1980s Dumble Overdrive Special
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2020
- Individually handmade by Alex Dumble himself, Dumble amps are among the most highly regarded and sought after guitar amplifiers of all time. This early 80's beauty has been impeccably modified from it’s original combo form into an orange-suede-covered, 100-Watt Head + 2x12 Cabinet behemoth.
A truly amazing amplifier - check it out as Paul and Duane explore it's mojo!
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I've played through 3 Dumble amps. 1 was amazing, 2 were just "good". The hype is insane.
I've only heard one in person, but played by a couple different people, and from what I know is that each dumble was tweaked to the player and what kind of guitar and effects they were using, and it showed, the different people I heard play through that one amp all used different guitars and they were all amazing players, but only one of them made the amp sound phenomenal
Does it sound nice? Yes. Can other amps sound as nice for way less money? Yes. This is just a collectors item.
no its not. collectors demand originality. this is far from that
@@gregwilson2721 well . You can get dumble clones. I got a welagen sss costing 5k. Sounds ABSOLUTELY identical to the original sss that one of my far off friend has.
@@gregwilson2721 you people judge by your eyes and then if somebody says otherwise you ppl say that you have cloth ears lol. What irony and ignorance behind something you cant even afford or havent even played😂😂
@@gregwilson2721 i have the $$ to buy a dumble costing 130k. Just saw it on the net. But i would honestly NEVER trade my welagen. Boomer.
Exactly. Great amp but hardly worth the cash people cart over for it.
WILL IT CHUG
Will it blend?
I have one. I find it shines with a Boss Metal Zone pushing it into a smooth breakup.
Ola, is that you?
Will it doom?
Does is Djent?
man, that bright switch kicked on is a beautiful thing.
Dave Murray? Is that you?
This amp could feed a family for a year or two
I can´t heard anything special than my ´71 1987 Marshall 50w JMP or my ´65 Bandmaster could´nt give me, I think the Marshall/Fender combination brings me more flexiblity in studio or live environment than this amp for a fraction of his price.
Sounds just like my Katana. :)
LOL. Good one.
Katana actually sounds better and much versatile… people needs to practice guitar before spending thousands on a new amp. You are not getting the sounds you want because you sucks.
You might have cloth ears. Not good if you fancy yourself a musician.
@@Astrafigura Maybe, but I'd rather have a Dumble.
@@Astrafigura um. Just no. If it works for you man then great but rich people with the expensive gear aren't the only kind of gear snobs there is. There's people with cheap gear that are snobs as well.
I would love to see a blindfold test between this amp and a few old Fender and Marshall amps.
Superb demo, thanks for sharing your experience expertise and keeping it real!
Great video, thanks for sharing! Paul, I have to say... I love watching you watch Duane play - your love for the tone shows on your face and your passion is contagious. I can't help but smile when I hear tone like this and seeing you smile makes me smile even more. Love it, love it, LOVE IT!
I appreciate that! Thanks so much, Luke.
For the level of money people have paid for these amps, I really do NOT believe there isn't someone who can't build something just as good or better. When an originally priced amp below $1000 can go for $100K+ decades later , you know it's mostly HYPE!
It's all snake oil and bragging rights. I could get every single guitar, amp and pedal on my list and not even come close to what this thing costs. Sounds good, though.
It's not hype. The asking prices of the used amps are reflective of rarity, nothing more than that.
Dumble would tailor the amp specifically to the needs of the player that is making the commission. That is why no 2 are exactly alike they were all reflective of the style and desire of the original player. And since many of the examples were commissioned by well known players in the LA scene the value is not only in the rarity but in the provenance of the previous owners. Which is why say the Greeny/Moore Burst now in the possession of Kirk Hammet would command a higher price than similar condition examples without that provenance.
I love my Two Rock Bloomfield Drive...
🤦🏻♂️just because some rich musicians pay ridiculous money for historic amps doesn't mean you should be mad about it
Thumbs up Paul!
The comment section is rich
I loved the video as presented even more after reading through the comments
Experience & opinions from every level and a wealth of info!
Cheers!
Yep! And I can see it selling soon. Full price.
Cheers!
@@philipchesley9615 this video is 3 years old. The Reverb listing is two months old (could just be relisted) and right now there's a 9% price drop. So much for selling I guess...
I don't care for the overdrive sound at all but that clean tone is amazing
To be fair, it sounds like they've overloaded the mic. Or overloaded something between me and the amp.
A very nice demo, guys. Innovation is 2 guys, one plays guitar, another shows the amp's tones. Thank you! 💜👍💜
Our pleasure!
Y'all are crazy, that crunch is lovely
I can’t find them in guitar center or on sweet water must not be any good
He only makes like 3 a year. You won't see them in the big box stores
@@bighar1966 Damn man, wake up.
Try Ali Express there is a genuine Dwumble on there, if not Im sure they will make you one
they are cheaper on wish
Lol
The main reason why Dumble amps sound so great is that they were only sold to top players.
Good amp, but nothing that would knock me out of my socks.
I think it sounds like garbage. I just modified a guild thunderstar lead that I got for 50 bucks and it sounds thousands of times better but then again it's not like I'm biased or anything.
Yep, a good player will sound just as good on a mass-produced amp!
guys, I'll tell you honestly - I'll accept such an amplifier as a gift!
...very nice to hear ...thanks! :)
I luv the “D” style amps and their tone!
Nothing quite sounds like it.
I just purchased a Ceriatone OTS Mini 20 because it sounds glorious and gets me 95% of the way to my “D” style tone in my head.
Thanks for the video! 🔥🔥🔥
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Rock on!
Just to be in the room with that amp ….. amazing.
Love the OS tone but im more intrigued about the long haired dude's sandals.
Love that suede!
I have just heard of Mr. Howard Alexander Dumble just about an hour ago from RockCellar Behind the curtain article n played several of his amps here on UA-cam.
I'm dumfounded by how much it sounds like my MG10 via two separate 10" speaker cabs!!
I've had the opportunity to play 2 Dumbles, a 100W Skyline-stack and a 50W HRM. There's several years separating the 2, and the HRM I played for an hour or so, the original Skyline I played all weekend. There are people who have played them, or clones that are really faithful to the actual Dumbles that just don't like them. This isn't something that's difficult to believe since they really sound quite different from what you get from Fender, Marshall, Vox, Boogies, etc. As for myself, I haven't played any amp that came close to how much I LOVED the sound and feel of them.
It's funny because my very first experience with anything that had that "D-tone" wasn't a Dumble or a clone, it was a Dumble in a box pedal, the Zendrive. At the time, I had heard of the Zendrive through the places where the "tone-snob" usual suspects congregate online (I say snob with nothing but affection, I quickly fell into that category myself). All I knew was that a lot of people who's opinions I respect all spoke very highly of them. At the time I was playing a Strat 80-90% of the time, running into a Blackface Deluxe Reverb, a pretty heavily modified Silverface Pro Reverb, and a couple mongrel amps I had built, all with emphasis on the clean tone. I had no idea that the Zen was categorized as a D-style drive, just that people really like them.
The very first time I plugged it in and hit an open-A chord so I could start to dial it in, what I heard I had only experienced once before when I played a Silver Jubilee duty the very first time. I hit the chord, and what I heard was the unidentifiable tone I had in my head that I had really been trying to find with every new amp, speaker, pickup the pedal, etc. The Jubilee the first time, when that roar came out, it was the first Marshall I played that sounded like what I always expected to hear in the other ones, but never did.
Since then, I've had several Dumble in a box drives, I actually still use an Ethos Overdrive preamp that I run as a "wet" amp when I'm running in stereo. I've owned it played at least a half dozen clone amps from Two-Rock, Fuchs, Carol Ann a couple others.
For some reason, the builders of those are under they impression that because they're cloning amps that regularly fetch $60,000+ then it's reasonable to price theirs at prices that, IMO are kind of insane (I think Two Rock, who build amazing amps, but have a John Mayer Sig that runs $10,000; that I don't get).
This is a long rambling preamble to my intended point: with all of those phenomenal boutique amps, the ones that I felt was the closest to what I heard when I played the 100W Skyline and 50W HRM, after also the most accessable and affordable out of all of them, the Ceriatones. I've probably had a dozen in my possession over the years, some for very short period of time because I was building them from the kits for other players, others I bought as kits with they soul purpose to build them, and then just immediately sell them (when they were circuits I didn't have any experience with, like the 183(?), 50W Steel String Singer (which BTW, was PUNISHINGLY loud even at the lower 50W) and the HRM mark 2s (HRM w/EL34s).
Ironically the last 2 that I owned were actually fully built when I acquired them: the 20W ODS lunchbox head (great model if you're looking for a slightly more aggressive overdrive channel, and a 50W HRM. I highly recommend checking them out.
I get asked by people thinking of getting them that just can't decide whether to go with the 80s Skyline models or the later HRMs which they should get. Normally with questions like that we all know the boilerplate response/non-response: " well, that's really subjective, what I like you may not/ you're really going to have to figure that out for yourself, or (my favorite pointless side-step answer: " you really need to play them and find which you like." *
In this case however, I feel confident suggesting the HRM (not the Mark 2, the original one that comes with 6L6 output tubes). With the original Skyline, both channels share a master volume and tone stack, whereas with the HRM both channels have their own independent master volume and tone stack (the OD channel has an internal HRM tone stack that gives the OD channel more of a Marshall type drive as opposed to the Skyline (I don't know why Howard Dumble made the tone stack internal, it gives they impression that it's a "set it and forget it" circuit, but in reality you're supposed to use the preamp boost when you're using channel 2 so it bypasses the Skyline stack and uses the HRM stack only). I should point out that while it's a Marshall like voicing, it's still very much the Dumble..... Thing (?).
With the HRM there's a pretty simple mod where you install a second boost/tone stack bypass, but for the internal HRM stack, and when you use the OD channel, you don't use the boost for the Skyline. In this way, it's going to be running the Skyline stack, and so it's still running as the Skyline. I've only used the HRM a couple times, all the rest I run it as the Skyline, but with the benefit of having 2 separate master volume.
Hey Tim! What do you think of the Ethos Preamp to get that Dumble sound. I have a Fender Super Sonic 60 watt combo. I have also read that it takes other pedals well. Any opinion on the Big Bloom pedal?
when they switch to room mic i can hear much more beautiful sound in that space
I have the Ceriatone ODS clone... it's a decent amp and you can get very dumbly with it. I had a real hard on for that sound for years. Once I achieved it, I realize that it doesn't really fit my playing style. Today, I can say that my dumble-itis has been cured! ;)
That's interesting. I what about it didn't fit your style? I bought a Joyful Music 100 because I just wanted a nice clean platform for pedals which is a great amp once I got used to it. But I often think maybe I should've went with the Ceriatone SSS or ODS to use mainly as a clean amp.
I have the lunchbox version. Sounds great.
@@greenh609 The issue is going with a direct clone. I play a Fuchs ODS Classic combo, and can get pretty much any Dumble sound and THEN some. Andy Fuchs (JUST as much of a genius as HAD) took HAD's ideas (which were always a work in progress) and greatly improved upon them. I've played a Dumble Overdrive Special, and while I haven't a/b'd it with the Fuchs, I would much rather use the Fuchs. It is absolutely incredible.
Also, if you're going for a "Dumble Sound," I have noticed that American made is always better, to my ears.
There's a word for that in greek, which in English it translates as "demystification" but I'm not sure it's 100% accurate. What is sure that it works 100% of the time. I can really get what you mean. Apart from guitars, I've longed for a lot stuff in life, that when I achieve them I was like "meeeh ok"
well said, same. I am more of a heavy handed blues shredin' ferocious player and the SLO-100 fit my needs better, even though these Dumble Style amps are unique and so great in the hands of the right player
Hiwatt with a Dumble style pedal for the win
I built my own based on Dumble #183. Just got the best parts. Best amp I ever heard. You have to play these to feel how much it helps your playing. With a bit of work these amps can give a brutal detailed high gain next to the heavenly cleans
Buy Alexander Dumbles book and carry on modifying new amps. 👍
Very nice
Wow. Cool vintage amp. I always played Boogies. Way deeper, way more... more.
I have a Ceriatone overtone special 50/100 watt I love the sound with 2 celestion 120 watt redbacks
I doubt Stevie ray would still be playing dumbles today but still a pretty cool amp.
He would be playing the custom SLO that Mike Soldano was building for him, but never got to play because of his death. Mike showed the SRV SLO half stack off at NAMM couple years ago.
Sure helps when you have a great guitarist to demo the amp. Amp sounds good too, of course.
changing controls from the front to the back etc will surely affect the sound in some situations when different length and type of cable have been used, so that's something I would never do on an amp like this
Now through the magic of the Kemper Profiler we can all enjoy this tone without taking out a second mortgage as well as many other classic and somewhat unobtainable amps.
My dream!
Robben Ford... yes... he plays a dumble... but why does no one ever mention the greatest dumble player of all time? Larry Carlton!
People do often mention both those guys. Larry is a legend!
I think Keith Urban is the most known Dumble player.
@@MW47742 In terms of being famous for having a dumble it's definitely robben ford. Robben's is the most famous dumble amp.
O, there is plenty of guitar Gods playing dumbles. Santana, Vaughan ...
because he is also a great Boogie Mark I and Tweed Deluxe player. In other words, he is a great player no matter what amp he uses.
exactly what I need for my next dive / biker bar cover band gig!
my Bugera 6262 Infinium's getting tired.
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🤣
Reminds me of the mid-80's Fenders that Paul Rivera designed.
@saul yeah I used to own a fender concert ll that was made in 1982. That amp was a combo and it had a EV speaker in it also. It was a cool amp but I mainly used it as a pedal platform. Had a very similar sound as this amp in the vid. I wound up buying a Elmwood m60 Modena which I plug into a 2x12 cab with a scumback and a alnico gold. Best rig I’ve ever plugged in to. From clean to mean
Best dumble I’ve ever heard
Ashley Griffith Marshall stack fan?
then you havent heard bonamassas brown one.
Probably lost 75% of it's value when it was "broken out" from a combo amp to a head and cab.
Not Sure - 2020 he says the original cab is still there...
... wich is a good thing. Makes it more affordable for the average musician.
Yeah, why did they do that ? Strictly speaking it's no longer a Dumble is it ?
im pretty sure that if it sells, it will be for the same high price it had before the mod, no one would let a Dumble go for less money than its worth
@@TelecasterLPGTop it’s still a dumble just not a fumble combo anymore because it still has the original internals it’s just in a different configuration that still includes the original speaker it came with
HYPE! My 74x marshall blows it away. My deluxe with a timmy and vintage jbl is also the ticket ! Fraction of price
sounds like a fender blackface preamp into a marshall power section. ooops did I just kill the myth?
B1NG0! Even if I had all the $$, why bother.. So you can play in your living room? Imagine playing live with it?
Close...more like...Marshall style pre into 6L6 Fender style power section....add in a Klon style boost on the FET channel) Which is why if you want to really hear this amp and what it can do, it’s got to be a LOT louder than the bedroom volume they are showing here. This demo is very underwhelming. I’ve had the opportunity to play an OD Special...at volume...and it is pretty intense...not $60,000 worth of intensity...but...unlike any other amp I’ve ever played through.
Just gotta win the lottery first but I’ll definitely be calling you when I do! ☺️🤘🏽
828-658-9795!
Amazing how people say "Dumble" tone but how much different his circuit sounded from early to later versions. Most of the clones are based on later designs like Ford's or the 183. This one has more of that early tone. Not overdone on the overdrive.
You have to try out a Dumble thru some great sealed cabinets with 4 JBL D120F Speakers. I did this back in the 1980s in Santa Cruz CA at my friends music studio. The first thing I noticed was the Attack. When you just plucked a note, the amp responded so quickly and crisp. I was playing a 1970 Gibson SG. Alex Howard Dumble lived in Santa Cruz for many years... Is he still there?
Man I lived in Campbell, California for many years. Too bad I could have met him.
Sounds like a million other modern amps.
suka sama videonya :)
So it has been’restored lovingly’though certain things have been replaced or added not to mention made into a head and box.What was the reason for this?Sure it was well done but restored to me is how it was pushed out the factory(workshop!)door.I have a mid 60s Blackface twin reverb that has seen a few bar room fights cosmetically and has been fully overhauled with correct capacitors ,etc.but I wouldn’t dare chop it half .I realise that it’s a beautiful sounding amp but like the Klon Centuarer it’s all about rarity.
I'm sure they're worth a lot of ££ due to their rarity, which is fair enough. They don't sound mind-blowing by any stretch of the imagination.
They're the kind of amp you need to run the piss out of to get good tones. You can see they have the volume right down, probably just to were it will make any sound. He should have dimed that pig!
Every tube amp has a 'sweet spot' in terms of volume where the amp sounds its best. The sweet spot is usually somewhere between half and full volume. These guys, for the sake of saving their ears in the small space they were in were not at the 'sweet spot'. Also, the Dumble is prized more for its touch sensitivity than for its tone. What a lot of people don't realize is that Dumbles are not made like other amps, they are custom made to fit the playing styles of the specific individuals who order them. You have to submit a sample of your guitar playing when ordering these amps so Alexander Dumble can tailor the amp to your style. Sorry for the long winded response but it is worth noting that no two Dumbles are built the same which is why it's a gamble buying a used one, especially at the prices they go for.
@@watzup62 I hear this 'touch sensitivity' thing thrown around a lot when it comes to Dumbles. If people are that bothered about an insanely responsive amp then why not go solid-state? A JC 120 or whatever? the no two amps built the same isnt really unique either or a bragging point.
Most Matamps pre 90's, even consecutive serial no's were different when it came to cap values/ tranny spec and valves, doesnt really mean anything. Its largely an availability point from the manufacturer's point of view, and Ill bet Alex Dumble is no exception, he just puts a marketed spin on the fact that no two of his Amplifiers are alike. And if were talking about personalization, any tech worth their salt can tailor an off the shelf amp to a players tastes for not a lot of money. Dont get me wrong, his amps sound mega, but theyre hardly out of their original league of being hot rodded fenders sound wise.
@@J8D2 First of all I was only mentioning the custom builds as an example of why you might be disappointed after trying a Dumble since it might not be voiced properly for your playing. I wasn't touting this as some great thing.
Second, there is a big difference between response and touch sensitivity. When a tube amp is turned up to it's sweet spot, just below the point of tube saturation where the tone is clean but just barely when you pick lightly but when you dig in it becomes compressed and overdriven in a very musical way but then cleans back up when you let off. That is touch sensitivity and a solid state amp cannot do this like a tube amp can because it's all in how the signal behaves in a vacuum tube, jfet's and other transistors like them can't duplicate the voltage sag and compression that causes the magic that happens after the initial attack.
I happen to own a Roland J120 and it's a great amp for the styles of music I use it for but it has little if any real touch sensitivity. But as far as Dumble goes, I prefer my tweed deluxe kit build to Dumble but Lowell George, Robben Ford, Mat Schofield, Joe Bonamassa and many others have sworn by them.
Have you ever played one? Have you ever been in the same room with one? They are pretty amazing amps.
sounds like the mic might be clipping at times... no?
I just saw an original one of these for sale on Reverb for $ 131,000 , that’s
insane ,It’s a great amp but overhyped, maybe $ 125,000 😆
I’d rather by a FERRARI ! LoL!
Nope
I am selling a 1964/65 Fender Super Reverb modded by Dumble in Santa Cruz, CA in in the early 70s. Any suggestions or inquiries are welcome. Photos, serial numbers of amp etc.
I just understood. It adds fenderish glass to the Gibson Les Paul sound. So, it's a miracle!
Wheres the Marshall Logo? Doesnt have one? Cool, have a great day
here is my honest thoughts dumble knew what he was doing and the way he tailored amps for each player is a great thing to do i build the amps for the guys in my band and they have stopped using vintage marshalls to use my clones but i tailor the amp for who is playing it. i think that dumble built amps for great players then we heard those great players doing theyre thing and thought alot of the tone is coming from the amp. as honest as i can be i dont hear that amp doing anything my very very nicely built amps dont do. im not by any meens saying i make a nicer amp than dumble but to me it seems so many of the holy grail amps are just great built tube amps. but another thing is that good tone is just an opinion and it can very alot from one guys great tone to another. like when you watch Metallica on stern and hammett talks about buying greeney and how its just a magic guitar then james says how he played it first and passed on it haha. just goes to show. i though the clean side sounded great on the dumble but the od channel seemd a little woofy might be he had the tones rolled back
i like my quilter 101R
Kitty Hawk Amp early series... 99% percent picking up of that sound... Almost same components BTW
Reason being: the Dudes who imported Howard Dumbles Amps to Germany asked him to send them spare parts (and probably schematics) for repairs. They used them to build Dumble copies under the Kitty Hawk label. I guess he suspected them to rip him off when he realized they needed A LOT of parts. He never tried to sell amps overseas again, afaik.
Sweet LP clone Still love my CS Tonemaster Less than a grand too LoL 😂 Silvertone 1482 as well Both keeper's
Hmm, Put a field effect transistor gain stage in front of an all tube Dumble amp to make it sound better?
No listing on your website!
Hi! This isn't listed on our website yet because it sold before we could even get it up there, but we wanted to post up the video for people to enjoy. But, rest assured it will be listed there in the near future at dreamguitars.com, with the full compliment of photographs, specs, and detailed description. Please stay tuned, and thanks very much for your comments!
DreamGuitars ... Would it be possible to persuade you to reveal, how much the amp sold for? Please.
I would guess that any of us who played guitar in the late 70's, 80's, 90's at volume cant hear that good now anyways. We now have 60 year old ears that cant process highs and lows like they used to.
What you say, turn that Tele up?
It would be so interesting to do a blindfolded comparison tests under a nuclear situation!
Buy a Kitty Hawk Standard early series... Dumble guts, spare parts and of course schematic and just 5% of the above asked price...
Get a Bludotone like Larry, Robben & Carlos!
been listening to Two rock / bludo drive and red plate demos all day - None of them come anywhere close to this masterpiece - it's in a league of it's own - Alexander Dumble had some magic that no other amp maker has been able to copy - this has to be the best amp I've ever heard - PERIOD !!!!
To be honest I don’t understand what a dumble amp can do that my JCM can’t! In fact it has more switches but that’s all. Unless most people don’t know how to dial a good tone in a tube amp!
If you ever played one you wouldn’t say that. It’s not about how many things this amp can do. It’s about the one thing it does. Which is definitely a better sound than your JCM.
@@Panic42000 I understand your point, as for a better sound it is probably more a question of taste as it depends of what you expect and what is the sound you have on your head. I can also tell you that if you know how to tweak your amp you can get any sound you want but then again not any musician is an electronics engineer…
Well. That's apples to oranges they are hugely different amps in their circuits and components. Neither better or worst imo just different.
@@Panic42000 listening through eyes is bad. Thats why you nobodies dont have your OWN sound, you ppl are just trying to become another cheap copies of the "legends" that are not even alive😂😂😂
@@yakshrajsingh8121What the hell are you taking about?
60 000$ for this ?
Nope
I had a chance to buy one in around 1998 brown suede all original at "The Amp Shop" on Vanowen I asked Robert Stamps how much it was and he said $5,000. I had never heard of a Dumble and I was confused. I mean I had already had many awesome amps, Fender Quad Fender champ, Music Man RD65 with ported 2X12 cab--- etc. I was like wtf??? He said to me, that's what they go for-----It was a piggy back with either 2 or 4 12s in it, can't remember, man, I bet that thing would fetch 75K now. It's total bullshit, but still..... that's a lot of money
It's just a normal tube amp with a lot of compression and good headroom.
Listening on an iPhone with Shure 215 buds. Sounds great but I think you should have switched off the bass boost on the dirty side. It got a little muddy to my ears.
I would liked to have seen the amp in it’s original “as is” condition.
Actually ....... this amp has lost a nice chunk of dough ........ because it's NOT ORIGINAL~!~ Some of the controls have been replaced and It's only 60% original now~!~ The amp head is really (hopefully!) the only valuable part~!~ Like so many things that are in short supply, you wind up paying way way way to much~!~
I got a chance to buy a Kendrick Jazz Combo and the sound is not that far from this O D S. I’m so happy with it. This is a jazz Combo and the sound is not that far from this O D S. I’m so happy with it. Lots of bass and attacks. Very deep sounding, very warm and lively.
Sounds cool!
If I win the Lotto I'll buy it
The myth of the Dumble is largely that. How often do you hear anyone really getting world-class tone with one? Almost never to my ears.. only on rare recordings.
Pretty sure everytime John Mayer used one...Bonnie Rait for a time, Lowell George live for a time, Ben Harper for a bit. There are several people getting "world class tone" from Dumbles still today. Does that warrant it being over $100,00 and worthy of such legendary status?
Oh and I forgot the original Robben Ford who still uses his original one which is THE original. That being said Dumble himself said he had the idea for the amps when hearing Robben play a bassman pushed with a tube screamer...so is it truly worthy of such legendary status when its essentially just a hot rodded fender like a Mesa Boogie and Rivera? To me, the answer is no. But, just because its a Myth doesnt mean there aren't players getting truly amazing tones from these amps.
What u mean by "how often? ? Its been used in records, people play it.
it doesn't sound good because each dumble is hand wired by dumble with the specific guitar players gear/style and touch. He has people who get one come in and play for him until he understands what he has to do. This is why buying a dumble second hand is completely ridiculous and you will see most don't do it. They cost approx the same as a new one and you dont get the dumble sound because it wasn't built for you.
@@frankieconcepcion7860 when john didnt use em then also he always sounded great. His sound is not dependent on the dumbles. When he was in berklee in 1990s one of my friends was there with him, he would get his sound from those vibroverbs all around berklee. So there is no way that dumble amps made his sound "better" by any means
@@frankieconcepcion7860 sorry but these arent worth 100k by any means , maybe worth around 7k. I bought a welagen and i would never trade it for this amount of price! That is total foolishness. I dont have money to waster
If anyone started building one at a time and get just ONE notable player to play it…cha-Ching you have done what Dumple did
lol is it sold yet …
I want to hear the amp with mic father away to feel it more
I thought he was Dave Murray!
I actually like how it looks. I wonder what it sold for. I would have gone like 3k or so.
billhillard .. At least 10x 3K. Probably more like 20x
@@kth5077 I doubt that. It did sell, right? Must be a number out there. Any more than 8 - 10k would shock me, even for a Dumble.
Well prepare to be shocked I guess, Dumble Amps usually sell in the neighbourhood of 100k when they become available, so with your 3k you might be able to buy a replacement knob or a standby switch 😅
billhillard... Yes it listed as sold on their website. I highly doubt it sold for around 10K, even though it has been modified a little. As he mentions in the video, the amp was featured in the book "A Dumble book", used in films and been recorded on several releases - That would add to the value. Recently these amps have sold for ~50K up to 400K. I will ask how much it sold for - If we're lucky they will let us know..
@@ThePainCrafter Pesos? See this is why it is better to buy a nice custom amp build. Rich idiots who cannot play have not ruined the market yet.
I'm buying a 100w amp I'm going to *crank* it... preamp distortion doesn't do much for me.
I have a China made freeware app on my cell phone, that perfectly nails the dumble sound. How much, did you say, does a dumble cost? ;)
Fitzliputzli23 “nails it perfectly “ an app? 🤣 simulations aren’t sexy or authentic. Perhaps one day you can appreciate the amount of effort and knowledge it takes to build an amp. There is something very special about being able to fill a club with organic tones emanating from red hot vacuum tubes saturated with electrons. Can’t do that with a cellphone Please give life a try without a computer or an ap, you won’t be disappointed
@@soundguyjimmymolina2986 I think he was kidding. or I hope so anyway!
@@soundguyjimmymolina2986 Haha, just kidding, pal! Course you're right.
@@Fitzliputzli23 Your band was odd looking live with that backline of cel phones but you rocked.
I should have been a blues lawyer
How much is this amp?
Hey, Robert. No one else answered you but, depending on it's heritage (who previously owned it, etc.), these ODS amps go for $50,000 and up. If someone famous owned it at one time it'll be well over $100,000. Yeah. No sh*t. ;-)
King Brutus XXVI ok thank you for weighing in with an answer. Pretty crazy stuff.
Robbie Kreiger bought Bossamana's for $60,000 earlier this year 2020
Probably somewhere between $50k and your first born child
I'd rather have a Trainwreck Express handbuilt by Ken Fischer. Dumble looked up to, and respected Ken.
I have one! Very dryn dynamic and woody. High end articulation like going direct thru a Hi Fi system... sometimes difficult to deal with as it puts all your faults front and center at times
@@MURF8393 What's her name? What year?
I'll be honest a Mk 1Boogie is killer compared to what I'm hearing here. But on this demo they've hardly opened the amp up so not much help to anyone except an amp investor who doesn't care anyway right?
Exactly my thoughts
right, mk1 sound was so nice, couldn't even get it on a $ 2k
mk3. but, hearing it live, the dumble does open up nice and drops the sound like a dumbbell, yet in a good way,
Let's hear it with a strat
* Regarding posts where people ask for help deciding between 2 different amps, pedals, speakers, etc. the "you have to try them both yourself" answer irritates me to no end because of the context it's usually in; someone posted the "which one" question on a forum, or they'll ask if anyone has tried 2 different "insert particular piece of gear" and which one they like better. At least half the response is the "you're going to need to try them both," which really is of NO help to the person asking, and is about as useful as if you took the time to respond " I don't know which one is better," because it's just as useless, but carries with it a mild passive aggressiveness to it. Another 25-30% of the responses are "well I've never tried "A", but I own "B" and it's awesome, which isn't much more useful. When I read the posts asking opinions, I just assume that if they could try both out than they would, but the fact that they take the time to go to a forum or message board implies that for some reason, they don't have access to the 2.
HOWARD!
idk why but dumbles always sounded kinda solid state for some reason, probs coz how spanky they are idk. obvs never played one irl lol
or they just sound like a fender
Ill take a fender princeton or an old tweed pro anytime. Dont see what the big deal is, and it looks like a pimps amp. Maybe Iceberg Slim once owned it.
HAD developed the mid n deep for strats ta fattenem up, u wont hear alot of change in a mid centered Les Paul.....
Some video of the electronics inside the amp would have been relevant. A 30-40 yr old amp should have had some re-capping etc. ?
That’s a $100,000 amp right?
FET channel is way more bottom heavy than i thought it was gonna be
Save your money, Robben Ford sounds like Robben Ford no matter what he's playing.
It's in your fingers.
@Nothing Noone You obviously don't play, and if you do, you don't play well, loser.
That settles it, I'm cutting off his fingers and having them stitched on.
Robert said it himself that he sound like himself whit every guitar or amp... but he would not play beside someone who has a Dumble 😅
Just buy a Mesa lonestar special and save a few thousand .
Truth, however, it's nice to learn about iconic gear. It certainly costs nothing to learn about gear, lol!
For all you complainers, this amp has already sold....
There's one born every minute.
Of course it sold. Rich people can be as retarded as the poor.
Good, i hope the CEO/Doctor/Lawyer enjoys it for the 2 months he keeps it before reselling at a higher value