjoy Skill up videos. but some of the points in this video just don't do the game's justice. I've unlocked every single character without spending anything and the drop rate is not as hard as some might say. people just don't do the grind effectively. The game actually probably had the best Devs compare to any other devs out there as they have shown facts that they listened to their community. Throughout the months that's been out, they have addressed everything we as a player complained about.
How do they compare to de?
@@Russian_engineer_bmstu Do DE address almost every piece of feedback and implement practically all of it within a week or so , does the studio director sit in the game community discord answering peoples questions and asking what we want from the game?
If the answer is no then DE is worse than Magnum.
@@QwertyBoredom122 well you can watch their devstreams to find out!
You can't tell me what to do dad
The game just got way better after season 2 update.
It's easier to grind ultimates now.
And the addition of dog is just a massive quality of life improvement.
@KalePunk268 LMAO I did not? What you smoking? 🤣
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@KalePunk268 I did not? What are you smoking? 🤣
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@KalePunk268 what are you even talking about? Nobody said you're a bot. Why so defensive? Lmao. Now that you said it.
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@KalePunk268 definatly a bot, just saw "you" have the same exact responses on someone else's comment.
Movement in the game feels great but I agree the game needs better content
It could be better, I've been pushing them for the ability to crouch behind cover, and a slide to retain movement speed and compliment the grapple hook, but they aren't moving on that.
@@Alyrael I doubt they will do the slide given it is integral to Warframe and there is only so much you can imitate without starting to get into trouble.
@@TrackMediaOnly Sliding is a common enough mechanic in games that I doubt TFD would get in trouble for including it.
the grappling hook could be better, making it more exciting like attack on titan or something
The movement is cheap and poorly made, It's a joke saying the gameplay is good, everything is generic.
6:34 and that's exactly what I said when I played the beta. Patrols and public events, then eventually a boss fight.